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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43416/file/116316/transcript/28275/annotation/925","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿- Also, I'd like to welcome, or ask all of you if you'd like to stay around afterwards for some cookies and conversation. And at this point, I'd like to ask you to please join me in welcoming Senator George McGovern.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, thank you very much for the warm welcome, and also for coming out on a balmy April night, Sunday at that. I'm very pleased to see all of you here. I come back to Ames with lots of pleasant memories of previous visits here. In 1972 when I was a candidate for the democratic nomination, the first test came here in Iowa. And while I didn't win, I came in a strong second, which started a lot of speculation that maybe I might go all the way to the nomination, which I eventually did. But I've been back here numerous times since then and have always enjoyed my visits to this university. So it's nice to be back here tonight. I know this is called the Lecture Committee. And I have a 12 page lecture here, but I think I'll leave it in my pocket. And if it's agreeable with you, I'll just talk about some of my views on the current political scene and the direction in which I think we ought to be moving, some of the problems that liberals face, and also conservatives, because I think that both liberalism and conservatism are somewhat in a crisis at the present time. I'm well aware that some of you may be wondering why anyone who lost 49 out of 50 states was invited here to tell you what's going on in American politics, but it may have been done on the perfectly reasonable assumption that sometimes we learn as much in politics, as in life, from our disappointments and our failures as we do from the successes and the more joyful experiences that we have in life. I was in Munich, Germany a year ago at the University of Munich where I was a guest professor in the summer school. And there was a reception given on the first night I was there by the American consult in Munich. And his eight-year-old son attended that function. And he was under the impression that I had been elected president of the United States. When I explained to him the cruel facts of what had actually happened, he first appeared a little crestfallen, and then he said, \"Yeah, but Senator McGovern, remember, you came in second.\" And so I take consolation in that there are only 50 Americans in the 200-year history of this country that ever came in second in a bid for the presidency. So unless you're one of those 50, don't knock it. It's a great privilege to come in second in a race for the presidency of the United States. And I did learn some things from that experience. It's even possible that the country has learned something in the years since '72. In any event, I have no particular yearning to trade places with the big landslide winner in that '72 elections. But tonight I don't want to look back so much as I would like to look at the present and look to the future. We've just come through an election, a national election, in which liberalism was under severe attack from candidate George Bush. And there's no doubt that he made some telling, and I think damaging blows in the course of that campaign. He was allowed, I think mistakenly, to define liberalism all during the summer and fall of the election year without very much rebuttal from the democratic camp. Liberals were defined as people who are sympathetic to Willie Horton. They won't even salute the flag. They support the American Civil Liberties Union, you can't get much more subversive than supporting civil liberties. And in any event, all of this went on with very little a rejoinder on the part of the democratic campaign. As I say, I think that was a great mistake, because we do need to look at the record on a movement as important as liberalism before we set it aside. It's my own view that liberalism, since the days of Thomas Jefferson, roughly the life of the Republic, has been the most constructive and dynamic political tradition in our history. I think it still is. And indeed, I would remind you here tonight that it's very difficult, maybe impossible, to think of any constructive national program that now has the endorsement of both republicans and democrats that did not begin as a liberal initiative over conservative opposition. If there's anyone here who can think of a valuable national program that we all now generally support which began as a conservative initiative over liberal objections, I'd like to know what it is. I can't think of any such. But I do know that, in 1987 when the stock market crashed and President Reagan finally agreed to sit down with members of Congress and compromise on the budget and on the tax program to do something about the deficit that was believed to have contributed to the instability in the stock market, he said, \"Well, I'm willing to go to the conference room and negotiate anything except social security. I'm not gonna compromise on social security. That program remains intact.\" Well, if there's any programs of the last 50 years that's more symbolical and substantively representative of liberalism than social security, I don't know what it was, what it is. It's certainly as important as any other landmark legislation in liberalism. It was opposed by conservatives initially. And as a matter of fact, in his first year in the White House, President Reagan tried to cut it back, only to be defeated by the Senate 98 to nothing. Even Jesse Helms voted against cutbacks in social security. And from that day to this, President Reagan's been an ardent defender of social security. I mentioned that simply because it's one of the more obvious landmark aspects of liberalism, but so is the case with Medicare and with the Rural Electrification Program that has lighted up the prairies across South Dakota and Iowa and the Great Plains all over the country. This was a liberal program bitterly resisted by the private power companies and the conservative interest. Student loans, I was on the program that drafted The first student loan program. We called it the National Defense Education Act. That was the only way we could get it passed, to call it National Defense. Once we put that label on it, it went through with a hoot and a holler. And we were trying to catch the Russians with their Sputnik program. When it was pointed out by a few of our scientists that they were doing better on physics and mathematics than we were, we got the National Defense Education Act. But it was opposed by conservatives and the way was led by liberals. It's true with civil rights. One of the great success stories, obviously, an incomplete story, it still isn't over yet, but one of the great success stories in American history is the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and the 1960s, spearheaded by the late Martin Luther King and others that actually engineered a peaceful revolution in this country. It didn't bring full equality to all the Blacks in America, but it was an enormous step forward. And it was done without a major, violent struggle. Some people were killed in the effort, but, basically, it was a great legislative and judicial and executive victory on behalf of our fellow humans, the Blacks of this country. And it was largely spearheaded by liberals over conservative oppositions. I regret to say, it's one of the reasons why the democrats have lost the South in the years since then. But the South is coming back as more and more Black people participate in the elections in that part of the country and in those Southern states. But the point I'm trying to make here tonight is, whether you're talking about the Civil Rights Movement or the women's movement or the environmental movement, which is so desperately important today, the move to save our environment, or whether you're talking about student loans or even guaranteed bank deposits, I thank God for guaranteed S\u0026L deposits these days, all of these things began as a liberal initiative. So my suggestion here, the next time liberals are under attack by a George Bush-type campaign, he should be asked bluntly which one of these liberal programs he wants to repeal. He doesn't like liberalism. Which one of these programs engineered and pioneered by liberals would he repeal? And if he wants a kinder and gentler America, how's he gonna get there without liberals and without the compassion that represents the liberal movement in this country? Now let me hasten to add that all of what I've said about liberalism is not to imply that I'm against conservatives. I think conservatism plays a vital role in American politics. It helps sharpen the debate. It challenges the role of government in our lives. It challenges the funding of programs, the administration of those programs. It questions about every aspect of government that need to be raised. There's nothing wrong with a country having a good, strong conservative tradition. Conservatives, historically, have believed in a balanced budget. They believe that government should not intervene in our lives any more than is necessary to maintain public order. And those are concerns that are worth hearing. So I have no objection to a strong conservative tradition. And I think the balance that is the the creative tension between liberalism and conservatives is the real genius of American politics. I come out of a rather conservative state, South Dakota. I couldn't have been elected, obviously, without the support of a lot of conservatives in my state. That's not what motivates me to respect them. Well, it doesn't hurt, but it does explain that all of us in politics probably are an outgrowth of the competition between conservatism and liberalism. All of us embrace certain aspects of both traditions. And I don't denigrate conservatives, but neither do I want the liberal tradition denigrated. And I thought that candidate Bush did a great disservice to the understanding of American politics when he painted liberalism as some kind of an alien doctrine. It's not, it's a great success story. It's the great cutting edge of progress in this country. And I think it will remain as such. Now, it's an interesting thing that sometimes people like President Bush, who incidentally happened to be a personal friend of mine, sometimes they'll say some good things about liberals but I've noticed they don't do it until we die. If you listen to the speeches of Ronald Reagan and George Bush and Jack Kemp and other leading conservative spokesmen, you'll hear them speak rather favorably about Franklin Roosevelt or Harry Truman. Barry Goldwater said the other day that Harry Truman was the greatest president of the last 100 years. That's even further than I would go with Harry Truman. You'll hear a favorable comment about John Kennedy. You remember all the times Ronald Reagan referred favorably to John Kennedy? But not when he was alive, and not when Truman was alive or Franklin Roosevelt. That's the trouble with these fearsome McGovern Democrats. They're still alive. And a lot of them are in the Congress and in the state houses, still walking around causing trouble. And so we never get any plaudits from our conservative republican opposition. I was in a debate with Bill Buckley the other day. And he and I are undergoing a series of debates. I think we've had 12 or 13 now, another big one coming up on the 19th of June on public television. And I asked him near the end of one of those debates, if I promised to die before he did, would he say some kind words about the so-called McGovern Democrats. He was noncommittal. But it's interesting too, if you watch what's going on in the political dialogue, these conservative or republican spokesman seldom had anything kind to say about their own fallen heroes, their own deceased heroes. Almost never will you hear President Bush talk about the greatness of Gerry Ford or the inspired leadership of Richard Nixon or Warren G. Harding. Once in a while, they'll go clear back to Lincoln and give some indication that maybe Lincoln had some worthwhile quality. But you have to go back about 100 years before they find anybody they're really comfortable with on their side to quote. They'd rather quote John Kennedy or Truman or Roosevelt, who are now safely dead, but who they now seem to feel had rather respectable and laudatory records. Well, some of these are tongue in cheek comments, obviously, but I come here tonight to defend the liberal tradition and to tell you that I think, in the years ahead, we liberals have an important role to play. I know that there are members of my party, and I recognize we have both parties represented here tonight, probably a good many independents as well, who are counseling, that is prominent members of the democratic party, that we should move to the right or move to the center, that we've lost five out of the last six presidential elections, and that only way we're gonna get back in the White House is to move in the direction of Reagan or Bush, or sometimes described as the center. It's my own view that if the democratic party takes that road, we not only will lose even more heavily in 1992 than we did in 1988, but we will deserve to lose. As I said earlier, we need a powerful, respectable conservative party in this country. We need a good republican party, but we don't need two of them. What we do need is a frank recognition that President Bush, while I think historical circumstances will impel him in a more liberal direction than he's ever gone before before he gets through, that nonetheless, he represents the conservative movement, just as President Reagan did. The republican party is essentially a conservative party. There's nothing wrong with that. And we democrats have a vital role to play as an honest-to-goodness liberal party. I'm old fashioned enough to believe that republicans should be conservatives and democrats should be liberals. And it makes me uncomfortable when conservatives betray their historic standards. I don't understand conservatives who are not alarmed about the fact that, during the Reagan years, we almost tripled the national debt. Is that conservatism to cut taxes and increase military spending and dump the whole resulting deficit on future generations? I don't think that's the way authentic conservatives operate. I think, traditionally, they believed in a pay-as-you-go approach. If you're going to go into a military spending splurge, you don't cut taxes, you increased taxes. Either that or you do what President Eisenhower did in eight years, you don't allow any increases in military spending. I don't think it's conservative to violate the Constitution and break the law, as was done by president Reagan and George Bush and Bill Casey, and apparently Oliver North and others during this silly Irangate and Contra scandal of several years ago. All of those things represented betrayal of the conservative impulse and conservative values. But we democrats and we liberals have also been somewhat derelict in holding fast to liberal principles. And that's why it disturbs me when I read in the press these days, prominent democrats, some of them long time friends of mine, arguing that the democrats have to be tougher on national defense, that we've gotta support some of these weapons systems we've been questioning, that we have to come across with a harder line on foreign policy. I think all of that flies in the face of the historic realities and challenges that now face us. Here you have the Soviet Union, the other super power, as we like to call ourselves and call them, for the first time since World War II really making bold initiatives on behalf of cutting down the arms race on a mutual basis, talking about cuts of up to 50% in strategic nuclear weapons, unilateral reductions in their tank and conventional forces in Central and Eastern Europe, discussions about mutual further reductions in conventional weapons, with a willingness on their part to make deeper cuts because of their superior numbers of conventional forces. Why would it serve the interest of the American public and the American taxpayer in the face of those opportunities for the liberal party in this country, the democrats, to now come down on the side of bigger defense outlays for the United States? It isn't a contribution to our defense. It actually weakens the real defense of the country. And we need to begin recognizing that the defense and security of this country depends more on the health of our economy and the quality of our education and the dependability of our environment and our physical infrastructure than it does on adding more and more to a surplus overkill capacity that we already have. I would argue here tonight that while it might've been politically popular at the time, this recent Reagan military buildup of the last eight years was entirely unjustified. It was based on the fallacy that the Soviet Union was ahead of us in strategic nuclear weapons and other fundamental sources of military power, and that we had to catch up before it was safe to negotiate arms reductions. A complete misreading of the situation. The Soviets have never been ahead of us in strategic nuclear power. They have some margin of superiority in absolute numbers of troops on the ground and tanks on the ground, but they also have a billion Chinese at their back and the NATO Alliance on the other side. We're surrounded by two oceans with Canada on the north with the mounted police and Mexico on the south that probably isn't capable of taking on the Louisiana National Guard. But the notion that, somehow, we're a beleaguered country overwhelmed by Soviet military power is a shear myth, and I think the quicker we lay that to rest and recognize that the real threats to American security are not military, they haven't been military at any time in the last 20 or 25 years, that the real threats to the well-being of this country is the fact that we've got a $200 billion drug traffic that's destroying the health and security of millions of people. We've got a declining educational quality in many of our communities. We have too many people idle. We have too many people poorly trained. We have an environment that's being steadily polluted with serious jeopardy to our children and our grandchildren and generations to come. We have a crumbling physical infrastructure. We have an agriculture that's still shaky and not on a fully firm basis. These are the things that have to do with the security and defense of America. We need a new definition of national defense. When I first came into public life, what we now call the Defense Department was called the War Department. And some public relations genius conceived the idea of changing the name to the Defense Department. How can you be against defense? Anything with a defense label, and as a consequence, every silly boondoggle that anybody could dream up at the Pentagon sooner or later gets a constituency for it that starts to lobby for it. And pretty soon, if you don't go along with these silly proposals, you're branded as soft on national defense. The truth is that we need some people that are courageous enough and hard-headed enough and realistic enough and with enough common sense to stand up to this mushrooming arms race and say that enough is enough and begin careful planning to utilize some of these monies now being misallocated to what's called defense to purposes that will really strengthen America, and I would argue, increase our influence and our respect around the world. I think that Gorbachev understands some of these things. I'm not under any illusions that he's fallen in love with the United States, but I think he's a tough-minded, realistic man who understands that the new sources of power in the world are economic, rather than military, that it's a no-win deal for the Soviets to be in an open-ended arms race with the United States. They can't win an open-ended arms race with a country that's so much more prosperous than they, and they can't do the kinds of things they need to do for their own people if they're going to be wasting a major part of their resources on this self-defeating arms race. I think they learned in Afghanistan as we did in Vietnam that military adventurism into the third world is not a paying proposition. It doesn't work. It's ineffective. It's not one of the ways to win influence and power in this third world where most of the residents of the planet reside. So there are new realities that are being recognized in the Soviet Union. I give former President Reagan whatever credit is due in recognizing in Gorbachev a change in direction and entering into at least one significant arms control program with him that eliminated a whole category of nuclear weapons, the intermediate range weapons in Western Europe and on the Soviet part in Eastern Europe. So that's a step forward, but even a conservative leader like Margaret Thatcher has said, Gorbachev is the kind of man the West can do business with. And I think that's true. And I think it's in our interest to encourage him by responding to the kind of initiatives he's offered. I'm getting very impatient with the Bush Administration's constant statement that they're evaluating these programs and undertaking a study, and at some point maybe we'll have some initiatives of our own. I recognize that it's early in the Bush Administration, but President Bush is not new on the scene. He's been in national politics most of his life. He sat in the vice presidency for eight years. Surely there must've been some spare moments there when he had a chance to think about the direction in which he'd like to see this country move. But the time has come for liberals to move with all the influence they have to press this country in the direction, not of a greater commitment to militarism and a harder line on foreign policy, just the opposite. The time has come for us to begin defining new perspectives on American security, taking care of our society, recognizing the real needs of the third world and of our friends around the globe, and working in that direction. That is really the way to the kinder and gentler America that President Bush has spoken of. Let me just give you one statistic to illustrate what I'm talking about. I noticed in the budget the other day in going through it that we allocate $300 million to the entire third world for the purposes of the environment, environmental programs, which, sooner or later, affect all of us, for energy, and for family planning and population programs, $300 million. You may think that's a lot of money to give to the third world until you put it up with the figure that appears nearby on the budget, which indicates we're giving them $5 billion a year in armaments and military equipment. Why? Why do we give these poor, developing countries $5 billion in armaments? I suspect it's to get rid of the surplus junk that we don't know what to do with in our own military system. We've got so much of it, it's better to give it away. And so we unload $5 billion of lethal weapons on an unstable, but emerging part of the world, and leave them with their environmental contamination, their exploding populations, their absence of alternative energy sources. And what I would suggest here tonight is that we just reversed those two priorities, 300 million for, $300 million on the assumption that there might be some constructive uses for a limited number of arms in some countries that are under pressure, and 5 billion for global environmental programs, energy development, population and family planning. And this is the direction in which I think the liberal movement ought to move. I conclude on this note, we're in the third year of a three-year bicentennial observance of the American constitution. I'm an old American history teacher in the days before I went into politics, and I've been doing more and more of that since I left the Senate some eight years ago. I have now lectured on 1,000 different campuses across this country. And I've been studying the Constitution for several years and I've come to the conclusion that it's the most important single item in explaining whatever success we've had as a political democracy. It may seem old fashioned and even somewhat trite to say that we need to recommit ourselves to a constitutional democracy, but we really do. If you look at what has happened to our system in the years since World War II alone, just take this period since 1945, we've had steady encroachments on the Constitution from democrats and republicans alike in the White House, and a dereliction of duty on the part of the Congress in monitoring these violations on the part of what we've come to call imperial presidents, covert activities, shabby, miserable activities, assassinating foreign leaders, rigging elections, carrying on secret paramilitary operations that the Congress has not authorized and knows nothing about, the kind of shabby operations that went on in Watergate and Irangate and in Vietnam, I regret to say, many of these things, blatant violations of the Constitution of the United States. Now we read in the Oliver North trial as his defense attorneys had forced the government to release a 42-page document showing the role of the president and the CIA director and the vice-president in these illegal operations. And not withstanding Mr. Bush's claim that he was out of the loop during the Iran-Contra shenanigans, it now is demonstrated that he played a key role, was at one point sent as a special emissary by President Reagan to the president of Honduras and offered him what can only be described as a bribe in the form of American foreign aid and military shipments in return for Honduras, the Honduran government, helping the Contras, which the Congress had said was illegal for the administration to do any longer. And so they did an end run through the National Security Council, through Colonel North, through private suppliers and ventures to bypass the intent of Congress and supply aid through third countries at the expense of the American taxpayer with no accountability to the taxpayer, all the time lying to the Congress and contending that they weren't engaged in this kind of activity. This is what I'm talking about when I say there's a need for a new commitment to constitutional government in this country. If I could make any one word of advice to both conservatives and liberals in the White House it would be to heed the Constitution. George Washington said, a few days after the Constitutional Convention adjourned back in 1787, in a letter to his nephew that he did not think that those who were at that convention were any wiser or better intentioned than those who will come after us. And he left the door open for future generations, our own included, to make those changes in the Constitution that were necessary as conditions change, and his insights, they improve. But he paid us a great tribute in saying that he thought we were as wise and as dedicated to the well-being of this country as it was James Madison and Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton and himself and these other 55 people in Philadelphia. If we're going to live up to that faith that Washington expressed in us, we have to do better in insisting on adherence to the Constitution by our elected meters. The only pledge we asked them to make is to uphold the Constitution. I don't think anybody really expects a president, once he's elected, to carry out every last plank in his platform. We probably don't want them to carry out every plank in their platform. But we do have a right to expect that when they hold up that right hand and put the left hand on the Bible and look the chief justice of the Supreme Court in the eye and swear that they're gonna uphold the Constitution of the United States that they will keep that oath, and that they'll do that at our insistence, I think we'll have a more secure, stronger, and more effective country. And those are goals on which I would hope that conservatives and liberals and independence could unite. Thank you very much for your attention. Okay, well, now is the question period, and I guess we can go on here for 20 or 30 minutes or whatever. The question was to my views on the Middle East with special reference to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. And the other question was on South Africa. With reference to the Middle East, I think that we have a new opportunity for peace in the middle East. It's based partly on the fact that the PLO has now recognized Israel and has renounced terrorism and has accepted Resolutions 242 and 338 as a condition of the United Nations as a condition for a negotiated settlement of their differences with Israel. This is doubtless brought about in part through the Intifada, the protest organized by stone-throwing young Palestinians on the West Bank. And I think that's captured the attention, if not the admiration, of most people around the world, particularly those who feel somewhat benighted themselves. In any event, it has put sufficient heat on the whole Palestinian movement that Arafat and his people have seen fit to do these things that I've just just mentioned. Now, it seems to me the United States having said all these years that if the Palestinians would meet these commitments that we would start negotiating with them, that we've done that in good faith. Arafat had scarcely made these three concessions than the United States began negotiations with the PLO through its ambassador and Tunis. I was there recently and met with our ambassador, as well as with Chairman Arafat. And I have no doubt that they are interested in progress in these talks. I think that, for whatever reason, Arafat is willing to accept the state of Israel. I think they recognize it's a hopeless thing to take Israel on militarily, and that the only hope for some kind of Palestinian self-determination is through a negotiated settlement with the Israelis. At the present time, a sizeable segment of Israeli public opinion favors such negotiations on behalf of the Israeli government, but as all here know, Prime Minister Shamir and others in the government are opposed to that and are flatly opposed to the idea of an independent Palestinian state. If I were an Israeli, even an ardent Zionist, I would want to get into negotiations with the PLO as quickly as possible. There is no hope for security and long-term peace for Israel without an agreement with the Palestinians. And as a practical matter, that means the PLO. There's really nobody else to negotiate with that has the power to carry out either the negotiations or the enforcement of those negotiations in the Palestinian world other than the PLO, and especially the Arafat leadership in that group. So my own view is that the Bush Administration and the Reagan Administration before them were right in urging Arafat to make these concessions, and they were right in starting negotiations with them. I hope that'll be continued. I hope the Palestinians under Arafat will continue to exercise some measure of restraint. And above all, I hope that the Israeli government will modify its position and at some stage begin negotiations with the PLO. I don't see what they have to lose. There's always some risk in negotiations, but the risks of continued conflict are even greater. As for South Africa, I'll just say very quickly that I have supported all of the measures of tightening pressure on South Africa. I would not support American military intervention there. And I think even the ultimate economic weapon ought to be applied step-by-step and gradually, as we're doing. I'm encouraged by the fact that the South Africans have agreed to grant Namibia independence, finally, in return for a Cuban pullout from Angola. One can only hope that that will go forward and that they will begin addressing more realistically the demands of the Black population, which is the majority population, for a full measure of equality and justice inside South Africa.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] Senator McGovern, We've spent billions in the past few years on this thing called SDI, the Space Defense Initiative. And we all know that, in the meantime, you could carry a nuclear bomb across the Canadian or the Mexican border in a suitcase if you wanted to blow us up. Recently, the administration has started to suggest that maybe it's SOI, Space Offensive Initiative. Can you comment on that?\r\n\r\n- Well, Senator Harkin of this state sits on the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, which is the crucial committee in the Senate as far as controlling defense expenditures are concerned, he told us earlier tonight that this is precisely what has happened, that once the critics of the system began to puncture the notion that SDI could provide a dependable defense shield for the United States, and I think people who have looked into the system at all know that it can't do that. It doesn't even pretend to provide any defense against submarine launched missiles. It has no defense against bombers. It's defensive capability is aimed at intercontinental ballistic missiles. And even its wildest advocates would not expect that it could knock down more than a fraction of the incoming intercontinental ballistic missiles. So that if nuclear war comes, The United States will disappear, whether we have an SDI or whether we don't. And so will the Soviet Union. It will just be gone if nuclear war should come. So they only defense against nuclear war is to give up the notion that there is a defense and for each side to either exercise enough restraint because of wisdom, or more likely because of the power of the other side so that no attack begins. It's the gospel of deterrence. So far, it's worked pretty well. It's a very dangerous situation, but so far, they capacity of each side to destroy the other has apparently helped prevent a war. Now we're so far beyond what we need for deterrence that I would argue that it's in the interest of both sides to scale down these forces just as fast as we can. 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It may produce the kind of uncertainty and panic that leads you to shoot at every indication of trouble. So I think this SDI is bad news. I've thought so from the very beginning. It's an enormously expensive system. The estimates I've seen run up to a trillion dollars to deploy it. I can tell you one thing, if we decide to go down that route, forget about reducing the deficit. Forget about increasing funds for education and the environment and student loans and the war on drugs. Those things are gonna be held constant if not cut back while we proceed down this road. And once we get those weapons into outer space, even one of them in outer space, we've started down a road from which there may be no turning back. The only way we've been able to get these arms control agreements that we have today is because of the assurance of verification, that each side can verify what the other is doing. Now so far, neither side has a single nuclear weapon in outer space. Once we break that barrier, there's no verification then of what goes on in the outer reaches of space. And I think the arms race then skyrockets out of control. So it's very important it seems to me and I see some hopeful signs that there may be people in the Bush Administration that understand this, that we slow this thing down and I would hope eventually knock it out of the budget entirely. I see no purpose in another big round of nuclear escalation given the present standoff between the two major powers. We ought to be moving in the other direction.\r\n\r\n- You spoke with, Neeman said, \"We don't need \"another Republican party.\" I'd like to ask you therefore what about the green vote will they, to some of us they're a pretty liberal group of people. And maybe we ought to start a new party, that's what we are.\r\n\r\n- Well, we've had third party movements in the United States. What usually happens with a third party in this country, and obviously you can't conclude this is always gonna be the result is that once they start gathering steam their program is preempted by one of the major parties. And they quickly fade from the scene. That's happened time after time in American politics. In my state it was the nonpartisan league that interestingly enough was taken over by the Republican party. And in other cases, it's been movements that were preempted by national led parties. My guess is that there is a very constructive role for the Rainbow Coalition that the Reverend Jackson has launched inside the Democratic party. But I personally would hope that he and his supporters would stay inside the Democratic ranks and continue to press the Democratic Party for more forthright positions. Some of the planks that were offered at the national convention in Atlanta last summer, I thought were pretty good. The proposal to increased taxes modestly on the rich was- Was not a bad idea. You know, for the last eight years, the Reagan people with the help of the congressional Democrats I might say, have really given the rich a big break on taxes. They really done well. And I understand why some of them appreciate it enough to vote Republican even though the Democrats voted for it too. But there comes a point when this gravy train has to end. I sit on the board of directors of a corporation. It just dismays me the amount of time that they spend talking about how to avoid paying any taxes. And all these auditors that are brought in to explain how we can shift resources so that corporations can climb through the loopholes and avoid paying any taxes. You would think that when they hear them talk that the worst possible thing that could happen to a business is to have to pay any taxes to the federal government. My father used to say, \"When you pay a lot of income taxes \"go out and celebrate, it means you're making \"a lot of money.\" And I've never forgotten that because it's a privilege if we have a truly graduated income tax in this country. And I must say, we're moving the other way too fast to suit me. If you have a really graduated income tax and you make a lot of money, you should pay a substantial amount of it in taxes. And this is what Jesse Jackson and some of his people offered at the convention. I've forgotten the other two amendments they had but I voted for all three of them. I thought they made a lot of sense. I think one was a freeze on the military budget not to let it go above the level where it is. What's wrong with that at a time when the Russians are making all these proposals for cuts and pulling back tanks and conventional forces out of Eastern Europe and cutting back on strategic arms? What's the big danger to us to say we're gonna hold the line too for a while on military audits. So I think that there's room for the Rainbow Coalition, there's room for a powerful and influential group in the Democratic party talking about civil rights and the problems of the cities and the homeless and the hungry and the difficulties of the dependent children and single family, single households in this country. All these things, are matters of great concern but just speaking from a standpoint of personal judgment I would like to see the Rainbow Coalition continue to operate within the democratic party rather than going off as a third party. Incidentally they did pretty well in 1988. I think that it was some measure of the appeal and hunger for liberal alternatives that in one state after another Jesse Jackson and his supporters came in second. It's not too bad for a fella with- I told Jesse Jackson who I think came into politics in my '72 campaign when he was the co-head of the Illinois delegation, that when he started talking about running for president I said, \"I don't think you \"can make it Jesse, I think you have to serve for a while \"as mayor or Congressman or Senator.\" But he almost made it. So I think that he did better at least than I expected and maybe even better than he expected. So it may be premature to be talking about a third party at this point. Besides who's gonna provide the counter in the Democratic party to the so-called Democratic Leadership Council that has formed under some of the more conservative senators and governors who wanna move the party to the right, rather than into a fundamental change of some of the problems that we face.\r\n\r\n- Senator, what would you rather do, go through another presidential campaign with debates and media takes all the time or go Saturday Night Live?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'd kinda hoped these Saturday Night Live people would invite me back. They pay pretty well too. I did that right after the '84, brief '84 presidential bid. I must say I got about as favorable a reaction on that as I did on the presidential race. So maybe I've missed my calling.\r\n\r\n- What do you think Exxon's liability is in the values oil spill and do you think tax payers should be cleaning up after these corporations?\r\n\r\n- I think Exxon being as strong and profitable a corporation as it is ought to pay the major share of that cleanup. It was their fault. It was their crew, their ship, their oil. And I think they ought to be held responsible for it. Now, this is not maybe the most fundamental answer to the problem in that we've got an awful lot of oil floating at sea at all times. But I think in this case particularly Exxon has to be the principal party in financing the cleanup. I don't object to using some of the military forces and others to assist in this effort but Exxon ought to pay the principal costs.\r\n\r\n- How did that do, we just concluded a week on American Indians that in your own state of South Dakota there's big trouble with the Black Hills tribe. I was wondering what your feelings are on the Black Hills and do you support the Indian Americans to get the Black Hills back?\r\n\r\n- Well, one of the really great tragedies in American history is the way the Native Americans, the American Indians have been treated. And unquestionably one treaty after another was violated. Most of them before the turn of the century. It's ancient history to most of us. But a recent book with the title \"The Trail of Broken Treaties\". Another one \"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee\", which is also the site of a famous scene in South Dakota. All of these studies detail this, I think embarrassing and painful record of broken treaties and broken agreements with the Indians. They go back into our early history actually and come on down through the 19th century. As a practical matter the Indians are not gonna get the Black Hills back. There's no way that's going to happen. What the Indian Claims Commission and the courts have proposed is a cash settlement of a $100,000,000 or more, which may be too meager. Maybe that figure ought to be rejected. But frankly, I think it's unrealistic. And I've told my Indian friends this, to think that they're gonna get the Black Hills back. They're not gonna get Manhattan Island back either. They're not gonna get Oklahoma back or parts of California, New Mexico and Arizona. So those I think are unrealistic objectives. As a matter of fact, even from a legal standpoint when you start back through this trail of trying to find who originally owned the land, you get to the point where you have to call in the anthropologists and the students of ancient history and these early titles if there were such things are pretty murky. So while there might be one Indian group that claims the Black Hills, maybe there's a prior group that thinks they lost it to this particular Indian group. And there were many tribal wars over the years that add to the murkiness of who the original owners were so that it becomes kinda counter productive from a legal standpoint, to try to retrieve a great area like the Black Hills, which as you know is now heavily settled by whites. And an area of the state that I think will not be returned to Indian ownership. I wouldn't even counsel that course if I were still in public life in South Dakota.\r\n\r\n- A major practice is that they are there any alternative measures that curb the drug problem?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't know any answer to the drug problem except education. I've thought a lot about the various possibilities. And I've looked at what other countries are doing. The British have had a modified program of providing drugs for addicts. I think done under medical supervision. It's had some limited success. But I think the only answer to the drug problem and this is a long-term answer is to begin at the nursery school level with education on drugs. And it's gonna take a lot of money to train the teachers and to train the people that work with children on the dangers of drugs. I saw a proposal here the other day along this line that began at age 14. That's about eight years too late. It probably ought to begin at age five or six and come on through. There are thousands of children on drugs in Washington, D.C. that are not 10 years old yet. And so it has to begin at a very young age and it has to be comprehensive, it has to be carefully worked out with the most skilled people we have in this field. But I don't see any other way to get at the problem. It's not going to give us a drug-free society but just bringing in the Army and more border patrols and those things, while I'm not against tightening up the interdiction of drugs, I don't think that's the answer. The supply side people always want to deal with supply. I think the time has come to look at the demand side on drugs and see what we can do to deal with this addictive society of ours that has so many millions of our fellow citizens on drugs. I suppose there're different levels of problems. You have the problems in the inner cities, the problems of despair and poverty, it just hurts so much to live in some of those neighborhoods that people are looking for relief anywhere they can find it. And then you have the problems of affluent America where you find the coke in the country clubs and among the yuppies and around the country among people who are not necessarily hurting but are looking for pleasure at any cost. And that's a different aspect of the problem. I've thrown out questions to audiences in different parts of the country about whether people think we ought to attempt some form of controlled but legalized drugs to get it out of the hands of the underworld. And if there's any support for that I can't find it around this country, maybe a few people but by and large the opposition is overwhelming. And one of the reasons is that drugs are just so deadly. I realize that alcohol can be very deadly too but there is some of these drugs that produce such wild behavior that I think the American public won't sustain an effort to legalize it even under tight discipline and tight conditions. So it seems to me the only really reasonable course we have is to pay the price and the pain and the sacrifice of a long-term educational program that begins as I say right down at the nursery level.\r\n\r\n- Senator will take one more question and then we'll scan .\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- of politicians and how these people are as and starting over especially how could you help in your ?\r\n\r\n- Well, I do think that a sense of history is one of the things that's missing from our public life on the part of both voters and politicians. The voters have awfully short memories sometimes and pretty distorted views of the issues just as the politicians do. I remember back in 1960 when John Kennedy was debating Richard Nixon in that presidential race. They had a series of debates on television that the older people here will remember. And in one of those debates, one of the television reporters ask each candidate to say in one minute, what his most important qualification was to the presidency. And Nixon, who had drawn first said that he thought it was his experience. I didn't know John Kennedy very well then but I thought Nixon's answer was pretty persuasive. He discussed his years in the House and in the Senate, eight years as vice president and at the right hand of Dwight Eisenhower all these years and his travels and his contacts with world leaders all over the globe. It was a pretty convincing answer and I wondered what John Kennedy would say. And he came to the podium and said, \"Well I think if I have \"any one qualification for the presidency \"it's my sense of history.\" By that he said, \"I mean the capacity to know what \"the historical values and forces are that have brought \"the United States to a position of greatness in the world \"and what the forces are that we ought to oppose \"that threaten the well-being of the country. \"And it's my knowledge of history that I believe would stand \"well if I were elected president of the United States.\" Well, of course he had me from that point on out as an old history teacher. But I think there's some truth in that, that we sometimes either draw the wrong lessons from history or we don't look very accurately at it. I've always marveled that we entered into the war in Southeast Asia without studying the history of that area. We didn't even seem to know that there'd been 1,000 year bitter rivalry between the Chinese and the Vietnamese. We had the notion somehow I mean, our policymakers did, that Ho Chi Minh was a vessel, a puppet of the Chinese and that this was one great big mock international communist monolith acting as a unit. And of course, nothing could have been further from the historical record. The Vietnamese and the Chinese had hated each other for 1,000 years. And as soon as the war was over, they fell into a war with each other. The Cambodians and the Vietnamese had hated each other for 1,000 years. And they fell into a war with each other as soon as we got out of the road. So that instead of the Domino Theory we had just the reverse, the resurgence of powerful nationalistic sentiment in all these countries that better they resisted any kind of intrusion of one by the other. We should've known that nationalism was a very powerful force, much more powerful in Southeast Asia than the Kremlin or P. King's communist designs. Those things were of secondary concern to people leading the rebellion in Vietnam. They wanted to get the French out, get the Japanese out, get the Americans out and establish an independent course. And if we had just recognized that I don't think we'd have ever gone in there. We supposedly went in because we thought that if we didn't the whole world would collapse to communism instead of that. And that was the argument. I've heard Lyndon Johnson say many times, \"If South Vietnam \"falls so will Thailand, so will the Philippines, \"so will Australia, India until eventually they threaten \"our own shores.\" Just how these Chinese junks were supposed to get by the Seventh Fleet on their way to San Francisco is never explained but that was the silly kinda thing that we believed. And it was an outgrowth of historical ignorance about what was going on. I thank God that after World War II, I was able to enroll under the G.I. Bill at Northwestern University and go all the way through to a PhD in the study of history in which we were instructed way back in '45 and '46 that Southeast Asia was out of control and in rebellion and that neither the communists nor us could control it. And the best thing to do in those circumstances is to step aside. But instead of that we sacrificed nearly 60,000 young Americans in a hopeless venture to try to make people in that part of the world behave the way we thought they should do. Why couldn't these miserable people do what we wanted them to do? Why couldn't they see the world as we did? But I think a little knowledge of history can be helpful in avoiding mistakes of that kind. I taught a seminar at Louisiana State University here a couple of years ago, I went down there one day a week. And there was a question, it was all on the Vietnam War. The whole seminar at the request of the Dean was on Vietnam. And there was a question the second or third class from a young woman who said, \"Do you think that we could \"learn more about what we ought to do in Nicaragua \"if we would study closely the history of Vietnam?\" And before I could answer the question a Vietnam veteran who was in the class, raised his hand and he said, \"Senator, \"I think if we wanna know about what we ought to do \"in Nicaragua, it might be good to read the history \"of Nicaragua instead of \"studying Vietnam.\" And that's true. We were trying to run the war in Vietnam on the lessons of Munich. Going back to 1938 and '39, it had nothing to do with these revolutionary forces that were convulsing in Southeast Asia. There wasn't any Hitler there ready to take over the world. And so we applied crassly a lesson from one part of the world that had no relevance at all to what was going on in the Southeast. And we're doing the same thing or the Reagan people were in Nicaragua, blundering into an area where the biggest problem we've had with our influence there is that we've gone in too many times over the last 100 years. And I think that we're now realizing that, I think this last $69 million payment we made under the guise of humanitarian aid is really a kind of a fig leaf to cover our withdrawal so that we don't seem to be running out while we run out. But in any event, a lot of these problems I think could be prevented with a little better sense of history and knowledge of what it has to teach us. So all of you here study history real hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43416/file/116317#t=0.0,1524.68898"}]}]}]}