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million,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42744/file/115251#t=2803.14,2806.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42744/file/115251/transcript/26738/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which in military terms is a pittance,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42744/file/115251#t=2806.09,2808.693"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42744/file/115251/transcript/26738/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and which would be a joint American-Russian 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And this is the latest in the lecture series on science and technology for sustainable development. James Vary will introduce our speaker in just a minute. I just want to give you a little bit of background. The lecture series is supported by the Office of the President. That's not Bill Clinton, but it is Martin Jischke. The International Institute of Theoretical and Applied Physics, the Department of Physics and Astronomy, and the Committee on Lectures, which always needs to be identified, is funded by the graduate student body. The Government of the Student Body, excuse me. The series is designed to bring noted scientists and engineers, and other distinguished lecturers to campus to stimulate multi-disciplinary dialogue on issues of importance to the future of our society in the coming century. In particular, we hope to strengthen the capacity of our academic community to contribute to achieving sustainable global and regional development. Preparing our students for leadership roles and meeting the economic and environmental challenges ahead is also the driving force in establishing this lecture series. Just after the presentation tonight, there will be a reception. There will be food and drink over in that corner of the hall. And at this juncture, let me give you Dr. James Vary.\r\n\r\n- It's my pleasure on behalf of all the sponsors and Iowa State University to welcome Dr. Kurt Gottfried to campus for his lecture this evening. Dr. Gottfried is the chairman of the board of the Union of Concerned Scientists, an organization which he helped co-organize in 1969. And he's especially well known for his efforts in understanding and researching the threats of nuclear war and nuclear terrorism. He's given testimony on the complexities of defense against missiles and the deployment and effective use of nuclear weapons for security. He's one of our most renowned and outspoken specialists in these areas, but I would also like to add that he is an accomplished research scientist as well. He has about 100 refereed publications in nuclear and particle physics. And on the theoretical side, one of the attributes of his work is there's a sum rule named after him, called the Gottfried sum rule. He also has done extensive research more recently into the foundations of quantum mechanics and yesterday gave us a colloquium in the physics department concerning his recent research in this area. He has numerous publications as well in the area of science policy, having to do with the deployment of weapons and the strategic posture of the United States. Most recently, for example, in Scientific American and also in Nature. And he deals with very complex issues that we all confront and is highly regarded for his very careful analysis and also his outspoken views on these matters. So tonight, he's going to speak in particular on nuclear weapons and international security. Please join me in welcoming Dr. Kurt Gottfried.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Please make sure that you can hear me because my voice doesn't carry all that well, and this microphone is not movable unless I move it. So the issue I'm talking about is actually in a very interesting and rather dramatic way, of course, concerns itself with sustainable development because if what I'm talking about is not kept under control, we will have very unsustainable developments. It's now 40 years roughly, or actually it's for 40 years from the end of 1950, say, to 1990, the United States and the Soviet Union devoted prodigious resources, both human and material, to developing an insanely dangerous situation, the ability to destroy each other on only a few minutes notice. We both perfected organizations that could decide to carry out this act in a matter, literally, of minutes and to complete the act, that is to cause enormous destruction, within the hour of a decision. Now, we got into this, I think by any meaning of the word insane, this insane situation through a large number of steps. Some of these steps were only in retrospect stupid. Some of them were often recognized at the time as being stupid. But in fact, many of them were almost unavoidable and as a consequence of the proceeding steps. So you had a large number of steps which eventually led to a more and more dangerous situation and somehow once one got on this slippery slope, the slippery slope, of course, being caused by this coincidence. It's really a coincidence of discovery of first fission weapons and then thermonuclear weapons at the same time as the United States and its allies confronted Stalin, the Soviet Union under Stalin. Once we got onto this slippery slope, it really was extremely difficult to get off it. And in fact, we now can see, I think, very clearly that it was much more difficult to get off it than we thought at the time. Because the Soviet Union has been gone for a decade, and this insane situation that was produced by the Cold War in some important sense has not changed. And that's what I want to basically talk about. So the way I like to put it is that we have an insane situation which used to have an insane logic, and now we have an insane situation without an insane logic. It's just there. Now, you might at first think that what I'm talking about is that I'm out of control. After all, we all know that there have been important changes. The weapons have been reduced. I'll talk a little about that. But the issue is not widely recognized that the number of weapons, while important, is really not fundamental to judging the danger of the situation. The numerical sizes of the arsenals are not, and I wanna repeat, they are not a good indicator of the dangers that they pose. The real indicators are the military plans for the use of the weapons, the plans that are designed to make them usable on incredibly short notice, on warning of attack, and the fact that this warning might be false. So the arsenals' size is a large measure secondary to these considerations. Now, why are the arsenals' size not that important? It's basically because the weapons are so enormously powerful. Every weapon we have today on average, I'm talking about strategic weapons, weapons for use in intercontinental ballistic missiles in particular are on average some 10 times more powerful than the Hiroshima and Nagasaki weapon, roughly speaking. So that even if all the arms control proposals that have been talked about were to be signed immediately and implemented immediately, we would then be left with something like 2,000 strategic warheads on each side, which is a lot better than 10,000 at the time of the end of the Cold War, and it's also better than the 6,000 we have today. Still 2,000 thermonuclear warheads are enough to produce a disaster that's just beyond our imagination. Now, of course, the likelihood of such a disaster does depend on the political climate. It's not just an issue of technical means of destruction. So the likelihood of the disaster does depend on the political climate in which a decision to use the weapons would be made. It would be dependent on the validity of the information that leads to such a decision, and it would depend also on the ability of the organizations, which I'll try to indicate to you are enormously complex organizations of men, and procedures, and machines to assess the information to decide whether it is valid information, to execute the decision, and to follow rigid preexisting plans that leave very few minutes for deliberation. And I mean, very few minutes. So it's not possible, of course, to make a credible estimate of the likelihood of such a disaster. And I don't even want to spend any time on how likely that is because I, frankly, wouldn't know how to do it. But I don't think it's obvious that the likelihood of a disaster is significantly smaller than it was during the Cold War. And that to me is an unacceptable situation. In a certain sense, before the Cold War was ended, you could rationalize why we had to stay in this situation, but I think today the rationalization for the current situation is essentially untenable. This is a university, so it therefore has many students who were fortunate to not live through this whole period, and you may not all be aware of the facts that I'm talking about, or you may even not believe that they're facts because it does sound so implausible. So let me just quickly go through some of the basic facts that that lie behind what I'm talking about. I'm not too happy with this setup here. That's better. Okay, thank you. So I've called this, apocalypse on a tight schedule. So the facts are, and this'll take us about 25 minutes to 30 minutes to fly from Montana to central Russia or the other way around and about 15 minutes or less to go from a submarine that launches ballistic missiles from, say, the North Atlantic to either Moscow or Washington. Another very important fact is that modern land-based and submarine-based missiles have an accuracy that's sufficient to destroy a hardened missile silo with rather high confidence. Both sides have the ability to decapitate each other. That is to destroy their command, the leadership, military and civilian leadership, and a very large portion of their strategic forces if the opponent is in its peace time posture, has not taken measures to protect itself. And these vulnerabilities led the United States and the Soviet Union to develop the technical means of a command organization to launch large portions of their land-based missiles on warning of attack. Now, let me show you just quickly what the US warning system consisted of. It consisted of satellites. There they are. Three satellites in geosynchronous orbits, high orbits, which look at the whole globe and which can see and signal to command headquarters within about a minute of the launch of a missile anywhere on the Earth. And this system is sufficiently powerful that, according to all reports, it saw all Scud missiles launched during the Gulf War. So much smaller missiles and ballistic missiles, and intercontinental warheads. The next thing that we have are, so these would see any missile launched. Then, here's the US radar network here. That white spot in the middle was, roughly speaking, the United States. We are sitting right about in the middle of the white spot. And these gray areas are radar fans for what's called the ballistic missile early warning radars. So the idea is, that a warning of attack consists of two signals which have to match. The satellites have to see the launch of a missile, and they can give a rough estimate of what direction that missile is going in, and then in the time that you can calculate by just using mechanics when that missile should appear in a radar, radar has to show that missile. If only a radar shows it, or only the satellite shows it, or if a radar shows something going in the wrong direction, that's just considered an accidental error and ignored. But if there is a proper coincidence, then that is a potential attack. Now, this should give you some feeling for the complexity of the command organization. I'm not gonna to leave this on very long because it either has to stay on for half an hour or 10 seconds, but this is the US during the Cold War, the US command and control system for strategic forces. And I'll just quickly go over it. Here is SAC headquarters. The blue is the peace time system. Everybody's sitting in their office, so to say. All the silos are not on alert. Till the end of the Cold War, we always had an airborne command post. The SAC headquarters had a ground headquarters and also a whole command team in the air at all times, 24 hours a day for some 30 years. And all the commanders, say, for the Atlantic fleet and the Pacific fleet had airborne command posts. And if there was an alert, then all sorts of things took place, which I don't wanna go through. But this system was able to launch the forces from the air. Even if SAC headquarters was destroyed, the airplanes could launch the missiles. It's much, much more complicated than that. I mean, enormous ingenious efforts went into it. Now, the Russian system. This is really what is the burden of what I'm gonna be talking about in a sense. The Russian system was comparable, though not as sophisticated in important ways. Here's the Russian satellite system. These are the early warnings Russian satellites. They were not in geosynchronous orbit. They were in these strange, very elliptical orbits and had many satellites on them. And the reason was that the Russians did not apparently have the technology to see a missile launch unless it was seen against the black background of space. We could see missile launches against clouds and glaciers, or whatever, by data processing. I don't wanna go into that. They had to see it against the background of space, and so they had to have enough satellites that they could always see a missile launching out of the missile fields in the middle and in the middle west against the background of space. And this was in a configuration that was designed for that purpose. And they had one geosynchronous satellite which could sweep the Atlantic for submarine launches from the Atlantic. Now, today that system is very degraded. I can't tell you how degraded it is because I'm not quite sure, but apparently we know that this system is highly degraded because the satellites are not in their proper orbits and the orbits keep changing. And this geosynchronous satellite can't see most of the ocean. So they have very poor at best, very poor warning from early warning satellites. The radar system, the Russian radar system, also has very serious problems. Here's the Russian radar. Remember the American one, which completely enveloped United States. Actually, that's a slightly dated picture. It's from 1991 or so. I think we no longer look south of Florida towards the South Atlantic. We used to do that, but the Russian submarine fleet is not what it used to be, so I guess we're not worried about having launches from the Caribbean. Here is the Russian system. Moscow's in the middle here. And there is no radar coverage at all. This here is the North Pacific. So a submarine in the North Pacific launching toward central Russia would not be seen by their radar system. Partly the reason for this is the breakup of the Soviet Union because the radar's over here. It's a long story, but one of the things is the radar, to be in conformity with the anti-ballistic missile system, the radar could not be in Russia. It would have to be in one of the former states of the Soviet Union. And over here, it's even more striking. The hole over here, which points to the North Atlantic, used to be covered by a radar in Latvia, but Latvia left the Soviet Union and that radar was dismantled. And in fact, I'm told it was dismantled with the help of US funds. Now, here is the schedule of what I called, apocalypse on a tight schedule. Here is the, oh yes, so believe it or not, many of you may know this but many don't. As time progressed, especially during the '70s, as missile accuracies kept improving, and as the forces on both sides kept improving, and as they therefore became more vulnerable, both the Soviet Union and the United States moved towards some, what I might call, prompt launch. A strategy where you would launch missiles, either on warning of attack or on the first absolute evidence of attack, as soon as the first nuclear explosion took place. That's an enormously tight and strenuous regime to work under. And to give you some feeling for it, this is a time plot which is written. It comes out of a publication. This was put together during the '80s by a man named Walter Slocombe, who was Under Secretary of Defense under the Carter administration and who now is again Under Secretary of Defense. So this is not my, you know, an artist's conception. So here is, at this point, you see a launch of a Russian land-based missile. That's 30 minutes. And here, I don't know why time runs in this direction, but anyway, 30 minutes later it lands. And this gives you the warning of the satellite, then there's a threat assessment. Here, people start coming in. After five minutes, there's a threat assessment conference. Confirmation to launch stock from satellites. Radar start to detect the ICBMs. This here is the last time to generate a message for the ballistic missiles, US ballistic missiles to be launched under attack. That's after 20 minutes. By this time, the signal has to be both from military headquarters in Wyoming to the Pentagon, to the President or his delegate, and a decision has to be made because it takes all of five or six minutes, which isn't very much, to formulate obviously an order that was constructed long ago by somebody from a menu of orders. And here's the last chance for missiles to be launched so that they are not destroyed while they are rising. Now, this is the scenario, it's much shorter, as you can see, for a Russian launch on warning from an attack by a submarine, US submarine. Let's not go through that. It takes 10 minutes. 10, 15 minutes, something like that. Now, why do I show the Russians being on a shorter time leash? The reason is that the United States developed during the '80s, I mean, the Russians did too, but not to the same extent, an enormously capable submarine-launched missile capability. Our missiles on submarines are as accurate as land-based missiles, perhaps more accurate. They're the most modern warheads are on submarines. And there's enough, in principle, submarines at sea to destroy the Soviet command system and most of their land-based missiles if in peacetime. Because in peace time, the land-based missiles in the Soviet Union and now Russia, they're mobile missiles most of them, but they're not out on the road, so to say. They're in garrison, and so they're sitting ducks. So if there were to be a surprise attack, it would be not that difficult to get them. So that's the situation we face today that we have Russia facing a, both sides still face, in principle, an enormous threat, but in the case of Russia, it does not have the capability to really make a proper assessment of attack. Now, I want to. Let's see. How much? You'll have to give me some, there's no clock in this room.\r\n\r\n- We have about 25 to go.\r\n\r\n- 25 to go, okay. Now, the first thing I wanna say, and say that with the greatest of emphasis, the military has been amazing on both sides that they have been managing this unbelievable system for decade after decade without having a catastrophic accident. So anything I'm saying here is not a criticism of the military doing these things. It's amazing that they've done so well. But there have been a rather small number of screw-ups. There's one in 1979, I think it is, when somebody in NORAD headquarters put a training tape into the wrong computer which simulated a large Russian attack, you know, with the satellites, and all that system went off with a large attack, and it went through the command chain up to the military. It's not totally clear whether it went to Brzezinski, who was Carter's National Security Advisor or his military advisor, but they were hauled out of bed and told that there was a possibility of a Russian missile attack, and in a few minutes you may have to call the President. And then, someone along those lines, probably, I'm not sure whether it was, it was probably in the Pentagon, asked to see the data from the satellites, the actual data. And there was no data because it was just a training tape. But wanted to see the data that came from the satellites and the radars. There wasn't any. There was also another one almost within a year, which was not taken as seriously because of the first one, when there was some computer chip that went crazy and also generated a fake thing. A more worrisome thing happened under roughly current circumstances in 1995 when NASA launched a missile from an island in the extreme Arctic which was sent up to study ionospheric phenomenon, and the Russians seemed to have taken this as a precursor to an attack because it went up in direct line between central Russia and Grand Forks Air Force Base in North Dakota, and one of the standard scenarios for starting a nuclear attack is to put up a high-altitude, from a submarine, nuclear explosion to set off high atmospheric phenomena, which would blind radars. So what we do know is that they called a high-level alert which went all the way to Yeltsin, who called it off. At that point, they may still have had enough satellite capability to see that there were no subsequent launches. It is believed they would not be able to do that today. They would just have to assume, basically, that it was a mistake, which is a safe assumption, actually. Safer than something about it, but anyway. So that's a situation that we now have. I don't wanna spend too much time right now as to why do we still have this situation. Well, I can't spend too much time on it because I can't explain it, but I'll just be very brief. At the beginning of the Carter administration, there was a high-level review of what's called a Nuclear Posture Review. And that Posture Review, after maybe a year or so in the bowels of the bureaucracy, came back with a decision, which essentially amounts to staying with the Cold War posture of the nuclear forces and not changing. I'm not talking now about the numbers only, but with the whole war plans based on prompt response to attack and so forth, and with a posture which, of course, was designed in a way to continue presenting a very serious threat to Russia. We, of course, don't know what the Russians did. Now, if we're going to address this situation, this is not a technical problem, really. It is basically a political problem. All these problems in the end are usually political. Although the technical ingredient is, of course, enormously important. If there were no thermonuclear weapons and no ballistic missiles, we wouldn't be talking about this particular situation. So I'm not trying to say that the technical component of this is irrelevant. So I will try to come back and say what I think are some things that could be done to get out of this situation. And I'll come back to that then. I want to briefly talk about two other current developments involving strategic weapons which play into this. They don't play into it in a very powerful way, but they do. And they're both things that are much more in the news. I mean, probably, without insulting people, but why should anybody really worry about this crazy thing? That's somebody else's problem. And therefore, most people are not aware that it even exists, which is, if nothing happens, is perfectly sensible. There are other things to be worried about, about some very low probability catastrophe. So the other two things which are very much in the news, I'll briefly wanna talk about. One is the plan by the Clinton administration, under a lot of pressure from Congress, to deploy missile defense, national missile defense system, which the President is supposed to decide to deploy this fall. Now, the threat that that is supposed to address is the possibility that so-called rogue States, North Korea, Iraq, Iran are the usual ones that's identified in this nice way, are acquiring a capability to have intercontinental ballistic missiles and perhaps also acquiring the capability to build nuclear warheads or biological weapons. And the ballistic missile, this national missile defense is one of these high-tech systems designed, not designed, but with the mission of shooting down missiles that come in from such small attacks. Why small attacks? Well, because we've painfully learned, and I don't have the time, and this would be a whole lecture series. We've painfully learned that it is virtually impossible to defend against a large attack. This is the third attempt by the United States to put up a missile defense. The Russians did it once. In fact, this is a stupid move that was started by the Russians. The Russians put up a ballistic missile defense of Moscow, which still is there, and everybody, including I think the Russians agree, that the end product of that is that many more Russian, many more US missiles are now targeted on Moscow than they were before this missile defense was put up. But it eventually led us, under the Johnson and Nixon administration, to try to design a missile defense system, which was in fact eventually deployed, one battery in North Dakota. Grand Forks, North Dakota was up for a year and then dismantled because it was decided it wasn't cost effective. The reason that that collapsed was really a recognition by both the United States and the Soviet Union that it was cheaper to build more attacking missiles than defensive measures, and that what would happen was what happened to Moscow. Namely, you would simply have more. It was cheaper for the opponent to build more missiles than it was for you to defend against them, and so you would simply be accelerating the arms race. The ABM Treaty was designed to prevent that from happening. It's a very sophisticated, complicated, and actually very clever treaty, which would take an hour to go into explaining why it's written the way it is. So the lesson of that was that you can't, against a large attack, it is futile. At least, it may be not futile anymore against Russia in principle because Russia no longer has the economic resources to perhaps respond. But I think it's fair to say that no one, as far as I can tell, in Washington on any political quarter is thinking that this current national missile defense is going to be used eventually against Russia. At least, against the Russian force of current size. However, when you put it together, with the disparity in capabilities of Russia now and the United States, it does have some impact on what we might do to address the situation that I described first that has brought Russia and the United States, I shouldn't say has brought, has left Russia and the United States in this, what I called, insane situation. I have some transparencies to show where the missile defense system, but I think I won't show it because it'll just flood you with more things flying around in the sky. I'll just show you. Here's one. Obviously, it'll take 15 minutes to describe it. You have all sorts of satellites. It's the usual thing. You know, Star Wars type thing but much scaled down. Very simple compared to Star Wars, which of course never existed, except in the budget. And radars all over, and satellites, and interceptors, and so forth. So eventually, when fully deployed, this system will have some capability, quite a lot of capability against China, even though it's not ostensibly designed against China, and also some capability against Russia. Not very much, but some. And the impact on Russia, I think, since that's the focus of what I wanna talk about, is that it will put a floor under which the Russians will not be willing to reduce. The reason is, simply enough, that as you reduce your forces, if you are caught in a surprise attack, you might be left with just a very small number of missiles, and then a not very capable system might really start to be capable against that residual counter attack. And you may think this is crazy, a way of thinking about things, but I think there's absolutely no question if the tables were reversed, from everything I've seen over the years in dealing with a lot of military people and planners, we would certainly never go down to low levels if the shoe was on the other foot because not even worst case analysis, but even any sensible analysis will tell you that that's a pretty dangerous situation to be in to have the other person have stronger offensive forces plus a defensive force, especially when you're strapped for funds and can't respond. In so far as proliferation is concerned, of course, everything that I've talked about sends the very clear message to everybody in the world, all the would-be nuclear states, that we put an enormously high value on our nuclear capabilities. And this was brought out very significantly in the defeat of the Test Ban Treaty by the Senate. We have without question by far the most sophisticated, capable, and secure nuclear forces. And yet the opponents who've succeeded in defeating the attempt to ratify the treaty, basically made the argument that we cannot tolerate any question whatsoever about the capability of these forces, say, 10 or 15 years from now. 'Cause if we're not testing, then there may be some smidgen of uncertainty about our capabilities, and that will be an intolerable vulnerability. Of course, they're also saying to all other states that don't have nuclear weapons that it's not good for you to have nuclear weapons. It's bad for your security. But for us, even though we have 1000s of nuclear weapons, we've been building them for 50 years, they always work. There's no question that they work, that we can't afford to have any insecurity about them. I thought Mr Clinton's speech in front of the Indian Parliament was really, in a sense, an absurdity because he was lecturing them that it wouldn't be good for their security to have nuclear weapons, while he's leader of the state that will not tolerate any question whatsoever about, even totally unreasonable questions. Because I just wanted to show you one slide about the test ban situation. This is a record of all the underground tests in the period 1958 to 1992. Underground testing stopped in 1992. And these are a record of all indications of problems with nuclear weapons that were shown up. And there were 830 problems shown up. Now, of these, this is not incidentally problems with nuclear weapons while they're being developed. This is problems with nuclear weapons that are commissioned and sitting out in a silo, or on a strategic bomber, or in a submarine. This biggest bunch are laboratory tests. And anyway, all except this one box, underground tests, which is 1% of them, were problems that were found by techniques that would not be forbidden by the Test Ban Treaty. So in other words, the Test Ban Treaty, the underground tests have been essentially irrelevant to verifying the reliability of the deployed weapons. The underground tests have been important to developing new weapons, but they have been of not even barely marginal importance to verifying the reliability of deployed weapons. Nevertheless, this smidgen of uncertainty was enough to defeat the treaty. Actually, I think there were many other domestic and other reasons for defeating the treaty which were more important, including the incompetence of the Clinton administration in presenting the treaty. And in fact, a lot of the problems we have here is due to the incompetence, to be very brutal and frank about that, the Clinton administration has done a dreadful job in handling the whole nuclear weapon problem since it came to office. And I say that as a lifelong Democrat. Now, what might one do about this? Well, I think, as I said, there are two dimensions to this whole situation. I mean, many dimensions, but two broad dimensions. One is our relationship with Russia, which is today the only country, the only power that can really destroy the United States. Compared to what Russia could do by error, or by incompetence, or whatever, it just is enormous compared to what any rogue state can do. If we really get down to be really bloody-headed about it, if a North Korean, I mean, if you are willing to accept this totally implausible scenario of one of the weakest countries on Earth, like North Korea, sending a nuclear missile to destroy, say, Los Angeles. This missile has a home address marked on it. We know exactly where it's coming from within a minute of launch. If you're willing to accept that, okay, then it will kill a lot of people, but that'll be nothing compared to what would happen if there was an erroneous Russian launch. So I would want to separate, at least because of time, the issue of dealing with Russia and the issue of dealing with proliferation, although they are linked, because I think it is not possible, or at least extremely difficult, virtually impossible to have an effective non-proliferation policy without the cooperation of Russia and China. And so having a relationship with Russia which is more productive, at least more constructive in these directions, will have consequences for our non-proliferation policy also. So what are some of the things that we wanna do? There are some concrete things that one might wanna do. And to show you that this is something that serious people have actually done some thinking about, I didn't know this till quite recently, there is a Congressional Budget Office study requested by Senator Daschle, who's the Minority Leader of the Senate, about a year and a half ago, for a menu of options of what we might do to help with the Russian early warning system. And here, I'll just flash it quickly. There's five options. Some of them are politically not very sensible in a way. President Clinton has, in a recent meeting, I think, with Putin actually, proposed that we have some joint warning system. Many people think that doesn't really make too much sense because the Russians would have to be suspicious that we're giving them data that might be deceptive. It's not something they would be operating independently. But one of the things that I find particularly attractive is the following, is item five here, which is supposed to have a budget of $190 million, which in military terms is a pittance, and which would be a joint American-Russian venture to explore technology for the next generation of early warning satellites. Now, that won't solve the problem right away, but it would solve them within a matter of five or six years. And there's a detailed study of this. 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First of all, in rhetoric, in, what's the terms? In stated policy, for example, we are unwilling to accept, even today, no first use of nuclear weapons policy. We have made, under quite, made it very clear, that we are not willing to state, that we will not use nuclear weapons, first. In other words, that we will not use, we will not, we have refused to make a declaration that we will only use nuclear weapons, if attacked by nuclear weapons, or if one of our allies are attacked by nuclear weapons. Which was always our Cold War posture. It's still our posture now. So this again, is not exactly something that stands to make you a very convincing salesman for nonproliferation. So there are a number of things, a menu of things that one might do. I don't think that these are all really more complicated when you look at them carefully than they look at first sight. And so there's no more, no I don't want to get a long laundry list of things, some of which might be silly and some of which might make sense. I think some of these technology transfer type things or cooperative things make a lot of sense. And it's obviously in our security, not security, in the interest of our survival, to make sure that the Russians have decent early warning. And that's much more important than giving some technology that they might then use, perhaps on some cruising missile or other that they're gonna use someplace. I mean, you know, we have to start measuring in a more, with a more sensible metric. Whether it's to our advantage and our disadvantage. Another thing that we should be doing is lowering the level of threat that we pose. And here is a, and the gravest threat we pose, at least in principle to the Soviets, to the Russians, sorry, are the submarines, is the submarine threat. Because it is so accurate, it's so forward deployed. And the general talk around town, as you might say in Washington, is that the Russians cannot track our submarines at all. Our submarines are, are extremely silent. The Russian attack submarines are not very capable. And the Russian ballistic missile submarines are in bad shape. At most, two at sea at any time. And it is generally said, in the corridors, that we can track them with our attack submarines. So what we should do, is stop deploying the most advanced ballistic missiles that we have on our submarines and not modernize. These are some details, some of the warheads that are on there with newer generation. And I think the other thing that we should be doing, is we should not patrol in areas where they would, make them vulnerable to a launch with very short warning. And one, there are also arrangements, which I don't want to go into. There have been arrangements discussed for a long time, which would allow the other side, in this case there's only one other side, really, which is Russia. Because their submarines are generally thought to be, you know at home anyway, a means for ascertaining on a statistical basis at least, that we have not deployed submarines close to places where we would catch them by surprise. And, the most important thing that we should be doing, and which we have done, is to do these things without long-winded negotiations. The Bush Administration did a number of things, very important things, very quickly. Not on their own, unilaterally. The Bush Administration did several things which many of you probably know. And one thing that most people don't know. George, the first, he took all bombers off alert, unilaterally. That is to say, that bombers at SAC bases had their weapons taken off them and put into storage at the base. But, you know, that makes the time required to launch much longer. He took all sea-based, tactical nuclear weapons off the ships. And a large number of tactical nuclear weapons out of Europe. And there was a reciprocation by Gorbachev, also. But these were not negotiated. At least not openly negotiated. But, you know, with long, nothing was signed. Presumably there may have been some private conversations about this because there were reciprocal movements by the Russians, by Gorbachev. And that's the path that one should take. Once these things have been shown to work, one can then send the diplomats off to write it all down in detail and spend four years getting all the I's and T's in the right order and have a document that I think we should be moving quickly in the United States, since it has such enormous power in every dimension today, has the responsibility to do this in an imaginative way. And it has done it before. The last thing that I forgot to mention that Bush did, is, he also ordered that all the minute mats of missiles, which were slated for eventual decommissioning because of the Arms Control Treaty, should be immediately, essentially put out a commission. By having pins, certain inserts into their engine so that they couldn't be launched, unless the technician went in, you know, and took time to, they could not be launched on warning anymore. So, there are things that can be done by an administration, by a government, that has the will to do it and the courage to do it. And that is, I think, the direction in which we can move and must move and do so with dispatch. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Question.\r\n\r\n- Please.\r\n\r\n- The U.S. Navy, who have literally logged all the oceans of the world, that we could tell exactly which Russian submarine was at what address, longitude, latitude, within about a yard or so. Do the Russians have a similar device? I'm finding out there are submarines where,\r\n\r\n- Well, first of all, I never, I didn't know, we had such capabilities as you described. I think that you know, it's one of these situation where if I knew, I couldn't tell you. But I've never heard that we have, that our capability is as sophisticated as you say. I think we know where the Russian submarines are in the deep oceans by following them. But I don't think that we can tell where they are.\r\n\r\n- They have dropped things in the ocean,\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- That when something passes by,\r\n\r\n- Yes, yes, that's true. We had dropped things, for example, I know we had dropped devices between Greenland and Iceland, so we could tell when a submarine crossed, but that doesn't mean we knew where it was the next day. I mean, we had, we had, I, we had a means of telling that a submarine had gone into the North Atlantic. That didn't tell us exactly where it was after that.\r\n\r\n- Do the Russians have a similar,\r\n\r\n- Well you see, the Russians have a problem which faced Peter the Great, they don't have very good access to the oceans. So they can't go out of the Baltic for obvious reasons, I mean, there's only, you can take a canoe across from Sweden to Denmark. So that's not a very good way. And in the East, at Vladivostok, you also have all of these islands, so they in fact, built two bases. They built this base in Petropavlovka, or however it's pronounced, which is way out on the end of Siberia, in order to have access to the ocean. It's extremely expensive to do this. There, I don't think there was even a railway going up there. And then they had the other submarines come out of Mooremonts. So in the, the ones that come out are Mooremonts, because of geography, give us the ability to tell when they are leaving the general area. But I think we can't, I don't think we can do what you're saying. At least I've never heard that. If you know how to do it, you should go to, maybe, headquarters and patent it. Yes sir, hi.\r\n\r\n- Very interesting. I couldn't help but thinking about some very old-fashioned diplomacy, when you were putting up your one transparency, on some very high tech issues, namely, if you will, a U.S./Russia condominium on the next generation of satellites. Here's my question. Can you think of anything more frightening and disturbing to the Chinese? When they look at something like that, it's such an arrangement between the us and the Russians. It looks very much like old fashioned, balance of power politics. Will they not interpret regimes that are clearly intended to stabilize things and be helpful as BRAF directed against them?\r\n\r\n- That's quite possible. The only thing I can say, is that I think it's quite remarkable, how slowly the Chinese have built up their nuclear capabilities. They've clearly, well clearly has been, one should never use the word clearly, they seem to have learned an important lesson from what happened to the Russians. That it's not good for your health, to put in this huge effort into strategic forces that the Russians did. Because they now have what's generally believed, and what's generally said is, they have 20 or so Intercontinental ballistic missiles, capable of reaching the United States or Moscow. And they're liquid fueled, not solid fueled, so they take quite a long time to prepare for launch and are in fact quite vulnerable 'til then. So they seem to have taken the attitude that minimum deterrence is good enough for us, you know, and they haven't got much of a submarine capability. So I don't know to what extent, I can't say, that's your profession. But I think that, all I know is, the combination of things we're doing now is also disquieting to them because the missile defense actually is stated to be against a small attack from China. Yes.\r\n\r\n- You say a few words about verification. How did Gorbachev knew Bush did what he said he did?\r\n\r\n- I don't think they did have verification. I think, they just decided they're both sensible. I mean, you know verification has been over done, in the sense that verification is extremely important if what you're going to do actually makes you very vulnerable. But what they did was to really remove weapons, which they, in fact, had not much interest in. The Navy did not like, I know from, in fact, the Army also does not like nuclear weapons. You know, they're, I know from some Army Generals I've talked to, a Navy officer, you know, that they're a royal pain in the you know where. You have to devote enormous effort to keeping control over them, making sure they're secure. And you also know damn well, you're never going to use them. So, I think that it was not a politically difficult, internal move for him to do, or, as some people have put it, he didn't allow the bureaucracy to generate opposition. He just did it. Now, I'm not saying that, for example, that you can go all the way without verification but you can start steps and then come back. I mean, the point is that these are not irreversible steps. You know, we not only have the missiles that are our Strategic Arms Control agreements are for deployed missiles. We have, we are, at the moment, refurbishing thousands of missiles which are in reserve and not in, not missiles, warheads, which are on reserve. And presumably the Russians also, not presume, surely the Russians have large reserve stocks, also. So it would not be, you know, if we found somebody was cheating, unless they went to war the next day, it doesn't, you know, it's only a matter of reasonably small amount of time before you can readdress the situation. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Talking about the Russians, the Soviets more or less,\r\n\r\n- Well, I, that was partly my, I fell all over,\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry, that's what, I'm just saying,\r\n\r\n- Well, you should be.\r\n\r\n- But, since 1990 - 1991, that hasn't been the case. It's been just Russia or former Soviet Republic. How much control do the Russians have of warheads that are, not warheads but weapons delivery systems that are not,\r\n\r\n- Oh, that's one of the big accomplishments of the immediate, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, that all the other the republics shipped them in. They're all in Russia. There are none in the Ukraine or Kazakhstan. That was a big accomplishment of, also during the Bush Administration. Yes.\r\n\r\n- You made no mention of British and the French and they modernized their forces,\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- big time. And in fact, the Trident II's, that you mentioned, we sold them\r\n\r\n- to the British,\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Not the French.\r\n\r\n- Not to the French. Developed the missiles. So what, I mean, that makes us seem even more hypocritical in terms of nonproliferation.\r\n\r\n- Well, nonproliferation is altogether, doesn't stand up to scrutiny in many dimensions. What's also true is that, I think, that both of the French and the British keep their submarines in, you know, Cold War alert posture. So they are part of the problem, a small part of the problem, you know? Yeah, please. The nuclear nonproliferation military, that is to say, vertical dimension in the horizontal position.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Now, in the post Cold War era, is vertical propulsion no longer a serious problem as horizontal?\r\n\r\n- You should maybe define them. I'm trying to remember, I know the two terms.\r\n\r\n- In terms of warheads being constantly,\r\n\r\n- Improved.\r\n\r\n- Improved.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- In vertical position. Whereas horizontal position, like, India and Pakistan have it, do you,\r\n\r\n- No, I think that the, thank you for, the Test Ban Treaty is, I think it's now difficult maybe not impossible, but difficult to prevent the proliferation of fission weapons. Fission weapons, know how for fission weapons is, is fairly, probably quite widespread. Secondly, fission weapons are the kind of weapons that were used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, for those of you that are not from nuclear weapons. So there are, by the, in this business, small weapons. You know, they only destroyed Hiroshima. But, thermonuclear weapons are much more difficult. And it is generally believed in scientific technical circles, that you cannot deploy an untested thermonuclear weapon. Or at least the scientists may want to do it, but the military will not. They will never go along with that. They won't believe it.\r\n\r\n- So?\r\n\r\n- So, the Test Ban Treaty is important for, if we could put it into force and get adherence to it, could certainly stop vertical proliferation in the sense of having say India and Pakistan, develop thermonuclear weapons. Of course, as you probably know, they claim they already tested thermonuclear weapons, two years ago, but a lot of people don't believe that. Or if they did, it didn't work.\r\n\r\n- One more question, if I may?\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- The so-called Global Proliferation Policy that the Clinton Administration, as it inaugurated, it is today, not so much on nuclear weapons but weapons of mass destruction. Like a biological,\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- and chemical weapons in store and therefore no lecture on the nuclear issue. Would that also apply to other types of weapons, as well?\r\n\r\n- No, no, I think, I personally think, and I'm not the only one, that a mistake, it's been not wise to lump all these weapons into one category. There is really a very big, first of all chemical weapons are not in the same league, anyway. Biological weapons are very difficult to use. Very dangerous in a certain sense but not in necessarily, in a military sense. And we have somehow devalued nuclear weapons and made them seem less important by lumping all these three things into one. So I purposely focused on nuclear weapons, in part because I don't know that much about biological weapons. But, well you know, they're much more difficult to use as a military weapon as compared to a terror weapon. You know, it depends on how the wind is blowing and whether it's raining and all sorts of other things that you don't control very well.\r\n\r\n- The question has to do with the dangers regarding the level of discipline within the Russian Army right now.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- There are stories about troop,\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- morale, wrestlers don't get paid and so on. Is this a matter of concern?\r\n\r\n- Oh, definitely. Oh, certainly it's a matter of concern. Great concern. We don't, I don't know whether, I just do not know whether they've gone to great lengths to make sure that the Strategic Command System is properly paid and so on, as compared to other forces. But probably they have not done a very good job in that they're under enormous stress and it, the Strategic Mission is a very stressful one because you have to spend, basically your whole life, doing nothing in this circumstance. And that's extremely stressful and the training is very rigorous. And so, there have been some strange things reported about. I think there were some strange events reported on a nuclear submarine, about somebody going crazy and shooting people and you know whether that was connected with not being paid or something that could have happened anyway. But certainly that's another great word.\r\n\r\n- I think we have time for one more question. Please?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Well, hopefully the Russians had a, you know, really good radar and satellite imaging\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Submarines and their range. So what can we do about an increase of our weapons.\r\n\r\n- Well, I said we should I think, we should not be patrolling submarines within such short range of their targets. Well, there are, things have been talked about for a long time, which were then said that they're not politically realistic and so forth. Well, we could do several things. First of all, we could patrol, well we already patrol fewer submarines today than we did during the Cold War. We could,\r\n\r\n- No, no, one, it takes one to do enormous damage to the command system, but it takes much more than one to destroy their capability to retaliate. No, that you can't do with one or two. That takes quite a large force. So what you can do, what used to be talked about and I think it's quite feasible, is that, submarine, this is an example of the sort of things that people have thought about. Each submarine has a code and, which say the Russians know, I mean, just a number, it's coded, they don't know where it is, but they can demand that within the next 30 minutes, submarine one-four-eight-three surfaces for 10 minutes, and then submerges again. And their satellite sees where it is. And so, on the, they can't do this every 10 minutes but they can do this on some, at some level where it doesn't make the whole force vulnerable but gives them a statistical way of checking that we are not where we're not supposed to be. That gives you like, you know, so, you know, there are things that can be done and there are more intrusive things that can be done also. But that sounds, that's the simplest thing I've heard. 'Course they have to have decent, at the moment that wouldn't work. They wouldn't have satellites that would tell them come on up.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, let's,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42744/file/115252#t=0.0,1447.176"}]}]}]}