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Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4388.87,4393.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1038","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I mean that's the way science is going nowadays","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4395.09,4397.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1039","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think probably yeah maybe not just science but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4397.32,4401.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1040","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it could be the whole world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4402.81,4404.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1041","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well all the more reason to. 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And one of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4419.63,4424.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the questions in the plan that one of the central","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4424.95,4427.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1046","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions of what do you expect to find out. My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4427.41,4430.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"response was I don't know. And if I knew I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4430.86,4434.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wouldn't do it. Now let's put a stupid question","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4434.67,4437.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with some turkey on some desk is is protecting his","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4439.31,4444.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"salary by dreaming up questionnaires like that. Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4444.15,4447.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So that was it. And that's that's the way of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4451.13,4453.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your bureaucracy is invading now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4453.72,4455.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Things have changed. Yeah. Yeah well I did I do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4460.5,4465.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have I missed any questions or things that you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4465.54,4468.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want to make sure we include in the in the room No","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4468.27,4471.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I rambled on probably. I really appreciate the all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4471.68,4476.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1057","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your time and I think this will be great. Great","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4476.25,4481.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1058","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you have a really good time on this and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753#t=4481.55,4484.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1073/collection_resources/28502/file/95753/transcript/18107/annotation/1059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"look forward to reviewing. I was. 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So this is April 19th 2007 in Ames Iowa. And we're talking with Dr. Willard Talbot. And just first just start out and say a little bit about how you came to Ames and your association with the lab. Well I came to Ames for graduate school. I got my bachelor's at the University Colorado and came to Ames to study nuclear physics. In the physics department here. I got my PHC in. 1960 however I left in 1959. And then I went to industry for about two and a half years and came back to Ames in 1962 to be on the faculty. And at that time that I really got involved in in programs at the EMS lab and particularly the Ames lab research reactor. But when I came I was involved. In the Iowa State synchrotron for my PHC thesis. And how did you get interested or how did you know you wanted to study nuclear physics when you came here. Well the subject of nuclear physics was very hot in those days because of the success I guess you can say of the project Manhattan. And the end of World War 2. And there was a lot of of interest in learning more. About nuclear interactions and such characterisation and nuclear. And I came to Ames mainly because of the program at the synchrotron. I. Might have had opportunities to go to other places but. My. Parents both came from Iowa. I grew up in Wyoming. Both my parents came by one from Iowa. And so I would already had. Sort of a soft spot in our thoughts. So Iowa State University seemed like a good place to come. And did you know at that time about the Manhattan Project. We're sure that it helps here. I hung out. No no. That was once once the cover was blown and everybody knew about it. And. Actually I got interested in physics during World War 2 when I was at school in Denver. And we had a. Harvard professor. And he was in the eighth grade man Harvard professor come visit for a day. He was also head of the. Climax observatory which had the world's first chronograph to look at the corona of the sun. Up and climax Colorado. He was such a fascinating person that I decided I wanted to. Go into that field. So the synchrotron was what what was. Well I didn't really know of its existence at the time I applied but that soon after I got here. DANZA frown and took me under his wing and of course then it progressed from there because that's where he was doing research. Saw an amendment that just fit me to a T. Talk a little more about what the synchrotron was of the Synchrotron I don't remember when it was started but it might have been in 47 48 something like that. I came in fifty four. And. A synchrotron was. An electron accelerator that accelerate electrons to normalize 60 million electron volts. And they use these to provide. Beams of high energy. Not X-rays but almost x rays. 3D called Brenda Strong breaking radiation but it's the electrons Who the. Tungsten target. And then you get the x rays. They use the same approach nowadays and radiation therapy. Where they'll accelerate electrons up to 20 or so maybe and then strike a target. So you're actually being irradiated by x rays and not by electrons except in certain cases they will. In radiation therapy. Illuminate the portions of the body they're trying to treat with electrons but these these high energy photons in resulting from the conversion of electrons to photons and in the target. Can be used to study. Nuclear transformations brought about by high energy. Gamma rays or photons and where the nucleus would absorb. High energy photon and then. Transform into another nucleus by emission of some of its constituent particles. So it was it was kind of neat and I was able to to do some some work there on. Case studies of some of these nuclei that that result from those transformations most of the work there was done on just the process of the nuclear transformations and I was interested in the end results that I could study that and Danza for I was the Dan was my major professor. He was actually. One of the. Well one of the cheat people at synchrotron there were several of them. Jackson Laszlo who has long since gone. Was also in it then and then other people from the department. Came because they could be involved in that too. Were there other graduate students. Oh yeah. At the time. Oh yeah. There were others. And it was kind of a close knit group because a synchrotron was located off campus. And we had to take a bus out there or drive if we had a car. And so we were kind of cloistered out there. And it kind of formed. Working. Kadri of of friends I guess. And we also had people and chemistry. I'm Don Martin and Adolph Oye. Had students out there to do some chemical hot chemistry. I mean these nuclei when they absorb a photon there they're what's called hot they recoil and so they rush through a medium and do all sorts of damage there and my chemistry was a big topic then because they didn't know quite how many it was it was a temperature is higher than the normal thermal temperatures you get. So that must have been kind of an exciting. It was an exciting time. You bet. And and one of the features was that even though people were kind of careful. We did some things that wouldn't be allowed in terms of radiation exposure and things like that. Q Do you remember some of the kinds of experiments or things that happened. Oh well I mean there was mainly people. Working on these. Foreign nuclear events and were and. Then some decay studies of which I was principal on them I guess. But it was it was an interesting time because. Resources at that time were kind of limited move and. Iowa State University was was fortunate to be among those who who had such facilities there were a couple of others in the country. The National Bureau of Standards in Gaithersburg Maryland and the other University of Illinois I can remember for and just talk. Describe a little bit more what the what the work area was like and Lowell it was the synchrotron building where it had an animal shop and that had some office lab places and this was up in north north Ames. CONAN Yeah yeah near where it is now. Ryssdal Well I mean I don't know if the building still exists I mean it's taken over by AG engineering I think. Oh the synchrotron was dismantled but it's over by a part of the former reactor. I was taking a. Hit. In the woods right and then there was a corridor that led to what we called the magnet room which was the room that housed. The accelerator. And as you accelerated these electrons guiding them in a magnetic field. That increased to his time and. As it increased you gave the electrons a kick around and then the higher energy electrons were still constrained on the same path because of the increased magnetic field that was synchronized. So. That's why it's called a synchrotron really synchronized. So. The and the main room was off limits while the magnet was round her mother machine was running while the electrons were circulating. But we. There was a basement underneath. We would sometimes go down there to observe the beam because we wanted to find out what it was like and if the electrons were allowed to go out into the room as through a window and in the packing chamber then you could see a nice blue pencil of no beam as a lionizing the air going out so you could actually see something. But we didn't do that very often. I mean we were careful but still we did some things that probably today wouldn't be allowed. It's how. Talk a little more about how things have changed with only the handling of materials all things have changed incredibly in the sense that that we could go out and. Into the magnet room turn them be a moth and then go out and retrieve samples that were radioactivity hot. Essentially with bare hands or with tongs and put them in a shielded container. Today you probably have to have a remote system for something like that. So. Did people who were doing that know very much about the materials at that time or did they know and just it was. Well the knowledge from the materials was was that we were working with. Not particularly exotic materials. OK so moving that the materials properties were known. I mean one of the experiments I ran was with phosphorus. And of course that's that's powerful like anhydrous copper both. So we had to be sure that it was it was sealed up. And at that time with Mylar films which are strong like saran wrap and there were precautions that we took that we knew about it. We didn't have any real spills that I remember that the machine itself had a glass vacuum chamber which we called a doughnut because it looked like one. Very skinny doughnut. But there was a big hole in the middle but the the glass doughnut was provided. The machine was built by General Electric and it had been used for something. Oh I've forgotten exactly what. But the glass doughnuts were hard to come by. And so we the synchrotron people enlisted the help of the ceramics engineering department to make ceramic doughnuts instead of glass ones. And David Wilder took that's personal. Oh there's another person I had as a person you talk to so David Wyler developed the ceramic donuts for us. And that was done on a pretty crash basis because one of the graduate students went out and the magnet room and the magnet was running and had a screwdriver in his back pocket that got sucked up and broken on it for my guys. And so people were very disturbed at him. I guess. Yeah. And it was there only one. One time at a time donut of a little boy that was being used. So we quickly commissioned a ceramic doughnut. And that seemed to work pretty well. But it had other problems that had to be overcome. It wasn't easy to see through for one thing except these doughnuts. They came and glass and then after a bit of use and they were all brown so they you couldn't see through. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Did people wear protective clothing enough to do things like that. No. No not particularly. And that's probably changed. I. Well I mean what's changed this is perhaps you have to do more things remotely than you would then but the same kind of research is not going on any longer. So that's why it's not there. Aha aha. It's not of interest anymore. We've done what the research topics have been exhausted. Say using that facility. When was the synchrotron closed. I don't really know. I mean I think it was close in the order of the late 60s. I'm not quite sure who. Yeah I. It might have been early 70s I think was late 60s but it was shut down. So how many people would have been working there. Oh at any given time. Probably had. Including. The two chemistry people in the staff. You know professor types probably had something like six or seven professors and maybe a total of 15 graduate students one through whom plus they had a machinist. Sort of a gopher. And. An engineer and two electronic ears that were involved in the Gopher was just somebody who you would run the bus back and forth to. Yeah we'll take care of things for you. And what kinds of Did were there other parts of the equipment that were made right in the machine shop there. Oh yeah. Most of our experiments involved our own ideas and the. You didn't buy these off a series shelf so you had to build them. And sometimes it got kind of interesting. I had. A. With my experiment I had to make a pneumatic transport system you know like you use it the bank. Drive in window. Oh yeah. Yeah except I used. A wave guide tube which was rectangular and cross-section and then maybe an inch and a half by three fourths minutes something like that. And so we use that and you made you made do with what you could find. But the the machining of that and so on we did ourselves and with the help of the machinist. And then there was a design engineer that sometimes you get help from and what. What other were there still parts of equipment and and materials that came from that you had to go out and find and well procured. Oh yeah. There were things that were procured. I mean even though the synchrotron because of the. Reliance in-house to make the vacuum chambers in ceramic engineering we can do a lot in-house. There was a lot that we had to go out and buy two amplifiers and things of that sort. And in fact Zaf Rana was instrumental in getting one of the first three what were called multi-channel analyzers for analysis of the signals from detectors sanitation detectors to to study the decays of some radioactive nuclei. And there were three built for the AC at that time. One went argon one went to Ames. Lab and forgot where the third one went might have been place like Berkeley or Oak Ridge. So like that. And. That that was really considered quite a coup to get one of those I would think. Otherwise there was a very cumbersome process you had to go through to study these decays but with that it was just to flip a switch and watch. So this must have but that was that that was a tube type machine that took a whole room almost. And every day before we'd use it we had to test all the tubes make sure that it wouldn't fail during the day. And. In about three years it all got supplanted by solid state electronics. Oh my God. Kind of like today. Well a lot of that solid state electronics then was transistors not not integrated circuits. So that's still took a lot of room. And then the the materials that you were using. How did you take down their names. I have them in from colleagues and names. They would make of samples and such but but mostly. I don't know about. People other than what I did so much. I just dependent on chemical stores for most of my stuff. So it wasn't complicated one convoluted to do that. I mean we didn't have to have single crystal materials or anything like that for this work. There were a study materials properties who were studying the properties of them of the nuclei within. What. What was the craziest thing you can remember that happened while you were working out there. There were several crazy things I mean breaking up the doughnut by being sucked in screwdriver was one then one of the fellows there like the guy who was really the the guru on me keeping the machine running whole bureau was his name. Yeah. A sense of humor. And in those days because there were a lot of talks about how radiation effected mutations and so on. You could go to the toy store and get these huge B's or something like that plastic these. So he got an array of huge insects and hung out from the ceiling there. So lots of people walk ins. And he could say See that's what happens when you step into the beam. It's always kind of fun times frighten the graduate students and they were amused. Yeah. So let's see you you went from there. I went from there to after I got my degree or after I finished my final exam took off and went to Littleton Colorado where I worked in industry at. The Denver research center of what was then Ohio oil company it's now marathon. And. They wanted to develop some techniques to. Characterize geologic samples. So I. I set up some mass spectrometry laboratory to. Analyze oxygen contents and carbon contents of both organic and. Sedimentary geologic samples. And then how did you how did you come back. Well Zaf Rondeaux came out to visit. I guess it was the summer of 1961. And we organized some sites that they could see or something. At that time I told em that I wasn't terribly happy with industry and that they even though it was a nice research setting and stuff and you had a lot of at your fingertips that you might need. There was still a pervasive. Undercurrent that what you did had to have some sort of corporate benefit. And. So you weren't so free to to explore things of your own interest as you might have wanted. And he said well we're going to we're building a reactor now and Iowa State and and need somebody to spearhead a nuclear physics effort there. And my answer consider coming back. So I went on a couple of interview trips and then we decided to come here to return to Ames. So that was right at the beginning of the reactor. Yes. Yes. I mean at the time the reactor was just undergoing construction and that was 1962. And I think it did fire up in 64. But it was undergoing construction. However. There were funds around for or implementing or getting equipment to do experiments at the reactor and so I contracted. To. While I developed specifications and so on for a mass separator. And at that time there weren't many places where you could go on and we ended up buying one and Sweden at. What was then called the Nobel Institute. And Princeton University and a colleague of mine there had also gotten one and also an argon and Berkeley I think the are gone and Berkeley machines were Boston Denmark. At least though the one in Princeton and the one in here Vermont and in Stockholm. Now when you say machine that probably doesn't really get that stop separator mass separator probably takes as much room as a big living room. Oh yeah. So I was a big magnet. And a lot of electronics associated with it and so on. And the idea here was to. Develop a technique that would be able to. Provide short lived nuclei through vision for the first time that was mass separated purified essentially. And this technique had been tried once before in Copenhagen. Not not terribly successful but the proof of the principle had been developed there. But so it was a matter of simple extension to do it here. And we did have some technical development that we had to do. Like how do you stand off a high voltage with a gaseous flow and things of that sort. And that was kind of interesting resulted in a master's thesis. But we were able to do a lot of this and by the time we set up the facility I had probably five graduate students and a couple of people working with me then was able to hire some postdocs and so on so we got going. But it was at the very initial stages of the reactor. And were there many other facilities like that at all. There were there were there were at least three facilities and there was mine there is what's called a neutron frac diameter where they would open up a tube to the reactor core let the neutrons stream out and then they would select out certain energies through crystal diffraction and then study solids that way. And they ended up with two neutron different dollars plus there was an activation channel or you could send samples of materials next to the core of the reactor where the or the neutron environment was very intense and activate and send them back to a chemistry lab or. For separation or whatever you wanted to do. And those were all here as well. So what did it take to get the reactor put together. I have no idea about the expanse but in those days on dollar when a longer way I was thinking more just about the mechanics of allow the reactor standardizing in the reactor staff was oh probably a two people and health physics and three engineers would design equipment and and then the reactor. Supervisors and and and shift workers on the operators. Probably a total of 20 or so people over and. Pieces of equipment involved came from all different places different places one of the first neutron data tracked down or came from it was made by Mitsubishi in Japan who came complete with a Japanese graduate student who could translate the manuals sending. Family in for and you know some of the original work being done there was quite nice some Clinton Swenson for example was involved in some some work there. He had I think the world's first science single crystal of helium solid helium which was at low temperatures you see. So he studied the characteristics of that sample by neutron diffraction for example. So people would do really far out things and they wouldn't be there all the time I mean. So then they grab and be. Directed toward another research topic. Was that. Was there competition for who got to use it when. I mean we were sort of insular from that because we had a dedicated beam line and so we were the only competition we faced was within our group. I mean if one guy wanted to do some then another guy wanted to do something else. We had to decide when to schedule things and that was no big deal. And how how much time when you say schedule things for any given process or experiment were worthwhile some of the neutron diffraction experiments or last months. Our experiments would usually last a few days and so we would. Man commander all of the graduate students to take shifts to watch the experiments unfold. So somebody was there even overnight and ranked around 24/7. So what was that like. Was there a place for people to sleep overnight or if you were there you were awake. No there wasn't really a place to sleep. We had all had officers in the lab. And then you went in the reactor room and through a. Airlock because the reactor was a slight negative pressure. Nothing would escape the invite to the environment without being filtered. So then you had to go through the airlock to them to the rancor room. But now I'm thinks things were programmed so someone some of the machines like a different diameters they computerized them and they could run by themselves. You know so on there were there was a whole big bustle of activity unless there was something happening that you wanted to change a setup or something. So that was a bigger facility than the synchrotron. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It was bigger. And it had a larger budget by far. I don't know what to say. I don't know really who funded the synchrotron. I don't know if the Ames lab funded it greatly or just the universe. I really don't know. But the reactor was funded through the Ames I am completely over. And every year we had to make a pilgrimage or Carter and also host a visit by the Washington people. A. And they came to see how things were. Yeah I think it might have been the early 70s when the synchrotron was shut down because at that time I was head of the nuclear program for Ames lab and I couldn't remember when and the announcement was made. Horses lived to about twenty five years page and then they die. And so the synchrotron was how old. I was by the bureaucrat who is a good guy and really a nice guy but. He was having to shut down the secretary. When was that. So I guess it was supported by diesel. Yeah. Huh. Yeah well the university. Really. And they were kind of sorry to have to close it down. Well. I think they were under some pressure by that time that was after the heyday of the the. Emphasis on supporting science. You know like going to the moon project and stuff like that and scientific funding was was being scrutinized pretty heavily. And at that time I think deal where he was faced with if we want to do something the forefront will have to shut some of the old things down. And so the synchrotron and now live the horse. So. Let's see. I was going to ask you to tell. When. When we talked earlier I think I remember you telling some stories about when the reactor equipment was coming in. Oh yeah. Well then when it was a big day when they decided they would load the fuel on the reactor and start it up and we were all there including. Spending then. And who was the head of the Ames lab at that time. And I think the Washington people were there. And. They started withdrawing the control rods to start up the reactor. And a mouse ran across the control room floor. And that got everybody all concerned because who knew what insulation on what wires that Miles the dude. Yes. So they shut it down for a while and finally inspected everything in the console. But yeah it went up and did pretty supposedly but it was. There were times of of. Concern because it was a brand new operation saying and even though the reactor had been modeled after one that had run successfully at Argonne it was the first time this reactor had gone up. You know you always wonder what good it is and a little hidden. In things there are that you hadn't anticipated but it ran very smoothly after that. Just one mouse just one mouse and. Let's see so as to. Tell a little bit about what the work environment was like at the reactor then the reactor. There was a more. There was more awareness of health physics or of personal exposure and so on. So we had two three health physicists that would. Be available and if you wanted. We all wore monitors. And. And if you if you wanted something special surveyed for radiation danger or exposure rates or whatever you could call on a health physicist to come in and assist you. And it was his job just to tell you what it was. You went there to tell you not to do something. But he was there to tell you if he if he touch this you're going to get so much exposure per minute or whatever. So there was there was that. And then. In going through the airlock you picked up your badge and monitors and special. Ionization monitors. You know these old pencils you wear. You. And. Then you drop them off when you left the reactor room. And you and then somebody else was keeping well somebody was keeping track of them. Yeah. Every move I did read them every. I don't remember what the frequency was but. Periodically they can read. And then did were there. Were there people who who had to quit their. Their work or or changed their practice. Well at some point there was there was always a review of what must be done and the health physic people plus the reactor operations people. Were part of that review. So yeah we were very open in discussing everything we wish to do. And I mean we wanted to be safe. And it wasn't just strange and then as it is now. But. It was I would say prudent. Review. Where we had. A pretty thorough airing of the. Of. Not only the radiation possibility but the mechanical parts. I mean we didn't want to if we inserted something into the reactor we didn't want to disturb the reactor for example. So the reactor the reactor physicists would sit in two and make a judgment. Are we going to to change the environment of the fuel in the reactor. By opening up a beam tube where you allow neutrons to stream out then they're not available for reaction. So how do you have to shim the control rods in the reactor to keep the reactor power the same and so on. And did you Did you have to consider the other experiment. Oh yeah. That people while we we didn't so much only to the extent that. If we were using. A neutron beam for something we had to be sure that the people can walk around our apparatus without any excuse. That's essentially I think just access to people's experiments. Yeah and and they didn't. They didn't ask us if they could do something because we are already assumed that that you know. Things wouldn't change for them. Huh. Now. Like the neutron they fracked homeowners who shoot. All they did was change samples at the outside of the equipment and they didn't disturb the way the equipment ran at all. We did more deadly with the core of the reactor than they did a ha. And that was your you were in charge of that whole nuclear physics of physics paradigm. Yeah. Yeah. So we. We built up quite a set of apparatus. Then. In. 78 I guess the reactor was shut down and. Equipment got moved to Brookhaven. Our equipment got moved to break even a home. What. Let's see so it was open from 64 to essentially 70 through 77 I think. And what worked why. Why was it shut down at that point. Simple budget. Hmm. I mean by that time DLC was I mean. I don't remember whether. Deal we had been created yet. There was that interim between Tommy Energy Commission and DOJ and I forgot what that organization was called. They were having some budget problems. And they were trying to. Bring other facilities into operation such as the. Large accelerator at Los Alamos and. Some high energy experiments of Brookhaven. So. So. There were. There were pressures and it was felt that the reactor didn't. Offer. Unique. Capabilities that weren't available elsewhere. Because most of the work that was done there. Was transferred to the cave in or Oak Ridge. And then did people who were here go with not the president's users and they might have they might have sent one person to be resident places but. Then all the neutron diffraction got moved Doe created for example. He is a high flux beam reactor there or that they. Hyper. High flux of radiation right. And. I think. One technician with the equipment. But the professor stayed here on the faculty and then they may have been operated as users of another facility. And at that point you How long were you here at the. Well I left at 76. That's when I went to the Solomons. And I came back. For periods because I still had some people that. Were doing some work here. So I guess. I actually. Terminated. Coming back in early 78. Right about the time the. Director was shut down. And how how did you make the shift to Los Alamos. Oh that's that's a story that maybe is not appropriate to your history but. Los Alamos was always considered. Very. Very much the epitome of research in physics and and in other things. I mean the national lab concept is that you you get multidisciplinary approaches that you're not divided into departments so much as you are into. Subjects that you're. Working on. And so even though there were chemistry and metallurgy and things separated at Los Alamos they Matrix these people to work on a particular project. So from the I guess the time when I was in high school and so on the aura of Los Alamos was was really. High. And then. When I actually left as a graduate student I had I interviewed at Los Alamos. But at that time I was a close community. We had children and you had to wait for housing to be available before you could be hired. And that wasn't true. And I just went to industry in Littleton. The third day I was in my office I got a call from Los Alamos and asking for me to come there. Oh yeah. I told them you know I can't do that I just started another job. Oh my God. And then of course when I left that I interviewed again I was back here and about a week after I came back here I was offered an job in Los Alamos. Oh my goodness. From another guy. And so when when it came time to leave here. I looked into some other opportunities and then one of them including those homeless. And. Finally. A position opened up in Los Alamos. By that time the community was open and so on no longer had the same. Problems with being hired. So I went there. Then that's Los Alamos I'd always been kind of a let's say a center of the scientific universe. That's changed. Has that changed. Oh terribly. I mean it's as fraught with bureaucratic crap as any any place is now. Has that changed everywhere would him say ever. Oh yeah. You think of a question I wanted to ask you with was the work at the lab here. Well two questions about that. What Ames lab was part of the national lab system still is. So it's also multidisciplinary. Yeah. In the same way. I mean it's a little little less comprehensive. Some of the other lab and was the work being done here also a secret classified word or classification issues here. Not as not as intense as elsewhere. But. Yeah. So did you have a secure hallway. I had a swear clearance. Yeah. How was the. This might be a little bit afield field but but how was the work environment different at Los Alamos from here. Well Ames lab is rather small by comparison. You and I mean all songs has it's time we went even. Had something like eight thousand workers. And of those maybe 5000 or more. Staff people scientists now is probably up to 14000. And here you know you talk about hundreds. So first of all the thing is the Ames lab except. The reactor is contained in just a few buildings. Los Alamos has a big campus. It has 70 square miles. Of. Campus. And. So. There was a completely. Different type of work environment. What are some of the most. Just just thinking about your time here at the lab. The most exciting. Things that you remember. Well. Some of the work that we did at the reactor was really exciting. We were the. We did world class work. I'd say with with the study of Charlotte nuclei Charlotte 15 products. In my short lived I mean down to sub second. Those. Up. Until the time when we had our. Facility set up. It was a monumental effort to work on minute activities at other lavatories. Using Pneumatic transports and stuff like that. Doing. Bank windows stuff. But here we can do things what we called Online has these activities are in these nuclei fission products are produced. We could separate them and get down to sub second activities. As a result of our work here. There were facilities constructed. At. Least six other locations in the world. That. Were not necessarily based on our work. But but did benefit from what we'd done. So we did world class work. And that was. A great satisfaction. I think of the things that was most exciting here was the fact that we turned out 30 PHC students for example. In that project. And. That was my conversation and I'll always be proud of. You. And. Who when you had a particularly successful. Experiment or something who who could you tell that that would that would understand how exciting it was everything we did was was. First of all unclassified and secondly. We were. Always reporting at it at. Scientific meetings. We published. Something like. I don't know any papers or something like that. And. Our work would be you know they have they have. Nuclear Data. Compilations and we would submit to them and so forth. So people who understood people who understood what you were doing to be excited about. And I guess spending always remembered that we were the first people. To study what's called delayed neutron emission. From. Purified isotopes they call them separated isotopes. Of fission products and delayed neutron emission sounds sort of a funny thing. But it's what causes. A. Reactor chain reaction to be control level. Because the neutrons that that of decays are such high energy that. That instead of just being beta decays to daughter nucleus you'll also a met say a neutron. But it's delayed because of the half life of the decay. And so that allows you sometimes to react in position that controller for example. And it's not that much you know some of the murder I mean it's almost so in the most prolific delayed neutron emitters or 50 second half lives. So it gives you quite a bit of control edge. And without that you couldn't you couldn't have a reactor you know you'd have a. Critical reaction and. You'd really be on the edge and trying to control it. With this it's a feasible thing. And so spending understood that and the fact that we'd made measurements the first measurements in the world and separated isotopes of delayed neutron emission that were important in reactor control. He always thought that was a neat thing and we went to several international conferences and reported things like that. Yeah. So. That was probably as far as spending was concerned the significant thing as far as I was concerned it was just that we I think. Studied. For the first time something like. 30 nuclei. And they were important official product nuclei. Mm hmm. Oh that was my feeling of accomplishment. The delayed neutrons. You know people had looked on. Delayed neutrons before and had surmised where they came from what what the radioactivity is it came from but in this way we were able to assign them. Mm hmm. Did the results of that research then move from the research into commercial appetite for reactors were were well understood. No they didn't need to know what isotopes they just needed to know the time behavior the delay. You could do that without it. But but intellectually we were we were on the forefront. Yeah. So that's what's exciting. Must have been very exciting. Oh yeah. I was kind of neat. What. What were the most challenging things about the work. Would you say or most frustrating. Well handling the large amounts of data I guess. And we spent a great amount of time. You know computers at that time where we're really coming into four. They were by today's standards very slow computers. A laptop is capable of doing a lot more and they are able to do that. So most my graduate students were pretty proficient at the computer. And the postdocs and in handling the data and so on was was one of the biggest challenges. And in fact we developed some techniques that are in use today through the world on. The spectra the spectra decays that we studied. Were. Because of the short lived nature of them. I mean the amount of energy available on decay kind of determines the half life. And so the more energy you have the shorter the half life. The less energy the longer the half life. So all long lived activities weren't able to probe very high energies and in the daughter's period where the short lived ones were able to probe higher too. And. So our spectra are. Receiving. Hundreds of transitions and in the decay products. Whereas most of them earlier were seeing like 10 or 20. And so we had to be able to handle large amounts of data. And to make sense of it. I mean these transitions would take place between different energy levels of the product nuclei to be able to assign those you had to work numbers games that computers could do very nicely. That must have been a huge change. There was a big change. And so we we worked with people in Idaho Falls and and Livermore and so on with data analysis. And let's see how how you've continued to do this work that's very related to this. Well in a less direct way I mean I decided to leave Iowa State when the reactor was going to be closed. It was clear. And that's when I went to Los Alamos and to be honest there was no program like this at Los Alamos. So I had to branch out and do other things. So the first job I had there was in safeguards and there's a lot of anxiety in the world today about safeguards which really means. Verification of nuclear capabilities like Iran. Working on techniques and helping the International Atomic Energy Agency to be able to monitor operations like that. So then I I spent. Probably a third of my time in Vienna for the first year I was in Los Alamos helping them to develop a program and to send people to Los Alamos for training and writing reports and so on. But so I was a complete shift and I knew what what characteristics of nuclear decay and particularly heavy element had denied decays. One needed to monitor. And so I helped in some of that. And from there I went to critical assemblies work which was kind of interesting in the sense that that you need to know for example how much plutonium takes time to make a critical mass. And so we are measuring exotic isotopes per critical mass. I won't tell you which ones. Okay I assume so that must be some thoughts on. I was pretty heavily classified but it was it was very interesting work and I was head of the group there for that. It happened to be one of the older groups in Los Alamos because of course they need to know the critical mass of the uranium and plutonium to make the bombs. And in fact it killed a couple of people who were making stacking up these bricks and they slipped and made a critical mass and they didn't intend to and got the blue flash and nine. That was before you were there. So we are in the war. Yeah. And so as a result of that all these operations were were then done remotely. So we would hand start things until we got to a certain limit which was close to the critical mass but then to go beyond that we had to do things remotely. And then from there I went to nuclear chemistry which was closer to what I'd been doing all this time I had thought that that it would be neat to get dragged Los Alamos into the study of Charlotte nuclei. But the administrators there the administration changed quite a bit. And those people had other interests so I never did succeed in doing that. So actually I kept in contact with with people working in this field and now that I'm retired I'm I'm returning to do some technological development for it. But you have a new project that you're well starting on the old project. Actually the deal we funded. To to develop an experiment to be run up an accelerator in Canada. That would either prove or disprove a certain approach to making sure I. So you've been able to come back to the I've been able to sort of full circle and except in a different role instead of now doing the studies and doing the the nitty gritty physics interpretations on I'm I'm taking on a role that allows me as a retired person with no career ambition to set the stage for other people to follow. So that's that's self-satisfied. That must be satisfying. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Or you ought to say that this approach is a blind alley or whatever but that's that's something that that the younger people now just don't have time to do because they have to get a career going. So they are working on other things. And this give me a free rein and I'm I'm just in credulous that that I'm considered a world expert on and I don't understand the head at all. I don't know from the description here it makes sense to me. But anyway has been it's been a good life and the work that I did here in Ames I always have a fond spot for. Any other things that I haven't remembered I'll ask you about that you wanted to be sure and include. I don't I think that the full picture of what happened three actor may require that you you've talked to some other people but I'm not sure that there many others Raleigh stress comes to mind as one might be able to give you some. He was head of the engineering there so he would design all the equipment and such. Someone else mentioned his name too I bet. Sounds like a good down person to talk to right. And most of the people that were there then have gone or died. So. Yeah I was. That was 30 years ago I was shut down. So something a lot of. Lot of corporate memory is no longer around. And some the young whippersnappers corn and other fields so. And not not here I wish state and honor I tried to think of of who all else. With respect to the reactor you can talk to Taranto a lot I will talk with Tom Barton in a few weeks. Yeah and he wasn't directly involved in the reactor but he may know some things and I don't know about the perspective and so on. KIM LANDERS strategic perspective. Well just true from your perspective any any thoughts on kind of that that was a particular there was regular segment of time 30 years or so wasn't that all. No. Much less was 15 Christine. Just a particular little segment of time in the history of the Ames lab. Very productive very interesting. Clayton Swenson I've mentioned I I guess actually Doug Fenimore did some experiments out there I'm not sure how much these people were involved in some of the facilities set up as opposed to just being users of a facility that existed. Well looking at it from from a larger perspective that you you have seen the whole nuclear research system in parts and just looking at the Ames lab during that 15 years. Well how would you describe it in the context of the research community. Well I'd say we were we were in the forefront. We were doing world class work now because a lot of the things we looked at had been studied by us or by others. There's no longer any interest in that particular field of study. There is some but not very subdued and now nuclear physics have gone on to other things which you should know. I mean you can. You can beat a subject and then when you know everything. It's easy to find out about that subject. Maybe instead. Of. Pouncing on it even more more productive to go to some other subject and be the first with the simple experiments. As experimental science. We're very different now than it was then. Well I would say you. I mean the one one feature of the Ames Iowa but and of the Yale are is is that. The users were self-contained. They were within the community here. Now there is a big because facilities get larger and larger and larger and no large facilities are being built here. They're all being built elsewhere. Then that means that now people that don't exist these facilities are still interested in doing work there. They become users. And that's something that. That from the beginning here when the Zafer all started bringing in high energy physics staff they were all doing their work elsewhere. And that still exists but now even the nuclear forces are doing their work elsewhere and a great many of the solid state physicists sir are using light sources elsewhere to do to do some work that they need to do or or the neutron diffraction is being done elsewhere and so on. So the whole. Not just Iowa State but I'd say the whole. Research community at large is being transformed into a user community. I'm a user of the accelerator and drive up and bang Vancouver B.C. and surely have their own people that do work there. But but they also have users organization probably numbers 500 or so. And of course you see some of these high energy experiments now being built at CERN the large hadron collider in which people here are involved in their user group for one experiment. I have a thousand two hundred people in that. Oh my gosh yeah. That's hard to imagine. That to me I that's not the way I like to do things. I'm more of a tabletop guy I guess. All right in front of you. Yeah yeah. That's hard to imagine a thousand people. Yeah. Well I mean not alone we're gonna be working on the on the experimental results of the research results. Many of them are involved in the construction of experiments. But nonetheless they the they deserve credit for having done so. So you know you get these. These papers and they'll just say the the Atlas collaboration and then a spokesperson for it. Wow. That is very different yeah. Yeah. I remember when we when we talked earlier that you described that as workbench science. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we did. Really. Yeah but we're where we had control of things. These days you have been part of an organization. And if you're lucky enough to be the spokesperson or the chairman or whatever then you might have some control. But otherwise it's all done by committee. This is different. And it's getting that way in a lot of different areas. I mean my last year of those almost I was in a space sciences group and we were studying what satellites could do for studying environment and things like that and also some classified purposes. But that even there where the instrument was built in Los Alamos you had to conform to the wishes and and. Constraints offered by large community. So even though you were in control of the construction of the satellite that satellite wasn't jurors. Aha. So I mean that's the way science is going nowadays I think probably yeah maybe not just science but it could be the whole world. Well all the more reason to. Yeah. To capture some I decided to retire when I was going to do an experiment in Los Alamos and big accelerator there and to fill out an experimental plan. And one of the questions in the plan that one of the central questions of what do you expect to find out. My response was I don't know. And if I knew I wouldn't do it. Now let's put a stupid question with some turkey on some desk is is protecting his salary by dreaming up questionnaires like that. Oh. Yeah. So that was it. And that's that's the way of your bureaucracy is invading now. Things have changed. Yeah. Yeah well I did I do have I missed any questions or things that you want to make sure we include in the in the room No I rambled on probably. I really appreciate the all your time and I think this will be great. Great that you have a really good time on this and I look forward to reviewing. I was. 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