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Before I introduce this afternoon speaker, I'd like to remind you that tonight at eight o'clock in the Sunroom, John Henry Faulk will be speaking on, we the people. Our speaker this afternoon, I'm very proud and privileged to introduce, is Representative Jim Leach of the 1st district, which just happens to be my district. He is beginning his sixth term in office, Mr. Leache's background academically, he graduated from Princeton in Political Science, he received his Master's degree at John Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, in Soviet Politics, and he spent three years of study at the London School of Economics, researching economic and political policies of the Soviet union. In 1971 and 1972, Mr. Leach was a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly. He also was a delegate at the Geneva Disarmament Conference. In 1976, he was the Director of the Midwest region, federal home loan bank board. At the present moment, Mr Leach is a member of the committee on banking, financing, and urban affairs, a ranking member on the subcommittee on international trade investment and monetary policy on that subcommittee for financial institutions, supervision, regulation, insurance, then subcommittee for domestic monetary policy. He's also a member of the committee on foreign affairs, a ranking member on the subcommittee on Asian and Pacific affairs, a ranking member on subcommittee on arms control and international security and science. Mr. Leach is also the chairman of the Ripon Society, chairman of the Republican Mainstream Committee, Secretary for Congressional Arts Caucus, immediate past chairman, the arms control and foreign policy caucus. And now is my great privilege and honor to introduce to you Representative Jim Leach.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, pretty much. Let me just say that I've been given the subject matter of The National Security Council, of the constitution and the rule of law. And I'd like to address that, particularly from the issue that that has immersed the country in the foreign affairs arena for the last several months for this whole issue of the Irangate or some people call it, Iranmuck. Let me just say that there are several aspects of this particular part of our foreign policy. One is simply issue of judgment, one is the issue of law. And then, as it relates in my own view, definitively to the constitutional process. Let me first though deal with the issue of judgment, because this is what has sparked, what I think has been a reordering of public assessments of not only foreign policy but administration professionalism. In a judgmental manner, I think many Americans have come to the conclusion that using ransom for hostages doesn't work, particularly when one realizes that you pay something today to save somebody, you make someone else more vulnerable tomorrow, and particularly as well when the ransom is being paid in terms of arms, to a government that held our embassy hostage six or seven years ago. And in all probability was responsible for the bombing at our Beirut barrackS that killed 240 yard Marines, three years ago. In addition, I think there is a great question. This country, whether the United States should embark from the policy of tilting towards Iran in this particular context of this particular struggle. My own sense is that we'd to be more concerned with it either hand in this but not an even hand in this of trying to evenly distribute arms, but in even hand this of not distributing any arms at all. And if there's a case for reproaching mountain Tehran, which there may well be, if you're gonna use arms for such an effort, it should be in the humanitarian side, such as food, not in the arms giving arena. There's also concern that laws have been violated in this particular arms giving process. And some irony that the justice department was prosecuting people for selling arms to Iran in precisely the same way, at precisely the same time the people in the White House were attempting to trade arms. In addition, there's question of whether The National Security Council has taken on powers that haven't been envisioned by Congress or American heritage, and whether in Iran it's preempted the traditional role of the Department of State and in Central America, the traditional role of the department of defense. And finally, there's a spectrum of an administration, which in implicitly urging American support for the Central American policy, whether its violated the neutrality act in particular, even though it may be legal, whether there's a seamless this question about the American government, whether it'd be the Department of State or The National Security Council, or possibly the CIA panhandling funds from our allies and friends around the world to conduct a rather controversial aspect of American foreign policy in Central America. There's a case, of course a case that can be made that there's less hear than meets the eye. That isn't a compassionate effort by an American President to get the release of American hostages and the CIA station Chief using Israeli intermediaries, within American officials led just in a sense kind of accidentally to escalating this judgment. The trouble is, his experts on terrorism and this part world to find out what's good one day can be not so good another, and that we got involved in a process in which trying to solve today's problems made tomorrow's much worse. We also have a question, particularly in the high figures that apparently we attempted to sell our missiles or tow missiles to Iran of double billing. Part of that's a legal issue with relation to Central American, whether there has been a fraud perpetrated of all places against the defense department. But in addition, there's a question of whether policy makers are very good with double billing with double dealers. And that's in effect what we've done with Iran and whether or not that you're gonna see retribution of a different nature because of that, no one knows at this point in time. In any regard, I personally think the hullabaloo about Iran might well have passed, if it weren't for the spectra Swiss bank accounts of public officials taking the fifth amendment and what appears to be an escalation in the prosecution of an illegal war in Central America. On a scale of one to 10, if we'd looked at the Watergate issue, in terms of personal aggrandizement of authority, at least in an ambition sense it appears of Watergate is a 10, here in Irangate really have kind of a one. On the other hand, there was virtually nothing involved in the Watergate episode, other than one of the impeachment charges looked at by the house judiciary committee one that feel really badly that related to the escalation of the war in Cambodia, that related to the war and peace issue in Irangate you have a great deal and issue here. You also have issue the question of the rule of law, the separation of powers function of the constitution. And intriguingly of the embarrassments that apply to the United States Congress, one of the greatest in the sixties was the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which was really what in essence was the giving of license to the executive to apply a war at the President's discretion. Impressively Congress passed on a timely basis, something called the Boland Amendment. And if you recall what the Boland Amendment stipulated as kind of an antithesis to the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, was that the executive could do nothing to attempt to subvert the government of Nicaragua that has overthrow it, or to do anything to lead to a border dispute between Honduras and Nicaragua. Intriguingly after passing what was a very impressive effort to circumscribe the administration authority Congress didn't appear to give a hoot about what it passed. And I am personally stunned that the law has been violated, but if Congress didn't really care very much about having a challenge to the executive, at least on a timely basis. And my thesis for today's discussion is that we have a crisis in foreign policy accountability stemming in part from major issues in the times, and part from Aboriginal roles being played out by the executive and Congress in ways that lack of historical perspective. And it's my sub-thesis that it's your Congress, particularly the House of Representatives, that's attempted to carve-out a new and more assertive role in foreign affairs. One that the public finds a bit uncomfortable and that in so doing has largely failed to carry out the role for which the constitution devised for it. And that the executive in what might be described stain for Congress has attempted to take on new powers that stretch legality and stretch the constitution. And whereas in White House we have a belief that strong leaders are unbound by congressional restraint that is law. In the Congress, we have an instinct to criticize matched only by a lack of desire to be held accountable. In the fourth estate, the media, there is an interesting unique syndrome, that the press knows what to do, but has a bias inducing bitterness caused by its inability to participate correctly to that. To date, in regard to the institutions that the Congress heard that the constitution deals with the first and second branches of government, I think you've seen the President take on a much stronger role in relationship to Congress, that might've been perceived by our founding fathers. And this particular President has largely made mincemeat of Capitol Hill. And while Congress has moved in new directions not envisioned by the constitution in recent years in the arms control arena, partly in response to public leadership in the unelected direction set as public leadership in the nuclear freeze movement, the ground zero movement, other arms controlled movements for which my own sense is someone in Washington had paid attention to, but none in Washington have led and passed resolutions like the nuclear freeze. It has followed those resolutions with basic capitulation to the executive on issues like SDI, the military buildup, and a foreign policy that relates far more to transferring arms and transferring economic humanitarian and food assistance. From a constitutional perspective, it's interesting that the debates upon issues like a nuclear freeze imply something a little bit new. That is Congress trying to intervene in the treaty making as contrast with the treaty ratification process. But the language has always been hortatory rather than of a nature that might be considered to be definitive and binding. On the other hand, having made these broad efforts to stretch the constitution from a congressional perspective, Congress has backed off on the authorities for which Congress does have a constitutional role. For example, purse string authority. And basically, it shown itself to be far more weak-kneed than the prevlic that might be implied in the statutes that relate to the nuclear freeze. And the President's premise that you need to build up in order to be cut back has been bought. And the American people, intriguingly are probably a little closer on policy issues to the Congress than the President. On the other hand, there is very little desire in the public at large for Congress rather than the President to actually run foreign policy. So you have an ironic situation that public attitudes are a little closer to Congress, but there is absolutely no appetite anywhere. And I think properly, this is the case for Congress itself to take the lead role in the foreign policy arena. With regard to the Irangate issue, my sense is the American public wants something dumped be put back together again by changing the King's horses and changing the king's men, but not the King himself. It's clear that the little man they've been playing, have made a neck obsessed with attempting to out Kissinger, Kissinger. And I personally think it's time for a new replacement and it's time more importantly for a return to traditional institution decision-making for open covenants to be openly arrived at. But it's also clear that very few more than the Teflon that is so generously coated this President determined to Velcro and the President must remain fully garbed, even though his policies and advisors appear to have lost their claws and their way. It's my contention, and I'll be a little bit predesive in this that we're confronted with a failure of leadership in America, both Democratic and Republican. And I stress democratic because when the party in power runs in muck, it's the obligation of the party out of power to present constructive alternatives. And I have personally seen brittle stomach of serious democratic national leaders to take on the real issues of our time. And I wanna make an exception here because I think democratic leaders and I will have done rather well. Harold Hughes, Tom Harkin and Burke Fidel have been real leaders on many of the issues that I think are of import in American public life, but the National Democratic Party has symbolized that candidates at the national office has shown grave reluctance to take on this President when he is there. And for example, we're on a timely basis, was the national leadership of the democratic party on the intervention in Lebanon, one of the great mistakes of the last several decades? The savaging of the UN system, the torpedoing of the law of the sea negotiations, the emasculation of UNESCO, American withdrawal from the political jurisdiction of the world court, the Reagan administration's rejection of a comprehensive test ban approach, even though for the first time in the history of the Soviet State they'd been willing to accept on-site inspection. And even though there have been some efforts to object to the Madison Avenue effort to sell the fictitious nuclear umbrella, it's impressive to me how much national Democrats in the legislative environment have accepted SDI. And also how much there has been virtually no commenting on what might be described as the privatization of the war in Central America. Something that runs very profoundly against the constitution parentage of our country. Under the constitution, war is defined as a public, not private function. As early as 1784, we passed something called the Neutrality Act, which prohibits private citizens from taking on foreign policy license in the war making area. And it's my contention that neither a courageous Congress nor a vigilant American press is basically responsible for the cascade of policy reassessment in recent months. This year's Pulitzer Prize for journalism has to go to an obscure Lebanese publication, which no American I know ever read, and without its revelation of the arms for hostage issue, American foreign policy makers would still be standing tall, albeit in quicksand. Frankly, the surprising news to me is not that there's illegality occurring in our foreign policy. Anyone who's followed the rather torturous history of the Bolland Amendment knows that's the case, but that the world has chosen this particular moment in time to suddenly register concern. When all said and done and perspective is applied, the great problem of our time is that the administration has been hypocritical on one of its most vigorous railing cries, which is strict construction of the constitution. And the term law and order has been preempted by a new breed of conservatives in domestic politics. When it should be the rallying cry for progressives in foreign affairs. And the picture that's emerging in this Irangate episode is one of a privatized foreign policy, one in which Asian potent tuts, Arab arm dealers, Canadian investors, and soldiers of fortunate many nationalities are responsible for implementing key aspects of United States support policy. From an outsider's perspective, it did appear that there's been a breakdown in the chain of command. I had the privilege, several weeks ago of having lunch with one of the greatest voices of the past. A man I'd never met before by the name of Andrew Goodpaster. General Goodpaster was Eisenhower size now Ike's chief of staff. And I asked him what he thought of all of this emerging scandal. And he really was very profound. He's approaching 80 stands very upright. He looked at me and he said, \"Young man, I just wanna tell you, I took an oath to the constitution, not to zealotry Dwight Eisenhower would never stood for this.\" And it strikes me that the evidence that is materializing indicates the need for a reassessment of the decision-making process, as well as the house cleaning of foreign policy advisors. But I would stress that we have to be careful and cautious as Americans, particularly as we look at the constitution process to realize that we have a vested interest in not sweeping under the table, the one elected representative or a resident of the white house. And as we've look at these events, I think we have to take a very great deal of cure control that déjà vu scenario that's developing that invokes images of Watergate doesn't get out of hand. My own sense is that the analogy that's better at this time is the one that relates to perhaps the Bay of Pigs Invasion under President Kennedy, the widening of the world to include Cambodia under President Nixon, and these were foreign policy miscues, but they didn't jeopardize the presidency itself. And nor should this one, this particular presidency. The quicker there's full disclosure, the quicker the antidote of truth telling emerges the quicker we can put pines. And then from a personal level in one of the events of the last week really emphasizes the personal dimension of all of this. That is the image of a kind of a lightweight former national security advisor, Bud McFarlane taking valium in a possible effort to terminate his own life is that as we look at the events and people, we also have to assess character. And my own feeling is that one of the great distinguishing features of Irangate as contrasted with Watergate, is it at this particular time, unlike 15 years ago, we have a President who made the executed a controversial policy, but has maintained a rather unimpeachable character. And based on that, I think we should be very cautious about not going too far in all of the dens that surrounds us. In a broader perspective, it's possible that centuries from now, historians may write about what have been the great debates in our history. And I would say that one way of looking at it is that there've been three principle debates. The first surrounding the founding of the country, the establishment of a constitutional form of government around the principle of the precept of the rights of man. The first country that ever did that, in the kind of way that we did. The second debate was the one about a century later symbolized by the civil war. The suffragette movement was all about definitions, where the rights would apply to people, they weren't simply male and weren't simply pale. The third debate is the one we're really entering into now. And that's whether there's a right of civilization itself and whether there's a right to peace. My sense is the outcome of this last debate is unlikely to be happy unless we recognize that the law to be effective, it must constrain the behavior of governments as well as individuals, and that's what the issue at the moment is all about. With regard to Central America, it's very possible that liberals have aired rather largely by believing that the Sandinistas wouldn't opt in the direction of police state controls. On the other hand, our country has an obligation to stand by the constitution and illegal foreign policy and process with the recognition that in the long-run procedures matter more than policy outcomes. Great that religious philosophy of this century, Reynold Neber once argued that more important in America was the, how not the what of decision-making. That how we arrive at decisions is more important than what they are because as we all look at law, we're gonna find some we don't like, but basically speaking, we're gonna wanna follow the law itself, if we have respect for the manner in which it is made. And that is the reason that we are a constitutional form of government, in which people do as is, and a good pastor's note, that take oaths to the constitution and to upholding law act as zealotry. Let me just conclude by saying that of immediate concern to peoples and governments around the world is the understanding that from history embattled leaders sometimes seek outlets and failed policies in belligerency and sometimes war. This particular administration has been given the greatest opportunity for arms control of our lifetime, in fact, of any lifetime. It's not primarily because it's the media sometimes surmises that we have a conservative President with more flexibility, and that as Nixon went to China, Reagan go to Leningrad, but it relates more to the sense of timing, the fact that the Soviets have clearly come to the conclusion that to be relevant in the 21st century, they're gonna have to get their economic house together in the 20th, and that for the first time in the history of the Soviet State, they're willing to accept intrusive verification. Therefore, the question of the moment, and particularly as we look at aircraft carriers that are now off the shores of Lebanon, is whether the administration can avoid the temptation to find an island somewhere to invade or quantum top to bomb, and work stand for peace rather than wars and antidote for scandal. On this score basically, and only this score, I am somewhat optimistic and I think there could well be silver lining in these rather dark confrontational clouds and the arms control and kinda dora may in the end unwittingly, be the beneficiaries by the policy advanced by those who brought us, what might be described as a policy we like. Let me just conclude with that. We can throw it open to any questions you might have. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Why you seem to assume that President Reagan new advisors is gonna naturally bring change. Why that assumption?\r\n\r\n- Well that's not totally my assumption, although I think it may be the case. I think first of all, in public life there has to be accountability. One form of accountability is elections. The House every two years, Senator every six, Presidents every four. On the other hand, when things go astray of a remarkable dimension, there should be public accountability. And my personal feeling is impeachment is out of the question and therefore, what kind of accountability can there be to get people back on track and the reassertion of confidence in government? I think they're gonna have to change people. And those people surrounding the President seem to dug their fingers into hanging on to power or recognize for the good of the country, they have a shift. I do also think that to some extent, based on the shifting of people and then public accountability, you'll get some change in policy. For example, we sometimes forget that individuals make decisions and I have far more confidence in the decision-making capacity, for example, a Frank Carlucci at the NSC than I did for Bud McFarlane. And the same, I think that would be true in some other elements of the government. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Why do you think there is such a reluctance to get back to this whole thing?\r\n\r\n- Well, there are two aspects to reluctance issue. One is simply conjectural. Some people feel that that some of the facts might be embarrassing for serious public figures. The second is... Might be accidental and it's difficult to control who knows what. The third is a question of law that relates directly to the constitution of a very interesting dimension. And that is I have been very concerned in the Central American dilemma. That when you privatize war, you suddenly point people into foreign policy that you can't hold account. For example, if our country wants to move in the direction of the kinda door settlement, can we control the people in Central America that are currently involved in war making, and do they have sources of funds beyond the public treasury that we don't control? But one thing I've never conjectured about in advance and that has been presented this country in a constitutional framework in a way that I'd never thought of. And that is once there's the illegality of public officials and the invoking of the fifth amendment. That is the right not to be held accountable when self-incrimination has stalled. One thing that implies is that it's hard to get at the truth. If those people are the only ones that have a great feeling for some of the facts and that the Commander in Chief of the United States of America, our President cannot order someone to self-incriminate themselves, it is a catch 22 for the executive. Because that order itself is not only non-enforceable, but in legal terminology, both in the military and civilian codes and to my surprise, stronger in the military, then the civilian, that order itself is in effect unlawful or illegal. And so one of the striking aspects of this dilemma is that the one key figure and the second most important figure have both taken the fifth amendment, which implies that fact finding is more difficult than it would otherwise be. My own view when all of this is, and if one thinks that it's important for this country to put this issue behind us in a time like this is because of the repressive of times, particularly arms control that Congress is obligated to give a little bit of a benefit of the doubt to the executive and do something which under other circumstances, I would be very doubtful and that is to grant limited immunity to these people so that we can get everything out and get the darn issue behind us. But Congress to date is not indicated the desire to do that. And we have the special in fact prosecutor appointed by the Justice Department, which is arguing not to do that. And so, as long as that isn't done, I think we're... This little episode is kinda going further. And then I don't think if one reads public opinion poorly and listens to people that there's any doubt that the American people think that all the facts aren't on the table, then there's very little doubt that the American people think... Don't suspect a lot of wrongdoing has occurred. But I think if the administration could just produce a massive white paper, listing and every negative thing that's occurred, laws that have been violated, it would be overruled rather rapidly. I mean, what the public wants is a cleansing, but not necessarily a hein. And there's no great desire of anyone I know to string up a United States Marine Colonel, what there is, is a desire to get all the facts on the table. And so my sense is let's give Colonel North and Admiral Poindexter a limited immunity by recognizing that it will be slightly more difficult if not impossible for a prosecutor somewhere to give them sentences for which they might be found guilty or of crimes for which they might be found guilty. And that is a wise way to go. Yes.\r\n\r\n- You seem to be gladly optimistic, hopeful perhaps about an arms treaty eventually arriving during this administration. But haven't the last administration's argued that a connection with SALT too, with the ABM treaty with SDI, put a lot of dark role in that hope?\r\n\r\n- They've put a little damn bright, I'm kind of irrepressible about my optimism. All I can say is you can discount my optimism based in the fact that I predicted two years ago, a treaty was around the corner. And based on the fact that that some very serious people in Washington are very doubtful, the agreement is with us. But I am not only optimistic, I personally think it's gonna be here this spring. And I think it is almost upon us. Yeah, and the reason for my optimism granting it is one that the Soviets are talking the same numbers we're now talking. Secondly, they've been willing to accept our intrusive verification. And thirdly, that even though there's a battle in Washington, it hasn't been won by the other side on what is the one thing Washington can do to destabilize this arrangement. And that is early deployment of SDI probably ends the prospect of arms control. That has been advanced by Mr. Pearl with the defense department. It's being repeated by Mr. Weinberger with a little less taste, I think. But it is not carried the day. And the announcement of secretary Shultz this last week that the deployment decisions are a year or two away, I think is very significant because that implies that there's grounds for compromise. In addition, the Russians have accepted the principle of SDI research. And so it appears that their only quid pro quo is a ten-year extension of the ABM tree, a treaty that has been stretch granted by users like Cresta Yughes but in general has served our country well in the last 10 years, I think we'll be in the next 10. And my sense is we are make a dramatic mistake not to extend ABM and that if we do, we probably can achieve response plumes. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yesterday, I might asked something about Nicaragua. That was yesterday, secretary Shultz, tried to push the motion forward, while on the other hand, Admiral William Proud, said the opposite saying that the conference didn't get certain amount of victories and you shouldn't get more support. Do you think these two conflicts have been going on for a while, will send the Congress into confusion, than just stay together?\r\n\r\n- There's honest disagreement on these issues on the contrast. I think of interest in something that, in an institutional sense, it isn't quite a constitutional issue, but in an institutional sense, we historically think of the state departments being the negotiating wing of government. We think of defense as being a little more aggressive. Ironically, with regard to Central America, it was the Secretary of State then Al Haig that brought us the massive military involvement against what appears to be the advice of Joint Chiefs of Staff and with great reluctance from Cap Weinberger. In Lebanon, it was Secretary of State George Shultz that brought us a policy, again against the advice of Cap Weinberger and adamant advice against the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Oddly, in a legal sense, defense looks better than some other institutions in Washington. State looks better than the NSC, the NSC and the CIA look less good. And one of the areas that I have argued about in fact, I once shared an office with Frank Carlucci and I frankly told him the first thing you had to do is hire a good lawyer because one of the problems is that Department of State, CIA, and defense have excellent legal offices, at least historically, at least one, maybe not so good today, but the NSC appeared to have none. And I think that's one of the reasons that our policy got confused. Yes sir.\r\n\r\n- I'm concerned about\r\n\r\n- You raise two very profound questions. One relates to the double standard in law. You bet there has been a double standard one over the arms export laws where the NSC violated the same laws that the justice department is prosecuting people for doing. It's one of the reasons in the several federal court cases. The defendants tried to subpoenaed top level people in the United States government from the NSC officials to the vice-President. Making the point that others were doing things for which they were being prosecuted for. And in all likelihood, those particular cases, may have to be dropped or may be held different than the government might've wanted, which I think is unfortunate. I personally think that the private citizens should be held accountable as well as the public. In terms of what an impeachable offense is. That is philosophically difficult assessment to make. Part of it has to relate to an emerging consensus in the body politic, after all our government is based on consent of the governed. And I think to throw a President out of office, you have to have in effect consent of the governed just as you do when you create a government. And I sense it'll be almost no consent of the governed to an impeachment process. And so even though theoretically, on your model, you might assert that a law was violated in a more profound way under one circumstance than another, partly because of the lack of personal aggrandizement implications of foreign policy issues as contrasted with a bugging of Watergate that was obviously aimed at re-election effort and partly for other reasons to character, I don't think you're gonna see anything of that nature in this episode. By the way, I hope you all coming this evening to hear John Faulk speak a man of... But I think would be fair to say liberal credentials, but whether one's a conservative or liberal or heroic, of course he is. Yes\r\n\r\n- You were talking about the need for return to congressional role in foreign affairs. I was just wondering maybe what possible problems that will be in there because of the large flow that Congressmen and both Senate and the House have to do 'cause of the maximum amount of bills that they are really learned to handle.\r\n\r\n- Well, the question relates to the, the role of Congress in foreign affairs. Well, look the constitution from the beginning laid out certain roles in foreign affairs. I mean, part of it, devise and consent and appointments and treaty ratification. The most important role was probably the purse string role. And that's a traditional one that my sense has kinda versus abdicated its responsibility on. And that is the most important role of all. There are other roles that can be played. Some of them, I mean... Congress, isn't very good at micromanagement and there are lots of instincts to get involved in the foreign affairs area. And I must confess some guilt to some of these based on feelings about executives that have gone astray. But I think just to conscientious purse string management is the most important role. For example, you have SDI, if an American citizen has doubts that that is the way to go, why shouldn't Congress vote no? You've got a policy in central America, why shouldn't Congress vote no? you've got a policy towards arms control, Congress cannot negotiate. But it certainly can put constraints on the executive on what it might wanna do. But that is where some of the difficulties are defined. And it's my own view that Congress has played with ideas, but not in very serious about where its responsibilities are really are.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- I was a little surprised at what you had to say. In action to read this question about... If I understood it correctly, you were saying that even though this President might have violated laws and more serious issues that Nixon, nevertheless, the people wouldn't put up with is... or will not consent to his impeachment, where does the rule of law come in? This is more of the great athlete or big salesman there having convincing that people don't throw me out 'cause I'm still a nice guy and likely you know violated your laws. What does this have to do with what you were saying about the rule of law in this country?\r\n\r\n- Well, you have a point, but I would only stress that there are remedies other than the impeachment. And those remedies ought to be pursued as well.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but you said get rid of this\r\n\r\n- Well, I think I said more than that. I said no, no, no don't fund his purposes as well as get rid of some of his advisors. But I recognize precisely what you're saying. It is a philosophical dilemma of rather serious proportions. And the only way I can explain it, is only is on consent of the governed because it is impressive that even though public opinion polls indicate that the American people consider Irangate as serious as Watergate, there is no one in the public virtually suggesting that impeachment is the way out of the dilemma. And so you have massive ironies there but just isn't point of fact,\r\n\r\n- Well, no one talked about it either until it was proposed to the American public, in the case you missed. If you didn't hear a ground slogan saying \"Impeach, impeach, impeach grand jural is listening from above.\" The process will start and in the House of Representatives. So how can you say that that wouldn't happen here if it has started?\r\n\r\n- Well, that is a slight possibility, but I personally don't think it's likely to occur. Let me just turn it around. Could I do a poll? If all of you were asked to vote today on whether you'd vote to impeach Ronald Reagan, how many vote to say yes. Wow. How many vote to say no? Hmm. Well, that's shows us some impressive descend. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Well, my own sense is that America strengthened itself with the Nixon impeachment. I've doubts that it would strengthen itself with a Reagan impeachment. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Question, maybe you probably said something about it, what do you think would be the key point I mean like the major sprue to bend this whole around\r\n\r\n- I think it is surprisingly simple. And so surprisingly simple. That it's frustrating that it hasn't occurred. And as I mentioned a little earlier, all they have to do is give a comprehensive description of what has happened, citing what has gone wrong and pointing out all the information that they have. And secondly, replacing and shifting around some people in government. I think the issue would be virtually over. 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issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46870/file/120273#t=81.95,85.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46870/file/120273/transcript/31424/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I don't think we're gonna get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46870/file/120273#t=85.25,86.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46870/file/120273/transcript/31424/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more than a hundred signatures for 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In addition it cannot be exaggerated that Irangate for all it symbolizes, is a small potatoes issue compared with arms control. And that is really the overwhelming issue of our times. And anything that would sidetrack that could be very destabilizing. And I am still optimistic that if we are close to arms control, it's probably better for Reagan to execute it than anyone else.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- With respect to arms control, what's the of Congress on the administration's .\r\n\r\n- Well, there's no consensus on that. I think the majority of the Congress really doesn't care one way or the other. And that's discreditable. I personally think it is absolutely a massive concern to the country. And have been frankly circulating letters to try to get as many members of Congress as we can to object to the president. Show sign of unity of that issue. But I don't think we're gonna get more than a hundred signatures for that.\r\n\r\n- Senator, do you have time for one more question?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- You said that the president, or the executive branch anyway, has gone outside of the constitution. And that you don't feel like impeachment is a reasonable option given the political realities of the situation. Yet, the only other remedy that you've mentioned is control the purse strings by Congress. And one of the things that the executive branch has done to go outside the constitution is to ignore the congressional ban on money in Latin America. What would you like to see done to give the Congress a better check on the president, without having to throw him out of office?\r\n\r\n- Well, I must tell you you're, you're absolutely right in the dilemma that you just described. And the problem is that there aren't always perfect proportional remedies for all circumstances. Let me give an analogy that that is so far removed and a little unfair. But it's a little bit like a student at Iowa State University that isn't perfectly disciplined. You'd hate to have the remedy of kicking him out if that's really the only remedy you have. Yet because it can be an awesomely, terrible thing for the kid's life, but he still doesn't shape up. And I don't mean to say that there's an analogy here at all in terms of the degree of difficulty. But what I am saying is that there aren't always proportional remedies for every problem that individuals or societies or States have. And this is one of those issues that a remedy is developing of a little different ilk, having nothing to do with precisely the law, precisely purse string or whatever. And that is we still live in a democracy. And we still are concerned about perceptions of ourselves, not only the given point in time, but presidencies for example, of historical perspectives. And I don't think a president wants to be considered to be pursuing illegal policies. And therefore when they find them out, they'll probably stop. And that the public criticism, the public fact that the Republican party, the party of the president symbolizes, has lost support, you know, becomes a factor that plays into all of this. And that's one of the fine aspects of living in a democracy. And likewise, my own sense is the only way the president can be vindicated by very irrational aspects of both the foreign and domestic policy is to come forth with a responsible arms control agreement. And that's in the interest of us all. And if that's the vindication that's needed, you know, maybe that, that is something that we can all thank. 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