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Is this on? Hello. Is it on? how do you turn it on? It's not on.\r\n\r\n- It's on.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Well I will tap the microphone. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everybody that this evening at eight o'clock Lawrence Jones will be lecturing in the sunroom on 'The Ezekiel Experience.' And tomorrow at noon in the same place as we are today, we will have Stephanie Coons and she will be speaking on, 'Families And The American Dream.' Our speakers today will be Frances Moore Lappe and Paul DuBois. And together they are the co-founders of the Institute For The Arts Of Democracy. And Miss Lappe is the author of several books including, 'Diet For Small Planet' and 'Rediscovering America's Values' which are both available for sale at the table next to the door. She's also co-founded, The Institute For Food And Development Policy. Mr. DuBois has been vice president at Cambridge College and at The College Of The Atlantic. He also has authored books such as, 'The Hospice Way Of Death,' and 'Modern Practices And Human Service Agencies.' Together, they have authored a new book, 'Doing Democracy,' which will be out later this year. We hope you will join us for the rest of this week's activity. And we would like to remind you that Tuesday's presentation does begin at 7PM and not 8PM as stated in our brochure. And please give a warm welcome to Frances Moore Lappe and Paul DuBois.\r\n\r\n- Okay, do you want to move this forward? Should we do this?\r\n\r\n- If you will come to us, we'll come to you.\r\n\r\n- Alright. How's that? Okay. Great. Just to start, we know that a number of you have to leave at one o'clock, that's fine. Our feelings are not going to be crushed or whatever. If you leave, however at 12:59 that's a very different story. How many of you were at last night's presentation? Ah ah!\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- People basically on the fringes. Okay, okay. We really only have considerably less than an hour, that's not very much time to talk with you. And we'd like to get a sense of how you'd like to spend this time together. We really have several options. One is that we could spend perhaps as long as say, 30 minutes telling you perhaps in slightly different words, but pretty much what we had to say last night. Let's just call that option one, for a minute. Okay, and we can kind of recapitulate what we did last night. And then we can have a very short general discussion. Another is that, we could spend about 10 minutes doing that. Just trying to really synopsize and then we can have open it up to general discussion for everybody. And the third option that we thought of, is that we could divide into small groups after a very short synopsis. And we could begin to discuss some of the issues particularly around power in our own lives, that we touched upon last night. In other words, we could in 10 minutes, tell you what we had to say and whatever it is, an hour last night. And then we could have some small group discussions, and then maybe we could talk a little bit more generally at the end of that. Okay? So the first option is that we just talk to you for a half hour or so and then have a general discussion. How many would rather have us do that? Anybody? Okay. Alright, that's a whole bunch. Okay. The mainline people, not the fringes. Alright. And then, how many would rather have say talk for 10 minutes, maybe 15 at the most and then have a general discussion among everybody? Okay, that's close to half in half, we're getting . How many would like to have some small group discussions and that sort of thing? Okay, alright.\r\n\r\n- That's even fewer.\r\n\r\n- Okay that's even fewer. What do you wanna do?\r\n\r\n- I'd like to see the hands again for options.\r\n\r\n- What do you wanna do?\r\n\r\n- I think they are more for option one.\r\n\r\n- You think that more for option one? You do? Gosh, I hate to disappoint, you think they are? Yeah, some of you are nodding. I hate to disappoint the fringe element. But it looks like there are a lot more people who just, Joe, I'm sorry. Looks like there are a lot more people who just want us to talk a little bit. So why don't we do that and then we'll have a general discussion. Okay? I guess. Alright. Okay. We'll do that. Let's start with just a very short personal statement from each of us, about why we came to this work. So just so something about us and then we can get on to the heart of the of the talk last night.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Well, as Jennifer introduced me, you heard that my first sort of public statement as a person in my mid 20s, was a book called, 'Diet For Small Planet.' It started out actually as a one page handout, and I thought I should know a little bit more about it. And it became, 'Diet For Small Planet.' I don't exactly know how that happened. But once it was out there, I sort of became the, 'Julia Child Of The Soybean Circuit,' during the 1970s. And it was very different than what I wanted to do when I wrote that one page handout, because what I really wanted to do was to explain to people that hunger is needless. It is made by human beings. No we can't blame nature. And I thought if I could just expose people to the reality of obviously needless hunger and help to show how concentrated forms of decision making, where they we're talking about economic or political from the village level, to the level of international trade, how fewer and fewer people making the decisions was actually cutting people out of the capacity to feed themselves and that was really what hunger was all about. So, I tried harder and harder into the 80s, as I wrote other books. The Institute I helped to found 'Food First', I finally sort of boiled my message down to one simple theme. And that is, that hunger is not caused by a scarcity of food or scarcity of land. It's actually caused by scarcity of democracy. But as the 80s progressed, and I got more and more emphatic with that message, I got more and more uncomfortable in standing in front of audiences, because people would say, \"Okay, if hunger is caused by a scarcity of democracy, where is that democracy you talk about that's going to end hunger? What do you really mean by democracy that's able to end hunger? I don't see it, and how is it possible?\" And so out of that discomfort, I kept pushing myself harder and harder to try to figure out, well, how do we talk about the next stage in the evolution of democracy without presenting some model, some idealized model that it's gonna disempower people even more, because they know we can't achieve that ideal. And out of that discomfort, tremendous discomfort, gradually came the themes that we're going to be talking about today. What we're talking about when we say, living democracy. And what I really came to was that, democracy has to be seen not as an endpoint that we arrive at. Not as a model that we ultimately achieve, but a process that we engage in every day of our lives. And that we have a historic moment now, I believe. And for many many reasons, I think that's true. To begin to redefine democracy in the ways that we're gonna be talking about today. So that, in fact, it will be vital enough to end hunger and address the other profound social and environmental problems that face us. So that's something of how I got here in a couple of minutes rendition. And Paul has his very different version.\r\n\r\n- Alright. Well, when I was the age of most of the people here, it was the 1960s and I guess the 1970s. And I was very very much involved in the civil rights movement. And very, very active. I went to jail a total of 42 times on civil rights marches. That might suggest a level of failure rather than a level of success. But in any case, i was really seething with anger about the oppression of my people about problems of racism and poverty. And so I knew then that I really wanted to spend the rest of my life doing something about this. And it was my people, black people who was most especially important to me. And I became very unhappy with the civil rights era. We could talk about that if you wanted to, at some point. Because the gains seemed to me to be well defined at first and very limited and then the major backlash that occurred seemed to me to present a barrier, that meant that we were going to go nowhere in this kind of tactic. I then became the executive director of a large black community organization, the largest in New York State. And we ran programs in which people had a good deal of decision making power and I tried to learn some lessons from that. That people who this society normally thinks of as not capable of making very good decisions, were in fact quite capable. Quite capable with enough knowledge and enough skill to run programs that did them a great deal of good. I then tried college teaching for a while partially to regroup and to kind of recover from burnout. And to try a very different approach of basically teaching the young. And I learned from that experience, from a variety of other experiences with Planned Parenthood, and some professional associations and the human potential movement and so on a number of lessons which seemed to me to come together. And the way they came together was really fundamentally this, that the problems that I have been most concerned about for my life, that many of you are concerned about, in many, many ways, seem to me to not be getting a great deal better. That the problems of racism, environmental degradation, poverty, homelessness, and so on. We all know that. And we know that although there have been, for example, among black people, a very large proportion of black people from the games of the 1960s, who have entered the middle class. They've also fled to the suburbs, and that the people who have left behind is Kathleen Cleaver, the wife of Eldridge Cleaver, one of the leaders of the Black Panthers back in the 70s said very recently, \"Things have never been worse in her lifetime.\" Well, that's true for all of us, that for those who have left behind, in fact, things have never really been worse than than they are today. So what is it? What is it that that explains, what seems to be widespread failure? And as in Frances' terms, \"It seems to me that, what one has to do is to go deeper. And when you begin to go deeper, you begin to understand that there's something wrong with the way in fact, we function as a society.\" Or, to put it another way, there's something wrong with the way we practice democracy. That the promise of democracy has never come close to being realized here. And that's where we begin this talk. And that's where we begin this life's work. That underneath of that, we don't care what you do with the problems that you're most concerned about, homelessness, environment, anything else. What we would argue is that, until, in fact, millions more people learn to be engaged in democratic decision making, and learn to lend their creativity to problem solving, and learn to have their values expressed in public policy, that, in fact, these problems are not really going to get substantially better, no matter how many millions of people continue to work on them.\r\n\r\n- I think in closing there, Paul, you really laid out the challenge. That has arisen through each of our life experience. And so I all I can do is really try to put it out there in the simplest terms, and that is that we are saying, that no matter what special interest you have, whether it be the environment, whether it be issues of gender, whether it be poverty, whether it be the AIDS crisis, whatever your concern that none of these can be addressed successfully, unless we are going deeper to the underlying question of how. How do we reinvent a democratic process, whether it be in our classroom, in our universities, in our communities, Those of us who have to live with the decisions have a role in making the decisions. And this requires really something quite radical, profound rethinking of democracy itself, and redefining what we mean by public life. It's not just what celebrities have, it's not just what public officials have. It's what every one of us here has every day. We walk outside of our homes, our intimate relationships, and we sit in a classroom or we stand before a classroom, we go into the workplace, we relate to the media or human services in each of those roles, we are shaping the communities in which we participate. We are making choices even by choosing not to react, even by choosing to be passive, we are creating the public life in which we all are shaped. So that really then begins to suggest a number of themes that we have to rethink. And we begin with rethinking what is self interest, because that's a very important element of democracy that is not just simply a set of government structures, but becomes a way of life.\r\n\r\n- When we ask people as we did last night, what you think of when you think of self interest, what comes to mind? The first word that we usually get is selfishness. We also get the sense from many many people, that it's something to be overcome. That we all ought to learn to be of service that we ought to somehow and we hear this on Sunday mornings from pulpits all across the country, that we ought to somehow learn to set aside our self interest and act on behalf of the common good. And yet what the successful organizations and people across this country whom we have been studying have been teaching us about self interest is that it really doesn't have to be a dirty word. And that if you try to set it aside, that, in fact, you're not going to wind up being very successful. If you'll turn to handout number three, at the bottom of that page, you'll see a chart that says, 'Rethinking Self Interest.' Okay and you'll see three orientations to self interest. One is service. The second is selfishness. And the third is relational self interest. And what we've been learning from organizations like the Industrial Areas Foundation in quite a number of others, which have effectively managed to change the quality of life in a variety of poor communities across this country, and middle class communities also, is that relational self interest says to you, there's really nothing wrong with acknowledging that, in fact, you have some important interests that have to be taken into account when you become active in your public life. And your public life, as Frances was pointing out, really includes everything. How you behave in school, what happens in your workplace, what happens with the Human Service Agency, or the hospital or the clinic that you visit, and so on. Right down the line, what happens in your neighborhood, where you live, what kind of housing you have, and all the rest of it and how you deal with banking, and so many other important institutions, everything outside of your immediate small family. You have interest in all of this. And it is perfectly appropriate for you to learn to express those interests and to learn to tie those interest to connect those interests to the interest of other people. And it is this relational self interest, it is this connected interest, mine with yours, that enables us once through enough discussion, through enough understanding your of my interest mine of your interest to act effectively and act in unison. And it's a very very different message, this business of self interest than what we usually hear, which as I said, is usually, it's got to be doggy dog and get what I want, or we ought to play Mother Teresa. Now, what do we do in order to learn how to relate our interest back and forth and to develop a sense of the larger and relational interest? Well, we've got a lot of skills that we've got to learn. And skills relate not only to self interest, but also to power and quite a variety of other things that we've got to learn in order to be effective citizens in the society. If you'll turn that page over to handout number four. No, I'm sorry, excuse me. If you'll turn it to handout number five, where we talked about the arts of democratic life. You'll see that we've listed there nine of the kinds of skills that we really don't practice very much. And it's interesting, isn't it, that you can get all the way through even a college education at a good university. And in fact, I think if you were to grade yourself on how good a listener you are, how good you are at dealing with conflict, dealing with anger, negotiating interest, mediation, envisioning a future, for your society, for your neighborhood, for your organization, for yourself, at engaging in dialogue, or coming together with others at public judgment, or evaluating and reflecting what really happens within your own activity, that in fact, you'd have to admit, as most Americans do, that we have almost no experience at any of that. Isn't that true? When you really have to give us all pretty low grades at all of these kinds of skills. And yet, this is precisely what is necessary in order to have an effective democracy. A democracy that works to solve our problems. And I think it's an eye opener to realize that we can be well educated people, with great futures for the most part, effective in this society, we think, and yet not be able to function effectively in public life to solve the problems that are on the hearts and minds of so many of us. Why don't we stop talking about the arts and move to power for just a few minutes?\r\n\r\n- Well, both of these themes that Paul has outlined of self interest and the missing arts. The arts that really don't get visibility in the society, don't get the emphasis that we're saying they would if we took democratic practice or democratic problem solving. Seriously, all those really are ways of expressing power. So to understand what we mean by a democracy vital enough to actually solve our public problems, we have to rethink power. And just like Paul said, with self interest we get bombarded with messages that actually paralyze us. Messages like, squelch your self interest vis-a-vis power. We also get very negative messages. Last night, we asked the audience, what is the first thing you think of when you hear the word power? We got words like manipulation, coercion, money, men. Paul heard a white men, a lot of negative, we got one positive at the very end, love. But generally speaking, we think of power as dirty, because it's corrupting it has to be by necessity manipulative. And I think that we think of power as kind of a commodity and entity that either you got it or you don't. And if Paul has it, I don't and vice versa. It's either or. And we think that both of these notions that power is dirty, it's corrupted and that it's an either or, both of these are very disempowering, and in fact, inaccurate. Because if we look more deeply into our own lives, and without the sort of messages coloring our experience what art teaches. And again I wanna underline everything that we're saying today is a condensation of the lessons that we are being taught by quote and quote ordinary people all around the country. Our research today is not going into the UN documents, like I used to write books about world hunger. It is sitting in people's living rooms, in their halls, in their churches, in their synagogues, listening to what is working for them. How are they discovering power? And that's what we're talking about this morning. What we are learning from them, not what we have just invented out of our own heads. So back to power. So what people are discovering is that what works is thinking about power, always as a relationship. We all indeed are these social beings embedded in relationships, and power is always operating in relationships. And so that what I do, even if it's just to sit passively in a classroom, it affects what goes on in front of that classroom. Because there is a relationship there. There is a response to sitting passively in a classroom. A professor, then in front of that classroom responds to that passivity. We could give you 1000s of examples. But the point is that our behavior because we are these social creatures affects each other. So that power is always in operating in a relationship. And once you realize that, and start to think of it that way, then you realize that you have to get out of the simple blaming mode. It's his fault, it's her fault, it's the boss's fault. It's professors fault, it's the administration's fault, it's the president's fault. And see that in some way, there is some opportunity for you to affect that relationship. There's some openings for power that maybe you didn't think that you had. And then what it happens with the citizens that we've been talking with, is they start to discover sources of power that never had occurred to them before. They started discovering, say, for example, the kind of power that knowledge gives them. That they can dig out the information they want to know. Paul gave an example last night of low income citizens who dug out the information about financing for housing, particularly in this in the inner city, and how banks were taking money out of the inner city and what could be done. They ended up learning more as one professor told us, than most finance professors know about such things, and ended up pushing through national legislation that brought $8 billion in bank investment back into the inner city. The power of knowledge is discovered, the power of humor, throwing people off guard by being able to turn a situation into a humorous one, and we gave examples last night. On handout number three on the top of the page, we've covered my first point here about power. The contrast between power as as something that is dirty, and always manipulated to something that is in fact, mutually expanding and that exists in a relationship. And that therefore can be freeing when it is collaborative. And on the backside of that same page, we've included just a few of the examples of what happens when people break out of the old notion of power and walk into the notion of power as relationship in which they have some, perhaps now, invisible sources to cultivate and that once they focus on those then that sense of powerlessness, which is one of the easiest ways to feel cynical, as a simple cop out as a simple, 'There's nothing I can do because I have no power so therefore you can't blame me for not doing anything.' Well, once you rethink power in this way, there are no more easy outs. And we begin to see that no matter how much less power we may have in any given situation, we are never totally power less. So that's some of the general orientation about some of the themes that we're learning about those who are beginning to turn our democracy from a formal static institution or process to a living process that we can all be engaged in.\r\n\r\n- So I like that last phrase, we can all be engaged in. Let's think about questions that you have, and how we can all get engaged here in a discussion of this really rather strange kind of notion, isn't it? I've been a professor of public policy and political science and public administration. And it's interesting that in all of those courses, and all the courses that I had to take in order to get my doctorate, and all this sort of thing, that you hardly ever hear anything about democracy. This is a very very new subject for most people. So we'd love to get your questions. But we'd also like to kind of get you engaged, if we can. In a conversation about what you think about some of these notions. Let me just tell you that the kinds of lessons that we've been drawing as we tried to explain last night, are from quite a wide variety of institutions and success stories, that we've been very privileged to go around the country and discover. People have been very, very successful, poor people, middle class people, wealthy people coming together, black people, white people, in quite a variety of settings, about the schools, within classrooms, and entire school districts, including the entire city of Chicago, learning to have parents and teachers and students come together to make many more decisions about the schools than is the usual case. And within classrooms, professors and teachers, high school teachers, elementary school teachers, learning to involve students in the educational process, and in making decisions about what it is they're going to learn and how they're going to go about learning it. So therefore, what they feel is a sense of ownership of the process they learn more, they stay in school longer, they do better. The same with regard to economics. And, Frances just mentioned the case of low income people really effectively changing the way large banks in this country do business vis-a-vis the inner city. We have examples in the media examples in human services, examples in local governments. Some of those are very very briefly summarized in the first handout that you got on that first page, just a few true stories. They'll give you just a sense. And in order to do the book that we've got coming out later this year we are really very very lucky we've been allowed to basically travel around the country, find these stories and ask these people, \"What are the lessons that you've learned over years of struggle to produce these kinds of successes?\" So, why don't we open it up? Great, I'll tell you what, why don't we just start we go around this way. Let's start with you and we'll go back there.\r\n\r\n- The first kind of question deals, I think maybe events what I'd like to see our names and addresses and manuals of how to do it.\r\n\r\n- Uh uh?\r\n\r\n- Now presumably this is in your book coming out?\r\n\r\n- Names and addresses of how to do it are in the book. We are assembling these resource guides. The interesting thing is it sort of how to do it.\r\n\r\n- That's part of our institute's mission, because there's so little throughout this entire democracy of a quarter of a billion people about how to do democracy. Oh, by the way, the title of the book is, 'Doing Democracy.' In any case. Why don't you explain just a little bit about the institute and the sorts of things we're trying to do?\r\n\r\n- Well, let me say, just to re-emphasize what Paul just said, that those of you who begin to feel any of the passion that we do about this very very important approach to problem solving to really think of it in this way. What it requires on all of our parts is, yes, looking to see what other people have done, but also realizing that we ourselves have to be the inventors. Because we are charting your waters. This is not something while there are many examples that we use in our book, our last chapters is, 'The How To' chapter and it includes stories from people across the country, and a resource guide of training programs but they're just a handful around the country. We have to all be inventing them within our own universities and our own organizations, we have to be creating programs. One of the things that the groups do, for example, that we have been most educated by ourselves is and you can do this in your own classrooms, in your own clubs, in your own churches and synagogues, is begin simply by being conscious after every major event or every meeting to really do an in depth evaluation. What worked here and what didn't in terms of the participatory arts that we're trying to further? How did we deal with conflict? Begin to do that sort of review. How can we ourselves just through reflection, do better in terms of integrating diverse views? Create an environment, which is open to conflict and dissent. So there's a beginning practice that we can all engage in, wherever we are, whatever level we are simply by being beginning to be reflective. But again, as Paul mentioned, we do have a resource guide that we can send you that mentions some of these training organizations. And the last chapter of our new book will be, \"The How To\" chapter. But we all have to be inventors. So I'm just saying can't look to any other sort of institute to do it. We all have to be part of this invention.\r\n\r\n- Garrett, it's you next or?\r\n\r\n- Seems to be one aspect of is that the only way you can give democracy, is if you do it. It's only by being activated if you don't take an active part, and in fact, the relationship is you give it to other people you can't have it be done for you.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- You actually have to feel, I think all of us we are taught that we are powerless. We are essentially taught that too of you . And the few people who actually get involved and have a vast amount of what to say .\r\n\r\n- Hm. Can we get a couple of students to respond to that? He's talking about you. Right?\r\n\r\n- Well, professors too.\r\n\r\n- And professors too obviously. What do you think? Yeah, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- I think a large part of the problem is the prevailing concept of democracy in our society, as presented to us by intellectual culture, the university, the mass media. We are really taught that there's a necessary connection between what they really mean when they say democracy is capitalism. When they're talking about a democracy is open up in Eastern Europe, there's a democracy in Honduras, in Venezuela, what they're really talking about is abuse. They confuse the two terms.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- But it really in effect demobilizes us and really distorts them through the world. I spent three weeks in Cuba over the summer, and I've never been in a more democratic society. Yet we are told that that is undemocratic antisocial. Now, why do you say it was a democratic society? And then I wanna ask you, are you functioning in a democracy? But go ahead, why do you say that where you were this summer was a democracy?\r\n\r\n- Because I witnessed things like, an entire community getting together and deciding what kind of factory they wanted in the community.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- Whether they wanted a factory that produced soda pop, or canned goods it was actually the community making the decision. And, people in the community mobilizing together, because of the economic problems they're deciding who can use electricity on this day. Very serious things. But the political activities and organizations so strong and people understanding their government, understanding what their government imports what they export. It was a real eye opener for me, especially for somebody who's been taught that that society is undemocratic because there's no elections.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Even though there's a lot of elections then they have like 90% turn out after elections. How do we offset the propaganda that we receive 24 hours a day, through the mass media to the corporate media?\r\n\r\n- I'd like to answer that. By going back to what Garrett said, because the only way I'm convinced after years of trying to do it another way, is the only way that people begin to work through the myth that simple capitalism is equals to democracy. Our simple free market is by doing. And I think of an example I use last night for the few of you who were there very briefly, in Connecticut an example of a broad base citizen organization that includes unions and churches and synagogues and other citizen groups. And what they have done is, challenged the corporations that wanna just flee and leave people with no benefits. They've challenged them successfully, in several cases successfully bought the companies. They have set up a state trust fund to help workers buy their firms. They have set up a community land trust to fight speculation on housing costs, that make some people homeless. And so it's by the doing of democracy that these people in this community, i talk particularly about a 63 year old woman who had never been involved really outside of her church before. And she's now very active in this organization. And it was through Teresa's experience of actually discovering by doing, that she could be an economic decision maker that she didn't have to simply be at the mercy of what the corporation's leaders decided or simply what the market would dictate. And that she could be a player in making sure that the market and the corporate interest in the community also were responding to her needs. And so it was through doing it, that she became I'm sure, less vulnerable to the simple propaganda that the market is the be all end all of freedom and democracy. So I think, again, it's back to the doing of it, the experiencing of it, that we learned the lessons.\r\n\r\n- We should be sort of come around, because somebody back here was next and then we'll come back up here. I guess. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I think I learned that we really are the representing the public.\r\n\r\n- Can you all hear?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Why don't you say that again and then explain it a little bit more.\r\n\r\n- Well actually, in that case we are representing the public, isn't it?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. And?\r\n\r\n- So this is a revolution.\r\n\r\n- What we're talking about is just a tad radical. Okay, why? Why is this so very very different?\r\n\r\n- Well it's your not having the institutions as if the same role as our institutions. And what the American people had before was.....\r\n\r\n- Go on.\r\n\r\n- No, I think you're onto something. Yeah, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- I think the point there is that representative denotes that somebody higher than us and that there's another level that has a better idea, what's good for us. And that was, in fact, the intention of having fathers is that the the whole of the population people to make decisions for themselves, especially lives in blacks. And that these white men would get together and do that for us. And it was benevolent but it was also denied from us. And still does often, if we let it gives them that power then they do .\r\n\r\n- Yeah. It's always interesting to me, in a very simple sense that we can give up so much power to people who screw it up so badly.\r\n\r\n- But it's in the very, one of the things that we've discovered in the very, screwing up that has happened. That in itself has empowered so many people. We've talked to people in the Chicago School System \"What makes you think you can do anything better? couldn't do anything worse than they've done.\" And so that's part of why we have a sense of hope now, because so many people are realizing that the quote and quote experts out there who were supposed to have done it, that the nature of today's problems, it just can't be solved. It can't be solved.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, Jimmy Carter once said, in an off guard moment, \"That the reason he ran for president is because he became governor and he visited the White House and he found out really, almost the same lesson, that the person who was president was certainly not any smarter than he was.\" And, so on all the way along the line, we talked to people who say, \"I have a sixth grade education, that's as far as I got. And yet, in fact, I'm finding out of new things, I can do at least as good a job at public affairs, when I learn the skills as the people who I've been selecting to do it. And the second thing I'm finding out is that it's fun, that it really changes my life for the better. And that, in fact, I grow, my spouse grows. And then in fact, I'm having a great time. And now I wouldn't change it for a thing.\" I remember talking to two people. We haven't used this in the speech recently. But I remember talking to two African Americans in Philadelphia who are heavily involved in the ACORN organization which is an organization that managed to redirect $8 billion worth of bank lending to the inner cities. And they used to be heavy TV watchers. And as they slowly grew in all of this, they wound up saying, \"We don't have time for TV anymore, we're having a lot more fun.\" And they actually compared what they're doing in terms of fun to watching TV and to the usual sort of American pass time. And they wound up saying, \"Hey, their lives are much much better these days, and so are the lives of their children.\" But let's go over here.\r\n\r\n- I want to say a little thing about...\r\n\r\n- Can you all hear?\r\n\r\n- Up yeah .\r\n\r\n- Like me here, I think...\r\n\r\n- Oh boy!\r\n\r\n- Well, I think things evolve. A society and people need to change. And this is not a long way from a living democracy. But it's interesting in the past few years how call in talk shows really seem to be a big deal. Rush Lumbaugh talk radio in the afternoon. Maybe all we can do right now is carpet one another. We're long ways from deciding like Cuba, what our communities are going to be. But people are starting to at least call it, it's a real distancing sort of thing. But also the institution's listen to these folks, they care for what's coming out of you.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- So there is a little glimmer of something going on.\r\n\r\n- We have had a wonderful time in Iowa. And there's only been one bad moment. And that lasted about four or five seconds. And it was when somebody told us last night that there's a huge number of people on campus, and we should listen to Rush Lumbough. Other than that, we thought that Iowans were fantastic! Is that actually true? Yeah, look at this everybody's nodding. Yeah yeah.\r\n\r\n- I think it's true . Well it's true there are millions and millions of people listening to this guy. But know what, you're right. You're really right, If you look over that list of arts of democracy, in that last handout, what you see there is something that takes this very bare beginning of people trying to express their views, a great deal further. After all, we not only have to spout our own opinions and our own prejudices, we also have to listen. And then we have to find out how in the world we can begin to merge what we've listened with what we feel and what we experienced, and how we can develop a common sense of direction. And then finally, we have to really bring that to a point that we call public judgment, and then we can all act upon. And that's a very different democratic process than simply shouting some prejudice at somebody. But you're right, at least shouting is a lot better than I guess it's better than keeping quiet. Let's go up here.\r\n\r\n- I think the more we raise problems in society is the climate that we're living in. Before we can get to democracy, its setting a climate where people can socialize in a healthy manner. And it seems as though....\r\n\r\n- You can all hear him, right? Okay.\r\n\r\n- There's such a sense of isolationism.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- Where people, first of all the distractions involved with work in itself or school and then after that little part of your day is over you go home.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- And you have things there, you have your bills, your TV, and whatnot. And we have to overcome this to find places where we can convene, and where it's all inclusive. It's not just special interest groups. But with the whole structure of the city, you getting in your car, isolating yourself going to your own little place, and not having those community little corner stores where you'll go to and run into people like the inner cities.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- Or maybe the places in Cuba would.\r\n\r\n- Hm.\r\n\r\n- Do you wanna react to that?\r\n\r\n- to hear the gist of what you were saying, our isolation and again, back to the lessons that we're learning by listening is that the successful organizations that we're looking at start right there. They start with reconnecting people. They don't start with an issue. They start with a campaign, they start with house meetings, where people are reconnect and listening to each other's concerns. In fact, in Memphis, probably it's been very long time, like decades since there have been blacks and whites sitting down together in homes on a regular basis. And this is how the very successful organization there is operated. But is it 456 house meetings involving 1000s of Memphians ended up just beginning by listening not beginning with an issue or campaign, just listening ended up creating an agenda for the city that involved very important school reform. That then, because the relationships had been established, there were enough volunteers to put together 110 teams of people black and white, to go in and interview staff and students and auxiliary staff and all the public schools in Memphis and then to develop out of that a very sophisticated plan for reform that the parents and others could get behind in other words. But my real point is going back to your observation that it started with relationship building because that's what's missing in our isolated lives. And in this case, it began primarily through organizations coming through the churches because certainly in some cities, the churches, synagogues are still the the most important social grouping where people have at least some sense of least recognizing each other when they walk through the doorway Sunday or Saturday. And they began there and then work from there. So I think your observation is right. And that's really why the successes have to start with reconnecting each other.\r\n\r\n- I wanna throw out a hypothesis. And it's really only a hypothesis. But connecting the comments of the last two people who spoke from the audience. If you look at these media shows and I do want to build up what Frances was just saying about relationship building. 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also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619#t=28.31,31.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619/transcript/27359/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We really just don't know how to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619#t=31.08,33.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619/transcript/27359/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, as someone back here 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know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619#t=101.209,104.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619/transcript/27359/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you should feel free to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619#t=104.07,105.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619/transcript/27359/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously, you do feel free to do 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that goes almost nowhere. But what we don't know how to do are all of those other things that we've been talking about. And we don't any longer have a society or a democracy that teaches that, and one of our principal points is that that is absolutely key to effective living, to an effective democracy, to effective public life, to probably, and here's the hypothesis, probably, to an effective private life also. We really just don't know how to do it. And so, as someone back here said, I think it was Gary, or someone said, look, the key then maybe is to simply start doing it. To simply start practicing, learning, evaluating as Francis was pointing out a little while ago. Just start doing it about any issue that interests you, about any subject that interests you.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, Joe?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'd like to see universities structured differently.\r\n\r\n- Wait, they've got to hear you back there.\r\n\r\n- Okay, I'd like to see universities structured differently because the example you gave last night of the sixth grade class, that decided EPA wasn't gonna do their job, and they were gonna do it, okay. And what they learned from that process, the multifaceted aspects, that's a teaching process. That's real education. But the university doesn't give us lessons. The university teaches a narrow curriculum. People don't really address real problems in any kind of comprehensive way. What they do instead you're asked to write a paper, that may or may not have any real relationship to real life or what they care about, or what they're gonna be doing when they get .\r\n\r\n- A number of people have to leave right now, we know, and you should feel free to do that. Obviously, you do feel free to do that.\r\n\r\n- And thank you all for coming.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, really. And we'll continue the conversation with those who wanna stay, okay. And I'd like people to respond to what Joe was just saying, but I know it's been hard for some people to listen, but I know this is exactly the moment when they have to go, and it has nothing to do with you, Joe.\r\n\r\n- It has to do with the point he's making, though.\r\n\r\n- As an illustration.\r\n\r\n- Actually, wait for Joe, wait to call on Joe, until exactly this time.\r\n\r\n- Why don't we just sort of face each other. You wanna do that for a moment? Yeah, why don't we just stay for another, you know, Five or 10 minutes or something like that. Just to barely get a sense of it. How people reacted to what Joe was saying about.\r\n\r\n- You know all of you Peter, okay. Joe, you wanna summarize 'Cause some of this folks didn't quite\r\n\r\n- Example we used last night of class sixth grade class. They convinced themselves short order that we can do that.\r\n\r\n- Because on Saturday they raised the money.\r\n\r\n- They also learn what we need to know and educating or learning by doing which is really what we're talking about democracy processes what we don't do in university. Really, I'm serious.\r\n\r\n- What\r\n\r\n- Well, okay.\r\n\r\n- Not\r\n\r\n- Our educational systems don't Work.\r\n\r\n- Do all of you agree with that?\r\n\r\n- Although I think there's a trend in it in public education now. I just attended a presentation by a group of teachers in middle schools and there is this trend to have the cooperative learning as part of, at the elementary level. And it was interesting, it's not just the elementary level apparently it's like the bottom three grades. And there was a fourth grade teacher who went to this conference and everybody was all excited that a fourth grade teacher was there because it was like real cooperative. You're learning third grade, Oh my God, this is revolutionary. But they pointed out that our educational system has emphasized individual learning and competitiveness. And then there's been this sort of cooperation now. And then you send a couple of kids off together to do something. And they're trying to emphasize, not just emphasize I think they're trying to focus the curriculum on a cooperative learning. This is the impression I have. And I would assume that the goal would be someday to institute this, implement this at all levels of education, university level as well. But how it will actually happen, who knows? I mean, they're talking about re-training elementary teachers, you know, kindergarten one to three. The fourth grade teacher goes, that's why, you know, she or he's sort of out of place until the system accepts that this is also appropriate at fourth, fifth and sixth grades as well.\r\n\r\n- Do you see that as a bad? 'Cause I personally.\r\n\r\n- I hope not Well, my mom is an elementary school teacher and I know that part of the training is the in thing.\r\n\r\n- Its a real buzz turn.\r\n\r\n- As far as training of elementary school teachers. And 'cause I also remember when I was in high school, I don't remember the exact title of what the training was but all my high school teachers at that point were going through a new type of school training. I mean, this is something that, and I've always wondered, you know, it's a wonderful idea but we used to say that, you know, these ideas are the best because they retrain them in something new every three, four years. And cooperative learning is really, it's not very hard to do. It's real simple to integrate it into the system. As far as from what I know this is working in group activities together and solving problems as a group and then they go back to their individual seats for instructions. It's a tough thing to actually apply in your life. The students know that at one point in their classroom activities they're gonna get together in groups but otherwise they will, you know, wander back into the closer who said proceeding naturally. It's kind of\r\n\r\n- That's a little bit away from what I'm trying to say. Systems don't work in a vacuum and things are all connected together. But a botanist just looks at him to train somebody just to be a botanist. That's the way you look at and that but that often doesn't seem to solve the problem . Problems don't work like that problems are like this. But we don't teach like this, we teach like this.\r\n\r\n- So you're saying we need to be more diverse\r\n\r\n- Well, we know we need to do it differently. It's not, the diversity is part of it, but it's, they said it's not a, we don't think of it as a hole to\r\n\r\n- Just remember the neighbors understand other arms\r\n\r\n- Enough enough for that, is that, well\r\n\r\n- I think I'd be on my off my complaint or my idea is that we should pigeon holes. So that's what we doing.\r\n\r\n- I think it it's an issue of whether we're going to teach whether we teach, we will become a productive member of society as an economic unit or whether we teach we'll be human beings. I mean, I have two kids in school right now. And so oftentimes I realize that they're operating completely on this mode of, you know like you say, very competitive, real like will I get my assignments done? Will I know exactly what the teacher wants you to know instead of being creative expression, you know behaviors that you'd like to see anybody just children, but adults. And of course the university of Michigan, I mean, it's I think that we trained or becoming this economic unit that that drives our society and the drive is in the district society.\r\n\r\n- But one of the interesting and, you know, hopeful to us maybe in a lot of sense is that I agree. I think we would agree that you've described the exactly the way that we all experienced growing up to be taught to fit in economic units. But I think there's a broad set even among many industrial leaders today that that doesn't work. And so it doesn't work nearly as well got to where we're not really functioning well. And so there's a broader understanding of our self-interested change toward what one of the more hopeful things in addition to cooperative learning that we're we've been observing is it is a shift toward in some schools, certainly not generalized yet or not broadly a seen, but a sort of theme teaching where the whole class, remember that school, that we just talked the principal in Boulder the elementary school, where the teachers got together and then decided on a theme for the entire class for the whole semester. There was a question they were pursuing and that integrated the knowledge that, and we've seen that model working in a number of schools around the country. One of the ones that now has become a prime example that people are traveling all over the country to to observe as in Harlem, East Harlem Central Parky Secondary School, where everything is is organized around themes. And so our hope is that sort of this combination of big kind of dissatisfaction that you all are expressing combined with the sense that those who used to benefit from this narrow sort of teaching aren't benefiting in a way that they want to, there'll be a more and more interest in pursuing some of these different approaches.\r\n\r\n- I don't know whether cooperative learning is going to turn out to be a fad. I don't even care that much. The reason I don't care is that there are lots of, lots of phrases and lots of different approaches that, you know pick up a piece of this very large picture. But what I do know is that the kind of trend that Francis was just talking about really is occurring across all of these sectors. It's occurring in corporations that are finding out that people can in fact collaborate a great deal better and that the kind of system top-down and all of that authoritarian system doesn't really work nearly as well as they thought. And it's occurring in the media where newspapers are learning that. In fact, if they're going to increase the readership or if they're going to hold onto the leaders they got, and some of the, you know, that in fact they've got to start listening to people more and we see this explosion in radio and TV of two way interactive kinds of media. And you know, as I said, you know, corporations and of course we can talk about it in schools. The key here, I think is that once you let the genie out of the bottle, the genie being, you know that you can't put it back in and the genie has something to do with people discovering that all of us can have fun in growth and in collaboration and in these kinds and learning these sorts of skills and that we can wind up with a better community or a better country because of the kinds of activities that we can become engaged in. And so the genie of engagement whether you want to call it at in second grade cooperative learning, you know or you want to call it one of literally 20 or 30 other things doesn't really matter. What does matter is that in fact, almost everywhere people are beginning to discover that I've got just as much going for me as the so-called leaders and that it's fun and rewarding for me to be involved. And that that's a whole other kind of story than, you know than what we've usually been taught.\r\n\r\n- It's sort of once that the assumption starts shifting then there's no turning back and we need to push it.\r\n\r\n- It happens at the college level. Okay, I mean, there are colleges in which all students small colleges in which all students come together on Wednesday morning to discuss anything about the college that anybody wants to bring up from the budget to who the next president is going to be. Like I mean, there are places where that happens. Once you've had that education try going to Iowa state or any place else, you know, and not talking about it-- You know, we visited a public school. Howard School in upstate New York, where students come together like this every week and make policy for the entire school. Now this was a Renegade French School of 20 years ago. Today, that principal is sought after, by everybody as an advisor on school reform. But why, because his school is working and everybody wants to go there now. So, I mean, again, it's a genie out of the bottle. In fact, just the same school. These children last year voted to increase their own high school graduation requirements. So, you know, other people look at this school and they say, \"How are they doing this?\" And they're doing it because the kids themselves feel it's their school. We have this wonderful quote in our book about, you know this is how our school, we make things happen here. So of course we're going to be more active throughout our whole lives, because we we know that we can do it here.\r\n\r\n- What else?\r\n\r\n- We talked about doing things personally and in small groups. And I wonder how power, how effective that's gonna be in the broader terms of the government and how we have to affect the government and how fast would that affect the government to be more accountable for the things they do. I know coming together as groups, we're gonna do that eventually, but how long is that going to take for everyone to get this message and then to--\r\n\r\n- A long time\r\n\r\n- Right, exactly. And the government's doing all this to our society, or you know what I mean, every aspect of our lives, you know there's always something about the government, all of us don't like, you know, whether it be economics or, you know healthcare or whatever, but I just wonder how long can go on before we really focus on the big thing. I wonder what direct things we can do to affect the big thing and making the government more accountable for the things they do and are not--\r\n\r\n- I have three conferences.\r\n\r\n- You wanna say\r\n\r\n- Okay, very briefly. I just have three very quick comments. One of the dangerous about focusing on government and the reason we try not to do it in these talks is that as soon as people start talking about democracy they immediately start thinking about government. And what we're saying is that democracy relates to government, media, human services, your hospital your streets, your anything, your schools, your whatever and that it's all aspects of your life, essentially. So we always have I always get just slightly tense when somebody brings up the subject to government, because I want to be sure that, you know we make that distinction that we're not talking about government. On the other hand\r\n\r\n- We all do include government\r\n\r\n- Second thing I want to say is that there's a book out by Ted Gaebler who Nick called Reinventing Government. And it's becoming very popular Osborne and yeah. Okay, And it's called Reinventing Government. It's becoming very popular among public officials and public administrators across the country. And it talks in a variety of ways about the fact that in fact, government is learning a number of lessons the governments all across the country, literally thousands of them are learning a number of lessons. And so this very slow revolution that we've been talking about in schools is happening in government also. And the third thing that I wanna say is that our own book and some of the examples on that first handout mentioned governments local governments that are redefining their relationship with citizens and citizens redefining their relationship to government. There are various ways to do that, so that we're not stuck in a very narrow model of simple representative government. I mean, what does it mean when you have simply a city council that makes all the decisions for a given city.\r\n\r\n- Thank you for coming.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's one kind of government but then there are governments that have left that intact but then have established neighborhood councils in which lots and lots of decision-making and lots of coming to public judgment takes place. And those are transmitted to the government. And in some cases, as in St. Paul, for example, that kind of system has been in place now for 20 years. And it changes the public culture entirely. So that mayors and city council people know well that they don't come close to making important decisions until in fact, lots and lots of people at the council at the small neighborhood level have had a major role in coming to terms with all of that. And as they point out on, when you get running government and quite a number of other places it may mean that the governmental process takes longer but it also means that it is qualitatively dramatically better.\r\n\r\n- I just wanted to say that that book Reinvented Government you can order from our Institute if you're interested. And the other thing we should\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Or from your books store probably\r\n\r\n- The other thing is that a lot of the things we've been saying today are summarized a little booklet that we produced called Living Democracy, which is a kind of condensed version of the first part of our book. And so if you wanted to take any of these ideas into your classes or into your organizations it's just a little booklet that you could also order from our organization.\r\n\r\n- But that relates to Sylvia. Somebody had to leave said earlier again there's just so little material. So what we've decided is that the next several decades of our lives is about gathering material and distributing material and producing material on our own that begins to chart some of this kind of change that we're talking about in every sector. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Individuals and individual know someone, or being an expert. Like we will get price. If you're going to be an active ad, then you might choose to go to see quite bit to play basketball and just appreciate that this is a team. And you know what I am saying, it's just be able to reckon the athlete and add or just kind of think that they were good and balance enough and you won't have experts. You're giving up some ways. I well expect some part of experience going through them. I don't know how to say.\r\n\r\n- I don't know what she's talking about. Like, I always hear people when they bring up the term with patients that talk about giving up experts, experts in the government, and I'll go with the rest what she's saying\r\n\r\n- There's was a friend of Francis. I wanted to address this, a friend of Francis has coined, you know like that. Experts ought to be on tap not on experts ought to be on tap, not on top. Why don't you explain this?\r\n\r\n- Well. I think that, that there's no, there's nothing in the philosophy or the perspective that we're putting forth it in any way, undercut the need for expertise. We need more expertise, but that, it's a question of how is that expertise used and how it is. In other words, that the role of of us as a citizens is to set the values, grounds within which then the expertise gets applied. Last night, we used the example of Oregon or people in Oregon coming together to decide how was the best way to use a limited number of public health dollars. And so they, the people in this interactive process hundreds of thousands of people in hundreds of house meetings, they grappled with the values which how do we make decisions these kinds of life and death decisions. And of course, to do that they had to have medical expertise coming in to tell them about what are the implications of their different choices. There's tremendous amount of expertise that had to be applied but the citizens had discussed the values. What do we care about? And they had to make some tough choices that weren't medical choices, they were values. Is it more important to keep a baby alive born without a brain for two weeks? Or is it more important to have, you know so many thousands of women covered in prenatal care? Those are valued questions, they're not medical questions. So I don't think anything that we're saying undercuts the need for experts. In fact, we need, you know, obviously our problems are so deep. We need all kinds of expertise and --\r\n\r\n- We had a baby who had no brain and you had Oprah's audience and they are deciding, I mean\r\n\r\n- Well, but see if I say you had Oprah's audience there what we're saying is that more perspectives have to come in. And that's what we're talking about. And yes, they need information,\r\n\r\n- With information they make good decisions\r\n\r\n- Right? But what was so moving to us about the Oregon experience is how much common ground when you get enough people talking and reflecting together. There wasn't a lot of dissent there. There were no demonstrations, I'm for keeping a baby alive at all costs, and I'm for, you know, prenatal care. People did work to reason together and to learn to make tough choices. And we've seen this so many instances that human beings are capable if the environment and that's where the arts of democracy come. How do we create the environment in which people feel that they are listened to? And therefore they're able maybe for the first time to listen to others.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Let's talk about that environment for me. You had Oprah's audience sitting in front of a panel of five women each of which had given birth to a baby with no brain you'd wind up with one kind of decision from that audience. But if you didn't have Oprah's audience but in fact you had Oprah's audience. But in fact, it wasn't just a panel of those people but it was all the other people with claims on the healthcare system. And it wasn't limited to a one-hour show. And it wasn't about a show and it wasn't about drama but was in fact about us learning about the needs of all the people in our community. And beginning to balance that out and having to come up with a budget eventually that has priorities about where the healthcare dollar is going to go. It wouldn't be anything that would appeal to Oprah Winfrey but it would in fact, be something about public judgment that could express the values of the entire community. And I dare say that there are people who in fact may have babies born without brains who may begin to understand some of the needs that other people could also put on the table.\r\n\r\n- I remember that story from El Paso where the this idea, it was televised there, but it wasn't an Oprah Winfrey kind of format. Televise what they call issue forms, where they remember the story about how they brought together elderly people who thought that their health needs were not being adequately addressed in El Paso may had their agenda but they were in this issues, from process listening. Then today's panics who had whose healthcare was so much worse than anything that the elderly had to face that they reassess their own needs in light of what they were hearing from other people in the community. We were very moved by that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah They wound up saying, \"Look, our needs are important. \"And we want to see how much of that we can get met\". But we also recognize the legitimacy of these other needs, and in fact, they were willing to say that some of these other needs are even more, have more immediate pressing demand on the dollars available. And they could do that once they could begin to enter into relationship and could begin to to listen, a great deal more than we ever can, you know, on the, you know, Oprah kind of format or any other format that usually available. Where are the public forums these days in which Americans can face each other and begin to sort this out.\r\n\r\n- Well, some of the names here are struggling with the problem trying to make it a community here something that will take years. And I would have thought the best thing to do I'm not, this is a personal question, I'm asking myself, I see the community process not working. And I don't know where to try to. I don't know how to begin to try to make it work again, because I know that it does control by people and have other interests and not really community. Most people in town know that, but most but the for example, these City Paper is owned by literally physically owned by People assumed that fighting city hall is a waste of time and it's proved to be over the last year. For example, I've been involved and but my first tendency, big enough organization or a mean enough organization to take over and do the same thing to us. Okay that's no solution. The model finding some way to make it into a real community. Again, is really what I want but I don't quite know how to begin. Really.\r\n\r\n- One of the, one of the lessons repeating the term that an audience, well starting the observation. So many people are lamenting that the downfall of what many have called mediating institutions, the clubs and religious organizations that brought people out of their homes out of the isolation. And those are now in decline. So the first step for many people who asking the question you're asking is what are the remaining mediating institutions? And how do we build on those? What are our, certainly there are religious organizations there are civic organizations. How do we start with what we have and to change the way they operate in particularly the religious communities what we've been investigating most recently, for example in Nashville, there's an organizing effort underway there which has the most the motif is using the congregation as the starting point. And when you within each congregation now about 40 in that city, having meetings where a certain number of congregants agree to hold house meetings in their homes where they just listen to the concerns of other people. And it just begins again, not with an issue, but we begin with relationship building and then there's a network of religious organizations. And now they also there including the public housing project in this house meeting process. And perhaps I can hear you, but beginning not with okay, I'm going to go out and reform aims with my agenda, but I'm going to help initiate this. Isn't, it's a, long-term this is taken to, this is not an overnight, you know, take two years in Nashville to get to the point to begin the house meetings, but --\r\n\r\n- But My narrow perspective, because I don't know people. But then there are lots of good things good relationships in the community, and I'm not even sure that my narrow perspective is the political process fail and it's failed. So what do we do instead? And what I hear you saying is go out and find the places where relationships do exist and find ways to build on that.\r\n\r\n- I was going to mention Chattanooga process\r\n\r\n- I'll just be glad.\r\n\r\n- Last week we were in Chattanooga, Tennessee on the same trip to Nashville. And there, it's a very different process there but something worth looking at, you know, for inspiration that in 1986, they put together a team for four. They put together what they called vision 2000. I probably heard about this sort of process in a number of communities where they, in this case they 1700 people participated again in sort of house tight meetings in a in a process of first putting up, you know what are our priorities for improving Chattanooga. And then narrowing that down and put in. Out of that process came about, oh, hundreds of goals of which eight years later, about 85% had been met. I mean, there's some very special characteristics about Chattanooga that made this possible, but the process again of an open, wide open cross race, cross class process but very visible so that, you know, many people in Chattanooga would have said this newspaper is bought off by the either wealthy interest in this town. This is run by the old boys network. And yet, because it was totally open process and they went to such lengths to engage different sectors of the community, that it did have some very real impact including a no of battered woman, show everything from a battered woman's shelter to a new state aquarium to the became that the centerpiece of the revitalized downtown. So that's something you might wanna there are a number of cities that have gone through this process. Roanoke, Phoenix that have a city-wide sort of real public visioning process. That might be interesting\r\n\r\n- As we're talking realistically, you know we don't want to minimize the difficulty. Then as Francis mentioned, how long it can take can also be very, very difficult. And there are drawbacks to every single bit of this. If you're doing congregation based organizing, for example because that's the last institution left in your city, you also know that they're going to be a number of people who are not going to participate precisely because it is congregation based. And you know that because it is congregation based there are also some limits to how far they will go. You know, how much, you know, how much time and effort you have to pour into just getting some ministers on rabbi to go along with you and to permit this kind of thing to be happening and so on. So it's, you know, there are limitations in Chattanooga. They had this wonderful process. And the reason I was thinking about Chattanooga at a minute ago is, and I'll tie this in in just a second is related to the earlier point about, about experts but they had this wonderful process of citywide process. And yet the fact is that some of the poorest and some of the darkest of all the citizens of Chattanooga really didn't participate in the last round, but they expect to participate eight years later in the world literally has just begun this past week, and their environmental concerns and the toxic dumping in their poor communities not addressed the first time around. There are limitations. There are always going to be criticisms that are going to be valid, and yet, in fact the process moves forward. And most of the people in these communities feel that they're better off.\r\n\r\n- Well, it's just that what Paul's describing it it'd be even if you can say that the immediate gains are limited or difficult to achieve and that you begin, but even by going through this process to legitimize the notion that citizens have a lot more to say about this community than simply voting to elect a given you know, official every few years. And that starts to get back to the genie out of the bottle that Paul was saying to Jennifer's comment that once those assumptions start shifting about what citizens role should be, how can you go back to a process in which citizens aren't consulted? So that it begins to open up.\r\n\r\n- The thing that I wanted to relate the question about Chattanooga to the point about Chattanooga too to the question about experts was that Chattanoogans came together as Francis said, this vision 2000 kind of process. And now they're talking about revision 2000. That's the process that we're in right now in which they establish all of these goals throughout the city in these meetings. And thousands of people contributed to that. Anybody who had anything to say was considered legitimate and those goals went up on this large sheet and then they began to kind of boil those down. And they discovered that there were three parts of the city that they wanted to focus on. One of them was the downtown area where they wanted a good deal, more physical development. They wanted a bridge restored and they wanted a new aquarium and they wanted this and that and the riverfront park and so on. That then is where the experts came in. That once the values had been established, the framework the priorities have been listed. Then the experts could come in and could begin to come up with some of the options as to how that might might happen. That's something like an architect we know who's a very good architect who says I can't design your house for you until you tell me what he calls your program. Once I know what you're really going to do what you really value, large kitchens and small bathrooms or vice versa, or whatever it is or where you want to play and where you want to study or whatever it is, then I can begin. But I've got to know your values first. That's exactly what we found in the vital organization almost well more than two decades ago, when we took four people who had never been involved in any decision, public decision making process this big oven said, all right, look, we now have gotten a major federal grant to build low income housing. And you're going to have, since we're taking your land you're going to have first call on the units. What do you want these units to contain? And in meeting, after meeting they began to discuss all sorts of things. And it turned out that things that the architects were originally drawn up some ideas had never thought of turned out to be very, very important. They didn't want a central laundry facility. They wanted a washer. It'd be people with large families. Obviously it sounds obvious now, but they wanted a washer and dryer in every single apartment. And they didn't give a damn if they had to give up some carpeting and some room in order to get the washer and dryer they were willing to make the trade-offs. But the point is that the experts came in later they had been held on tap. They were not on top. They were not making the decisions and the most important final decisions they were being drawn on. And in fact, as Francis said too, what we really needed in the process were even better experts than we have. We need to wrap this up fairly soon, but go ahead.\r\n\r\n- This is big move. I mean, finally, at the end of it there's this big move that maybe we need to go into a village. We should ask them first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42963/file/115619#t=0.0,2128.176"}]}]}]}