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And how did that how did that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3655.81,3658.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1079","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make you feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3658.69,3659.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1080","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think probably. I can't. I'm worried. I'm not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3674.61,3678.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1081","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quite sure why I would get these awards. The last","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3678.3,3681.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1082","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one just that. The Distinguished Service Award is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3681.54,3684.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1083","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still don't understand that. And I don't know why","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3684.02,3686.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1084","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was done. Maybe I was getting older and I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3686.94,3690.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1085","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to like you for a lot of time into it. To","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3690.34,3693.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1086","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the group so. Oh yes yes I have. 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So I mean the first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3698.59,3702.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1089","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"four award which was that John Benny Public","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3702.76,3705.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1090","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Service Award. 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Working with all the states doing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3711.94,3714.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1093","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuff with the World Health Organization that sort","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3714.28,3716.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1094","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of thing. But that's one that I got last spring","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3716.14,3719.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1095","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Distinguished Service Award. I just was amazed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3719.83,3722.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1096","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't expect it. 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Has that made life","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3732.21,3734.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1099","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"easier or you know. Because basically you can talk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3734.31,3736.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all about some of the issues you deal with. 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My major goal was to make sure he got tenure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3740.91,3743.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I suspect that really your job to you know I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3743.49,3746.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spent a lot of time editing papers editing theses","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3746.4,3751.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuff like that after all I'm very traditional in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3751.02,3754.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my perspective on women's roles and so women do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3754.8,3758.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everything they work and they do all this stuff","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3758.61,3760.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was very important for me I suspect for not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3760.82,3764.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"such great reasons that I had respectability. 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Yes I do. But I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3784.3,3788.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"telling you all sorts of terrible things and now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3788.39,3790.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in retrospect I'm saying why did I dump all this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3790.25,3794.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuff out instead of being more circumspect in my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3794.51,3797.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's obviously things you've been thinking about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3797.7,3799.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I think it's something that you as you start","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3799.67,3801.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"looking at your life. 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How could you take this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3930.03,3932.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"top five thousand dollars a year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3932.73,3934.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she just didn't understand what she is very proud","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3938.49,3940.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of him especially when he was very successful. 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How is it like being married to a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=3959.64,3963.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chemist. 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It's really hard for anybody man or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4021.65,4025.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"woman because today's environment is extraordinary","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4025.73,4029.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"competitive. 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It's a very tough choice to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4059.96,4063.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make. Always. Yes. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4063.83,4066.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gale force mom is a grant writer. 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We have a board of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4133.46,4137.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professionals won't have a board of an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4137.63,4139.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"organization all of whom are health care","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4139.73,4142.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professionals who work 60 hours a week. 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So see the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4150.23,4153.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"president is the head of the main hospital Council","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4153.41,4156.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and she's just done understands nonprofits which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4156.92,4160.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was another question is does she keep her ending","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4160.95,4162.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up so we're seeing or talking about all of us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4162.92,4164.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"moving away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=4164.63,4165.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916/transcript/36666/annotation/1228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And everybody agreed that they did. 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And this is an interview with Dr. Jindal. And would you like to tell me a little bit about where you grew up and your family life. You mean past and present family life. We'll start with the past and then we'll come up to either grow up in a small town in western Wisconsin. My father was in labor in the railroad and my mother had a variety of jobs including probably the most long term but she worked as a telephone operator in the times before everything was automated. And I went to the middle grade school my three room schoolhouse for the first eight grades and then I went to a small high school in Hudson and the town was I would say at the time that I was there it was all working class people the Chicago Northwestern railroad was a major employer. The shop closed down lots of people were out of work a refrigerator manufacturing company moved into town. And that did provide some employment. There was as I look at things in retrospect a high incidence of alcoholism high incidence of dysfunctional families et cetera which go with a lot of people being fairly impoverished economic stress. Right. Very few people at that. I mean after all in my generation in small towns from blue collar families went to college. So most of my classmates did not. How many were in your order. Only about 45 people in my graduating class from high school. How many were in your grade school. A small. Oh my. Yes. Because the grade school fed into the that I lived in a little town called North Hudson which was separate from the larger community of Hudson. So Hudson was about 3000 people North Hudson was probably about 650. It had its own grade school and it was just a three room schoolhouse with three teachers. So multiple grades were together. So when I went to high school I can't remember the total population in high school but our class was uniquely small. And I'm not quite sure why. And we had very few males in the class as well. So it was it's always interesting to reflect back upon that so that I moved into this environment and those of us who came from Northwest Hudson were kind of viewed as probably in some keeping with their own wing of this poor country because but I was able to I got good grades and it was I remember that my first semester in high school when I was a freshman I was the only student in the school to get straight A's and that immediately set me apart. Did you take any science classes and when you were in secondary school or on K through 12 anytime. Well I took chemistry I took some biology I took some very poor quality science courses. Did they pick your interest or. I think the science teachers wanted me to go on in science. I did not do things for any good reasons. There were no advisers there were no folks asking you know you weren't thinking about what you wanted to do when you grow up. I did not even I took some of these exams for scholarships. I didn't perform well and see that because I wasn't basically smart enough but also I had. There was just no competition in the class so there wasn't any. I know this is gonna sound weird but as you look back upon it there wasn't anybody you know it was just so easy. School was so easy compared to other people who struggled and without competition without stimulation from your classmates. It's kind of a different environment. I mean I compare that to our children's experience at the high schools here in Madison where they essentially had the equivalent of college courses. By the time they graduated from high school and they were competing with kids who were really smart they saw a lot of difference in what you do and you you'll find Martha Case's backgrounds absolutely so different than mine. Now did your parents expect you to go to college. Did they encourage your studies. My parents my father I think finished eighth grade. My mother did not. I think I think she may have as well neither of them finished high school but it's one of these funny things where I was just I learned I was an ease. I learned easily in school I did not know at that time I wasn't cognizant of that but I am now that I just was an easy and the kids I went to school with were not interested in school and they were had had challenges often. This is such a different environment than than exists today where we were so unsophisticated. But I do remember my first grade teacher my first second third grade teacher Margaret Hannah was her name and one of the things that we learned was to read and write. We had no kinds of enrichment. We used to listen to music on the radio and we had some little tambourines and other things to play it. You know it sounds so almost like another century but it is possible in that environment to learn to read and write and that's the most important thing of all right. Especially for the people that the price day their thought their whole lives go down. Yeah well maybe not everybody learned to read make and then even though my father was not educated. I remember and I had come from a very dysfunctional family and we may not go into all of that but I do remember my father taking me to the public library when I was just a very little girl so that I began to go to the library and read books in the library with you know two or three mile walk. We didn't have a car because we couldn't afford a car. Did you have siblings. I have a brother who is almost six years younger than I and he had a horrible time at school. I think he's dyslexic in our time reading and the poor guy. Also I realize that just back was always compared to his for whom everything was so easy. Now how did you end up going to college. I guessed it was kind of just expected because I was you can get in the high school. I just I didn't realize it at the time but I just was different. I just kind of stood out and then I also at that time was a faithful Presbyterian. And so I had some very interesting influences in my life. I had an aunt Aunt Stella my father's sister in law who lived in a little town on the other side of the St. Croix River because it's a river that separates St. Paul Minnesota Wisconsin and I used to go visit her and it was there that I learned some manners because my aunt was kept a nice house. They have nice things. And I learned some proper table manners and a different kind of life than I personally experienced. I never. But please don't misunderstand because I was I always knew that my parents loved me dearly but I always felt sometimes and this was especially true when I got in college when I sort of mother to my mother and father in St. Louis first. So it was it's kind of funny when you look back upon that environment it was rich in that we lived out away from town in wonderful area with lots of wildflowers and real life and everything. And I had to live in a crowded tenement in the big city. I mean if you are very poor and you are in an urban environment with crime and all that. It's a whole different thing than when you live in a small town. And even though you're very poor you don't know you're poor and compared to other people you weren't that poor. And then you just happen to have the good fortune to be able to do well in school. So you applied to McCallister did you apply anywhere else. I applied to the University of Wisconsin and was accepted. The reason I applied to McAllister was because it's a Presbyterian college and my pastor Reverend Dr. Wright of The Church strongly recommended I go to McAllister it was not a bad choice. The other thing was that I really felt that I should not go far away from home because I felt very responsible for the chaos in my family etc.. So I think it was however the fact that at that time I was a pretty loyal Presbyterian. And I'm not anymore that was the reason why I chose that college because the rights were convinced it was a good school a good environment. And if I'm gone to be raised in Wisconsin and had to go far away. How far was the trip from your. I happened to take the bus is to take the bus to St. Paul and then the streetcar from the bus station to the college. And how did you like McAllister when you got there. You lived in you lived in a dormitory not the first couple of years I lived off campus which set me apart. I found myself suddenly in an extraordinarily competitive environment and I was not adequately prepared for the competition with in science and math with the people who had gone to Minneapolis high schools. So you know I saw another part of life. It was a very rich environment. There were people there from all countries of the world. And why I majored in chemistry. Because I can ask how that happened. I think there's a lot of this wanting to escape my environment also deciding to study something that would be a challenge me it's something to prove. I don't know. It was a dumb decision in retrospect dumb had you taken chemistry taking chemistry in North Hudson. Not in North Hudson Hudson in high school. Okay. There was no science in the great schools. So basically when you got to McAllister You just started taking. I declared myself to be a chemistry major which was from the beginning. Yeah and I think I was influenced by a science teacher that I had in high school. Again the teachers are always looking to influence students and maybe it's not done in the wisest way. But the fact that I could do well in science and math and physics in high school and he. Somehow either supported my doing chemistry it's cash if I look back upon that I really had no advice that was based on sound reasoning. But they saw you had a talent. So they kind of encouraged not a talent. I wouldn't say that they saw that I could get decent grades and something encouraged. Did you like chemistry at all. Oh yeah I liked it. It was always there was always something in the chemistry department. And McAllister was not. That great. It's quite different today. However there was an expectation always that we would go to graduate school. Dr. Scheffler who was chairman of the department can't send people to graduate school before and it was he in fact to influence me to go to Iowa State which again was not a good idea. In retrospect it was not the best place for me to go. Why and why was he pushed. Why did he push every time I had students there before and they had done very well and so he assumed you would too. Yeah he assumed that it was an environment where we would be comfortable. I also applied to Northwestern and the University of Wisconsin. I was accepted into graduate programs of both of those places but actually I was state at that time was really working to get people to come so that they invited me Come on visits and had graduate students look strongly around and so forth. So none of my decisions in terms of selection of schools in terms of selection Major. No this was done very rationally. However I must say I was asked to address the graduate the class. This year marked the fiftieth anniversary of our graduation McAllister. And so the organizing committee of the alumni weekend invited me to address class and to reflect upon my time at McAllister in about 10 minutes. And that led me to consider the experience of because those were in a way halcyon days. There was lots of bad things going on in this country but we were rather impervious to them. The civil rights movement was not upon us. Rachel Carson hadn't increased or enhanced our awareness of the environmental factors that were ongoing. Joe McCarthy was waiting in the wings the Cold War was heating up. All of those things were there but nevertheless being in middle America. At that point in time one could just carry on in this environment that was very protected. We had a political science professor Dr. Mittal who actually voiced a survivor of the Holocaust. One of my classmates with Joan Mondale Adams John Adams Mondale married the vice president. He became vice president after they were married obviously but her father was a college chaplain. J Maxwell Adams and she had gone to Summit School which was a select girls school in St. Paul on Sunday a lot of the students who went there to school were not from the kind of environment I would guess their fathers were doctors lawyers judges you know really respected members of their communities and so forth. So I was exposed to a wonderful group of people and what was really the dominant theme that emerges in my mind as I reflect back on is there was this sense you were on this earth to serve and there were large numbers of people who went into the ministry who went into the diplomatic corps who became teachers. This this theme of service was very dominant. And it is interesting that as you look back on classmates how many of them went into that. So anyway I gave this talk at graduation reunion times which was an opportunity to do some reflection on what the times were like then and how naive we were. All of this stuff and there was nobody more naive than I was. I was the most naive freshman and I looked at these kids who came from you know they got these high schools and then they came and we had Mike and sessions and they were active politically and oh god was I stupid by comparison. And then there were these very smart people. Their IQ was there were of mine. So I was challenged academically and not prepared for that challenge. Did you have to do a lot of catch up work. Not really because it wasn't that wasn't that incredibly challenging. But I was not a brilliant student. I was adequate. And I don't know whether that reflects my limitations my intellectual limitations or my lack of preparation is hard to say because so much of your intellectual development nurtured as you go through school and I didn't have any you didn't have that developing. I had none of that. I had none of that. Probably there were some very negative things but I would say that by and large what happened to me there has affected me all my life. Probably accounts for why I do what I do now and my admitted quite openly I have liberal political views I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal. And I meant the current state of affairs in this country. And I was you know I guess I think a lot of that was shaped by your experience my spirit because the remember that the Protestant churches especially the Presbyterian Church was quite conservative about ethics and morals. So my God what's been going on in this country now is totally reprehensible to me based upon what we learned and what we're taught in the examples that we had also lost any faith in God. I had to take two years of religion which required me to really intensely investigate my own interfere feelings and I just said I can't believe this anymore. How did your family did you tell your talks with your family about that. It was more of a personalized family. It's totally out of it in terms of anything. I don't think they understood stood what you were doing or anything they had so many problems of their own that I don't think they really even thought about that. I never could turn to them for advice and I never had a sibling. You know I wish I did. But anyway this is kind of irrelevant. It's just it's just that it had an impact on what you did and what you do now. I think it very much very much did. So I don't regret going to school there. I kind of regret that I majored in chemistry because I don't think I'm much of a scientist. I don't think that's what turns me on it's obvious it didn't but it sounds like something you've used certainly. Oh I think a foundation especially in the physical sciences absolutely critical because as I interact with people who have not had that background they see that their reasoning process is very different in the scientific method is applicable to just about everything we do in life. So you can use that. I got to I'm sorry I got off and others totally irrelevant things but McCallister was. You know obviously somewhat a life changing experience because I started to question to doubt and yet I continue to be the lockstep thing. You know you get your undergraduate degree and then you go into graduate school never asking when I want to be when I grow up. The other thing about MCALLISTER That's very important I. I never felt any discrimination because I was a woman. I was going to ask about that at least the chair the chemistry department assumed that girls and boys would do the same thing. So there was always this. Wonderful kind of under unstated expectation that there wasn't a difference just because you're working up that's really important and also in high school because the boys were pretty the boys in my class were maybe not very like Troy Tipton. Let's put it that way again. I didn't camp that discrimination and when I got to Iowa State. There was discrimination. Now that I look back upon thinking that it was subtle you didn't know what it was at the time. Well the thing is that I was there weren't very many of us. And I was in physical chemistry so I got good grades in classes. So again I could always come out with the top grade. What kind of subtle things did you notice. Oh knew what it was it varies. One thing it was totally non subtle is when I had my final oral defended my thesis and my committee sort of sat around talked with one another for quite a while because it was a really serious issue about nuclear testing and they got to talking about that instead of asking me questions. And then one of them had the audacity to say you know what. How are you going to use all this in the kitchen. Because at that point I had decided to get married and I was married at that point. And. I was so unprepared I didn't say anything. I just kind of laughed. But I realized at that point in time that they really had little expectations for me and I had little expectation for myself which is another significant factor in that coming from a blue collar family. I've been a woman. Doesn't lead you to ask what do you want to do. I think Martha Casey may have a very different perspective in that she went to my t. she comes I think from a family that's very cultured and educated or she has a brother who's a professor at Yale. I have a brother who can barely read. The possibilities were never presented to you Do you just find kind of found they gave you a track and you kind of followed that. Yeah there wasn't. That's true. And that was my generation of women on the other hand. I never pushed the envelope because nobody ever told me to do it. So I was quite advanced in age before the women's movement came along and I asked myself the question of What am I going to be when I grow up. How did you meet your husband. And then even at Iowa State he was one of those who was in the welcoming group. In fact there was a guy named Burt Saslow who was supposed to be my major sure rounder when I came to visit Iowa State in the summer before I started graduate school and he took one look at me when I got off the bus and said I don't want to have anything to do with her. And so my husband who is the kind of person who takes in dogs and cats and said whatever that. OK I'll take care of her. So that's how we met. Then I didn't have any office so he had a spare desk in which he said you know you can come in and use the desk where I am. So that's how I met him. In that context. You know all of this is kind of serendipity. But I guess everybody's life is serendipity except most people take more charge of what they do. Then in addition during the time I was in graduate school and during that time first year of my marriage my family my father my mother there was some one crisis after another. So I was very diverted by the need to deal with their. Challenges until I was 40 when they died I never realized until after they died how much of a drain on my energy that they were. This was a constant burden so you can never focus on yourself. You're always focusing on them. I think that's the case does prevent one from being selfish. I think that's true though. What was your dissertation topic and I worked on the surface tension molten salts. So I used a maximum bubble pressure method to measure this surface tension of sodium and potassium chloride and then you tactic mixtures of those two alkali metal he lines and led and then I did some statistical mechanical calculations to determine what the ideal surface tension should be of these your technic mixtures and compare that with my experimental results. Did you enjoy working on it. Or was it just another. Another topic. Well I the guy I worked with. Why I say I wish I hadn't. In many ways it's bad I went to Iowa State I found when I looked at the professors who were available in the research interest. I just didn't have a lot of. Research Interest. My husband an entirely different animal. I. Mean he's just one of those people was made to be a chemist. He excelled when he was an undergraduate and he's still it's what turns him on is that. And he worked with very brilliant man and was very delighted with that experience but also he just is creative. I don't think I have any creativity but I'm not sure because who knows right. I was a different kind of situation. What was the question you asked me. Oh did you enjoy your dissertation topic. It was kind of fun to get it done. Yeah always fun to know. It's always fun to have a question and to be able to address it. I miss that. There is something about doing science and getting some definitive hard data that is intrinsically rewarding. The problem is that what Fred Duke who was the man I worked with was just a sweet guy didn't really give us any direction. I mean when I see how major professors work now I see the kind of nurturing my husband has done in his graduate students. I see that he he has the advantage of kind of creating a field whereas I felt and I know now that Fred Duke was kind of floundering in that he wasn't sure where he really wanted to fit and he suddenly because he was with these labs started to work on malt salts. So we all sort of did something or other and it certainly wasn't for me. Environment in which I could grow as a scientist and and I can't blame him because other people probably grew I don't know I don't I think we all rather floundered around was there. Did he have a group of graduate students. Yeah. Did you bond together. We had a good time together. We worked but I don't think any of us was feeling like we were doing really fabulous science. Or something like that that really would make a difference in anybody's life or even in the lives of technology in the United States. And I think we were just sort of grasping for some kind of question to address. And right which is what you needed. You basically need a question. How did you end up at Wisconsin. How did you end up in pharmacology. Well I. I married my last year of graduate school and my husband and I could have gotten jobs with. Oil Company. I can't remember which oil company was that interviewed him and would have taken me. That would have been nice. Yeah. It's amazing that they offered the ideas but at that point in terms of my career I might have been able to get a teaching job at some Eastern college but actually my thesis was pretty poor. I wasn't very prepared and to really go out and do research I needed a postdoc. I decided to marry. This was a these were really rich days for science in this country. Grant money was all over the place. My husband started interviewing. He had interviews at six schools. And had done really nice thesis work. And if he started off really as a graduate student he started a new field medal Carbone or cluster chemistry which is piqued in its terms of its but all he'll speak anyway. He was asked to give a seminar at Iowa State on his research and he gave a very good talk. And so the thing is when he was called to come up here from Ames to give a talk for an interview he was really prepared. The slides already and everything like that because they wanted him to come right away and I don't know how it would have been if he'd only had about three days to prepare. But anyway he gave a very good talk and he was fired. And he's never regretted that this has been a wonderful environment for him. Now what was his position was that in chemistry. Yeah he's a chemistry professor. And did they make arrangements for you or okay. Are you kidding. You can never know if times have changed. We know when we hire people we have horrible time really is getting packets for the spouse. And we've lost people that we've been trying to recruit because we could not find an appropriate position for a spouse for the money to hire. So no Kevin's one of the assistant assistant chairs or associate chairs of the department so that I could be a T.A. with a PSP. Yeah that was a possibility. So I went around and tried to find something to do and what was that experience like. Well I played at the Forest Products Laboratory. They weren't interested. I played at Real back which is a battery company. They weren't interested. I could have been a T.A. In the chemistry department and then there was this opening in the department of pharmacology and the medical school and I applied for it and guy was really desperate because I knew nothing about biochemistry. I just didn't know what ATP was. So this guy Bob Parks sweet man was working on period and protein anti metabolites he was looking at the effect of these analogs on tumor growth. And one of the compounds that we did study at one point although we didn't synthesize it was five more years so which is still used today isn't it chemotherapeutic agent and the fellow who synthesized it actually was working in this building so this particular brief expanse of building used to be the major center for cancer research on this campus it was the first McCardle maps and but we were not in this building we were over on the other side. So I was really a P on. But the thing is that Bob Parks went on sabbatical and kind of put me in charge of his group and he had some really nice graduate students and we had a good time. So what I really did was I functioned as kind of a professional mistress to him that he was gone and I kind of held the hands of the graduate students. I could write theses I could do stuff like that. I wasn't creative in science. I don't need to make any pretense of that. Then in 1962. In the meantime also I had been hired as an instructor in chemistry the chemistry department was short of people so I taught analytical chemistry one semester I taught freshman chemistry one summer I was always clearly designated as a temporary part time instructors but I did like to teach I ask. I had time as an undergraduate I had taught as an undergraduate I taught in graduate school and I liked teaching anyway so I taught those chemistry courses and then what happened was that the chairman of this department of pharmacology got in a fight with the dean and he got up and left and took the whole department with him to the University of Minnesota and the only person who stayed behind was the guy I'd been working with because he was going to go to Brown. He didn't want to go to Minnesota. He had a job at Brown. He went to go back to the east yet graduated from Harvard and he preferred to go back to that part of the country rather than to go with the rest of the department to the University of Minnesota. So they were kind of desperate. They didn't have anybody to teach medical students because the department had up and left the entire department except for Bob Parks. He was still here. Now that medical school course was not extraordinarily rigorous at that point in time but one of the subject areas that I could teach was diuretics and acid base balance because it's all based on chemistry. Suddenly I started to teach so I gave some lectures and then I just gradually gave more and more and then there was a new chair Jack Straw Minter who discovered the mechanism of action of penicillin. Who was here for a short time. He'd come from Wash U. His only interest was getting to Harvard which he eventually got. So he really didn't do much for the department. Then they hired another chair Lowell Hogan and I became a professional mistress for him. Then my husband got a Guggenheim and we went to Germany in 1970 and I was alone in the apartment with three kids. For the first time in my life and I said I don't know that I like this. I really need to be doing something. I'd always work part time so I can't. We came back to Wisconsin in August of 1970 and I discovered that the Department of Pharmacology had made the life of a professor of immunology an assistant professor in the department. That was of course to make sure that he was retained. So I said to myself You made it inferior to these people who are in the department. Why don't I ask if I can get on the faculty. I didn't know what I was doing. So I asked the department that's what I think it was probably by then about 1972. If I could be a part time faculty member because my husband worked 80 hours a week I had three kids. My parents had just died so this gave me a whole different view of life because I didn't have this constant need to take care of them. So I became a part time assistant professor in about 1974. I had no idea what I was doing. I had no postdoc. I had no area of expertise because I would never have been hired at just a few years later because affirmative action came back and they couldn't have just had a little faculty meeting and to say Sure. Good on you. She can be an assistant professor. They needed somebody to shoulder a lot of teaching but I did get a grant from the National Institute on Drug Abuse. I wouldn't have given myself a grant as I look back upon this and I actually did turn out to be HD. Wonderful miss a professor of biochemistry at LSU. She's done extraordinarily well but my research productivity was poor. Adam pike at ten years I've been. It was a setup job but what kind of topics did you do. I studied I studied brain chemistry I looked at the effects of opioids on the function of synaptic some so I got really into neurochemistry. We did some work on endogenous opioid peptides so I became very interested in the playing field. I was going to ask how you get into it was fantasy and that was it was that because of some basic science I did a collaboration with somebody who is in the Department of Neurology who is very interested in whether or not peace patients with chronic pain problems had different levels of endogenous opioids. Come down to there's real spinal fluid things like that but probably the one thing that has most affected me in terms of what I do that isn't scrubbing floors at home is my appointment by the governor to the controlled substances board of the state of Wisconsin in 1977. That's the street state's drug regulatory authority and it was in that context in the early 80s I really became engaged more in policy efforts relating to the use of drugs to treat pain and at the same time almost simultaneously I began to teach more and more in medical school courses and I was successful in that kind of endeavor. So I and then frustrated because I couldn't write a grant proposal that was going to get funded to save my soul. I didn't have any mentoring you know to date people I hired as a six year horizon. First of all they get a six hundred thousand dollars start a pension damage I got as a start up pretty much nothing nothing but you know some I didn't even I was new smart enough to ask did they give you lab space or can you give me a lab. They gave me. An office thinking and telephone. But I was so dumb. So there is no way that I can criticize anybody but you didn't know enough to ask either. That's. Coming. But listen I smart enough know mentoring also I know there's never been more mentoring from day one. My husband in fact was the one that kept. Telling me. You. You have the ability. He is probably my strongest supporter. But actually I had no rigorous scientific training. It's pretty damned hard unless you're really very smart to just create something de novo. So it's kind of amazing that I turned out to be extinct. But then I. Then I just couldn't I couldn't write a successful proposal nobody helped me. Now of course. Any new assistant professor three or four professors go over their grant proposals to help them to criticize them to make sure that they're in the running they call the right people. Well that sort of thing. But the combination of my naivete and the fact that the system at that point in time did not support anybody men or women. I mean it was this was not. A thing against a woman. If this was the system was terrible. I mean my husband had no mentoring. That you needed. But then he had a couple of colleagues who didn't get tenure who came at the same time with him because they just didn't have this spark that he had this creativity. He may be a totally bumbling idiot in terms of many ways but he always has been creative always been able to think ahead and to price it. That's why some member of the National Academy of Sciences because he has that innate ability he knows what to do and knows how he is there. He doesn't need a mentor and didn't need a mentor. He didn't need a mentor. Graduate school you need a mentor. When he came here. He just was able to create a lot of people do need them just to help them navigate the system. I watch people now and it's just critically important in our chair is so great about that. Making sure that for example people. Nominating people for awards doing this whoever wins thought nobody would fight and deserve an award for anything but who would have thought to get to nominate me for anything because that just was on the radar screen. It wasn't that the chair was a very different guy than the one who was working his tail off and how to build a department to support his faculty environment worlds apart different do you think that. Because it seems like a lot of women especially spouses end up in those kind of temporary positions. So I was always temporary part time. I've been very lucky. I. It's it's just been a lot of serendipity. I just happened to. It's just serendipity that I got to point to the controlled substances board which opened up some new horizons for me which really resulted in my getting involved in creating a statewide EVP management improvement program. I was going to ask about that too in creating standards. Yeah I mean it's just been serendipity all along. One thing after another. I mean you've been very successful on a statewide basis and what has that experience been like that you've been able to have this large impact like that. Well I don't know what kind of an impact that happened been it's been really very very fun. I feel very fortunate. Had I not been. Pointed to the controlled substances board. It's ironic that I was appointed to fill a. Position of a pharmacologist even though I wasn't a pharmacologist I was an assistant professor of pharmacology and it couldn't be filled by a pharmacist because. It said pharmacologist with two two appointments. One for a psychiatrist and one for a pharmacologist. And the reason that I was recommended to the governor is because I became friends with Jovan Ferraro who is the person who was involved in drafting the bill that created this Board and establish what kind of. Positions beyond it. He and I had talked together. And I taught some drug abuse. I didn't think. About drug abuse which you know you read and you teach it is what it boils down to. And so he recommended me because the board pharmacologist just weren't any people and the people in the department. Had. No clue because they were really doing like biochemistry. So that was serendipity and then serendipity was the fact that I was on the board when the heroin bill was introduced into the Congress and that we went to. Washington on a family vacation in the summer of 1984 when that bill was under consideration. So I get to visit people. You know serendipity was the fact that when the idea for developing a statewide program. Came into being there were people who were really excited about it and that I understood. The. The science and medicine because I'd been teaching. Kind of as a fraud in the medical school. Learning. What I taught as I went along. You know. Keeping one hit at. One time I was assigned to teach. A.P. drugs. I. Didn't even know where the heart was. So I too learned and you taught it. That's right. I learned and I try to but don't you think all that fit into what you ended up doing with pain. I mean. Oh yeah. Oh yes it did. But then. The fact that. You know that. The. Program here in Wisconsin caught national attention for some the world health organization heard about it and then that's how it became known in other parts of the country. So we got to go presented in an international meeting and other people were interested in things just grew and grew and grew. And then you just start to look at the issues which are critical for changing. The behaviors of people. And one thing leads to another. And. In nineteen ninety six I went to a peace summit. Put on by the American Cancer Society where folks were supposed to come up with some ideas for. Really. Changing the way payment management. In this country. And so. I said. Well one of the things we need to do is we need to create pain standards and I'll do it. I had no idea what I was talking about but I called up the joint commission. And. I found a sympathetic person and. For some reason the time was right. It was serendipity because I found out people and asked a few years before and the door was closed. So. And then I just got in contact with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and. It's just been. A series of good fortunes. Now. Maybe the luck is running out because. I'm. Looking for this person to give me 10 million dollars and the person hasn't come along yet. So. So I have been very fortunate because most of the women of my generation. If they got huge D in chemistry. Ended up in administration. Medicine. PIP. Don't misunderstand. Ministrations terrific. And I think I could probably be a pretty good administrator but I couldn't be an administrator in a science department without having. A really. Outstanding record as a scientist because you know in a place like this you don't become paralyzed you don't become chancellor unless you're. PIP. Made. A real name for yourself in. Your research field or you're an outstanding scholar and that I could never claim to be. But. You know I could do these kinds of things which are sort of. Sticking your nose in everybody's business and trying to. Change the way that you dress. If you get 10 million dollars what are you going to do with it. Oh I create an endowment for the Cancer Pain Initiatives even. So that we can continue to implement the programs we've developed because we have a lot of model programs. In post up pain and cancer pain and long term care and home health. We have more regulatory programs to with the states. And so I just. Would. Have. A resource I could live off the. Earnings from that 10 million. Endowment to be able to fund projects and work with people in the States because the way the system is set up in this country I really believe that. You can change practice in the field and work at the state level. That's where. People are licensed. To practice medicine and nursing in pharmacy that's where the insurance commissioners live decisions. The funds come from. The Feds. To be distributed by the states. And state bureaucrats influence and they need to be educated about whether that's right. That's right. So. I can think of lots of ways to use him. Good. Wouldn't. Take a million like that. Well here's a question since you had. OK we'll change the subject here since you had three children. How did you balance being you really working part time that you still have professional responsibilities. And how did you balance that. Well I think I did do science. I didn't do science. That was the reality I kept my foot in the door I was always doing a little science so that I maintained a position I worked part time. I had a woman who came to the house it was not ideal. Again if I had to do it over I would do it very differently. How would you do it over. I'd first of all I want to live in a bigger house. I want to have somebody living in. I would have been more aggressive about. You know. But maybe I couldn't because maybe that's not my personality. And what did your kids end up doing. Well. One of our children died six years ago. I'm sorry. And that. Has been a terrible tragedy for me because he was my soulmate. He was going to be a physician. I was going to ask what he was stationed you studying. Well he'd gotten a degree in history but decided that that wasn't for him so he took time off after school and. Lecture. He stopped before I got his bachelor's degree. He's a. Few credits away from it. And he. Worked in a long term care facility worked as a baker at you know. Kind of a supermarket place. Then he worked as a landscaper and then he started to think about what he wanted to do and decided he wanted to go to medical school so he went back to school and started his science courses. So he had an aneurysm many of his bleeding bacteriological. And. He. The. University. Gave him his degree. After he died. The. Dean of the college in letters and Sciences who is a. Chemist. Had never brought his diploma to our house one night which is incredibly sweet. They we have two other sons one of whom has a page deed. And. I mean. This is. This is a hard. Subject from the. Because. I'd say. Know seven years ago I was down on top of the world with regard to kids this. Wonderfully healthy and everything was just fine. So that was the youngest son. He died when he was 26. And then. The middle son. Eric. Has appeared in physics from. Cornell. But. He. Was. Very affected by his brother. And decided to go to medical school so he was accepted at Columbia University Medical School. He's the kind of kid who was added. Fractions without common denominators when he was three years old. Think. Anyway. Unfortunately. Another blow. Fell. In that. The week he started medical school he was diagnosed with M.S.. So it's hard for me to talk about. I'm serious. That's OK. That's OK. And the third son. The third son. Is. Working on a speech in English at Yale. And the good news is that he just had a baby and our first grandson. Who is a who absolutely beautiful. Healthy a child. And more than just. Really precocious. According the pediatrician. And his grandmother he gave. Up. And he's you know I hope he gets his thesis finished. But. He's got some distractions now. How is your second son doing it or his. Well he withdrew from medical school. He he he got through the first two years and then he passed boards with flying colors. But then he got on the words scene the fatigue associated with Hamas was really. A challenge his dad is still hoping he'll go back to school finish his M.D.. A lot of times it goes into remission. Well he has relapsing remitting. M.S.. He has had no change in his MRI since his diagnosis which is four years ago. No no change and no. Neurological signs of symptoms is that fatigue that has been. The challenge. So he's. Figuring out right now what to do. So I just sent him all his old physics and math books because one of the things he can do is tutor. Me. In. He can tutor physics and chemistry and math. And. In New York City where he lives. You can make good. Money money tutoring. Because they're very wealthy people who are willing to pay through their nose to have their kids to work so he can tutor anything from President chemistry to quantum mechanics. All that. Differential Equations calculus you know all that calculus and of course. He has never had a key. On his mind took on organic chemistry. Lab when he was. In graduate school. So he could get into. Medical school because he had never had a biology course or a chemistry course when he took his cat. 14. Or something. Because he's just. Plain. Smart. And so. You're. Talking about my children is very. Hard. Because. Chris died. In July. 1996. He was bleed. On April. 30th. For 20 days. And. You know I just. It's not something you can recover from. I mean it's it's going to be there. Well and then. You're getting a mess on top of this I think we did a good. Thing. And Eric says Mother. You didn't do anything wrong. This is just lax luck of the draw. And I'm waiting when this. When we are expecting this kid. I thought. Oh yeah this kid probably born with some serious. Defect. But I was there for his delivery and I could see that when he was born he was just. Extraordinarily. Perfect. Yeah. He's everything seems to be perfect. But. He's way ahead of. The game for his age. He's falling over it three months in. This whereas he's talking when you talk to him it's just too expensive. So it's. You know it's just kind of like. I escaped from this. Horrible. Dysfunctional. Spence. Line family was the most important thing in my life. Always has been. And that's. Maybe I. Wasn't decent scientists because that was not. A top priority top priority. And then to have these. Two parts of it taken away take it can be like all been taken away. And. All gone. Maybe Eric will. Find a. Guys are really good guys. They're both red headed this guys at it. So I don't know. That it's just spin. Thank goodness that I have. Work. Satisfying. So probably go crazy otherwise it's something you can focus on. Things are bad. Yes I know the feeling. Well let's go ahead and it. I know that's hard to talk about. So we'll talk about something else good. Let's talk about your work with. We're almost done a couple more questions mainly with scientific organizations. I know you've been involved with the American Pain Society. I was wondering if you've involved what your involvement has been and what your experiences have been in scientific organizations. And then I also was wondering about it if you were involved in a women's organizations. Well. We'll do the latter one first because that's so easy. When I was in. Graduate school. It was there was a. Was it. Called. Is that. Right. No. There is a woman so to signal Pine Gap and see if I got a signal. So as a member of that. But never a very dedicated member. And then when I came to Wisconsin. There was a. Chapter. On that of biota Sigma Pi but of another group that I think is biology. And biology. But I just never have been very. Invested. I haven't had time. Any. Other interests. I felt that it was possible to. Advance. The cause of women. In other ways. That is to for example women medical students come to me and say. I know this is a dumb question. No man would ever start. A question with that comment. Stop it. Don't do that to yourself. And. I've also. You know women are very challenged because. Of what they think is frustrating these very bright women. And they don't take. Fellowships in medicine or other things because they. Say I can't do it. So there's compromises. A lot of women compromise. A lot lot of women. And. Some of my male colleagues or in clinical departments. Meant this because some of their brightest fellows are women. And they can't convince them because they. Too. You know to really do this because it's a. Nightmare in terms of trying to balance these. There's a new. Faculty member who's a woman Pamela. Is a person. I want to who is head of Cardiology. She gave a talk one Friday morning because there's a. Group of. Session put together for women faculty in the medical school. So she came and gave a talk about her life and explained some of the terrible biases that she's experienced. But at the same time. Turns out that she has a personal. Manager. So she. Makes enough money. So she. Has. Somebody. That she's hired. And it's essentially this is a wife. Think. Could. Her marketing courageous all the party who does all her everything. So she is freed up. From all. Pamela. I don't know if she has children or anything. But. She is a hard nosed. Clinician. Who has experienced. Horrible discrimination by her colleagues. Who. Not like the way she positioned her desk. In her office because. She's a woman so too aggressive. You put your desk a certain way and I don't remember what it is. But her tales are just because women don't go into invasive cardiology right. They just don't. And she's not only gone into it but she's risen to the time. She's there she must have some more stories. She's horrible. Expert. So again. You were asking me about women's groups and so I've never done anything with that. But what about regular silent tape. Well for a long time I belong to the American Cancer Society and no longer. I mean the American Chemical Society. I don't belong to that because I didn't. Do anything. I belong to the Society for Neuroscience for quite a while and went to the national meetings but I wasn't engaged in any way with that. I have been involved with the American Pain Society very actively. I was elected to the board of directors I've gotten awards from the American Pain Society. And I've done. Various things for them. But it's a very small organization. It's. Just that nurses get asked to give advice on this. It's kind of a networking thing where basically once they know your name and you can ask two things right. Right. So I've been very active in that and it's been a good experience. I'm going to ask now are these different people different kinds of backgrounds or is it. I mean they're not happy. No not compete society. Is full of a lot of basic scientists. So it's basic and clinical science and the clinical science is really advanced. More recently you become people become organization. So I kind of bridge that I understand the science and I understand the clinical aspects. That helps to have a science background means you can really understand presentations that are really in that arena. So I don't know how many people belong is that terrible I can't be more than a couple thousand females. It's a small group. The Society for Neuroscience started out time and then the meetings ended up eat candy powers and people who can't possibly get anything out of that kind of a meeting where the American Pain Society needs a much smaller in itself. And the teachers are presented at a symposium etc. So we just get to know people. Very rewarding to be able to work with folks that you respect and have the same goals and objectives that we do and even do thing on the executive board and doing things at a higher level up to. What I have to ask about your award from them gone to award two awards. And how did that how did that make you feel. I think probably. I can't. I'm worried. I'm not quite sure why I would get these awards. The last one just that. The Distinguished Service Award is still don't understand that. And I don't know why that was done. Maybe I was getting older and I was going to like you for a lot of time into it. To the group so. Oh yes yes I have. I've done a lot but on the other hand there are a lot of extraordinarily worthy people. So I mean the first four award which was that John Benny Public Service Award. I guess I could understand because I've done all this stuff with raising awareness nationally. Working with all the states doing stuff with the World Health Organization that sort of thing. But that's one that I got last spring the Distinguished Service Award. I just was amazed. I didn't expect it. That was. Well one last one last question is how is it meant to be married to a chemist. Has that made life easier or you know. Because basically you can talk all about some of the issues you deal with. Well I was very supportive of him when he first started out. My major goal was to make sure he got tenure. So I suspect that really your job to you know I spent a lot of time editing papers editing theses stuff like that after all I'm very traditional in my perspective on women's roles and so women do everything they work and they do all this stuff that was very important for me I suspect for not such great reasons that I had respectability. And if he got tenure and did well as a professor then that gave me respectability and I didn't have respectability because of the background from which I came if you come from a dysfunctional family with colored people you somehow don't measure up you understand. Yes I do. But I'm telling you all sorts of terrible things and now in retrospect I'm saying why did I dump all this stuff out instead of being more circumspect in my it's obviously things you've been thinking about and I think it's something that you as you start looking at your life. When you see why you did certain things and why you didn't do other certain things. You know it was really important for me because I didn't have much I hadn't asked myself what I want to be when I grow up. I didn't see myself as future professionally. So what was most important is to live my life as a reflection of now. He's really hilarious. He introduces himself as Mr. June bell it's because I get in the newspapers and I'm on television I'm into radio. And he doesn't do that. That's probably good for him too though. He's never I he's not the kind of guy who's ever felt threatened by his wife. He's been a strong supporter. He's also he's always I think I know he's been himself incredibly insecure even though he's so talented and very well. He's never. I always had the sense that he feels lacking in confidence. It's funny you wouldn't think so. Are you doing. Having met him is like kind of disheveled disorganized. It's really interesting the contrast between what people's going on in people's brains scientifically and how they present themselves to the world to the world. You know his mother always said we're going to change shoes. That's an interesting perspective. If you spend all your time shining your shoes you have time to think Well but see his father was a business man and a person with them Gas and Electric Company a Vice President Retail analyst and so you know he was in that kind of environment and that's when she saw their parents was important. Appearance is very important. So the fact that you could not wear a tie and have your pants falling down and stuff like that. How could she also she may have a clue as to what he did. How could you take this top five thousand dollars a year she just didn't understand what she is very proud of him especially when he was very successful. Is he even in his field as he progressed. That was in. I think just when he was starting out she could never understand why and go into an industry where he can get a decent salary is starting salary was less than he was making as opposed to like so anyway. How is it like being married to a chemist. Well I'll tell you there are lots of challenges because. He worked in years and he was rarely home. There are lots of negatives about that. As I said that must have been frustrating to some. Well I kind of don't have adapted over time. I know I was the primary child we were because he was just so focused on his work. And I suspect part of that is because he's not very efficient but also part of it is because. It's just he has this. Fed 9 5 graduate students he has this huge family out there. So no different kind of life. And people are still that way today. I mean those who are in academics work there things like me. I was seven to seven if I can get in here at seven. You have to if you can get anything done so in some ways it's hard. It's really hard for anybody man or woman because today's environment is extraordinary competitive. There's so many people and there aren't you know the federal grants are tough to get. Doggy Dogg in many ways. It was easier in the 60s when we started there was a lot of money. I think people probably got grants we didn't deserve to get them. I was one of them though in the 60s but in the 70s. I mean seriously you know because money was solid different but still I see the young assistant professor starting out. It's tough. The women balancing having a child against the need to be productive. It's a very tough choice to make. Always. Yes. And gale force mom is a grant writer. She works six hours a day. When I said this that she said it's so hard to leave. So she's not has a master's degree in English. She's not. A scientist as such but she has a demanding position and it's fulfilling and people are very happy with what she does. But she just says it's hard to say goodbye. Finding that balance between the two. Yeah. And men are not in culture rated to have to even see the need for that balance. I want I heard a reference one time that said him all the women assistant professors on hire wives. Kind of like we were talking about lot you were talking about that the other night. The president of the board of directors of the national organization the American Alliance a cancer patient initiatives which is this umbrella organization for all organizations that exist within states keen to commiserate with us pretty unhappy because something has got to change. We have a board of professionals won't have a board of an organization all of whom are health care professionals who work 60 hours a week. I'm gonna have a board that who can find money etc. and has the time to find the money. Great. So see the president is the head of the main hospital Council and she's just done understands nonprofits which was another question is does she keep her ending up so we're seeing or talking about all of us moving away. And everybody agreed that they did. Yeah. Well is there anything else you want to share about your life. I think we all erased the tapes because I've shared things about my life that I don't know that I shared with anybody. I don't know why I did that book and I just felt like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73076/file/158916#t=0.0,4183.32735"}]}]}]}