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Today we'll be hearing a presentation on the True Realization of Women in Magazines and this evening in this same room, Ms. Blakely will be our keynote speaker eight o'clock and she will be doing a speech entitled. So You're Not a Feminist But, which sounds intriguing. So if you can make it to that, afterwards there will be a reception at the women's center and a book signing. Let me tell you a little bit about Ms. Blakely. Ms. Blakely is currently teaching at the New School for Social Research in New York city. And one of the conferences that she organized while working there was entitled, Let Them Read Fluff. You might've read her article entitled the same which is dealing with the same topic that we're gonna be hearing about today. Mary Kay Blakely is an author of a creative non-fiction book, which is entitled \"Wake Me When It's Over\", right here. And the bookstore back in the corner there is gonna be selling copies. So if you wanna pick up a copy for the signing later this evening, you're welcome to do that. The book was about an account of a nine day coma that she experienced in 1984 and how that coma changed her life. Ms. Blakely has also written as a journalist for a lot of different magazines to name a few, Ms., Cosmopolitan, Vogue, Life, the New York Times Book Review, Working Woman and has appeared in the Hers Column in the New York Times. Please help me with welcoming Mary Kay Blakely here today.\r\n\r\n- Thanks, Jennifer. It's good to be here. Well, this type actually grew out of a grumbling meeting of Manhattan writers when we were all complaining about what happens to our work once it gets submitted into the editorial offices and we decided that we would do a panel discussion because we were concerned about writers not being able to get certain issues into the magazines. These were women's magazines. There were so many important women's issues in the '70s, certainly in the '80s even though it was largely invisible to many of us in the press. So we decided we would do this. And we presented the idea to the Women's Media Group and they turned us down and said, \"This will be too divisive. \"We don't want to have a fight \"between writers and the editors about policy. \"We make a policy, you make the words.\" So then we decided we had to go with the story to the New School and to put it on a cover of the Newsday Sunday Magazine. And then we got their attention. I also, so I was a rather kamikaze move because we were talking about all of the magazines that then employed me and thought that it was the end of my career. It was like a political suicide, except it didn't take. Well when journalists Maggie Scarf stumbled upon the findings that women suffered depression two to six times as frequently as men, Marcia Guttentag was then Director of Mental Health at the Mental Health Program at Harvard University began a study of the content of women's and men's magazines. And she found that while men's magazines were overwhelmingly preoccupied with mastery and triumph and achievement and accomplishment. Women's magazines focused largely on the problem of loss. Loss of attractiveness, loss of effectiveness and the message in women's magazines seem to be whatever it is that makes you happy, you are about to lose it. Well, as a writer whose own life included regular abouts of depression, I was very curious about what women's magazines might be doing to contribute to the overwhelming and pervasive depression that women women felt. Some depressions certainly were normal and even necessary. They're the blue periods that follow some direct confrontation with a difficult truth. A truth, which when accepted would require difficult change in one thinking and in one's behavior. Psychologists have labeled these learning experiences in Virginia Wolf called them moments of being and anyone who cares about life on this planet has undoubtedly had them. This shock receiving capacity as Wolf described women's vulnerability is also an asset. These painful realizations about life lead eventually to change to action. But the kind of depression spawned by the pages of women's magazines, bring feelings of worthlessness, of self discussed. Those prolonged debilitating depressions do not lead eventually to growth or to action. They lead to tranquilizers, to hospitals, and in some cases to suicide. There are two important psychological tasks. Maggie Scarf discovered in her work on depression that women have to perform throughout their lives. If they are to prevent this debilitating kind of depression the kind that brings feelings of worthlessness. Those two tasks are to grow beyond the unexamined myths of childhood And to adapt changing attitudes of loss and powerlessness to one of anticipation and action. So how much growing and changing and adapting do women's magazines encourage in their readers today? After checking with the Audit Bureau of Circulation, I discovered that the 10 largest women's magazines were Family Circle, A Woman's Day, McCall's, Ladies Home Journal, Red Book, Cosmopolitan, and Glamor, Mademoiselle, Woman's World, and Vogue. Together they reached a total of 35,384,943 readers every month. That's half of the 65 million women who subscribed to women's magazines. Women's magazines spend thousands of dollars on surveys every year to discover who the readers are. To develop a composite of the average reader. So editorials and advertisements can be directed her way. I spent $16.58 cents for 10 recent issues to find out who they think we are. To study the reflection of women, as it came back to us through 2,793 pages. Judging from the headlines on the cover, the foremost concern of women today is not to grow wiser but to grow smaller. The average reader magazines assumably sign a perpetual diet. The cover headlines promised that I would learn how Stephanie Power stays slim and sexy. How I could eat fast food without the calories, whether I needed a body make-over, where do you bulge, sag, ripple and thicken. There were exercise and diet tips for my over fat zones and as well as the four hot diets, what's good, what's not. The cruelest cover combined a headline promising prize winning recipes just below a picture of a freshly baked apple coffee cake. So delicious you could almost smell it. With a hot, large headline above that said, take two inches off your waist. The preoccupation with fat appeared as headlines on 60% of the covers as articles in nine out of 10. And as advertisers in 100%. Could this obsession within this contribute to women's pervasive depression? A recent study of bulimia, a disorder in which victims forced themselves to vomit after eating would indicate that it does. Alarming reports of bulimia, among college age women have been circulating for some time. And now there are signs that the symptoms of the illness are showing up among 30 year old executives. The women being treated were by no means fat. They had gained an average of 10 pounds over the year, a normal and healthy weight gain as metabolism slows with age. But the women thought they were eating too much and chalked it up to stress. \"That isn't stress.\" Mary-Lou Weisman, an author remarked after reading the study. \"That's self-loathing. \"Instead of the thin designer models \"on the cover of magazines\", she said. There should be a picture of a woman in a business suit over a toilet because that's what some women are actually doing to stay thin. Certainly a picture of an apple coffee cake below a command to take two inches off your waist. This is subliminal version of the same idea. The contemptuous attitude for bodies that bulge, sag, ripple and thicken was so pervasive. Several magazines suggested surgery to remove these inevitable consequences of age. An article called Keeping Up With Fat Fluxion Surgery. This is where they vacuum your cellulite out of your body. Featured seven sets of before and after photos from the files of Beverly Hills plastic surgeon Norman Martin, holding chalkboard identification signs like criminals and mugshots, seven faceless naked women bared their incriminating cellulite under chins, stomachs and hips. I looked at the pictures and unless these women were measured against the read like models on the fashion pages, none of them was fat. The women's weights were well within the normal standards of good health and their bulges were the natural results of gravity and motherhood. They owned what a woman's body really looks like, if she chose to live long enough, if she chose to bear a child. The obsession with thin this was never labeled clearly as vanity, it masqueraded as health. Celebrities such as Jane Fonda, Cher and Raquel Welch and Stephanie Powers were authored as health experts, to advise readers on how to maintain a 25 year old physique while past 40. One magazine promised an exercise program to age proof your body. And in another I learned how to rid myself of underarms way. That's where you move your arm like this and there's a little jiggle here. Well, before last month, I never understood that underarms way was a threat to my health. The clear message was that whatever growing and changing a woman must do psychologically to prevent depression. She had better accomplishing in a body that never or never grew or changed past age 25. And without frowning too much, either for then, a woman risk the second greatest fear dominating the page's wrinkled skin. Only Katharine Hepburn was allowed to show up on the covers with the wrinkles that life had earned for her. And even the independent Hepburn is vulnerable to pervasive scorn for the aging beauty. Her biographers repeatedly reveal that Hepburn does not like to watch herself in her later movies finding it painful to study herself in age. It's not surprising that a woman would find it painful since confidence and effectiveness were continually acquainted with younger looking skin. The youth confidence equation appeared in several hundred pages of ads promising to fend off wrinkles with anti-aging complexes, age zone protectors, cellular replacement therapy. Again, wrinkled skin was described as healthy skin. Well, if wrinkles are indeed a threat to health, shouldn't the media have been providing as many reports on President Reagan's wrinkles, as they did on his colon. And shouldn't Paul Newman take to his bed. Advertisers, not editors who are responsible for many of the anti-aging, anti-fat messages, of course but readers flipping through a magazine rarely stopped to analyze the source. This problem is muddied then, when magazines start presenting advertorials copy that is presented to look like an article but in fact is paid for by companies supplying the products. Sometimes these are labeled with a small tiny word at the bottom that says advertisement. Sometimes they're not. Editorial and business departments of a magazine operate like the right and left sides of the brain. Articles creating anxiety about what's wrong with you. Proceeded ad supplying remedies with the product. One feature called Quick Lifts For the Morning Uglies. This was a peculiar form of depression that was only afflicting very young women. Mentioned seven tips for improving your outlook. Five of the seven involve the purchase of a bath Jo, a blemish cover, a blusher, a scarf and a perfume. Since a woman, if she lives to old age, will become wrinkled, will shift in weight. There will always be the need for more treatment. The average reader is not encouraged to look forward to her old self as a woman of achievement, but as a waste. How you look was synonymous with who you are and for older women, that means invisible. My friend Carolyn Heilbrun is a professor in Manhattan said that people are always, she's in her mid '60s. And people are always coming up to her and telling her how wonderful she looks and how young she looks. And she keeps saying, I am not young. I am an older woman with pizzazz and it's not the same thing. Magazines have had to sell ads to stay in business of course, but as Mary-Lou Weisman pointed out there are so many more products they could sell us, if they would let us grow up. If they'd encourage women to do something besides dressing and undressing eating and not eating. She mentioned cars, computers. \"A camera would be nice\", she said. Magazines desperately try to purge their subscription lists of readers who are not the yuppies. The advertisers adore, Caryl Rivers of Boston University. Journalism professor said, she said, \"The best bagel in boutique journalism \"spreads like a malevolent weed \"editors grow increasingly impatient \"with the notion of giving their readers information \"that will make them uncomfortable.\" Stories about affirmative action, poverty, the mentally ill, the homeless are just not sexy. Not only does the average reader have to achieve her growing and changing without bulges and wrinkles. But the current purge of serious issues means that she also must proceed without much information. The need to supply the kind of news advertisers like to see, accounts for some of the absence of serious essays in women's magazine but the current moratorium on social issues. And it's real, believe me, stems from editors desires not to depress their readers. \"We like our readers to feel happy at the end \"of an article\", an editor explained several years ago. She then described what I've come to think of the Valium theory of writing. Pros that numb the pain without actually naming the problem. We were discussing agoraphobia at the time the fear of going out of doors a kind of depression therapists call the Housewives disease because 95% of its victims are women. My research showed that the symptoms frequently followed a traumatic clash with the outside world. After a mugging, after a rape. And in fact there was an outbreak of agoraphobia and three mile Island after the nuclear accident there. Therapists had little luck changing the fears of these women, because a van with a loudspeaker had driven through the streets with the message, close all windows and doors mothers don't breastfeed your babies. After the women received such blunt messages about their radioactive environment, a temporary case of agoraphobia did not seem to me an irrational response. It was a painful learning experience for these women. But one that if understood, could eventually lead to change. Neither skin creams nor diets would help these women feel better about themselves and therapy didn't eliminate \"Exaggerated\", fears. It made sense that agoraphobia couldn't be cured by rearranging the woman since the root of the problem was out there. The only lasting relief my research found was when these women connected with like-minded people and drafted plans for political or community action. The solution advocating social action did not meet the magazine's requirements because it would, \"Take too long\", the editor said. Surveys indicated that the average reader liked how to features especially how tos that would solve a problem by next Wednesday. The Valium theory with its quick fix approach permeated the pages of recent issues. How does stop the one you love from drinking. Loving ways to talk out anything. So your marriage wins. How not to look and feel tired. The subtitle said, do you end the women who always seemed to have boundless energy? Well, you won't have to do anymore. Here are the health and beauty secrets that will make you one of the lucky megawatts people. There's hardly a problem in America that the average reader can't somehow solve with a health or beauties technique a cold, a quarrel, a night on the town, all leave their mark. One copy said, beauty trickery can cure what ails you. The beauty tricks recommended, made the sad looking woman in the before photo look decidedly, more cheerful in the after. But can a cold, a quarrel or a hangover really be cured by mascara? Is a compact of translucent powder a good defense against radioactivity. \"What really struck me when I read the contents \"of women's magazines was the level of lying\", said science writer, K.C. Cole. Three steps to a happy marriage, lose 25 pounds in two weeks, cures for drugs, acne, and loneliness. \"None of these problems\", she said, \"Can be solved in three steps.\" The lies are degrading and infuriating. The quick fix formula paired down the truth. So leanly that the average reader has mostly half-truths to direct her growth and change. In addition to the lying Cole observed, the articles, speak to us as if women are extremely simple minded. Problems are cast in terms of before and after do and don't, yes and no. There are rarely shades of gray, rarely, sometimes rarely maybes. It's the language a mother uses with a very small child not women dealing with tremendously complex issues. Instead of providing new information to the bunk old myths the how tos and half-truths merely created more. Motherhood was also presented as either so easy that any celebrity who'd been a mother for two minutes was qualified to tell us how to do it. I remember Marie Osmond smiling out from a magazine cover a few years ago with advice about bringing up a happy family, since she was still a baby mother herself, it would still be another 10 to 20 years before her thoughts could possibly gel on motherhood. Yet it was persistently celebrities and experts, not mothers with wrinkles and bulges who give readers advice. The contempt for readers was based in part on the composite drum from the survey's. The advertising dummy made up of all women, but exactly like none. The average reader may have 2.5 children, but no real women do. The average reader may strive for a body like Jane Fonda's but most real women live in bodies like Erma Bombeck and Betty Friedan. Most of the myths about youth and beauty are based on the childish expectations of the average reader, who is a myth herself. Well, most editors don't identify with the average reader. She's still viewed as a role model for all the women out there. I'll never forget the conversation I had when I was still living in Fort Wayne, Indiana with a Manhattan editor, who said that I the article I had turned in was she said, \"Well you can understand this and I can understand this \"but the average reader will never understand this.\" And I said, \"You know, trust me, \"I have met the average reader and she is awesome.\" When I became a freelance writer. Now it's 12 years ago, a veteran writer I admired advise me not to waste my good writing in women's magazines. \"I should save it for books\", she said. It made no sense to labor carefully over words she said, because you'll be rewritten. The politics will be purged. And expert opinions will be added to tell the readers what they already know. \"Try not to care about these things\", she said. \"You'll wear yourself out.\" Well, all of those things have happened by now and I tried not to care. But I found myself still caring a little too passionately during a lunch with an editor some months ago when I launched into about lengthy monologue about who the reader was. I said, \"There wasn't any issue too controversial \"or too depressing to bring up with women readers. \"If we'd only invest them with some intelligence. \"If we'd only believe in them.\" \"Do you know how readers look at magazines?\" The editor interrupted me flatly. She then pantomimed a scene flipping the pages where a reader stops now, and then to admire a lipstick to envy a nail polish. She interpreted these reading habits as proof of women's short attention span. She didn't assume that there might be nothing worthwhile to read in the magazine. Well, why should editors writers and readers keep on caring about the messages that filter through their magazines. If women in our culture have any rooms of their own then magazines are those rooms. The former editor in chief of Redbook Sey Chessler once said, \"Do they serve as sources of power and movement \"they did in the past and not so long ago.\" In July, 1976 led by Chessler and other concerned editors. Every women's magazine in the nation agreed to publish the complete text of the equal rights amendment. Along with articles about it. This action was repeated again in November, 1979 when the ERA needed an extension of time. \"Many of us discouraged by the loss of ratification \"or at least encouraged that magazines had at least \"finally come into their own power\", Chesler said. They turned disregard for the ERA, a primary women's issue into majority support for it. They had opened almost all of the other vital issues of the day, from daycare to divorce, to health concerns, to social security inequities. If we had continued that tradition we would not today have the Supreme Court that we have which is going to carry us well into the next millennium. It happened because we were all asleep and we saw it coming. As a late physicist, Frank Oppenheimer once explained to his students we don't live in the real world. We live in a world, we made up. The world made up for women through 2,793 pages of magazines that I collected in one month was this, 40 year old bodies can look like 25, if women would only try hard enough. If anti-aging formulas failed to keep wrinkles off women's skin surgery is available. Marriage can be saved in three easy steps and motherhood takes two minutes to learn. There are a few signs of life outside the United States except in Paris. And if women feel depressed over any of this they probably need more blusher. Instead of encouraging women to grow beyond childish myths and adapt to the changes of life. Women's magazines have readers running in place, exhausted. The anxieties and depression instilled by these magazines have risen so high, executive women are inducing nausea and healthy women are submitting to surgery. This is the world we've made up for women and it's a perilous place to exist. Well, let's open up for questions. I'm thinking too now the most recent issues that's, most recent health issues that's bombarded in women's magazines is the whole silicone breast implants. And the fact that this investigative journalism should have been going on for 30 years, I just was doing an interview with a bioethicist at Montefiore Hospital in Manhattan who was on the breast implant panel for the FDA. And she said, memos have come out now, internal company memos that have indicated they've known for years that the silicone gel was leaking out of the implant. There was directions to the people in the warehouse that they should wipe off the slimy surfaces before it was shipped. So before these were even inserted into women's bodies they were already leaking. Now we're looking at the permanent long-term damages of it. And we think probably there are 2 million women in this country that have such silicone implants. But women's magazines won't deal with these issues because it might be the pressing. When Newsday published a version of this story and the, on the cover of their Sunday magazine, they wanted to do on mock-up of Cosmo or one of the magazines and put a sexy magazine, a sexy woman on the cover and call it fluff. And so the whole editorial staff sat around trying to make up fake headlines. And they came up with things like, is your hurt hairstyle hurting your marriage? If your nose job wasn't enough, 10 scrumptious desserts that will flatten your tummy, really? Our second annual guide to lip gloss, on and on men, why they're better than us. On and on John Vanrian the editor, read them over the phone to me and I laughed and I said that, \"John, you know you can hardly satirize this magazine. \"There will actually be readers who say, \"where's that story, I want to look that one up.\" I don't know it's hard to believe. What questions do have. I have obviously other comments that were note to me but I would love to have your questions and to what's on your mind, yes?\r\n\r\n- What would you think of Mirror Magazine .\r\n\r\n- Mixing memory with desire.\r\n\r\n- Well I also, they were gonna be more realistic older women feature in magazine like they were also very--\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it's so sad, I think it's a tragedy. I started out as a contributing editor with Layers and I think they had a wonderful idea. Frances Lear came to town from Hollywood and said, you're, first of all she said to advertisers, \"You're missing your most, \"your most well-financed consumer \"by ignoring middle-aged women. \"These are women with power. \"These are women with budgets. \"These are women with money.\" And she vowed at the time that she would not put any woman in the magazine, a model who was under 40. The magazine was first called Lear's for the woman who wasn't born yesterday. And they wanted to run intelligent articles about social issues, about the arts. And it's hard for me to explain what happened there. I was with the magazine for two and a half years, and then I just finally had to leave. I got editorial comments back like, we really love this issue but there's too much writing in it. I said, \"What?\" . Meaning like go straight to the, how to, part of it was the financial stress of a recession. As the magazine started to shrink and magazines depend on the number of ad pages they have in each issue. As the magazine started to shrink the articles had to be shorter. As advertisers demanded more in terms of the number of subscriptions we had to put more celebrities on the cover. So the initial covers were all anonymous, older women. And then you went inside and found the fascinating story of why this one ended up on the cover. Well, after that, it was only Hollywood actresses with facelifts over 40 that were on the cover. And of course because it was marketed to women over 40, the, all of the wrinkle removing companies were intensely interested in this audience. And so in order for them to buy an ad, they wanted to make sure that there was gonna be an article that talked about taking care of your skin. And so the social issues, again started dwindling to keep those ads, which is why Ms. when it came back in its third incarnation here decided to go without ads. I wish we had done that when we were a collective and still with Ms. too. I wish that we had done it when we were still women owned but this happened underlying communications, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well how they were issue found\r\n\r\n- With Layers, they started dropping their subscriptions. So I think I expect the magazine to fold in the next 12 months. This is my prediction.\r\n\r\n- They didn't know the publishers or anything?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that they couldn't find another funding source outside of advertisers. And as long as you're locked into that financial marriage where, like it's like to buy the magazine, the cover lines give you some worry. It's like the formula is on the cover, we'll give you some worry inside we'll sooth. So it's worry, sooth worry sooth. So the cover lines, and I remember having a huge fight with them about, this was that.. I had written they had asked me to write an essay about, male midlife crisis and what it is like for women who are living with a man who's going through one, it's like a depression doesn't take place in a vacuum. It spreads to a family, it spreads to a couple. And so it was an effort to explore what are the issues for women? What are, what things should live in, be aware of, what temptations to get in there and trying to fix everything, have to be resisted, how to take care of yourself, when you're living with someone who is depressed, depressions can be contagious. So what headline did they put on this? And then we went through like three rewrites, both of us fighting, you know, back and forth about what should go in, what headline did they put on it? This was to say to women you can still have your own self-esteem. Even if temporarily, your mate does not. A cover line, the headline that was put on the cover was women who nurtured too much. So it's like blaming women again, for something, for a depression in this case, that's not even their own. And in fact, the whole article described exactly the opposite behavior that women did well in the situation when they did not nurture too much. So it's like, well, that's okay, 'cause we're so used to insulting women and women are so used to being insulted that it doesn't matter. So yeah, I don't know what will happen. Now Ms. is an interesting experiment for the advertiser or for the publishing community to have witnessed, because nobody believed it wouldn't survive a year without ads based, only on subscriptions. And they charge much more for six issues a year but it's a good read. People have been giving this to friends as gifts. People have not minded paying more money to get real news and real writing and so it's working. I remember in the old days, when we were still in our own billing on time in times square, we would sit around at the editorial meetings and there was really always an earnest effort there to say, okay, look we know the realities of the publishing business. Every month we would get tremendous volume of mail from readers who hated to see us running ads for tobacco or alcohol. And they would say, \"Why aren't you a politically correct magazine?\" And we said, \"'Cause advertisers are not politically correct. \"And if we don't get the advertisers, \"you don't get the stories.\" But it was always tough and advertisers didn't like Ms. anyway, because we didn't run beauty ads. We would work really hard to get the car ads. But we had one issue one year, I had been campaigning very heavily for us to do an issue on women's spirituality because I've been hearing lots of things from lots of reporters. What women who had left patriarchal religions did to replace those rituals, how it's terribly difficult to leave a religion without leaving a family, what would it California which is doing, what were the Michigan nuns doing? Who had defected from the sisters of mercy? There were a million stories about spirituality. This was in the late eighties when, before we entered a new age. And so we did that. We commissioned all of these articles from all these interesting writers all over the country. And we got more mail on that issue than we had on any of the previous 36 issues. And so it bombed with advertisers because they said, religion doesn't sell cars, what are you talking about? So we took a loss on it. We took a loss on that issue but it had gotten such a huge volume of mail that from then on, in the editorial meetings we referred to that issue as the reader's issue. So that meant what were the other 11 issues each year that we were putting out, those were the advertisers issues. So it gets very complicated. Other questions, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, what would you suggest should be done being that, at least from my perspective, it seems like throughout the planet things commercialized commodified that these things will only worsen. What do you think should be done to combat that?\r\n\r\n- Good question and it's true, I think you're right. I was so appalled as I watched this whole country just move irrevocably towards green and materialism. And part of it is because of this and part of it's because we keep buying it. I think it's terrifically important to be conscious of what you're taking in both on the printed page and in any other version of the media. And it also does matter to write letters to the editor. They have a formula within the editorial offices for them, for every letter they received nine other people felt the same way but didn't have time to write. So every time you send a letter to a magazine you're writing for 10 people and it counts heavily there 'cause not as many, I mean, obviously far more people write than what you read in the letters to the editor. But they regard that as very important direct information their marketing department does pay attention to it. Here's an example. I was also contributing editor for Vogue. I just have slept around all over Manhattan. I was writing for Vogue and Ms. at the same time, it's like true schizophrenia. But in fact, I had tremendous editorial freedom at Vogue to write about issues like sexual harassment and the homeless and mentally ill because their reader surveys indicated that only 15% of their subscribers actually read the articles. So they didn't give a flying fuck what we put in there. Let's just get the pictures out here. And, you just do whatever you want , on those printed words. Well, I had, I worked with a very good editor there, Amy Gross who's now at Mirabella. Mirabella is gonna be an interesting magazine to watch if it can stay alive through the recession. But, Amy and I, and this was in the early days of the women's movement too, in the '80s. And she had been asking me for some time to write an essay about the whole issue of child pornography, which was then exploding. And I said, right, I'll put it on our list of issues that we keep cooking on. And as soon as I get the story, the lead, the event, the scenario that snaps it, I'll do that. So I got my April 84 issue of Vogue and I was flipping through it. And I came to a portrait of Jessica Lange, who was in a photo spread modeling gowns by the designer Angelo. And in a few of those photographs her little them baby Shura was pictured with her. Shura was two years old and absolutely gorgeous, absolutely beautiful, and also perfectly naked. Now in one of those photos Jessica Lange is crouched down behind Shura and she has her arm around her. All you can see of the dress she is modeling is from the elbow to the wrist. The rest of her is crouched down behind this baby. And then her other hand, she's holding this photograph by the way. It's important to know it was done by Bert Stern who did the last photos of Marilyn Monroe. He's the one that brought the cases of Dom Perignon to her, got her drunk, did the last photos. And that's what went into the book. So it was also a very, very, very famous well established and a high priced New York photographer. She's holding these long stemmed irises that are coming to rest. These long phallic stems, right in the baby's genital area. She's exposed full front to the camera, this girl, baby and the whole atmosphere of the photo is beautiful, blonde hair, gorgeous flowers, pink and green satin ribbons. And in the center of the photo. That baby's genitals and those lungs. I got on the phone and I said, Amy, I'm ready to write that article on child pornography. And when you use this as my lead. And she said, \"I've never censored you\", which she never had. But she said, \"If you write this article \"I can't promise that I'll get it published.\" I said, \"Will you promised me that everyone responsible \"for that photograph will read what I write.\" She said, \"Promise\", I said, \"Okay, let's do it, let's go.\" So we did, so the next day she calls me up and says. \"Have you started writing this out?\" I said, \"Of course not, it's just the next day.\" And she said, \"Wait, 'cause I'm going to federal express you, the mail we got today.\" In one day they got 560 letters about one page in a magazine, that is a powerful response. She sent me these letters. And I sat down with a stack of mail, 560 letters. And I was prepared to be really depressed, reading all of this mail about what reader's responses to that photograph. It was amazing. These were beauticians in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, school teachers in Alabama. These are not even necessarily people who were like movers and shakers in the women's movement. And they did not miss a thing about what the meaning of this photograph was. And they got a lot of canceled subscriptions and it was a beautiful photograph. All of them readers acknowledge that, they all pop, they all felt defensive. I am not approved, but they said, this is a dangerous photograph. What can that mother be thinking that she, let this go out into the public. And my thinking is in the studios of Manhattan Jessica Lange didn't even see what that picture looked like through the lens of the camera. What she saw was her beautiful, beautiful two year old baby whom she sees nude all the time. And the other thing is nudity is such a fact of the photographing studios that you just don't notice it anymore. But anyway, the article did not get published but I did what I did was I quoted little wonderful parts of all these letters and put it together in an article and it didn't circulate all the women wanted to publish it. And the art director was then Alex Liberman said, no way are we going to criticize ourselves and our own magazine? So it didn't get published but the good thing that happened was the next month fashion photo spread Vogue was famous in those days for picturing women and dog collars. And it was Helmut. What's this name? How can I forget Helmut Neiman? If I couldn't remember it, you wouldn't recognize he's a very famous photographer too. 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friend,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=8.87,10.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or photocopy at the library,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=10.71,13.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but make them feel it 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diet","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=29.25,31.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of fluff starts in high school and college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=31.34,34.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're not gonna be reading 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Leary","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=59.0,61.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just met enormous resistance from advertisers","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504#t=61.62,64.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42902/file/115504/transcript/27137/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because their belief is 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It's too bad, but it really works, so, yeah\r\n\r\n- I think I do a lot of college population and a lot of what you're talking about with women getting this diet of fluff starts in high school and college. They're not gonna be reading this. That's just not their type of magazine. Are there any movements in advertising right now with maybe women who are running these advertising agencies to have different kinds of advertisements for high school and college women that show real women you know, 545, 140 pounds, whatever real women in the advertisements, is there any kind of movement?\r\n\r\n- Not an advertising in fact Francis Leary just met enormous resistance from advertisers because their belief is that women's contempt is so complete by the time they're 40 that even women don't wanna look at pictures of themselves. And so we don't even get images of what we really look like at 40, not in advertising. There have been subtle and slow changes in advertising you know, the no comment section and this did shame several companies out of terribly sexist ads, but in terms of image, no, partly because there is a proliferation of these products now, you know, if you're not doing something about your skin you're really regarded as slovenly which is, you know, just absurd. But when you walk into the cosmetics department, look I mean, it's a $30 billion industry for dieting. It's more than that for cosmetics we're talking about a powerful economic force here. So what we're saying is, if women in this culture we gained their self-esteem it could collapse the economy. A lot of jobs would be lost possibly more than the military. I mean, changing to a PC kind of a moving from a self-loathing, you know and what I keep thinking about all of the other things that could be done with this money. I attended a conference in Atlanta Georgia last year to cover a story from Amazon women in economic development. And I remember the Jetta John's, this comedian had said that she went into a California diets bar to find out how much it would cost her to lose 35 pounds and she was given an estimated total of $35,000. And she said, shiet, for $35,000 I could hire somebody else to go out and be me provide a job, you know, $35,000 so it's big money. I really think it has to be begin almost someplace else almost outside of that industry. I almost think that it, you know and there are certainly signs that a resistance is being formed and there've been there's been constant consciousness raising about this issue for the last 15 years. We make very, very slow in roads on that. Everybody likes to say, this is from my speech tonight that change takes time, but change doesn't take time. Women have changed, we are ready to change. Resistance takes time and resistance takes an enormous amount of time. And there are billions of dollars behind that resistance. I mean, here's another thing that I will probably cover tonight is if you think about the whole era battle many of you may not have been reading a lot of the new daily coverage of it in the newspapers then but the big that was really about economics too. It was really about changing women's status in the society but Phyllis Schlafly in the Eagle Forum funded by multinational corporations managed to keep the debate focused on unisex toilets and the fear of drafting women. Well, it is now 12 years later, we don't have equal pay. We do have unisex toilets and we do have women in the military. Very interesting, so, you know, it's not that we haven't been talking about these things. It's not that the issues aren't out there and you know, there are writers like Naomi Wolf and the beauty myth who really clearly indicate what the extent of the issues are. But, you know, each generation, I think changes a bit but we are up against powerful economic forces right now. Anyone else have a question?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- the FDA has a big problem whereas in Europe they have all these new devices and everything and it takes, it takes them to get certified or whatever over there, it takes your 10 years .\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And I was wondering why that is.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, that's a good question. Why it takes so long? Well, part of it is the FDA does set up some of the best safety measures and safety standards for approving new drugs and medications. First, they have to get protocols for testing. They have to, you know, register new drugs. They have to be tested in clinical trial. It takes years to collect this data and contraception devices, the AIDS crisis will undoubtedly move that more swiftly along 'cause it's been very interesting what has happened in the gay community. This is another, I know a lot about this because I spent a year in the ACT UP underground. They have what are known as buyer's clubs and gorilla clinics. And they have a treatment and data committee that publishes an underground newsletter. The buyer's clubs evolved because when it was taking so long for drugs like AZT and DDI and DDC to wind their way through the system, we were in the the gay community organized to bootleg these drugs from other countries where they were being sold. And they were legitimately for sale with prescription but you could get them. So they were being bootlegged into this country and they were being sold for cost through the buyer's clubs. While in order to monitor the patients who were self-diagnosing, self-medicating, we needed clinics to take care of them so that all these clinics sprung up which the Hasting clinic called Guerilla clinics because they were not working with the FDA and they were not working in the clinical trials. And this became important to do because if only if you have a disease like AIDS, which is life threatening and the time is running out and these are possibly life extending drugs. They're not curious for AIDS, but they have had the prophylaxis therapist that we have now has had a remarkable effect for prolonging lives. Well, each year you can stay alive leads you closer at first of all it improves the quality of your life. But also it's very possible that, you know, the longer you can live, the closer we get to a cure. So it was very important while the two the only way to get these drugs was to register in a clinical trial. And you could only get into the clinical trials if you met the protocols and in order to purify the test results, they eliminated all of the variables from the norm which were drug addicts all minorities, women, and children which left you with a norm of a fairly healthy white male who was HIV positive. So it meant all of those other populations had no access to drugs. That's why the Guerilla clinics sprung up the buyer's club and the other thing that's so interesting about this to me was these people were doing this illegally knowing that it was illegal. They felt that it was very important to do because people would die otherwise. And so they had a strong motivation for doing it but the gay community which is already an oppressed group knew and understood how to organize. So within their own community they had pharmacists, doctors, statisticians, they had desktop publishers to get information out. They had the fax machines, they had everything within their own community that they needed. They also had phenomenal fundraising abilities because you have many households with two male incomes in them. That's a well-financed household. All of these things combined together to make this a very powerful force. At the same time, hundreds of thousands millions of Americans were losing their health insurance and all access to medical care here in our own communities. This underground exists now in every single major city in the United States, there are buyer's clubs, there are Guerrilla clinics and you can have access to the TMD bulletins on what's new, what's next, no lawsuits in seven years. And obviously there've been some bizarre and extreme experiments, there have been doubts and this is a very litigious population. Still no malpractice suits against either a buyer's club or a Guerilla clinic. Partly because it's non-profit, nobody's making money off of this. They're only doing it as a service and partly because nobody wants it shut down. The FDA is very aware of this. And last year, because they couldn't shut this down, and because it meant that they were losing part of their population in the clinical trials because of the protocols. If you were on one kind of drug that you thought was helping you and you wanted to get this other one you had to stop taking this one and take that one. And it was to purify them the results of the science but it didn't particularly care about the life of the patient. So people were aligning in the clinical studies they're saying no, I'm not using that drug and they were all of the placebos were exposed because they would go in for DDC and if they found out that they were taking a placebo and how did they find out, they just went to the underground lab and said, test this for me. If it's a placebo I'm dropping out of the study, so they did. So in order for the FDA and drug companies to continue the validity of their tests the underground literally had to be legalized. And when that underground was legalized it changed everything for the rest of us as well. What came into reality last year was compassionate use drugs so that if someone needs a drug that the FDA hasn't approved and it is legal, any place else in the world you can now legally import it and you won't be prosecuted. They developed laws for the parallel track so that if a community doctor said my patients can't get into your clinical trials. So you have to supply me with the drug so that I can administrate these patients. The parallel track was legalized. Well, that will make a big difference for women with breast cancer. If we can also organize and use these medical changes that have been made. So that is a much longer answer to your question. Then you want to make sure any other questions about journalism or anything?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Oh it's a very interesting place. I love teaching there. It's a large undergraduate as well as a huge graduate school and has lots and lots of components. And has a Parsons School of Design has a law school. It has a graduate school but it actually started with three professors from Yale who were feeling that they did not have adequate academic freedom in the 1930s. And then when the Nazi threat became very very apparent in Germany and in Europe they actively recruited many of the Jewish intellectuals and throughout Europe and many of the Jewish scholars and invited them here to help start the school. So it's been in existence since the mid 1930s and it still has a strong commitment to serve as a community forum as one of the largest adult education programs in Manhattan because it uses the city resources, its filmmakers, its artists, its writers and its other professionals. And the classes that I've taught there have just been absolutely fascinating you know, find out that most of my students have produced Broadway plays, I'm thinking, what am I doing up here? But they come because, you know they're always interested in a new genre or interested in expanding what they're doing. 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