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Murphy, associate professor at Baylor University. Soon to be associate professor at Georgia State University starting in the fall. Art is the author of numerous articles, and several recent books it turns out that are coming out fairly soon. He has spent 20 years in the city of Oaxaca. Living there, studying, doing all kinds of research. And he has been particularly interested in the kinds of things that have happened in the past 10 years as Mexico has gone from a boom time to a bust time. I met Art almost exactly five years ago. Because it was the week before spring break. And we, my husband and I, we had some ideas for things that we wanted to do in Mexico and we said to our friend Mike Whiteford we need to find someone that we can work with in Mexico, someone who knows Mexico, who could suggest where we might go, and Mike said well here are a few names. So we called Art and one fine day we wandered into his office at Baylor University at about 1:30 in the afternoon. And the kinds of things that he did, he talked about things like housing. And he talked about things like coping strategies. Now I call that family resource management, but we didn't care what it was called. It was the same kind of issues that we talked about. About three hours later, as the time had gone so fast on our first meeting and he said you people got any plans for this evening and we said no and he said why don't you come home for rice and beans. And we said sounds good to us. We've enjoyed lots of meals of rice and beans ever since. Also lentils and a few other things that we were able to enjoy in Oaxaca. That initial contact led to a couple of things. Well the main thing was a major research project in the city of Oaxaca during the '86 '87 academic year. Earl Morris and I were on faculty improvement leaves from Iowa State, we also had a small grant from the World Food Institute. We had a much larger grant from the National Science Foundation with artist, principal investigator and Earl and I as co-investigators. Under this grant we collected data from 600 households in the city of Oaxaca, a random sample. And then Art and I went back to, I never have counted them up, about 30. We spent much of April, May, and June knocking on doors, visiting at households, doing the kinds of things that he and I were interested in in terms of ethnographic interviews. Art was never quite sure at first that I was as good a map reader as he was, but he finally gave up and did indeed let me navigate our way through the city. I was not interested in driving. He was the driver, but I was the navigator. And so with that, we will hear some of the kinds of things that he has observed over this 20 year time period. Before we start, however, we would like to acknowledge the sponsors of this. Mike and I were just saying that we think this may be the longest list that has ever been assembled in the history of Iowa State University.\r\n\r\n- And each of the sponsors is giving $500 I think.\r\n\r\n- Yes, at least $500. We have quite a long list for which we are very pleased because there were a lot of organizations and departments that were very much interested in this. And I hope we've got them all. Family and Consumer Sciences Education. Family Environment. Textiles and Clothing. Anthropology, History, Latin American Studies. S\u0026H International Programs. The College of Education International Programs, the Office of International Affairs. The Graduate Association of Planning Students. Did I do that right? Also known as GAPS, I should have called it GAPS and I'd have been okay. The Graduate College, and last but not least the Committee on Lectures Art? Oh, I just took your notes. Little surprise here. Do you want the lights down or...\r\n\r\n- Not quite yet.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- I'm happy to be here today. Or this evening. The temperature in Waco, Texas when I left at 7 o'clock this morning was 60 degrees. It was quite a shock getting off the plane. Mary neglected to mention that one of the other things that happened during that period of time, my parents happened to move to this part of the country just before they came down to visit me and I thought that was a coincidence that was too great to pass up.\r\n\r\n- Story City, not just this part of the country, but Story City.\r\n\r\n- They moved to Story City which I thought they were kidding when they said they were going to a place called Story City, but it turned out to be a real town. And it looks like a story. The work I'm going to report on tonight is basically work that began in 1971 when I first went to Mexico as a young researcher. And I went to the city of Oaxaca in the fall of 1971. And have continued to research in Oaxaca since that time. Have done a little bit of work in other parts of Mexico, but most of my work has been in the city of Oaxaca. And as a consequence I have gotten to know the city fairly well. But I have to say that what I'm going to report on tonight is really the result of a collective effort of a large number of individuals. It would be difficult to name them all, but certainly Earl Morris and Mary Winter are prime on that list. Pedro Pacheco, who is a student in your university, has also been instrumental in gathering and analysis of a great deal of the data and other colleagues from around the country. As you can imagine, our research project is now going on close to 20 years. And I think that one of the important aspects of the research that we're gonna report on or I'm going to report on for myself and other people tonight in this paper is the fact that it does involve a long period of time in a single city. Watching that place change in the context of Mexico's change over the last 20 years, although what we're gonna focus on is the last 10 years, and what that can tell us about the kinds of problems that occur when a nation like Mexico undergoes the kinds of economic traumas that it has undergone recently. And with that, if somebody will turn on the slide projector. Or if you'll get the lights I'll get the slide. We'll get started. Can you all see that? Is it high enough? I probably had it... May have to put something . How's that? That better?\r\n\r\n- Can you speak a little louder please?\r\n\r\n- A little louder? Okay, sorry. Something happened to the slide that blotted out the eagle's head, so I wasn't sure whether I had it in right, but I think it's correct. Can you hear me now? Okay. In 1976, the newly elected president Jose Lopez Portillo stated confidently that the business of his administration would be to manage Mexico's prosperity. Mexico was at the end of 30 years of unprecedented economic growth. Annual economic growth rate since 1945 in Mexico had been some of the highest in the world up through the mid-1970s. Had developed by that time... The 10th largest industrial plant in the world. The industrial capabilities of Mexico at that time were the 10th largest in the world. A rather formidable industrial capacity, Mexico was growing, everything looked good. Real wages were rising at that time. This man for example, colleague of mine. Actually he's godfather to one of my children. Owned a small and prosperous construction company at that time and was able to sustain his family, they made trips to the United States, made a trip to Europe. Family went shopping in the United States quite regularly. Another man had developed an automotive servicing business that was quite prosperous. He had a student studying at the University of Texas in Austin. Mid-level government employees could count on a very decent standard of living, especially if both husband and wife were working at that time which was not uncommon for mid-level government employees at that time. One could even believe if you wanted, or begin to believe in the trickle-down theory of economics. Conditions for the urban poor at that time were actually increasing or getting better. Alejandro, a construction worker, was actually doing his own contracting. He no longer had to be in the business of working for somebody else. He had become , who contracted himself and other workers to other individuals and his standard of living was rising. Juan the baker had a prosperous business, small but prosperous, managed to keep himself and saw a bright future for himself. Don Hill was a mid-level blue collar government employee who was managing to do quite nicely on his government salary and the small earnings that his wife could make in a restaurant that she was running. Private white collar workers were also doing fairly well. Again, in most cases both husband and wife worked, but their children could go to school, they afforded a fairly nice house, and they were looking forward to a bright future for their children. There were of course some concerns on the horizon. National population was increasing at about 3% annually. Low prices for agricultural products were creating an agricultural crisis in the rural areas. And all of that was leading to fairly massive migrations out of rural areas into urban Mexico. There was an inability of the rural areas to accommodate the increasing populations especially in the context of falling prices. And the demand of capital for cheap labor in the emerging industries was drawing people out of the rural areas also. Most of the migration was directed to Mexico's major cities. That's where the jobs were. And this exacerbated an already high primate urban system in Mexico. That is a system where the major city accounted for a large portion of the gross national product, the population, and all of those sorts of things. Mexico City in 1972 for example accounted for 22% of the nation's population. It consumed 56% of the raw materials that Mexico either imported or produced itself. And 47% of the consumer products of Mexico were consumed in Mexico City. Massive government investments were needed to keep an urban infrastructure going. And most of it went to Mexico City. Private resources followed the people which were drawn to the core of the nation. And then came the devaluation of the peso in 1976. But there were still all that oil in 1976. Mexico's reserves were vast. World prices were rising. Bankers and industrialists flocked to Mexico to loan money and sell goods. Traveling between Atlanta and Mexico City at that time was quite an experience. I happened to be teaching at that time at the University of Georgia and would make frequent trips to Mexico City from Atlanta. The planes are often full. One time I sat between a banker from Raleigh, North Carolina and an advertising consultant from Procter \u0026 Gamble. One was going to Mexico to sell money and the other one was going to sell deodorants. Well how middle class can you get? Mexico was clearly a welcome member of the international community where goods, services, capital, and people move freely with little regard for international borders. But a significant restructuring of the Mexican economy was occurring. There was a replacement of export substitution with export oriented industries. Maquiladoras on the border were an example. Massive movements of people from Mexico to the United States were another symptom or indication of that change. A lot of this investment at this time, this investment that started say in the late seventies during this restructuring was going away from Mexico City. This is what we call in Urban Studies the secondary cities of the nation. Part of that was a deliberate government strategy to relief pressure on Mexico City, so you've got buildup of cities like Puebla where Volkswagen was encouraged to put in its automotive plant and other factories were put in later. The city of Carretero to the west of Mexico City became a major industrial city or is becoming a major industrial city in Mexico. And then there are the famous maquiladoras near their primary market which is the United States. These are assembly plants where material is brought into Mexico duty free, assembled in Mexico, and then sent back to the United States and the only duty that's paid on the goods is on the value added, if you will, on the value added by the Mexican labor. Examples of this are most of Texas Instruments' calculators are now built in Mexico and shipped across the United States. Most of Apple's computers are built in Mexico. A lot of the electronics business now uses these maquiladoras. And most of those were located along US/Mexican border as I said, Mexicali, Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez are important examples on the border. But then later on there were factories put deeper into the interior. For example, Hermosillo which is the capital of the state of Sonora now makes all of the Ford Taurus automobiles sold in the United States and Mexico. And then another city that profited from this activity was San Luis Potosi further into the interior where a lot of maquiladoras and other factories went in. The impact of all of this can be seen if you're driving to Mexico City from the border, say from Laredo, is on the traffic, on the roads. The traffic on the highway between Laredo and San Luis Potosi is just horrendous. And then on into Mexico City it is something to be believed. That's what it's like driving in the Mexico City on a relatively normal day coming in from Carretero. Just over that pass you're going into Mexico City itself. The result of all of this change has been a rapid population increase in the secondary cities of Mexico and a drop in what we call the urban primacy index. If you will, this is the populations, and thousands of individuals of Mexico City is still by far the largest city, but if you take a subsample of what we would call the secondary cities, you can see that they're also rising in population rather quickly. And calculating the ratio of Mexico City's population to the population of the other cities of Mexico we can see that its relative size is dropping. That's just an indicator that's used by urban study, students of urban systems, to indicate the degree to which, if you will, there's a leveling out of investment and such in different resources. And we can see that that's happening in Mexico although perhaps not as rapid a rate as one would like. In 1988, then 12 years after the first statement, Carlos Salinas de Gortari, after a closely elected election which some claim he didn't win, stated that the business of his administration would be to manage Mexico's crisis. And specifically to renegotiate the foreign debt. Well what had happened in this period of time? What physically happened in this period of time? Well there was in 1976, as I said, the devaluation of the peso. 1982, Mexico for the first time failed to meet its foreign debt payments. And that precipitated what became known as the crisis in Latin America. Banks then in 1983 refused to lend Mexico additional money and they began the process of renegotiating this debt constantly. Inflation soared. The devaluation of the peso became a regular occurrence. But there was still all that oil. But then in 1986 the world price for crude dropped through the floor. And lots of places became like Mexico. The state of Texas where I'm living now became a third world country in the United States all of a sudden. And we precipitated what we now call the savings and loans crisis. Texas is responsible three quarters of the savings and loan failures because of the drop in the price of oil specifically and all of that cost. Now Alejandro Portes, looking at the effects of this crisis on the major urban centers of Latin America, in an article that recently came out in a Latin American research review, noted several trends in the primate cities, that is in the big cities of Latin America, as a result of the crisis. He noted some rise in industrial employment. Some but not an overwhelming rise in what we call the informal sector and that is individuals who don't have protection, if you will, through social security or any kind of fringe benefits, primarily medical benefits. And a significant rise in open urban unemployment. This is important because historically in urban Latin America unemployment was very low in the sense of there being flat out unemployment where someone wasn't working. There was a great deal of underemployment, people working for substandard wages, but flat out unemployment with people not having a job had risen. Well what I'm interested in looking at, and what the project that we've been involved in is interested in, has been what are the effects in the non-primate cities, that is in the places where people, the places unlike Mexico City. What we call secondary or intermediate cities of a nation. Especially those cities that didn't feel the effect of the industrial restructuring that occurred just before the crash. Well fortunately we have a couple of data sets that allow us to do that. One is one that I was involved in collecting between 1977 and 1979 on 10 cities in Mexico. Which we're going to report that data, it's coming out in a book later this year. We looked at data from San Luis Potosi, Mazatlan. I've got some pictures of some of those places. That's the desert outside of San Luis Potosi and Mazatlan and Tampico and Carretero. Mexicali. Villahermosa. Merida. Reynosa. And Oaxaca City. This data set is going to, we're gonna talk about comparing these various cities in this book that's coming out before crisis. But what we pointed out are the major thing, one of the things we looked at in that was that there were some cities that had a relatively high gross potential from the perspective of the ordinary household and that is there were places that if you were trying to make a living you would go to. Places like Carretero, San Luis Potosi, Tampico, and Mexicali. These places were characterized by relatively high levels of urban services, a high percentage of regular land tenure, that is people own their houses, in a relatively high percentage of formal sector employment, that is employment in industrial jobs or jobs that offered some sort of security. There's another set of cities that we call low gross potential cities. Mazatlan, Merida, Tampico, Villahermosa and Oaxaca were in that bunch. They lacked urban services. They had low levels of education. They had significantly lower wages than the other cities and a high percentage of the income, for example at households a high percentage of the income in households in these cities had to be spent on food. That is they didn't have extra money that they could use for other things. They're spending a great deal of it on food. Well one of those cities is the city of Oaxaca. Oaxaca, Mexico. Oaxaca is the name of a state. It's the name of a valley. It's the name of a city. The city is located in the middle of the valley. It is the capital of the state in which it is located. It is the most southern state of Mexico. The city is located at approximately 1,500 meters in altitude and it's about 300 miles due south of Mexico City. If you drive it, it's about 600 kilometers and takes you about nine hours. Because of the mountains. It's quite a drive as anybody who's made it can tell you. Oaxaca has had a fairly steady population growth since 1940. But it did not benefit from the economic boom in the same way that other cities did. There's no real industry in Oaxaca. The only industrial plant that you could, anything that you could call industrial, is a small plywood plant. Most of the business in the Oaxaca city is either government because it is the state capital, or tourism. And you get lots of weird people in the city because of the tourism. Population growth hit its peak in 1960. Now this is looking at population growth rates for various places in Mexico. Specifically, I have here the population growth of Mexico as a nation in the white. And you'll see that really it's been fairly flat. Population growth rates for Mexico since 1940 have been fairly steady. They've gone up some, but not a great deal. You'll notice the population growth rate for Mexico City has been fairly high. About 80% every decade. And that's maintained fairly constant, between 72 and 80% more or less, since 1940. These are all Mexican Census figures, by the way. The hash bar, this is one of the things I want you to look at here, represents the population of all of those, the population growth of all of those secondary cities that I mentioned in our list. The 10 cities that we're talking about on that list. If you aggregate them all you'll see that it maintains fairly steady, and then look at 70 to 80, you get this tremendous jump in the population of these secondary cities. And we argue that that's accounted for by this investment that occurred in secondary cities during that decade. For example, Reynosa grew almost 100% in that decade, San Luis Potosi grew almost 100% in that decade, you have a few cities in there, just tremendous growth rates. But look at Oaxaca. Oaxaca is a city that didn't have any industry put in it, it just went along and it has a fairly high population growth. And look here what happens when 60 to 70 begins to drop and then drops off again in 1970 to 80. And it doesn't maintain a population growth rate much higher than the nation as a whole. The important thing about that figure is that well over half of the heads of households in Oaxaca, close to 70% in fact, say that they've migrated to the city. As they came from somewhere else. And what that means is that there are a lot of people moving into Oaxaca, but there are also a lot of people leaving. I mean if the overall population growth hasn't changed, population size hasn't changed much, we've got a lot of in and out movement in the city of Oaxaca. Now in the past I and others have argued that Oaxaca's relative isolation shielded it from the external fluctuations of Mexico's economy. That is the reason that we didn't have a lot of industrialization and we don't have a lot of this violent up and down in population is that it's isolation. And here you see a picture of the valley in which Oaxaca is located and you can see that it's surrounded by mountains. It's very difficult to get to. And that shielded it from these isolations. Oaxaca, however, is not totally isolated. Our crisis did have an impact on the city and the families who live there and that's one of the things we wanna talk about now. In 1977 we did a survey of 1,500 households in the city of Oaxaca. That's a stratified random sample. Gave us a fairly good estimation of what the political economy and social structure of the city was. In 1987 we did another survey with Earl Morris and Mary Winter and others, assistants, and gathered another stratified sample of the city. One of the purposes of all of this was to compare the city for the two periods. Well let's look at what the job structure was like, or its labor market. If we look at 1977 versus 1987, we see that there was a rise in the percentage of vendors, and these are people who walk the streets primarily vending goods. A rise in blue collar workers as people who were moving out, and a lot of these people are people who used to work for the government and these are private blue collar employees like and people like that who had government jobs before are now working blue collar work for private individuals. And an interesting rise in the numbers of professionals and entrepreneurs in the city, which we account for the fact that since 1977 there's a tremendous buildup of the government in the state of Oaxaca and that brought in more middle-class people who needed the kinds of services that people like doctors and lawyers provide for them. We see a drop in private white collar employment. That is people who were working in what we'd call white collar jobs in banks and stores. The percentage is down. These are percentages, not in absolute number, let's say. Percentages. And an interesting drop in the percentage of service workers. In the city. Which we quite haven't figured out what to do with yet. We have some ideas and it has to do with the restructuring of the tourist industry in the city, but we haven't quite figured out what to do with that. Now if we look at households and what's happened to their economies. We can see that in dollars, these are dollar, I converted all the pesos to dollars to normalize it, we see that in root form there's a rise of $12 a month over a decade. This is median income of a household. The problem of course is that these are not adjusted for inflation unless you count, say the valuation does all the adjustment for inflation. There's probably for certain families as much as a 50 or 60% drop in the value of their money due to inflation, so there's been a real drop in income. Employment. Total employment is about the same. For males it's about 96% of the males, heads of households, state that they're working. Again, a great number of these have to do with underemployment, they may not be working full time, but at least they're working. We see a 15% rise in the percent of female heads of households who are working and this is directly attributable to the crisis. With a drop in the value of their incomes, more women are having to go to work to help maintain their households. If we look at the sectors in which people are working, we see that there's a significant rise. 24% of the male heads of households are now in the informal sector compared to 1972 and this is perhaps, the 1977, the most important restructuring that has occurred in the Mexican economy since the crisis. And let's just go on, we'll see that the female heads of household have also, 10% more of them are now working the informal sector. And if we combine those two to get them up with what we call an informal sector household, and that is a household where nobody is working at a job that has any kind of fringe benefits, and this is important because these benefits mean things like this. You can't be fired without due process if you have fringe benefits. If you don't have fringe benefits you can be let go for any reason whatsoever. If you have fringe benefits you have minimal medical insurance taken care of. There all kinds of things like that that go along with fringe benefits. And if you're only making 111 or $123 a month it's really important that you have medical fringe benefits even if they're only marginal, or even if you do have to wait half a day at the hospital to get servicing, at least you have something. So the major restriction that has occurred is that we now have close to 40%, we have 67% of the households that do not have fringe benefits. Where in 1977 close to 60% did have fringe benefits. So we've had a reversal, if you will, of the trend that had been occurring prior to the crisis in Mexico providing more and more people with fringe benefits and the kind of security in their employment that that implies. I think this is perhaps one of the most important findings of the work that we have been doing. Well where are they working now? What kinds of jobs do people have now? Well, middle heads are primarily private blue collar workers, about 41% of them. They work for the government or they're professionals and entrepreneurs. Female heads of households tend to work as vendors. 34% of them work as vendors, 19% of them work for the government, and service workers are 16% of the female heads of household. And the 19% who work for the government are important. About 80% of those women are working as school teachers. Who are working for the government in the formal sector. Third workers, that is the additional workers in the household who are an important component of household economy today. More important than they were in the past. A good 33% of them are government workers. 18% work in the private sector of one form or another, and then we have another 16% who worked as government bureaucrats in one form or another. So what does this all boil down to at the household level? What does it mean for people? I mean what do they have to do, what have they done in order to make these adjustments? Well what we find is that household size has increased slightly. Especially in the five and up range. We have more households who are having more people in them. Here's an example of one of those. We have a decrease in nuclearity in households, that means that we have more extended households. Bringing additional members into the household who are not nuclear family members. The implications of all of this are we tend to have lower fertility now. That was an interesting factor when talking to young women when Mary and I were out interviewing the numbers of young women who in 1977 would talk to the interviewers, or myself and another interviewer, about any kind of contraception was about zero. By 1987 I'd say fully half of the women would talk to us freely about it, and of them 90% were using something. An incredible turnaround in the contraceptive use and attitudes towards it. Interestingly in '77 when I was there it was often old women who would ask me about what kinds of contraceptives might be available for their daughters to use. Whereas by 1987 the daughters themselves were talking about it. What we find is that, again, we got lower fertility rates, bigger households. They're more extended, that means that outsiders are being brought into the household or else people are staying there longer to find these extended families. And that has to do with the fact that we got a rise in a number of workers. Remember that third worker I talked to you about. We have an important rise in the percentage of households who have three or more workers. And that means that what we've got is a drop in the worker dependency ratio, that is the number of people that each worker has to support. What that means is that in the context of a drop in real wages, more people are having to go to work in each household, especially the wives. Whoops. What happened here? There's one. This is a guy who stayed in the household too long. The other one. This is a wife working. This woman works. Helping her husband make the little ice creams that he sells throughout the city of Oaxaca. Another woman, this woman has two businesses going. One is that she and her mother make tortillas which they sell, but her main business is selling chickens. She goes and buys chickens and cuts them up. And sells them. Keeps them in this place that must breed more salmonella than any... Little glass box that she keeps them there in the sun. But they're there. And then she uses the parts that are left over to feed her family like the feet and pieces like that that don't get used. Households are using more members that is to maintain the kind of security that in the past was provided by formal sector employment, that is they're substituting numbers for quality of job is the way I would put it. So what is the impact of the crisis? Well Portes talks about the impact of the crisis on large cities. I think the fact of the matter is that from what little I've presented here you can see that the crisis varies from city to city. There are some major changes that have occurred in places like Oaxaca that have not occurred in those primate cities that Portes talked about. We have an increased informalization of the workforce. Much more significant than that that was reported by Portes. Women selling things by the major supermarket. Or young boys selling cotton candies on the streets. There's a restructuring of the households. That is, nuclear families are being replaced to some degree by extended families. Families are getting larger. But fertility is down, so what that means is, again, we've got these extended families. Another interesting factor about all this is that the traditional responses to crisis are no longer being used. That is the mutual aid between households which was a common practice in the late 60s and early 70s and still goes on in the rural areas, does not show up in the city of Oaxaca. Data from our project that was analyzed by Mary Winter indicates that less than 30% of the households exchange any type of goods or services. They don't exchange anything to speak of. A small percentage of them do. And the most frequent exchange is of ritual food. That is that they have exchanges, but they're for big meals with their godparent, well for their compadres, co-parents, or fictive kins or family members. Festive occasions are the most important exchange. The next most frequent exchanges are for goods or money which often involves some kind of interest payment. That is that they're not really an exchange of mutual aid in the sense of saying I'm gonna give you this and you'll exchange it. The pattern of I give you a turkey, you give me a turkey. No, it's the modern, urban pattern of you give me a turkey, I'll give you a turkey and you give me a turkey and a chicken to go with it or something like that. So this communal exchange that used to go on seems to be disappearing. Well there's little evidence of a shift of resources to these secondary cities like Oaxaca. And what's happening then is that the households, as we've said, have got to go it alone. They have to do it by building up the numbers of workers that they have if they can either by trying to get kids to stay in the household longer, dropping the numbers of babies that they have because they can't afford them which in the past they could, and the government will or cannot come to their aid like it used to in the past. They're truly alone now in a way that they weren't before. Well what's happened to these households? Well Don Hill, who we met earlier, he's now retired and when he retired things looked good. He had a good pension. Now he's barely getting along. He can hardly afford to feed his family. He is in desperate need of an eye operation which he can't get at the hospital in Oaxaca because the government has cut back on that service. Alejandro has had to go back to working for someone else. He's no longer working as an independent contractor, small contractor as he used to be. The man who owned the construction company that we talked about before, his company has gone bankrupt. He is now having to work as a government bureaucrat. No longer has his company. And other individuals from the city have migrated to the United States. To take up the labor slack that we have here. And many of them send monies back to their families and account for a great deal of the transfer of payments that we find from the United States to Mexico. So that's what the view is from down below, the city of Oaxaca, the people. At every single level the crisis has affected them in very personal ways. There are very few that can say that it's been good for their lives. Thank you very much. Can you catch that... I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any. Those of you who are required to be here, you can leave now.\r\n\r\n- Are you seeing a bright future, anything on the horizon, that will help the situation?\r\n\r\n- In Mexico?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well I don't know. It's hard to say. I have a friend who works... He's not typical. I mean he's a grower of fruits and vegetables in Southern Sonora and Northern Sinaloa which makes him part of the elite of Mexico. But I talked to him about it three weeks ago on the telephone. He called me out of the blue. And we were talking about it and I said well how are things in Mexico. And he said well there are lots of changes going on. And I said well are they good or bad. And he said good. And I said well what do you mean. What do you mean by important changes? He said well the changes are as radical as what's going on in Eastern Europe, but less dramatic. Now if he's right, and I'm not sure he is, that could be good because I think that one of the important things that did in the last election if they can hold that whole thing together was break open some of the closure that you had in a society that was held by PRI. It's interesting for example, to me, to listen to the US's reaction to the sandinistas which ran Nicaragua very much the way PRI runs Mexico, but Mexico's our friend and Nicaragua isn't for various reasons. I think that the same kind of opening up could be good for both places. It's gonna be a lot harder though. A lot harder. I do think a good thing that's going on is I think fertility is way down. There's no question about it in my mind that population is going to be dropping rather significantly, but even with that, the figures that I read, and you may know better than I do, that Mexico needs to create an incredible, do you remember what the figures of the numbers of, do you know that? Did you ever hear that figure? The numbers of jobs that Mexico has to create every year just to hold on? It's--\r\n\r\n- Bigger than Asian populations right?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, right. Even if you take the population of half the growth you still got several million people coming right into the workforce right now and you've gotta have a tremendous growth rate just to accommodate them and that's not going to happen. That's just not gonna happen. So that's gonna be a real problem. Which means we're gonna have more people try to get in the US. Yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- Does that mean that the rural population has declined?\r\n\r\n- The rural population?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I don't know. I can't tell you. The overall population growth in Mexico's down, I don't have it on my fingertips and I haven't looked at the figures that tell how much lower it is in urban areas as opposed to rural areas. There are places in Mexico where they talk about a depopulation of the rural countryside just because people are leaving 'cause they can't make a living there. The Mixtecos which is part of Oaxaca for example has the highest out-migration rate of any place in Mexico. And if you go through, there are whole villages that are deserted now. That had a lot to do with erosion, you can't grow anything there. There are more Mixtecos in Los Angeles now or something like that than there are in Mixtec or some stupid figure, not stupid, but incredible figure like that. Yes?\r\n\r\n- How is the national debt pay managed now if they don't deviate the national debt?\r\n\r\n- What is being done to deviate the national debt? I'm an anthropologist, I'm not an economist. I can tell you that they recently renegotiated part of the debt with the banks. The banks agreed to forgive 20 or 30% of it or something like that.\r\n\r\n- 35.\r\n\r\n- Huh?\r\n\r\n- 35.\r\n\r\n- 35% of it. But there are some other conditions that are rollover. I think that what's happening is that the banks realize that they're never going to collect that debt. And that it's in the best interest of everybody in the long run to figure out how to get that debt taken off the books without forcing Chase Manhattan to close its doors. Which is, one of my colleague at Baylor University sits on the federal reserve board for the Dallas bank. We talked about this and this is really the problem is that part of the problem with negotiating debt for the US side is the fact the way US banking laws are written, that if certain things were done, by law some of our largest banks would simply have to shut their doors. They don't have a choice and so that's, one of the problems that the federal reserve has been having is how do we deal with that problem and the other problem? They all know they're never gonna collect that money. It's just not fair. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- The problem is on just this issue, I hear that more and more substitutions for farmers are becoming export are contracting with national industries that . If it's true, what percent is that?\r\n\r\n- I don't know. My work is all in urban Mexico. It's primarily in the city of Oaxaca and I would not really be able to tell you what's going on with respect to the rural area with that kind of a program. It could be happening in certain areas, but in the state of Oaxaca I know that it's not very important if it is going on. I don't know about other parts of Mexico. I suspect that in places like Haiti and stuff like that there may be that kind of thing going on, but I don't know about... So I don't wanna say 'cause I don't really know. I'm ignorant on that issue. Yes?\r\n\r\n- If you'll allow me I just wanna make a comment about a couple of the questions that were asked.\r\n\r\n- Sure, sure.\r\n\r\n- The changes to Mexico's are really related to the debt renegotiation of problems. The changes are all of these humanities are occurring in Eastern Europe, the government isn't strong. Historically has been strong socialistic. And it's changing now. I believe five years ago the government owned maybe 1,200 industries and they began selling those off because they can't afford to subsidize anymore. And now there are only 400. The country has opened up to allow imports coming in to compete with state for its products which it had not done previously. And the Mexican industry now is export oriented. 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Sonora,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=10.49,14.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when they were going through this process,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=14.79,16.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the government started talking 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ready,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=24.31,26.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"looking to invest in Mexico","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=26.81,28.143"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when the right company came up for sale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=28.143,30.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They had their eye on Fertimex, a fertilizer company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=30.97,33.863"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And their argument was that they as 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doubt,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=41.74,45.551"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean Chemex can't do it, they never have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=45.551,46.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27919/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056/transcript/27920/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- The same friend of mine, the one who's a export grower from Sonora, when they were going through this process, the government started talking about selling off some of the very stable, they were just waiting for, they had, some of those growers had, they had lots of capital that they were ready, looking to invest in Mexico when the right company came up for sale. They had their eye on Fertimex, a fertilizer company. And their argument was that they as agriculturalists could run that and distribute that fertilizer a lot better than Chemex could, and there's no doubt, I mean Chemex can't do it, they never have. But yes.\r\n\r\n- I just was curious, at one point in time, Oaxaca seceded itself from the nation,\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Right after the revolution.\r\n\r\n- Right. Because they didn't want any part with all these turmoils going on in other parts of the country. And they never really got back into the full swing of integrating itself into the country, because they identified more with Central America, as opposed to the rest of Mexico. Could it be that part of losing their progressing and developing industries, accountable to other Central American countries, is because of not having government funding for it?\r\n\r\n- No, I think, well. First of all, I don't think Oaxacans identify with Central America, more than they do the rest of Mexico.\r\n\r\n- Well that was the original reason they gave on the--\r\n\r\n- Well, they may have, but then, you read the documents on that, no. What it had to do with the fact is that they, in fact, Oaxaca's not the only one. Yucatan did it too. I mean, there are several places around that have gone through this process of seceding or partially trying to secede from the central government. Oaxaca seceded from the central government during the Mexican Revolution. And the important thing about that is that it left them, when the revolution was over, with no strong ties to the central government, in what became known as the revolutionary family. And it was the sort of oligarchy that ran, ran Mexico. In fact, the president that was thrown out by the revolution was a Oaxacan, Porfirio Diaz. And so, so what happened was is that, Oaxaca sort of was left out of pretty much any government subsidy. You have to realize that for Mexico, the state really had no tax space of their own. Almost all of the taxes are collected by the federal government, because most of the taxes are taxes on imports and things like that. And are distributed to the states, to use as they want. And because Oaxaca didn't have any representation, they simply were left out of that. The other fact of the matter is, is that if you are any industrialist in your right mind, you wouldn't do anything in Oaxaca anyway. I mean, it quite literally, it's almost impossible to get anything in and out of that place. I remember when the Puebla plant was being the, Volkswagen, when they were going to do the Puebla plant, they were running around the country, and I was part of the show because the government said, \"Okay you gotta look at all the states,\" right? So they dutifully went around, and they knew exactly where they're gonna to put it anyway, but they went around and looked at all the states. And when they came to Oaxaca, the governor was so happy, and I was talking to people, they were saying, \"Are they gonna put the Volkswagen plant in Oaxaca?\" And I'm saying, \"There's no way they're going to put the Volkswagen,\" first of all, Oaxaca doesn't have any water. Perennial water crisis, did we have a water crisis last summer? Yeah we did.\r\n\r\n- Quasi.\r\n\r\n- Quasi water crisis. You would have to truck all the steel into Oaxaca on a 12 hour truck ride. Then you'd have to truck to the cars out of Oaxaca on a 12 hour truck ride. There's no way it's going to happen. And, so all that's left really, is administration as a government center, and some tourism.\r\n\r\n- But what happened to the irrigation systems that were so, that the Zapotecs had any room for? They were really known for their ability to bring in water--\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but you're talking about a valley. In fact, when Zapotecs had those systems down, they were only in one part of the valley, in the southern end of the valley, where the water table at that time was about a meter from the surface. Now the water table in that part of the valley is ten meters down. And you're talking about a valley that, when those water systems were working, had maybe 200,000 people in the entire valley. Now we're talking about 200 and some thousand just in the city of Oaxaca. So I mean, you're just talking about part of it, it's just a massive growth, and you just can't handle it. Yes.\r\n\r\n- May I make two additional comments on the question you have? Okay, one is about population growth. I was reading a newspaper from Mexico City last week, and that paper is from last week. And the population growth in Mexico went down from 3.1 to 2.1 percent. Okay, then, I agree with you, it has been decreasing, very, very, very much. And secondly, one of the main objectives of President Salinas is to reduce the debt. To renounce the debt. And then, and he offer three alternatives, to coin banks. He said, okay, you can choose between one of these. You can reduce the Mexican debt by 35%, or secondly, you can reduce the interest on the, on the debt, without doing anything. Any reduce. And third was to, not to do anything, but to be more long, to Mexico. You know, to pay the debt. Then I don't know what will be the result of that, but banks are thinking about what to do.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I spent a couple of days in Oaxaca about four summers ago. Something that you said. What has happened in the last four years in terms of tourism, in terms of more people coming in, because the prices are cheaper, the service people have kind of left, because tourists weren't coming. What would you say to those of us who want to help out economically?\r\n\r\n- Are you gonna close us off, is that it? Oh, oh.\r\n\r\n- No, I'm leaving. Oh.\r\n\r\n- In a moment, yeah.\r\n\r\n- There are interesting things about tourism in Oaxaca. Historically, the vast majority of tourism in Oaxaca has always been national tourists, which is an interesting thing that most people in the tourist industry in Oaxaca knew, but didn't really talk about too much. It's always, almost always been Mexican tourists going to Oaxaca. So the fact of matter is, that tourism is down in Oaxaca, but it's not down all that much. What you're losing are the upper-level tourists from Mexico, that used to come to Oaxaca, but don't come anymore. But a lot of the mid-level people and students used to be a major part of tourism, Mexican students, I mean busloads, from all over, coming through the summer. So that hasn't changed much. Now, what's happening in Oaxaca with respect to tourism is on the coast. Huge new development on the coast of Oaxaca called Huatulco, which is, it goes by one name, but it's actually seven different bays that have been-- like Club Med has the largest club in the world. You know, it won't be for long. Now it should have been, but that's, currently it's the largest one in the world. Poor thing's got a ten trillion, you know, some huge thing going on it. So let's say another, they're pushing it as the next Cancun. But like Cancun, I don't think it's going to have a big impact on the city of Oaxaca, because most of that is foreign capital. The profits leave the country. Wages in Oaxaca are in, they are not very good. People I know who've gone down to work there have come back because they can't really live there for what they're making. So that's where the tourism is right now. But it's a very highly specialized tourism, where people who fly in, fly out, probably have a marginal impact. That's my description. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Just wanted to visualize Oaxaca as being as isolated as it is. Transportation is really the biggest problem where tourism or manufacturing, or anything.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Is affected and so, is run by the following.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it's right smack dab in the middle of three mountain ranges that come right together and there's this valley, right. And, an indication for example, there used to be six flights a day, 727s that flew into Oaxaca. And now there are four. I think that's a good indicator of the degree to which tourism and other kinds of activities have dropped off. I mean I, just to give you an example of what's happened, when I first went to Oaxaca, there was one flight a day. It came in at seven o'clock in the morning, you set your clock by it. All the people in the pensiones, \"Oh there goes the,\" they didn't have clocks. They'd say, \"7:30 plane, gotta go to work.\" I mean, that's what they would say. And now, and then during the time I've been working there, we got to six flights a day, and now it's down to four. So I mean, you can see the cycle, just in terms of, and really, that's the only fast way out. Otherwise, as you say, it's a long ride. You go on the train, or on a car. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Are these, are these, Hualtucos, Cancun, are they reinventing Mexico? I know of course they employ, on a certain number of locals, but you see, it strikes me as foreign investment. A few nice days, come in there, and they pay, most days, prices for, for what's there. But they call you. And then any, any earnings, go back out.\r\n\r\n- I, you know, I think there's a big debate on that. I think a lot of it has to with how you view that kind of development. My feeling is that it's not, it's not the best investment in terms of what Mexico needs. But it may be all that they can get. You see what I'm saying? I mean, my feeling is that you're right, that most of the, most of the profits leave the country, wages, as I said, except for a few hotel employees like, some Mexican middle level managers get fairly good wages, but you know, the maids and people like that get the same kind of wages they get in Oaxaca City, they can't afford to live there, I mean it's that kind of a thing. So, so I think that there's, there's a, you know, it's a double-edged sword for the country. But again, especially in a place like Oaxaca, that's it. What else are you gonna put in there?\r\n\r\n- On that less than cheery note.\r\n\r\n- Oh.\r\n\r\n- Perhaps we can bring closure to, Art, thank you very much for sharing this with us.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Next time I'm gonna touch base, coordinate,\r\n\r\n- Okay, okay.\r\n\r\n- Make sure you can join us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43238/file/116056#t=0.0,698.472"}]}]}]}