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Well of course they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3409.6,3413.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"called me the local school because they hear what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3413.26,3415.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they call a talented and gifted children and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3415.87,3419.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theirs. So that was a special program. The local","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3419.5,3423.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"schools in here and they called me to mentor kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3423.34,3427.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so the kids said this one girl that I mentored.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3427.72,3432.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She said now a second year grads second year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3432.49,3435.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"student out at Madison. But a way she was a class","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3436.33,3440.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"valedictorian when she graduated from the high","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3440.26,3443.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/878","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school here. So anyway it's nice to see where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3443.2,3446.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these kids can go. Some of them are very smart and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3446.71,3450.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the smart kids will always get ahead no matter","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3450.52,3452.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what right because they'll be different than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3452.86,3454.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"average person on the street who is going to be at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3454.96,3458.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a handicap if they can't you know maximize their","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3458.28,3463.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talents and so forth or try to bring out a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3464.05,3467.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those analogies that they may have. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3467.02,3469.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's it's it's a big problem to trying to get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3470.46,3473.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these kids to learn mathematics and things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3473.29,3476.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody's here the math is one of my favorites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3476.56,3480.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't have mathematics I couldn't get a cab.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3482.14,3485.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh thank you very much for this interview today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3487.23,3489.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm going to go ahead with itself through your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3489.39,3491.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sincere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937#t=3491.28,3491.78"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36707/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/707/original/MS0650_Oestmann.vtt?1650911278","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/707/original/MS0650_Oestmann.vtt?1650911278"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36708","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0650_Oestmann.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73097/file/158937/transcript/36708/annotation/894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Just me OK. OK. This is Tanya's initial culture at Iowa State University and the date is May 15th. Wednesday 2002. And this is an interview with Dr. Mary Jane Eastman correct. And that's how you pronounce your last name. Yes. OK. And well let's get started. And I should tell you that where you grew up and your family background. OK. I'm married Jamie smiles. I was born as a twin. It's my sister. Both all of us of course were born in the Chicago and Chicago and grew up until we're about 10 years old in the Chicago area of primarily a Norwegian and Swedish background family. And my father however on his side was of German descent. But anyway and then when we were about nine or ten years old we moved to Ohio and most of our schooling in the schools outside of Youngstown Ohio and a town called Boardman. And and then graduated both my sister and I. She was number one I was number two in our high school graduation. And that was in 1942 and then we went to Denison and E and I am so in University in Granville Ohio for undergrad and both of us graduate with honors and in 46. And then we both majored in chemistry. I had a double major in chemistry and mathematics and she had a chemistry and biology thing. And then we went to Madison Ohio Wisconsin and got our masters degree both in chemistry and I was more on the physical side of chemistry and she was organic. Now when you were growing up and you spent obviously you spent a lot of time together did you both have an early interest in science when you were in grade school and junior high and high school. Well I actually I give all the credit to my high school teacher who you know we had both physics and chemistry and high school and then we went on and had wonderful professors at Denison University course that was during the war years and many people and the boys all went off to the service. But anyway we I really think most of my whatever I've accomplished in the world I give credit to my professors. What was it like having a twin that within the same area that you were. Were you competitive with each other. Not necessarily. We we really were not particularly fighting. But you pushed each other. Oh yeah. And I think our professors for all of us were influenced by our professor. It was a small school. It wasn't a big university and we had a lot of personal attention by the professors particularly in mathematics and chemistry and physics. I have a minor in physics. But anyway since it was the war years where they really pushing women to go into these areas at that time to No I don't think so. You know I believe I was ever pushed in one direction or the other except the inspiration from the professors of course they were trying to get through you know the science fields anyway. So what did both what did your parents think of the fact. Was it always assumed that you would go to college. Were they surprised that you went into the sciences. No. My father once worked in a steel mill started out very young and eventually became assistant to the vice president of a steel company in Youngstown Ohio. And then my mother however graduated and with honors from high school and went out to the University of Chicago and graduated in here for 1918 I think it was with honors from the University of Chicago but not in the sciences and in languages primarily German and Scandinavian languages and history and they were both very intelligent and and we're very grateful for that if you know why did you kick the University of Wisconsin Madison because they had a strong program. Well of course we moved up here to Wisconsin after we graduated from Denison at 46. So we had this home which was originally my grandparents and I'm the third generation living here in Wisconsin at the home. My great grandmother just lived down the hall down the road from where I lived. So we split the summer between our great grandmother's place and my grandparents place and we grew up. Did you decide to. Was it a conscious decision that you and your sister would go to for graduate work together or. Well we both got T.A. up at Madison and we had applied a number of places but because of being close to home so to speak up here in Wisconsin that's where we ended up. And she graduated with a masters and went out and taught at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee and I stayed on and got my PHC in 1954 primarily and radio chemistry and inorganic chemistry it's sort of a mish mash of chemistry classes and it was it hard after she laughter had you pretty but had a pretty good network. Now we are where we sort of went our own separate ways even though we're still plans of course. But she she had her interests and well her big campus you just kick up like you know. So she she went off and as I said cause she didn't want to go on further than a masters and I just as long as I could stay on I got my degree way back in 54. Was there anything you were working on in graduate work that you found particularly fascinating or projects that you worked on. Well of course the professor I got my piece and there was originally a student worked under Madam Curie in Paris after the First World War and then he came back and became mayor eventually a professor. What was his name. Norris Hall is a l l l. And then one of his students who shared laboratory with me got a Nobel Prize in chemistry in the year 2000. So he originally came on a Fulbright from New Zealand and now he's been a professor at Pennsylvania and chemistry for well in a. It was a brilliant guy got to create these things about he went over to Cambridge to and became I got a second doctorate degree there and in England and then eventually you got to be at the Pennsylvania in Philadelphia has been there for almost 50 years. And what was his name. Allen McDermott him a C capital D I A R M I.D. so something it was a pretty stimulating environment than I am. I always said Alan you're gonna get that Nobel Prize winners was still working in the laboratory and at the time believe it or not we used to cook our own hamburgers in the lab reports the uranium and thorium over to one side that was working up there and at the end of the day and then run out the frying pans we were living like as cheaply as we said waiting to get through grad school. Had you thought about what you wanted to do after graduate school or were you just really focused on the Peach State had you decided you were going. Really I just thought well I just keep going on and eventually I got. And then I went to Scandinavia. Now originally some of the research work on my thesis was done at the University of Oslo but a thing of Norwegian background and a lot of relatives and the way I ended up working at an institute which was half that enhance our region established after the Second World War and they had a relatively small reactor and I was involved in doing research work on production radio isotopes from medical and industrial applications. And I worked there a year and a half and this was an international institute that had oh roughly maybe 300 scientists from around the world and at that time I was the only American and I worked in the facilities that were originally built by the Nazis. Next it was a hospital and medical facilities next to a military airbase outside of well and so I worked there about it a little over a year and moved down to Stockholm and worked there for a year and a facilities with the reactor facility under the center of the Stockholm underground. And I did research work similar to what I did in my thesis work and which involved a fuel reprocessing reactor fuel reprocessing separation of uranium from efficient products and plutonium from fission products. And what was it like to be the only American in Norway. Was that a stimulating experience. Was it. Definitely was I give Norway credit for going to get a job in this country. When I left because in this country although I applied for all sorts of positions and had interviews in Madison when I told them that I was getting a peace deal. Oh that was the biggest waste of time for them talking to me. They would never hire a woman with a PHC. Did they give reasons or why did it take you somehow. No they didn't necessarily have to. What was that. Usually when they hire PHC they expect their person to go up the line right and have men working and or a woman that would be the world's worst thing that I could tell you prejudice I went through over the years trying to fight for my existence so to speak. I'm sure especially the field you were in was very male dominated too. Yes. And after I came back from Scandinavia that was just before Christmas of 56 I then went out to the University of Iowa. So I've had some influence and responsible for about twelve hundred students of freshman chemistry. I was replacing a professor who was on sabbatical leave. His name was Sanderson and he was on sabbatical writing a textbook and I took his place for about six months. How did you get that job. I mean how did you get the connection. When I came back I got calls from Madison and they heard about that. This position was open and they wanted somebody to fill this position to be you know teaching freshman chemistry. So I was more or less responsible for the freshman chemistry program. It was kind of a shock to be working in this international research atmosphere and then all of a sudden come to a university where you're teaching freshman chemistry. Well of course I was a T.A. at Madison for many years and I became an R.A. research assistant. But anyway I was really I was just glad at that time that come home because things were getting hot and heavy in Europe. The sewers situation occurred 56 or yeah 56 were all the oil coming to Europe was shut off and gasoline and oil was rationed and the maximum temperature that the government set in the buildings was about 45 degrees. Very chilly I slept in my ski suit about three over there and ready to come home. And then of course at the same time I was in Vienna that summer just before the Russians moved into Hungary right Budapest in 56 and didn't know whether a war was going to start but it felt like it. Yeah and things were really tough. We didn't know what was going to happen whether another war was going to start or what. At that point. So anyway. So then I thought out that I was for a while and then I went in 57 to Battelle Memorial Institute a private research foundation facility. It's one of the largest in the world actually has facilities in Switzerland. And it's based in Columbus Kraft and Columbus Ohio. And so I worked there about four and a half years from 57 to 61. And what was that like. Well of course I was doing atomic energy contra. It's a contract research place. It was a place where you were various contracts and you had to have enough contracts to keep busy eight hours a day but I did all sorts of work for the Navy Army and the Air Force and one of the papers I published in with others a chorus is a co-author a paper that was presented at the 1958 Geneva conference on the peaceful uses of the family energy and all my working life I've only worked really on peaceful uses of atomic energy I don't know any more about weapons. The new Romanian so I lost all my work was done along that line. And anyway during all this time both living and working overseas as well as in this country have been able to meet most of the nuclear people known throughout the world. Like when Seaboard right off fairly well and all the others that you can possibly think of. I've met one time or another and that must have been helpful to your career and also when all your environmental work too. And then when I worked at Argonne I went there in 61 and went where was there from 61 to 71. And at their day during Eisenhower's time when he was president he gave a speech before the United Nations on the peaceful uses of atomic energy and he proposed giving all these reactors to foreign countries so they needed to have these people overseas come to this country to be trained and I eventually became a professor quote unquote teaching foreign scientists in the F radio isotopes in reactor chemistry fields in these foreign scientists. I don't know how many thousands of foreign scientists they taught at one time or another. And I did that for five or six years and eventually the facilities I had at Argonne all these nuclear facilities had an extensive lab facilities. I developed all sorts of chemistry experiments involving nuclear stuff and and then we opened the facilities to American students and faculty members and we used to have and as they don't have it now. But at that time we had to work faculty workshops on the weekends and this Friday and Saturday and then from Monday to Thursday. We taught classes of students that came from all over the Midwest and then in the summertime we had grants of money from the National Science Foundation to sponsor students who came some science for the whole summer or some friends sometimes for two weeks. It varied. Every summer it was different but we were teaching a lot of students from all a university something for their January term and spent the summer or the January term with me and I've had several students that did their masters in PHC research work in my labs. But though we couldn't grant a degree they actually got their research work at my place but then were granted from wherever the university was for. I thought of a student that got a degree from Northwestern and in the nuclear field and so I got very well acquainted with many of the faculty members around the universities in the Midwest. At the same time what kind of courses would you teach. Well we had all sorts of special classes you know sometimes we had to do a sort of workshop sort of thing on a specific subject like at that time back in the 60s. I gave the classes in a gas chromatography we just really just getting started. I gave classes in that and then a lot in the radio isotope area did all sorts of special experiments and a whole lot of things offered and then they could pick what they wanted when they came. Their expenses were paid through the National Science Foundation and so and that program was going on for a long time. Then during that time the various universities for instance there was some 30 schools that are small liberal arts schools from the Chicago area that combined together and formed an organization which so they still cooperate and the way many of these schools for it all the fancy equipment that we had in the lab. So they came and used our facilities. And after the faculty went through some of these faculty workshops then they actually operated their equipment in my lab but had their own students there. And so they were teaching their own students using our facilities and I would just be sort of a psychic you know in case anything came. Well put it that way. So they so we had a good exchange program. All of these universities and small schools. I saw a lot of faculty members who came from say from Wisconsin that University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee has a faculty member who was a professor in botany and I had a bunch of medical professors from Northwestern Medical School the one in Ohio who work with and handle radio isotopes. So I had a whole semester. They came out three times a week believe it or not. I have a half a day with me. That was their increasing interest in using this for medical purposes. I mean it sounds like that's kind of been a constant theme. Yeah. There was a lot of interest of course back in the 60s we didn't have all the scares people get scared about today. But anyway they were interested in what they could learn and having access to facilities. And after they got acquainted with this kind of process and knowing how to handle radio isotopes they went ahead and established facilities in their own schools or own universities whatever they could afford depending of course how much money were available for them to you know to set up any such program. But at Lake I had these professors in med school from Northwestern Medical School. They then established their own facilities there in downtown Chicago the hospital down there. You were also doing and dig it but also the other thing kind of in your career has been your interest in environmental issues and you were also doing environmental impact statements correct. Yeah. And I think that the EPA was created. I mean this was in the early years of the EPA start of it. There at the very beginning. And in fact I almost applied for a job there but instead in nineteen well 1968 a lot of concern and the development of the environmental movement was just getting started and then. And then the National Environmental Policy Act was passed by Congress and was it 1970 anyway at that period of time the Atomic Energy Commission was required to prepare environmental impact statements on any date facility or any kind of licensing process that the AC was going to do and so lo and behold they picked me and another two or three others and we used to commute to Washington every week for gosh six months and whatever it was and then eventually in 1971 I moved to Washington and helped establish the environmental programs that involve preparing environmental impact statements. I also was a founder of the one of the founders in the environmental division of the American Nuclear Society and that got started around the same time 69 70. And so that's. So I was very at the beginning the EPA just got started around that same time 1970 71. And of course we worked very directly with the EPA and all environmental issues of nuclear power plants and the signing and the construction and the effects of operating nuclear plants and environmental effects. So eventually I became the first environmental project woman I should say. First Woman environmental project manager for the AJC. And at the time Dixie Lee Ray became commissioner and prior to that she had to go before the Senate for her confirmation hearings. And the AC people told me to go and interview her and give her all sorts of hints ahead of time so that she knew all the major issues about nuclear power plants and I had I was the project manager for the Indian boy plants with her feet electricity in New York City but it was located up the Hudson River and the Hudson River and all the environmental effects on all of fishery in the Hudson River where much of the spawning goes on for much of the fishery that goes up around New England. And so anyway so I could agree and I spent a half a day the day before she went to the Senate and assisted her as to what any questions and in the Congress congressmen would ask regarding this controversial case that was forever. I was sweating like mad to get through that situation. The five years that I was the project manager for there I should say environmental project manager because there were two project managers one licensing or the safety project manager and I was the environmental side. And when we went through extensive hearings on every and each of these plants just went on or every other week I was up in New York testifying and and in witnessing. Was it difficult I mean was it. Oh yes very very difficult. I mean was it. Were the questions they asked him with a hard to answer. Or was there a lack of understanding about no knowledge. The one impact statement I was responsible for was seventeen hundred pages extensive modelling of tissue fish life of all different kinds. Now you have a tidal effect and you've got all sorts of complications when you have oil tidal effect and the fact is that much of the fishery spawn just around where this site this plant was sited there 24 miles north of Manhattan. And so there were a lot of people environmental groups. FRANCIS The National Resource in our NRDC I can our national resources defense council I dealt with them and then save our stripers which was the striped striped bass of the fish the river used to go out and some of the monitoring boats that went up and down the river and took samples at all times of the year in the wintertime in the summertime and all sorts of things did all sorts. And they had that Con Ed that Consolidated Edison had extensive fish hatcheries to develop and try to start more fisheries along the Hudson River there for the and studying the effect of what what happened when these eggs and larva would go through the nuclear power plants through is essentially the condenser and get crushed through there and get destroyed. And what impact that would have on the New England Fisheries was we looked at the whole entire Atlantic coast and seeing all the waves and how fish are being spawned in the Chesapeake in the Lawrence Seaway and all the way along the whole coast as well as the Hudson. And what were the final results were the finding we we finally came to the conclusion that they had to build the cooling tower to minimize the amount of water that they would take the river for cooling purposes. And then that however never came about because at that time one of the court decisions made was that any environmental thing should be taken over by EPA. You know even though we were required to write these impacts statements. But there was a lawsuit there was so many lawsuits going on and one big decision was that something of that nature should be under the jurisdiction of EPA not under the NRDC even though it was an AC license plant to be licensed. But anyway. So then all of this controversy was shifted to EPA and I don't think EPA ever carried it through what we actually concluded is what we call the findings of I think conclusions or law as a final statement out of these impact statements that I preferred. Now why is the one for that river but also upon in the Pelosi's plan and so Haven Michigan and also coal on a plant up in northern Wisconsin there Door County where so all of those plants I was involved in licensing it project manager for them and that in the case of the one Intel say that was more wasn't a river of course we are Lake Michigan and we had all the fishery business of the Lake Michigan and the effect there and the plants the effect of the plant on the fishery in Lake Michigan. I used to get out there also at all hours and all sorts of weather there in the middle of Lake Michigan rolling around some of the boats they had for us to go out and grab samples. Was it hard because basically the work. I mean this was actually a new area kind of the reset time. Did that make it difficult or did it make it more easy. Well no. I mean there's so many controversies and trying to prove certain facts which was very almost impossible to man we required that they convert their cooling system over to having mechanical cooling towers and then they did that. They were required to do that to complete their licensing process. So we did get that accomplished. But anyway so that was another That's the first issue. So at the time I had these two plants at the same time. And. Very very controversy and one of the most controversial issues at that time was. And that was just the beginning. Now of course we looked at all the and the effects of radiation that might come off the plants and all those safety questions and so forth. So that's all inside this. Like this one impact statement of seventeen hundred pages and there was something like 30 to 40 thousand pages of testimony and all the hearing process. And then we had to review all the you know it's a legal process all of this licensing had to comply with the Atomic Energy Act at that time was 54. But anyway so we. And then they had this you know National Environmental Policy Act and to comply with all the. Requirements of that. And. And to. Meet their. Requirements to get a license. So now some of these plants are asking for extensions when a license is issued. It's a 40 year license. And that starts the day of construction for and is given. Well some of these plants took the last 15 years to construct but anyway now they're reaching the end of their 40 year period and they're asking for a 20 to 25 years extension. And the NRC Nuclear Regulatory Commission which was let's see I have to go back a little time when I left the AC in Washington. It's now with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and then Irda came in energy research development agency and then now that's part of DOJ. That's all in DOJ. But anyway so. So then I was with the NRC and then eventually I moved back to the Midwest and for 12 years I inspected nuclear power plants in the environmental radio chemical analysis and. The radiation area company. How many plants are there in that area. You mean in the Midwest. Midway right. Probably around 50 OK. And are there a wide variety of plants are primarily Westinghouse pipe design which is a pressurized water reactor. And the other there are of course the General Electric which is the boiling water reactor. And so you have to do all the inspections and kind of coordinate that. Well yeah I did some weeks sometimes. We were team inspections when I go to say the Zion reactor which is now shut down. This is Zion Illinois just outside of Chicago right along Lake Michigan. We would take a team of maybe 20 people we'd be there for a two three week. Sometimes I knock on the door of the control room and say I'm Saturday night and animals are not likely to see if those guys were away like that. Did you Did you ever catch them asleep. Okay. But anyway the nuclear power business is gone a long way in improving their planned efficiency and they're now operating around 90 plus percent efficiency for they were only around maybe 70 75 percent but they've increased their operating efficiency and. This has produced the course more electricity where the benefit of mankind so to speak. And anyway and as a result they haven't had the need to build more plants. But I think eventually maybe not in my lifetime that more plants will eventually be built. If we can solve a few issues like putting the nuclear waste so to speak over at the Yucca Mountain. Math right now the biggest controversy going on in Congress is while the House passed this bill to place the spent fuel rods in Yucca Mountain Mountain Nevada and then but now it has to go before the Senate and they say that Bill will eventually come up for debate. Well right now they are debating it in Congress and it'll come up in July. So what do you think. Do you think they ought to go ahead and do that. Definitely. Right. Yeah definitely we have to take these. You see when Congress passed an Act in 1982 the National Waste Disposal Act of 82. And at that time in 90 1998 the United States government was to take all of these spent fuel so they had the responsibility of building a facility that will handle and take all of these spent fuel rods. And solve from 80 to 90 days. Nothing was really done as far as the government was concerned they did this work and did a lot of studying. But. When 98 came names came and went and during all that time the utilities had to pay depending on the size of the plant and so forth. They had to pay a tremendous amount of money to the government. The federal government for the building of these facilities so the utilities have paid into this business all these many years to handle all this so-called waste. So something it's something's gonna happen. So instead they expanded their pool pools around every nuclear plant. You have a swimming pool where they store the waste they take out every year when they refill and put this in this pool. Now these fuel pools as they call them are all being filled up and there's no place for them to go until and then if that's the case you're going to have to shut the plants down. And that's one way of for those people who want to shut all our plants down I just don't know anything to remove any of these fuel rods these pools. They have to. So as a result the whole nuclear business could be shut down in the next 10 15 years if they didn't get something going. That's my personal opinion that's not true and that's the. You can just keep putting rods in these pools they had because these pools eventually could go critical if they're close enough together. Always got some spray neutrons floating around. And anyway and then incident. Right next to the reactor vessel is where these pools are now being filled up and something has to be done on this issue. And now eventually this thing has been put off but of all these many years and finally they have made a decision that go ahead with you Come on. And that's been studied extensively over a period of years but no real final decision until President Bush has now. And it's going ahead of course. The people of Nevada are not too happy about this. And however some from Nevada as therefore it and some are not against this for. So there's always going to be a controversy about these things especially with nuclear waste because we need the power but no one ever knows what what to do with the byproducts. Well do you see the thing is back when President Carter was president he made the decision that we would not reprocess the fuel. But of course overseas that was like in France they reprocess the fuel over there and when. So instead Carter said no refilling and reprocessing. And that was back in the 70s. And so as a result you've got all the potential plutonium that's in these rods that could be retrieved and be used there to fuel other reactors in the future but they're not today they're not really called waste. They shouldn't be called waste. There are of course fission products. That's the waste. All right. But anyway. So I they could always retrieve these things and reprocess them and make some use of the plutonium that's in there whatever uranium 235 that's still there was that that you know only something like three or four percent of the uranium 235 is actually consumed at the time that this right is in a nuclear plant do you think that some international company countries like France have done a better job of managing. Their nuclear power. I wouldn't even possess a very good job over there. I've got some 78 percent are powered by nuclear reactors. Their electricity that is and however their of course occurred this decision that go that way occurred when this oil. Rationing occurred in 56 when my English bombed the Suez Canal and they couldn't get oil in into Europe. Then they realized they had to have something independent of the Middle East for oil. So they went along and started building and these reactor facilities and it's run entirely different because these facilities are run by the French federal government. It's not like in this country where we have privately owned utilities. And so as a result the government goes and does things with the people although they do have rights over there too. Now would you say you know as a woman you must have been a fairly rare individual I guess in terms of the most of the people that you dealt with in terms of inspections and what were your experiences with that. Well I tell you the truth. The first day I was on an official inspection I went up to a plaque called Monticello which is up in Minnesota. And they wouldn't let me in the plant as I was a woman. And so it took a bit of jaw boning or whatever that the regional director in my office down in Glen Allen at the time and the chairman of the board running that utility they had to finally say wow she's qualified she's got it back anyway. So it took several days otherwise I could sit in the office but I couldn't go on and so it took a long time in fact this really was an ongoing battle every time I went there and I feeling a lot of time over the years. But anyway were there other plants like that too or was it just that one. Oh they know what this is a I can't even tell you all their experiences. But it was like for instance according to the rules and regulations that the NRC had had set out was that all women had to take a pregnancy test. So I'm not gonna tell you which plant this was that I got there and now I'm almost 60 years old and I had to take a break and they wanted me to die and I go back and say I didn't want to take a pregnancy test and I said I wasn't qualified halfway through and I couldn't be pregnant and they wouldn't let me in the plant without the pregnancy test. Oh that must have been frustrating. Let's say you implant that. But anyway it was to me a very interesting experience and met a lot of very hardworking devoted and well educated people in this field and they are very concerned of course the thing is we're all concerned about the safety is anything you know about these plants and all the facts and all that stuff. But if any plants this study this much do the research as much as this. Well I wouldn't know where to go. But anyway I just feel that I've met a lot of interesting people during my career and I established as you may know this American nuclear Society Award energy achievement award for women in the nuclear field and I helped fund that award just set that up last year. And so I'm trying to help a few women get along because there are now a lot of women in the field many doing computer studies and a lot of work along that line. And people in the safety area compiling information and getting it on C.D. and whatever that leads to my next question. I know you've been really involved with the American Nuclear Society. Did that play a role in your career and your ability to make connections and also to connect with other women. Definitely. Because at the time I joined or I guess around 1960 or 61 or something like that. So I've been a member for over 40 years and I'm a fellow now I was a board of directors back in the 80s and the present woman the present president is a woman who's got her doctor's degree in nuclear engineering from M.I.T. and anyway so. And so there's a there a group of about seven of us women who broke the ice in an S and a and F because it was primarily a man's organization and back in the 70s and early 80s we were able to get women on committees and things and had some influence in operating the organization. But yeah and I know a lot of good people there. There's a lot of nice women as well as men and but there are a lot of women in there now that didn't like that for now they're 25 now and looking back at your career would you say that I mean did you have a plan in mind or did you just kind of go where the jobs were. I never really had a plan. I just went from day to day or year to year or whatever. I never really sat around trying to figure out what's the next step. Exactly. But just that the jobs had to be done and I was willing to do whatever I was told to do and basically good bosses and basically respond to opportunities that were offered. Well here's another question. Have you had in your clergy. At a time. Have a mentor that kind of helped you along or opened more opportunities for you. Well yeah I would say my professors originally and school but then then as I went along I admired certain people and in the work and the career field and so I felt they never particularly mentored me per say except that I had a lot of opportunities open up to me when particularly when I was at Argonne and other and Patel and where I did most of my research work for any period of time and then of course the NRC. But that was that research and I C or A C and I see it was a different sort of thing. But anyway it was a legal process and I got involved with a lot of lawyers of all sorts of New York who represented the utility and of course a lot of the lawyers who represented the environmental groups I dealt with. They were all lawyers who were environmental on the environmental issues and things anyway. Well here's another question and we ask this of everybody. Do you think that you've balance between your career and your personal life very well through throughout your lifetime. Oh yeah. I'm even now and I've ever. I've been retired since 87. But anyway I am very active in a local area here and also I've been attending some of the national and s meetings. You know I've been long out of the field. But anyway I'm interested in how things are progressing in this country and in the energy field and all the controversy with the energy field and global warming and climate and all that sort of thing. I keep trying to keep it ahead of the game and any way so I do attend the American Chemical Society Chicago meetings and the Chicago chapter and in fact I will be going to the Willard Gibbs dinner in a couple of weeks. And anyway is there anything that looking back over your career that you wish you'd done differently. Oh I probably would like to repeat it over really well. Is it just that things open up I'm just in the whole nuclear field which I'm of course obviously in all for in terms of making sure it progresses but it was up and then down and maybe it'll come back in the next years to come. Let's hope it does there's a lot of progress and research work being done on what they call the advance generation Generation for type of nuclear plants. And there's a reactor that's down in South Africa being developed and then what they call a pebble bed reactor which really is a concept that came out of Madison with Barrington Daniels who is the chairman of the chem department. He came up with the concept way back in the second world war the concept of using Pebble Bed concept setting up a core and nuclear core and using it instead of rods using balls and using that set up like a like sort of like a crossword puzzle in a way. And so instead of having those tall rods which are around 14 feet long they would have these setup. So you have a bunch of balls with a nuclear few in the center of the ball and it's in that concept was being conceived during the Second World War by Franklin Daniels who was one of the professors I did work with. And as you think that's kind of the wave of the future. I don't know. It depends on what's coming out of this project because many interest and consolidated Commonwealth Edison as a joint effort with a lot of things before deregulation started utilities were primarily within a state like the state of Wisconsin or state of Illinois. They didn't go out now under deregulation a allowed utilities combined with other utilities and then also have interests overseas and other areas across the ocean so to speak. So there's a lot of cooperation between my County citizens South Africa utility that is filling the several bad reactors as well. In Germany. So before every the utilities were very confined to just their own district in there wherever their area was in their state. Now they're combining together for instance one of the concepts that was the thought of many years ago by Professor Weinberg from Oak Ridge was that all the reactors should be operate in groups so that the people who were running the show the managers would be all really nuclear engineers before when the utilities were first going and sending out these. These are people that grew up from the fossil fuel plants and now they're combining these nuclear facilities for instance the one here in Wisconsin the Wisconsin Electric its reactors combined with the one up there the minus cell plan and the Prairie Island. That's all under one roof being a separate subsidiary of a company. And so there's a lot more joint effort going on and so that they combined experiences in operating these plants together rather than by themselves. So there's a lot more information being exchanged between the different utilities that didn't exist before which is probably a good thing. I would think so. Well is there anything else you want to share about your career that you think is important in addition to. I think obviously there you are one of the first women involved in this area and also the endowment of the women's achievement award for an ass. Is there anything else to you. Any other experience that you'd really like to have recorded. I feel frankly that no matter what their male or female or whoever. Everybody has talents and they ought to capitalize on that. They ought to be able to have opportunities open to them to expand and grow because life is growing for us one way or the other. And to get a chance to use their talents for the benefit of mankind so to speak. My whole life really is and once my grandfather is trying to help mankind either in the education field because I've done a lot of teaching to an as well as doing research work and anyway so I feel that people ought to be able to use their talents because our country needs a lot of good people. And I'm very concerned about the kind of education that's coming out of our school system. Any of the kids today are not getting a good basic education. Yes they may know a lot about computers and stuff like that. But when it comes to understanding fundamental knowledge they seem to be lacking that. When I first retired I was mentoring some kids here in the local schools. And if I even talk about equations or measurements that was unheard of wouldn't even tell them what an inch was compared to a centimeter or even explain something in a mathematical sort of way how why you have an equal sign and so forth in physics or chemistry or anything they didn't want to have that and they didn't want to learn math. Well I don't know how you learn anything unless you have some very fundamental knowledge. So how did you get involved with the mentoring program. Well of course they called me the local school because they hear what they call a talented and gifted children and theirs. So that was a special program. The local schools in here and they called me to mentor kids. And so the kids said this one girl that I mentored. She said now a second year grads second year student out at Madison. But a way she was a class valedictorian when she graduated from the high school here. So anyway it's nice to see where these kids can go. Some of them are very smart and the smart kids will always get ahead no matter what right because they'll be different than average person on the street who is going to be at a handicap if they can't you know maximize their talents and so forth or try to bring out a lot of those analogies that they may have. I don't know. It's it's it's a big problem to trying to get these kids to learn mathematics and things. Everybody's here the math is one of my favorites. I didn't have mathematics I couldn't get a cab. Oh thank you very much for this interview today. 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