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Is that what we're talking about?\r\n\r\n- Right? But first before we begin let me issue a few disclaimers so that we can set aside whatever distortions, my own personal experience and feelings might give to what I have to say. And in the first place, I am not an authority on the minority experience in film. I'm not an authority on film, as a matter of fact, although I've directed five feature films, I'm not a director. I wasn't a very good one when I was the director. And although there's been one or two offers to ask to have me direct other films, I say no, because film directing is a young man's game and I haven't got the extra time and energy it would require to do justice, to directing a film. And although I've acted in motion pictures beginning with No Way Out in 1949 the first film that Sidney Poitier I was in, I don't consider myself a typical film actor either. The reason I say that, is because I have never dedicated all of my energies toward creating a career as an actor in Hollywood or on film. It happened to be something that I engaged in when the opportunities were available. But for my own reasons, I never waited for Hollywood or films to define me or to offer me what was definitive and what I thought my life's career was all about. I am indeed a writer, even when I don't write, I'm a writer who doesn't write. And I got into the acting game somewhat by accident and couldn't get out yet. But I do intend to spend the rest of my life to the best of my ability devoting most of my time to writing. And though I have written screenplays, I don't particularly like the medium for writers. For me writing is writing for the stage and I'm currently engaged in trying to finish the manuscript that I started two years ago. Nonetheless, I think there are some things I can say about the minority experience that might be a moment and of general interest. My understanding is that I'm supposed to speak for about an hour and then we'll open the floor to discussion. And I certainly look forward to that because your questions will help me define what my ultimate responsibility is, as I come to address you this evening. I do take film quite seriously, film, theatrical films and also television. And before I begin to talk specifically about what I feel the minority experience to be or to have been, I'd like to tell you what I think about film in general, because in that background you will see that the minority experience is eloquent both in what it has to say or what it has to offer and in what it did not have a chance to offer. I consider film one of the most powerful tools by which power is exercised in modern day society. Hollywood, with its capacity to reach across borders and to pervade a lifestyle presumably that is the American way, and by what it presents to affect the conduct of people and countries we've never heard off. Hollywood, therefore becomes very important on the world stage. The countries of Africa gained their independence by and large in the sixties from the colonial masters who had for some 75 or more years, been the controllers of their destiny. We saw in Ghana and Nigeria and Kenya and various other places in the Western these. The flags of the colonial masters Lord, the flags of independent countries who reclaimed their heritage raised to the Zenith, of the flagpole. Now apart of what the responsibilities of leadership in the emerging countries were, was to establish some way to use the resources of the countries to help resolve the problems that the countries faced. Kwame Nkrumah felt that what Africa needed was a United States of Africa. By which he meant a common market program, somewhat like the one that's coming into being in Europe in 1992. And he felt this to be the case because he knew that world power was being wielded by the United States on the one hand, which was a large inclusive country with an inbuilt market and the Soviet Union on the other, which was also large which was also inclusive. Nkrumah thought that for the Blacks to have a chance to establish equality, they would have to go the same route that Africa would have to come up with its own common market. The whole purpose of these countries could best be served if they could control their own means of production. By that, what Nkrumah meant was that the Africans should learn to make refrigerators and automobiles and locomotives and airplanes like the other major markets of the world. Now one of the problems such countries face was how to get access to their own raw material. The capital they needed to develop their infrastructure, to build their roads, the schools, and various other things. Usually countries at that stage of their development find ways to get the capital out of the heights of their people. However, it is disguised, it usually amounts to that. The African countries, therefore had to find some way to encourage their people to sacrifice, to labor, to save. So that their savings could be transmitted into a form of capital and that capital could go into the marketplace and buy raw material goods and services so that they could indeed begin to build the means of production, which could in turn produce the means of production. However, by and large the constituencies that existed in all of the countries had their own ideas of what freedom meant, had their own ideas of what democracy meant, had their own ideas of what they should expect, now that the colonial masters had gone home. And by and large, those ideas were profoundly influenced by what they saw on the screen. What Hollywood described as the true one, a refutable way of life that was at all worth of them. And to some degree, one by one those countries could not persuade their citizenry to make the sacrifices needed to translate themselves into any degree of self-sufficiency. And as I said before, one of the great reasons was that the expectations, the rising expectations of the people themselves was best expressed in terms of goods and services. They saw the refrigerators and they wanted them. They saw the cars and they had to have them. They saw the television sets and they needed them. And all of these things could only be gotten by taking the capital that the country generated and going into the marketplace and spending it. Any political party that did not promise to satisfy the material needs of its people, was in serious trouble. Why? Because those expectations had been shaped by that powerful means of communication of American motion pictures, and television. Therefore, when we speak of film, we speak of something that has a tremendous power to influence the conduct of people, not only in this country but in far away places. And because of that, I have always been ambivalent about American films. I have always felt that not only was Hollywood affecting the conduct of citizens in the United States, but in the world at large. And when I see now those third world countries that so proudly flew their flags of independence in the 1960s, who said with great joy we no longer belong to Britain, we no longer belong to France, we no longer belong to Belgium, we no longer belong to Portugal, they add that we do belong to the International Monetary Fund and Chase National Bank. They have a debt which they will never repay, and to some degree, Hollywood has been instrumental in seducing the people from the structure of the basis of their own Liberty. And we as Americans being thoughtless, being mindless not taking account of what it is we do in the world, have trampled on the capacities of peoples the world over to establish and to define themselves. They become more and more literal imitations of American consumers. Not understanding that consumers do not have the power that producers have. They become an extension of the market place and our merchants gladly make available to these countries free motion pictures, free television ad. They'll give, I Love Lucy to any country that wants it for no charge, because they also are giving the advertisements, they also are giving a way of life that can be sold, that can be translated into dollars and cents. So America has not any need really to be the old fashioned colonialist and go in with gunboats and cannons and rifles and airplanes, all we gotta do is to send pictures, to send Rambo, to send our mythic heroes and watch the fruit fall off the tree. I remember my great surprise when I was making a film in Nigeria, West Africa, and at that time, this was in 1969, most of the films seen by the Nigerians were films that came from India. So, instead of going into the streets and seeing little boys and girls playing Cowboys in Indians which is what I expected, I went into the streets to see little boys and girls doing Indian dances and moves. This to them was living, thus the power of the motion picture to affect human behavior is documented. Now in all of that, what has been the minority experience and how has this experience related to that aspect of the power of Hollywood as it deploys itself throughout the world? You of course, do not need to be told that there is and has been a problem with minority representation in Hollywood and in motion pictures. That's why when we have the seminar, I also believe we will be devote this whole hour to discussing it. By the problem we really mean that Hollywood has by omission and commission and by distortion, had a tremendous impact not only on those of us in the industry, the workers, the writers, the actors, the singers and dances, but what Hollywood has said has had an impact on how we as Blacks and minorities are perceived by the rest of society. And so it was no surprise in 1915, when the Hollywood gave us a breadth of a nation that a little organization that had just been formed in 1909, called the NAACP, rose up in arms and pointed out that these images were not only incorrect but they were not innocent. These images of Blacks, which portrayed them as savage brutes lusting after White flesh, as ignorant people, as thieves, as brigons, as brutes affected the behavior of southern Whites and Northern Whites in their relationship to Black people. And who can say how many Black men were lynched because that film put into somebody's mind the idea that lynching was the only thing appropriate to the behavior of Black people as seen on the screen. The NAACP responded by calling for a boycott of the film by pressuring film, the film houses to withdraw the picture. And it is said that for the first time the NAACP became a national organization because it was able to call upon its chapters across state lines. And the first effective national response to something affecting Black folks in this country, possibly came because the NAACP saw the deleterious possibilities in the film by its use, it's callous, it's destructive use of images that purported to be the truth about Black people. Now the NAACP did not respond only in organizing resistance to the film itself, NAACP raised funds and set out to make its own motion picture. Unfortunately, this never happened but even NAACP began to appreciate the power of the cinema in dispensing information about the people in a society. Now, Hollywood is a reflection of American culture in general, but that's not all Hollywood is. Hollywood is also a specific institution with its own ways of doing things and its own objective. I imagine that Hollywood understood that their was a dream that Americans like to indulge in, a dream in which they saw themselves in certain poses exhibiting certain characteristics. And that those characteristics if played upon by the film or if shown forth in proper filmic style would bring people in large numbers to the box office. The American myth or the American myths that the people love to indulge themselves in was by and large exploited by the Hollywood exploitation machine. Now the American dream did not have much room for a true picture of Black folks. The American dream at that level essentially looked upon America and whiteness as having been immaculately conceived. America was looked upon as that one place where God himself had anointed a chosen people to show forth by what they did and how they did it. The great glories of democracy, the great glories of freedom, the great glories of equality. We were the people who had established a true democracy. Had gone into the wilderness and carved out a kingdom of democracy. And today, when we look at East Europe and we see what is happening even when we look at South Africa, a lot of us Americans congratulate ourselves that it was our example that gave rise to the feelings that these people are expressing. And we think of ourselves as having done something unique, we created a revolution which did not kill off the ruling class. We created a revolution that had no firing squad. We created a revolution that was clean and holy and noble. That was not entirely the truth about how the country got started, what the countries emerging in Eastern Europe will rapidly find, is the same thing that Malcolm X kept telling Martin Luther King. Ultimately to the point of Martin Luther King's embarrassment and Martin Luther King had ultimately to speak to the issue. Malcolm simply said that what's the point of integrating the hamburger shop, if you haven't got the dime to go in and buy the hamburger. Malcolm merely said that freedom had to have an economic content else it was not free. And those countries that are coming to the fore and in Europe now, will soon find it necessary to put some kind of economic base on what they're calling their democracies or something awful is going to happen. Now, we say that we didn't have those problems fostered upon us when we had our revolution, that the revolution involved not only freedom as a political construct, but also freedom as an economic construct. That was not exactly the case. What we did was to get our capital as America was founded not out of the hides of all of our citizens but only out of the hides of those citizens who were Black. But we got it out of their hives. We put them in slavery and we took their labor and we never paid them for their labor. And out of what we extracted from them, we built this great and glorious and free country. When we think of our history, we tend to leave that part out. So in all of the mythology which makes most of us Americans comfortable, facts like that tend to go by the bullet, they get left behind. And in order to justify the exclusion of Blacks from the mythic process by which we define ourselves, we instead begin to blame the victims for their own exclusion, that Blacks are excluded because they are not worth inclusion. Blacks are excluded for the same reason that mules and horses and cattle are excluded. Their actions do not contribute an addition to any meaningful history. They were there, but only as a part of the moving scenery by which history or against which history acted itself out. These myths, these concepts by which America looked at itself and adored itself and thought of itself as immaculate, were the framework in which Hollywood produced all of it's goods and services and sold all of it's goods and services. Therefore, Debbie Dwight Walk Griffith, was in line with that whole concept, when in Breath of a Nation, he categorized a whole race of people as being brutish and inferior because it fitted in with the stereotypical needs of the general attitude of Americans to see America as immaculately conceived with no blood on our hands at all. God had kissed us into being and we were noble and holy and pure in all that we did. As a matter of fact an example of the holiness of us Americans was that in spite of our self-sufficiency, we went to Africa, we brought these people out of their misery, out of the ignorance, out of that stupidity, brought them to our promised land and gave them a means of working at the bottom to improve themselves, to become spiritual, to become like us, to become almost White. Now the truth of the matter is, the system of slavery was not redemptive in any sense of the word, industrial slavery in particular used up people like you use up mules or you use up automobiles or whatever, use them and throw them away. But these aspects of our general culture, were not things that we want to look at, certainly the myths by which we live, are not these are challenges to the myths by which America wanted to live. Therefore, Hollywood because they wanted to explore the myths, had a reason to exclude Black people. Now it did not exclude Black people in total, it brought Black people in, but it brought them in in such a way as to verify the mythology which made our exclusion justified. And there were many brilliant people, Black men and women who used their talents on the screen. But they had to use their talents to help hide the truth of who they and their people were. And a part of the opportunities we had, a part of our entree into Hollywood at all, was on the understanding that we would not rock the boat, that we would not challenge the basic American mythology which put the Whites on top in the form of modern day angels. Now all of this did not go unchallenged. Even in the earliest days there were among us and Blacks in particular, men and women who went out to make film on their own. Film, which they said would be certainly indicative of the truth about Blacks in American society. And, one of the great filmmakers whose name I can't think of right now to save my life was a promoter. He was the Spike Lee of his day. He Oscar Michelle, thank you.\r\n\r\n- Oscar Michelle\r\n\r\n- Oscar Michelle understood the making of film. Oscar Michelle would take his cameras into an apartment building in Harlem where somebody had loaned him a room and he would invite some actress to come in and they would sometimes make up the script as they went along. The script would accommodate what their apartment provided and the next day he would go to some other place. And then once he had made a film and edited it into some kind of continuity, his true genius came into play. He knew how to dress himself, his hat was of a certain style, his coat was cut in a certain way and he put his films into his automobile, and then went out and became his own distributor. And he would go and exhibit his films in Black communities all over the country. And he established a pretty good distribution network. And of course he was not the only one. And there was a time when there was a Black theater circuit in this country. And it grew up around the fact that not only did Hollywood exclude Blacks from meaningful participation as subject matter, but there were no seats no decent seats for Blacks in the picture houses themselves. I remember as a boy in Waycross, Georgia that I had to go up and sit in the peanut gallery. I have to, I couldn't sit where everybody else sat. And there was some times when the whole theater was closed to us and we couldn't get in at all. There was no place for us, except under demeaning circumstances to see this film, Oscar Michelle came along and to some degree exploited Hollywood's racism by giving us a chance to see ourselves and our lives up there on the flickering screen. And he did a very good job of it. Of course, Hollywood, seeing that there was money to be made by the Oscar Michelle's, took care to put enough in the films to hopefully attract the Black people. They knew we wanted to see somebody Black, so they didn't hesitate to bring in Stepin Fetchit, they didn't hesitate to bring in Louise Beavers, or Hattie McDaniels, and some people who were marvelous performers and sometimes give them roles of statute and dignity. And even when the roles were not essentially roles that had dignity and statute written within them, the players themselves would find some way as actors to give us something to identify with and to be proud of as we saw them up on the screen. We on the outside the NAACP and other organizations continually pounded away at Hollywood, you have got to give us some images that are representative of the reality of our people. Because those images that you present, help to justify lynching. And I don't know if you know it but lynching went on in this country up until the beginning of the civil rights revolution, and Congress never passed an anti-lynching law, although we continually petition the Congress should do so. And lynching was something in which a group of mass people, a group of angry people would go into a community, into a house, into a shopping, into whatever, and pick out some Black person and take him out to the edge of town and string that person up and pour gasoline on that person and burn him. Horrible things were happening in the South and other places, up until the time that I myself was a young man. I was witnessed to things which were horrible things that were done to us purely because we were Black. And we felt that what Hollywood was showing justified the kind of treatment that we were getting. We saw Stepin Fetchit, who was a man, so befuddled that he didn't know his right foot from his left. And he was, you know, he could hardly stay awake and he was continually scratching his head. And we were hurt by what we saw Stepin Fetchit do up on the stage because what he did seem to imply that all Blacks were that way and that if a Black man had a problem, he would sit down and think about it for one minute and go to sleep because he didn't have the mental capacity to resolve problems like Whites. We were looked upon as childish, we loved music, we loved singing and dancing, we loved watermelon and fried chicken and we loved the security provided by somebody White who would look out after us. And that somebody White could even be mean to us once in a while and chastises, but that was all right, we were just children anyway, you know. And oh, gon go go with me and my son don't tell me nobody listening to Lincoln and no freedom. I don't know freedom. I just go with me. I don't want to be bothered with that stuff. Your all White, that's White businesses don't bring that to me. I don't want it. None of this of course was true. None of it was ever true, but Hollywood found this to be the kind of picture that fitted in with the mythology that excluded any real representation of what Black folks were like. The mythology also had a specific place for the American Indians. We Americans don't feel good about what we did to the American Indians. Even the name is an imposition that we put upon our people. I don't know what, I don't even know what properly to call that group of people who were here before Columbus came. I don't know if they themselves have chosen a name by which collectively they would like to be known. We call them indigenous Americans but they were here before America as a concept and as a name came into being. And we came in and we took their land, we fought them, we stole their land and the land we gave them, we went in and took anyway. Our behavior toward the American Indians to use that phrase has been genocidal to say the least. But can you imagine the concept of genocide being purveyed by a Hollywood that dealt with the Life and Laughs of Andy Hardy or the pure and noble world of the Cowboys, of John Wayne and those other people who stood tall in the saddle and were for the American way and straight shooters as Superman and all of that? No? So the mythology excluded any true treatment of the Indians and to help it out we didn't even hire Indians to play Indians. Most of the Indians, and I don't know why this is so were guys who grew up in Brooklyn and they had a Brooklyn accent, except that when they say all that stuff, you couldn't tell. But, we didn't want the reality of the Indian to disturb the mythic security, the mythic wall that we had built around ourselves as immaculately conceived people with no blood on our hands. In the Oriental field, the same things happen. You know, Hollywood is on the West Coast and the West Coast has a large contingent of Orientals, Chinese, Japanese, which you wouldn't think it from some of the films that we used to see in the old days, when there were White men who had their eyes slanted and wore long mustaches drooping all the way down and spoke strange Chinese number one song and stuff like that. No Chinese was hired, one Olin good actor, you know, was Mr. Charlie Chan, Roland Winters, I think also was a Mr. Charlie Chan. I have yet to see a Chinese Charlie Chan. Now maybe no Chinese would take such, you know, distortion, and maybe he wouldn't play it but Hollywood had no place in the mythology of exclusion of the immaculately conception for the reality of what the Chinese were. And remember there was always the yellow peril, that concept of America which felt that given a half a chance, the Chinese and the Japanese were gonna come in from Asia in large hordes and overrun the country, they called it the yellow peril. And they used it to justify some very horrible treatment of the Asiatics who did come to the country, helped to build the railroads, went into the mines and did a lot of the dirty work. But in Hollywood, they had no existence. They were not a part of the mythology of the times. Now, how about women? How were women treated? Well, women in our society have always had to bare special burdens. We looked upon them as angels, but we also looked upon them as devils. I remember a film in which Charles Laughton played Rembrandt and he described this woman. I don't know whether it was his wife or the one that he married after his wife died, but in his language, she was half angel, half devil, half child, that's what a woman was. And Hollywood tended to treat women in this way. Now Hollywood to some degree, got it's concept of how women were to be treated from how women were actually treated in the South. And the South put a heavy premium on being chivalrous and its deference to women, and its treatment of women. The Southern aristocracy would take their women and put them on a pedestal and worship them. The women were too holy even to be touched at times. And of course the masters worshiped the women by day and at night when they needed some touching went into the slave quarters and got himself all fixed up and then came back and the woman who was still up on the pedestal, you know, not being touched in ways that she needed to be touched being worshiped and all of this. And the White South, not only considered it's women too sacred for the men to touch but for Black men, it was thought that the thought of touching a White woman was enough to justify the killing of a Black man. But what was the truth of women? How could the truth of women come forth in a culture that was racist and sexist and had sexual hangups, you know, that hadn't even been straightened out today? Women were also given a special place in the mythology. They were indeed as Lawton said angels. They were indeed as Laughton said half child. They were indeed, as Laughton said, devils. But to a very seldom were they put on an equal footing with the male? Women were looked upon as something, you know, you just I don't know what to do. You can't live with them, you can't live without them. We never came to terms with what women truly were. And we're still trying to work that out. And Hollywood is beginning to change in its presentation of women, primarily because women have begun to do like other groups and organize themselves into power contingence and bring that power to bare against those who produce films. And those producers in response to the power presented are beginning to change their behavior. But Hollywood has never set itself out to be a purveyor of the truth. And to that degree, we really can't blame Hollywood, Hollywood never set out to do justice, Hollywood never set out to be fair, Hollywood, never set out to tell the truth, Hollywood, set out to sell the myth that the people would buy about what America thought of itself as pure and noble and holy. And when we went out into the world it wasn't for colonial imperial adventure, no matter what we did in Puerto Rico, no matter what we did in Cuba, no matter what the awful things we did in the Philippines, none of that is what America was truly about. We, put that aside, we swept that under the road. And a lot of our history to this very day remains unrecognized untold because it clashes with the pervading mythology which is Hollywood's Bible. Few people know that we presumably went over to the Philippines to help free them from Spain. And then when it was time for us to go, we didn't go. And so that the Philippine revolutionaries had to turn around and begin to fight the Americans. And few of us know that a lot of the Black troops who were used to subdue the Philippines went over to the side of the Philippines and fought with them against the American Whites. Few of us even know that, but those are facts. They contradicted the mythology that Hollywood was selling. Now we have not found a way to really make Hollywood change it's behavior by appealing to this morality. Because, you say, I haven't gotten morality. I'm not in the moral business, that's for the church and the school the universities and whatnot. I'm in the entertainment business. I'm here to make a fast buck and I intend to make it the best way I can. Hollywood, however has modified its behavior. And how has this been brought about? It's been brought about because the groups that were excluded, the Blacks, the women's, the Chicanos, the Indians, or whatever have little by little found a way to use their collective weight in the marketplace to invite Hollywood to change its opinion or to change the way it does business. Little by little the NAACP encouraged Black folks not to buy where they were mistreated and not to go and see films that degraded us. Now none of these campaigns really were a big smashing success but they did succeed in embarrassing Hollywood. At no time was the NAACP able to prevent enough Black folks from going to see the films that it really would make a difference, but it did prevent some. And there were enough people in Hollywood who did have consciousnesses, enough people in Hollywood who were trying for Hollywood to be responsible. 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humanly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40899/file/112732#t=32.64,37.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40899/file/112732/transcript/26035/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a result of what had happened during World War II.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40899/file/112732#t=37.26,42.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40899/file/112732/transcript/26035/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, but that didn't last too 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And there was another show on Broadway that got called \"On Whitman Attitude\", \"On Whitman Avenue\". And another show called \"Strange Fruit\" There was on Broadway a plethora of shows in that period about black folks and Hollywood took up the bait and began to make shows. \"Pinky\" was one and several other shows that had to do, \"Intruders in the Dust\", that took a different look at black folks and began to treat them humanly, as a result of what had happened during World War II. Now, but that didn't last too long. One of the things about the minorities in Hollywood is that we are welcome as long as we either make the people, the powers that be feel good morally, or as long as we add to the bottom line. But when either of those attractions begins to wane, Hollywood will show us the same door that we came in and ask us to leave. This happened to me in 1969, when Hollywood changed its attitudes toward the minorities. And I was instrumental in helping to engineer the change in the following way. I was hired to direct a film called \"Cotton Comes to Harlem\". And \"Cotton Comes to Harlem\" was a story written by Chester Himes, who was a black writer, about two detectives in Harlem who were black. The whole thing was black, black, black, black, black, all the way through. And I directed it. I also coauthored the script. So it was pretty black. And when it came out, the prognosis was that this film should garner about $12 million, that it had legs, as the saying goes. And $12 million in those days was an astronomical figure for a film to gain. Now up to that time, those of us in the black community who went to Hollywood with scripts or whatever, were told, \"Well we liked the script, we liked the story, but we made 'A Raisin in the Sun' and it lost money. And we made a 'Learning Tree' and it lost money, and films about black folks just don't make money and we just can't afford it. Well, \"Cotton Comes to Harlem\" did make money. Now it never gained the $12 million that was projected from the first week at the box office, but it did gain 5 1/4 million dollars in the United States marketplace. The 5 1/4 millions gave United Artists a profit. And for the first time, Hollywood was able to see that there was a profit in black film. They also noticed that the difference between the five million that came in and the seven million that did not was that the five million was money that came from the black folks. And the seven million was money that the white folks did not pay because whites did not want to be involved and they, white folks were not interested in black material in that time. But you could leave out the whites altogether and still make a profit. So out of \"Cotton Comes to Harlem\" came the impulse that led to blaxploitation films. And for a while, there were a lot of blaxploitation films. \"Blacula\" came out, \"The Legend of Nigger Charley\", \"Shaft\" and all, for a long time Hollywood was rolling in money that came from the black audience. That did not necessarily have to depend upon the whites to come in at all to give Hollywood a profit. Now, meanwhile, the fathers that be in Hollywood kept saying to themselves, \"We got to find something that is crossover.\" In other words, we've got to find something that we can get the black dollars but also not frighten off the white dollars. And the desire for crossover is still at work in Hollywood right now. But with blaxploitation film and, it lasted say, about 10 years. And during that time, if I went to the West Coast, the doors were open to me, Melvin van Peebles and other black directors. We were asked to lunch and we discussed big projects and we got assignments and we went out and did them. But then the market began to wane. The pictures got bad and the audience got bored. And they started to stay away in droves. Now Hollywood then had no further use for us. They didn't take us as they took others and put us on other film that might not necessarily relate to the black experience. No, we were exclusively tied to the blaxploitation market. Nor did they respect the market enough to tell us, \"Hey, let's get a different kind of film here to meet the expectations of that market. We don't want them to go, we don't want to turn them loose.\" No, the old thing happened. Those, while we were good, while we made money, we were welcome. And then when the time came and the money stopped, we were left outside once again. Now, lately the situation has changed dramatically because the way of production has been affected in radical ways, by new people on the scene with new strategies. An extreme example, but the clearest one for the purposes of the argument would be a Spike Lee. Now, Spike is an independent producer. But Spike knows how to produce independently, several continuous, several subsequent works, without losing his independence. Many of the early independents, on the basis of the work they did, were invited into the kingdom and they never came back. They became a part of the Hollywood establishment. Spike is proof against the necessity to do that. Spike firmly believes that no matter how far he might be welcomed into the kingdom of Hollywood, that if he cease to be a moneymaker, that same door that was opened to let him in would open to let him out. So Spike then has to come up with a strategy, which doesn't depend upon Hollywood's opening the door in the first place or closing it. Now, what I think Spike's strategy is, is this. Now bear in mind that I'm not a market researcher. I'm not a great economist, I'm not a great promoter. But this is what I think Spike has hit upon that made the difference. Spike knows how to meet the expectations and needs of a target audience that is essentially black. He knows that if he meets the needs of this target audience, there is a certain amount of money that will be available to him. So what he has to do is figure backwards. If the target audience can give me X amount of money, what I need to do is to make a film that doesn't cost X amount of money but costs less, so that if the target audience buys the film as it is expected to do, I will have guaranteed a certain amount of money as profit. Now, his films, \"She's Gotta Have It\" went out and reached the target audience. And then he made \"School Daze\", which went out and reached the target audience. And then he made \"Do the Right Thing\", which went out and really reached the target audience. Now, in addition to his target audience, especially with \"Do the Right Thing\", a lot of people who weren't black came to the theater in droves and bought the tickets and made the film into a great success. Now, the temptation for Spike, of course, and for Hollywood would be, for Hollywood to call Spike, say, \"Hey, I got this film I want you to do. I got this script I want you to do.\" And I'm sure they must call him because they have scripts that are coming in at all times. And Spike would be an addition to any studio system out there. They would give Spike a chance, a shot, mostly, at anything he would want to do. But Spike will not accept that from Hollywood. Spike still insists on writing his own scripts. Spike still insists on keeping his headquarters in Brooklyn. Spike still insists on being his own producer, his own executive producer, and doing things his way. On the set with \"Do the Right Thing\", I saw something I never saw before. I saw a crew that was thoroughly integrated. You had blacks in it and whites in it and yellow people in it and Puerto Rican people in it and crippled people in it, all kinds of people. The crews, now it takes about 12 disciplines to make a film. And each of these disciplines are represented by a union. And each of these unions is highly exclusive of blacks and women and Chinese and everybody else. It's like hell getting into those unions. Spike, because he's independent, hired who he wanted. You know, the hell with the unions, you know. And he, and the people came and worked. And the strange and beautiful thing about it was that these people, most of whom had never worked before, formed such an efficient machine that Spike could choreograph his works, produce his works on time and under budget, because these people who were his crew got so thoroughly attuned to him that if he thought he wanted something, somebody was already halfway to get it for him. I never heard him raise his voice once on the set. Now, the situation on most sets is that all of the disciplines are at war one with the other. They hate each other. They refuse to eat in the same tent with each other. They despise each other and they cut each other's throat, and they hold up the production because this one refuses to do that because that one, you know. and they will take days to decide whether the false bosom that a woman wears is an item of costume or makeup. And they fight over that, man, they fight over that, \"That's mine.\" \"No, that's mine,\" and hold up the whole damn production. Spike's people did not fight. They all worked like this, in New York, which is a hell of a city, a union city, a tough, as a matter of fact it was the unions that drove a lot of the filmmakers to the West and drove television to the West too. But still union was so hard to crack. Spike went around the unions and they didn't bother him. But more than that, Spike goes to Hollywood and he takes his shovel, takes his wheelbarrow. And he goes to the Hollywood bank and says, \"Fill it up.\" And they said, \"What have you got?\" Said, \"I got my script.\" \"We want to see it.\" \"No.\" \"What's it about?\" \"No. You want to give me the money or don't you?\" \"Okay. Okay, Spike. How much you say you want?\" \"Fill it up.\" So they put all the money in Spike's wheelbarrow and then he turns around and he starts out. They say, \"Wait, wait, wait, Spike. We'll send somebody with you.\" He said, \"No.\" \"Uh, well, you gonna tell us when you, you're gonna keep, it's our money, and we want someone counting.\" Spike says, \"well look, don't call me, I'll call you.\" And he goes back to Brooklyn and he begins to make his film. Now, once in a while, somebody from Hollywood will walk onto the set, but he's just a visitor. Spike doesn't stop to talk to him or make any concessions at all. The brother's wandering around in the way. You know, trying to say, \"I'm I'm, I'm from Universal.\" He says, \"Yeah man, I know what you mean.\" And some big, some big panjandrum, you know. Big out there, but on Spike's set, you wouldn't know that the brother stood for anything at all. Spike then finishes his film and he then edits his film and he then puts the music to his film. Meanwhile, he was already planned his promotion for the film. As a matter of fact, the first day we went to rehearse for \"Do the Right Thing\", Spike gave us the cap and the T-shirt that goes with it already. This was going to be on the market. He wanted people to see us wearing it so they'd run around to the corner store where Spike had already stocked it up and start buying stuff. Oh yeah. He's got it all locked up. When Spike finishes, he already has, before he shoots, the day he wants to film to open and where, and the music publishers he wants to deal with. And he insists that they be the ones that he picks. You know, all of this is under his control. Absolute control, and he brooks no opposition from nobody. And everybody in Hollywood loves and admires Spike but they also fear him. You always fear an independent who doesn't fear you. And can take your money and go off and you have to stand and wait till he, you know, to let you come and see what's happening to your money. But if, if you have a track record like Spike, you know, I forget who made \"School Daze\". I guess it was Columbia, or Warner Brothers, whatever. And they, I think they wanted to see the script or they had some objections. Spike snatched the whole project and went to Universal and got the money, you know, and Universal gave it to him. Now Universal keeps coming and when Spike wants to show them something, he shows it to them. Now with \"Do the Right Thing\", when Spike had finished it and showed it to Universal, well, they, everybody's a little concerned. It was a highly controversial thing then and they had invested their money in it and there was no way they could get out of it. And Spike wouldn't change a word or sentence, never. You don't even talk about that to him, you know? And when they went to the Cannes Film Festival, you know, and I went over there and Ruby did too. And we met the highest people from Universal. And I must say, they stood behind. They stood behind Spike. They, they were assaulted, they were attacked. Cause people said, \"This film is going to cause riots. When it's shown, black folks are gonna come out of the theater and tear up the whole town.\" And they said, \"Universal, how dare you make a film like that? How dare you distribute it?\" And the Universal presidents, they sweated a little. But they stood tight because they had no other option. If they had walked away, all that money that they gave Spike would've gone down the drain. Also Spike would have had the film and he would have gone out and got another distributor and done and got his money back. So Spike had the brothers in a bind. And so they stood tight and they came back and the film was made. And then the film was distributed and nobody ran out of the theaters and burned any damn thing down. It made a lot of money, it created a lot of talk. It also garnered a lot of prizes and awards. And meanwhile, Spike was plotting his next movie which is already finished, you know? And I think he's writing on another one because he called the other day and said, \"Save September, October, November.\" He doesn't stop. He keeps going, but he is thoroughly and totally in control of himself. There's no point in Hollywood waving its finger at Spike, saying, \"We're going to give you the golden Cadillac.\" Spike still rides the subway, you know. Ain't nothing they can give the brother that he will fall for. And therefore they admire, respect, fear, and hate him. And you can understand that to be the case. Now, but as long as Spike is there, as long as Spike has a key to the black audience, as long as Spike is one of the master marketeers of this day and age, and believe me, as great a filmmaker as Spike is, he is even greater as a promoter. This man is the true genius at exploiting every possible salable item in connection with a film for a profit. And he doesn't, you know, he doesn't take advantage of anybody, but if there is a shirt to be bought that has Spike on it, Spike controls the shirt. If Spike hears that there's a store around the corner or a store across town that's selling his shirts and they got the shirt from somebody else, except him, Spike goes to the brother and talks to him, whoever he is. Says, \"I'm Spike Lee and I see you got my shirts here. Where'd you get them from?\" You know, Spike follows up on everything. And as long as he's able to do that, as long as he has access to his own people, Hollywood knows that it would waste its time to withdraw giving him the money to make the film. If they didn't give Spike the millions he needed to make the film, Spike would make a film for 100 to two or 300,000, out of somebody's pocket. And it would be a blockbuster. And he'd make oodles of money. Now, as long as that is true, as long as Spike seems to have a lock on his section of the audience, Hollywood cannot guarantee that somebody else will not be able to do exactly what Spike has done. They will therefore tend to respond to the needs of the black audience. Also along comes other variations of the black experience and Eddie Murphy comes along, and then Eddie Murphy goes and he becomes a box office smash. So Hollywood loves him and will follow him any place he wants to go. He does not threaten them in the same way that a Spike does, because Eddie works in the genre of Hollywood itself. This is the kind of thing that Hollywood does anyway. The violence, the sex, the, you know, all of that stuff, or the pornography or whatever it is. They love him for that. But at the same time, they do respect him and he's still black. And there's still Cosby, you know, who hasn't done a good film lately but Cosby on television is dynamite. So Hollywood has to say, \"Well if Cosby wants to do it, you know, we better do, better come up with the money.\" And now Oprah Winfrey is her own producer, you know, and is beginning to produce films herself so that the minority experience in films in Hollywood will not no longer depend exclusively on the whims of Hollywood itself. It's a volatile situation, we don't know which way it will go, but it certainly will never be the same. And I cannot possibly believe that the black producers and directors and filmmakers who have been let out of the bottle are going to ever be put back again. So the minority experience in film mirrors America's determination to keep the mythology by which it has served its own ego needs over the years, pure and spotless. But it is being chipped away at. Because what Spike has done, others have done. James Edward Olmos, who is a Chicano from Mexico, has done things. Women are beginning to do things. Lee Grant, a woman director, has been recognized for the films that she has made, and some of the others. So change is in the air, but change has to be managed. Change has to be guided. Change has to be given an objective. And that's where we are now. Hollywood isn't about to purify itself. They don't feel that motive at all. They still feel that what they need to know is where the bucks are and how to beat the opposition to get them. So those of us who care about the quality of work in Hollywood must seize the moment, now, while the situation is fluid and make our wishes known, and make them known by means of pressure. Even letter-writing campaigns wouldn't hurt. But getting together, supporting some independent filmmaker in some venture. I see that they had, at Sundance, Robert Redford's place, where the independents have a sort of headquarters, they just had a big confab about that. And a couple of pieces by some brothers just blew everybody away. And that's not even Spike, that's not even Eddie Murphy. That's some other young, black, independent filmmakers coming along. This young lady from South Africa who did \"Sugar Cane Alley\" and \"A Dry White Season\", she will be heard from. The need of Hollywood to be broad in its net, so that it can go out into the world market and make its moneys, extends and exposes Hollywood to the kinds of pressure that can make it creative. When the people on the periphery begin to develop their own Spike Lees, the things in Hollywood will change and continue to change. And hopefully for the better. I have tried, from my own perspective, to share with you my thinking about the minority experience. I would like to repeat my introductory disclaimers. I am not an authority. I am not even a good motion picture audience. Most of the films that come out, even the good ones, I don't see. I don't either have the time or not the great interest. I have no consistent approach to Hollywood at all. It's hit or miss, you know, by your leave or whatnot. All I can do do is give you the benefit of my thinking and experience over a long period of years. As I said before, I, the first film I was ever in was in 1949, the first film that Sidney Poitier made. So I have been there since '49. I have joined with the, with those who picketed. I've joined with those who have agitated. I've joined with those who have investigated. I've given testimony to Congress and to legislatures, and whatnot. And I have also worked in the industry to help change things, and I'm still working in the industry. I can only give you one American's subjective and private opinion of what the black experience in Hollywood has been. I hope to some degree it's been helpful and enlightening. And certainly I look forward now to answering some questions which will then give me a chance to give you a better performance than the one I just did. Okay. Are there questions? Thank you. Thank you, this. This young lady and then you, sir. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I have two questions.\r\n\r\n- Yes, two questions.\r\n\r\n- One is, did \"Raisin in the Sun\", when it was released, encounter a lot of controversy because it was about racism ?\r\n\r\n- Did \"Raisin in the Sun\" encounter a lot of controversy? I don't remember that it had encountered any. It just never made at the box office enough money to pay the studios back.\r\n\r\n- And then the second one is, Spike Lee has written two books, one on \"She's Gotta Have It\" and one on \"School Daze\". How does that work in his marketing strategy?\r\n\r\n- Spike has written three books. He's also written the same kind of book on \"Do the Right Thing\". It works as a part of his marketing strategy at all levels. In the first place, the book itself is its own advertising, right? The book itself calls attention to Spike Lee. The book calls attention to what Spike is doing. The book sets the public up for the next thing that Spike is going to do. And also the book sheds, shares the knowledge of how he did it with the brothers and sisters out there who also want to do it. Those books are invaluable. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Yes. I think about the black filmmakers and directors, and gentlemen think about the black exploitation period, Gordon Parks, Jr. and the new upcoming directors, sort of Spike Lee and Robert Townsend. Why are they receiving so much pressure specifically from their own folks? I mean, there's so much controversy behind the movies. Why are we giving them more flak than anyone else? You know, when they're trying to break into the business, tough as it is, why does that happen?\r\n\r\n- Well, from my perspective, that is to be expected, not to be admired but it's the way things happen. When these young men come along and make film, and I had the same problem too. I had the same problem with a stage play I did called \"Purlie Victorious\". And with \"Cotton Comes to Harlem\". You have to make a compromise. You compromise between your true vision of what the black experience is. And you compromise with what you think makes a good entertaining film and film sense. Now there is no way that any one producer and any film, no matter how inclusive, can cover everybody's expectation or description of what the black experience is. A good example of that is Spike's film \"School Daze\". \"School Daze\" was attacked by a lot of blacks, not because what \"School Daze\" said was wrong. And for those of you who didn't see the film, \"School Daze\" to some degree was about class and color differences on a black campus. And nobody denied that these differences took place. What Spike was attacked for was washing black linen. So white folks could see, you know, what the little things that we didn't, that we were mad, or that we weren't very proud of. And I suppose it would be nice if everybody black would understand what the situation was, but it has never happened before. And those filmmakers who come along, blacks in particular, are gonna catch a lot of flak from black folks. And one of the reasons is, we blacks have been hurt by what's been shown about us on the screen for so long that when a black filmmaker comes along and his image in any way approximates what the white image is, you know, we scream again. Now a lot of people scream because Spike avoided that trap in \"Do the Right Thing\". Spike didn't bring in drugs. So a lot of people said, \"Man, you didn't bring in drugs, like how can you talk about the black community?\" And Spike says, \"Is drugs definitive of the black community? Do all the white filmmakers have to have every aspect of white experience before somebody would look at the films that they make?\" I think maybe the baseline would be this. We have so much in our community to say and we have so few opportunities to say it that when one person goes out to say it, we make sure that he tells our story too, because we have no guarantee that we will ever get another chance. We expect too much from our filmmakers, but it's thoroughly understandable. Yes.\r\n\r\n- In respect to television. Well, now I know we have the Cosby show now, which is bringing about a change. But why haven't we had black Marcus Welbys, and a black Trapper John, black Quincy? About a year ago I saw a television program that aired for a day, it was called \"Return to Beakman's Place\". It was about a brother who was chief of staff. He was a surgeon, you know, he had a nice house, nice family. And you know, we're out there, we have this. Why don't we see more of that?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that television operates in terms of cycles. The people in television, looking at the bottom line, sees that the situation comedy is where the money is and not the hour adventure or the stories. They don't tend, they're more expensive. It's more difficult to get them into syndication and syndication's where you get your money back. So, and therefore they are economically much more risky and you won't see blacks in that kind of thing. And you, you won't see too many whites in it. Now everybody wants to make a situation comedy like Bill Cosby, like whatnot, because presumably that's where the money is. It doesn't mean that those shows would not be successful. I believe, as an intelligent market strategy, that the producers should produce all kinds of shows and give them each, you know, an outing or a chance to succeed. But most of the producers are independents, the networks are not supposed to produce their own shows and the independents have their own economic ax to grind. No show produced makes its money back in the first two outings on prime time. They never pay off. The shows pay off later, when the prime time commitment is over and the show goes into syndication. It is in syndication that the profits lie. So everybody's out to do something that will syndicate, that will sell well 10 years from now, that is a comedy, and that the American public will just love for all that time. And they might not love a black Marcus Welby. But they will love a black Jefferson or something like that. So it's the economics. It's the fact that the economics outweigh the common sense. That's why, that's one of the reasons why we don't see that kind of show. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Many of us consider Malcolm X a great political leader. Can you, given your friendship with Malcolm, can you tell us about some of your experience with Malcolm?\r\n\r\n- Well, I can, but does that violate the, the way of the whole thing? The question was, because I knew Malcolm and was to some degree a friend of his, what was it about Malcolm that was worthy of note? Malcolm X, in my considered opinion, was one of the closest things to Thomas Jefferson as a revolutionary that America has produced. But Malcolm was black. So Malcolm fell way outside the mythology. The Tom Jefferson we know was a noble angel who wrote marvelous words about freedom and independence. It never occurs to us that that same Thomas Jefferson raised money to buy guns to kill people with and didn't hesitate to be violent as hell when it was required. And Malcolm was merely saying, you know, if revolution is good enough for the Founding Fathers, it's good enough for me. That's really what he said. But coming from a black man, that upset everybody, blacks and whites, and essentially this was the basic reason why Malcolm was looked down on. He also was unfortunate in this. He came to the public's attention purveying a doctrine based on racism. Malcolm truly believed in the beginning that the whites were blue-eyed devils and they were inferior, and they all, none of them could be trusted and they were all villains and the most, the worst thing in the world. He truly believed that. And he believed it until he went to Mecca and he saw at Mecca all kinds of people who were Muslims, some white and blue-eyed, just like the ones he'd been calling devil. To Malcolm this was a revelation. And he saw then, you know, that people could not be arbitrarily judged and categorized on their color, but on their behavior. He came back, he changed completely, but he let everybody know, \"Because I have changed my thinking on the race question, I have not changed my thinking on the fact that America is a son of a bitching country out to kill black folks and I'm not going to accept it in any way.\" He believed that all the way down. Martin was much smarter and could express his feelings about America more mellifluously, more forgivingly, more like Thomas Jefferson, but Martin too came to be revolutionary in in his appreciation of what needed to be done in the country. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yes, you mentioned \"Birth of a Nation\" as having an evil influence on both blacks and whites. But do you really see programs like The Jeffersons and even Bill Cosby's role as 180 degrees ?\r\n\r\n- Oh yeah, I would say that they're 180 degrees from \"The Birth of a Nation\" in this regard. \"The Birth of a Nation\" not only showed blacks as inferior buffoons and baboons, \"The Birth of a Nation\" traduced and gave the lie to one of the most significant historical periods in the country and told deliberate lies about what was accomplished by the Reconstruction South, when a lot of the states, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, had legislatures composed of whites and blacks. And those legislatures did marvelous things. It is said that the public high school system is a creation of what some of those legislators, white and black, came up with. In \"Birth of a Nation\", the black legislators, you know, with their feet up on the desk and the gold spittoon, you know, and they were the most awful people in the world. The assumption being that black folks had no capacity to rule, had no capacity to legislate. And that the KU Klux Klan was justified. That was all that white folks could do to come and get rid of these carpetbaggers who were using these ignorant niggers to rape white women. So that \"The Birth of a Nation\", it wasn't only the stereotypes of blacks that was reprehensible. It was that it traduced a very important historical period in our life and the history of this country. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I want to know what your opinion is of the comments that Eddie Murphy made at the Academy Award ceremony about the lack of black recipients. Do you have a, would you like a ?\r\n\r\n- I don't know what comments he made.\r\n\r\n- At the Academy Awards he said, there were so few and that he was shunned by the Academy and they'd never get him to speak again, I just wondered .\r\n\r\n- In other words, Eddie said that the Academy was racist in its policies? Well, I didn't, I haven't been following too closely, but if he said it, he speaks to some degree that which is true. It may not be true by direct practice, but it's true by implication. The Academy still would like to preserve the mythic purity of white America and its concept of itself. And it still likes to make exceptions and bring in those who fit, the blacks who fit best, into that category. So if he spoke meaningfully about that I would agree with what he said. Yes.\r\n\r\n- The Academy Award nominations will be announced tomorrow morning. Do you have any feelings of how you think \"Do the Right Thing\" might fare?\r\n\r\n- No. In all honesty, I am against the Academy Awards. I, it was a very difficult thing for me to go to Hollywood to get the award from the NAACP. I believe in the idea of an Academy, an Academy in which the peers get together and point out the artist who has, through excellence, made a major contribution. That's wonderful. But the Academy Awards are something different altogether. They are a promotional institution by which Hollywood advertises its wares on television. And each of the entrants are backed by the pocket book of the producer so that the man who has the most money to spend will tend to win. That has nothing to do with merit. You know, you buy the Academy Awards and apart, although I liked the fact that the NAACP put up its own awards, Image Awards, because blacks were particular, were being excluded in the Academy Awards, the NAACP Image Awards are too close to Hollywood. The gravitational pull is too great. And I suspect now that Hollywood, I know it, Hollywood begins to lobby for the Image Awards to listen to what they have to offer. And it's very difficult for somebody innocent who is a member of the NAACP Committee, the Screening Committee, it's very difficult for that person not to be flattered if he gets a phone call from the head of a studio or something like that. The possibilities of corruption are infinite. And people, you know, we are human. So the judging, I mean, the judgment gets distorted. And I have nothing against the Academy Award because it does, as a marketing tool, it's marvelous, But I personally, I don't follow it. And I don't, you know, it's not because I'm goody two shoes or I'm better than that, but damn it, I just don't like the Academy Awards and I'm sorry. I don't. No. Question over here? Question, oh yes.\r\n\r\n- You know, I was just curious on, to what extent do you think that Hollywood has the ability to rewrite history, especially in the presentation of minorities? Or even you know, converse of that, write? How can Hollywood expose the unwritten part of history, parts that are kind of washed over ?\r\n\r\n- Well, Hollywood has a tremendous power to rewrite history. One example, and I'm going beyond my means on this because I haven't seen the film, but it's, I think \"Mississippi Burning\", from what I hear, you know, gave glorified representation to the part played by the FBI in the Goodman Chaney Schwerner incident in Mississippi, when as somebody who was involved in that, who knew the families from which these boys had come, you know, and who suffered the anguish of those parents and who was a part of what was going on, who knew those workers, some had come through my house, and I knew what the stories were, you know. And I knew what they had, that the FBI, I didn't believe, I still don't believe the FBI did what Hollywood said it did and that Hollywood has the power to rewrite history. And because we swallow what Hollywood gives us uncritically, you know, we are affected by what Hollywood says, you know. Now if Hollywood has the power to rewrite history, Hollywood has the power also to correct what history has done wrong. \"Glory\" is an example. Hollywood rewrites history positively in that instance. However, in \"Glory\", how many of you seen \"Glory\"? It's a marvelous presentation of the charge of the 54th Massachusetts Regiment and the battle against Fort Wagner, a real story based on the bravery of black soldiers who fought with no pay, who fought under all kinds of circumstances and did well for themselves. And yet even that film gives no credit to Frederick Douglass. And Frederick Douglass was important on two accounts, two scores. Number one, Frederick Douglass, as much as any other American was directly responsible for goading Abraham Lincoln and staying on his back and on his butt until finally, Abraham Lincoln had to say, \"We have got to put black troops in the field against the Confederates.\" Frederick Douglass was the man who kept saying it and he kept pounding it away and he was a very influential American at that time, number one. Number two, there were very few blacks in Massachusetts when the 54th Regiment was organized. And so who was hired to go out into the country and recruit free black men to come in and fill the regiment? Frederick Douglass. Frederick Douglass's son fought at the battle of Fort Wagner and survived. And the picture tells us nothing about Frederick Douglass, but even so, it's a marvelous, it's a better story than Hollywood told in the past. Hollywood has all power to do justice to history. And one day we're going to make it do that. Can we have, have we time for one or two more questions?\r\n\r\n- Two more.\r\n\r\n- Two more questions. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Who or what did you use for your inspiration for your character in \"Do the Right Thing\"?\r\n\r\n- Who was the inspiration for my character in \"Do the Right Thing\". In \"Do the Right Thing\", I played Da Mayor, who was a beer-besotted, a man who was on the verge of delirium tremens, but who was an instrument in holding the community together, who thought more highly of himself than the kids in the community thought of himself, who saw what was happening in the community and tried to help out. Who was the person that I based that on? I didn't base it on a single individual, but I based it on several men that I have known, who came from the South, who tried and were defeated, but always had an image of themselves that was greater than they were. And they kept trying to live up to that image even though they continually failed. I know people like that. And they were the people that I was talking about when I tried to do Da Mayor. Who, yes.\r\n\r\n- Don't you think that it's unfair to expect so much from independent filmmakers like Spike Lee?\r\n\r\n- It's unfair to expect so much from independent filmmakers, yes. On the other hand, Harry Truman had it, \"If you can't stand the heat, don't come in the kitchen.\" Right? The independent film makers, when a part of their independence is they're going to have to pay for it. They're going to give up buck, man. They're going to give up blood and all, but they have--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40899/file/112732#t=0.0,2754.816"}]}]}]}