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that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2712.71,2715.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do not believe that they have more,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2715.16,2719.123"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't believe that they will accept any treaty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2720.62,2722.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that will guarantee Nicaragua's continued existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2722.38,2726.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so it becomes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2726.53,2728.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and here is where the intellectual poverty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2728.43,2733.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of our approach comes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2733.12,2734.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's terribly difficult to say to a country,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2734.3,2739.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"We're out to overthrow your government.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2739.937,2742.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then to cry about the fact","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2742.7,2746.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that they are seeking weapons from our enemies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2746.31,2748.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that is a certain illogic in that approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=2748.91,2753.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204/transcript/31292/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whereas if you would simply test the 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And I would like to introduce to you Ambassador Robert Edward White, our guest tonight, who's, has been an ambassador to two Latin American countries, Paraguay and El Salvador. He is a graduate of Saint Michael's College in Vermont and holds a master's degree from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. In 1952, he received a Fulbright Scholarship to study in England. During his twenty-fourth year Foreign Career, Mr. White specialized in Latino American Affairs with a particular emphasis on Central America. He also hold post in the Peace Corps and he was the deputy permanent representative to the Organization of American States, and he was a president, a especial representative to the Inter-American Conference of Education, Science and Culture. In February 1981, the Reagan administration removed Ambassador White from his post in El Salvador, and forced him to retire from the Foreign Service. Mr. White has recently been appointed to the Walburg chair of International Relations at Simmons college in Boston. And he's also serving as senior fellow with the Center for Development Policy in Washington D.C. I would like to think, and that's what it is. welcome to Iowa State university.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, it's a great pleasure to be at Iowa State University. And I'm truly excited at the program that the Institute on World Affairs has prepared for you. I think it's a real contribution to the understanding of the problems of Central America, an understanding which is vital, for if we are to relate to Central America in a more intelligent and humane way. Now, what I would like to do this evening is talk to you about sort of what our policy has been towards Latin America, look at central America quickly, use El Salvador for the sort of case study. Talk a couple of minutes about current events and then go to questions. If you asked me to sum up what United States Foreign Policy has been towards Latin America since World War II I would sum it up in the phrase, Fear of change. We have been so petrified, that change would bring advantage to our enemies and disadvantage to ourselves. That we have connived with corruption, we've participated in the perversion of the democratic process and we have violated solemn treaty agreements. Now there were two honorable exceptions to this unfortunate destiny. The Alliance for Progress under John F. Kennedy, which for all its many sins, at least grasped that essential point, that those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable. And the Foreign Policy of president Carter and his emphasis on human rights, which again for all the irregularities and the way that it was administered still gave those of us in the field, working in these countries, a tool with which we could distinguish between the dictator who was anti-communist only because this made him eligible for United States assistance, without which he could never have stayed in power and between authentic democratic leaders who were also anti-communist, but who shared some of the values that you and I share. And I think it's worth noting before an Iowa audience, that really the person who introduced human rights into the legal structure of the United States Foreign Policy, was your newly elected Senator, Tom Harkin. Now you can date all of central American history from the overthrow of the tyrant Somoza in Nicaragua in 1979. And Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick draws one lesson from the fall of Somoza and I draw another. The lesson which she draws is that, as right-wing dictatorships are friendly to the United States and as left-wing revolutionary governments are unfriendly to the United States, then it becomes the highest priority for the United States foreign policy, to maintain the dictator in power. The lesson which I draw, is that the longer outside force and power is used to maintain a dictator in power, then the more radical is going to be the population and the more anti-American the government which succeeds it when the inevitable day comes and the dictator falls. So obviously the secret there is to not to support dictators in the first place and let the natural political forces work. Now we'll look at El Salvador. And while I'm acutely conscious of the differences either the El Salvador of today was the Nicaragua of yesterday and it could be anyone of the other central American States tomorrow. And there are four actors in the Salvadoran drama. There's the rich and the poor, the military and the church. And traditionally the rich have run El Salvador and the military have administered the country and for their benefit, for the benefit of the rich. And the role of the church was to counsel the poor to wait for their reward the next time around. Now all of that changed in 1968, when the bishops of Latin America met at Medellín Columbia and drafted in effect a new charter for the church in Latin America. And here's where they came up with phrases such as The Preferential Option For The Poor. And you can sum up, I suppose Medellín, in the phrase that Pope Paul used when he said that the poor of Latin America have a right, not only to participate in the fruits of the society, but also in the direction of that society. And so when the church in El Salvador began to preach, not revolution, not class struggle, not overthrow of government, but dialogue, communications, some beginnings on a just society. The poor, the second actor, responded in what I considered to be a positive and healthy way. They began to form labor unions, campesino organizations, Christian based communities, design to change the present reality and to give them a greater stake in the society and a greater direction in that society. All within the bounds of constitutionality. The rich, the third actor, also heard the new teaching of the Catholic church, but with alarm and horror. And they immediately qualified the leaders of these new movements as Marxist, as communists, as purveyors of exotic doctrines, as they say in Spanish. And they, when warnings did not work, they sent the security forces in to do their traditional job, which was to literally decapitate the leaders of the new movement. And so legitimate labor leaders had to go underground. And this is the origin of your urban revolution in El Salvador. And prime persecution inside San Salvador, forced these leaders out of San Salvador into the countryside and the security forces went in and burned villages. At this point, many of the organized villages as they were called, simply picked up and moved back into the forest and into the mountains. And this is really, and they began to fire back. They acquired weapons some of them from Cuba, they acquired training in Cuba. And so you began to have an international dimension to the revolutionary movement in El Salvador. Although the whole point of my statement here is that, the revolution in El Salvador was homegrown and authentic and would exist whether the Soviet Union or Cuba existed or not. Now the fourth actor, the military, have ruled El Salvador for the last 50 years. Whether they still rule El Salvador, is a question that's fascinating. The evidence is that they probably do, but there is at least given the presidency of Napoleon black day, at least some possible change. Now something happens to a country when the institutions or when the political institutions are so completely dominated by what one group. The only reason that you or I participate in politics is in order to influence events, in order to gain some access to power. And if power is routinely denied to you, then political institutions become beside the point. And this is what happened in El Salvador. As there was no chance of taking power, political parties shriveled and dried up. The same thing is true of the judicial system. If no rich person is ever tried for any crime and if rough justice is minted out to the poor, either through a gun bat or a gun battle, depending upon the seriousness of the charge, then while you still have judges and you still have court rooms, the whole judiciary becomes irrelevant. And this is what happened in El Salvador until one by one, all the institutions which normally distinguished a civilized society, simply had no relevance, no meaning anymore. And by the late 1970s, there were only two institutions that mattered in El Salvador, the military and the church. Now this interaction of these four actors, all took place against the backdrop of United States power. United States power is a reality in Central America, and it plays a role in the internal dynamics of these societies. Those of us who served in Central America as Foreign Service officers, during the 1960s and 1970s, some of us sent back with great frequency reports that stated that the people who stood for change in central America, were not enemies of the United States. Then indeed, most of those new democratic leaders had drawn their inspiration from our institutions and from the writings of our political thinkers. But just as fast as we recommended the, and some identification with the forces of change and less identification with a brutal and corrupt status quo, a one administration after another would find some reason to identify with the military and the rich. And in El Salvador I suppose, the high point of this was in 1972, when through slackness on the part of the military and greed and laziness on the part of their civilian adepts, their helpers, the ticket of Napoleon Duarte and today president of the government and president of the gorillas, ran on the same ticket for president and vice-president and won. And Duarte came into power and all the United States had to do all the Nixon administration had to do, was send the ambassador over to shake hands. And instead we let it be known that we preferred the military and a coup took place and Duarte was exiled for the next seven years. And you had to pick one week when the best and brightest of El Salvador lost faith in the democratic system and preferred the route of revolution, you probably could pick Easter week of 1972. And many young Salvadorans, thought they saw something racist in the United States attitude. It was as if we were saying that democracy is fine for blonde blue eyed people, but the central Americans are not quite up to it. And of course the fact is the central Americans are perfectly capable of democracy what they're not capable of is achieving democracy if the United States, the greatest democracy in the world, opposes democracy and central America. And unfortunately this has been our, and is again our attitude. Now, things went from bad to worse in El Salvador until by 1979, the country was in a practical state of anarchy. And it was a revolution by young officers who invited in to the government revolutionaries, progressive businessmen, professors, all the best of El Salvador. And they issued a manifesto which described the reality of the country in terms far harsher than I've used here this evening. And they began a program to nationalize the lands, the banks, the export sector and other reforms. And this is more or less the time that I appeared on the scene in El Salvador with instructions from president Carter to emphasize human rights, to back reform and to support any attempts at reconciliation, because we were quite clear that up until that time, and unfortunately up until today, there's only one model in Latin America for change, for profound change, that's the Cuban model. And our objective was to demonstrate to the young of Latin America, that you didn't have to go to Moscow or Havana for understanding and support of profound change that you could find that understanding and support in Washington. And so whether this new program of support for change succeeded is something we will never know because it was cut short. All we can say is that there were certain changes and they were three attempts by the extreme light to overthrow this reform government. For the first time in the history of Central America, the United States embassy was the scene of violent protests and attempted takeovers, not from the extreme left, but from the extreme right. Bearing signs that Cedric Carter was a communist and white was a communist. And unfortunately this is how you know when you're making some progress in Latin Americans. When they describe you as a communist. Now, there is such a thing as the National Security of the United States. And I think that every president has a right to look at central America and say, \"What, how can I apply the power of the United States \"in a legitimate positive way \"to enhance the security of the American people \"and the people of Central America?\" President Carter chose the way of emphasizing human rights, reform and reconciliation. As this program was moving along with great problems, but the Reagan administration came in and changed this program dramatically. In his first press conference, then Secretary of State Alexander Haig stated that counter terrorism would take the place of human rights as a priority in the United States foreign policy. Reform was pushed down into the bureaucracy and forgotten and reconciliation was explicitly rejected, a military victory sought and in pursuit of that illusion, we sent in unlimited military equipment and military advisers with totally predictable results. A revolutionary movement that never numbered more than three to 4,000 and never occupied even one town for more than 24 hours. Today numbers according to the Kissinger commission, 15,000 and controls approximately 25% of the country. Now how do we explain this constant reversion to primitive policies that emphasize military might to address problems that the politically, economic and social in nature? The only thing that I can come up with is that the United States has Subscribed to a all-purpose undifferentiated simplistic anti-communism, which divides the world into two and says that any change in the part of the world where the United States has been traditionally dominant, isn't that lost to the United States and a net gain for the Soviet union. And of course if you totally mis-analyze the problem, the chances of hitting on the right solution are diminished and this indeed is the case that we have today, because apparently in some kind of mystery to some of our leaders in Washington that injustice and brutality and hunger and lack of participation in the society leads to discontent, which leads to anger fury and finally, that fury overflows into revolution. Now how will I define the security of the United States and Central America? I think it's very simple to define. The exclusion of Soviet and Cuban troops and basis from the area. And that is clearly realizable to us through the content or treaty, draft treaty, proposed by Mexico, Panama, Colombia, and Venezuela. Instead of following this common sense method recommended by all the democratic leaders of the Western world, the United States has instead chosen to mine the harbors of Nicaragua to draft CIA manuals instructing former members of the Somoza national guard and how to assassinate officials and how to produce much. It really is a source, to me at least a great shame to the United States is violating international law, breaking solemn treaty agreements in order to achieve by bloodshed a result that's easily achieved through negotiation and diplomacy. We've just recently had the spectacle of a barrage of propaganda out of Washington stating that a Soviet ship was carrying MIGS. I was invited to appear on television program and I stated at categorically that there were no MIGS going to Nicaragua. Now, how did I do that? I didn't have any inside information. But I knew simply that when the foreign minister of Nicaragua stands up and categorically denies it, that even though I don't necessarily trust the foreign minister of Nicaragua, but I know how foreign ministers conduct themselves when they have a problem, because if he had had, if there had been any MIGS on that, he would have begun his statement by saying that Nicaragua is a sovereign country, that we're under attack. That we have the right to receive any kind of weapons that we want and whether or not there are MIGS on that vessel are matters solely between the Soviet Union and Nicaragua. But I cannot believe that the United States government could not have exercised some restraint, some measure of prudence, in the way they presented this problem to the world. Instead we gave every evidence of trying to create a pretext for intervention. And I just put it out, put it to you that, that is not the way a great power conducts itself responsibly. If we have a problem with Nicaragua, then we should discuss it and work it out. And it seems to me that all the evidence we have is that Nicaragua is willing to sign on the dotted line. Whether or not they are sincere or not is something we don't know but we should at least test that. If they produce, if they prove to be insincere and duplicitous, then we always have other means available too. But my belief is that the real fear of the Reagan administration is not that Nicaragua will identify with the Soviet Union and Cuba. I think the real fear of the Reagan administration is that Nicaragua will not identify with the Soviet union and Cuba, because if they, if the Sandinistas prove their capacity to carry out a non-aligned independent revolution, then where it goes the pretext for the Reagan administration to intervene in the internal affairs of other countries in Central America. I do wanna mention the Kissinger report. And while I wouldn't wish it on anyone but a specialist, reading the entire report is difficult and time consuming. I don't know if Henry Kissinger is a great writer or not but I can tell you that anyone who reads him is a great reader. In any case the thing to note about the Kissinger report is that, it lays out the security problem and there hence advocates hugely increased military assistance solve the problem. Yet nowhere in the report, is there any analysis of what the United States does if increased military assistance doesn't accomplish the end that Henry Kissinger wants accomplished. Now when you think of it, that's a startling omission from the self-confessed finest foreign policy mind of our time. No analysis at all about what we do if military assistance doesn't work and all the evidence we have is that military assistance will not work. So instead of following a diplomatic route to achieve limited objectives, United States has turned the country of Honduras into an aircraft camp from which counter revolution is launched against Nicaragua and against the revolutionaries and El Salvador, again running the risks of a regional war. So to sum up to the people of Central America, who thought that any administration of the 1980's, would do all that it could to diminish differences between and among the States of Central America and would do everything it could to advance the political, economic, and social progress of Central America. The people of Central America see us as having placed brother against brother, family against family, and working to overthrow governments and may overthrow progressive governments and maintain military anti-popular governments in power. And to the leaders, the democratic leaders of Western Europe and Latin America, who thought that the United States had finally learned its lesson, that counter revolution is not an adequate answer to our people caught up in that terribly difficult and delicate transition from one stage of political development to another. These democratic leaders see us as having responded to the tragic and complex to them of Central America with simplistic bombast and big stick diplomacy. Thank you. I'm glad to answer any questions that you may have.\r\n\r\n- Can I get that?\r\n\r\n- Could you consider the invasion of Nicaragua imminent?\r\n\r\n- Do I consider the invasion of Nicaragua imminent? No, I don't believe that the Reagan administration has taken any decision to invade Nicaragua. I think though that there's a sort of consensus, there's a consensus that I think, that the Sandinista government has to go. And I hinted what you will see is them taking one step after another, heightening the pressure on the Sandinistas, but none of these things achieving the desired result. And so by the logic of our own rhetoric and our own actions eventually I believe will be driven to using combat troops in Central America. Because to me it's impossible for the president of United States to define erroneously in my opinion, Central America has been within the vital interest of the United States. And then note a vital interests mean anything, that needs to go to war with, means your existence is jeopardized by a situation. But the speech writers now, write presidential speeches on diplomacy, not people trained in the use of of these phrases. There are important interests at stake in Central America, they're not vital, but and they could be our interests could be safeguarded through treaty arrangements, but I believe this most ideological of administrations will not rest until they have changed the situation in Nicaragua, in South America and set the permissible limits of the political spectrum, which main from extreme right to center, but they will not, I think permit, or they will try not to permit the continued existence of a violently revolutionary anti-American government.\r\n\r\n- Could you identify the interest that you think they're at stake the U.S. interest in Central America and specifically could you say whether you believe they include U.S. business interest?\r\n\r\n- Define the interests of the United States and central America. Do they include business interests? Right, they're are really very few interests of the United States in Central America, if you use the traditional lexicon of security and there is no strategic materials in Central America. It's true that they are located on sea lanes, but anytime anyone talks about sea lanes, I think they really have a 19th century mentality. I just don't believe that sea lanes are any kind of a real problem in the 20th century. so I think that the real point is that the Central America is close to us and it's an area that is up until the Nicaraguan revolution was free of Soviet and Cuban representatives of power, I'm talking now about military. Now there are a certain number, the CIA says 2000, it's probably seven or 800 Cuban troops in Nicaragua. But I think it's legitimate for us to have as an objective, the exclusion of the all those troops from Nicaragua and I think Nicaragua's indicated they're willing to send these troops home if we will also refrain from building bases, and putting our military into Central America, which seems to meet a deal that we should cease. Regarding U.S. business interests, it's a factor, but I think it's terribly easy to overemphasize the influence of U.S, the nefarious influence of U.S. business. I have never seen myself that U.S. business interests, think alike, agree on what they'll do. I note that after the Sandinista revolution, the multinational corporations were lined up to sign profitable contracts with the Sandinistas and many of them are still working in Nicaragua. I'm quite aware of the abuses of ITT in United fruit back a few years ago, but I tend to believe that the real fear we have is not from U.S. business. I know, changing continents for a moment, that in Angola the Reagan administration is dedicated to getting Cuban troops out of Angola. And Gulf Oil is saying not so fast. Those are the Cuban troops, they're guarding our refineries and if they leave either their gorillas or our gorillas will blow them up. Now I think that if I were, my own belief is that businessmen are basically pragmatic they'll work with whatever comes along. I think that what we're facing today is a some of our leaders willingness to elevate politics to theology. Qualifying the other side is absolute evil, we as absolute good and therefore we are entitled to do what ever we want. So the absolute good will triumph and absolute evil will perish from the earth. I don't know about you but they scare me greatly. Yes.\r\n\r\n- According to your statement, the revolution in El Salvador more or less the people started to initiate it after 58 however cool the wouldn't you say that the problem begun in 1930s when Paraudo must fear the communist party initiated it, is that true? Like continuing of today and this is not an event that was created by progressive catholic, or groups, organizations within struggle that was led by the radical left in El Salvador and by the communist party for the rest of the year and that the government that is in throne today represents part of Paraudo must leave.\r\n\r\n- No, I think I would profoundly disagree. In this sense, I think that there was an event in the 1930s the Matanza, and I know that Farbuno Marti was a communist. He was really a more than, he wasn't what you caught in my view, he was no disciplined representative Kremlin. I seriously doubt that the Soviet union even knew that Farbuno Marti existed. I think that we are talking about an epoch where being a communist was not all that being different from being a socialist or not all that being different from being something else, just as it was in this country. Then I do not see any evidence between, from the crushing of the peasants revolt, all through the 30s and the 40s I see very little evidence of any true communist movement. What I see is the standard traditional communist party made up of 20 or 30 people receiving subsidies for most countries chief duties was to send telegrams to the people's Congress saying the communist party of El Salvador supports whatever. So I think that the, this idea of continuity from the 30s of the struggle, from the 30s on by the people, I think it would be hard going for a historian to really document that. I think that what you've heard is much more spontaneous, outburst, by people on the El Salvador at various places and various times against injustice. And the things coalesced in the late 1970s due to a variety of factors that I've outlined and I think of all the participants in the new FMLN, I think the communist party was the, is the weakest, was the weakest, and is contributed the least towards this revolutions of success. Yes.\r\n\r\n- After the Reagan administration had represented themselves as the active Contadora process and was in favor of the treaty that had recently been built by Contadora countries and castigated the governor of Nicaragua for not signing it. So the government which is signing in this case the Reagan's administration ask its allies in the region to withhold their signatures and claim that the treaty did not actually cover all of the things that the administration is concerned with such as verification. I wonder if you have looked at the treaty and whether that treaty is any different in terms of liabilities to this countries interest either through other treaties this country has been a party too?\r\n\r\n- The question that talks about Contadora and the Reagan administration's original embrace of Contadora then when Nicaragua, approved Contadora, that's the one I think an all Charity has to be collared one of the clumsiest withdrawals in diplomatic history. When we then rejected Contadora and to the point I figured Nicaraguan said that was a dirty trick to... So I gave up. Here was a government run by 25 to 35 year olds who has been in the mountains of Nicaragua for the last 10 years and they are out generally in the United States and diplomatic niceties it's really a kind of a sad commentary on. But it's not surprising because the state department in my view has very little to do with Central American policy. This is a policy that's almost entirely in the hands of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon and some ideologues in the White House. They are about my, the treaty itself is a perfectly acceptable treaty. If it's certainly a reasonable position for the Reagan administration to say, \"On second reading we find a few problems. \"This doesn't in any way detract \"from our overall acceptance of Contadora \"but we wonder if you would be agreeable \"to changing this or that provision.\" That would have been a perfectly logical way to go about. But I think that the Reagan officials simply, I don't think will ever sign any version of Contadora. And if I were the Sandinistas, what I would do is ask the Reagan administration what they accepted the Contadora in principle, have them write out whatever they want and accept it. Because I really believed it, that's the way to negotiate with the Reagan administration, because I'm convinced that that what you have to do is simply let them write the thing, because then they'll withdraw from that. I do not believe that they have more, I don't believe that they will accept any treaty that will guarantee Nicaragua's continued existence. And so it becomes, and here is where the intellectual poverty of our approach comes. It's terribly difficult to say to a country, \"We're out to overthrow your government.\" And then to cry about the fact that they are seeking weapons from our enemies. I think that is a certain illogic in that approach. Whereas if you would simply test the sincerity and say, \"Look, if you will move the Cubans out, \"then we'll go along.\" The idea, just to last comment. The idea that verification is a real issue, I mean, there's no such thing as secrets in Central America. What the CIA does in the morning, the market women are talking about in the afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120204#t=0.0,2786.736"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=28.8,31.967"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e You said, because Central America has become","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=35.537,38.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not only economically, but culturally dependent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=38.86,41.883"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=43.29,45.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it would therefore be a good thing for Central America","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=45.45,50.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to throw up its own institutions,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=50.71,53.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"its own new institution, new systems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=53.95,58.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I do think, I think that's fine,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=59.34,62.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I'm not sure that you've finished your comment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=62.02,65.303"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e (faintly speaking) The USA,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=67.816,72.466"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have been in Central America all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=72.466,75.966"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our situation with wars, I think (faintly speaking) but,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=77.31,80.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, maybe,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=85.027,86.563"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e another kind of-\nWhy don't you tell me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=88.5,90.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Spanish for two minutes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=90.77,92.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then I'll get to the point, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=92.14,95.141"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205/transcript/31294/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(man speaking in 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Do you think that maybe a different system would be the best for Central America?\r\n\r\n- You said, because Central America has become not only economically, but culturally dependent, on the United States. That it would therefore be a good thing for Central America to throw up its own institutions, its own new institution, new systems. Yes, I do think, I think that's fine, but I'm not sure that you've finished your comment.\r\n\r\n- The USA, have been in Central America all the time. Our situation with wars, I think but, you know, maybe, another kind of-\r\n\r\n- Why don't you tell me in Spanish for two minutes, and then I'll get to the point, go ahead. Si. Okay. Okay , gracias. Okay what he is saying is, that capitalism hasn't worked in Central America, and therefore socialism or even cronyism it's not a bad idea for Central America. Well, it's always difficult for an outsider to prescribe for another culture, another people. I think honestly, that if the people of El Salvador, the people of Nicaragua, want to choose a particular system, that's up to them. I don't see, in all candor, that how the Nicaraguans or how the Salvadorans work out their own national destiny, is of any particular importance to the United States. I do think that it would be wrong to judge capitalism, the democratic capitalism that you have in the United States, and Canada, and Europe, and some of Latin America. By the standards of El Salvador, or Nicaragua, or Guatemala, where you have, I mean, the absolute apotheosis of the worst kind of pirate capitalism that's ever existed in this world. In my opinion, where a handful of people control the economy for their benefit, pay no taxes, and the poor people starve. I don't blame the people of Central America for identifying capitalism as evil. I think that unfortunately, maybe, an enlightened capitalism, that abided by democratic systems. I think that, to me, such a thing is possible, and I only regret that the United States did not in time, use its influence in a legitimate way, to encourage that result. But, I mean, I take your point. I think it's certainly a valid point. I would hate to see, I tell you the truth, I think that there'll be, the people are starving now, I think they'd probably starve even more systematically under socialism and communism, that's just my own view, yes?\r\n\r\n- Dr. White, what's the accuracy of this ? Could you talk a little bit-\r\n\r\n- Oh, that's it, okay. This is an article in \"The Progressive\" by Allan Nairn, an exclusive report on the US role in El Salvador's official terror. Well, I don't know if you really want me to say what I'm going to say, but I'm not, I'm quite skeptical about this article. I think that the article does not prove, its thesis is, that the United States trained death squads, going back into the 1960s. That this was a sort of, thought out plan for the United States, to use, deliberately use terror, working through the intelligence service of El Salvador. I just have to tell you, I think that, I respect Allan Nairn, I think he's done a wonderful job of rooting out and getting a lot of important facts. But, I think that the way he's put 'em together, he sees a continuity, and a long-range plan by the United States, which I don't believe his evidence warrants. I think if the United States did, I know that United States did train many Salvadoran officers, some in intelligence. I know that some of those officers, at sporadically, and starting in 1979, consistently bossed death squats. I do not think you can draw from that the conclusion that the United States government deliberately set in motion death squads. I just think there's a couple of steps missing in that, yes?\r\n\r\n- How likely is it that an US invasion in Nicaragua could mean also, a reason of war, a Salvadoran war, Guatemala, Honduras?\r\n\r\n- How likely would an US invasion of Nicaragua, would it set off a regional war? Well, I think it's quite likely. I think, you know, not long, I first went to Honduras, for example, in 1962. When I went there, there was a great president named, Villeda Morales, and he used to say, Honduras is the country of the three 60s: 60% malnutrition, 60% illiteracy, 60% avoidable deaths. I was back in Honduras earlier this year, and I have to tell you, the misery is more palpable than it was when I first went to Central America. When you talk about, I mean, I asked you to talk about Nicaragua exporting revolution. They're really, not making a great deal of sense, because the material is there for revolution. The oppression, the brutality is there, what's lacking only, and that's the only momentarily, is a match to ignite this. Now, if, I mean, Honduras is now permitting, the government of Honduras is not permitting, its territory to be used as a launching pad for counter revolution against Nicaragua. Clearly, if there's an invasion launched by the United States, it would probably be launched in Honduras. In which case, of course, Nicaragua would be entitled to cross the border into Honduras, and carry out what operations it could militarily get away. I think that the chances of this happening, should that type of invasion take place, are very great. You can also see Costa Rica being involved in the same way, and what would happen of course, is that the inhabitants of Honduras. Not all would, I mean, it would destroy, it would break apart whatever political consensus exists today in Honduras, and fragment and destabilize that party.\r\n\r\n- Guatemala and El Salvador, too?\r\n\r\n- Well, El Salavador's already in a sense, a big danger. Guatemala has taken a rather unusual , Guatemala has supported Contadora, Guatemala military have, I think have learned the value of disassociating themselves with the United States, that's kind of a harsh thing to say. But, I mean, I don't know, I can't, there are so many different scenarios. It's terribly difficult to picture exactly how they would all get into this immediately. There's certainly what you can say is, that there's no need for any such thing. The only thing that would bring about a regional war would be the United States' continued attempts to overthrow the government in Nicaragua. I do not believe, if you mean, I don't not believe that Guatemala would join with the United States in trying to overthrow the government, nor do I believe that Costa Rica would. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Is there way that . Can change our government, Guatemala needs to become more enlightened -\r\n\r\n- You had your chance . I think that, I think that it's part of being such a huge country, that things that happen in foreign countries are almost, by definition, outside, we don't feel them. It doesn't have an impact on us. This is particularly true when you're speaking about Latin America or any place in the third world. I think that the only thing that's going to get the American people angry and excited, even furious, about Central America is going to be when the United States enters a war directly. And then, I think all the organizing that you have done, and all the numbers of groups all around the country, that exist. I think that's when the payoff will come, because at that point, I think the American people are really much more sophisticated about these things. They don't have much information, but they seem to instinctively know that it's an error to send US troops and get them involved in that quagmire of Central America. I think that, the Reagan administration's going to be amazed, if and when they come to that path. And, how widespread and how profound the reaction will be across this country against the use of American troops in the region, yeah?\r\n\r\n- Jesse Helms had been reelected and , made head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the Senate. Do you think will have an impact on the policies in Central America?\r\n\r\n- Well, his impact has already been, he's had a truly negative impact. It was the, I think you can attribute, when the Carter administration was in power, Roberto D'Aubuisson was treated as a pariah. He couldn't come to the United States, we had classified him as a terrorist, which is an understatement. Through the agency of Jesse Helms. This man be was rehabilitated by the Reagan administers, and today he's the second most powerful man, or he runs a political party. And, if it wasn't for intervention by the United States, in the electoral process, he might well have become president. Not because the people had wanted him, but because army officers friendly to him controlled many of the departments in El Salvador. Well, I'm not sure it would be such a great tragedy if Jesse Helms became Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I'd rather have him up there in front , straightforwardly obvious, and have to be accountable, not just for Latin America, but for the whole world. I think that would, I think there's no surer way to expose people like that for what they are, than to force them to deal publicly from a position of strength, of power. What Helms has done, it seems to me, up until now, has used him chairmanship to do a number of things quietly and later disown them. I think as chairman, he couldn't do it quite so effectively. Well, obviously I don't want to see him in that position, but I'm trying to rationalize that possible outcome, yes? Yes?\r\n\r\n- Okay, there was the book published about a year ago called, \"El Salvador: Another Vietnam.\" It happens to be written by one of the . I don't know whether . I'd like to hear your opinion, as to how relations is , between Central American and Vietnam.\r\n\r\n- Well, I believe that there are several analogies between our role in Central America and our role in Indochina. It seems to me that, the first error, the cardinal error is always to, wish reality was something other than it is. That's what got us into trouble in Vietnam. Nobody ever asked the question, which I would have considered , how is it that their Vietnamese fight so much better than our Vietnamese? Well, I think it's about time somebody asked that question about Central America. Why is it that these revolutionaries fight our, to a standstill, our US-trained helicopter, et cetera, troop. Well, I think the answer's obvious. One group is convinced that it's fighting a just war. The other group is fighting to preserve its privileges. Another analogy I would tell you is that, no amount of training is ever going to make effective leaders out of men who have an alternative. The lesson is, that the man with an alternative, always loses to the man with no alternative. If you have, if you become a guerrilla, you have made your last cast, you either win or you die. The Salvadoran military doesn't take many prisons. You quickly train yourself to become effective, or you don't last. In the case of, some of the high-ranking Salvadoran military, many of them have, their families, their bank accounts, their condominiums, outside the country. This is not the stuff of which martyrs are made. When you most need them, they're not going to be there. You can think of certain Vietnamese leaders, who fell under the same classification. But, I think that the primary thing here, which we note time and again, is that the Reagan administration like, several administrations before it in Vietnam, is insisting on its own version of reality. There's the Central America that the Reagan administration sees, and then there's a Central America that everyone else sees. It's got to the point where we've had two CIA highly-regarded, analysts, quit publicly, over the perversion of the intelligence function. Now, this is, truly strikes at our national security, because if a CIA analyst can present and get up to the decision-makers, his cold-blooded analysis of what's going on. If William Casey has the right to send us back, and say, this doesn't conform with what my business friends tell me is happening. Then, this country is in real trouble, because you won't get objective analyses by qualified professionals. I have to tell you, that when I was last in Central America, the principle complaint of my ex-colleagues was that their reports were read, not for information, to adjust and tune policy. But, certain sentences and paragraphs lifted out to use as a justification for present policy. I think that we all should worry about that and think about, that that's exactly what the Westmoreland Trial is all about right now. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Yes, could you comment briefly on the invasion of Grenada. Specifically with respect to, President Reagan's .\r\n\r\n- The question, the person asked me to comment on Grenada. Well, it is legitimate for the United States government to act to safeguard the United States citizens. The last thing this country needs or needed, was another Iranian hostage situation. If President Reagan truly had information that those young people were in danger, then some combination of diplomatic and military action to save them, to remove them from danger, I would never second guess a president on that. But, as long as you're there to rescue American citizens, to overthrow a government, that seems to me to be carrying things a little far. The idea that Grenada was somehow of importance to our national security. It's so important that we didn't even have a map of Grenada. The forces went in with Esso road maps, right? That is pretty, that'll give you some idea of how vital we considered this. I think that the thing that disturbs me most is that, a decision like this was taken without any attempt to educate you and me as to where it was, and what was happening, and why it was important. Instead, we had a foreign-policy action. In my view, it was simply one design to demonstrate to the American people that we had the capacity to do this. We sent a message, not only to the Soviet Union and Cuba, but we sent one to ourselves. Of course, the American people, I think have become so frustrated. By, you know, a foreign policy that's sort of like a \"New Yorker\" short story. It never has a beginning, it never has an end, it's just all middle. They were just delighted to have something which began and ended, and that was an . But, I tell you that, if developing countries are ever going to develop, they have to solve their own problems. I do not doubt that the Grenadian people welcomed our forces. I don't thought that they were glad to see the end of General Hudson Austin, but I think that really the way to have a country grow and mature, and take charge of its own life, is to let them solve their own problems. It doesn't seem to me, that we accomplished anything, in Grenada, other than to, finish the airfield, which the Cubans were already building, under British supervision. I think it's, you know, I know that it was such a success, that no politician felt equipped to really oppose it. But, from a perspective of a few years, it will be looked upon as a silly thing to have done, in my view, yes?\r\n\r\n- Following the invasion of Grenada, I think some of us had a disturbing feeling that maybe somebody up there was trying to prevent us from really understanding what was happening in the world. Particularly the , have you experienced an effort to, stifle or keep your message from reaching people, or seen it happen to any other people? The messages that disagree with that of the administration?\r\n\r\n- The idea that this press control, no, I think that the Reagan administration, more than most has, let its anger be known when the press, misplays or doesn't emphasize the points that the Reagan administration believes should be emphasized. But, generally speaking, I don't see any kind of, control or anything like that in this country. What I see, I see excellent reporting coming out of Central America. I see a Washington Press Corps that lets the president, the secretary of state, and defense, get away with the most outrageous statements, and never follows up. Never holds them to any kind of standard. I think the real failure of the press has been right there, but the action by the government in excluding the press from the Grenada operation, I think was, you know, the Pentagon was truly envious of the British and the Falkland Islands War. Because, they saw the whole press corps gathered in Buenos Aires, totally dependent on their handouts. I think they wanted to try to, an experiment, and duplicate that type of action. The outcry was sufficient, that a measure has been agreed on between the government and the press, that this will never happen again. I don't take this as any kind of bellwether. I think that the press freedom is still a living reality in this country, yes?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, what specifically in your opinion, in Nicaragua and , or what didn't they achieve, but you think they should achieve?\r\n\r\n- Well, I have mixed feelings about the government in Nicaragua. I admired it's, when it came into power, it's humanity. The fact that they didn't put people up against the wall. 'Cause, you know, the next revolution may take a lesson from the Nicaraguans, and realize that if you don't put 'em up against the wall, the CIA then employs them, and sends them back at you months later. But, I think that, the strides that they've made in literacy, and in health, and education, are real, and one would be idle, it's idle, seems to me, to dismiss them. I think that there's been one overwhelming mistake, to me. That is, it seems to me that when the Sandinistas came in, they severely discounted, and the role that non-Sandinistas have played over the years in opposing Samoza, and in contributing to Samoza's downfall. Many of my friends, anti-Samozistas, have told me on long conversations about how they wanted to play a role in the new Nicaragua. But, that they are prevented from playing a role in new Nicaragua, because they're not Sandinistas. Therefore, they're not counted to be sort of, fully trustworthy, and they're not really considered to be revolutionaries, and therefore this sort of no place for 'em. They're not persecuted, they'll tell you that quite openly, they instead, they are put at the margin, and not permitted to contribute to the new Nicaragua. I think that this has not only led the Sandinistas to make a great many, mistakes in the sense of, becoming more and more centralized, more and more ingrown. I think it's also created a large opposition. A people who are angry and frustrated about certain directions of the Nicaraguan revolution, but don't really know how they can effectively put their descent into practice. It's my own impression, yes?\r\n\r\n- It seems to me , with the election of President Reagan , do you think there's any hope of changing the Reagan administration's policies for Central America? These are real concerns to my people, and what do you think?\r\n\r\n- Where are you from?\r\n\r\n- Columbia.\r\n\r\n- The question is, do I think that there's any possibility of changing the Reagan administration's stance, towards Central America? Well, I don't think there's very much, and I have, the young lady said she's from Columbia, and I have to, I think that this is, it's appropriate. That the question comes from a Colombian, because President Belisario Betancur of Colombia, has achieved something quite remarkable. He negotiated with the guerrillas of Columbia, who had been in existence for over a generation. There was a cease fire, an agreed on, process for bringing the revolutionaries into the political life of the country. It looks as though, it's still in gestation, so to speak, but it looks as though it's going to work. Now, why could President Belisario Betancur accomplish this? Because, he only had to contend with the internal dynamics, political dynamics of his own country. Of President Duarte of El Salvador, is no way inferior to President Betancur, in either his skill on his motivation. Duarte, who has much more in common with the revolutionaries of El Salvador, then he does with the extreme right of El Salvador. But, Duarte can not accomplish nothing in El Salvador, that's not supported from Washington. Therefore, he is, terribly handicapped, in his, honorable and outstanding initiative to dialogue with the revolution. I think, the hope is, that all of us can bring pressure on our elected representatives, and that the, our allies, can play as useful, and as positive a role, as the Contadora powers have played, including the Colombian president and foreign minister, in bringing some kind of pressure on the United States. But, thus far at least, we have to be pessimistic, because the Reagan administration seems to be very able to insulate itself from, not only internal pressures, but also international pressures. Yes?\r\n\r\n- What'd you say, you said that the, El Salvador has to go through Washington before they can do anything in , but isn't the same in Nicaragua? They have to go through the Soviet Union to do . That's why the government leaders , because everything we've done in Nicaragua, had to be cleared through , which is cleared through Moscow.\r\n\r\n- You're saying, that just as El Salvador has to go through Washington, that Nicaragua has to go through Cuba and the Soviet Union? What's your evidenced for that statement?\r\n\r\n- Well, generally, all the arms in Nicaragua, came from Cuba, came from the Soviet Union. They've put a lot of pressure.\r\n\r\n- Look, I know that that's the impression that the Reagan administration wants to give you, but the fact is this. Cuba was a poor and late fifth, in the supply of arms to Nicaragua. First was Panama, Costa Rica, Venezuela, one more, Mexico, and then-\r\n\r\n- France.\r\n\r\n- No, no, you're talking about, France is late, I'm talking about during the revolution. I mean, before they triumphed. Of course, they don't, revolutionaries don't throw their guns away, once they get into power. These guns came to Central America, to Nicaragua, from a whole variety of countries, and Cuba was a minor, minor player in the amount of arms. As was just stated, France and other Western countries, has since sent arms to the, Nicaraguan government. Now, it seems to me that the point here is though, that I agree that there is an increasing dependence on Soviet arms. Let's ask ourselves, why is that? Because, if you agree with me, that it's legitimate for the United States to work to diminish and eradicate Soviet and Cuban influence from Central America. Then, why would you not agree that we would sign this Contadora draft treaty. Which would send the Cuban troops home, and leave the Sandinistas in charge of Nicaragua, but accountable to their own people. But, without the possibility of receiving any more arms from either the Soviet Union or Cuba. I think it's, that seems to me, the obvious way to handle this type of situation. But, I think that the suspicion that most of us have, is that the Reagan administration refuses to live with independent, unfriendly governments. They simply don't believe that diplomacy is useful, over the long haul in changing them. I would point out, that if you read history, and you look at the Mexican Revolution, you will find that the Mexican Revolution was far more anti-American, far more extreme in the internal measures that it took. Far more, in a sense, totalitarian in the way that it acted towards its people, in the early days, in the sense of, being absolute. And yet, Mexico has evolved, some kind of a responsive government, which lives in a fruitful relationship with the United States. I just suggest to you, that if we would stop trying to overthrow the government in Nicaragua, then Nicaragua would evolve, more or less, along the same lines as Mexico. Why don't, well, yes, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- In your final years in the Foreign Service, did you ever see any evidence documenting arms flows from Nicaragua to El Salvador?\r\n\r\n- In my last years, last months in the Foreign Services, did I ever see evidence documenting arms flows from Nicaragua to El Salvador? Sure, the only documented flow of arms from Nicaragua to El Salvador, and from Cuba to El Salvador, by way of Nicaragua, came about in October and November of 1980. They flew in important quantities of arms and brought them in by truck. We knew that, because we immediately, captured some of these, well, the government captured some of the arms, but more importantly, small planes carrying this stuff crashed. Castro has later admitted that indeed, during that period, Cuba and Nicaragua did send arms. Since that time, there's been no documented case of Nicaragua sending arms. I don't doubt that some trickle of arms leaves Nicaragua and gets to El Salvador. 'Cause, if you look at a map, you realize that Nicaragua and El Salvador do not border one another, and any arms have to go through Honduras, or be shipped on the high seas. Here we have put hundreds and hundreds, or thousands, of American soldiers, and bases with monitoring equipment, and ships with monitoring equipment. We have yet to find one, shipment of arms in Nicaragua to El Salvador. As I say, I don't deny that they have these, but the point is to the extent that you, concentrate on outside flows, which do exist, is to the extent which you miss the important point. That the revolutions are homegrown, that they're authentic, that they will exist whether Cuba or the Soviet Union existed or not. My guardian is standing here assisting that I stop. It's been a great pleasure to be with you, thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46834/file/120205#t=0.0,2487.216"}]}]}]}