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Errington Memorial Lecture. We're excited about the program this evening, and I'm confident that you're gonna find it to be both informative and stimulating. Before we introduce our speaker for the evening, however, I would like to make some acknowledgements. First and foremost, I'd like to acknowledge the presence of Mrs. Errington. Mrs. Errington, could you stand and be recognized? I'd also like to publicly acknowledge those who have served with me on the Errington Lecture Committee. they have included Warren Johnson and Joe Grady. We've had a third member also help us a great deal. Although not an official member of the committee, he has been very instrumental in helping us throughout the planning process, and that is Paul Bose. Later, Paul will be introducing our guest speaker. There are several sponsors for our program this evening. They are listed in your program, and I won't bother mentioning them. We've also included in your programs some biographical information about Paul Errington's accomplishments and professional development, and I would certainly encourage you to read that information. Dr. Errington had an international recognition and was recognized throughout the world for his pioneer work dealing with population regulation and interaction between predator prey populations. And I have had occasion to reflect back on my introduction to the work of Paul Errington as an early graduate student. My mentors at that time considered the writings of Dr. Errington to be classics, and to be a very integral part of our training, as well, like professionals, and I suspect that my experience was not unique. Dr. Errington's work is very well-known and very well-respected among those in the wildlife profession. Recently, I had the occasion to spend some time in the archives of the ISU library, and I took that occasion to spend some time perusing the material they had on the special collections on the career and life of Paul Errington, and I must say that I was very impressed with what I found. I discovered, for instance, that Dr. Errington has published over 200 titles in his professional career. These have included six monograph length articles. They've also included four popular books, and those popular books are mentioned in your program. I think particularly noteworthy in Dr. Errington's career, however, it was his ability to bring his research findings to the lay audience. And I found that he had published in 30 different popular journals and magazines, either printed material or reprinted material of work that he had done, and I think that's to his credit. His ability convey his scientific findings to the lay audience, as well as to the technical audience. I was particularly impressed with the reviews that he received for his first popular book entitled \"Of Men and Marshes.\" And I'd like to share with you three brief quotes from the reviews, which he received back in 1958 for this first book that was published. One reviewer said the following, \"A fine, genuine book in which Dr. Errington \"has distilled a lifetime of thought and scene.\" \"Nearly every paragraph contains vignettes \"of Errington's little critters. \"The mink, the muskrat, egrets, and other marsh life \"that we know that he knew so intimately.\" \"Tying these portraits together \"is a man's simple, colorful philosophy \"that will be felt by anyone \"who has ever fallen through the ice, \"watched a hunting mink, \"or seen geese against the snow or moon. \"It is a good writing, \"and in some places, it is beautiful writing.\" Another reviewer said, \"Dr. Errington's important book, \"endorsed by leading conservationists, \"is filled with an abiding love of the out of doors, \"and the wisdom of a mind that for all its detailed \"scientific knowledge is yet warmly human and humble.\" And yet a third review, \"I have never met Paul L. Errington, \"but I have long felt a personal debt for the insight \"which his ecological studies have given into nature's ways. \"It is an intensely personal book \"written out of an intimate experience by one, \"who better than any other American, \"sees the marsh world with nature's eyes.\" And I think the last statement in our program is worth repeating. Paul L.Errington passed along a priceless heritage of conservation wisdom and insight to those of us who have had the opportunity to read what he wrote, who have benefited from his skills, and who must continue to question and enlarge upon his findings. And it's a great deal with pleasure and pride that we recognize and pay tribute to Dr. Errington as a person and as a scientist. I'd now like to call on Paul Bose from the department of ecology to introduce our guest speaker for the evening.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Dr. Bess. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my privilege to introduce our speaker this evening. Part of the opportunity that I got to do that was because I was out in Oregon when the spotted owl saga began. And in 1972, Howard White had a student named Eric Forsman who began the study of spotted owls. And I can always tell you that this sage, old, wise baldhead told Eric Forsman that after he finished his first study on spotted owls he should go somewhere else besides Oregon State, and he should study some other species because he'd shortened his life span as investigator if he'd spent it all on spotted owls. Well, Eric Forsman is one of the foremost people knowledgeable on spotted owls, and still works closely with our speaker this evening. So, it goes to tell you that you could be in on the beginning, but it's good to hang around for the end because it's liable to turn out differently than what you thought. The whole question of spotted owls fell into Chuck Maslow's lap after Howard White, who was the major professor for Eric, died. And Chuck was assistant unit leader and became a unit leader at Oregon State University, and took over the spotted owl work. And it's gone from an interactional study between an animal and its habitat, to something much larger than that. It's now something that challenges, in some cases, timber harvest practices. It challenges, in some cases, the Endangered Species Act, because of the political aspects of the questions that we'll hear about tonight. And also, it's very clear that it challenges the wise management and sustained yield of some of our forest stocks within the west. So, our speaker tonight has managed, worked, and found funding for spotted owl studies when such was difficult. And he would probably tell you that it went from something very difficult to something overwhelming in a short period of time, and he wished it had been more evenly flowing throughout the time that he has been involved with the study. So, he has managed the funding, the students, the controversy, and the biology, to become one of the foremost authorities on spotted owls in the country, and tonight, he will share that. So, I would like to introduce a gentleman who got two degrees from the University of Minnesota. Went from there to Wisconsin, and spent some time studying cycles with Dr. Lloyd B. Keith in Canada, while he was there. And then, because he had a great desire to be cooled after that warm experience in Canada, he spent some time in University of North Dakota in Fargo, and then went on from there to Oregon State University, where he has been there now for some 20 years as leader of the Oregon Cooperative Wildlife Research Unit. It's my pleasure to introduce Dr. E. Charles Meslow.\r\n\r\n- Thank you for the introduction, Paul. Paul knows some other stories about Meslow, and he refrained from telling all of them tonight. I appreciate that. Mrs. Errington, ladies and gentlemen, it's my pleasure to share with you some observations on some 20 years of trying to understand the spotted owl. I'm gonna start off like a good bureaucrat and attempt to deny responsibility for what I'm going to say here tonight. I am a US Fish and Wildlife Service employee. I do not represent the US Fish and Wildlife Service here tonight. Throughout most of the spotted owl wars, if you will, the controversy that surrounded the animal for a number of years, the Fish and Wildlife Service has given me free rein to speak out on the biology of the animal, but they've always cautioned me that I do not make any inference that I represent the policy of the Fish and Wildlife Service, the department of interior, or the administration. I do not do so here tonight. Of late, the leadership at the very highest levels in the Fish and Wildlife Service, specifically, our director John Turner, has been very supportive of the dissemination of accurate biological information on the species. And those of us that are involved are very appreciative of his support. Much has changed. In the scale at which biologists, wildlife biologists, gather information, since Paul Errington said about gathering the seminal information on predator prey relationships in the Midwest. For instance, I certainly didn't do the work, or very much of this work myself. Rather, I, as Paul indicated, served as a supervisor, a director for a whole succession of graduate students and field assistants. These days, as many as perhaps 35 young men and women are employed by Oregon State University, gathering information on spotted owls. Spotted owl field investigations have come a long way since Eric Forsman began his investigations in 1969. He was an undergraduate at OSU at that point in time, and convinced Howard White that he indeed had all of the unique animal biologically, and that he could gather quality information on this critter, and it had the makings of a good graduate program. Eric and Howard struck a bargain that after Eric returned from service in the army, this was Vietnam time, that he'd have a slot in a master's degree program at Oregon State University. Also, kind of as a sidelight, that last summer before he went in the service, Eric took a female, juvenile female spotted owl into captivity. Her name is Fat Broad. She's got a little weight problem. She's still alive. That makes her, I believe, about 22 years old. That's a long time, and she's been a really strong source of information on things like molt, and vocalizations, rates of egg-laying, longevity. Things of this sort. Eric worked on his master's degree, or began work on his master's degree, as Paul indicated, with Howard White. When Howard died, I continued as his supervisor. Forsman continues to work with spotted owls, and lives in Corvallis now. Works for the forest service, and remains perhaps, the foremost authority on the biology of the animal. There are some other names that it's incumbent upon me to recognize. Gary Miller, David Johnson, Kit Hershey, Keith Swindle, Frank Wagner, Jim Thrailkill. They've all played lead roles in all data acquisition efforts. It's a team effort, and I acknowledge the contribution of a real fine group of dedicated and bright young men and women. I would also be remiss if I did not acknowledge the agencies that have supported this work over the years. First, they're the cooperators at the Oregon Cooperative Wildlife Research Unit, Oregon State University, US Fish and Wildlife Service, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, Wildlife Management Institute. Financially, we have received most of our support for the in the field studies from the US Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management. These are the two federal land managing agencies that control those Western Oregon timber lands that the owls are utilizing. I suspect before we're done tonight we'll question some of the ways that the forest service and BLM have managed their lands, and especially as it relates to managing them for the benefit of the spotted owl. I think it's important right at the outset to recognize that through all these tough times for these agencies, that they have continued to support the research efforts that is gathering data that wasn't exactly making their management decisions any easier. And that's worth noting. Enough for background. What are we gonna do here tonight? First, I'd like to talk to you about some of the biology of the spotted owl. Try and acquaint you with it. It, in my estimation is really quite a remarkable animal, and I want to see if I can't convince you of that. I want you to get a bit of a feel for the old forest, the ancient forest of the northwest. They're also truly remarkable. And then finally, we'd like to look at some of the management scenarios that have been attempted, and may be in the process of evolving at the current time. So, with that, if I could have the lights, please. Whoops. Here we go. Well, there it is. That's the critter, the northern spotted owl. That particular animal, I think you can see on the right-hand leg, carries a blue leg band. How's the focus? How are we doing? Is it sharp, or relatively sharp? It's getting worse. I'm not gonna touch it. We'll let him work at it in the back, and if we get this in, it'll be better. Nope. Okay, I'll try. You get a lousy angle from down here, I'm sorry. Anyway, that's the critter. They do not have red eyes. That's an artifact of a strobe light in low light conditions. They have dark brown eyes. We talked a lot about Eric Forsman. Here he is. You'd think that after we've spent some 20-some years or more working in the Pacific Northwest that you'd learn enough to at least take a rain jacket along with you when you go out in December. Well, guess what, friends? We don't. We're no better than anybody else. You need to meet Fat Broad. She's sitting on the logger's shoulder here. This was a centerfold from \"Life Magazine\" this year. Probably was 1990 in review, or some such title on an annual \"Life\" issue, and it's a photograph of the spotted owl on the shoulder of a logger. She willingly stayed there and posed for, I think Eric said they ran about 23 rolls of film to get the right expression on everybody. Some other, the folks we want to make sure that you understand this is a team effort. This is Gary Miller on the left, who's a long-time worker with the owl program. On the right in the green T-shirt is Kim Nelson. Kim is now leading an effort that's looking at the marbled murrelet, which is a small, robin-sized seabird that's proposed for threatened status that's got some peculiar associations with old forests, as well. Okay, here's the forest. This is a photograph taken in the H.J. Andrews area. It's in the Willamette National Forest, just a little ways east of the city of Eugene, Oregon. Eugene lies about 90 miles. Excuse me, about 120 miles south of Portland in the Willamette Valley. As you turn east from Willamette Valley, you go up into the Cascades. And at one time, there were very extensive forests, old-growth forests, such as this. Now, they are considerably more fragmented. This is the problem. Sometimes this is referred to as mobile homes for spotted owls. Those are big logs, folks. If you compare the size of those sections to the size of the tires on those big trucks, they're big logs. Three log loads are common. On occasion, you still see a single log load. Part of the situation is political. We'll kind of conclude the talk this evening on that. This is a group of congressmen, congressional staffers, that were viewing one of the new forestry or new perspectives in forestry cut units on the Willamette National Forest last summer. And here, I guess, is the thing that certainly none of us anticipated when we started out that we'd eventually get to the point where a issue that started off simply as our curiosity about the biology of a pretty rare animal ends up being a national issue and ends up on the cover of \"Time Magazine.\" Guess I first recognized it was probably getting to be a nationwide issue when I heard it mentioned on \"Saturday Night Live.\" That that was my tip-off that we were in big time. Okay, enough of the kind of picture shows here to introduce the topic. Let's look at some of the biology. Photograph of the owl again. Let's see what we can do with focus again. I guess that's about it. There's three subspecies of spotted owls. The northern spotted owl is in blue on the photograph. extends from the southern portion of British Columbia on down to near the vicinity of San Francisco. It's replaced by the California spotted owl in other areas in California, and then the Mexican subspecies in red. Distribution of the Mexican subspecies in Mexico is based on precious few records, and it's largely a hypothetical distribution there. Distribution. Everybody wants to know how many of them are there? It's a threatened species. Well, obviously, it must be rare. Well, it's not particularly rare. There's quite a few pairs of spotted owls out there. These were what were estimated for numbers in April of 1989. There's considerably more than that. However, the proportional distribution of pairs remains similar so that if you want to know relative numbers, this gives you a good idea. There's, I would estimate now, there's something on the order of about 5,000 pairs of spotted owls that we know of in the range of the northern spotted owl. Some of the specifics on life history. It's got some characteristics that lead to its problems, if you will. One that stands in good stead pretty much is that it's a long lived animal. Mentioned that the one in captivity had made it to some 21 or 22 years. We have one bird in the wild that's at a minimum of 17 years of age. There's several that are in the 15 area. They don't reproduce very young. They're a minimum of two years of age at first reproduction. Most frequently, we suspect they're considerably older. They don't have many babies at any one time. Two eggs are the rule. They don't reproduce regularly. They don't breed every year. On a population basis, it's more on the order of every other year, but some individuals will breed consecutive years for three, four years. Others won't breed it all for three or four years, so it's highly variable. The survival rate of juveniles is perhaps summarized as being pretty poor. 11 to perhaps 19% are the values that we've been able to derive thus far. However, if you look at the adult survival rate, it's pretty darn good. It has to be, if birds can live as long as, say, 17 to 20 years. So, if you're living that long, you don't need to successfully reproduce very often. So, that a reasonably low juvenile survival is not too surprising, actually. What sorta habitats to the occupy? Well, it's the one in the upper left there that is the one that's causing us concern. It's the old-growth forest in the Pacific Northwest. These are incredibly valuable forests. A hundred acres of old-growth forest out to the west of Corvallis, forest service puts it up to sale. If you want to go out and purchase it for the privilege of sticking a chain saw in it, you're gonna pay someplace between 1 1/2 and $2 million. That's not the value of the processed lumber. That's the standing trees on the stump. That's what you'd be paying the forest service or BLM to get in there and get at that timber. It's incredibly valuable. And the trick with the owl is it uses a lot of this timber. On the order of several thousand acres per pair. What are some of the characteristics of these forests that the animal occupies? Well, this schematic shows a number of them. The basic one is you got to have some big trees, and in order for trees to get really big, they gotta get pretty old. If you've got real high site quality, they get big quicker than if grown up poor site, but you need some big trees. Those big trees don't live forever. When they die, they'll form a snag, or they may fall over directly onto the ground and become a big log on the ground. Those are, both snags and logs, big ones, are prominent characteristics of old-growth forests. Another thing that's very characteristic of these forests is a pretty high, excuse me, a pretty high canopy closure. On the order of 70 to 80%. Someplace in that vicinity. But it's also patchy. Old growth forests are not uniform. They're not rank after rank, regularly spaced, big, old trees. Over the course of three, 400 years, lots of environmental events occur. There's rainstorms, there's lightning strikes, there's bugs that get in and chew on individual trees, and there's openings created. With the openings, you get a light coming to the forest floor, and you get regrowth. Sometimes some Douglas fir can make it into some of these openings. If there's enough sunlight, more often, it just stimulates the development of western hemlock, western red cedar, or some of the deciduous species. Madrone, oaks play an important role. Hardwoods in general play an important role in the understory of these old-growth forests. We're hearing a lot these days about another conifer species, the yew, the Pacific yew. You've heard about it as a source for taxol, a drug that may prove to be very effective in addressing certain forms of cancer. Here's a photograph taken in the H.J. Andrews. Again, west, excuse me, east of Eugene, Oregon, in an old-growth forest. I think you can see in it many of the characteristics that were depicted on the diagrammatic slide. A lot of those, several of those big, straight stems that you see there are in fact not living trees, they're standing dead ones, snags. It's hard to take a picture in a forest when it's several hundred feet tall. Even wide angle lens don't give you the proper perspective. But you can see the logs on the forest floor, the fact that there's a number of layers in that canopy. Here's one of those chance environmental events. A windstorm in the forest is laid waste to a group of trees. Again, check the size of those trees where they've been sawn through so that the folks can get through on the trail. Big trees. The light colors on some of those deciduous trees in there, the conifers, would indicate that some light is getting through that canopy. It's not a dark, dense, gloomy forest. It's real patchy, and there's a good bit of light gets to the forest floor in places. I've got a real high tech pointer here that I just have to use, okay? Here's a photograph that's hard to come by in Oregon these days. This was taken up in the vicinity of Crater Lake. It shows a pretty unbroken expanse of forest. I'm not sure how old all this forest is. I shouldn't pretend that this is an unbroken, expansive of old-growth forest, but when white man first arrived on the west coast, someplace between 50 and 70% of the forested area, west of the Cascades, consisted of old forest. These would be forests in the 200 year old age category and older. We've gotten right with it since then. Here is a scene that was taken, now looking at Mount Hood, in about 1980. This would represent, I believe, what we all would have considered, good forest management practices, as of circa 1980. It's patchwork clear cutting. The clear cuts are the appropriate size for that time. They're small. They're not huge clear cuts running across the whole landscape. If you look closely, you can see that there's reproduction occurring in those cuts. I'm gonna fool with the focus once more. It's a try. Foresters are very adept at reforesting areas. If they're working in decent site quality lands, they get young trees re-established after a cut. So, it's not a question of not being able to replant and re-establish trees. However, that scene is a far cry from an expansible forest. What man has done here is to lay a pretty heavy hand on a natural system. And the intent, as of still at this point, is to manage those cut units so that when they get up to about 60 to 80 years of age they're gonna be harvested again. When you do that and convert the whole landscape to a series of patched clear cuts varying in age from zero to 80 years, that's pretty well a prescription for the extinction, local extension of the spotted owl. We hear the term forest fragmentation a lot, in conjunction, perhaps, with another term, landscape ecology. These are kind of current ecological buzzwords, and they're important ones. They're also hard to understand, perhaps. It's hard to differentiate between forest fragmentation and the simple removal of old forests, the reduction in acres of old forest. Here certainly though, I think everyone would agree that this is a fragment of forest that's left up there. And such fragments are not very effective for interior for a species such as the owl. Again, someone, in this case, Congressman Bruce Vento from Minnesota, who's chairman of the interior, one of the interior sub-committees dealing with parks, that is looking at ways of legislating solutions to old-growth forests. He was out visiting some of the forested areas here last summer. I don't want to leave you with the impression that spotted owls are found only in old-growth forests. I think I've probably led you pretty far that way by my comments so far tonight. This is Joe Lint from the Bureau of Land Management, admiring the redwood stump near Arcata, California. The forest that had been standing there was home to spotted owls. Those little patches of trees that you see in the background are currently supporting spotted owls. It's a mixture of redwoods. You can see there's a lot of hardwoods in there. There's also some Douglas fir. Redwoods develop very rapidly by virtue of their specific characteristics. There's a very benign, favorable climate for tree development in northwestern California, and these forests develop at a relatively early age. Many of the characteristics that forests in Oregon, farther north, attain only after perhaps 150 or 200 years. And as a result, we've got all's present in these redwood, regenerating redwood forests, at 60 to 80 years of age. So far, we don't know how successful those owls are in those situations, whether or not in fact they are reproducing and living long enough so that reproduction is balancing mortality rates. But they are certainly present there. A shot of our star for the night here. Here's the fun part with the animal. It's unafraid of humans. Here, one has joined a bunch of us on a log landing for lunch. We didn't call to it. It just flew in and joined us. It sat there for half an hour while we ate lunch, and just watched us. I suspect the reason may be that he had been fed a mouse a time or two that summer, and knew that mice came from groups of people that came out to see it, so it arrived for that reason, perhaps, but they are unafraid of humans. When you call to them in the spring, they'll respond. They will talk back to you. They will approach you. If you imitate a spotted owl call, I'll try it here. They'll respond. When they do, they'll come towards you to investigate the supposed intruder into their territory. When they come in close, you can present them with a prey item. We use mostly white laboratory mice. They don't seem to mind that the color's a little strange. They'll come down, pick up that mouse. They'll take it virtually out of your hand. They'll lug it back to mom and the kids in the nest, and you can test to tell whether or not a particular pair is breeding or nesting by whether or not they take the prey item back to the nest. Another photograph of Mr. Forsman. This was in his somewhat younger days, and he's letting an owl take a mouse off his shoulder. The more routine manner of capturing the birds is to use a long-handled or a long-handled pole. That doesn't make sense. You use a extendible fishing rod. To the tip, you attach a piece of a weed-eater monofilament that makes a nice, heavy noose, and just run it back down through the butt of the pole. David Johnson here is in the process of slipping a noose over the neck of an owl, catching it. You can see the arc in the fishing rod there, and as rapidly as possible, you lower it to the ground and subdue the critter, and then you proceed to perform all the sorts of insults that biologists do when they get hands on a live animal. We weigh it, we measure it, we get wing cords. We band it, and probably in this case, I think we installed a radio transmitter. When it's done, the bird's released. That has got to be the most traumatic thing that's ever happened to that old owl. I don't know how old it might be. Five, six years old. It's just been grabbed, and subdued, and handled for half an hour, and you can hardly imagine anything more traumatic occurring to a beast. So, what's it do when you release it? Well, it's probably gonna fly to the nearest convenient perch, 20 yards, 15 yards away. Will sit there and kind of fluff up and be a little disturbed, and might squawk a couple times at you. The great thing is if you pull out the mouse again and present it to him, they're very apt to come right back down and take the mouse. It's kind of like when mom's on the nest with the kids, there's a switch flipped up here. And if you see a piece of prey, you go get that prey, and haul it back to mom and the kids. It makes for just a great animal to work with. All of us have had experience trying to work with other predators. Most wildlife responds negatively to humans. Here's one that is just a real joy to work with. So, what do we do all these insulting things to the animal for? Well, radio transmitters have proved an invaluable source of information. Here's a set of radio locations, connected by lines just running between adjacent locations. There's a time interval between those locations. Maybe anything from about 15 minutes to as much as several days. So, the lines connecting the points don't mean anything. They're just lines through time. They don't mean that the owl traveled that route at all. However, what sort of habitat did that owl choose to utilize? The green habitat is old-growth forest. The other, or the other colors, are younger age classes. Does the owl select for old-growth forest? I don't think you need to use much in the way of statistical tests to say, \"Hey, yeah, I agree. \"There's some level of selection for old forests.\" Is it just one bird? No, it isn't. It's all the birds that we've studied, essentially, show that same level of selection for forest with old-growth, that are old-growth, or old-growth-like characteristics. This is an animal that was on a US Forest Service holding where the forests were more or less continuous. In the center area here, this is a relatively high... Hesitate to call it mountain top. At least a protuberance through the forest where you're getting above preferred habitat for the owl. So, it was kind of going around that. But again, it's obvious, even though there's a lot more of the old forest available to this animal, it's still just as selective for it. Here's a owl that was using some BLM lands. This would be one square mile. It was going a long way to seek out those patches of old forest. The green areas. The home ranges of owls vary. They're larger in the north in the Olympic Peninsula area. They may be on the order of 12,000 or more acres. Really large. As you come farther south into the Cascades and coast ranges of Oregon, central Oregon, they're more on the order of four or 5,000 acres. About 2,000 acres, or a little bit more, of that four to 5,000 in the central area of Oregon is going to be old forest. As you go farther south in the range of the animal, the home ranges tend to get smaller, and the amounts of included old-growth tend to be smaller. Here's some other assemblages of home ranges of animals. These were some adjacent pairs of owls that were tracked. It shows you the sort of patterns that developed from the radio telemetry locations, and also in the lower portion here shows the overlap between males and females of a pair and of adjacent pairs. So, there's a considerable of overlap, especially between members of a pair, but also between adjacent pairs. They don't use the entire home range at all times of the year. The largest home ranges are generally used during the winter. The smallest areas are used, not surprisingly, during the nesting season. This star right there represents the eventual nest site for that bird. Here's a busy slide. 632 or 36 dots on that map. Quick, count 'em. This was the state of the art, or the state of knowledge on spotted owl pairs in about 1980. We now have, oh, pushing 2,000 locations on where we've located spotted owls over the years. The level of intensity of our effort has increased dramatically in the last several years. However, the pattern that's exhibited here remains the same. The virtual absence of locations up here in the northwest corner of the state is still there, despite a lot of looking. The absence of locations down here in the vicinity of Coos Bay, Oregon is still there. The stuff up here, many of you may have heard of the Tillamook burn. A large fire in the '30s, repeat burns through the '40s. It's since been reforested. That whole area is forested, but the trees aren't very old. They're around the order of 40, 50 years old, and there is a virtual absence of owls in the northwest corner of the state. The areas that didn't burn are in private ownership. They have been harvested, and there is essentially, no older forest present in northwestern Oregon, and there are no, or essentially, no owls there. Certainly, no one would claim that there is a viable population of owls present. Here's another way of looking at habitat selection. The number of sites, this was out of a total of 1,500 sites as of 1984, 1,282 were associated with old forests. The next biggest category was here, where you had a mixture of old and mature forest, but you gotta be careful. See down here? there still are some of those. I guess, one of the things that we have to learn as biologists is that you never say never or always, because that's almost never the case. This is a young owl, pretty easy to tell. You can see some down around the nape of the neck. That's the last place where the feathers are replaced. They've also got another real neat characteristic. Kind of a biologist's assist. Look at the tips of those retrices. They're white-tipped. They retain those juvenile retrices for about 22 months, so that for the first 22 months of life, they're marked as a juvenile. When you see one, you can immediately tell the age of the owl. A real nice handle that they've given us. What do these critters eat? If we know what they eat, then maybe we can better understand how we might be able to manage forests to retain them. This is a northern flying squirrel. In various areas of the owl's range from about the center part of Oregon on north, it's the predominant item in the diet. Perhaps as much as 40% of the diet of the spotted owl is composed of northern flying squirrels. That's a tremendous proportion. The dusky-footed woodrat replaces the flying squirrel as the principle prey item as you go south from about the Roseburg area. That's about the southern third of Oregon, on into northern California. This is the red tree vole. That's another common item in the diet of the spotted owl. All three of these are nocturnal, arboreal, or semi-arboreal mammals. This little dude, we run into weird animals in the northwest and old-growth forest. It may live its entire life up in the top of a Douglas fir tree or trees. It feeds apparently exclusively on Douglas fir needles. It achieves it's water either through the needles or through fog drip off the needles. Really, some remarkable life history strategies that have developed. We're gonna talk about reproduction in owls, and this looks like it might be a prelude to such, but if you look close, what do you see? You see some white-tipped retrices. That's actually a young owl begging food from an adult. So, don't be led astray, but we will talk about reproduction. Let's talk about where do these critters nest? This is perhaps the most common sort of nest site. It's in the broken off top of a old Douglas fir tree or western hemlock tree. Perhaps 150 feet up. When the top snaps off, very often a secondary canopy of branches will again, try and form a crown, partially cover, shade, shelter a nest site such as this. That's probably the most common, or certainly one of the very most common nest sites. They use all sorts of nest sites. Owls can't build their own nests, so they've got to use some preformed structure. Mistletoe infection is pretty common in ancient forests. Owls will find a place and just kind of burrow in into a patch or a bunch of mistletoe, and perhaps an area where some trash has accumulated there, or a woodrat perhaps, might have been in there working on a nest, and they'll use that as a nest site. It's not easy to climb up into the top of a big, old tree. It's done. I do it by shooting an arrow over the lowest branch, pulling up first, a leader cord, and then a climbing rope, and then ascending to that point with a set of jumar climbers. So, you're using essentially, rock climbing techniques to get up there. We don't do it very often. It's too much work for the biological return. 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By the time you get to where you're in a pure Ponderosa pine stand, a Ponderosa pine forest, the owls are no longer present. When you get out of a forest that has a significant component of Douglas fir, you're starting to get out of spotted owl habitat. Goshawk on a nest. Goshawk is present in most of these forests that have spotted owls, except in the coast ranges of Oregon. The goshawk is absent in the coast ranges. But old goshawk nests are commonly usurped by spotted owls as nest sites. It's an interesting one because goshawks are also a occasional predator on spotted owls. Sometimes in some places spotted owls don't use great huge trees. This is taken in the vicinity of Fresno, California on the Sierra National Forest. I believe this is a blue oak tree, and the nest site was either right in there, or I think it's right there. Not a very big tree. It was in a, used a cavity in there. However, the age of that tree is perhaps just as old as some of those big old Doug firs further north in the animal's range. This was, by the way, a California subspecies, not the northern subspecies. Very frequently there are two young produced. Next most common group size of fledgling is one. Very occasionally we'll get three. We've tried adding animals. Once in a while we'll come upon an orphaned bird or a youngster that someone has taken into captivity. We've taken them back out and placed them with a pair of owls in the wild and the nesting owls will adopt an additional youngster just very easily. We've marked a number of these youngsters when they're a little bit older than they were in that last photograph and looked at, how did they disperse from their nest sites? It's a real important piece of biological information as we try and devise a management strategy for the animal. We need to know how far apart it's appropriate to space, appropriate habitat for the animal. We want to make sure that the youngsters can be expected to have a reasonable chance of dispersing from one patch of suitable habitat and having an opportunity to encounter another suitable patch. This, I think, represents the dispersal tracks of about 26 young spotted owls. The purpose of displaying it is to indicate that there's no apparent directional attribute to this, other than this bunch up here. That, by the way, is the HJ Andrews area. Right about where my pointer is. And they've pretty uniformly headed downstream along the McKenzie river. But the rest of the animals, as far as we can tell, were dispersing in essentially a random fashion. This is Western Oregon. This is Crater Lake National Park. Each of those little squares, if you can make them out, is a township in size. So that's 36 square miles inside each of the squares like that. Six miles on a side. Yeah, there's my scale. If you're into kilometers, it's 30 kilometers up there. I'm not very good at converting kilometers right now. How far do those a little fellows go when you put a radio on them? Well, they go quite, a lot of them go quite a long ways. The average dispersal distance here, mean was something on the order about 17 miles. Some of them went a long ways. 50 miles there was not uncommon. Since then we've had a couple of records where birds have gone as far as 90 miles. They don't go in a straight line, which I showed nice straight vectors previously. Here's a more typical one. The bird originated at a nest site here. By the 12th of October it had settled for the winter. Again, these represent a six by six mile area. So it had made, oh, 14, perhaps 18 miles down here. The next spring, breeding season, I suppose sap was rising and it might've attempted a hoot and probably found that he was perched too close to a resident pair of owls and got asked to leave and started dispersing again. Ended up here by the 14th of April, down to here by the 22nd of June. And at that point we lost contact with the animal. Here's a more straight line dispersal. The animal started on the 4th of November up pretty high in the Cascades, and essentially came right straight down the McKenzie River. And did it pretty rapidly, so that by the, what, the 13th of November was down here just outside of Springfield, Oregon. Stopped. Right about at this point is the edge of the Willamette Valley. And we've never had one of the birds transit out across the Willamette Valley. They all stopped when they got down here. And the 9th of December, that bird was dead. That's what happened to a pretty high proportion of the birds. Lots of them were found like this. Starvation. The next most common cause of death was predation. Great horned owl being the instrument of demise for most of the predation that we were able to document. I don't think we're very surprised at those sources of mortality. If you had to guess what would kill a inexperienced young animal, I think all of us would have suggested that probably they're either not going to be adept at making a living and they're going to starve to death or they're going to bumble into somebody that's bigger and meaner than they are and end up in somebody's belly. And that's exactly what happened. Here's the, when they died and what happened to them over here. And again, avian predation and starvation are the important causes of death. And most of it occurred before the first of January. The head of the barred owl here is running off the screen a little bit. Perhaps you can lower it a little bit, just to get a get a shot of the head here. This is the critter you've got here. It's another strix owl, strix variant. A spotted owl is Strix occidentalis. Up until about 1960, the western edge of the distribution of the barred owl was in Western Montana. It started to move shortly after that. For comparison here, this is the spotted, the very spotted breast as opposed to the streaked breast. A beak that is fairly dark in color in comparison to the barred owl. Barred owl's got a kind of a bright yellow beak, very streaked breast. Both of them have dark eyes. That's it though. Stay away from that one though. The barred owl moved across Southern British Columbia or across British Columbia and arrived in the Vancouver, BC area by about 1970. By 1970, between 1970 and '79, it spread south along the Cascades and also south here in Eastern Washington and Oregon. A really remarkably fast range expansion. Not man assisted, but we suspect that it was what we were doing to the habitat. Something had to change to prompt this range expansion that occurred. By 1985 the barred owl had moved way down into Northern California. Really moving, moving fast. Here's about the distribution of the barred owl at the current time in Western US. Got another slide that kind of overlaps barred owl sightings within the range of the northern spotted owl. And it's getting pretty close to being distributed throughout. The barred owl tends to be, well, not tends to be, is a little bit larger than the spotted owl. It is not as specific in its habitat predilections. It'll occupy a broader range of habitats. It has a more catholic prey selection. It takes a little bit of most everything. It's considerably more diurnal than is the spotted owl. And as a result, you're adding up to something that's just a little bit better competitor than we'd judge the spotted owl to be. In fact, when you have encounters between the two species that folks have been able to observe, and if you were to score those encounters, almost invariably it's going to be scored with the barred owl as being the winner in an encounter. Kind of another insult coming in on top of the spotted owl. This past year we've documented four cases of interbreeding between the spotted owl and the barred owl. People get very concerned when that's mentioned. And I think it is cause for concern, but not for alarm. I would have expected that the chance for hybridization should have been greatest early on in the process. 20 years ago when these species first came into contact should have been when the barred owls were in the shortest supply and they should have been most want to interbreed with spotted owls. Now they're fairly well distributed through the range and I would think that there ought to be less chance for that occurring. However, this year is the first year that we've documented it, and there's four instances of hybridization. We're just going to have to wait and see how that pans out. We'll show you a couple other photographs of some spotted owl habitat. This is not the northern spotted owl. This is the Mexican spotted owl in Arizona. There the canyon walls, the vertical structure provided by canyons seems to replace, at least in part, the depth of the canopy and the structure that's provided by the old trees in the Northwest. Those caves that you saw in the previous picture. Here's somebody standing in the bottom of it. That provides pretty good thermal cover for the animal. There's also bats in there, and spotted owls there will be very happy to eat a bat. Thank you. Again, we're coming back to the redwood area near Arcata, California. These little patches of trees, redwoods, and mixtures of hardwoods, and some Doug firs thrown in there were supporting spotted owls. How well they were doing? Remember, we don't know. But they were there. I had an opportunity to look at some spotted owl habitat in the state of Chihuahua, Mexico this summer. This is taken in the far southwestern corner of the state of Chihuahua, probably about 150 miles southwest of the city of Chihuahua. Interestingly, the tree species that were present were remarkably similar to those in the Northwest. You had Ponderosa pine, some other pines that I was not familiar with. Oaks. That's a component in the Northwest. We had Douglas fir. We had true fir. We had madrones. Here's a dandy big old madrone. How old do you suppose that might be? We had, of all things, red alder present that far south. I was kind of amazed at the very similar array of tree species that were present at that extreme southern part of the range of the animal. Guess what's happening in Mexico. The trucks aren't as shiny and the logs aren't quite as big, but forests are being harvested. And I suspect that the animal faces similar sorts of problems in Mexico in the long run. Although at the current time, I couldn't say that any of us were alarmed at the rate of harvest that we were seeing and how it was impacting owl habitat. There was much more selective harvest than a clear cut sort of approach to things. We're revisiting an old forest in Oregon just to refresh you with what the real stuff looks like. This is where the concern for the critter centers at the present time. Big tall trees. Really big ones. The owl isn't the only critter that's out there in the forest. And I think we all recognize that the owl has been used as a surrogate, as a front animal, front person for the larger issue of old growth forests in the Northwest. This is a list from some years ago of species that were suspected to find their optimum habitat in old forests. I think it basically holds. The pileated woodpecker certainly finds fine habitat there, but it certainly is not a old growth obligate sort of species. Perhaps the northern spotted owl and the bald eagle, and bald eagle using old trees as a nest site are the two that come closest to obligate status. There is also one other, and that's the marbled murrelet, which this is not, this is a pileated. Bald Eagles. There's the marbled murrelet. That little robin sized alcid that nests in the top of big old growth trees, sometimes as far as 35 miles inland. The chick that's produced there, number one, it's got to stick it out on a pretty narrow branch way up in a tree. The adults are flying in from the ocean, perhaps as far as 35 miles to feed them with a fish. The first flight that youngster has got to make is 35 miles to the ocean. If it doesn't make it, it's dead. It doesn't seem like a real swift life history strategy to go out on, but that's what it is. Some different sorts of critters in these woods. There is the actual nest site of a marbled murrelet. There are 23 tree nest sites of the marbled murrelet known worldwide. We got about 15 of them this year. It's been a real uphill struggle to try and get our biological hands on this critter. We're just beginning to learn how to do it. Back to the spotted owl. We're going to shift gears here now and talk about some of the politics. If you let this stuff get real serious, you can get pretty serious about it. And I think all of us that have been involved try and keep some level of a sense of humor, even when what we see happening around us is not the way we feel it should be or perhaps the way the law suggests that it should be. I don't know if you can read this, but obviously this is some bureaucrat sitting in his big desk and he's got his array of specialists here. And it's, \"Try again, boys. This has visibility and credibility, but it still lacks deniability.\" And that unfortunately was too often the case in the way the agencies have handled the spotted owl issue. It's been less than a forthright handling of the issue. Let me go back and we're going to hold here just on a pretty picture of a spotted owl. And I need to review with you just a little bit some of the history of the politics of this situation, if you will, or the background, legislative background of the situation. 1973 is an important date. Endangered Species Act. Very, very powerful piece of legislation. And it's the one that has caused the owl to get front page news. The owl is being used because it is a candidate for endangered status, or is listed now as threatened. And that allows us to manage habitat for it. Also in 1973, because of the passage of the Endangered Species Act, state wildlife agencies didn't uniformly respond positively to that piece of legislation. Very often state agencies are very jealous of their prerogatives to manage their wildlife and they don't want the feds butting in. Such was the case in Oregon. John McKean was the director of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife at the time, and he said, \"Hey, we don't want the feds butting in and taking over management of our wildlife. And we're going to form an endangered species task force and that group is going to do their level best to prevent any other animals from getting on that list.\" I'm not sure I agree with all of his objectives, but certainly the one to try and prevent animals from joining the list of threatened and endangered species was a laudable one. The spotted owl was selected as the first candidate to try and prevent from becoming listed. That was in 1973. And we've been working to try and prevent that listing from then until now. And I guess as of last year, it can you said that we failed because it got listed. In 1976 the National Forest Management Act was passed. It's also an important piece of federal legislation from the standpoint, it did two things. It gave the forest service specific direction. Don't create any more endangered species, and you must keep all your native wildlife well distributed on your forests. And that well distributed part of it is in addition to the Endangered Species Act. The Endangered Species Act is silent on the point of distribution of animals, and the National Forest Management Act or the regulations pursuant thereto are specific on that point. By 1977 the initial Oregon spotted owl management plan had been devised. It provided to attempt to maintain some 400 pairs of spotted owls, distributed throughout the range of the species in Oregon. We suggested that 300 acres be maintained around the activity centers of each of these owls. We didn't have any radio telemetry data at the time. Nobody could imagine that a little brown bird about so high could possibly require more than about 300 acres of those big old trees. Well, guess what? We were wrong. Not the first time, and I suspect it won't be the last time. By 1981, we had some of Eric Forsman's initial radio telemetry data. And that indicated that the minimum amount of old growth forest that we had detected to that point within the home range of a pair of spotted owls was a thousand acres. That was the minimum amount that had been detected. The mean was something on the order of 2500 acres. The new plan called for the minimum. A thousand acres. I think it's important to recognize that through this whole period, and up until last year or year before last, all the direction from the agencies had been to provide the minimum amount of habitat required to support the minimum number of birds that would keep it off an endangered species list. And we're dealing with this minimum basis. By 1987 the Fish and Wildlife Service was petitioned by an outfit called Green World. Not Greenpeace, but Green World, to list the northern spotted owl as threatened. In December of 1987 the Fish and Wildlife Service completed a status review and judged that listing of the owl was not warranted. That was appealed by the Seattle Audubon Society. And I think they were joined by several other environmental groups. It was reviewed by the federal district court in Seattle. The judge there found that the Fish and Wildlife Services decision was arbitrary and capricious. He wrote a really tough letter to the Fish and Wildlife Service, essentially taking them to the woodshed and giving them a good dressing down and say, \"Hey, go back and read the report your biologists turned in and you tell me, well, after reading that report, you come to the conclusion that listing is not warranted.\" Another status review team was formed, another review was accomplished. This gets back to the credibility deniability part of things. That group brought in a finding, and this time the Fish and Wildlife Service agreed that listing as threatened was warranted. That was 1989. About this time, the environmental community began laying bunches of injunctions on timber sales. And they essentially brought the harvest of timber to a virtual standstill through interaction with court processes in the Northwest. In 1989 the Congress made a last attempt to put a fix on things in what was known as section 318, or the Hatfield-Adams amendment to the Interior and related agencies' appropriations bill. That amendment reduced the timber sale volume by about 10%. It increased the number of protected owl pairs by about 10% and barred appeals of sales for sales that were created under the aegis of this section 318 for that particular year. That's the last time that there's been intervention by Congress in trying to work with the old growth issue in the Northwest. That was 1989. Obviously things were not going well. And the agency directors recognized this, and in the fall of 1989 they attempted another maneuver. Well, before we get into that other maneuver, here is the Fish and Wildlife status review, the final one that was accomplished in 1990. We've got to show this someplace. This is on the basis of this, the Fish and Wildlife Service made a final decision in June of 1990, listed the animal as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. Perhaps the most telling piece of information I think is contained in that status review is this graph. Pacific Northwest region of the US Forest Service. Not all the lands in the Northwest, but the Pacific Northwest region in spotted owl habitat. Acres in millions. That's acres of old growth forest. This is old growth forest that is in a non-reserved status. Those were the acres that were free and available for timber harvest. So it does not include the wilderness acres of old growth forest. It does not include those that were withdrawn because the slopes were too steep or that were drawn for pine marten protection, pileated woodpecker protection, those sorts of withdrawals. It's what was available for harvest. What's happened to that? Well, it's been declining, folks. And it's been declining at virtually a precipitous rate. And it doesn't take a whole lot to project that, hey, if we keep on going like we're going, we're going to be out in a very short time. And that I think is a pretty persuasive piece of evidence. These were the agencies that formed together in 1989 and asked a group of six scientists to address this. Charge was to develop a scientifically credible conservation strategy for the northern spotted owl. There were six of us involved. In addition there were another 11 folks that joined us from, the six of us were all federal wildlife biologists. The other 11 that joined with us were represented the states of Oregon and Washington, California. They represented some conservation organizations. In this case, the Wilderness Society. They represented the timber industry. They represented the park service. So that there was a wide variety of individuals that joined in this effort. Six of us, however, had to sign the document. This is what was produced. Some of you have seen it. The artwork is the same one that's used on the cover for tonight's talk. We'll try a little bit more humor here. How do you tell a spotted owl biologist? This is the group on the ISC committee. Pretty simple. They all got their hands in their pockets. Okay? Our leader is not in the photograph. You need to know a little bit about the leadership on this effort. Dr. Jack Ward Thomas, a forest service research biologist at La Grande, Oregon was the team chairman. Jack did, I believe, a truly outstanding job, not only in holding 17 diverse individuals together for six months and driving a product out of us. He also was exceedingly instrumental in making effective presentations to Congress and all the organizations affected by spotted owls. So we have to have a picture of Jack. Jack doesn't know, it was vociferously proclaimed that he doesn't know or didn't know a lot about spotted owls when he got into this. So obviously when you're just learning to be a spotted owl biologist, you're just attempting to get your hands in your pockets. Anyway, I need the next set of slides. I think all of us on that committee and those that appreciate the effort that went into that report owe Jack. He really provided a strong leadership role. The plan that was presented involved, or it was based on five basic concepts. These are recognized wildly, widely, not wildly, in the field of conservation biology. And they're not exactly rocket science sort of concepts. They're pretty straightforward, and I suspect all of us in this room could have thought them up all by ourselves if we just thought about it for awhile. Pretty obvious that if you have and maintain an animal well distributed, it's a whole lot better off than if you chunk it up in little pieces and keep it separated. Large habitat blocks with many pairs of animals are obviously going to be better than small blocks with few pairs. Habitat blocks close together are better than those that are farther apart. This is pretty simplistic sort of stuff. Less fragmented habitat, that is, more contiguous, is better than more fragmented. Finally, habitat blocks that are well connected are better than blocks that are not. There are all kinds of variations on a theme and it's the connectedness and the size. Big is better in most cases here. This is an example of a, again, of one of the new perspectives in forestry treatments of a landscape or of a cut unit. And I suspect that this will provide a very considerably better habitat for almost all wildlife in about 60 or 70 years. It's not a instant solution to the problem now, certainly. We'll let you kind of rest your eyes on that and I'll try and describe what we tried to accomplish in this interagency scientific committee report. The first thing that we did was to establish a set of habitat conservation areas. They were to be sufficient in size to each accommodate ideally about 20 pairs of owls. There was to be no extraction of timber for any commercial reason from within those areas. The areas that are not old forest are to be allowed to proceed through succession and become older, eventually growing into old growth forest. The HCAs are based only on federal land and are distributed throughout the range of the northern spotted owl at about a 12 mile spacing. The 20 mile, excuse me, the 20 pair estimate was based on empirical data on the persistence of island populations of similar birds and on the results of modeling of spotted owl populations. We expect that on the order of 17 of those 20 pairs would be present at any one time in an HCA. We make it big enough for 20, but we really expect that at any one time probably only about 17 would be there. The HCAs in Washington, Oregon, and California are sufficient to accommodate about 2200 pairs of spotted owls. Currently we estimate the mapped HCAs currently support about 1750 pairs. That's what we estimate are in those areas now. They will support more pairs when the cut-over areas within them grow up. That targeted number of pairs, 2200, represents a 40 to 60% reduction in the current numbers of spotted owls. There's nothing particularly special about the landscapes currently within those HCAs except that they were designed to capture existing reserved areas as much as possible. We tried to center them or base them on wilderness areas that had suitable spotted owl habitat so that we took advantage of existing reserved areas. The location of the HCAs was driven mostly by the spacing criteria. Remember that slide on dispersal distances of young owls? We selected a distance that 66% or two thirds of the young owls seemed capable of making. And that was 12 miles. That's what drove the spacing between those HCAs. We could find no convincing evidence that dispersal corridors, that's another real buzzword in ecological literature and thought at the present time, we could find no evidence that dispersal corridors would be effective for spotted owls. Therefore, we devised a minimum set of management criteria for the intervening federal lands between the HCAs. Again, just federal lands. The intent was to provide sufficient habitat quality on these intervening lands so that the dispersing juveniles had a reasonable chance of surviving as they moved from their natal site and hopefully encounter another set of suitable habitats. We do not count on these intervening lands to provide a persistent population of owls. This prescription that resulted has come to be known as a 50-11-40 rule. I think I can explain. On each quarter township of land, that's an area of three miles by three miles in size, is to be managed by the land managing agency involved so that 50% of that area, three miles by three miles, is in trees that are larger than 11 inches DBH and with a greater than 40% canopy closure. So you're saying that we want trees that big around with a reasonable level of canopy closure on at least half the lands in each quarter township. That's a condition that is easily achieved at the half point of about a 60 to 80 year rotation in the Douglas fir zone. So if the forest service is managing on a 60 day 80 year rotation, they should be able to easily achieve that prescription in that timeframe. There are 7.7 million acres included in these HCAs. 5.8 million of those are outside of wilderness or parks. And of that 5.8 million acres, 20 to 30% are not in the timber base. So that about 4 million acres of these blue areas here are coming out of the timber base.\r\n\r\n- What is the timber base totaling?\r\n\r\n- I better defer from answering on that. I'm afraid I'd give you the wrong number here. It's going to be, let's see, probably on the order of about 20 million acres, I would judge. Some place in that vicinity. I think what we have outlined here in these HCAs is about a 5.8 million. And there's probably at least four times as much outside those areas within ownership of the federal agencies. The purple areas are HCAs in the state of Oregon. You can see how they're spaced out on a pretty regular basis. Those that are adjacent to wilderness areas attempt to take advantage of those wilderness areas in the process. Oregon has perhaps the most uniform distribution of forests of the three states involved. And the pattern here is the most ideal. This is closest to what we would have liked to see the pattern develop as. State of Washington isn't quite as pretty. You hit some problems up there. The Olympic Peninsula, for instance, has got Puget Sound and the Seattle metropolitan area and environs separating any owls here from owls in the Cascades. It's pretty hard to get them across there. There's a couple proposed HCAs here that are based on state lands. And we don't know if the states will wish to participate in this or not. Our plan was to have something that would be sufficient using, excuse me, only federal lands. California, again, presents some differences. As you get towards the extremes of the range of the animal, it's more difficult to create these 20 pair HCAs and we've got to settle for much smaller ones. This is not ideal, but it's the best that we could accomplish. This plan was presented to Congress. Forest Service kind of adopted it as an interim measure until they have a chance to work through a NEPA approved process to adopt a permanent spotted owl management plan. I think they said that they will manage not inconsistently with this plan. There's some question as to just how that might be interpreted. The BLM has said they will stay out of the HCAs, but they're not going to respect the 50-11-40 rule. That if they did that, that would cause them to have to cease harvest. They're very far along in their timber harvest program. And we agree that if they followed the 50-11-40 rule, they would essentially be shut down in those intervening lands. A lot of noise about this. I guess you can read part of the noise by what you see in the papers. This was about the time the article hit Time Magazine. It's front page news regularly in The Oregonian, the other major newspapers in the area. In May of this year four folks, Jack Ward Thomas, John Gordon, who used to be on the forestry faculty here, Jerry Franklin, the respected Forest Service ecologist, and Norm Johnson, an economist with the Oregon State University, were asked by Congress to devise a plan that would accommodate not only spotted owls, but also would accommodate some of the other values associated with old growth forest. This was the first time Congress is intervening and stepping out and getting beyond just the owl issue. Here's what, these four gentlemen assembled about 150 folks to help them do some mapping. And they came up with a series of alternatives that step up in their levels of protection for the various values, starting with a high timber option and proceeding down and in each step adding more protection. The impact on the allowable sale quantity of timber is shown here. The estimated job loss here, and the probability of sustaining these functions is indicated. VL is very low. Medium and high are the other ones. You can interpret for yourself. Boy, I'm having trouble getting that. Anyway, the high timber option is essentially maintaining harvest at the sort of rate that was being experienced in the 1980 to '89 period. When you invoke the currently in place forest management plans that are approved by the Forest Service, if you didn't do anything but just put in place what's currently there, this is what you would have. The sale quantity would drop to three billion board feet. You would lose 20 to 26,000 jobs in the process. That in fact has already occurred or is in the process of occurring. If to those forest plans you add the ISC plan that I've just been describing, that then takes those forest plans, and if you will, makes them sufficient for owls, you increase the job loss to 35 to 40,000 souls. The allowable sale quantity drops again. Here's where you start to see some of the other factors kick in. When you save enough for owl forest plans, et cetera, and then save the best examples of old growth forest such that you have at least a moderate chance of retaining a functional old growth system and high chance of retaining owls and many of these other values, you drop the sale quantity that's available, increase the job losses. If you add fish habitat, you boost it again. If you add more old growth, you boost it once again. This information has been presented to Congress. They're in the process of mulling over that. There are several bills in front of Congress ranging from essentially those that would espouse something at least as timber intensive as their forest plans, probably hoping that a little bit more might be harvested, to some that would probably be down in this sort of range at least. Where it's going to shake out, kind of it depends. We're at another important point, I think, in that the director of the Bureau of Land Management, Mr. Cy Jamison asked his boss, Secretary Lujan, secretary of the interior, to convene the God Squad on this issue. Some 50 of 150 sales proposed by the Bureau of Land Management were found by the US Fish and Wildlife Service to jeopardize the owl. It's a formal call that says, hey, you cut those and you are seriously impacting the continued ability of this animal to persist. Mr. Jamison is simply saying, hey, my agency can't withstand a timber cutback of that magnitude and maintain our role as it has traditionally been. I want the God Squad in and try and factor economics into this. Mr. Lujan has, I believe, 20 days to respond. If the God Squad is invoked, it's a fairly lengthy process. And it could go on for on the order of 18 months before a decision might be reached. I believe that instead what we're about to see is Congress step in in some pretty effective fashion or to do something to attempt to resolve this by probably drawing some lines on some maps, setting up some interim management areas for old growth and other values, to call for some additional research and attempt to also in the process set some minimum level of timber harvest so that some semblance of life as used to be normal can continue in the Northwest. It's kind of just a wild guess as to where we may go from here. And perhaps the owl knows, perhaps he doesn't. I guess in summary, I was reviewing Dr. Arrington's book on predation and life. And I think one phrase, one idea caught me and stuck with me, and I thought it was very, very cogent to this point. And I'd leave you with that. \"Whether predator or prey, animals cannot be expected to live where they do not belong.\" And I think that summarizes a lot of the problems that people perceive with the spotted owl. \"Whether predator or prey, animals cannot be expected to live where they do not belong.\" I think the owl is where it is because it's the owl, and we're going to have to either manage to provide it with the sort of habitat that it needs or we're going to have to face the probability that we'll lose it. 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