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Those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3929.38,3933.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then Jack Powell took over for Hagman. Jack","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3936.67,3940.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really. Dealt with appointments only. He didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3940.36,3945.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Have anything to do with the budget. But he did","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3946.12,3949.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help. With the budget. But. Del was primarily my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3949.21,3954.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go to guy but. Somehow. I don't work as smoothly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3954.41,3959.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as. It. Should. Oh those are. Those in closing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3962.08,3967.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just say that. This has been the oral history of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3971.98,3976.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Professor Bob and you see. Today is Tuesday March","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3976.39,3981.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"29 2011 and we are at Iowa State University","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=3981.28,3985.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405/transcript/21783/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professor Angeles's office. Will. Tell. 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Where. Are you ready. Okay. Well. I was born and raised in Rochester Minnesota. And. I attended Edison. Elementary school and that happened to be a part. Of the city that was not far from where lots of the doctors. At the Mayo Clinic. And so there were quite a number of kids in my classes that were doctors kids and of course. Strongly motivated to do well in the sciences and prepare themselves for. A career in medicine. Personally. Girls typically. Tended to shoot for. Nursing. Career. And the boys are all shooting for M.D. and quite a while. We had a fiftieth reunion about. Gosh there's about five years ago. And there were quite a few M.D. in there. Some of them stayed at the Mayo Clinic. Others. Moved to different parts of the country. And I ran across a few nurses that were in Addison Elementary School. But I think yes this environment and. In this school with all these doctors kids who. Were motivated. And interested in science is really kind of. Had a major impact on me as far as what I stand and what. What my eventual career turned out to be. My father actually migrated with his father to the States from Italy. When he was about five years old. And they settled in kind of Kenosha Wisconsin and. Wisconsin. And then they moved to Rochester. When he was. Early 20s. There. And he had a grocery store. And it was a relatively small grocery store. And he. Was a very he was a. Hard worker eager to be successful and did very well actually saw him so often he asked me at one point as I got to. In the car lives. He asked if I wanted to. Take over a grocery store because he was at the point where he had to decide. Whether to. Get a bigger store because the small was no longer. Viable or whether he'd just do something else. And so he came to me and asked. When he retires would. I be interested in taking over a new store as the manager. And I was. And chemistry at that point. I said No I'm not interested. And he respected that. There was no problem at all for him. So he just didn't get into the bigger supermarket. And he was just very supportive in terms of going to college even though he had only gone to the eighth grade. He. Recognized the importance of an education and he always. Expected me to go to college and of course. Going to school with all of these doctors kids with. That was my expectation as well. So there was just no doubt. About. What. I would do. And. I went to St. all of college and say you know I've had. A very strong chemistry department even. And. In fact there was. A chemistry faculty member that came to Rochester high school recruiting undergraduate students to go to St.. And. I was always impressed with them because he. He was a very. Hard drive. So they're so focused that chemistry and he was that way when I got to say no. It just. It was just a little over the top. So it. But. While it was a good program and. When. I graduated and. Decided to go into inorganic chemistry and I guess the major reason I went into an organic was that. Most of my classmates were going into organic and that she was and maybe that's a little bit. A sign of my personality. I just really. Can. Carve out my own direction. And if there is a wave moving in. Another direction with lots of people. That's not where I think I can make my biggest contribution. So. I just. Pick. In our organic. We had a very good and organic teacher which was. Undoubtedly part of the reason why I chose that direction. And so. At that time saying all of. You would. Have a meeting the faculty would meet with each graduating senior. And suggest schools that they go to based on their interests their abilities and so forth. And the two schools that. They suggested for me were Northwestern University. And Kansas had a very strong year. But at that point inorganic was not. You know not high and I have lots of universities. It. Was kind of like. Analytic goal maybe even a little worse than analytical at that point. So. We had visited Northwestern and the senior. Chemistry Club. Along with some industries in the Chicago. Kind of. Chicago. Milwaukee area. And it's a nice place to sit down and lay down all of this. And I thought it was a good place plus Fred but so had written. At that time. Book mechanisms and inorganic chemistry. And. That and the influence paid to Northwestern. And I never visited Kansas. I. Don't know. The possibilities or. There. So I went to say no. Then. After graduating from say no if I spent a summer. Working at Abu Abbott Laboratories before going to Northwest in grad school. That's where I met. Elizabeth. She was. A chemist actually working an electron microscopy. Lab which was part of the. The. They called it the physical chemistry lab. And. So she did electron microscopy honestly and. While we got. Together and. After my first year in graduate school we got married. And. Well I was in graduate school a total of three years. I joined. The Solas group basically after the first year. The solo was there the second year. But he was on sabbatical during the third year. So he and I really overlapped only one year. And so. In a sense. I was not as. Connected to. The so as maybe the typical graduate student is just because he wasn't around. In fact I waited. For him to return from his Italian sabbatical. So that I could graduate. And that turned out to be well. Toward the end of September. So. This was in 1960 to the fall of 62. And that's when I went to. University of Munich. For one year and this was on a. NSF. Postdoc fellowship. Where do the fisher. At the University of Munich. Although he. A year or two after that move to. The technician. Sure. Because they were building this new facility out in Oregon. So at any rate. We. Went to Munich. It was just a great experience gave us the. Perspective of the world. That was very different than we had before. We. Had to have that interaction and make good friends and it was a very it was a very vital time in terms of. Know Fisher and inorganic or mentality chemistry. And. There was just he had a large group of 35 people or so. And people is. It was a good year and. He had patterned. Diagnosing chromium and with the money he bought the. Chalet up in the mountains just. In. Well not quite. It was just over the border in Austria. And so he would take his group there typically twice a year and. It was big enough to hold thirty five people. That was not a small shell. So it was great that it was a really good year. And of course. It was a period in the early 60s when universities were expanding all across the world really. Sputnik happened in Europe in the late 50s. And so. Science was growing pretty fast and. This meant there were lots of open faculty positions not only in this country but also. In Germany. So many of the people that. I was in the lab who had. Moved into academic positions and all of the universities. So those have. Been nice contacts. Over the years. OK. So I was in Germany when I started looking for a job in the States. Actually before I went to Germany. I somebody had come well Overland had come to Fred so I asked. If. He had any students that were interested in teaching. And. Fred said Well Bob might be interested. And so. I actually went out in an interview in Berlin. And. They made me an offer. And I said Gee. You know. It's an awfully good place to be. And it's. Something that appeals to me a good deal. But I think I'd like to see if I could make it a. Bigger place where I could do research and. So they said OK we'll wait until you're ready to decide. And so. That was that until almost a year later that. I said no. Wow. So they they were. Course this was. When there weren't many in organic faculty around. And so they were all. It was a good time to be looking for a job. In that field. And. I'd get well I had an offer at the time of course all this was done by snail mail. I. Crossed the ocean where it was. Airmail. But it would take a couple weeks to get a letter back and forth and. The solo was really my contact. So he would always. Write a letter and say well there's an opening at the University in Chicago. And then he would say well there's some good people there and. It might be a. Good place to consider. And he did this with other universities and as it turned out. I. I received an offer from Chicago. Also from Illinois at Champaign Havana. But Fred's. Really looking for a solid state in our cameras and. They said. You may or may not be interested but he would kind of fill me in and then what what the details of the position or in my. Chicago apparently was. A good place certainly a good place. Especially in physical chemistry. But. But we knew the reef the area of Chicago. Having lived in Northwestern. And we decided that we just didn't want to deal with those kinds of issues. And so that. Was taken off the list Tufts. University is a smaller place and there was as much. Research activity. So. That point off the list. But Fred seemed to like Iowa State. He's he's. You know they've got the Ames lab there and they've got money. And he said that's really an important consideration. And so and we ran into somebody in Germany that. Said they had visited Ames and. He said. He couldn't remember much about the city except that there were lots of trees lying in the streets. They must have come a. Grand Avenue was out for one of those. So that sounded at least it wasn't. As negative as. One might have. So it was really at that. That was the reason that I picked Iowa State. I interviewed and none of these places. They none of them. Brought candidates from that far. Oh. Really. I had one phone call. From Iowa State. And Adrian Dailey was. The caller. Charlie Getz was the chair at that time. But he had some health issues. And was not. Active in the chair. So I think Adrian. And Bob Hansen. Both were kind of involved. In Australia's. Side of things. So at any rate I decided to accept that. Offer and they had never seen me I had never seen them. And. That's. Just the way it was. The same year that I was hired. Jim aspirants and it was. Fred friends and he was. And Chuck Kingsbury was hired. He was an organic chemist and. That was eventually decided not to tenure. He went to the University of Nebraska and. Did. Very well and has been there. I think he's still teaching as a matter of fact. He retired. But. He can't. Like me. Can't stay away from the fire. So it was the four of us that were hired that that one year. And Jim Aspen. And Fred were both taken into the Ames lab. And. Chris Kingsbury and I were not. And. Three. Years later I was Tiger Harris back and he said wow he always feels badly about. The way. I didn't get into the games and support. He said it was decided by flipping a coin whether you or I go back at. They fired them. So that's. Apparently how they decided and the Ames lab was a very big deal at that point because they had. Lots of money. In fact at that point they contributed. To the department because there were so many graduate students that were. Performing research in the lab and so spending on felt. That you know we want to get good graduate students and we want to have a good program for those students. So the Ames lab paid part of the. Seminar program. And they also basically. Employed one of the. Secretaries. So they paid her full salary. And this was the one that was mostly involved in graduate recruiting. And so that was you know part of their contribution. And well things changed. Course over the years but especially and felt very strongly that. Graduate students were really important to the success. Of the lab. And of course they were. You know when when those things changed Ames landfall now at some point. Well yeah when I was chair of the department from. 1977 to 81. And things began to slide at that point the secretary that was paid. By Ames lab that was with John. Carson. Economically in the country. It was a tough time. Well. When they compare. The current. Recession with the previous bad recession it's always 81 82. In that. Period. Jimmy Carter was. President. At that point. And. It was stagflation was what they called at that point. But there was really a tough time in. The country. And. Of course. The. State governments got here. And the federal government. Was. Cutting back. And so that's what we lost both the sacred there. As well as the seminars. At that point. Also. Prior to that time we. Had a lot more T.A. support. So we're taking about two hundred and thirty graduate students and. In the 60s. That number. Slowly began to decline especially. In the early 70s when. There was another recession in the early 70s. Number of students entering graduate school and you can see that from the numbers. Declined in chemistry. Because. The jobs just weren't there and. Seven days for. Four cameras there are lots of people for that matter. So at any rate it was. There were these changes. In the country that were causing cutbacks. In the number of teachers were cut back. We used to have all the new graduate students who would come in the 1st of July. And through July and August they were paid regular full salary. In a way that well for the for teacher training as it was so that they would do lots of practice teaching they would work. Many of the experiments in the freshman chemistry labs knew what they were. Talking about when they got into the lab. But then that was cut back to I think August 1st is when. They started. Coming. At that point. In the early 80s. And then of course that was cut back even further after that. But. Really all the budgets got here really hard. In that period. And there were years when there were no salary increases. And. I always remember a time with Bill Bratton. Years later about I said for those salary increases ever. Picked up later on or increased. And they said yeah there were 14 percent increases back in the late 80s I guess. So. There were some good years. In that. Period. Oh gosh I got you off track. I'm darling. Oh days we or I'd be and I'm just kind of rambling. And. We're. Talking about how you weren't. Taken into the science when you first. Oh. I mean for me I didn't realize the difference. For me. I was. I was. Just. Doing what I had to do. I noticed one of the questions was mentoring. What kind of mentoring that I received when I first came to get any advice. No I really didn't. I mean Jim assignments and we'd get together periodically. Talk about how things were going and. To some extent verkaik. And. And then years later go out vacation I used to play tennis and. Then later Dave Hoffman and I used to play squash and. All through this period. Really from the time that I came by. The pressure and this is going to require that I have some way. Of. Releasing it. And. I always kind of enjoyed. Sports not serious. Halfway. I just played golf. I was on the golf team. In high school and I'd say no. But actually I didn't play much golf just because it. Took so much time to play golf. Once I got here I was they. Just. I just didn't take that. I've gone back to it a little bit since then but not. Too seriously once. But. I I started jogging back an hour in. Vail. Shortly after I came and. So I jogged up until the. 80s when my back started by hiring me. And I. Started walking. And so I'd been walking. And. Using the access I go ever since then and I still do. Just as a way of keeping. And. Semi reasonable. Shape. Let's see in the early 60s. Well when I came Brandel was here and he died one month after I got here. So I never really met. But Larry Bartell tell here. Correspondence and Harry's. Home or fast or that. AIMS lap crew. And they are really a smart bunch of people. Actually. I was I was impressed that. My first few faculty members. When we voted on various policies and changes in the. Department that my vote counted exactly the same as some of these guys that have been around for a long time. And I didn't really I realize that you know I didn't understand these issues like they did. But somehow I got the same vote. That. They. They did. But. There were quite a number of people. In the 60s and 70s. That had fairly strong personalities and. It meant that faculty meetings were pretty contentious affairs and. Often on the other hand they seemed to be eager to deal with difficult issues although they were a real struggle. And. Oh in the early 70s. Harry Gray had suggested that all the courses be reorganized there would be. Chorus and dynamics with the. Chorus and synthesis which would include both organic and inorganic. There would be course. Thermostat while fermented dynamics I guess. And. I forgot and there was one other area but it was basically to reconfigure. The way we would touch chemist and so we dealt with some of these issues and eventually didn't do anything. But Vicki came along with. These generator or orbitals and he said you know these are really useful and to some extent. Well Clowes. Rittenberg and Dave Hoffman. They the three of them ended up writing a book. Generator of our models. And John said you know our students really ought to know how to construct molecular orbitals. Rather than using group theory. Why don't we just simply. Use this simple math in using the symmetry of our results. And so it was finally introduced. As Special Topics cause. An elective course for seniors. And. Attracted some students but not very many. And so then it was pulled into the inner yeah cause. Junior and senior level and so it became part of that cause. And then finally dances you know this is really simple are freshman freshmen and the learning. Stuff. And so a chorus is created. In the spring semester of the freshman year to teach. Generator orbitals basically binding and that sort of thing. Jam generator orbitals were. Part of it. And so this is a pretty dramatic change for a lot of people. You know. What's the big deal. Generator orbitals are the after you know it starts out as a senior level course ends up as a freshman guard that the core of the program. And cast there were a lot of disagreements about this thing but eventually it went through. And so we ended up with. A generator orbitals. They did work fine. But then people. Began to think we really need to get some more. Visitors regular physical chemistry and these guys in their freshman year. And so that. Band eventually got a job done. But. They were willing to. At least. Deal with a. Rather major change. In. Curriculum because it meant all the other courses had to. Kind of adjust. To. Having lost that. That. Time. So what. Was one. Contentious issues. Yeah that was a contentious issue for sure. And. As I say there were some strong personalities that. No. One would walk out of the faculty meeting. I may have. I remember that happening a few times even after early 80s the early 80s that were slamming. People just yelling at each other. I mean that doesn't happen anymore. Yeah thank goodness. Well in this sense I don't know whether we. Hired people that are. More cooperative. Or less strong personalities. Or whether people realize especially these days when collaboration is a big deal. You can't. Do those things. But. At that point. Prima donnas were. Pretty. Standard part of the chemistry department and even here. And that and there were some really well known people in the department. Hired me deal and. Brando and. Wells fact was Elmer Faso. I mean there were no horrible Chapman and organic. That were getting offers from. Various places and they played. Pretty hard to keep. You mentioned that Charlie Getz was chair when you were hired. Did you see much more. I really didn't. Because he. He was. Not healthy really. From. The time before I came. In fact he. He came back to teach analytical chemistry. After I was here. And he. Really didn't do well. And so he I think he went on disability. At that point. But he was. At least from the stories that I. Hear was a very and had his ideas about how that department. To be run. And in fact. Probably John Carter is the guy. To. Talk with. Gets in those. Days. Because. And Johndroe came for them. Knew. About. Charlie's. Interests. As. Well. OK. I don't know where I want to go from here. I. Well I guess one thing I should say is that. The. Activities. Well that the department just seemed to be a lot. More. Vital. In those in the 60s. There were a lot of students came and. They were all actually quite a few new professors that came because this was the period. When they were hiring. And on Saturday as you know all the doors had been open and everybody would be working. I was. I would. I started out working nights and. Saturdays and Sundays. And it was the first Thanksgiving when my wife. Said you now this has got a check. And so. There was at that point when I decided that I would not come in the news occurs I always worked at night. At home. But I always came in Saturdays because. Even to the point where I retired but. There were no faculty in the department that were here. Late at night every night. And they would go out for beer afterwards. At ten or eleven o'clock at night and then come in the next day and do it all over again. And. I think. Well things. Well. Generations change. And. I think over the years probably starting in the 70s things began to. Slide somewhat. But then when I became chair. In 77 there were rumblings about changing the Thursday night seminar. Because we had seminars over the years there. Was the. Name. And attendance was beginning. To wane. And. So we had a faculty meeting to decide whether we should change it or not. And there were. Some faculty that felt pretty strongly that we should. And so it was changed to I think it was Monday. Afternoons. Were. The time and it was then later. Was. Moved. To Friday. But that was kind of a sign of the times. This was. Around nineteen. Eighty. And. It was. Things were. Shifting. And. Purse around my wife Elizabeth said. There's the social side. Department. To. Dementia. She'd read this list of questions. And. Of course that's quite different now than it was at that point. Because. There was this club Cam wives that. You know I suspect. And rarely they get together now I see. But it was a pretty it was a. Going organization. So. When we first came to town 63. We got dinner invitations from lots of people and lots of faculty members just to. Welcome us and get to know them. So. My wife knew all the other wives and then part of this came wives club. They they would meet. They'd go out to lunch and various things. On their own. But the chair of the department would. Always schedule some kind of social functions. Even when I was chair. Every fall. We had all of the faculty members over to our house one evening for social room. Together. And then. We would also have the staff. People in chain stores and. So forth over to our house and on several occasions. As well. But. There. The wives kind of. Was the group it. Was you know the nucleus of the social. Activity. But then. In the 70s when the women started working. And. At that point things began to. Fall apart at the seams. And. So there were some wives that were working and the other wives that. Weren't working. For and excited about doing all of the social activities and so that all basically disappeared. And so. My wife. Doesn't know many wives they've come into the department. You know. Since. Well the early 80s was a stay at home. Mom. Now when she first came she worked in. BMV. And an electron microscopy. So she she worked. Maybe half time. In Evans right. And you may not. Know. But she was on the faculty. At that time. And so she she. Did. Micro tomes six S.A. and. Electron microscopy and. Various biological. Samples. But she worked. Until. Well Scott was born and sixty. Four. And she continued working after this guy was born and then. Karen came in 68. And she. Was. Decided to give it up with that pie and so she and she stayed at home. Pointed out. So. So she was one of the typical wives. I guess that. Was the stay at home. Mother. That. Yeah. What else. What was it like to get tenure. What did you feel that you had to get tenure or what do people tell you you had to do to get tenure. I don't know if we really knew what was necessary. Everybody just worked really hard expecting that they had to do. Well in teaching as well as in research. And. So everybody. Just. Worked. Very hard. There were. That. Well in fact. We let the senior faculty members met once a year. In the spring. And I think it was. To decide. Who was going to be promoted and who was not. We never knew when that meeting was. Those of us that were younger. And. There were no external reviews. No letters from that. Wow. Nothing like that. The only reason. That. I was tipped off. One year. Was that. Little Boy and Harris. Sat in the last row of my freshman chemistry lecture. This must make 17 guy. But we had no idea when the meetings were or what the deliberations or anything like that. I. Remember. Once. And. Well. It must have been 67 something along and there. That I thought. I was interested in graduate recruiting and I said. You know if we had a symposium. Here and I was they would bring in students from undergraduate. Colleges around here. And for them to have posters. And we'd have a speaker that was the kind of highlight of. The week and. That it would be a good way of promoting these kinds of contacts with. The smaller schools for. Recruiting purposes. So. I just said do it. Well I talked with some other faculty members and they said Yeah that's a great idea. Go ahead and do it. And so I decide to do it. Had posters made up and sat out all those schools. Contacted the faculty members and. Told them what we were doing. And. So I did this for about three years and. After the first year I remember going in to see Bob Hansen who was chair. I said. Should I be doing this sort of thing with my time. This is before I was promoted or should I be. Doing. Spending this time. On the research activities. And he said. I don't really know. It's just I decided to freeze out some faculty may think it's a good thing. Others motivated. There was this stuff here that is. So I do for a couple years after that. And I think it was a good way actually building these kind words at a time when there were lots of. Undergrad Graduate symposia. And in fact I don't think there are that many now. I think students might. Very well want to use their poster a couple times so that if they went to. One to go to another one. But at any rate I mean a fair amount of time that. So I have no idea how that affected the. Tenure decision. But. Jim. Parsons and I came up at the same time and. We were. Both promoted but still I had no idea. When the meeting was or what they considered. Routinely we would just update our file. But that was. We were. And. The two of you would be compared and. You know. It would be a winner. I was not. I was I guess my view was well I. Do my best. However it came out well. We just deal with the results. At that point. But. I know of others that. Or a lot more. Worried than. I was. Maybe I was just naive and. Didn't know. The difference. So Dana right. That was a fairly simple process. Not always tenure to our business or outside ladders or anything they just and I'm not sure how they. Made the decision probably. I'm not sure whether all these. External reviews and whatnot they're all. Worthwhile. I don't know. Any other questions about. Well I'll say when we cheer again. What year. Seventy seven. Eighty one. OK. And you've spoken about the budget difficulties during the. Years. Are you what are you most proud of. Actually. Or. Have you forgotten. I've forgotten a lot too much of it is best left forgotten. I guess the thing that I was. That I worked really hard at was to try. To keep graduate recruiting strong. As it turns out we didn't hire many people during. Those four years in fact I think there were only two that were hired. And neither one of them made tenure. I mean there were cases personality issues that they. Didn't. But. I. I don't know how it was just. It. Was an interesting. Time. Well one thing I might mention is that. The number of foreign students in the department was really. Almost. Nonexistent. There was very low. Up to that point there were some Iranian students that. Came in Iran. This was before the revolution was. Actually they came. I think just before I became. Chair and they were mostly undergraduate students actually. Because I remember dealing with a. Telephone problem there used to be telephones in the hallways. There weren't any. Telephones in the individual research labs. And the Iranian students. Somehow figured out how to use those telephones to call Iran. And so we would regularly get a bill in the desire for thousands of dollars. For these cars even though the phones are set up not to make any long distance calls. So we had this. Ongoing battle with the phone company that guys the phones and that's. The reason why they've since been moved into laboratories. But. When I was chair of the first delegation. From China. And there was. A group of three or four Chinese from. Chapman. University and they were visiting selected universities around the US. Trying to make. Connections. And. They said that they could provide transportation for the students to come over. If we could pay them while they were here. And we just had no money. And I mean it was really difficult budget time. And the number of teenagers is being cut back plus. The anguish of. The students from China was really. Pretty bad at that point. They weren't studying. English as. A language at that point in fact is. This delegation. From China. It was really difficult for. US to understand them. One of them had gotten his PHC and the 40s. From Ohio State. And so he did really all of the time. But we had them over. For dinner at our house. And Dan Zafer R.A. and his wife and. John McCain. And I'm not sure. Whether he had some weather one with them at that point or not but. I remember that the conversation was lagging because people don't understand. And so after dinner okay. That was the one that challenged. Dan to playing show piano piece. A two and prayed with the piano. And so. They were rather amazing because. John got up first and played those five minutes. So all by heart. There was no music. And. Dance as well. I mean do one different you go up and play. Something different. And John Guy played another version of us and they both went through about three pieces. All from memory all six pieces were different. But there was this kind of a magical way certainly saved real bad for. As far as conversation stage was. Was concerned. But then that outcome of that was that there were no Chinese students that came. At least. In that. Year. But of course. And it was. It was difficult really. Because the visa issues to have Chinese come here plus Chinese were not letting their students out. So they were really special. Arrangements that allowed Chinese students to leave the country. Apparently and one of the criteria was. If you had a relative in the state. That you could. Do you would be granted. Permission to leave China. I think German are encouraged this is when Jim was chair he said well he got a. Letter from a Chinese student asking if he would be his uncle. Chris James is a Chinese. Decided it was good for them and everyone wanted to go. OK. What else is there. What stage of your career did you enjoy the most. Giving. What part did you like best if you like writing papers or working in the lab or. Talking with Steve. Well you know as most faculty members I didn't or my jet my except for the first three years. And so that was very rare because it. Didn't do much of it. I really enjoyed teaching especially. In the early years and. In those early years. There was a connection between students and. Teachers that. Doesn't exist. At least in my experience as one gets older and. I mean there were just lots of nice notes from the students and kind of and that was the class. There were just lots of. Students come up and. Talk about. Chemistry. But as the especially in my later years I think it. Became more difficult to connect. With the students. And. That was. One reason why I thought it was a good time. To retire. When I did. So I really enjoyed. Teaching. Really at all levels and I think. I really enjoyed research. I enjoyed the graduate students. They were just fun to work with. And. The. Character the group changed. Depending on who was in the group. There were some that were. Very social minded that we would go out there and pizza. When somebody gave a seminar. Somebody passed and or somebody had some special birthdays and you know there were all these. Social organizers in the group and then there were other times when. Nobody was interested. Usually it was a woman that was in organizational mode that. Facilitated those kinds of. Activities. So. At any rate I I really enjoyed. The mix of. Teaching as well as. Research. Any funny stories to end with. The anecdote. You put in a few really nice ones already. Oh I see. No. Not really. Those that I've mentioned. Are there any other things that they should. Oh I was going to mention. That. Being a chairman. At that time of course the chair positions were for four years each. And. Although I think. Round Carly had it for years. He was ahead of me. Just. Ahead and. Curve it I think out of four or five is before final. But the. The. Well the procedure was the same. When I came in as it is now survey the faculty on this business. And then negotiate with the dean of training. To be. Left out of the job. As it was at that point and when I became chair that I negotiated for an associate chair and so it was at that stage that. The. Dave Hoffman became my associate chair. Well it turned out to be yeah. And one of the big issues at that point. Because we had gone through a. Really difficult. Tenure and promotion case. In the department. And I. Became chair kind of in the middle of it it was an appeals day that. That point. And there were lots of issues about well what are the requirements for promotion. And there were no tenure P.A. documents at that point. And so. Dave Hoffman. I asked. To. Work this thing out to. Put together a document. He worked with Neil Harlow over in economics who was an attorney. And also. Apparently had gone through the same process in his department. But of course there are differences. For chemistry. And. But they did a really nice job. Pulling that together. We have. Many many faculty meetings. Dealing. With. Promotion and. Promotion and. So that was. Kind of one of the. Big issues that I had. Mentioned earlier. Thank you for laying that groundwork. I think we basically follow that document. I mean. Even today. I I think it's basically the same. They. Mostly. Shepherded through the faculty. So at any rate I think maybe that's probably an oh one other thing I was going to mention. Is that. When I became chair I was pretty naive. Well I was really naive and. You know dealing with budgets and. Personnel matters and the secretaries you know. Were. Just a whole lot of squabbling between secretaries and. So we got into. In fact at that point the head secretary was. I negotiated with the dean to promote her to a senior. Level. And that has since been reversed but the head secretary was then in charge of. All of the other secretaries and. And. I just didn't want to deal with all of these squabbles between the secretaries and whose. Workload was. Greater than somebody else's. Their. Office plays all kinds of things. But there were personnel issues as well as budget issues that. I have to admit I was that really. Prepared to deal with. So it would have been useful if there were some kind of. Short training period for. Her at least for me. Perhaps for you and others it was. More. Obvious. But. That was. A thought as far as improving the. Administrative. Duties. Of the chair. When I was chair I relied on Bill Bratton. Enormously. He was the voice of experience and. He knew about all the finances that. Was. He was there when you were you know he was in fact Charlie Hagman was. The chair of that chair. But he was basically in Bill Griffin's position. And he was a former principal. High school I think. When I first came. We were expected to work four hours a day Saturday. That was part of the point. And. Haggard. Would. Come around. They are facing a check to see if they were in their offices on Saturday morning. So here was a real. Ned Parker and and they you know he kept track of appointments in the budget and things like that but he was such a busy body. In terms of his. Oversight of. The department. He rankled a number of people. But. Charlie retired when I was chair and. I replaced him with. Jack Paar because we had an accountant. Donald. Kirk was his name. And he was in Rene's office but he basically. Was the accountant and. Took. The place of Nancy. But he was also. Had to do with all the budgets in the department. So I dealt with all kind of. Those things. But then Jack Powell took over for Hagman. Jack really. Dealt with appointments only. He didn't. Have anything to do with the budget. But he did help. With the budget. But. Del was primarily my go to guy but. Somehow. I don't work as smoothly as. It. Should. Oh those are. Those in closing just say that. This has been the oral history of Professor Bob and you see. Today is Tuesday March 29 2011 and we are at Iowa State University professor Angeles's office. Will. Tell. You I get a copy of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35370/file/104405#t=0.0,3993.41714"}]}]}]}