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Yeah I'm not sure. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1054/collection_resources/28282/file/95588#t=1215.68,1218.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1054/collection_resources/28282/file/95588/transcript/17940/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well good luck. 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