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Just this one. Okay. Good evening everyone and thank you for coming this evening. My name's Mike Bluets and I'm president of Gay Lesbian Student Outreach. And I'd like to thank you for coming this evening and welcome you to Gain Lesbian Awareness Days. I hope you've had a chance to attend a few of our other events this week and invite you to attend our final event tomorrow evening, which is gonna be a panel discussion called going up gay facts and fiction. And that's gonna be on Carver room one at eight o'clock and that's in cooperation with the YWCA. Following this evening's lecture, there's gonna be a reception at Sloss House.\r\n\r\n- For those of us who .\r\n\r\n- Carver is the Business Building. Let me get my directions straight here. Business building that is North of the Music Building. That's a lot of help.\r\n\r\n- North of Lake LaVerne.\r\n\r\n- North of Lake LaVerne. Yeah. And room one will be in the basement. And as I said, following the lecture this evening, there will be a reception at Sloss House. Now I have the great honor of introducing the Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force which is the largest and the oldest civil rights advocacy organization of this kind in the United States. And I'd like to introduce you, Mr. Jeff Levy.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I'm really glad to be here finally. There's an old joke in Washington about the Senator who became so dependent on his speech writer, that he never bothered to read the speeches before he delivered them. And he didn't even think much about them. And so he opened the speech one day and he started reading and talked all about how he was gonna introduce this great plan to solve the world's economic problems and restore world peace. And then he turned the page and it was handwritten from a speech writer saying, \"I quit you're on your own.\" Ronald Reagan is sort of in a similar position right now. It seems that the big script writer in the sky has abandoned him, or at least left him with some pretty awful lines, fully aware, therefore making broad claims the danger of making broad claims. What I'd like to do tonight is review for you the state of the Gay and Lesbian Movement and give you an idea of what our current agenda is, what the impact of last summer Supreme Court decision has been. And there'll be nicer to be able to talk about today Supreme Court decision, which was far more favorable, and more importantly, how the politics of AIDS has transformed this movement. And finally, I'll offer a brief comment on how I think the gay, lesbian agenda affects the goals and opportunities for all Americans gay and non-gay. The gay and lesbian community is one that all too often operates under a siege mentality. Woody Allen often says that just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you. Certainly gays and lesbians in modern America have enough to point to as proof of that, there've been generations of oppression and rejection by society, by our families, by religion and government. We run risks every day. We live our lives openly as we are rather than society as society would have us live. In all but Wisconsin and the District of Columbia and the handful of cities around the country, anti-gay discrimination is sanctioned by the law. We can lose our jobs, our homes, custody of our kids, and be denied services. And it's legal. We have no recourse. We risk violence simply by being who we are. About four years ago, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Forces anti-gay and lesbian violence project tried to document the physical risk involved with being gay. What we found was that 90% of the people we surveyed had been victimized in one way or another because of their sexual orientation, that one out of five gay men, and one out of 10 lesbians had been physically attacked because they were gay. Sometimes that attack in victimization came from our own families, which makes it even more tragic I think. We face continued criminalization. Recently sanctioned by the Supreme Court. That criminalization says that our expressions of love for one another are illegal in half the States in the District of Columbia. And now we face and the handling of that crisis by a government that is neglected our health needs until the health of non-gays was also seen as in jeopardy. And we still face a political climate where there's always the danger of a backlash or there's some people who would rather blame the victims of this disease rather than a virus. With all these negatives, with so many crisis confronting us, we still emerged from each one stronger. How can that be? Because we have responded by coming together by realizing that being out and being organized while carrying risks is still better than running and hiding in the closet. I'm a child of the Holocaust. My parents are both German-Jews and they escaped from Nazi Germany. The lesson they learned from that experience, was there was nothing gained from trying to pass, from trying to appease your oppressor, that so many German Jews who thought they were good Germans first and Jews second, and therefore would be spared by the Nazis learned that for those who are filled with hate, does the object of that hatred that is seen and nothing more. What I was taught as a child was the need for constant vigilance against depression. And that hiding was the one identity only makes the enforcement of that oppression so much easier. This is certainly what motivates me in my response to anti-gay discrimination. And I think it is the motivating force behind the continuing organizing and growth of the gay and lesbian community despite the risks of being openly gay in modern American society. I want to focus on two issues tonight. Briefly on the Supreme Court's decision in the Hardwick sodomy case and how that's affected the politics of the gay community. And then more depth I wanted to talk about the politics of AIDS. Both are joined, unfortunately by the common fear, common theme of homophobia, irrational fear of gays, and even deeper problem in American society, which I like to call sex phobia. The June, 1986 decision of the Supreme Court in Bowers versus Hardwick was certainly a major setback for the gay and lesbian community. For those of you who might not be familiar with the case, let me review the facts. Michael Hardwick had made the terrible mistake in Georgia of not paying a traffic fine and not appearing in court to answer for that fine. And so a warrant was put out for his arrest or for him to be served with a summons actually. Police officer who didn't particularly like Hardwick or particularly like gay people came to his house one night to deliver the summons and his roommate let the officer in not knowing that Hardwick was entertaining someone in his bedroom and pointed the way to the bedroom and the police officer walked into Hardwick's bedroom, found him engaging in the act of sodomy and charged him with violation of Georgia Sodomy Law. And one would think that this would be a perfect set of facts with which to defend the right to privacy of gays and lesbians. He was a man engaging in a sexual activity between two consenting adults in the privacy of his home, wrong. And one of the most mean-spirited decisions the court has ever rendered was declared that gays and lesbians simply don't have the same constitutional right to privacy as other Americans. It was declared that we are indeed second-class citizens. while this was certainly a disheartening conclusion, from an organizer standpoint, we may have to reach the conclusion that Justice White in writing that decision could indeed turn out to be the Anita Bryant of the 1980s. Just as Anita Bryant's anti-gay campaigns in the 70s served to mobilize the anger of the gay community. So the Hardwick decision has brought more people into the movement than ever before. And we who are leading the movement had to realize that there would be no quick fixes. We couldn't depend on the federal courts to, with one sweeping decision and generations of prejudice. Our response has been to organize. At the Task Force, that's meant creating the privacy project, which is working with state and local organizations around the country to repeal the Sodomy Laws state by state, even where we don't succeed in getting those laws overturned, even if it takes years to do so. We'll still be building political strength within the gay community, by forming coalitions with other constituencies who in the light of the Hardwick decision, finally understand that we haven't just been paranoid nor annoyed all these years. And who realized that if the right to privacy can be denied to one class of people, it can also be taken away from others. So in the longterm that is often hard to see when you're in the middle of a difficult struggle. The Supreme Court decision may turn out to be a blessing, a blessing we might've done without, but a blessing nonetheless. As an aside, given that this has happened today, we should also never give up completely on any group of people, just as Surgeon General Koop has certainly come to surprise a lot of us in his attitudes about AIDS and towards gays. So the Supreme Court today, I think surprised us a good deal in a seven to two decision. And they came out and said that people who have a contagious disease are indeed protected by federal handicap provision anti-discrimination in a sense overturning the Justice Department's position. This was in particular as tuberculosis case, but everyone is concluding that it really is a decision affecting the rights of people with AIDS and the Justice Department ruling of last June that was just so vindictive. And so clearly wrong is more than likely to die there too. With the exceptions of Justice Rehnquist and Justice Scalia, I think we can be pleasantly surprised that we found some new friends along the way. Politically of course, AIDS has also had a tremendous impact on the gay community. Indeed, it has totally transformed the way the gay and lesbian community looks at the government. The entire premise of our movement, even over the sodomy issue, just discussed has been to get the government out of our lives. This has been dramatically altered by AIDS. We've been asking the government now to step in, to help save our lives. And as the government continues to neglect its responsibility for overall education and prevention on AIDS, we are fighting for it to save both heterosexual and homosexual lives. Gay and lesbian community has gone from longterm lobbying and education over civil rights issues to being thrown headfirst into the rather turbulent waters of day to day negotiating over budgets and appropriations and having to wage aggressive battles against repressive legislation. We've been forced to become organized rather rapidly, not only at the national level, but at the state and local levels as well. We've not been able to build gradually. We had to be strong, even communities where until the AIDS crisis hit, there had been little, if any organized political activity. We've had to compress a generation of political education and organizing into just a few years. There's a silver lining in all this, a very significant number of gay men have now become part of the organized gay community as a result of the AIDS crisis, countless gays, and thought that organized community institutions were not relevant to their lives. Who thought that they're very successful and protected middle-class environment somehow could protect them. They've now joined our community. Now that they've seen that they have been made vulnerable because of AIDS and because they thought that the traditional establishment of which they had taught themselves such an important and accepted part, that they saw that establishment rejecting and neglecting them simply because they are gay. Same thing as with the German Jews, they were not seen as middle-class professionals first, they were seen as gay first because that's how people perceive us. It's the challenge of the political organizations like the Task Force and like those here in aims and in Des Moines to transform that new environment, to do a true political minority consciousness, to get them to understand the basis of the system's failure, to understand the problems we face are faced by other minorities, that the problems are generic to how we handle public health in American society. And for them to finally see that gay issues go beyond job protections and being left alone to things as supposedly once seen as extreme like National Health Insurance and Social Security. I think it's fair to say the gay community's response to the AIDS crisis has been a model of how a community should react. Indeed in the truest spirit of Reaganite volunteerism, our community has formed AIDS service groups in almost every sizable city around the country. We have been there to help and care for our own and for others when everyone else, the government, the traditional health establishment, even often our families have abandoned us. We've developed the models for prevention and care, and we have to a certain extent save the public health establishment from its own failure because we have responded so effectively. Their day of reckoning for neglecting this problem has been delayed. Now, as we must deal with the spread of this disease beyond the gay community, that day of reckoning for the public health establishment has come. And if the rest of society is to be saved and suffering the gay community has experienced, then it will get over at sex phobia and get down to the business of preventing and caring for those at risk to AIDS. This will require a reversal of the pattern to date. Is the response of the Federal Government and that of the State and local governments throughout most of this country, that response has been a model of the failure of the American political and public health system to respond to the needs of a significant minority group. The federal government's response has been a consistent game of catch up with the disease and with the resources needed to fight it. We've made considerable progress in recent years, stemming the tide of budget cutters to get increased funding for AIDS, but usually with no help from the Reagan administration. This administration has only reluctantly spent the money, its own scientists and public health officials have said as needed to do the job and it has done so only when forced into it by Congress. There was this willful homophobia that has prompted such a minimalist response. Well, certainly the Reagan and his Justice Department is being willfully homophobic and its comments on discrimination. The problem we initially encountered in the Public Health Service and the public health departments around the country, I think it was more one of institutional homophobia and ignorance, not necessarily hatred of gays. Well, it's just society has long wished that gays and lesbians would just disappear. And it's helped that if they close their eyes to us, just maybe we would, but that hasn't happened with AIDS. And I think that explains the delayed response. They simply weren't aware of us enough to be aware of the problems that were affecting us as a community. As lobbyists for our issues, even on a public health crisis like AIDS, whether we're talking to administration officials or to most members of Congress, the level of ignorance is so great. But before we can get to the substance of our agenda, we must first educate them about who we are, giving them a home one-on-one course, if you will. With each new official we encounter, we must hold our breath until some sign of learning and understanding is evidenced of the position of gays and lesbians in American society and how that affects our ability to relate and our dealing with the public health crisis. Northing pleases me more where after four or five of these courses, a public official is then able to pass that lesson on to his or her subordinates. We have to remind them that we're dealing with lot and the potential loss and that we don't have protections against the loss of our jobs or our homes or custody of our own kids. We have to remind the Public Health Service that, that Public Health Service that is asking us to trust them in this AIDS crisis is the very same Public Health Service that is enforcing the immigration ban on homosexuals. And that they have to understand that that kind of dissonance leads to distrust. And of course, when we're dealing with AIDS as a sexually transmitted disease, when half the States of this country still have sodomy laws, obviously people are going to be cautious and leery about coming forward and being honest with the government. At the risk of being proven wrong by some outrageous action tomorrow by the government, I think though that we can finally say that after five years of lobbying and educating the message has somehow gotten across. When the Centers for Disease Control recently floated their trial balloon in favor of mandatory HIV antibody testing. We've finally witnessed a coming together of civil liberties and public health advocates, all echoing the same sentiment. And that is a to do good public health requires a healthy respect for civil liberties. What the CDC had proposed was that there'd be mandatory antibody testing, involuntary coercive testing for all hospital admissions, anyone seeking a marriage license, anyone attending a family planning clinic, anyone attending a prenatal clinic, anyone attending a sexually transmitted disease clinic. The overwhelming consensus against that from the public health establishment was that in a crisis that requires the voluntary cooperation of people in changing their behavior. You simply can't coerce that if you do mandatory testing, people simply won't come forward. That testing is only valuable as an adjunct to counseling, and you want to get people in for the counseling first and then worry about whether or not you test later. But I think what was even most impressive about that meeting was that almost to a person, there was an endorsement of federal anti-discrimination and confidentiality protections or recognition that there was indeed something that we've known all along, discrimination against people with AIDS, discrimination against those risk groups associated with AIDS. And that therefore there had to be those kinds of protections for people to come forward. That anti-discrimination protections were indeed part of the public health solution to this problem that I think is a critical breakthrough in the way the public and the public health establishment are going to perceive this problem. We don't have those protections in place yet, and they may be difficult to achieve, but for those of us in the gay and the AIDS service communities that have been pounding home, the importance of these protections, it's a significant step in the right direction. There is of course, a certain irony in our finally having accomplished this educational task at a time when the rights we are defending as often or not are the rights of non-gays. Now that the spread of HIV infection to other groups is recognized. All too often what the gay movements fight about is indeed about extending protections and opportunities for all Americans, not just gay. And I'd like to close with that thought. With all the oppression we have faced as a minority, there have also been tremendous opportunities. We're probably the only minority that has created its identity and community out of whole cloth. We must recreate the bond of community with each generation because our sense of history and sense of belonging is not passed on to us by our parents as is the case with all other minorities. That makes even more impressive, all that we have done as a community. For that reason, I think the non-gay world has much to learn from us. When I say that, I mean much more than how heterosexuals can learn about safe sex, although they certainly can learn something about that from us as well. I'm talking about something far more fundamental. Again lesbian struggle is about freedom, not just freedom from discrimination, but also freedom to choose how we live our lives because society has rejected us has also given us the opportunity to construct our own definitions of community, of relationships, and yes, even a family and each time we spend those options for gay people, we are leaving open the door for non-gays to exercise those options as well. Thank you. I've deliberately not filled the a lot of times there would be plenty of time to ask and answer questions, which means now it's your responsibility to fill some of this time.\r\n\r\n- In some publications stories about the AIDS virus was a manufactured virus . What's your opinion there?\r\n\r\n- Oh, and there's another version that says it was CIA plot to against gays. You can't operate on that assumption or else you start going crazy I think. I mean the notion that it's the CIA plot, Donna MK has a lot of credibility given how successful they have been so many other things like... All that not withstanding. Yeah. I don't know that there's any evidence to support that. And I think part of the reason that that's attractive is the notion that I think we've come to believe that somehow modern is so powerful that we've conquered everything that's come along and nothing that mysterious could come of its own all by itself. And I think nature is giving us a very difficult lesson that we still haven't controlled it. And I think that's more comfortable like asleep. Put it this way. I sleep better at night believing that than thinking that it was either a Soviet or a CIA plot under the challenge in front of us is the same.\r\n\r\n- Is there some danger that within the gay community that they also have to find themselves in terms of their sexual preference and in the sense see themselves as being human, but isn't there a danger that within the community, they don't define themselves in there.\r\n\r\n- Certainly before the AIDS crisis. I think a lot that certainly could be said about a lot of gay men that the extent of their identity with a community or with their gayness was in a very physical sexual sense. I think AIDS has changed that dramatically in strengthening our sense of community and making people realize that the bonds run deeper. And that is perhaps not the healthiest way of perceiving ourselves. And again, in the long-term that may have a beneficial effect. And one of the things that I have found very interesting as I travel around the country is the growing interest in what I sort of call the family issues. And that's probably gonna be the next project that the Task Force creates just to work on issues like domestic partner legislation, like custody issues, adoption issues, those kinds of things that really talk about how we are recreating the family and our own context and trying to get the same validation for our relationships that are offered for heterosexual relationships. And people talk about the alleged promiscuity of gay people and why can't they have a stable relation and why can't they have stable monogamous relationships that are as stable and monogamous as those that are allegedly so on the heterosexual side of the spectrum. And you know what I like to point out to people is that we very often forget the degree to which society provides all those underpinnings for those relationships. I mean, it's in the law in terms of marriage and tax structure. And I mean, there are economic legal, social incentives for people to stay together. Those aren't offered for gay people. So I think it's more that they should be commenting on how amazing it is that there are so many stable gay relationships out there when society is spending all that energy, trying to tear us apart. And so I liked to say to very embarrassed public health people, if your real goal in the AIDS crisis is to encourage that we form stable, lasting, monogamous relationships, why then you ought to legalize gay marriage? And one can be flip about things. Sometimes that's all you can do. This is, this is a memo from, I never traveled without my Edwin Meese memos from Edwin Meese. And this is in his role as Chair of the Domestic Policy Council. And it's on the Public Health Services AIDS prevention plan, which I am told I haven't seen the original as it left the Centers for Disease Control wasn't a bad plan as it's going to be released. God knows what it's going to evolve because of the politicians keep playing with it. And this is allegedly a ruling from the president who decided, I don't know if any of you know, that the Surgeon General Koop at one point suggested to the president that the AIDS prevention program become part of the president's anti-drug campaign or the first lady's anti-drug campaign. We know who's boss in this administration. And the president said, \"no, that would be too controversial.\" Well, apparently in commenting on the PHS AIDS plan, the president, it says, \"the president has decided to adopt the following principles regarding education about AIDS. One of them is any health information developed by the Federal Government that will be used for education, should encourage responsible sexual behavior based on fidelity, commitment and maturity placing sexuality within the context of marriage. And we all know that the HIV virus is very, very sophisticated and that it will not be transmitted within the bonds. If you have a legal certificate that says that you are married, if you don't have that legal certificate and have been monogamous for however long, you may be, you still run a risk. That's one way of looking at it. When the Washington Times, which is the newspaper owned by the Moonies called me for a comment that I had just sort of lost my patience. And I was asked, \"what do you think about it?\" I said, \"well, I presume then that the attorney general is by implication endorsing gay marriages.\" it's the only conclusion I can drop. Did I answer the question? Okay.\r\n\r\n- Would you talk a little about your organization.\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- Sure. Okay. There's stuff outside. I don't know if there's enough to go around, but National Gay and Lesbian Task Force was formed in 1973. Name the word, term Task Forces in the sense sounds very impermanent. But I like to say that it demonstrates our flexibility in moving from issue to issue as events warrant. When we started, you could almost reduce what we do to a two by two tables, as an academic. So I can try to be very academic about this. On one matrix will be us and them, gay people and non gay people. And then across you would have politics and education and everything we do fits into one of those boxes. We're either educating ourselves. And in fact, that was one of the primary goals of the Task Force in 1973. There were no role models for gay people who are really visible. And so just having openly gay men and women get up and say, \"I am a gay man. I am lesbian\" was such a remarkable thing and an important thing. And we've developed, that's when a lot of our basic literature was developed, 20 questions about homosexuality that was designed not just for straight people to learn about homosexuality, but for gay people to learn about themselves and to get a positive self image. We were also trying to educate the straight world so that the image that they portrayed of us, particularly in the media was considerably more positive. Things gradually became more and more political to the point now where I think that is the major focus of our organization. But interestingly, a lot of our projects move through that entire cycle. For example, the Anti-violence Project started out with a recognition on our part, that there was this problem of anti-gay and lesbian violence. And no one was reporting about it. And no one was, I mean, when you sort of knew it instinctively. And one of the first things I was asked to do when I started working for the Task Force in Washington four years ago, is to call around to the Justice Department, naive cell that I was and suggest that perhaps they ought to do something about this problem. And the answer I got back was, \"what is anti-gay violence?\" We didn't know there was such a problem. And so we set out to documented. It's the same sort of issue that we face when we're fighting for anti-discrimination ordinances. I mean, it is the ignorance of us. It's not willful homophobia. It is that they just don't know we're out there and that therefore there is a problem. And because there's so much danger in coming forward, you don't tell it when you've just gotten beaten up because you're gay. You don't tell a cop that because what if it gets ends up in the newspaper and you lose your job. So we set out to document that and we went out and we surveyed in eight cities on a pride day for three and a half years ago. And we're able to the conclusions that I mentioned at the beginning of my speech, among a lot of other things about police response and that sort of thing. And since then, we've been working with local groups around the country to educate police departments about anti-gay violence, to educate our own community about how to protect ourselves from that kind of violent attack. And now we're making it very blatantly political asset. October there was a hearing at the House Judiciary Committee where we've laid all that documentation on the table, witnesses who had been victims of anti-gay violence, police departments that had done a good job in dealing with the problem. And now we are allowing the appropriations committees to make sure that the National Institute of Justice that initially had said to us, what problem is mandated to do a study of anti-gay and lesbian violence. And we're relatively optimistic that we'll be able to get that. That's sort of our modus operandi. And that is how we go about things. We identify a problem, we document it, we educate people about it, and we politicize it that anti-gay violence is one of our major areas. We have a media program where we not only do PR for the organization, but for the community. We set out two and a half years ago to make sure that the straight press understood who the gay community was. And that was a critical thing at the beginning, when they first discovering us on during the AIDS crisis, it would just go about anywhere. They find a homosexual and stick a microphone in front of that person's mouth. And this would be the spokesperson for the gay community. Now, granted we had an institutional interest in this as well and we set out to make ourselves a clearinghouse, not always a spokesperson, right? Nine times out of 10, you may see my mug on television a lot, but nine times out of 10, when you see stuff about our community about AIDS, they've come to us and we've sent them somewhere else. And one of the ways that we've been able to establish our legitimacy, whether it's in the lobbying the Congress, or speaking to the executive branch or speaking to the media is when they ask us something, if we're not the experts on it, we send them to the people who are. And we've become something of a clearinghouse therefore for the media and they're trying to discover that vague thing out there that's known as the gay and lesbian community. What we're hoping down the road is to be somewhat more affirmative in dealing with how the media truly understands our community and portrays our community, not just in the news, but in on the entertainment side as well, because that's a far more subtle and possibly a more effective way of educating people. After the hardest decision we created the privacy project, which is working with state and local groups, recreating the coalitions we've been able to build at the national level around the issue of privacy, recreating them at the local level for those state and local organizations that are engaging in that site. And then there's our AIDS program, which is primarily lobbying on the hill and lobbying with the administration. And again, having been there a long enough to establish a credibility that they know that they need to deal with us, the operation that we put together with gay men's health crisis in Atlanta, around this testing conference, we had every, and you have to beat them over the head one more time to teach them to start paying attention to us. And we did a press operation down there. We knew it would be a media circus. And we did a press operation down there that was 10 times better than what the Centers for Disease Control put together. And we demonstrate that we were indeed professional and that we could beat their pants off. So they will deal with us a little bit better in the future. That sounds a little bit arrogant, and maybe it is. But as I said to the current Assistant Secretary for Health, I feel like an old bureaucrat at this point. I've been there for years. I've seen four, count them, four assistant secretaries in four years. And I said to him, \"look, I'm gonna be here after you go. Because even if you finish out this term, I'm still gonna be here and Reagan will be gone and there'll be a new Assistant Secretary for Health.\" And when you have that kind of on jeopardy, what ends up happening is that there is almost a perverse. I really do think sometimes it's perverse, relationship that is established between you and the bureaucracy, 'cause you're the ones who were there forever. And AIDS has created a whole new part of the bureaucracy. And so you have people dealing with us who never dreamt in a million years, either that they'd be sitting across the table from us and be that they would be dependent on the future funding of their programs on gay men or lesbians or anything was that H word in it. I'm sure they wake up in the middle of the night thinking, how did I get into this mess? Just like I wake up in the middle of the night, wondering why I'm trusting them. But that's totally transformed how we're doing business. It's and when we get beyond, and it's the old thing to know us is to love us. And yet when I talk about every time we get up and talk to people, we give them the home a one-on-one course and every political act that the Task Force does is also an educational act. Because every time they have to confront us, they have to overcome their stereotypes. And every time I go in there looking like this, I am not what they expect deep down in their hearts. And that really and gradually the most exciting stuff to see is the people like Everett Koop or the people like Ed Brandt who was Reagan's first Assistant Secretary for Health. Brandt can give the home a one-on-one course as well, or if not better than I can now. And he went in there as a very conservative right-wing Republican, who didn't want to talk to us at all. And when you see that sort of transformation, it means you just never give up as frustrating as people may be. You can never give up because ultimately, I mean there's, and when I give my coming out spiel, there's a lot of survey data, which shows that knowing someone who's openly gay changes your attitudes much more than any other demographic factor that you may expect when you can have all the right liberal demographic credentials, it doesn't do a thing for you unless you know someone is openly gay and you can have the most right wing demographic credentials, if you will. And you know someone who's openly gay and you've dealt with that in your life and your attitudes are just so much better. And that's what we do. That insane exchange I had with Strom Thurmond when I was testifying for the Judiciary Committee last year and where every time I speak before a hostile congressional committee, I talk about the 20 million gay men and lesbians in America that are still been denied their full rights as US citizens. And this was the second time before the Senate Judiciary Committee that someone picked up on that and Thurman said to me, \"where do you get that number from?\" And I talked about the Kinsey data, and I said 10% said, well, let's scare him a little bit and talk about, we're really talking about those with homosexual experiences, post puberty, while that's 30 or 40%, we're talking about a lot of people here, Senator, and his next question was in all earnestness, he was not playing with me. He said, \"well, does your organization recommend treatment for his members so that they can be cured?\" And so we had an exchange about how that just isn't so that it doesn't work that way. And Lord knows, someone said to me, \"we were trying to figure out why Strom Thurmond started this discussion with me.\" And someone said, \"well, maybe someone in his family came out to him.\" I said, \"if you were related to Strom Thurmond would you come out to him?\" I mean, I'm all in favor of coming out, but, and I don't know what prompted it, but I also know that he went home that night. He's probably, it would probably, he's not gonna live long enough to totally change his attitude but he went home that night with very different information. And I had had a very similar exchange with Howell Heflin also on that committee, a conservative Democrat from Alabama who was absolutely flabbergasted to hear that there were that many gay people. And I know it was running through his head, Oh my God. They may even be in Alabama. And of course his closing line to me, which is usually my pitch for memberships was, \"do you have powers of attorney for all those people?\"\r\n\r\n- I wish you talk about sexual preference or sexual orientation so we don't confuse things.\r\n\r\n- I talk about sexual orientation because within each orientation we all have varying preferences. 'Cause and I agree with you because that is very confusing and yeah, and then it'd be that's right. Preference implies choice. And we all may fit in different places along the Kinsey scale. And there are probably relatively few people who are exclusively heterosexual and exclusively homosexual, but where we are within that place on the Kinsey scale is an orientation. What we do within that orientation is a choice. I feel strongly about that. There's one other thing that Task Force is doing that I would really like to tell you about. And if things like the CDC stuff would stop intervening, it will actually happen this week, but it may not be till next week now. And it's later than we had hoped. We're gonna issue this year at counter budget, which is again, designed to demonstrate to people the degree to which government affects our lives. That the very narrow agenda that our community has traditionally adopted, which has been thrown overboard by AIDS that I think can go much farther than that. We have to see the degree to which the government in a negative way is affecting our lives and how we can therefore turn the system on its head and make it work in our favor. So that we talk about domestic partner benefits and changing the social security system so that we can name our lovers as beneficiaries, just as heterosexual married couples can. So we talk about access to every type of service without that kind of discrimination against our own definition of a family unit. And a lot of the focus is on beneficiaries. A lot of it is on the amount of money that the government affirmatively spends to discriminate, whether it's in the military or whether it's in the intelligence services and that kind of thing, because I think it's and again, it is both a political tool. Obviously a lot of these things aren't going to happen, but it's certainly not overnight, but I think it's really important for us as a community to understand the degree to which the government is affecting and shaping the way we can lead our lives. And that we first have to understand that among ourselves, before we can go out and really politicize that to a broader constituency or toward the people who represent us.\r\n\r\n- Oh dear. I don't know. I think we'll the first step along the way will be domestic partner legislation, which in a sense is that any equivalent, it's not any emotionally equivalent, but it's a legal and illegal equivalent. And I think that I think one of the reasons for that is that it will not just affect gay people. It will affect a lot of heterosexuals as well. And that's again our opening wedge.\r\n\r\n- Would you explain your . Gee, I wish I could. I'm not. Our board members are elected by the members of the board is 24 people elected by the members of the organization. People serve three-year terms and there's election every year. So it's staggered, gender parody, 20% minorities from all over the country. We have not had good representation from the Midwest. We have been working real hard on improving our geographic diversity. And I would say that over the last two or three years, we've really made some progress in that regard. But that's the beginning to a certain extent, it's a reflection of the, sort of the sampling bias within our own membership. There's so many members from either coast. They tend to vote for people from either coast and we haven't yet decided to impose sort of a regional distribution. We're trying to do that just by the types of people who are placed in nomination so that the choice will be that sort of choice will be forced on in the election process. The board meets three times a year. It sets the general goals of the organization. They hire and fire people like me and they control the general direction of the organization.\r\n\r\n- Well, two things. One is I'm not a total free spender, but I don't think when you get to public health issues that we need to be choosing between diseases. And I think that's the dichotomy that this administration has really tried to do to set up for us early on in the process when they the Congress kept saying, \"we need more money for AIDS is said, fine.\" We'll reprogram money from childhood immunization. Yeah. You try to go before a congressional subcommittee and say, \"let's not vaccinate any more kids because we've got this AIDS crisis on our hands.\" And unfortunately Congress has continually rejected that. we've been lucky in the sense that there have always been scientists and people within the Public Health Service who have been able to provide the documentation for us that we need to be spending more money. 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Interviewee:\u003c/strong\u003e Things that could be done","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=4.222,6.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that aren't being 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point,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=37.22,41.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because there are people dying","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=41.12,42.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and those are straight people primarily","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=42.97,45.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who are gonna die as a result","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=45.08,46.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because our community is doing the education on its 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us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=1770.279,1773.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from other people who discriminate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=1773.24,1775.757"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275/transcript/31428/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I appreciate 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The tremendous problem we have at this point, is that the system is stymied by the politics. I mean, the CDC has $75 million to spend in the fiscal year that started in October '86. And they've spent maybe two or $3 million of it on education programs because the prevention plan has been held up in the bureaucracy by the political people who were trying to get their moral stamp of approval on it. That is almost a form of criminal negligence at this point, because there are people dying and those are straight people primarily who are gonna die as a result because our community is doing the education on its own. You know we're putting our own, obviously, if we had more resources, we could reach more people. But we've raised the money within our own community to do that. There isn't a quote heterosexual community out there that is organizing around AIDS to do prevention work and to raise money and to provide services. So those are so there's certainly a whole lot more that can be done. There have been enough, I mean, you know, a lot of these before I started doing this working on all these stories about plain brown envelopes, arriving in the mail and that sort of thing, it seemed sort of like stuff out of storybooks but that's also what happens when you develop relationships with people over time within the bureaucracy and they do pass things on to you. And they do arrive in plain brown envelopes with the government Frank in plain brown envelopes. Nonetheless, that show the internal memoranda that asks for more money and with the cover memo from the secretary saying, we can't afford to spend it. And you just dropped them over to the Congress and Congress and at least so far on this issue and its wisdom has chosen to force the administration to spend more money. And this upcoming for fiscal year 88, which is the upcoming year for the president, just submitted his budget is the first time in the five years that the government has been spending money on AIDS. This would be the sixth that the government, the administration asked for more money than was being spent in the previous fiscal year. In other words, every other fiscal year for the coming upcoming fiscal year, they asked for less money than they had been spending. That's a strange way to handle an epidemic. And in terms of you know, competing with other diseases, what we are going to learn from AIDS about the immune system and about treating diseases of all kinds is going to be so tremendous that it really cannot be seen as taking one away from the other.\r\n\r\n- What is the attitude ?\r\n\r\n- I don't know very many houses that are still open and you know, part of our argument during for some reason, well, not for some reason there was a big firestorm about it seemed like two years ago or just over two years ago in San Francisco, in New York. And our argument was that the state should not necessarily close them down, but the States certainly had public health reasons to restrict the you know, restrict what could take place. What we were concerned about was some sort of, we were concerned about the state could regulate the physical environment but that the activity between consenting adults and not becomes sort of a surrogate for the recomposition of sodomy laws or the reinforcement of sodomy laws. And it was a very fine line to walk in the very controversial line to walk at the same time that we were saying that the state shouldn't be shutting them down. Literally we were also saying that we hope they shut down for lack of business but we also knew that for a lot of those places, it was the one vehicle to get educational material out. And I think pretty and I came out in the Midwest. So I can say this without sounding and you know, without sounding like an Eastern or about us or an East coast person about this. I think people on either coast sometimes who got caught up in the fever of this battle sometimes forget we're in very closeted communities, the social function that both houses play but they weren't just a sexual playground in the way they may be in New York or in San Francisco. And for reaching a certain class of people, you know, people who might be closeted, people who are not yet integrated into a gay community, people who are married, this could be the only vehicle for getting safe sex information out. And I don't know where that's all balanced out in the end. And I really don't have any information as to how many are shut down and how many are open and how many have truly changed their ways. But I think that was certainly an instance where more aggressive monitoring from within the community was appropriate.\r\n\r\n- Early on there were voices crime in the wilderness like Larry Kramer, are those people accepted back in again?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think Larry Kramer would probably be very unhappy if he was accepted in the community back in the sense that he would like says he would like to be. We're a very diverse community and there's a role for people using different methods. And the Larry Kramer's of the world keeps the middle of those of us that were sort of working from within the system very a little bit more honest, reminding us of something of our radical roots, if you will. And I, you know, I'm not sure that I can say much beyond that, sir.\r\n\r\n- It's been tremendous. I mean, you couldn't have had a more legitimate group of people saying to the world, this is what needs to be done. And as an example of the kind of impact that it had, Senator Pete Wilson, who is a Conservative Republican has introduced a bill that would basically perpetuate that the that panel would provide enough money for that panel to continue to oversee what the public health services is doing to make sure that the public health service indeed works towards the goals of status set out in that IOM study. It transformed overnight I think the politics of the funding that we were no longer seen as the crazies who always want more you know, the scientists, the most brilliant scientists in the country were saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n- In several different ways I think question of visibility, what I want to talk some more about the role of visibility played in the progress. They gave them visibility organizations individually.\r\n\r\n- And it sort of a circular or spiraling impact. The more visible we are, the more seriously we are taking, the more seriously we are taking, the easier it becomes to be visible. You know, I have this, it's hardly a new idea, but somehow in American society, you are not real until you've been on television. And so the very same people that I could lobby and give the very same arguments to on day one before I've been on television. And then I go back and see them on day three, but on day two, they saw me on, you know, Dan rather, or on Nightline suddenly on day three, I am more real and more legitimate. It's really, sometimes it can scare you about how things are done, but that kind of visibility is extremely important in legitimizing our organizations and making demands on site again. And then once we're on television, the decision makers start taking us more seriously. And it's also important for our community. The more visible we are. And we sometimes forget that for the vast majority of gay people in this country, the major issue is still coming out. And you know, for them seeing someone openly gay, no matter who it is, who presents a reasonable, respectable image, what finding out that there is indeed a gay organization out there that they are indeed not alone and that people can indeed survive by being out. It's a tremendous impact on them. And we really forget no matter where we are, whether it's in New York or Washington or de Moines or Birmingham, Alabama, or all the other places in between that I have been, that's still the issue for so many people. And those of us who have come to terms with that issue, some of us years and years ago, too often forget that there is just I mean, there's a tremendous diversity in our community on a lot of things. And one of the most important thing is where we are in the continuum of coming out. And we're all on that continuum of coming out. We've never always completely come out. There's always one more time to come out in one more situation and thinking that you know, you've done it. And you know, finally, I don't have to do it again. And a lot and behold, there's an instance where you sort of scratch your head and say, am I gonna turn this social situation into another political statement. And sometimes we do and sometimes we don't, sir.\r\n\r\n- Well, one of the things that the task force is gonna be doing and it's similar to what we did four years ago but we'll do what I think a little bit more systematically this time is we will be doing questionnaires for the candidates. We'll be doing briefing papers for the candidates. And we're also gonna be seeking actual one-on-one encounters with candidates to brief them on the issues. We're going to circulate those questionnaires around the country to the early primary States in caucus States to make sure that to the extent possible we're not imposing an agenda on the community but you know, I think we all agree on certain basic issues to make sure that the same, the candidates hear the same questions again and again wherever they go. And so then Michael Dukakis, for example, if he doesn't change his ways on the issue of foster care for gay kids for gay or lesbian parents, is going to hear from our community wherever he goes. Even if we don't reach them on the issue. And even if he perceives it as the harassment factor, it's something he's going to have to deal with wherever he goes, wherever any candidate goes, they're gonna have to deal with it. I think AIDS is gonna give us a tremendous entree because by a year from now, when it becomes even clear that this administration has not responded as they ought to on the prevention side. I think age is gonna become an even more important issue in the presidential campaign. And everyone from the far right to the far left is going to have to deal with it which means at some point they're gonna have to sit down and talk to us if only to find out what's happening. Even if they're not gonna agree with us, we're the best repository of information. And that will give us a level of access that I don't think we've had before, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Also the people that are here in Iowa, that they either contact the eighth education committee of the gay coalition of the wines are also central Iowa. You can get your education there in order to educate your own community.\r\n\r\n- I was going to say being in the field of education, when I moved from Missouri to Iowa was required by the department of education here to take a human relations course that was void of any mention of gay and lesbian rights of AIDS issues of women's rights cause you that as far as the curriculum .\r\n\r\n- Well, that clearly varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. And you know, one of the things that we sometimes serve as a clearing house for and I don't know about teacher trainings but I know we do have a model police trainings, for example, so that we can put people in touch with communities that are doing that kind of thing and can provide model curriculum for you then to go and take to the people who set your state's curriculum and suggest to them that they do it. That's obviously a, you know, every opportunity that we can take to educate people and raise their consciousness. You know, I think is a really important thing. I told a story at dinner to some people tonight. I think it's worth repeating about John D'emilio, who's a gay historian who teaches at the university of North Carolina in Greensboro, teaches a modern American history course. And as part of that course, he has all his students write it, coming out letter to their parents as a homework exercise. And it's an incredible consciousness raising tool for them to really begin to grapple with what it's about. And, you know, there are all sorts of ways that we can raise people's consciousness and we need to find them at every possible opportunity.\r\n\r\n- Yeah\r\n\r\n- Oh, today's ruling, the today's ruling was not on sodomy. Today's ruling was on actually a tuberculosis case as to whether section 504 the federal, I can almost sound like a lawyer here. The five section 504 the federal rehabilitation act, which basically bans discrimination based on handicap in federally funded programs or in the federal government. And the question was, does it contain a handicap can mean a number of things? And the question was, does a contagious disease constitute a handicap that would be protected? The Justice Department was saying, no, a school teacher named Arline was saying, yes it does. And the Supreme Court said indeed it does. And since the same argument was being made by the Justice Department saying that AIDS was not a handicap under the definition of a segment the definitions that were put forward in section 504 we're hopeful. And assuming that therefore there is no that kind of federal protection for AIDS as well.\r\n\r\n- Okay last June. Okay that was Lee I'm sorry. That was last June. And that was basically upholding the Georgia state law. That's that outlawed sodomy. And that was a five to four decision in which the court said, essentially that the challenge was made on the right to privacy that went to consulting consenting adults do in private is none of the state's business. And they essentially said that gay people don't have that right to privacy. The strippers sweat since you've been trying all evening.\r\n\r\n- Find out other people that may have problems with that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, yeah, right. But anyone who is familiar with how so-called voluntary contact tracing is done in sexually transmitted disease clinics knows that can be fairly coercive. Now, obviously you can't force someone's name names. This may sound like a splitting of hairs. What we favor is voluntary partner notification, as opposed to contact tracing. Voluntary partner notification is you test positive or you have AIDS and someone should sit down with you and counsel you and say hey, it's a good idea to let your partners know. And you know, we'll help you, you know, sort of work through your problems and doing it. But you're the one who should do it. Contact tracing involves the individual saying to the state, gee, I don't want to do it, but here's the list of all my partners. Why don't you give them a call now? You know, there's an irony in this. You could go to and anonymous testing site, and you can test positive and you don't ever have to worry about your confidentiality being violated because the state doesn't have your name. And the state says, we wanna trace your partners and you give a list of your partners to the state. Your partners who are not voluntary participants in this process have no kind of don't necessarily have confidentiality and you still have yours. That's a peculiar way of doing things. We would also argue that it's not the most efficient great expenditure of resources, that it is very labor intensive to do contact tracing. And when you look at the history of when contact tracing has been done, it's been done for diseases like syphilis, where there's an intervention and where there's a short incubation period. It is not done with viral diseases that have long incubation periods. And clearly you know, it's never been done for example, with herpes because there's no intervention and that's where AIDS fits in right now. There's no intervention other than education. And we should be educating everyone not just the individual contacts. A stronger argument can be made in very low incidence communities for the potential success of contact tracing. But until those anti-discrimination protections are in place. And when we talk about anti-discrimination protections, we don't just mean you can't lose your job but it should also mean, you can't lose your insurance because having insurance and this society in modern American society means, you know, access to care. And I don't think anyone would argue that someone on Medicaid has the same quality of care as someone who carries a blue cross blue shield and people shouldn't have to place all that in jeopardy. And in fact, when you start allowing the test to be used for healthcare, for health insurance you, or you allow insurance companies to ask about a test result that was done for public health purposes, you're trying to solve one public health problem, the transmission of the virus and then the process you're creating another by creating another class of uninsurable.\r\n\r\n- I would like to .\r\n\r\n- Yeah the only real, the only true protection of confidentiality is the anonymity. You can have all the laws in the world to protect the confidentiality of a medical record. And those laws can always be repealed. They're only as good as the period on which those laws are on the book books. But and there's always the potential that it will be violated sometimes not out of, you know, out of evil but it just can happen. And there are more than enough cases that I mean say California has a very strong confidentiality law as it relates to HIV testing. And that some people from San Francisco presented a laundry list of cases where either deliberately or inadvertently that confidentiality had been violated. And that's why ultimately the only real protection is anonymity. There is no public health reason for the state to have the names of people who were antibody positive Putin. If there were an intervention, one might be able to justify that but if there were an intervention and you could cure people, there wouldn't be all the stigmatization and they wouldn't be all the associated problems. Right now the only reason for collecting the data by the state is for epidemiological purposes, to know how many people are positive out there. Well, you don't need identifiers to be able to make that kind of determination. And there are ways of doing anonymous epidemiological studies to determine the prevalence of infection. So, you know, we argue fairly strongly that the real protection of confidentiality is an anonymity. And there are going be situations where the test can't be offered anonymously. And if you are at as part of a workup at a doctor's office or something like that, obviously your records can suddenly become anonymous. And that's why you also need the confidentiality and anti-discrimination protections. But as an individual who's wanting to find out his or her antibody status, for whatever reason and the advice that we give is go to an anonymous testing site. And if you feel it's something that your doctor needs to know, work it out in advance before you pass on that information to your doctor as to how he or she is going to keep that information. And lots of doctors keep double records, or just don't put it in the record and keep it in their head so that you don't get into the whole insurance problem.\r\n\r\n- What is an anonymous site? I don't know what's available in Iowa.\r\n\r\n- This issue is not being discussed in Iowa.\r\n\r\n- Okay, most of the testing sites that exist, the so-called alternative testing sites in other words, they were set up when the test was first licensed so that people wouldn't go to blood banks to find out their antibody status for fear that the test wasn't quite accurate enough in one or two very small presenters but nonetheless some might, you know, false negatives might slip through. So those were created through the counseling and the testing. Some of those alternative testing sites and someone from here will have to tell me whether you actually have any, you know, I okay. Some of them require that you give your name. Some of them do not and it is up to the individual state as to how they do it. The federal funding that comes in for those testing sites gives you the option either way. You can do it anonymously or you can do it confidentially. Some States have chosen to do them all anonymously. Some have a mixed, some have just confidentiality. And it's really important. I would argue to at least offer that option of anonymity so that you don't encounter. And you're basically eliminating all the disincentives, all the sort of social and legal disincentives from being tested. It is still an individual choice as to whether or not you think knowing your antibody status is necessary to changing your behavior and to whether psychologically you could deal with the information that you are positive, but you should be allowed. The state should be providing you the opportunity to make that decision on the merits of those issues alone, not as to whether or not you're risking your insurability or your employability or whatever.\r\n\r\n- What other problems were .\r\n\r\n- In New York there's a three month waiting period for the anonymous testing sites. And the absurdity of this sort of thing is in the middle of backlogs that are not at voluntary testing sites the government is talking about mandatory testing. Well, if you can't even meet the demand for voluntary testing, why talk about even bigger programs?\r\n\r\n- Can I pull up a healthcare state? And that whole system is totally not and they're totally frustrated .\r\n\r\n- One of the frightening things about AIDS is the degree to which the traditional medical establishment is afraid of it. And in Washington DC, which is allegedly and enlightened community and where we have a lot of AIDS cases we have in the metropolitan area, we have five or 600 cases, that's a lot of cases. And we've been talking about replicating the San Francisco model and having one of the major hospitals have an outpatient clinic and set up an AIDS ward. All the hospital presidents run into the health commissioner's office and say, we don't need that, we're doing just fine the way it is and how commissioner doesn't necessarily know better. Well, the reason they're saying that is they're so frightened of being identified as an AIDS hospital if they create an AIDS ward, that they would rather have a scattershot system that exists now and no one's getting good care. And so falls again on the community to try to find the Health Commissioner define, help him find a way to force these private hospitals to create an AIDS ward. And there is so much stigma and fear associated with AIDS, even within the medical community that they're not even responding with their best instincts, yeah, okay.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, that exists. I think, you know, one of the things that I find most disturbing with some of these personal ads where people are advertising themselves as antibody negative, well, first of all, that's as valid, it's only valid for the moment that you were negative and then valid until your next sexual encounter. And I think it would be really horrible if we as a community suddenly divided along the lines of the antibody positives and the antibodies negatives. Friend of mine came up with I think, one of the most political arguments against being tested. And that is if he were negative, would he suddenly become less aggressive in fighting some of the more repressive things that are coming down the line because it would he could fall into an us and them mentality unconsciously even if you know, he was aware that was a danger. It was an interesting argument for not being tested.\r\n\r\n- That's right, I mean the only value of testing is if is as an adjunct to counseling, perhaps and I would argue that most people don't need that. At least most gay people have not needed. The tremendous change in behavior that's occurred in the gay community has happened without tests. Now, there may be some people who may need the shock of the positive test result to get them to change their behavior. But we also know that often a lot of gay men and there are studies to prove this. And when they test negative they figure, well, I've made it this long, I guess I'm safe. And it's, and you know, when you start doing testing of heterosexuals who have absolutely no sense of their risk and they're gonna go test negative and they're gonna feel well, therefore, I don't need to change my behavior.\r\n\r\n- Attitude the positive test say.\r\n\r\n- Hey, it's too late, yeah. It can work any way that you want to interpret it, whatever level of denial you're in, you can interpret it to reach the conclusion that you want to reach. And there now, which is not saying there, aren't gonna be some people who will respond in the way they ought to, but that's why it needs to be a really individual decision. And part of the counseling process that determines what it's gonna take to get someone to change their behaviors they haven't.\r\n\r\n- First one, I don't pose this kind of lifestyle. And one thing I wonder if they're about, if I'm not like the gay rights movement, even a morality heterosexuals and what the philosophy of two consenting adults have the rights to do whatever they want to. I wonder how far were rules at a stop and responsibilities? Would you someday be willing to support legislation that allowed for a consenting adult and a child to engage? And what was it called ?\r\n\r\n- Well, if you've been listening, you've been hearing me talk about consenting adults.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- And you know, to be real honest, I don't think I'm going to convince you of anything or you may have anything. And you know, I'm not gonna judge your lifestyle though I probably have some very strong opinions about it. And so I just asked you not to judge ours. That's all, that's what America is about. That we don't judge each other's private lives and the state doesn't exist to be judging each other. The state exists to bring you protecting us from other people who discriminate.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I appreciate that. Wondering, like in the future, do you think you would support that kind of a legislature that ?\r\n\r\n- No, I mean the short answer is no and if you'd been listening to what I was saying, you would have understood that, you wouldn't have had to ask the question on that very pleasant note. Thank you for coming thank you for listening and there is a reception now in Sloss house which is I could almost find my way there, it's that way .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46871/file/120275#t=0.0,1825.128"}]}]}]}