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I'd like to welcome you all to this evening's lecture, The 1984 Institute on World Affairs. I have the pleasure of introducing Margaret Randall to you. Miss Randall's a well-known author, poet and photographer who has lived and worked in many portions of Latin America. She lived in Mexico City for eight years where she edited a bilingual quarterly called, The Plumed Horn. She then moved on to Cuba where she lived for two years, worked as an editor at the Cuban Book Institute in Havana, before proceeding to Nicaragua where she worked for four years in the National Ministry of Culture. During these periods of work experiences in these countries, Miss Randall wrote many books, including, \"Carlota: Poems and Prose from Havana,\" \"Christians in the Nicaraguan Revolution,\" \"El Pueblo no Solo Es Testigo,\" \"Sandino's Daughters,\" and \"Women in Cuba: 20 Years Later.\" Margret Randall's work is focused on the roles that women play and how they're perceived in these countries. She's currently working as an Assistant Professor at the University of New Mexico where she teaches courses in Women in the Third World and another course, Surveying Literature from the Area. And, now, I present Margaret Randall.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Before beginning to speak about my topic tonight, which is Women in Cuba and in Nicaragua, I'd just like to say to you, how impressed I am with this whole series. I've had the occasion recently to travel around the United States and Canada a good deal, giving lectures and readings and I have yet to see such an extensive, in-depth program as the program that is taking place here this week, sponsored by the Institute on World Affairs. I just think you're doing a wonderful, wonderful job and especially in these times, when understanding of the peoples of other countries is so important to everything. So, I just wanted to say that because I'm tremendously moved by what I've seen so far since being here this morning, what's happening here and what's going to happen for the rest of the week. It's interesting to compare women in Cuba and in Nicaragua, both because of the similarities and the differences that emerged in both of these processes of social change. The Cuban Revolution, of course, came to power in 1959. This was before the women's movement in the world, the most current chapter in our women's movement had really gotten off the ground. The Nicaraguan Revolution came to power 20 years later, exactly, in 1979, after a span of approximately 20 years of a very strong, growing women's movement with many different faces, not always agreeing with each other but certainly, of great influence in the world. Nicaragua and Cuba also have very different histories, although they are both Latin American countries, both counties of Spanish origin. Cuba, of course, sharing that origin with an African influence and Nicaragua with an indigenous influence. And I think that those two differences also are important. In Cuba, before the revolution of 1959, the island as, I'm not going to go into too much detail about the history of Cuba because I'm sure most of the people interested enough to come to a lecture like this are fairly aware of it. But I will just mention a few things. The Cubans had 9% of the female population in the labor force. Great numbers of women were working in areas such as domestic service, prostitution. In many ways, Havana was one large brothel for United States business magnates and marines, and so forth. So, there was a great deal of corruption which affected women's lives in particular. There was a great deal of poverty. It was a one-crop economy. Very dependent on the United States, of course. And a country with a fairly active labor movement. Although, not really in the forefront of the struggle and as most of you know, I'm sure, the forefront of vanguard of the Cuban struggle was eventually assumed by the 26th of July Movement, with Fidel Castro at its head. Women participated in that struggle in many ways, in every way. Women participated in the most support-type of activities, to activities of some leadership. Although, those women were basically, quite extraordinary women. I wouldn't say that that was particularly typical of women in the Cuban struggle. There were not masses of women involved in leadership positions as we have later in Nicaragua. In Cuba, they were isolated cases of extraordinary women such as Celia Sanchez, Haydee Santamaria, Melba Hernandez, at the very first action that the 26th of July Movement undertook, in fact, they actually much, gave it its name on the 26th of July, 1953, which was the attack on the second largest military barracks in all of Latin America, Moncada Barracks. There were about 145 men involved in that attack and two women. Later, as the war developed, there were women in leadership positions, essentially political positions, not very many women in military leadership positions. And towards the very end of the war, there was a platoon of women, the Mariana Grajales Platoon, which was composed only of 11 women and it was a fighting platoon. It was a platoon which was supported very much by Fidel Castro. Although, it was opposed by a number of his men and it finally got off the ground and it did go way beyond the victory. The platoon lasted for a number of years and the women were involved basically in peace work, constructions and so forth, after that. But they did take part in the war in that way and that was really the only fighting platoon of women in the Cuban Revolution. Once the war was over with, and the Cubans began to develop their social programs and deal with the situation of a country which had just come out of a war and come out of long years of under development, the Cubans turned their attention to the plight of women in the society. And I'm going to mention two cases, two sectors of women, because I will mention them again a little later on, dealing with Nicaragua, to give you an idea of how these two revolutions, of how these two governments treated these two problems in very different ways. Each according to the possibilities of its own historic, economic, social, and political situation of the moment. These two sectors are sectors very, very oppressed in society, in Latin America, vis-a-vis women. One is the sector of domestic servants, and the other is the sector of prostitutes. The Cubans begun to deal with domestic servants in a very interesting way, almost immediately after the 1959 victory. They took one of their luxury hotels, the Hotel Nacional, which I'm sure, those of you who have been to Cuba, know about. They took one of the floors of that hotel and converted it into a school for domestic servants. The school was operated at night basically, in the evening for a couple of hours every evening. So that the women could remain in the homes where they were working until they had been trained to take on another job. And this school, and a number of other schools similar to it, which were in other parts of the country, basically run into about 1965. Women received crash-courses, first, of course, in reading and writing, in basic math and then in basic skills in different areas. The first thousand women, for example, who begun to work in the new Cuban daycare centers and daycare was a primary concern of Cubans at that time, and it still is. And, so, a great deal of effort was put into, involved in the program of daycare. And the first thousand daycare workers came from the school of domestic servants. The Federation of Cuban Women, which is an organization, a massive organization of Cuban women, which was begun in August of '60, I believe, or about a year after or shortly before a year had passed. This organization paid these women the equivalent of about $5 a week to, no, $5 a month, excuse me, to go to the school. It just barely covered their car fare, back and forth, everyday. And also help them in the sense of certain cases where women were just fighting incredible battles for the right to leave the homes where they were working and, of course, living because I'm sure, most of you know that domestic servants in Latin America live in the homes where they work. They're on call, basically, 24 hours a day and in many instances, they work in real slave situations for very, very little money with no benefits and very long hours. And these are often not situations which are stated in these terms but this is the reality that these women face. And so, often, when these women would not be able to convince the woman of the house or the people for whom they were working that they had the right to attend the school, then the Federation would send somebody to help her argue her case. And this was sort of the role that the Cuban Revolution per say, played in this process. And little by little, these women began to have other skills. They became cab drivers, they became secretaries, they became bank tellers at one point when a large percentage of the rather aristocratisized sector of the working class, which was bank tellers, left the island. Then many of these women stepped into their places and they became, as I said, daycare workers and occupied other posts. So that, by 1965, basically, in Cuba, you had a situation where women, some women, they still had been working as maids, but when didn't need to be working as a maid with no other option. Now, this was possible essentially because the Cuban Revolution declared itself socialist very early on, in April of '61. And also because, economically, at that point in time, there were those jobs available for one reason or another. Had there not been those jobs available, of course, the Cubans would not have been able to do this. And I'll tell you later about how Nicaragua has approached this problem because, of course, in Nicaragua, there have been no jobs and so the situation has not had such a radical solution. In the case of prostitutes, the Cubans also had large sort of rehabilitation plans where they would urge women to come who were working in prostitution. There were basically two kinds of prostitutes in Cuba before 1959. There were the sort of high-class prostitutes, so to speak, for lack of a better word. Many of whom were very closely associated with the US-based mafia and the National Crime Syndicate, who ran the big hotels in Cuba, the George Raft's and the Meyer Lansky's and those sort of people. And when the Revolution came to power in 1959, those women basically left the country with their people. But great masses of prostitutes in Cuba were just women from the countryside who really had no other alternative but to come to Havana or to come to the big centers of population and work in that sort of way to survive or to support their children. And those were the women who were basically benefited by these plans, these rehabilitation plans, which were very experimental. I've spoken to a number, I was not in Cuba at that time but I did get to know eventually, a great, many people who had worked in those plans and they spoke quite candidly about their total lack of experience in terms of working with that kind of a problem and yet, there was a great deal of enthusiasm and a great deal of energy and a great deal of love, basically, that went into trying to create a different situation for these women. These rehabilitation plans had daycare centers, for example, because many of the women were supporting small children. Many of the women had never let their families know, their parents or other members of their families, how they were working to support their children. And so, that was a primary aspect of that, having a place to care for the kids. And then, of course, again, it was a question of, the basic skills and then certain skills that would enable them to get into other areas of productive work. The Cubans were quite rampant, I believe, in changing some of the really elementary and very important aspects of life for women. Education opened up tremendously. So that women were, very, very few years after the People's Victory in Cuba, women were working, were studying in large percentages, in schools like the engineering school, the medical school. Schools that were, the law schools. Schools that were catered for, really, sort of, off limits for women. Women were beginning to break into those professions. The involvement of women in the paid labor force rose quite dramatically. Although, it has also leveled off in Cuba. And I believe that, at this point, it's somewhere around 35%. When I left Cuba five years ago, it was, I think, about 29%. There are still a lot of difficulties in Cuba with women sort of somehow being funneled into job categories that are not as highly paid, or are not AS status as the categories basically occupied by men. But they did raise the percentage of women in the labor force quite fast. And they raised the percentage of women in educational fields previously petty much close to them. The Cubans, I think, felt very strongly that, simply changing the economic status of women, that is giving them a chance at economic independence, was going to solve the problem. Although, there were people in Cuba that differed from that viewpoint, I think that that was basically the predominant viewpoint in the first, say, 10 or 12 years, or maybe even 15 years of the Cuban Revolution. So that a great, many advances were made but there was very little dealing really, if any, effective dealing with an ideological struggle against sexism. That was something that was really sort of placed on the back burner. And in fact, when I first came to Cuba to live in 1969, one was looked upon rather strangely or even suspiciously, if one said, \"Well, there's still discrimination against women in Cuba.\" You just sort of didn't say that, or one was not agreed with if one said that. And undoubtedly tremendous strides, as I say, had been made. But in 1974 something began to happen in Cuba which I think brought home to the Cubans very vividly and very powerfully that, in fact, there was discrimination still against women in Cuba. And that they weren't gonna be able to move the picture very much farther, unless they did begin to deal in an educational way with the residual sexism, which was very strong. What began to happen really started around 1970, with the failure of the Ten Million Ton Harvest. The Cubans wanted to harvest 10 millions tons of sugar in 1970. They put all their efforts into it. It was to be a tremendous leap economically for the country, and the effort was a failure. And it was not only a failure in the sense that, they did not harvest the 10 million tons of sugar, but it was a failure in the sense that, since all their resources, all their efforts, all their energies that year had gone into these tremendous tasks. Everything else in the country really suffered very, very much and it was a sort of, economically, a very big blow. Many of us who lived in Cuba at that time, however, believe that it was one of the healthiest things that could have happened to the Cuban Revolution because it set in motion a whole, sort of, re-assessment of real democratic people's participation in decision making in Cuba. And it made people realize that they had to rethink a lot of that. And that's exactly what they did. In 1973, there was a congress of the Cuban Labor Movement, because, up to that time, it hadn't really been clear what a labor movement would do in a socialist country, what role it would play. And it was a very weak labor movement since the onset of the revolution. They had a congress which effectively tried to give workers a greater say in production and in decisions affecting their lives. And that was followed in 1974, by a pilot program in one of the provinces, in the Province of Matanzas, to elect, through a democratic process, members to a regional and then provincial assembly as a first step towards a national assembly, which would follow in 1975. This was an effort to get people's participation, elected participation, in government, something which had not happened up to that point in Cuba since the revolution, of course, it certainly hadn't happened before. And that year I think was a turning point for women in Cuba. Because, on the 26th of July, in Cuba, it is a tradition for Fidel Castro to speak in one of the provinces. And usually, a province is chosen that has had a special participation that year or some special reason why it would be chosen. And that year, of course, Matanzas was chosen. And what was analyzed by Fidel in that speech, the 26th of July, 1974, among many other things, among a great deal of applause for the fact that the process had gotten of the ground and there were a lot of very positive aspects of it. But I think it was a tremendous shock to Fidel and to the Cuban people that of the candidates for People's Power, only 7% had been women. And of the elected delegates from People's Power, to that provincial assembly in Matanzas, only 3% had been women. And this in a country in which people were saying, there's no more discrimination against women. And so, this was a very heavy thing to analyze and I was living in Cuba at that time, and I remember that, I remember that speech very well. And I remember that Fidel in that speech used the word discrimination. He said, \"Discrimination against women exists still in Cuba and we have to begin a really frontal attack on this and it has to be a struggle in which men and women must participate, but it must be led by women.\" That then initiated a series of studies of projected laws. One of them is the Family Code which, perhaps, some of you have heard of. It's a code which demands that men support their wives in a chance to get an education, in a chance to work. Not only morally, but by shouldering 50% of housework and child care and the four clauses in the Family Code. Clauses, 25, 26, 27 and 28 are read into the marriage, the civil marriage ceremony in Cuba which is quite a moving thing. And clearly, I do not mean to imply from this podium that, this means that overnight, because it's a law, all men in Cuba do this. This is certainly not the case. I think one of the most important things about the Family Code in Cuba, was the education process that went, that developed around the discussion of the project of that law and the passing of that law. Because laws in Cuba are frequently passed by popular discussion in small groups all across the country in the legislative body, which is the assembly, the National Assembly, a project of a law will be introduced. Then it will go to a committee, it will go to work places, to schools, to universities, to army units, whatever. Throughout the country suggestions will be made, tabulated changes, it will come back up again. And that is the process to which the law is made. And so that, in the law like this, it's a very educational process and it's a process through which an ideological struggle against sexism can be waged. So those were some of the things that began to happen in 1974 and I think the situation has really moved forward. There's a great deal more consciousness today in Cuba about the long road ahead of women, as well as the accomplishments that have been, that have taken place. In Nicaragua, the situation has been very, very different. I think, in the first place, because the history of the Nicaraguan Revolution, the history of Nicaragua is quite different. When I was doing some research for a book called, \"Sandino's Daughters,\" I tried to go way, way back in thinking about what's happened in Nicaragua. Why have so many women taken such a radical, strong participation in the revolutionary struggle, as they have in Nicaragua and they certainly have. And I went way back to pre-Columbian times and I found some very interesting references to the isthmus of Tuanda Pact in Mexico and to what is now Nicaragua, as the only parts of Latin America where women had a very strong involvement in commerce before the Spanish conquest. I'm not sure that I even understand that. That I can explain to you, why I think that has something to do with the strength that women have today in Nicaragua, but I do believe there is a link there. The way dependent capitalism has developed in Nicaragua, the unemployment rate has been so high among men, as well, that men are frequently fired from jobs or find themselves without jobs. In Nicaragua, there is a very high degree of what the Nicaraguans call, paternal irresponsibility. That is, men who are fired from a job, get very depressed, begin to drink, maybe abandon the woman they're living with or their wife with a number of children, move on, begin to live with another woman, have more children and so forth. And leave a sort of trail of women who are then forced to do something so that their children will not starve to death. And this has also contributed to a country of women who are very used to working very hard outside the home. There is a kind of independence there that is certainly not a privileged status within the work force. I mean, they don't have the status jobs, they don't have the well-paying jobs. They may be supporting their children, selling a few trinkets in the street, washing and ironing for somebody, working as a maid, working as a prostitute. But they are not gonna let those children die and they're gonna go out of the house to do it and that again, I think, is contributed to a very strong woman. 60% of the families in the capital of Nicaragua, in Managua, even today, are economically sustained by women. Also, I believe that it is not foreign to the situation of women in Nicaragua that in the 20 years in which the current stage or the most recent stage of the Nicaraguan struggle has developed, the International Women's Movement has also come into the forefront in many different ways. Certainly, in ways which often seem to contradict one another but they have had an impact and they've had an impact as well in a country like Nicaragua. Many of the women I interviewed for my book described how they had joined the FSLN early on, in the early '60s and the mid-60s, basically because their boyfriend was a member or their brother was a member and their position within the organization was a position of support work, maybe keeping a safe house. Maybe driving a car, maybe king coffee or whatever. And little by little, under the influence of their own history and their own culture, as well as outside influences, things that they were reading from the Women's Movement in other parts of the world, aided them in struggling within their organization for a more equal place and the ability to carry out tasks that were closer to what the men were doing. And certainly, hundreds and thousands of women in Nicaragua did that. Towards the end of the war, you have various things. You have the case of, for example, Dora Maria Tellez, who was the commander-in-chief of the Sadanista Forces that occupied and liberated Leon. The second largest city in the country. Her command was composed of five women and two men. She was the commanding officer. She is today, the head of the FSLN, in the capital city, in Managua. You have women like Nora Astorga, who I'm sure you've heard of, in one way or another in the press, in this country, who's under the Secretary of State. You have Lea Guido, who's the Minister of Health in a country that, with the health problems were, perhaps, difficult to believe for most people in this country. The infant mortality rate in Nicaragua was one of the highest in all of Latin America. The statistics are very hazy on these kinds of things because you have UN statistics, you have statistics. But very often, you have countries like Brazil, Haiti, Uruguay, not Uruguay, Nicaragua, vying for first place in terms of how bad things are and yet certainly, although we may not be sure of the exact percentages, we know they were very bad. So, you have these women making policy, you have them in very high military, as well as political decision making posts, and you had lots of them. It was no longer the exceptional woman that you have in Cuba, but it was many, many women. And I'd like to briefly refer to the Nicaraguan solution to the two problems that I mentioned in Cuba of prostitution and domestic service. Nicaragua, of course, is not a socialist country, in spite of the fact that it's very often portrayed as such in the press here. Nicaragua is a country with a mixed economy, with political pluralism, with a great input from socialist thought, from Marxism thought. Also, with a great input from Christian thought, with a number of priests who're in cabinet positions. And it's a country with a very different kind of culture, a very different kind of history as they say. But it's also a country facing a very different kind of economic situation. It is very, very difficult at this moment, with the pressures that are being put on Nicaragua, for Nicaragua to solve its problem of unemployment. They have managed to bring the unemployment rate down but it's still a very high rate of unemployment. So, these sectors that opened up in Cuba just after the revolution, have not opened up in Nicaragua. You don't have, you know, the opportunity for 1,000 women to work in daycare. You have daycare centers being built and staffed, but just barely. You don't have the possibility for women to go into the banks and work as tellers. You don't have jobs, in short, for these women. And so, in the case of domestic service, what the Nicaraguans have tried to do, has been to encourage the women themselves to form a very strong union of domestic servants. There is no alternative for these women at this point in time, but for them to continue to work in domestic service. But the new government has felt that it could support women in at least bettering their situation within those jobs. So, a union has been formed and it's being strongly supported by AMLAE, which is the women's organization, the mass women's organization in Nicaragua. It's strongly supported by the Sandinista Union, trade union movement. And, basically, what it has urged the women to do is to fight for new legislation. And that legislation has been fought for, it has been won and now it's a problem of getting the women to go to court with these cases. And many of them have and of course they've won the cases and those have been publicized so that there is encouragement for other women to fight for better pay, for a minimum wage, for a 10 hour a day, which seems like a very small thing to fight for in this country but for maids in Nicaragua, it was a large thing which was won. Health benefits, fringe benefits, vacation time. The union has also been instrumental in setting up workshops where women could learn reading and writing skills, math. And some other skills so that, not designed to take them out of domestic service right now because there's no place, as I say, for them to go. But which would allow them to, in the future, presumably when there are jobs, go into other forms of employment. As it regards to the prostitutes, there are, today, I believe, four pilot projects. One in the port city of Corinto, one in Leon, one in Esteli, and one in Managua. Where small, relatively small numbers of prostitutes have been able to form sewing cooperatives. And the government, in one way or another, has been able to help them by getting funding for sewing machines, by opening up a small shop where the women can then sell the products of these sewing shops. And some women have been able to leave prostitution and make a living this way. Not very many, unfortunately. Because, as I say again, they're faced with the problem of not very many jobs. And, as things continue the way they are, of course, in Nicaragua, with the tremendous situation of aggression, the enormous amount of resources which have human, as well as economic, which have to go into defense, the pressures from outside, the diplomatic pressures, the economic pressures. The fact that Nicaragua can literally not get a loan from the International Monetary Fund or the World Development Bank, et cetera. And hasn't been able to for a long time, it makes it very difficult for these kinds of projects to really expand in the way the Nicaraguans would like to expand them. I was always quite amazed that, in fact, they were able to do as much as they have been able to do with the pressures that they must endure. I don't want to go on to long, just sort of, I'm giving this very overall, in summary, appraisal of women in Nicaragua and in Cuba because I think that there is a limited amount that one can do in an hour or 45 minutes and I think it would be much more productive, if we turn this into a dialogue. I'm sure there are people who have questions and by addressing those questions, whatever I can address, you know, which I would be very happy to do. Maybe we can get to the roots of some of the concerns that you have, which would be interesting to me. So I think with that, I'll stop talking, at least, in an expositional way and just start listening to you and trying to respond. Are there questions?\r\n\r\n- What is the situation with family planning or are they living in , first state of large families that there's no way they are , and so forth?\r\n\r\n- That's a very good question and I'm glad you asked it because it again, gives the opportunity to do a sort of comparison there. In Cuba, the situation, relatively fast after the revolution, was really dealt with in that sense. Abortion was made legal. It is still legal and it's a matter of personal choice. All the usual kinds of birth control methods are available and freely dispensed, as well as educational materials about them and of course, women are not encouraged to use abortion as a birth control method but, it is treated just as another medical problem in Cuba. There wasn't much trouble passing that either in Cuba. And I think part of it was because, Cuba was not really a Catholic country in the sense that Nicaragua is. And I don't mean to imply that there are not a great, many Catholics in Cuba. But Cuba is a country with a tremendous input of African religions. It's a country where Catholicism was basically entrenched in the middle classes and upper classes. A great many of those people left, of course. The church remains there. It was not on very good terms with the revolution that has become, from both sides, in better terms in recent years. But somehow, that was all sort of handled in a very, what appears at least, in retrospect, to have been a fairly smooth way. I was not there when that was handled and I imagine they had they problems but that situation is quite well handled in Cuba. Nicaragua is a whole other problem. Nicaragua, of course, is a deeply Catholic country. And it's a country where the Catholic church is very divided. There is what is commonly called, the People's Church, which is, that term is not very much liked by the people in the People's Church but, it is, you know, basically the base communities, the Christians who were with the revolution who in fact, made the revolution. It is not a country where Christians are with the revolution. It's a country where in fact, they made the revolution. They made it as much as anybody else. And it's a country where that whole situation is quite wonderful and quite, the whole sort of way non-Christian revolutioners and Christian revolutioners have been able to break down the traditional barriers between them and work together. But the hierarchy of the Catholic church, for the most part, is increasingly opposed to the Sandinistan process. So, there's a lot of pressure there and there would be a great deal of opposition at this point in time to the introduction of the legalization of abortion. It is something which is on the agenda. It is something which is very much the concern of the Minister of Public Health, of people working in public health. And I was talking to the Minister of Public Health just before I came up from Nicaragua and she specifically talked about how concerned she was with the large numbers, growing numbers of women who were being introduced into hospitals with illegal abortions, botched abortions in very bad situations often dying, and so forth. Birth control is freely available in Nicaragua. There's no problem with birth control. There was no effort on the part of the Nicaraguan or Cuban governments to encourage either large families or limited families. In both countries, that is considered a personal decision of the woman and man involved. So, that's not a problem. But abortion is very much a problem in Nicaragua. It is illegal. Illegal abortions are available by doctors. Of course, they are available for people who can pay for them, which is usually the case when that kind of thing is still that way. So, it's a problem that really needs addressing in the near future and it's gonna be very difficult to address it because it's going to bring a lot of wrath from the more conservative sectors of the Catholic Church at a time when the country can, doesn't need wrath from anybody. So, that is a problem which is certainly unsolved in Nicaragua.\r\n\r\n- What is the incidence of physical and sexual abuse of women and children in Cuba and Nicaragua?\r\n\r\n- The question is, what is the incidence of physical and sexual abuse of women in both Cuba and Nicaragua. I should be able to answer. Well, I'm not sure that I should be able to answer that. I would like to be able to answer that but I'm not sure that statistics really exist. I know they don't exist in Nicaragua. Very few statistics exist in Nicaragua. I lived in Nicaragua during a period when the Nicaraguans planned, laboriously, to do a census, just a census of their country. Not a census of sexual abuse, a census of people. And had to cut off the project because there was just no money, there were no resources with the increase in the war to carry out such a project which is absolutely essential to a lot of different kinds of planning. In Cuba, of course, that's not the case. And I assume that those statistics do exist in Cuba, but I can't give them to you, I apologize, but I don't have them. In my years of living in Cuba and I lived in Cuba for 11 years, I saw very, very few examples of that kind of abuse. That doesn't mean it wasn't happening. I was looking for it and I was finding and hearing about it very little. Rape was very severely punished in Cuba when I was there and I assume that it's still very severely punished, extremely severely punished. As severely punished as murder. I mean, I was in Cuba when I, I was conscious of the fact that, a number of people were put to death for the crime of rape. And there is a death penalty, of course, in Cuba. In Nicaragua, there is no death penalty. One of the first acts that the Revolution instituted after the victory in Nicaragua was the abolishment of the death penalty. And in Nicaragua, the longest sentence is 30 years. So, I really, I haven't answered your question. I've gotten a little off track. But I would say there's probably less than here. It's a country that, those are both countries that produce certain kinds of tensions in the people who live in them. There's a lot of tension and stress involved in social change, especially under very difficult conditions and protracted conditions of shortages and of very hard work and of a lot of sacrifice. But they seem to be a different kind of tension in producing a different kind of social problem. For example, in Cuba, it was very common to see people . People who were just burned out by, exhausted by overwork, in Nicaragua as well. But that that frustration or that exhaustion would convert itself into physical abuse or sexual abuse, I think, I would warrant a guess, much less than in this country but I have no statistics to back that up.\r\n\r\n- Coming back to something you said a few minutes ago, why other than this , you said it's cabinet hierarchy close to ?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think there is a, I think there's a class struggle going on in the church internationally. I mean, Vatican II has opened up, Vatican II was a movement begun by Paul, by John the 23rd in 1961 to '65, roughly. Which opened up a whole kind of new era in the Catholic Church. An era in which the church basically, began to see itself, I believe, as part of history, as opposed to being outside of history. And in Latin America, this new vision was implemented very much by the union in Columbia in 1968 and in Puebla, Mexico in 1979. And it has resulted in what revolutionary or progressive Christians term, a preferential option for the poor. As opposed to the vision of the more conservative wing of the church which has certainly empowered this moment in the Vatican and in many other parts of the world, and would be the point of view of most of the bishops, I think, in Nicaragua that there's no preferential option for the poor. Everybody is the same in the eyes of God. So, it's a different way of seeing the implementation of one's Christian faith. The ideology that has come out of Vatican II, liberation theology and this whole movement which has really radicalized great sectors of Christians around the world, and very much in Latin America, have so many points of contacts, spiritual and social contact, with Marxist revolutioners, with socialists revolutioners, who are not necessary coming out of a Christian perspective but had taken other roads too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120206#t=0.0,2802.672"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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Nicaragua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1826.81,1829.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in that sense I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1829.62,1831.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"each process of change is somehow going to be able","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1831.34,1834.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to have the experience of other processes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1838.4,1841.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that went before it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1841.64,1842.753"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did somebody have your hand up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=1844.62,1846.483"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207/transcript/31298/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pat, did you have your hand 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So it's a battle that's being waged at least in discussion terms around the world. In a place like Nicaragua where a revolution took place, where a flesh and blood revolution took place. The context of the struggle takes on other attributes. It becomes a much more, perhaps much more polarized, much more polarized situation. And that is clearly what's happened in Nicaragua. I think that some of the bishops very much fear the takeover of communism in Nicaragua. They fear... I'm not sure that all of these people are coming from dishonest positions. They honestly believe that, they sort that Nicaragua is going to be taken over by Cuba and the Soviet Union, and so forth and so on. If you really look at what's happening in Nicaragua that you could hardly believe that, but that is certainly what some people believe, and I think some people in the church. So you have a very polarized situation there. And I think that it's complicated to really... I think you also have to look at these people as individuals of the whole college of bishops in Nicaragua. There are a couple who are with the process. I would say one maybe, and two more, I sometimes with it and sometimes critical of it, and the rest are largely, against it, and some of them very violently against it.\r\n\r\n- What about the older people that we get .\r\n\r\n- Among older women in Nicaragua, I found a really extraordinary phenomenon. In fact, it was so moving to me that I hardly knew how to express it in my book without seeming to be sort of exaggerating. And I sort of toned it down. And then when I moved to Nicaragua, I realized that in fact, it was just as I had suspected them, perhaps I shouldn't have turned it down so much. Because there's an overwhelming difference between the reaction of older men and older women in support of the revolution movement during the revolution, during the time of struggle, this is evened out a lot more now that the revolution is in power, but during the war years, what you had in Nicaragua was first of all, a revolution of youth, very much a struggle led by extremely young people, extremely young people. I mean, there's a case of a kid in Managua named Luis Alfonso, Velasquez tourist, who was hunted down by Somoza Forces and machine gun to death at the age of nine. And he had been an active member of the FSL and organizing students in the city from the age of seven. He, of course is an exception. The average age was more around 15, 16, 18, 19, but still today in Nicaragua, when you look at the age, the average age of the leadership of the revolution, these are very, very young people. So since these were very young people, women, and men, and predominantly men, because again, you had a society where young men were going to, although the percentage of women was very, very high, still, the men would be in the majority, The repression on these young people was absolutely atrocious. To really understand the nature of the repression in Nicaragua, you have to understand the nature of the Somoza dictatorship. A dictatorship that ruled for 43 years. We're a single family owned, virtually, between 60 and 90% of land, industry, everything. Where the most recent of the long dynasty of dictators, would invite his ministers of state to dinner, and then, go down after dinner with them to the dungeons in his private home and raped the women political prisoners. That was his idea of after dinner entertainment. This was a man who was not only criminal, but insane. And you had a saying in Nicaragua before the victory, which was that, \"It was a crime to be young in this country\". And by that people meant that it was very often the case that a young person left his or her home in the morning, and never returned home. Was shot by a national guardsman simply because he or she was walking the streets and was young. And the very fact of one's age, insinuated that one was somehow involved with the revolutionary movement when often that was not the case or occasionally that was not the case. So in response to this terrible repression against the youth of the country, mothers somehow really came to the support of their sons and daughters, much more than fathers. Now, this may have a very complex roots, and I'm not really willing to wager a very in-depth analysis about it, but it is something that I saw over and over and over again in the people whom I interviewed. I saw many, many cases in different social classes, in different situations. Among different kinds of people where the mother had begun to participate in some way she would hide some arms. She would hide propaganda. She would hide the fighters. She would make large quantities of food and distribute them or get them to the front lines. she would become involved in a whole organization that sprang up in Nicaragua, which was the organization of mothers and sisters. It was called the organization of families of political prisoners. But in fact, the people who made up that organization were largely, largely, maybe 90% women, Older women began to speak out, and that way began to lay themselves on the line, began in support work, but which in many, many cases, became then a direct political involvement on the part of that woman. That is to say she would participate in some kind of support a way for a number of months or a year or so, and then she would begin to want to do more, and would be in some way incorporated into the revolutionary organization. You found that with men, but you found it much, much less. And in fact, I found many cases of older people who separated, men and women because the woman was defending the young people in the family and the man couldn't risk his job or wouldn't risk his job or there were other sort of things coming into play there. Now, it's a risky thing to generalize about, but I did see that. And, I saw a great, great deal of strengthen in the part of all the women. I witnessed something that was extraordinarily moving in June of 1982, which was a match on the Capital city of 800 parents of murdered young people who had been killed at one point or another in the years of struggle, including the most recent people being killed by the kind of revolutionaries. This match, I would say was made up about 95% of mothers. And there were occasional men and what these people, and some of them held up photographs of their sons or daughters who had been killed. And some of them one had the feeling tiny Little ID card photographs were the only thing that they perhaps had left of their children. And what they were demanding in this match was the death penalty, reinstatement of the death penalty against the contrast. And, of course Nicaragua is totally committed to not reinstating the death penalty. And it's a government that has seen so much death that has seen so much bloodshed that it's not going to reinstate the death penalty for anything and so the government Official who was detailed to speak to these women in the center of Managua was Comandante Dora Maria Tellez, the woman who I mentioned earlier, who had taken Lion at the end of the war. And it was a very, very difficult speech for her to give. And it became a dialogue with the women, but think at a certain point, the women really understood that reinstating the death penalty was not going to bring back their children, and was not going to make things any better, although one could certainly understand their rage and their anguish. So, there is a great participation of older women and Nicaragua. I would say a great deal more than of older men in the time of struggle today. It's a much more open, much more sort of evens itself out. Now, those who have left the country, those who are against the kinds of changes that are taking place in Nicaragua are basically upper-class people who feel that they have something to lose, and those who afford are basically people who have everything to gain. And they are not so much along gender lines anymore, but along class lines.\r\n\r\n- In the US media, Cuba is presented as having a revolution that failed about 10% of the people that's the media gives me. So that behind, as someone who lived in Nicaragua for so long, what if you could give us a way from a leftist perspective of understanding why so many people left at that time.\r\n\r\n- Well, I would suggest that this is not from a leftist perspective, but just from a perspective of somebody who lived there and witnessed that. And I imagine that you referring to Mariel to the great 125,000 people who left, in 1980. This was less than 1% of the population. The population of Cubist is 11 million people. I don't know, I'm not very good at math, but it's certainly not 10, 125,000 is certainly nowhere near 10% of 11 million. I think it's something like 1%, right. So the only answer that I would have to, and I think there's probably another 125,000 people who would leave today if somebody... if there was a place for them to go and certainly there is that percentage of discontent in Cuba. I don't think anybody would deny that, and to deny that would be a lie. I don't see that as a very large percentage of the population. I certainly don't see it as an example of a failed revolution. I think that the Cuban revolution, in spite of the fact that it has struggled against absolutely incredible odds for quarter of a century has been a very successful revolution. It could have been a lot more successful if it had been left to do its thing without so much interference. I think that practically any country in the world, you're going to have that many or more people who would like to leave and go someplace else. I don't think that that's really a criteria by which to gauge the failure or the success of social change. You've got to remember that Cuba is a country, 90 miles from the United States. Where radio from Florida is piped in every day and every night where television in fact comes in past midnight, Florida Television Radio. You can hear from Texas from a lot of different parts of the Southern part of the United States. A lot of these transmissions are specifically geared to create discontent among the Cuban people, and not only to create discontent with their system and the problems that they have, which are indeed many. And the solutions which they are giving those problems, which are indeed very Cuban solutions, but in fact, to set as a counterpoint, the United States as a kind of paradise as a place where these problems do not exist, where there is plenty where people can come and go freely, where are you can buy a pair of blue jeans, 15 or 20 different brands and so forth and so on. It is true that there's a great deal of hardship in Cuba. There were shortages in Cuba, you can't find 15 or 20 different kinds of blue jeans. So then there is a tension set up there. Very, very specifically aimed at people to make them see this society as the promised land. Now, among the Cubans who have come here, you have a very interesting kind of situation. You certainly have people very relieved to have left Cuba, people who do not like the system there, people who are very happy to have come to this country, and people who are doing very well here, and many, many people who are not doing very well. And some people in fact, who remain in kinds of detention camps, because they haven't been able to get work. But the most interesting thing that I've heard from the Cuban community, and I'm not very close to that community, but I do have some friends in it, and one of the comments really sort of struck me, which was that even among many people who hate socialism, who are glad to have left, who are glad to have come to this country, who are enjoying the benefits of this kind of a society has to offer, there has been a kind of shock among those very people, because they suddenly realized that they do not have a great many things, which in Cuba they took for granted because they were born into a socialist system in spite of the fact that they hated it. For example, free medical care, free education. And here are these people who suddenly say, \"But wait a minute, we have the blue jeans, but when I'm sick, what happens?\" and people who realize that, in spite of the fact that they have gained a kind of freedom, 'cause there certainly is a bush walk freedom here, which does not exist in Cuba. they have wants to great many things, which they never thought of as being socialist. They thought of as being their natural birthright, because that was what they were born into. It's quite amazing I have four kids, and I used to be constantly amazed in Cuba, listening to the conversations of my kids' friends at their different stages of education, the foods that they took for granted in a country which indeed had many, many hardships. I mean, there were ratios, they were great many shortages of what we would consider not only luxury items, but many items which we would consider in this country necessities And yet the basic needs of life, health, education, recreation, a rent, which is 10% of your salary and can be no more a month vacation a year, free cultural and sports activities. The kind of basic spiritual and physical needs that human beings have were covered and we're constantly being increased. And so you did not have luxury, you did not have a lot of the other things, and you're gonna have a long struggle there before those things are really available in the way that they're available to the middle classes in this country. And yet those are things that were just taken for granted by those kids and those other kids who didn't fight the revolution, they have really no sense of how it was before. And so, they think, well, that's the way life is. So I would suggest that, I've gotten a little off the track answering your question and I'm sorry, but I would suggest that those people who left, were very anxious to leave that there would be more people who would be anxious to leave, but that does not necessarily follow through to an analysis which would say that is a failed revolution. Very much it doesn't, I would say\r\n\r\n- I would like you to comment on whether or not the occupational differentiation by sex if so, what other obligations where you are likely to find female rather male, and the vice versa. The second is the child care facility working\r\n\r\n- I'm not too clear on the beginning of your question, you wanna know what areas of the workforce are occupied by men, preferentially and by women? Yeah. Okay. In the case of Cuba, them has sort of varied. There were a number of years in Cuba during the time that I lived there when there 500 job categories, which were off limits to women and off limits to men, and another 500 that were off limits to men. They weren't exactly off limits since perhaps too strong a phrase, they were, women were not encouraged to work in those areas, and men were not encouraged to work in the other areas. And they were not along the lines of salary, as much as the long lines of, for example, jobs that would be considered, dangerous to women's reproductive system or some jobs at which additional for men king cuttings and so forth. It was a kind of an interesting, it was a kind of a difficult as well as interesting situation because they didn't seem to be hard and fast rules. That is why King cutting was off limits to women by the law book. You had women who were expert King cutters and were getting prizes for cutting tremendous amounts of sugar cane and so forth. And when you would question that, you would be told that, well, these women wanted to do that, which in fact was true, but no woman would be forced to do that. They saw this as protective legislation. It was a great deal of discussion about that in Cuba, in the specific years that I lived in Cuba, because they were fractions who thought that was terrible, and that they should be no job category which are off limits to men or women. And they weren't other people who defended that. And so within the government itself, that was a kind of struggle around that. And for awhile that was eliminated. And then a much more modified version of that was re-established. So, I'm not familiar with the situation of that discussion now, but I assume that it's still sort of an unclosed discussion. There is something else in Cuba, which is that the Cubans have never felt that men belong in daycare for example. If they care workers, that's a field which is clearly limited to women and a lot of discussion has gone down around that. I do not agree with that for example, of course I'm not Cuban. But the Cubans are very convinced that that is the way they wanna do things. A lot of these things have to do with the culture of a country, and how people feel about work. I don't think that that held over into positions of leadership for example or decision-making. That is one of my daughters, for example, is about to graduate in Cuba, in chemical engineering, and, 55% of her class are women. And those are women who are gonna become chemical engineers. And in those fields, which before the revolution were absolutely, not only dominated, but exclusively male, they are now opening up in very large numbers to men the same to women, and the same for doctors for example, where you don't see, where you see more than 50% of the doctors are women, and then not just pediatricians or general practitioners or obstetrics gynecologist, et cetera, but, brain surgeons there, neurologists there, urologists and so forth and so on, psychiatrists. So I think you have a lot of progress but you do have certain areas that are, especially in some of the skills that are not so much the professional areas, but say, in farm work, in mining and so forth, which are pretty much off limits to women. In Nicaragua you don't have that. You have women absolutely working in everything. You have women pilots, you have, but you have a lot of unemployment, and in Cuba you have almost no unemployment. So, they're complicated situations. I would imagine knowing the situation in Nicaragua that as unemployment goes down, you're gonna have a lot more women in those kinds of positions and a lot less problem around that because of the participation of women in the war, in the kinds of tasks that they were carrying out in the war. For example, today in Nicaragua, 30% of the army is still women. And 66% of the militia is female.\r\n\r\n- American's image in our stereo type of the macho\r\n\r\n- Well, there is a lot of machismo Lin, I would say not only in the Latin American countries, but all over the world. And sometimes I felt that the variety that exists in Latin America is almost easier to deal with than the very sophisticated rioty that exists in this country, because at least it's at front there and you consider speak to it and so forth. We have a long way to go in that area, I think a very, very long way to go, but I think that in their own way, Cuba and Nicaragua have made tremendous contributions in that. And in Nicaragua, it's an interesting situation is evolving now in line with your question which or your comment, which is that some of these very strong women who have fought in such exceedingly important positions in the war, today hold very important political positions, are having a great deal of difficulty in their personal lives. That is to say they are women who have moved into areas that there's no turning back from. They're not going to go back to traditional roles. That's not the question any longer, but they're women who have the same needs for companionship, for personal relationships that we all do. And the demands of the war are very, very great on both men and women, certainly not on women alone, and yet it's more traditional that men can meet these demands without it being seen as a sort of unusual situation. That is to say, a war which is requiring that a population spend 12, 14, 16 hours of every day in whatever task that person, man or woman is involved in, somehow that society finds it easier to accept that from men than from women, and women find it easier traditionally, to accept that their men are gonna stay away from the house for 16 hours, then men find it to accept that their wives are going to do that. So, you have a lot of relationships that have split up. You have a lot of loneliness. You have a lot of sort of public examination of this phenomenon and both by both men and women. And I think it's a very open and extremely healthy kind of discussion that's going on in Nicaragua. One of the things that most impressed me was the ability of the Nicaraguans in the middle of their war to face these kinds of problems, to talk about them, to think that they're important and to sort of debate them publicly in a very, very upfront way, very open and an undefensive way, but it remains a tremendous problem. And I would imagine that there's going to be ups and downs and the solution to this problem, and that the solution is going to be very long and painful.\r\n\r\n- Well, homosexuality in Cuba, has been dealt with traditionally very badly. There is a great deal of homophobia in Cuba. There always has been. For periods of the history of the Cuban revolution, real mistakes were made along those lines, and I think that the situation has gotten a lot better. I think that there's much more consciousness, at least, at certain echelons. I mean, I wouldn't say that the Cubans are not homophobic today, but certainly the leadership of the Cuban revolution has done a lot of reassessment of this problem and reassessment of mistakes that have been made. And I think that's been helped a great deal by a team of sexologists that came to Cuba maybe about 10 years ago. I'm not sure the exact year they came from Germany and worked with Cuban sexologists, basically to institute a whole program of sex education in the schools, which was very poor at that time, almost non-existent. A number of books came out of that, one for the public at large, one for teenagers, one for small children, and that was sort of the first public evidence that some we assessment of the ideas around homosexuality was really being done by the Cubans. This book for the general public, which is called , \"Man And Woman In Intimacy\", has a number of chapters. There's a chapter, called sexual deviations or something like that. And then following that chapter, is a chapter called homosexuality. And the first sentence in that chapter is, \"You may wonder why homosexuality is not treated in the proceeding chapter. Well, it's not because it's a normal way of relating between\" et cetera, et cetera. So that at least, for example, in an educational sense, real changes are being made, needless to say, in the Cuban society, I've heard people say, \"Oh, did you see that book, chapter eight he he he I don't mean to imply that this is sort of magically changed the ideas that the ordinary Cuban has around this problem. And I think it's gonna take a long time, but I would say that the Cubans are finally on the right track in that respect. In Nicaragua, there doesn't seem to be the problem, and there's been no addressing of the problem because there's no... the problem hasn't come up. I mean, there were a number of homosexual men and women, and in positions of extreme importance in the government they're respected. It hasn't been a problem so there's no discussion of it, or there hasn't been any discussion of it at least publicly, that I know of. But I would say again, they are, maybe just because of the time that the revolution came to power, that that's gonna be something much more easily dealt with in Nicaragua. You really have to, I think you really have to pay it a lot of attention to the historic moment that both these revolutions came to power. And your question in the back row with... Your comment was really interesting to me because I think very often in this country, even among the left, somehow Nicaragua was often vindicated at the expensive Cuba. It's okay to like Nicaraguan can put that in Cuba, or whatever, I think there's very little sort of effort made to see these as two separate countries, with their specific histories, their specific cultures, their specific problems, both inside and outside the revolution. Not to write off these very difficult processes because the processes themselves have made mistakes, which is gonna happen in any process of change because processes of change are made by people. And people make mistakes, and they're gonna make more mistakes. But I think the fact that the Nicaraguans have had the experience that the Cubans had as well, the experience of their mistakes as well as the experience of their achievements is a very important thing for Nicaragua. And in that sense I think each process of change is somehow going to be able to have the experience of other processes that went before it. Did somebody have your hand up? Pat, did you have your hand up? Well, if there's no more questions then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46835/file/120207#t=0.0,1883.136"}]}]}]}