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She lives in Ottumwa. And her name is Hilda Wilson. You know, she worked at the college. 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I visited her every ev.ening after we'd walk home together because she lived on Spring Street and I lived on. 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And the reason they moved from north West to 511 Second Avenue was because Momma bought the house at 411 First Avenue. You see the house at 511 had been given to Mother by Mumford. My mother had taken care of Mumford. 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I think the man's name was who wanted Mother to have the house at 411 and so he was instrumental in seeing that she got that house. 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Kind of in the neighborhood. 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I don't even know where she worked. I know she must have maybe she didn't work. 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