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And I got a book back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=1211.07,1214.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in 45--in 48--I bought called Peace of Mind by a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=1214.4,1218.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rabbi which deals with narcissism and masochism","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=1218.75,1223.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I thought, that was one of the best statements","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=1223.97,1227.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I found about the same. 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You always smelled skunk a little","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=1484.89,1488.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bit so that was the mark of a trapper at that time. 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I can't deny that. 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We've got one son in California, got a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4613.6,4616.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"daughter in New York, and one daughter in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4616.9,4619.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"London. We hardly ever see them, you know, once a year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4619.51,4622.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maybe. But the doors are open for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4622.84,4627.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4629.16,4630.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not sure if this is crazy or not there's a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4633.69,4636.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"smart kids that don't have opportunities that need","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4636.03,4640.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"encouragement of some kind and I don't know that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4640.35,4643.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our political system helps them very much. I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4643.53,4646.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kids need prekindergarten or some kind of help","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4647.19,4650.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even at that stage because they're growing up--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4650.94,4653.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if there's a single mother with two or three kids and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4654.09,4656.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she can't hardly make a living and she can't stay around","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4656.64,4659.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those kids. They're really at a big","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4659.04,4663.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"disadvantage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4663.5,4664.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4666.62,4667.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it would be nice if they could get a little--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4669.75,4671.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because you know youngsters that have no","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4671.75,4673.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"discipline at home they're going to be scrambling","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4673.88,4675.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all over the place. Well, our son sent their boys--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4675.95,4679.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they didn't necessarily have a discipline problem while he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4680.97,4684.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was working there was a school nearby that he turned","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4684.68,4688.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them loose because his wife is a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4689.27,4691.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"veterinarian and he's an engineer so they're both","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4691.79,4694.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"working. 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And so those kids","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4703.74,4707.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then are kind of used to the kind of routine that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4707.48,4709.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happens in school. You turn a youngster in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4709.91,4712.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's five or six years old in the first grade","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4712.61,4715.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and a lot of times you know they can't sit still,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4715.58,4718.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they're going to be running around and it's very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4718.52,4720.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"difficult to teach him. Now maybe you know more about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4720.95,4723.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that than I do, but if you have kin that are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4723.65,4727.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"working in those areas if they're teachers, why, they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4727.1,4729.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know about that. And they don't dare say much about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4729.35,4732.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it because they think, well, they're biased, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4732.8,4736.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you gotta get them started right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4737.09,4740.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, well, I think--I think that's--I think we covered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4742.75,4746.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quite a bit of ground. I don't think I have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4747.01,4748.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anything else to ask you. Is there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4748.72,4751.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anything else you wanted to add before we shut","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4751.72,4753.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"off the recording? No I would just add that in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4753.97,4758.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recent years I haven't had much contact with the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4758.53,4760.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"library because I don't go over there, but, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4760.96,4765.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know, through the years there's a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4765.34,4768.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting places in the library. Old records, oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4768.01,4773.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and newspapers of all kinds. Magazines of all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4774.2,4776.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kinds that are available. Now, our Ames library","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=4776.68,4779.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does a pretty good job of that, too. 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And--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5031.52,5033.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the politics at the time impacts what you do, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5037.83,5040.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know that, but we shall wait and see what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5040.37,5045.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happens here for the next generation. I'm not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5045.92,5048.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to be around very long to do this, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5048.08,5051.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can look and see, well, what's going to happen to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5053.74,5056.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our kids and our grandkids. And that's nine--that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5056.03,5060.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2050? Boy, that's a long ways off and a lot of things","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5061.0,5065.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can happen before that and I am enough of a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5065.65,5068.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of conservative guy that I think we just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5069.39,5071.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can't go wild spending money. We gotta be leaning back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5071.95,5076.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a little bit. In fact, I've written a letter to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5076.91,5078.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"both Grassley and Ernst about some of the things that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5078.8,5082.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think and one of the first things I said is we got to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5082.84,5084.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ease away a little bit trying to get expenditures","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5084.98,5088.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and our debt under control. Now that's very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5088.31,5091.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"difficult to do now because of the health--well","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5091.49,5094.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"health and military, those two things are really huge","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5094.73,5097.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the budget. And that's why I got","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5098.9,5103.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involved in economics. I write some--got a little","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5103.38,5106.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"booklet about stories--about six or seven","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5106.53,5110.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"articles about income distribution, about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5111.42,5115.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"national debt, about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5116.55,5118.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"balance of trade, all these kind of things, just from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5120.58,5123.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I pick up. So I have interest in these things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5124.12,5127.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it gets--stimulates--now, I don't know, I suppose","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5128.16,5130.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I should just be enjoying myself more than I do, but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5130.44,5133.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really enjoy doing these things more than some other things. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5133.33,5134.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5138.75,5141.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming in. Thank you for your patience. I knew","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5141.21,5145.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you do some good things there and I think there's a lot","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5146.21,5148.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of stuff. I looked up there and I've been through","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5148.83,5151.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the archives some. It always makes me smile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5151.92,5155.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's some people that have done great things","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5156.57,5158.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they've only got about a foot in the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5158.88,5161.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's other people that I--one of them was in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5162.31,5164.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our department--had stuff scattered out there for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5164.67,5167.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"twenty feet. And I thought, why in the world does he have all that space","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5168.0,5172.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when this other guy that really has prominence in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5172.29,5175.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some things, he's only got a foot or two. And you see","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5175.37,5179.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that. I'm sure you see it. [laughter] Yes. Yes I do. All right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5179.72,5184.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=5185.39,5186.01"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18447/annotation/1343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/447/original/RS000-017-003_Johnson.vtt?1599132997","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/447/original/RS000-017-003_Johnson.vtt?1599132997"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18448","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Unedited text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799/transcript/18448/annotation/1344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- ...word here and I'll introduce this real quick. So today's Monday, March 13th, 2017. I'm here with Howard Johnson, former professor and head of the Department of Agricultural and Biosystems Engineering. We're here in his home in Ames. And we're going to do a quick oral history and learn a bit about his life and his time in World War II and about his career here at Iowa State. So if you want to start off, you were born in 1923. Is that right? In twenty-three, at home. Okay. I was born at home in 19-- and all five of us were born at home. OK. Is that right. Sometimes there was a registered nurse, I know, that came out when we were born and sometimes a doctor made it. But anyway we lived through that time and in the thirties we encountered the hard times, of course, that precluded Father's chance of buying a farm. So we lived through the thirties and a couple of things I remember about the thirties. One is that the price of pork, I think, was ten cents a pound. Okay. Hogs. And corn was ten cents, excuse me, corn was ten dollars a--ten cents a bushel. I'll get this straight. And, but anyway, prices of goods were very low, and, well, we had--it was a time when we had droughts, too, because we ran out of water and we had to move to another farm because we had to--Dad had to get rid of his livestock, essentially, because we didn't have any water so we moved to another farm. So your dad was, he was he renting or--? How was--you said he wasn't able to buy a farm. No, he could not after--when the hard times came along there was no margin. In fact, survival was the main thing. And even for the people that owned land, the people couldn't pay the rent a lot of times, so they'd rent it on share rent or else maybe even disregarded the rent. Now, our second farm was owned by a big lawyer at home town that had a lot of land. In fact, that lawyer was at one time a trustee for Iowa State, I noticed. Oh, is that right. Yeah. Helso[?] was his name. Now we're both of these farms near Odebolt then? They were within seven miles of town. Okay. And I think that was about the distance in each case. So we went there--I went to high school in Odebolt High School and I rode with a neighbor for two years and drove a Model A Ford for two years, took my sister and other people in the neighborhood. We--but we survived. And the strange thing is that I don't know that we ever really felt poor. We had a place to stay, we had food, we didn't have very fancy clothes--sometimes it passed on two or three generations. I remember my second older sister objected when she was going to country school because she had to wear the same old rubbers that I had started with and then my second sister got them and when she got them the buckles were coming off. But anyway, this is a kind of life--but we got along fine. I imagine there was a big garden? We had garden and we butchered hogs and sometimes we split a half of beef with the neighbor or something like that. So but we did not have freezers to keep the meat in at that time, so you either salted it down so you had salt pork or you could smoke it and dry it. We didn't have a smokehouse but some did. So you could do that. Any rate, I graduated in 1940 from high school. Fifty-seven in our class. Okay. And I might make a little sidelight on this. During the--since that time, the school has consolidated twice. So now there are four towns together. We lost our high school in about two thousand--2012 and it's now in Ida Grove. I thought it significant that in 2016, this last spring, with four towns contributing there were fifty-three graduates. Isn't that something. So that's what's happening to small towns and rural area of Iowa. Any rate, I worked as a hired hand. I graduated second in my class in high school, which I thought was kind of strange I didn't know about that until afterwards. But anyway, I did. And I stayed around. I got a scholarship from Buena Vista College but it was so little it didn't interest me and my folks had nothing but even less than eighth grade or eighth grade education so they had no way to, you know, to promote me any place. What kind of chores did you do on the farm? Well, I guess most of the routine things. There's a few things that you did. You fed the hogs. You had to feed the cows and you fed beef cattle if you had some. You milked the cows, most the days. So a farmer--I would say this. I wrote a little essay on--I called it a day's work. During corn pickin' time you'd get up about five-thirty in the morning and so would my mother get up at five-thirty and they would make the breakfast. We'd go out and we'd milk the cows and we'd feed the hogs and we'd harness the horses so we could go out in the field. So about seven o'clock--after breakfast--we'd head out and pick corn by hand. Now I did it one full year. My father did it for many years. We bought a corn picker the second year. But any rate, you start out picking at seven, you come back in at twelve and you'd unload it. We had a loading mechanism so we didn't have to shovel it out. Then we'd go and have lunch and about one-fifteen we'd be back out in the field, pick 'til about six, and unload again. Then that time we had to feed the hogs and feed the cattle and on unharness the horses and separate the milk and everything like that. Any rate, by the time--about seven-thirty or seven we'd probably have dinner, it was all prepared, and then we were ready to go to bed about eight. So that was kind of the routine through the fall. That's why I called it a day's work. [chuckling] Any rate, that's the kind of thing we did. I used to hire out to the neighbors some, day labor. I went with a neighbor at one time--he was a bachelor--so he had a stove--he had electricity in 1938--so he had a stove that would come on automatically and heat some food for lunch. One day he took us into town and we had lunch in town which for me was something brand new. I hadn't done that and I thought it was a wonderful way of having lunch, just see how other people lived. Hmm. How old were you? Well, I would be probably-- probably sixteen, fifteen or sixteen. Is that right. Okay. And then I hired out in several places and really I worked with Dad and hired out. So I got a little pin money that way. And then the war came along. 'Course Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in, what, in eighty--forty-one, I guess, so I just knew it'd be a matter of time because my father's health was good and he could still run the farm. So, I have the information--I was drafted, went to the armored force first, went to armored force school second, and I might say that at another time that is--why this happened I don't know--but my--I was assigned to school for maintenance of tanks and trucks, but I would say 90 percent of the fellows that I took basic with me went to Africa and then to take the replacements where Rommel had shot up First and Second Armored Division. But I went to school and then a little later on I went to another school. The only reason I can possibly figure out that I went to these schools is because I had a high score on my AGCT score test that the army gave. That's the only reason I can figure that out. Any rate, eventually they called a second school down which is really a engineering training and we all were shipped down to the 69th Infantry Division and I was again fortunately put into the artillery. And if you look in the book you'll find that the artillery had very few casualties but if you look in the book there's a lot of casualties in the rifle companies. We had about--well, on my side comment, I'd say about somewhere between 20 and 25 percent casualties and that was not high as far as divisions are concerned because we didn't get into the line until late in the Battle of the Bulge. Any rate, entered the army, got out, and then in January of forty-six and I went to school at Iowa State in March, lived in Friley Hall above the post office, I remember that. And I didn't--and I was paid by the G.I. Bill for which I have been ever grateful. There's no doubt about that. It just gave me all kinds--opened a lot of doors, a lot of doors. Started out in mechanical engineering. I didn't know about ag engineering at the time. And after I found out there was such a thing I switched to ag engineering because of my aggie background interest. So anyway, my schooling was--I can just pop touch in a few places--I've got a B.S. and M.S. in Ag Engineering. Later on I got an M.S. from the University of Iowa in mechanics and hydraulics and then I got my PhD back at Iowa State, co- major was civil engineering and soil mechanics. Okay. And then I went to school a little bit to had a year down to Missouri where I was--took some work in meteorology and climate near the ground which kind of fit in with what I was doing. So I finally got through a lot of different odd jobs, got married, we had three children by the time I finally got through school, and I became--actually I had worked as an instructor--I was an instructor at the time--I mean, when I was a senior in college because we were short on faculty in kind of a hangover from the war. Oh sure, sure. And so I first taught labs and later on I think as a senior, no I was working on my M.S. and I was a lecturer in a soil conservation course. But anyway I got appointed as a faculty member in 1959 and then I made, actually I made professor in three years--sixty-three I was made professor. Who were some of the teachers that you had at Iowa State? Well at Iowa State, there would be--huh, I should remember these people now. When you just ask me it's kind of--my memory does tricks nowadays. Should remember all these people. But Henry Geise was one. And, of course, Beresford was department head. And there were, now there were a couple, oh, Norval Currie was one that I remember particularly. And then a fellow that taught power machinery or at least was the head and he evades my memory now. But to just tell you the kind of things that happened at the time. I was working in the land and water resources area and they were a lot short of teachers in the power machinery in the labs. Well, I, those far from my mind, but in one day the professor came in and says I hear you're gonna teach this lab in power machinery. Well, it's clear out of my area but I went and did teach that power machinery lab. [laughter] Any rate. But that kind of thing happened and it was just a pinch on staff at the time and then which eventually ironed out and we had our first PhD in 1938 and then I think one of the fellows that come back from the war and got one, I think he was the third one, in about 1948. Fred Frevert[?] is he's from my hometown incidentally. Then he became one of the ranking people in the ag school before he went to Arizona. But any rate, I went through and went and worked in-- well, I did teaching and research primarily for the years that I was in--I was appointed acting head of the department in 1980 and they were looking for another head. Well there were two people that were interviewed that I remember. One was a fellow from down in Mississippi, I think, came up with his wife but his wife was not very happy because they had a child that was handicapped somewhat and that child had been acquainted with somebody that they were working with down in Mississippi and she didn't want to move. So he didn't come. The other fellow came from Virginia. And the thing I really remember--and I think I have these facts right--that he came here, interviewed--very good man, very good man. The only problem was that he was getting a little more salary in Virginia than they were paying the dean here in agriculture. [laughter] So they didn't hire him. [laughter] Okay. But that's what happened. Anyway, so I became-- next year they appointed me as head and I was head 'till eighty-eight and retired. And I guess maybe that's the story of my life. In fact, I just recently wrote a little essay called \"Climbing the Income Ladder,\" which is published over here in Northcrest for which I think I could get a copy for you if you're interested in it. But it really kind of told how--tried to compare the consumer price index through the years and how the salaries went up through the years and I even started with my gopher story and I don't know. But after I retired I'd been in administration predominantly for the last seven eight years. So I really retired. I dropped out of engineering for the most part and picked up photography and writing. I was in a couple writers groups and just change of direction. So that's the story of my life. I guess some of my life is there and those poems. I must--I've got dozens of essays back there in a stack that are written one kind or other--political--but one of my leanings has been in economics. I picked up a lot of interest in economics and mainly-- well, a lot of it has to do with the budget--the US budgets and various parts of the budget and the fact that, I guess, now lately, more or less, that we've had an extension of the people in terms of income that are in the top 1 percent or 5 percent and bottom 40 percent are pretty flat. And so when you see that the median income reported on income tax is about thirty-four thousand dollars a year that means seventy million people that report income tax have less than thirty-four thousand. So there's a lot of them that have twenty thousand or less. So you don't buy much health insurance with that. So that's kind of the thing that caught my interest. So maybe I became a economist or maybe a sociologist after I retired. But anyway that's kind of the story of my life. My strong interest in terms of hobbies, I enjoy the outdoors. I used to hunt quite a bit, but I haven't in recent years. But whenever we went fishing we'd camp with the kids and the family camped a lot--clear across Canada and Western U.S. and Southwest. So these are the kind of things that I was interested in and I think was good for the family. Just to be put together during these years. I have supported a church. Actually when I came here, well I grew up in a conservative church. And then in the army I bounced around wherever they had church. Then when I got--went back to Iowa State to go to school I went across the street to the Methodist church because it was close by. Then a friend invited me down to the First Baptist and I got--there would be seventy, eighty young people in that place--so I got acquainted there and I just stayed there. I guess I've been there now ever since. But I don't, you know, I don't say that I'm a great promoter of the church. I'm kind of laid back in that respect but I still look for the values that are there whether they're Catholic or whatever they are or Jewish in that. I am somewhat interested in the history of the church. And I've done quite a bit of that. But anyway this--and I still feel--in fact, I've got a book going up there on a shelf called The Relevance of Religion. Written by a guy--he's actually a-- I don't know it's one of the higher rank Protestant churches. But anyway that's kind of things I pick up. And I got a book back in 45--in 48--I bought called Peace of Mind by a rabbi which deals with narcissism and masochism and I thought, that was one of the best statements I found about the same. Now we talk about it a lot. Mm hmm. Well I don't know what else. You may have a question or two to ask but I think that's plenty for my portion. [laughter] Well, maybe let's go back to--before we started recording this you were telling about one of your adventures when you were young and capturing, was it the pocket gophers or whatever. Well I can go into some details on that. You mentioned that was one of your first I was the first-- That was the place I got a little side income. We never--no one in the family received allowances in those days. You got your room and board and you worked for it. But Dad didn't pass out allowances, I know that. He didn't have anything to pass out probably. At any rate. Well, it's pretty simple. The pocket gophers were inhabiting especially our clover fields and oats fields quite a bit and they seemed to enjoy the roots of the--especially alfalfa and clover. So what would you do? But we learned--my sisters did it, too; they trapped gophers--but they'd get-- you'd see these gopher mounds. There's always a place on the mound to show us where the gopher last put out the dirt. You've probably seen those. So you probe those and you dig the hole out and put a trap down there and dig it out a little bit so it's a little bit below the level of the path where the gopher runs. And you set the trap in there and then you cover it up. Now covering it up was a problem sometimes because you didn't have anything that would keep the dirt out. You might find some--enough grass that was tough enough to lay over there. Or you could go, an old cow pie or cow manure pie and lay it over there; that was a solid block and you could cover it up. That would be a way to keep it in the dark and you stake it down a little. But that was about it. You know, it wasn't anything very profound about trapping gophers but they did plug up the hole once in a while every--about, I'd say, half the time the old gopher found out something was wrong and he'd plug it up with dirt, see. You wouldn't catch anything, the vast part. And skunks--maybe I told you about this--but I got a trap mainly skunks and muskrats-- Now, were there bounties on skunks and muskrats, too? No, there were furs, we trapped and sold the furs. Oh for furs, okay. And muskrats were easy to stretch. You could get a number nine wire and put it out and they were clean. And they were worth about a dollar apiece. The skunks would be worth about--a nice skunk pelt was worth about two and a half dollars. But you had to-- the skunks were--well, first you had to be careful when you skinned them so they didn't hit the sack where they had their ointment that they sprayed around. But anyway, full of--the trouble with skunks were that they always had fat on the pelt so you had to pull that off and then you had to scrape the fat off. And while they were worth about two and a half dollars and normally the oder was a problem. And so when I went to high school I had to quick drop the skunks because I couldn't get it off my hands altogether. That smell in your hands. I can tell you a little story about that. And that's when I would be--before I went to high school we went to Storm Lake to Christmas shop for a little bit and I was wandering by myself and I was standing looking at a table-- it was an oblong table--looking along here and at what was on the table and there were two nice looking older elderly women that came down to the end of the table. And they were looking at the table and pretty soon one of them stood up and she stick her nose up in the air and says, do you smell skunk? Well I was down the other end the table. I knew that she smelled that skunk, I just didn't couldn't get it out of my hands. You always smelled skunk a little bit so that was the mark of a trapper at that time. [laughter] But anyway, you lived through it. So where did you sell them at? Did you take them into town and sell them? Well, they sold them in town and in town there would be a pelt buyer. And they--that's why I say-- skunks--well, I caught badgers. We never--there were no foxes around where we lived at the time, but I had caught badgers. Mink was a rare one, but, boy, they were worth ten dollars. But you seldom--you need to have the right place to catch mink. Let's see-- weasels, there used to be little white weasels and they weren't worth very much but they were easy to catch. They were worth about a dollar, I guess. But this is kind of what you did. And so maybe in the winter--over a winter season you might get make twenty-five dollars or something like that. Now where would you go trapping at? Well mostly on our own land. Okay. Where we farmed except--there was a river that was about a mile--about a mile and a half from where we lived, Boyer River. And there were muskrats there. So that's where--I trapped in the neighbor's farm. They didn't mind if I went out there trapping muskrats so I trapped muskrats along the river there and that's where we--that where I did most of my trapping for that. How many acres did your family farm? Well we had--the first farm we lived on we had a hired hand and-- it was two hundred and-- two hundred acres. Which was a big farm at that time. We had one hired hand. Oscar used to be-- Oscar was another immigrant that never married and he worked for other Swedes I guess is what it amount to. But any rate. That was large enough so it required another hand. When we moved to the other farm, Oscar had retired, and that was 160 acres. So I suppose, you figure in those days. corn-corn-oats-meadow was kind of a typical rotation. And--it-- I don't know what the cash flow was at the time at that, but it couldn't be very much. But in the twenties there were ups and downs but I think farmers--some of the farmers made--in fact, well, my father did work fifteen years before he became a farm operator and he started with a brother who died shortly after they started farming together. And, but Dad worked about fifteen years as a hired hand. And during that time, of course, he saved a little money and the other brother saved a little money so they got just got enough money together so they could buy the horses and machinery they needed. So that's the way they got started. I know my father. Picked up yellow jaundice somewhere--they called it yellow jaundice at the time--and he was quite ill. That was before he was married and he got over it mostly, but all the time that he lived he always had--whenever he had to work really hard it was his digestive system didn't work right. So he struggled with that and he died, well, he died when he was fifty-six. Eventually it got to the point where his liver couldn't stand it anymore. That's when I was in the army actually. So my mother had to move to town with the kids that were there. Another little sideline on that. They bought a house--pretty nice little stucco-covered house--at that time from a lady that was going to go to a home for twenty-two hundred dollars. Now that seems odd today. But even if you take ten times that or fifteen times that that's still not very much. But she sold that house for twenty-two hundred fifty dollars. My mother got that, she was fortunate, and when I got out of the army another friend, another army friend and I went and we put--replaced the shingles and didn't--my brother split the house out a little bit so they rented it to a single man in town and he had a room in the corner. And so this is the kind of way they made their way financially. My brother sold newspapers. My mother worked in a hatchery. My one sister was teaching country--well, I had--all three teachers her taught country school. They took what they called normal training in high school so they could teach country schools. Oh, okay. So you could teach at country schools just through a program through high school. Just through high school. And that's why a lot of these young girls, mostly girls at the time, later--earlier practically all men that taught these country schools, but by the time people came in they were essentially all women--young women--and they were probably eighteen, nineteen years old when they started teaching country school. And it seemed to work reasonably well. I went to, what, three or four country schools, I guess, so I had five or six different teachers at one time or other. And one thing I don't remember much of a problem of discipline in the schools. Now they always had a big farmer around that was the director of the school. So if the teacher had a little trouble with any students he might come and talk to them, you know. Okay. Tell them they had to straighten up. The only other time I remember much there were two brothers that got in a fight with each other all the time. They didn't seem to get bothered with anybody else. But discipline for the ones that I went to was not really a problem. One thing I found out in country school, too, is that well, first place, the background of people affects how they do in school, but even people from the same family did not have the same ability in school. Whether it was reading or whether it was arithmetic. And I remember one--two boys in general that one of them was very meticulous. He was methodical. And he always did well in school and I think he went on to college sometime. The other brother was slow, slower, anyway. And I always used to worry about him because his arithmetic was a problem. I remember even giving him a very sharp pencil one time trying to coax him along and do a little better in his arithmetic because I was a couple of years older and I always worried about these kids that couldn't quite keep up with their arithmetic. So anyway, but, it just didn't improve, his arithmetic. The sharper pencil didn't help, huh? It didn't really help his arithmetic. But anyway, you see these kind of things which you probably don't see in the schools nowadays because they separate all the classes now. I'm sure every teacher sees that some students are doing much better than other students. And then they have to weight why. Well, we always know that family background and culture and all this affects what kids can do in school. But I am also one that I am quite sure that your genetics has effects and nobody ever talks about that, but I'm sure that genetics has some effect on how well people do in school for certain kinds of things. Some might be science oriented and some people are--or are-- well, maybe sociology or psychology or journalism oriented. They do well and I know we have a daughter that's that way although she was going to go to med school. And she took calculus and a bunch of stuff and then she got interested in journalism and switched. So she became a journalist. She worked for Reuters in England for quite a few years. And then one other daughter, she started out in the plant world and she ended up in statistics having advanced degrees in statistics. Worked for IBM for a while. And our son, I guess he was following me along and became an engineer and he got an advanced degree in civil engineering. So this is kind of the way he went. But I feel sorry for the youngsters that are very bright and they live in a culture that really holds them down. And it's hard to get loose from that. At least that's my interpretation. I don't know how true that is. But I see that. So any rate. Maybe my true confessions should be wrapped up at this point unless you have other questions. Yeah. Do you want to talk a little bit more about your experience in the war? Well-- Because I know you kind of went through a number of different schools. Yeah, I went to school in the army. But I guess during the war. When our outfit, see we were put together about the beginning, early 1944 when they closed a lot of these systems of schools because I guess they must have thought that the war is proceeding along to the point where they didn't--we were really trained, we were in training in engineering thinking that maybe they'd need engineers later in the service and that's why we were there. They had picked out a few they had sent there. But any rate, we were sent to the 69th Infantry where we took basic training. We were separated into the artillery and various divisions of the division and we were shipped overseas after training in Mississippi, about November. And I remember going over in a storm. I remember that. In fact, I've got an essay in there about that. And seasickness has no priorities in terms of rank because I can remember officers that were laying flat on the deck and swimming in their own barf. They couldn't stand. It didn't bother me very much, strangely. But I did remember going up out on the deck and seeing how deep it was from the bottom of a wave to the top of a wave. You know, I had never seen anything like that. Huge. It's awesome. And going over, the only time we encountered anything--we were in a convoy--and I don't know what they sense, but they did kick out some depth bombs from the destroyers. They went along the side of our convoy there and they kicked out these buckets and they'd go down a ways and and then all of a sudden--unk!--you could feel it on the ship, the shockwaves through the water. But that's the only time that we had any problems there. We went to southern England. We were there a while. Went to some fire direction work in Wales, I remember. I went to London one time. Then went-- and London was dark and they were still dropping, no, they had these missiles they were dropping into the city. The vee-two or whatever? Yeah. They were still dropping them in with us after the worst bombing was over a long time. But anyway they were still dropping them and you'd hear the crunch, but that's about it and it was far enough away so it didn't bother. But no lights except little tiny spotlights in the streets. So we went in there. And I enjoyed the evening at a play, I remember that. Also, I enjoyed eating with a couple of young women. Well, the way they--we went to a restaurant and they didn't wait for people to clear for the next people to come in. These people would be eating and they weren't done but these people moved in on the other side and they ordered. When these people got up and left why then somebody else moved in. Well that's what happened. These two young women came in there--they had blue suits on--and Bill Roberts and I were over here. Well we go visit with them a little bit and they--I noticed that one of the boxes they had down there on the floor was BBC. Okay. And the were representatives of the BBC. But we had to leave and so somebody else could come in so we never got any more than a conversation with them that I remember that. [laughter] As a young soldier. But we went on line, well, some of our--the Battle of the Bulge started in the eighth of December and they took some of our troops out of our division and put them in as replacements in the Battle of the Bulge. Now we were in artillery so they kept our artillery intact. We went to LaHavre, then we travelled across France and we ended up on the-- well, we ended up between the Siegfried and the Maginot line actually. And we just laid there in the woods for a couple of weeks, at least, until they--well, this heavy difficult part of the winter was earlier and we hear about that a lot of guys had frozen feet and stuff, but we got in late. One other thing I do remember, too. They did not have enough good clothes for the army. Now some of them did in the infantry, but I know we didn't have good clothes. We had gloves that were leather face and cloth back here but they just weren't warm enough. And we did eventually get mittens, that time, I think, about the time we were between the two lines. And the two weeks we rested near the Siegfried Line and I got a story about that. But any rate, when the ground became more solid so the tanks could stay on top and better then we started to move. And now it had been some time, must have been about the end of February, I guess, I remember, but the infantry went through and we fought them. We went from there to the Remagen bridge which few of our trucks got across before it went down. We also went every as an artillery unit up north a ways and we came back then we went down round Kessel, crossed on a pontoon bridge, and then went up-- cut back up with what were the first army at the time. And we had--there were probably three or four times when we stopped and there were some rather severe skirmishes with our infantry and we were involved in the artillery. And I've written a poem about that. The thing I remember most--well, Leipzig I've told you about where we surrounded the area where the monuments that defeated Napoleon. Then later we went to near another city-- and I don't know why they did it, but there were troops in that city that were bent on resisting our troops and it was near the end of the war. And why they did decide to do that, I don't know, but they did. So our troops pulled back and we-- and our troops surrounded the city--at least on the side that we were on--and they called in the artillery. And there's an article in here [taps envelope on table] about that but that town was really blasted and we dropped--I can still remember that we had Long Toms, they were big guns and were back further, they might be back ten to twenty miles from the front. And we would stay back maybe usually seven to two miles or something like that from the front that's where we or our guns were usually located, sometimes closer, but about that far. But I remember the missiles going overhead from those Long Toms, I can still hear them in my memory going over, but they said there were ten thousand rounds of shrapnel and white phosphorus that they dropped on the city and then, of course, they gave up. But why they tried to resist it at the time when it was essentially over I don't know because I know that we must've killed a lot of people in that city with our artillery. But I--it didn't bother my conscience at the time. It was just something we were doing, that's all. But I think about that every once in a while that that was wrong. But the Germans resisted so we used the mechanisms we had. So where were you at then when you found out the war was over? Well, our division moved on east near the Elbe River, Torgau, and a portion of the infantry regiment that we supported were, well, went up on a reconnaissance and they went up to the Elbe River. Well, the Russians were on the other side. So we were the first outfit that met the Russians and they had a little party. They found out they were friends and the Russians and the G.I.'s that were there in that particular group--it wasn't but couldn't have been over twenty men or so that were in that group--but then they--then, of course, we had to come back--and then all the generals had to come forward and they got all their pictures taken at celebrating the unit with the two armies. But I remember that. [laughter] I pry got pictures of that some place but they had a couple Russians and a couple of our, well, the general in charge of our division, he was there. But any rate, that's where we ended the war. And then the war did not end quite then. We pulled back to near, well, actually it was northwest of Leipzig to a town called Leuna where they mined coal and they made fuel for the planes out of the coal-- Okay.\r\n\r\n- -in that town. And it was plastered--it had been bombed heavily but we lived on and we had, well, we asked the Germans to get out of there. They moved somewhere else and we moved into their houses around the edge of the town. And we really had a kind of an enjoyable month there, I remember. We did--sometimes we did sentry duty, but I remember hunting deer in Germany with an M1 rifle which was what we had and it was the best weapon we had. And I know ! shot a couple of deer and brought them back and turned them over to the cooks. I don't know if they ever used them, maybe, I think, they may have. But that's when I learned something else about people. Well, I was an old farm boy so I knew how to butcher hogs and cattle. Well, I had these guys from New York City that were in our outfit, too. And they went out hunting and so the first time one of the guys I helped him clean it and I said, I'm not gonna do this anymore, you're gonna have do it. But one of the things that really turned them off, you know, when you open up the belly and they had to hang on the entrails so they come out. That took care of that. They never did come back hunting again. [laughter] They were done butchering, huh? They were done. Well they were old artillery men, you know, but that kind of thing's hard to stomach, but if you lived with them before it wasn't--just part of the job. So that's kind of a sidelight on things. Yeah. But any rate, we came back, we were--the division was divided. We were sent on west after being there about a month in occupation and the only thing that's memorable about that, well, two things maybe. One is we went to La Havre to a camp and something it was bad food there because I remember the guys, you know, they had running for the toilets in the middle of the night. I can remember the boots jangling heading for the toilet because they had diarrhea. The other thing was we were on board a ship on the way back, they dropped the first atom bomb and we were aboard ship. And that was a shock for me, I have to say, because it was such an unusual weapon. And I didn't know what to expect. But anyway we were shipped back and we were supposed to go to Japan. So I was assigned to go to camp in Arkansas, but I was home on vacation before being shipped when they dropped the second bomb. And then the war was over. So instead of going to Arkansas they sent me over here to Camp Grant in Illinois for a little while because I don't know why, but anyway, I guess they thought I could write. Any rate they had--they were discharging people that had more of what they called points at the time and had been in the army longer. So the senior people in the longest were discharged first until they got down to us and then they discharged us. But I was in there interviewing soldiers that were being discharged about what they did and what they could do now as a support for them in the civilian life. And one thing I remember about that if you were a rifle runner in the infantry and you were being discharged and you're supposed to write up something that's gonna help them in their new job in the world what do you say? So, I kind of developed a spiel about how they took care of their equipment and their guns and cleaned them and all this stuff, but that's the only thing you could write about. What other experience did they have that might help them in civilian life? I don't know. But anyway, the only other things we ran in a time or two, I remember one black fellow came in and his wife apparently had married somebody else while he was overseas and he was wondering how I could help him. Well, I didn't know. I sent him to the chaplain. I didn't know what else to do. [laughter] But anyway, I did that for about two months and I was retired, or discharged. So anyway, that's the story of my army. But it was not very thrilling. There were some times early when the shrapnel from German artillery came in pretty close but otherwise we always managed to stay back somewhere so we weren't really close in to the fighting where there was mortars or where there was close-in cannons, whatever. But we were not set and so the artillery had not many losses. And we had, well I would say as I remember it and I didn't ever see this, but I was told that our kitchen truck ran over a mine and it blew it up and the guys that were in there got killed. There's a couple of guys driving the truck. But otherwise we had one other killed but otherwise we had very few fatalities. So, you always look back and you say why did I escape. I don't know. But anyway I did and I was very fortunate to get the G.I. Bill to go to school and life has been good for the most part. I don't really have any complaints. I enjoyed my time at Iowa State. I will say in the eighties it was a difficult time because the salaries were very low in the late seventies and early eighties. And I think we were down near the bottom of the ten that we like to be compared to and it just stayed that way pretty much until Eaton came in. And I don't know what he did with the legislature, but they provided a lot of money. So the last year that I was department chair--\r\n\r\n- -couple of things happened. One is that they had provided 10 percent increases--that much money to provide an average of 10 percent increases in salary. And then there was a note that came down and I don't know that it came from the president but it came from the deans, I know, and I had never seen anything like this before, it was the last year I was hit. They said there was 10 percent increases on the average and they wanted to see salary increases from zero to 20 percent. Now I had never seen anything like that. And maybe there were some colleges that did that but I know that I had the choice. So then you tried to pay the people that were doing the most and the best and then, but I never did go to zero [laughter] I went from five to fifteen, I remember that. But that was a--that was a kind of a shock. Anyway I wasn't in there long enough to take advantage of all the salary increases from eighty-eight to ninety-two. There was about 50 percent increases in salaries during those four years on average. Is that right. I remember that and I kind of regretted not being around so I could take advantage of that in my retirement but I get along. I was going to ask you since you were either taking classes or teaching in the ag engineering department did you work with Professor Davidson? Well, I knew Davidson. Davidson was gone. You know, I had, well, I had written that book. I have a book on the history of the department which you probably have. Mm-hmm. I met him. That's all. He was--he had been in China. See the new department head came in 1946 and Davidson went to China. He had some ties there with students that had been there. So he went back there. Then they had, whatever it was, a revolution in China. So he escaped got out of there before they got cornered anywhere and he came back. So he was here and he--I remember he gave a seminar one time. It must have been off the cuff but he was an elderly man at the time. I thought why did they put the poor guy up there for a seminar because, you know, he had, well, there was nothing really new. But it was just an honor to him, I guess, to say--repeat some of the things he had done. But he did amazing things. You know he was department head from, what, about 1905 to 1945. Mm hmm. Forty years. And he was a good man. He laid, of course, we became a department about 1908, but we were a part time part of Agronomy for a while and then in oh eight, and finally we had our first master's degree, I think, in 1950, first PhD in 1938. But Davidson was a good friend of both deans and they got along pretty well and I still have to admire the guy as being a leader at the time when it was most-- when they were putting things together. But anyway, Davidson was there and gave a seminar and I met him but that was about it. We never had no interaction except for that seminar that I remember. Now who was chair of the department or head of the department when you started teaching? Well, Bakkup was head before me. And then before that was Beresford. Well, Beresford came in essentially at the end of the war. Okay. And then he was--he had been in Idaho at the time there were no department heads-- Bockhop was the first department head that had a PhD. And I think there was some contention about it at the time. I can see why because Giese had been around a long time and I think a lot of people thought, well, he should be promoted to department chair and the other guy who was there--Barger [?], he was the fellow I was trying to think of the name in power machinery--and he was also on the same level and department in terms of rank. So I think whoever was trying to make the decisions didn't dare want to put Giese over Barger or Barger over Giese. So they went outside and got a department chair. And I don't know whether that was a mistake or not, but anyway, that's the way it was. So we worked with Barger through the years and I guess you know as well as I do there are all kinds of people that are--that are administrators. [laughter] That's one way to put it, yes. But I am amazed nowadays though that of the number of women that we have for deans at Iowa State. It's really remarkable. It used to be just Home Ec, but then the Agriculture, Engineering, Science, Vet Med-- I might've missed some, but anyway--they are women now that are deans of those colleges. And I think some of them are very good people. Probably all of them are. But you take the lady that came from Germany, I don't know why she came here to be--maybe she had another job here, but she is a very good scientist. And she must be she--she probably--I don't know where is--is the library administered under science? Do you remember where they are? No. The dean of the library reports directly to the provost. Oh is that where it is. Well that's good. That's good. Well anyway a little bit off the cuff reminiscing a little bit of opinion. But at any rate right. Life's been pretty good. So what was--what were some of the major research projects that you worked on that you're most proud of, I guess? Well, when I--when we first started, well, we had Prevert [?] was in charge and then Glenn Schwabb [?] then Glenn went to Ohio and then I--that's why I stayed here at Iowa State actually because I was interviewing in California at the time. But that position opened up and I thought, well, I like it here and I can stay. But any rate, we were doing some fairly applied kinds of things in drainage, in irrigation, some drainage research of various kinds. And then we got into water balances more of kind of the hydrology of agriculture and then we started to move into computer, well computer modeling of watersheds, little watersheds. So we were trying to trace the movement of sediment and water within an ag system. Well the thing that happened, we got into the chemistry side of it. My first two graduate students were not chemists. You see we had a little chemistry but we worked on a movement of some of the chemicals--might be just plain nitrogen--with the water gradient and against the water gradient and stuff like that. We had some fieldwork out in western Iowa on an experimental farm. So that's where we got--and then later on, I think the big change probably changed direction of our department. Two things. One is I went--I was a professor at the time working in the--I was area leader at the time--went to the department chair and I said that--Bockhop was on at the time--you know, we're getting into an area that involves a lot of chemistry and I said we really are not capable of handling that. And then there was a fellow that one of our staff was playing softball with, he was one of Spedding's graduate students and he was a farm boy from South Dakota and he went to the School of Mines and got his doctorate under Spedding. Well, he was looking at two things. One, he was interested in agriculture, yet, and also he would rather work with the university than go to industry at the time. And apparently the openings in universities weren't anything that were special at least in the area of chemistry. So he had expressed some interest. So he did. He came in on our department on a postdoc, which was a pitiful payment at the time, but he was interested. So he worked with us in the field in western Iowa on, well it's kind of on water balances, sediment loss, chemical losses, water loss on these little, well, they were really small acreages. They weren't even an acreage, I guess they would be maybe part of an acre, little plots. But any rate, we had that. Then the EPA came along and had an offer to-- they were trying to get into this field more, too, but they had a grant available and it was a sizable grant--it was a million dollars--at that time that was big money. What time--what year was this? That would have been in sixty--about sixty-six, sixty-eight--sixty-eight maybe. Any rate, we put in--we had done a lot of preliminary research in a watershed up north, northeast Iowa and some other people that worked on that, but anyway, put together a proposal for research on that involved that ag area where the idea first to what's happening now and then what would happen if you made major changes in the management of those farms. Well, we submitted it and we went down to Athens, Georgia, and by that time Jim Baker, who was a chemist, and then we had a fella from agronomy and anyway, we went down there and narrated them with our proposal. And, by golly, we got that grant. There were other schools that were proposing it, too. Now we were at some disadvantage. Fortunately the EPA people didn't come up and look out our lab because we had a really grubby lab in that old building. But we had good people and if we could get good equipment we might do well. Well, anyway with the group the EPA gave us the grant and they gave us--out of that million we spent 250,000 about on equipment. And that's what set us up--set Baker up for years afterwards because they let us keep that equipment. So we got that grant and the first five, well, it lasted five years, and we got a lot of good field data and we hired some students and enough to fill out our match, which is a good thing. There were several students that they were always in our department. I remember one young lady that needed the money, but she was in science somewhere and she worked, she did some of the analysis in our lab. But anyway we got through that and when the end of the time there was friction between the EPA and the USDA because the USDA was also doing this kind of work. In fact, they had watersheds down in southwest Iowa. And so the money to go keep on going was not--was blocked so we didn't get the second round. Well, in a way I was kind of glad because I don't know that we could've learned a lot more if we'd have gone another five years. We got a lot of data in the first five years in terms of sediment transport and what if you've got a pasture versus a corn crop versus a larger watershed so it, but it turned out. We did quite well. And we wrote the reports for that about nineteen seventy--? It was in the seventies, anyway. So there's a report like that in the library, three big books of data mostly. But anyway, that's--we went through that. So by that time, well, I was still working with graduate students, some of them foreign students, which incidentally that two from Iran that came here under the Shah. Very bright young people. One was a young woman and one was a young man and they were very bright, very good students. When the Shah was deposed, we got one, I remember, he just wasn't ready to come here to Iowa State. Okay. So I don't know what happened--I think he washed out. I think his wife left him and I don't know what happened here in this country. Any rate, Baker stayed on and he has done very well at work. I think he's just--he is a university professor, I think, before he retired. And a fella in agronomy, he was older and he retired. Do you remember his name? Schrader. Bill Schrader. Bill Schrader. Okay. William Schrader. He was--so he had a lot of international experience and with the USDA traveling around. But anyway the three of us were the team. And so that really set us up and the interactions of some of the chemicals and they were actually working with some of the chemicals later on, Baker did, and you'd find out what--how does it transport in the soil profile, how does it break down, how does it move off the land, stuff like that. So these are the kind of stories of what happened and I know the USDA lab here still does some of these kind of things. So that's--and then teaching? Well we did some of the practical stuff. I got in Iowa-- I went to the University of Iowa and I got into hydraulics so I taught some applied hydraulics courses for a while. And then I got into sediment transport courses and then, I guess, I try and, well I was in some other things, too. [inaudible] are a few things I remember. But any rate, when I became department chair, of course, I was taking seminars and things like that but I wasn't teaching classes. But anyway this is kind of what we did, starting out with pretty applied things and gradually build it into some water balances in the computer systems--computer models of watersheds, into the chemistry, and about that time then Baker came in and we moved fairly heavily into the interaction of hydrology and chemicals. You know, I guess when I think of ag engineering I've always thought of the mechanical side of things--The machinery. --Right, the machinery. Yep. And that's been quite a bit--quite important actually when you look at the evolution of the machines. We raised fifty bushel an acre of corn back in 1940. Maybe forty to sixty depending on. We weren't raising many beans yet. But then we picked corn by hand in 1940. In 1941 we got a one-row picker. But you can see the evolution of machines now. It just--it's just amazing. And, well, I wrote a story I just finished now on robots that I turned in. But, well, machinery is not exactly robots. You've got one person driving this monster, but he can control the chemicals that go out from the boxes and some of them are ridiculously wide, but every one of those little boxes has got a symbol up there and whether it's functioning or not. But it is amazing what one person can do now. When there used to be, well, we had one person could probably farm 160 acres corn, corn, oats, meadow. But he'd have horses. Then we had some tractors, of course, in the early thirties, but when you look at the machinery systems now that are in agriculture, that's why northwest Iowa here is reducing in population. And there's a few that aren't, but not very many. And, what, two-thirds of our counties now are dropping in population, I think. And there's--I really think that a lot of the hard feelings that are--they're just people out in the small town Iowa--and I have ties with my small town and I have a sister living in one-- have had an impact on the election and I can quote some figures. I looked up, well, I get the hometown paper. And the county of Sac County voted 3 to 1 for Trump. In my hometown, 4 to 1 for Trump. Now, it has never been really like that. There's always been some competition, maybe 45 to 55 or something like that, but not such dominance. Now then what is the mood of the people out there that cause that change. And I--I just-- I don't think there's much hope there in those towns. Everything is going down. And when you look at that my hometown--I've written about my hometown, to the requiem of small town Iowa. Back when I was living there or even in the fifties yet, they had veterinarians, they had pharmacists, they had doctors, all these people. Now there are none of these people in town. No, not even a grocery store. You got up on the edge of town there's a filling station that you can get pizzas and stuff at. But there are--there's some bankers, a couple. There's one bank at least, maybe two. There's some lawyers, a couple lawyers. And then there's teacher. Now there are no other professionals in town. Except there are some retired people there. Now, you know the energy is gone. Essentially is gone. I don't know what kind of small town you grew up in Northwest Iowa, but you can see it there now. Some small towns that happen to have some kind of an operation that hires people, like they get along all right. But most of them are not. Do you think Iowa State, over the years, has contributed to that or could they have done more to help small towns? Well, I would guess-- yeah, I guess what happens, I would think, is that people are--. Well, what's the motivations? You're trying to make a living in these towns. And so if you're--I remember this one kid who was in my brother's class. His father was a drayman and he hauled junk in town. Well he got into high school and he was a smart guy and he became a lawyer. And he asked him what he thought of us his home town. And he said he thought it was a good town to be from. [laughter] Because his father never got to be any more than drayman--barely made a living. So there's-- you look in the various direction and try to say where is your hope and where is your direction that can help you make a decent living for you. If you're going to have a family you'd like to-- you have to be able to survive. So I suppose a lot of the things that the university does helps contribute to the reducing of the size, I mean of enlarging the acreage of farming. You couldn't farm without these big machines. So we contribute, of course, big John Deere and all these contributed--the Vermeers--they all contribute to that, too. But that's the way agriculture is going. And that's why we can feed our people. We are now making raising two hundred bushel corn instead of fifty bushel and that'--part of that is genetic breeding and that's the university. Local people don't do that. So I would say the university has definitely had impact in the trends that were going on and I don't know that they do it alone but they haven't--they certainly must have some impact. I can't deny that. So, I don't know what the future is for a small town Iowa, but I just am not very hopeful, to be honest with you. It just--you have to have a way to make a living, so if there's no place to make a living in that town the young people that grew up there will go to a place where there's jobs. Well, just like we did. Yes, just like we did. Just like our kids did. We've got one son in California, got a daughter in New York, and one daughter in London. We hardly ever see them, you know, once a year maybe. But the doors are open for them. And I think-- I'm not sure if this is crazy or not there's a lot of smart kids that don't have opportunities that need encouragement of some kind and I don't know that our political system helps them very much. I think kids need prekindergarten or some kind of help even at that stage because they're growing up-- if there's a single mother with two or three kids and she can't hardly make a living and she can't stay around those kids. They're really at a big disadvantage. And-- it would be nice if they could get a little-- because you know youngsters that have no discipline at home they're going to be scrambling all over the place. Well, our son sent their boys-- they didn't necessarily have a discipline problem while he was working there was a school nearby that he turned them loose because his wife is a veterinarian and he's an engineer so they're both working. Mm-hmm. So they turn their kids loose in that school. Well, kids, they get used to a certain discipline and guidance when they're quite young, like three years old it begins. And so those kids then are kind of used to the kind of routine that happens in school. You turn a youngster in that's five or six years old in the first grade and a lot of times you know they can't sit still, they're going to be running around and it's very difficult to teach him. Now maybe you know more about that than I do, but if you have kin that are working in those areas if they're teachers, why, they know about that. And they don't dare say much about it because they think, well, they're biased, you know. But you gotta get them started right. OK, well, I think--I think that's--I think we covered quite a bit of ground. I don't think I have anything else to ask you. Is there anything else you wanted to add before we shut off the recording? No I would just add that in recent years I haven't had much contact with the library because I don't go over there, but, you know, through the years there's a lot of interesting places in the library. Old records, oh, and newspapers of all kinds. Magazines of all kinds that are available. Now, our Ames library does a pretty good job of that, too. But buried in that library is a huge lot of information that I suspect a lot of times don't get much use like the stuff I'm turning in. [laughter] Yeah, but I appreciate Iowa State and our grandsons are looking at Iowa State. They're in California. Well, they're, you know, our son didn't marry 'til he was, what, thirty-four. His wife was almost that old, too. So they're--that's why they're in their--and I didn't marry until I was twenty-nine--so they were scattered quite always between our generations. But any rate, they interviewed here and I think they've been accepted and they also are going to get them some scholarship support, which surprised me. But, they're checking with a lot of schools. One of them is looking at the University of Iowa, has some interest in music, but he'd like to get in the business world, so he's trying to tack them together if he can. And then, of course, the University of California, they're a little more rigid in their entrance requirements just because of the competition. But in some ways I think it'd be smart if they went to another school for a year or two and picked up their math and things like that and then could transfer to another school. But how this is going to work out, they'll find out this spring, I think, very shortly now they'll see where they were accepted and where they were not. But I think Iowa State has quite a good reputation around the world. You don't hear too much about it, maybe we hear more about it now because of our basketball team, but I'm not sure that's the thing that holds up the reputation of the school. And while we may not be among the elite, we have a pretty high standing in the country. And so, I'm supporting them. We've got a new building now which is beautiful. Which I didn't see, but--which I never thought was going to happen because of the direction things are going, but between, well, actually I think the governor maybe helped even a little bit. We have--he even made a tour of the various parts of the campus and one time he's walking through our building and he saw that nothing very fancy there. Some of it was a little bit grubby. But he got into the office of the head at the time and he had a map up there and had a marker for every student that had graduated and were still working in Iowa. Almost every county has got a graduate from our department. And he was very impressed by that to learn how many of them were staying in Iowa. So I got a theory he might have given him a little verbal boost and that doesn't help--that helps if the Governor gives him a boost. He doesn't boost some things that I like, but it's all right. He's got his job now. He'll have a full hands working on China, I can tell you that. [laughter] Well, anyway thank you for your patience. And I don't know what'll happen to all these, you can modify this thing down something, but it's one viewpoint from somebody that started from scratch whose parents didn't have much of anything. And it shows that you can do it. And sometimes it's maybe chance and good luck that certain things happen, but a lot of times it's just being consistent and working at it and trying to have decent values in why you do things. These things put together. And-- the politics at the time impacts what you do, I know that, but we shall wait and see what happens here for the next generation. I'm not going to be around very long to do this, but I can look and see, well, what's going to happen to our kids and our grandkids. And that's nine--that is 2050? Boy, that's a long ways off and a lot of things can happen before that and I am enough of a kind of conservative guy that I think we just can't go wild spending money. We gotta be leaning back a little bit. In fact, I've written a letter to both Grassley and Ernst about some of the things that I think and one of the first things I said is we got to ease away a little bit trying to get expenditures and our debt under control. Now that's very difficult to do now because of the health--well health and military, those two things are really huge in the budget. And that's why I got involved in economics. I write some--got a little booklet about stories--about six or seven articles about income distribution, about national debt, about balance of trade, all these kind of things, just from what I pick up. So I have interest in these things. And it gets--stimulates--now, I don't know, I suppose I should just be enjoying myself more than I do, but I really enjoy doing these things more than some other things. [laughter] All right. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for coming in. Thank you for your patience. I knew you do some good things there and I think there's a lot of stuff. I looked up there and I've been through the archives some. It always makes me smile. There's some people that have done great things and they've only got about a foot in the library. And then there's other people that I--one of them was in our department--had stuff scattered out there for twenty feet. And I thought, why in the world does he have all that space when this other guy that really has prominence in some things, he's only got a foot or two. And you see that. I'm sure you see it. [laughter] Yes. Yes I do. All right, well, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29165/file/96799#t=0.0,5186.45551"}]}]}]}