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Once again, I'd like to welcome everyone here on behalf of the Institute of National Affairs. First of all, I'd like to remind everyone that our week of lectures will be coming to an end tonight with a performance by a comedian Jimmy Tingle. He'll be performing at C.Y. Stephens auditorium at 8:00 PM tonight, and the admission is free. Next I go ahead and introduce our panel. They'll be discussing Drug Testing and the constitutional perspectives thereof. First of all, my right is John Drowatzky. He's the chairman and professor in the department of health promotion and human performance at the University of Toledo, and an attorney who teaches sport law and the physiology and psychology of motor activity. His books include Legal Issues in Sport and Physical Education Management, and Motor Learning Principles and Practices. Next on his right Pat Maloy. He's also an attorney and teaches courses in legal aspects of sports, sports management and facility management at the University of Michigan. His books include Law in Sport: Liability Cases in Management and Administration and Organizing Policy for Interscholastic Academic Athletic Programs. Let's give him a warm welcome.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. I hope I'm coming across on the microphone, okay. When John and I had been asked to do this, we had promised the committee that we would give a strong and diverse pro-con argument regarding constitutional issues in drug testing. We traveled together here to AIMS and the more that we traveled we found that we were starting to agree with one another. So I've tried to stay out of his view for the last couple of days. In approaching drug testing I thought it was very appropriate with Ramsey Clark's discussion last night which by the way, I found to be an extremely compelling discussion. I hope for those of you where there you found it the same. I think whether you agree or disagree with his views of constitutional applications, that we would all agree that he serves as a great national conscience. And for me, really set the tone for what I consider a contrast, and how John I are going to approach this today. He posed last night, if you'll recall, when he talked about the first amendment, he says, I'm an absolutist, meaning that he took in the area of the constitution, specifically with free speech the idea that what it means literally is what it means literally. He used it to say the Congress shall not pass any laws which shall abridge free speech. Now, in our legal system we have bought over the last 170 years the idea of interpretation of the constitution. Many of us are aware today that candidates for the Supreme Court are evaluated on their basis as to whether they will construe the constitution liberally or where they are all a Robert Bork a strict constructionist, and last night Ramsey Clark gave us a new theme and said should we go back and take it at its literal word? I think in approaching areas of drug testing, that type of contrast between should we interpret the constitution or take it at its literal word becomes very applicable. We are going to contrast for you today what we call administrative drug testing. We're going to talk about drug testing done by school officials, we're going to talk about drug testing done in the workplace. There are two pertinent amendments. We will touch briefly on the Fourth Amendment. If I may paraphrase the Fourth Amendment prohibits the government without just cause or no, I should caution without warrant prohibits a government without warrant from unlawfully searching or seizing items within your home or your person. We will be talking about the 14th Amendment, two concepts, number one defining the right to privacy as it applies to drug testing, and defining due process, as it applies to drug testing. I guess the contrast we would present is that you could look at John Drowatzky, who I will note, I consider a strong constitutional scholar in the area of drug testing, and say here's the legal scholar. And then you could take me, a small town public defender from the state of Indiana and say, here's the jailhouse lawyer seeking constitutional redress for his client because I think that's kind of the way we may approach this. We are not going to reinvent the wheel for you. We have agreed there are certain precedent already set in the workplace and in the schools regarding constitutional issues. So we're not gonna take the point of view that let's throw out all the precedents have been done because it can't. But I think we are going to approach it from the concept that John, in looking at constitutional issues, has said we haven't done a bad job. We're not perfect, but we haven't done a bad job in setting up constitutional safeguards in this drug testing element. Whereas I, being more of the reactionary and probably a little more emotional, wonder whether we haven't rushed to judgment if I might borrow Mark Lane's title on his book on the Kennedy assassination, if we haven't rushed to judgment in terms of constitutional application as it regards to drug testing. So I'd like to introduce my friend John Drowatzky.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, Pat. He told me last night he was gonna brand me as the fascist approach and his was the more open and free approach. But that's what happens when you... when you spend a few hours together in the car and try and work out what you're gonna say, and then work out here. What we're trying to do is to stimulate some thought, as Pat has suggested, we are staying within the parameters that have already been established, but both of us feel that there are some future decisions that need to be made and by following what goes on with drug testing, maybe it'll help us when we get into a discussion of that. When we summarize it at the end, we will point out what we think some of the concerns that really merit discussion are before we get into a reaction and say, that's the way that it is. The Fourth Amendment illegal search and seizure has rather limited application. It's limited to criminal cases, and the courts have pretty well said that this limited application can be overcome by the use of warrant or with probable costs. For example, if a car is stopped and policeman comes in and he sees a package of suspicious thing laying in the seat next to you, he doesn't need a warrant to do that. Further, the state can often prevail by showing some kind of compelling subordinating interests, so that when the state shows an interest, then it too may overcome some of the constitutional limitations. Probably the more important thing to keep in mind when we talk about these administrative things, and we're using primarily athletics because it has so many interesting issues to it, is the issue of privacy. Privacy deals with state action again. Is persona a state actor? And courts have held that the NCAA and Ohio High School Athletic Association, Iowa High School Athletic Association, Michigan or whatever the association is, is not a state actor. For example, the NCAA is a voluntary organization. People can get out of it if they want they don't have to be members. They may not be able to participate in the NCAA championship, but they still have the freedom to be or not to be a member of the NCAA. The NCAA and other associations therefore can make rules and regulations that are consistent with their purpose. So if you read the stated purpose, most of these things say something about equalization of competition or fair competition, develop the program for the health, safety, and welfare of the participants, and to prevent exploitation of athletes. The NCAA constitution, article two, section two for example says the principle of student athlete welfare, intercollegiate athletic programs shall be conducted in a manner designed to protect and enhance the physical and educational welfare of student athletes. Let's think about that for a minute. Institutions have just finished recruiting football players. So we just had the national letter of intent signed. Shortly in March we will have the finish of the Mack March Madness. And after that, some people would say we have April insanity when the coaches are out trying to sign all of the basketball recruits. When these people come into the institution there's a tremendous pressure to win. Think about how you balance the budget in an athletic program today. How many institutions really do fund an athletic program totally from gate receipts? We're talking about gate receipts, television, and then student fees to help supplement. There's only a couple that I can think of. University of Michigan, Ohio State University that really totally paid for their programs through the user fees, if you would. And I think there's what five or seven nationwide that you could say operating in the black. So for most institutions, what we're talking about is reduction of the deficit. How do you reduce the deficit? You get on television. How do you get on television? You have a winning team. How do you have a winning team? Well, you don't go out and teach them new recruits how to play the game. You get people that are already able to play. In this kind of situation, there is a lot of pressure to win on the student athlete, and many athletes then will attempt to look for ways that they can get that competitive edge. For some, it's been said that the competitive edge then is the use of drugs. If we look back at the purpose for health, welfare, educational enhancement, then the institution has a obligation to do something to minimize or prevent the potential for drug abuse and for illicit types of behaviors. Consequently, we have the establishment of a variety of drug programs. They have the education, we have consent form where they agree to participate. And part of the agreement to participate is an agreement to participate in drug tests, coupled with this then are programs where if the person tests positive, there is a retest. And if the retest is also positive then there's is some kind of a counseling or education or drug abuse treatment program. And there should be then some kind of follow up with this. Now to have the privacy invoked, there has to be some kind of reasonable expectation of privacy. I have to be able to reasonably expect that I am a private person. What I do in my own home is private so long as it stays in my own home and I don't beat my wife or my children, okay? But as soon as I leave the home, this right to privacy becomes reduced. Privacy means that liberty is not guaranteed absolutely against deprivation, but only against deprivation without some kind of due process or due cause. With the drug testing programs where we have consent, and the kids know that either in high school they're gonna be tested or they know that in college that the NCAA is going to require it. The conference might require it. The school might require it. And for them to participate, then they must be consenting to the drug testing. In the NCAA for example there's a random test throughout the year, and then after each post season or the championship competition, there's drug testing of the team. You know going into the program, that that's what's involved. You don't have to enter the program, you can say I choose not to participate in interscholastic athletics. That's no different than being ineligible for other reasons, is it? If you don't make the required grade point average and ACT, what happens to you and participation in athletics, proposition 48, you don't get to participate for a year. If you don't maintain your grade point average throughout the competitive season, what happens? You're suspended or terminated from the team. If you refuse to wear safety equipment, you're thrown out of the game. If you break rules, you're not allowed to participate. So, drug testing, looking at it this way as a part of the integral part of the program it is devised for the health, welfare and safety of the students, seems to fit within the constitutional gambit. If we look at employers, employers also have a reasonable expectation that their employee will show up in good shape and will do reasonable work. Drug testing then is another condition of employment for an employer-employee relationship, just as proper equipment, use of safety equipment, use of tools. There are some conditions when public welfare is at stake. If we look at the transportation industry, such as bus drivers, railroad, pilots, we have a concern of Congress, which is twofold. One; to make laws relative to the public welfare. And second for control of commerce. As I mentioned, liberty is not guaranteed absolutely. It's only against deprivation without due process. And when we talk about the public good, then we're talking about establishment of ordered responsibilities. People are put on notice, and part of the due process is notice of this situation. I'm gonna stop right here I think about running out of time. I have a little bit to respond to Pat and since he's had all my notes for two days, he's loaded.\r\n\r\n- Where we're... We're building in rebuttal. John's going to get, I get to rebut what he says, and then he gets to rebut what I've said and am gonna rebut again what he says and sometimes it gets some questions in there. If I may refer again to Ramsay Clark's talk last night remember he said he doesn't watch television. And I kind of hung my head when I thought about me and watching all the Cheers reruns and John after listening to your discussion, which I think you did or attempted to portray fairly well the law as you see it, I'm reminded the refrain between Norman Cliff, and Cliff has made one of his idiotic statements. And normally the other people in the bar have given a very cogent, concise argument why Cliff was wrong and it's now Cliff churned to rebut then Cliff turns to Norman and says, well man, you're wrong! What are we saying? Or what is our perception when a person is tested in the workplace or to school and they test positive for drug use? Now that's a whole gamut of things, I'm not giving you the type of test that's been administered. I'm not giving you any of the parameters with it but a person who's tested positive for drugs what does that say to his family, to his coworkers to the general public? It says I'm a drug user. The unfortunate part of drug testing procedures is they may not always tell you or they may not be able to determine number one in fact, was it a drug which John quite appropriately will address later on, that is prohibited from ingestion or use? It doesn't tell you, are you a committed user? Have you been caught on an occasion? All it comes across and says you are a drug user. And I believe that the constitutional application addresses two parts of that. Number one, when you're identified as a drug user through a test, there is a constitutional implication. If we, again, are to refer to Mr. Clark's talk last night, when a person is identified as a drug user, are we to believe that that particular information would not be used or would not be kept by a governmental agency against that particular person? And could that information not later on be used for purposes of search and seizure, or probable cause for later search and seizure? Or indeed self-incrimination? Because drug tests say I'm a drug user. That's what it tells you. The other problem with drug tests is it leaves that lingering perception of drug use. We see that in professional athletics. Ray Tarpon is unfortunately an aggravated scenario with that. Otis Nixon to the Atlanta Braves, all instances of where the lingering perception is that they are drug users and you come to any conclusion you want. In my mind that is the gravity of the problem of drug testing, and as you apply the constitution we've got to remember under the Fourth Amendment, and I'm going to... I'm not gonna read the Fourth Amendment for you, but I do want to paraphrase. The Fourth Amendment says, and drug testing by the way, is lawful under the Fourth Amendment, that says you may not drug... Fourth Amendment says you may not intrude or search and seize without a warrant. What we've done in the area of drug testing as we've done with many of our constitutional applications is we have dismissed the warrant concept saying that you need to go to a neutral magistrate who will determine whether or not there is a reason, in this case to drug tests, and we have watered it down to what I would call two notable exceptions. One is the reasonable suspicion in administrative drug tests. Let's define administrative drug testing meaning that's testing done by your employer or that's testing done by school officials, administrative drug testing. The courts have upheld pretty much the concept of reasonable suspicion if your employer, or if the school officials have reasonable suspicion that a party has used drugs, that party can be tested. That's to grab them and then I'm sure that John can give me some other areas to consider but that really is the problem of that issue. The other thing we've done is that we have looked at the type of industry that you're in and we've said, look, you know, there are such things as closely regulated industries. For our purposes that would mean are there some industries that are so important to our health and welfare that the employees should be drug tested as a matter of general welfare safety? The transportation industry is an example. The fire and police are an example. We came across last night that says, jockeys are an example. People who ride horses, they're an example, you know why? The courts have said that the regulation of horse racing is so important that the expectation of privacy that jockeys have is diminished, and you should have the right because it's a closely regulated industry to go into a drug test. I would pose to you they're gonna do that to athletics. So that's the... They will make the attempt to do that through athletics. I have a tough time discussing with students wherein the terms of national welfare, health and everything else athletic really fits that we can justify the derogation of a constitutional application. The privacy issues under the 14th Amendment. Basically what they're saying is this, like you have an expectation of privacy under the 14th Amendment, and you don't give that up by an unreasonable search or seizure under the Fourth Amendment. If you give up your right to privacy, it's got to be done by a reasonable search and seizure. 14th Amendment privacy expectation issues are number one, type of job. We just talked about closely regulated industry. Are you in an industry that's of such importance under health, welfare, and safety that the employee should expect that drug testing will be done? The second is, and this is where you have most of your challenges is the method of testing. The most noted method of testing and collegiate athletics requires that you urinate while being observed by another person, and in many cases in an unannounced test. Third area of privacy issues deals with, if you have a test of an individual, and that test is positive, what becomes of that information? Who knows that that person has tested positive? Who was supposed to be kept in the know and who's not supposed to know? Those are all very real privacy issues that have been upheld by the courts. That if we go into the concept of, well, all searches and seizures are constitutional or we don't have to deal with a strong area of warrant or why it was issued, that we have trampled on those three areas. Finally, I'd like to talk about the issue of consent. I frankly don't differ with John on consent. I'm of the belief that there are certain industries and there are certain areas of our endeavor where if you are fully advised of your rights, and if you are fully advised of the consequence of your failure to agree to a drug test, in a school setting or in a job setting, and if you understand all the rights and consequences there under, that then when you give your consent you've probably given it voluntarily. The problem is that in many of the consents that we both examined and agreed to those protections aren't there. We talked about one consent form where if you remember John what it noted, noted at one item the information derived from this drug test will not be given to anybody. No, I have it wrong. It said the drug... We have the right to give the information from this drug test to anybody we see fit. That's the gravity of it. Then a couple of pair of paragraphs down it says, however, we're going to keep it confidential. And then the culminating phrase was, however in any event you can't sue us for giving the information out. That is not a voluntary consent. That is not in my mind, what's protected under the Fourth Amendment. We both also discussed and agreed that a consent form that was utilized by a big 10 university when it tested its athletes noted what the athlete got was rules and procedures, one, two or three pages and then it got a separate page that was the actual consent form, meaning I agreed to this condition. The condition said, in the one-page consent form, in consideration for the opportunity to participate in intercollegiate athletics at the big 10 university, I am entering into the terms of this consent and authorization, period. The athlete is said right there I will, in consideration for a right to play agree to be drug tested. What we found is that the policy that was set with the consent noted under a section B, which I assume or hope that the athlete read that the refusal to provide a urine specimen will be considered a positive test result. When the athlete signed the consent form, what did the athlete agree to? I agree to take the drug test so I can participate in athletics. Did the athlete agree in the consent form and understand that if he doesn't take the test, not only can't you play athletics, but we are going to consider your refusal as a positive test result and my question is who gets that information? Whether or not you took it, it goes down as a positive test results. We need to be cautious when we talk or when we generalize about the areas of privacy, and when we generalize about the areas of due process, because I'm of the belief that you can establish the basis for drug testing, but it's only now that we're starting to realize all the constitutional implications under Fourth and 14th Amendment. John now gets a short period to rebut me and, you know, take that for it's worth, while now I'm, you're on. .\r\n\r\n- You know what they said about the Smothers brothers, mother was loved me more than you. So, you can pick out which ones, which... you know it's a interesting path that you just suddenly realized that we live in an imperfect world. If we had a perfect world we wouldn't really need courts. So, we have to do the best we can in these imperfect situations. That's why courts are here to look at the imperfections and to try and convince people, to polish them up and clean them up or to at least point out their wrongdoing so they know what to do. I agree that not all the consent forms and policies and procedures that are followed are necessarily up to muster conflict... constitutional muster but people are beginning to straighten these up and the ones that have been approved are up to muster. I'm a little bit concerned. I can't believe that you actually think that University of Michigan or Toledo when a student test positive is going to have a direct modem link with the Feds, and send this up to the DEA. The programs do indicate that there is a confidential relationship if the person does have a positive test, they're not flagged right away. There is a second test given to check and see if this is indeed positive. If it does turn out that both of them are positive, there is a confidential report to only those that need to know; the athletic personnel that need to know because of the eligibility, and then the person, either a medical doctor or a counselor, who needs to work with them with the drug abuse program. There is confidentiality under those circumstances. That's not information that is given to the federal government or the state government. You raised an interesting point about Tarpley. If you were comparing Tarpley versus John Drowatzky, I'm not sure that the whole world knows John Drowatzky. In fact, I'm not sure that people really care. However, Tarpley is a rather well-known individual. Courts have distinguished the difference between private and public individuals. Private individuals have been treated entirely different with release of information than a public person. When a student is suspended from school or athletic endeavor or whatever, it doesn't say drugging suspended, it says a student may be suspended if it or a person is ineligible for some... And it's usually non-disclosed reason. Consequently I'm not that concerned that the federal government is going to have access to all of these files such as you suggested. As I mentioned we don't live in a perfect world. A person that's going to use drugs is going to go to all kinds of lengths to try and hide the fact that they use drugs. I'm reminded of a story of a fellow that was six foot eight and he weighed about 280 pounds was a power event person. And he was drug-tested. Drug tests are perfectly clean, except there was one little odd thing with this drug test. No drugs, no drugs, just female hormones. It seems that you can buy a package of clean urine for $50 on the open market and they were using catheters. There... How do you prevent these kinds of things? Well, you have to have somebody there to observe the the specimen to make sure that the collection is done as it should. And again, people are told how the collection is going on. There's not an expectation of privacy. When person is warned ahead of time, that it will be known. Prosser, who was been cited by the US Supreme Court said that there are four things which lead to an invasion of privacy. Four manifestations. And I like to just bring these back to your attention. One is intrusion into the plaintiff's seclusion. If you're out playing sports and doing things you're not secluded, you're out in terms of other people. The second is a public disclosure of embarrassing facts. If we don't put out banner so-and-so suspended because of drug use, we're not disclosing these facts. Publicity which places the plaintiff in a false light. Certainly that doesn't apply to this situation either. And finally, appropriation of the defendants name or likeness for some kind of financial and advantage and that's not it either. So, I would say that privacy is not invaded with the drug test, particularly with notice and explanation. You know, for years, what we've been dealing with, practically 200 years with the bill of rights in the constitution, is some kind of a compromise. Rights and responsibility is a two-headed coin. You have certain rights, but your rights end when my rights begin. In society often we'll tolerate intrusions into an individual's privacy under circumstances, similar to this in your analysis, and that's been upheld for a long time. When an individual leaves his home and interacts with other people, then the competing rights of other individuals will collectively take precedence. And as individuals, take precedence. I think that we have adequate protection for the drug testing. It serves an educational and societal function, and that it's not what we need to be concerned with. They need to concern ourselves with making sure all the policies are in line with what has been established.\r\n\r\n- It seems to me that when we talk about our right to privacy as put forth by John, it would be the right to privacy will be objectively evaluated by the governmental agency or by the agency who is doing the testing. And I would pose to you the right to privacy is a subjective test. When they determined that a student was not required to go in on an unannounced test, no knowledge of previous tests, was not required to go in on an unannounced test, stripped to the waist down while being observed and give his urine, I would pose to you that the reason the court dismissed that particular test was they said, subjectively how does that student feel when called upon to urinate? Where do you urinate? No, do it in the hallways. Why do we have the concept of toilet facilities in the first place? The right to privacy is a very subjective thing. The concept and term expectation of privacy refers to what do you, as the citizen have, in terms of expectation? So, John and I basically will agree that if there is an unannounced test and if it is done in an appropriate procedure, that the breath testing is probably a reasonable search and seizure, but where we disagree, it seems to me is the part that says that expectation of privacy guaranteed under the Fourth Amendment, I would pose as a subjective matter, not an objective matter. I don't wanna play the boogeyman with where the information goes. I, for those of us who were products of the sixties we tried that game and lost. The question isn't will the government get the information? The question isn't whether the DEA will get the information. The question under right to privacy is who within the university family has access to that information? The courts aren't looking to say, well, it's all right as long as the police don't have it, the courts are looking at who within your school or who within the workplace has it. Does your coworker know that you tested positive for drugs? That's an expectation that you have a right to. That's your right to privacy, that your coworker doesn't know I tested positive for drugs. So I'm not quite as scared about the police or the government is I'm worried about my next door neighbor. And under our interpretation, I am constitutionally guaranteed the right to privacy that my neighbor won't know that because that's my expectation, the right to privacy. Haven't contrasted probably rather flamboyantly some of the differences we have. We wanna close before we open for questions with some issues we do agree upon, and concerns that we do share both about methods, processes and areas of drug testing. And I do have to defer to the scholar and this one there's probably no one better who can sum it up.\r\n\r\n- One of the reasons that we looked at sport rather than some, than just say, the ability to stay in school is that the court has distinguished between privileges and rights. Education has been defined as a property right, that once you provide it for anybody you have to provide the same kind of thing for everybody in consequently, while you may be able to expel somebody permanently from a private school, you cannot do so from a public school. Because a public school has to be there for everybody. You can have temporary suspension such as two weeks. Extracurricular activities such as sports have been viewed by the court as a privilege rather than a right. Even though some people would say it's my right to try and get a good paying job in the NFL or the NBA, or whatever, the courts have consistently said that this is a privilege. And so it falls under a little bit different gambit, than what you see with a fundamental right. There are a couple of things that we want to do. We were trying to work out a way to stimulate your thought and to frame some arguments, particularly because of things that we see in the future. Before I get into that, anybody read the USA Day today? Yesterday there was an article in about Albertville and it was a chilling aftermath of cold medicines and they went through the number of cold medicines that if you take, you will end up positive. So you may not want to take these before you go on a drive. Sudafed, Dress Stan, Sine X, Formula 44, NyQuil nighttime cold medicine, Flora triathlon, there's a lot of them. And if you look at the International Olympic Committee or NCAA or any of these, there's lists of hundreds of substances that are banned. And so these things then may not be banned, but they give either precursors or substances that would be banned. Well, what about the reliability and precision of the test? The most frequently used test is the cheapest test. When we start talking about testing hundreds of times at an institution or thousands of times across the country, we're talking about a lot of money. The cheapest test is not the most reliable test. Your analysis that is most commonly used will give a lot of false positives, and it will also give a lot of false negatives. What about the people that are positive but have a false negative and are never picked up? If we start talking about drug tests that will accurately predict these things or pick out these things, we're talking about expensive, expensive testing. What is the role of the reliability precision and cost factor when we're dealing with drug tests? We look at other things that are coming on. If you've been following the news, there are a lot of diseases or conditions now that have been picked up through genetic testing, and muscular dystrophy as an example, manic depression with mental illness. How about if we give a genetic test at the time the child is born to see if there any of these conditions, or once you reach your first employment to see if there's any of these conditions? And your insurability is based upon pre-existing conditions, right? What the... What happens if we go to genetic testing to determine the presence or absence of things that may cost and your insurability or inability to get insurance or a job or whatever? Or even closer to home, what about HIV today? What if everybody has to undergo a mandatory HIV? HIV doesn't really raise concern until somebody comes down with the symptoms of AIDS, right? What's the biggest age group that's coming down with AIDS? It's 20 to 30 years of age group. When does that mean that the HIV virus was positive, was present? It means in the teens. What do we do with the ability to test HIV and other things? Most drug problems are not with athletes. If you look at the incidents of drug problems, athletics, particularly at the NCAA and high school level is really a very small problem. There are far more drug problems among the recreational bodybuilders than there are among athletes. There are far more drug problems among the general population of students than there are among athletes. Most institutions today have rather intensive and pretty effective drug programs with their athletes but these don't exist for regular students or recreational athletes or lifters. What kind of obligations are there for that? Should all students be tested? If we're testing athletes should everybody in university be tested? Should there be a universal drug program? Well, these are things that we'd like you to think about, and we've tried to stimulate some thoughts by taking two different approaches, that we found out that on the way over here we really didn't have that much to disagree with, so we had to work very hard on trying to set to two extreme things. We'll answer questions that you might have about our presentations, about the current laws. And I'd like to give one plug here, Dr. Gary. Gray is the editor of a journal here Legal Aspects of Sport. And this happened to be an issue that I guess is why I got here. 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grades, you have to have, good things, you have to have, whatever other things you've. The last one is like where do we draw the line you know, like and where can they, coz it's almost like, you're forced to on site. You're treated, it's almost like you're bribed into doing it. Your chain track, you can't play sports unless you do this.\r\n\r\n- Everybody heard the question He's asking can you equate drug testing and resulting eligibility with the same as passing grades and eligibility that'd be a fair paraphrasing?\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- There are a couple of situations. So California is unique. That's the only state in the union today where they have banned drug testing. And that is not because of a federal constitution issue, but because of the way that the California state constitution is written with regard to privacy. So that's a state issue. So it's illegal to test for drugs in California but if you're at Berkeley or Stanford or UCLA you can't participate in NCAA things unless you are drug tested. So the universities can't do it, but by consent then the the other agencies can. Other than that the courts have reasonably consistently held that it is indeed a privilege and that that's no more of a penalty than poor grades or anything else. They've, equated it right in there with a violation of university rules or team rules or, or whatever.\r\n\r\n- I like to point out that there's an obvious difference in the terms of what triggers the privilege. Good grades or remaining eligible, under the grading process does not require a fourth amendment constitutional issue. Drug testing is a little more severe obviously and its application to the individual. John does portray that fairly well though but I would caution you again. And this is an area that we've talked about quite frankly. I believe to a great extent schools rely on the concept, where we and I would say before, I'm willing to appoint. That eligibility can be based on such a privilege. You have a right to really look at what you have consented to and not to an anomaly. For example I would like to show The consent is there, If you have reasonable that condition.\r\n\r\n- we both agreed that if the consent form has done well that and that the policies and procedures of the institution must comply with the consent. It sound ludicrous to say failure to comply is guilt. We looked at long time ago but that they'd be much more reasonable to say if you don't comply with it, don't participate. But let's say that that's viewed a deposit test is sort of stupid.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to ask you to kind of look into the future maybe 10 or 15 years and give us your best guess on this. A court in Montana recently, through a drug test on the basis that the state stayed active and the university really didn't have a probable cause or the right to search and seize the urine test, partially based upon the argument. Look, this is only sports and games. As the judge said, this is not a big deal. This is not airline pilots, trained engineers, transportation, public safety. This is some university students getting together and playing some games. In other words, there's really not a justifiable need there. And you raise a good issue John about the, the problem probably is greater among perhaps not athletes or in work force or whatever. So what do you suppose to be looking at 10 or 15 years from now in terms of say university saying, well, we're not just concerned about the health and wellbeing of our athletes, but of all our students and faculty. I mean, after all, we want faculty who are focused on their jobs and if they're using drugs that presumably that's going to have some effect in terms of the way they do their job or maybe not even being able to come to work. Do you think we're looking down the road to the two other non-athlete groups at a state university being drug tested but those arguments are just pursued\r\n\r\n- You may recall a brief I gave on what we call the closely regulated industry. In my point at that point was it's very difficult for me to put any form of athletics in the area of a closely regulated industry. Meaning that if you play at rate you should have a diminished to privacy. I can't really take that serious. I think the problem we face in sport is the sport tends to take itself too seriously. I'm not here coming out of the department of sport management communication saying you know for what its worth, we take ourselves very seriously. And the reason that John had posed to you at the end of his discussion that frankly we can cite few studies that show drug use among athletes is less than the general population. Why do we care about Reggie Clark asked us last night? What do we care about? Why do we care about that? And why is that to pose That is that posted regulated industry. You got to worry about. And whose statistics say that drug use is a that group, as opposed to the other group, your question becomes very much more important. in the workplace. If I am a private employee, I essentially have no right. There is a Commonwealth privacy, but I can think of two instances where if an employee was found was tested and found positive in the drug test and let's say privacy was violated before they can fire him anyway, because the employee is an at-will employee. That reminded me last night. And we were discussing The person and the private employee has a much greater impact on what we need to address in this, and the next 15 years . Under public employees we have the same scenario. In fact, our general student population has a higher drug use than our athletes. Then the next 10 or 15 years. And now in short answer your question, needs a complete redirection on how we look and where we focus drug testing. Why won't we do it? Just re recent John said it's expensive to do it correctly. In athletics, we do it with fairly unreliable tests. They are Inexpensive. Can you imagine what it's going to cost that we say that he would focus on the general population? I mean to do it right. I'm not very hopeful in the next 10 to 15 years that we're going to focus\r\n\r\n- I think athletics have brought it on themselves. through big business. I think that's, that's the key is to become big business regardless of what you think about him. Sometimes Bobby Knight is, I think is right. For example, he said, he felt that the thing is overblown that what we should do is have all the college basketball games begin at seven o'clock in the evening. So they're done at a reasonable hour. The kids can go to bed and calm down go to bed. Latter on the weekends that they should not play at your seven o'clock at night. But think of the TV. We have games. I can watch games at home from beginning at 7:30 on Monday night and then 9:30 and then midnight, Suppose there's something after midnight if I really wanted to watch it, that's really an exploitation of the athletes but why are they exploited? They're exporting because of money. Athletic departments are And that's what's brought the testing. It's a commerce. It's, just like anything else. And we really don't even have a unified thing with commercials athletics, because some of them are antitrust regulated. Some of them don't fall under the trust. But yet differences between the way that baseball and football and basketball are all handled. There's not even a commonality amongst the the handling of professional sport.\r\n\r\n- You know what occurs to me if I get asked, well We've had to think that drug issues are becoming the past. When we look at HSB and genetic testing and the things are coming down. I don't have many. She holds who presentation say, Hey this is really worthless topic Because the testing and the constitutional safeguards are important themself. But when you talked about the employer Gary and where we would go 15 years or we talk about the student, let's talk about alcohol. Ad have we really reacted in the workplace to alcohol? I think there were some move in the workplace rather than firing and excluding, we are becoming a little more likely to say maybe we should provide rehabilitation. I would tell you that if the employer, the private employer non public non state employer provides an unannounced random drug test and you test positive but the result is you will be put in rehabilitation counseling. says you don't have a constitutional challenge here. Even though because you're not being suspended. You are not being charged. to do that. We can't, a frame testing for drug in terms of suspension and turn it. That's what the constitution Did you see in the next 10 or 15 years? Us, we become more widened in how we're going to deal with alcohol in the workplace and in the employment place. And if we can say, yes, we do, then there is hope in the next 10, 15 years for the other of testing. I would pose. If we don't become more light than that area do not extend it 15 years\r\n\r\n- Some institutions report that the maybe as high as 80% of the students have some kind of alcohol abuse problems, whether it's binge drinking on the weekend or whatever, as opposed to alcoholic. If we look at the dollars the costs in terms of accidents missed work and so forth we're talking about the things that are far more expensive than dealing with the drug testing here. The constitutional issues kick in when you lose something. And as Pat said if you put people into rehabilitation program, if you keep it confidential and don't spread it to world I don't think that any court is going to say that you even even have a testimony.\r\n\r\n- What I was trying to get of course--\r\n\r\n- 20 minutes we had, we got what you asked\r\n\r\n- I was speculating you know when they were university might say, with tremendously increase healthcare costs and insurance programs and everything, why don't we simply drug test all faculty and all sorts and not allow not hire faculty who smoked bear on 66, six, 2020 couple of weeks ago. The private employer fired one of his employees for smoking at a restaurant at noon hour and was legitimately able to do that. And I'm just trying to put that over to the public sector. Now, we clearly are talking about state actor of the university. And all under the guise, I suppose and insurance costs and all of that.\r\n\r\n- That's what I was trying to go with the genetics. There are a numbers of people around that have been let loose from jobs because either they or their spouse or their kids have had high medical costs and to bring the cost down where the institution or the employer could afford to pay for them they have simply fired them at well. And what if you have this information before you're even employed via genetic testing. The potential for abuse at hand impact I think is really something we need to be aware of now. They come up with new types of tests every day on the identification of genetic or other problems.\r\n\r\n- The problem I have, because it's constitutional because I don't want to pay a higher insurance premium. Employees should mandate testing of whatever form I hate to go back to Mr. Clark's speech again. What did he pose that he posed that the problem that we face is that we are a based, on issues of wealth. And that would be, I need to say that she was pretty good, or we need that here. I have a real problem that we would, and I would look at it just that regard. We mandated that we needed sole right to privacy plus this much in healthcare. I'm not here to make that train.\r\n\r\n- We're already doing that in a sense, because if you have pre existing condition, they don't cover it, right? If you have mental illness most policies will limit you to 45 days and then you're in, then you're out. So they're looking at the big costs. Now what's going to happen today is that's a real expensive.\r\n\r\n- Its incidentally for drugs, that help athletes,\r\n\r\n- They have a series of categories. And let me just give you a flavor here. One of them is psychomotor and central nervous system including such things as caffeine depending on the level of caffeine, anabolic steroids. As you mind, my suspicion, diuretics, weight loss for the rest of the test sample. Sympathomimetic which are calm you down, kind of things. Substances related to specific sports. For example, if you're into riflery or something like that and you take alcohol or things to slow down the heartbeat so you can squeeze it off in between, and then you have your street drugs such as heroin, marijuana crack. So they've got essentially six different categories that they tested. If you go to, if you want to look the NCAA manual they've got a list of specific substances but this is a small We're talking about pages and they listed by drugs, street names, pharmaceutical names--\r\n\r\n- next page guys","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42887/file/115476#t=0.0,987.264"}]}]}]}