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We were--he was a tenant farmer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=53.85,58.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we lived on the property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=58.93,60.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the owner of the property lived in a separate","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=64.4,67.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=67.74,68.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so my background was farm background. 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Hmm? I said I understand that part. 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The politics of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5257.42,5261.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/975","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, so I think that--.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5265.17,5267.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/976","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I guess that's the politics and economics of life","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5272.71,5277.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the needs that we have and where I then generated[?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5278.95,5283.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my ideas of what Iowa needed to do and which I still try","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5285.16,5290.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/979","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to promote whenever I can. So I guess that's about it. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5291.13,5296.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If there's nothing else you'd like to say, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5303.46,5306.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think you've answered all of my questions. Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5306.2,5309.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the last thing--the project sounds very interesting and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5312.97,5317.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/983","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will be waiting to see the outcome of this hundred and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5320.09,5325.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fiftieth--it's a--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5325.4,5326.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what do you call your project? It's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5329.23,5332.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Iowa State University oral history project. Oral history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5332.7,5336.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oral history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5336.24,5336.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/988","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are collecting as many memories as possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5338.71,5341.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/989","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5343.17,5343.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/990","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Worthwhile. Thank you. And thank you so much for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5345.99,5350.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/991","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"agreeing to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=5350.28,5350.51"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18463/annotation/992","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/463/original/RS000-017-003_Moore.vtt?1599133578","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/463/original/RS000-017-003_Moore.vtt?1599133578"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18464","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Unedited text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801/transcript/18464/annotation/993","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Two little red lights came on this end. Okay. Good. Right there? Okay, good. That means it's working. Okay. Today is October 19, 2007. I'm Michele Christian and I am interviewing Wayne Moore for the Iowa State University oral history project. Mr. Moore, could you discuss--talk about where you grew up? And about your family? Where I grew up? Where you grew up. Yes, I grew up in northern Iowa, Kossuth County, on a farm near the city of Algona. What did your--your father farmed? Yes, my father was a farmer. We were--he was a tenant farmer and we lived on the property. And the owner of the property lived in a separate house. And so my background was farm background. I went to city school. All my education was in the school system of Algona. Okay. Algona, Iowa, right? Yes. So I didn't--I wasn't in a country school room like typical early in the 20th century. I had--my mother had a couple of cousins that were country school teachers so I was somewhat familiar with this system. One room and plop down on stools[?] in the middle of the room and all that sort of thing. And you graduated from Algona? Yeah, graduated from Algona High School. Did you have any brothers or sisters? Yes, one of each. One of each? Yeah, my brother was two years younger and my sister was twelve years younger. Why did you decide to come to Iowa State? Well, in our senior year in high school, my physics teacher, who was a graduate of Iowa State, brought me to Ames with him to spend the day in what was called at that time spring day. And we toured various buildings on campus. And at that time I had a feeling that I didn't want to go into farming. In fact, I disliked it very much. That was the days of the Depression and we had shortages of--a shortage of money, mainly. We never had a shortage of food because on the farm we raised chickens and milked cows and so we had those sort of things. My mother and father had to think very hard to spend five cents a week for me to join the Boy Scouts. It was a very serious financial decision. They let me join, however. Oh, that's great. Yeah. So that's my background. Then I decided I wanted to go to Iowa State, but I didn't have money, of course. And I graduated from high school in 1936. I got a job in a drugstore in Algona, sort of soda jerk in a drugstore and spent a year saving money from the job. And that's how I had enough money to get started that first year. There was some tuition assistance, tuition was very low, too, I think twenty dollars, twenty dollars a quarter we were on a quarter system at that time. And then I got a job in the Memorial Union waiting on tables. So, I worked while I was going to school. Now, my mother graduated from Algona high school herself, but my father didn't go any further than the eighth grade. Although he was a very intelligent person. And when I talked about going to school or going to college, that was something my father was almost unheard of. He couldn't grasp the consequences and opportunities involved, but he was willing to let me go. Good. So that's working and going to school at the same time here in Ames. What were your classes like? What were my classes like? Oh, well, my algebra class was held in a classroom in Beardshear Hall. At that time Beardshear Hall was mostly classrooms. And then I had chemistry class over in the old chemistry building. And I had English class under a professor whose daughter is now married, living in Ames and she's in my age group. But he was one of my interesting professors. And that year was the year that one of the lecturers who came to campus was Amelia Earhart. Oh. And she was missing that was when she was first missing. But she had been here and people were very impressed with her, I recall a lot of people talked about her. And there is a book out somewhere by a lady who lived in Ames; the name of the book is I Taught Ameila Earhart to Fly and I've read that book. She was a flight instructor. And so, just an interesting happening in my first year here in college. What was the name of the English professor? The what? The English professor that you had. Starbuck. Starbuck? Professor Starbuck, yeah. And his daughter that I spoke of is Roberta Lowkey[?]. She and her husband live just past a half mile from where I am. So, that is some of the memories that I recall from my first year in college here. What other professors can you remember? Well, this wasn't in my freshman year, it was somewhere in my junior year. Well, one of the math classes I had was taught by Vincent Atanasoff-- Oh really? --while he was professor here on the staff. Yeah. The course was differential equations. I don't remember too much about it except that it was also in a classroom in Beardshear Hall. Which is, I say, but most of that classroom different than it is now, of course. So, one of the other professors I remember was Ernie Anderson who was also a math professor and a physics professor. And I remember a professor--a physics professor, head of the department--Fox, Daryl Fox. Right off hand I can't think of others that I had. I had quite a few. Oh yeah. [laughter] What types of extracurricular activities were you involved in? Well. At that time, the ROTC program here required all freshmen and sophomores to take the course. It was required. And the Field Artillery Unit--they are a unit that was running the ROTC program--had horses here, supposedly to draw the cannons--horse-drawn cannons, you know. However, the extracurricular activity associated with that was called The Cossacks, I believe. That was a riding group. And so I belonged to that. And it was trick riding, jump off and jump on the horse if they can't fall off. So I remember that as a curricular activity. Also, one year for my requirement for physical education I took golf because the university golf course was--that was here at that time. I think at that time it was only nine holes rather than eighteen holes, but I remember that. That's all that occurs to me right now. Were you--I read somewhere that you were a member of Pi Kappa Phi. Social fraternity. Yes. Yeah. I didn't join that until my junior year. I joined it and it's an old decrepit house. And I enjoyed the fraternity life quite well. And I worked with them as an alumnus over the years and they've had their ups and downs. But we built a house, a new fraternity house. That was about fifteen years ago, something like that, in the same location that was where the old house was. And I've minimized my activities with the fraternity house because I don't get around too much anymore. But recently the head of the alumni group--Alumni Association talked-- was talking to me and they bought in addition to the new house which built on--tore down the old house and built on the same property, but recently they bought some additional property next to the fraternity house. And so they seem to be doing all right. Oh good. What made you decide to join that fraternity? Oh. I Don't know. They're-- The members of the house kept bugging me and pointing out the values of fraternity life and so on. And so, I finally decided to give it a try. It cost a little more money than not belonging to a fraternity, but I was continuing to work part time and had a pretty good job and so I began to plan to spread my college life from four years to five years. And I started in the fall of 1937. So, naturally, the war had claimed--I had gained--I took ROTC for a total of four years so I got my reserve commission as a Second Lieutenant. And that was in the graduation of 1941, spring graduation. And then I had a little bit of a problem with my weight. They wanted to call me to active duty--this was before Pearl Harbor-- but I didn't--I couldn't qualify for active duty because I didn't weigh enough. And, but after Pearl Harbor, why, they were a lot less fussy. [laughter] And so I went into service in February of forty-two. I was supposed to graduate here in May forty-two, but the dean of engineering decided, looking at my record and the extra credits--the extra courses that I had taken, that he could qualify me for graduation. So my bachelor of engineering, electrical engineering, was obtained in absentia in the spring of forty-two while I was on active duty. Before we get into your World War II record, I'd like to know a little bit more about your work with the civilian conservation corps, the CCC. Yeah. Yeah. What did you do? I taught--I taught classes, evening classes. In high school I had taken bookkeeping, and shorthand, and typing. And that was one of the most fortunate things I ever did because my typing is--because of computers coming into the picture. My typing opened the doors to a lot of things that I could do. But anyway, to get back to your story. The CCC camp at the corner of Lincoln Way and Franklin Avenue was one of employment to keep producing. In this case, the CCC camp was a forestry camp. So the kids during the daytime were planting trees and doing other things associated with development of green space and so on. And the night classes were for their benefit if they wanted to take them. It was voluntary. And so having taught typing and shorthand and bookkeeping or having taken them in high school I was able to teach them to the CCC kids. So that's what I do at seven o'clock at night while I was there and teach these different courses to the residents of the camp. So that's how I got involved with them. Oh good. Did you enjoy that experience? Yeah, I enjoyed the teaching and the pay was pretty good. It was keeping me-- keeping me in college. I also saw that you were a member of the Knights of Saint Patrick. Yeah. Could you talk about what the organization was and your involvement in it? Well. I can't remember what organization it was associated with. You got any other-- The College of Engineering, I think is what-- College of--? Yeah. Okay. It was a student-run organization. And they had a song, Saint Patrick was an engineer, he was, he was. I don't remember too much about the activities. We'd meet once in a while, but I wasn't an officer or anything like that, I was just a member of the group. There were other organizations that I spent a little more time. There was a mathematics organization, Eta Kappa Nu, I believe it was called, and then the engineering organization, it was an honorary basically, Tau Beta Pi. Okay. Qualifications for belonging to it were a high grade point average and I almost never had too much trouble with grades and so I belonged to a lot of organizations similar to that. Good. Some of them I've forgotten about. That's fine. I also read that you worked for the Daily, for the Iowa State Student. Yeah. For two quarters, I think I worked on the business staff of the Daily. And, but it didn't interest me too much so I didn't fool around with it very much. You went over--what did you do in World War II? You work--you started your commission in February of forty-two? I got called onto active duty in February, yeah. And my orders I received by mail, of course, and they instructed me to report to Fort Monroe, Virginia, on a such-and-such a date. So, I left Ames and in fact I was in the winter quarter, February, so I probably-- I probably dropped out of school. I remember I talked to the dean of engineer before going and we arranged that I would get my degree in May, my bachelor's degree. But in February I went to Fort Monroe, Virginia, where I was assigned to the--my commission, my reserve commission, was in field artillery, but apparently they needed some people in the coastal artillery, which was--the coastal artillery was also responsible for anti-aircraft artillery. And the reason I got pulled in that direction is because some of the courses I was taking in engineering--electrical engineering--had to do with high frequencies and at that time high frequencies was a very hush-hush thing. And I ended up in Fort Monroe, Virginia, belonging to an anti-aircraft radar unit. And we were getting courses, taught the latest hush-hush thing. I remember, we would make notes, but we had to turn the notes in and I remember seeing them crossed out because of this new oscillator that we were learning about as part of our radar unit. Strange thing about that oscillator is I remember how hush-hush it was at that time but now it's the key part of a microwave oven. Really? It's an oscillater. All microwave ovens use that oscillator because at that frequency it heats up food, which we found out while we're in the service sitting near the radar unit with a sandwich. You could get the sandwich heated up. So that was very interesting, but I got reassigned to another unit which was not this radar unit and I went overseas with them in February 1943. And at that time, there were German subs all over in the Atlantic, you know. We were on a boat in a convoy and I was told there was a mix up in the middle of the night one night while we were crossing. And so they thought there were some subs in their area, German subs. But we didn't get sunk or anything. So, we stopped at, I think our first stop was in Africa. Casablanca. And the only reason I remember that is because that became a famous movie later on. Then we went on down to-- Sierra Leone was another country on the coast of Africa. We went way on down to Roberts Field, which was an airfield in the western bulge of Africa. It was the closest point between Africa and South America. So they were ferrying new airplanes for the European theater but they hadn't finished it--give them to a new pilot. He'd fly them down to South America. Then he'd fly across the ocean to the Roberts Field where I was stationed and I was with a unit--anti-aircraft unit that was supposed to defend the field against the enemy. Well, things changed, so there wasn't really much of the enemy around at that moment. I was there a year and then I got reassigned to India, the China-Burma-India theater. And there we did have some action because the Japanese had invaded India, but they weren't doing very well. And, so I stayed in India up in the upper part of India for several months and then I was reassigned to Calcutta, which is down in the lower part of India. And that was the tenth headquarters of the Tenth Air Force, I think. And I spent, oh, about six months there or something like that. Anyway, the war was winding down and so in 1945 I was assigned to go home from India. So, I got a fair[?] where they had to build a little doghouse, you might say a big doghouse, had twelve bunks in it. I was assigned to one of those bunks. And we were going back to the United States by the Pacific supposedly to be reassigned for the invasion of Japan--the mainland Japan. Well, I got home, landed in Los Angeles aboard the--those of us who were just passengers on this freighter. We got off. We were sent home on leave. And I came to Ames. And Ames had become my home. My parents had moved down to Ames during the time I was overseas because my father had a job at the university. What did he do? Feeeding cattle and cattle research. And he was not a research professor but he was an assistant helping to feed the cattle. Good job. And since I had-- Ames had sort of become my home anyway because I had been here in college for four years. So that was that. While I was home they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, and that changed everything again. And then I got malaria. I'd been in the tropics for a couple years and never had it but I got it while I was here. You got malaria in Ames? Yeah. And the university hospital had been taken over by the Navy--it was being operated by the Navy. And there was a young doctor there and he looked at me and we didn't know what I had there at first, I just sat there. He was a wonderful doctor. And he said I just think you got malaria, I'm going to start the treatment. And so I got very sick and he put me in a hospital on the campus and he started giving me the cure. [sound of messing with the recording machine] They started the cure. So that Navy doctor, he was just an ensign, a young man. Later on, after he got out the service, he came to Ames to practice and he was one of my close friends-- Oh. --for many years after that. And what is his name? His name is Hildebrand. Dr. Hildebrand. And so he took care of my kids when I started a family. He was part of McFarland Clinic. And-- so, well, that's just incidental. So, I guess I've answered that question. What do you want to ask now. So you came back to Ames. Yeah, came back to Ames. And what was your first position when you came back to Ames? My first position-- After you were released from the service. Oh yeah. I was an instructor in the College of Engineering. And what did you teach? Well, I taught the predecessor to the computer--the slide rule. How to operate a slide rule. And now all out of date now. I've seen those. They do need classes on teaching that. But I also--as time went on I would teach other subjects in management and statistical quality control and other subjects similar in nature. It was in the Department of General Engineering, which would later change its name to industrial engineering. The name now is a little different than that--industrial engineering and management or something like that. And that's teaching started. Well, I went up to visit the registrar, who was a friend of mine from before the war, and he said that I think--this was while somewhere around the time I got malaria and so on, but after I got out of it and I was still here in Ames. I had a job offer that I got In 1942 from Bell Laboratories in New Jersey. And they told me that when I got back from the war--they probably thought to themselves if I get back from the war--I was to go there and I had a job waiting for me. Well, that's what I was planning to do when I stopped here to visit my family. And so as I said I was also talking with the registrar and he said, why don't you stick around? He said, we're going to have a few extra students, I think, and you can help classify them. Well, they let so many millions of veterans out that we were just--. We were getting ready for winter quarter and this was in the fall of 1945 and he said you can help process the students and we can pay fifty cents an hour. Well, they came in such droves that in January 1946 the university was three days late in opening. Oh wow. And Dr. Friley was president then, of course, and he was not happy at all, but we just were inundated with veterans and I was helping in the registrar's office. But I started teaching and Joe Walkup who was head of the general engineering department wrote a letter to President Friley. And President Friley was a hands-on president. He knew--he knew everybody and he knew what salary they were getting and he usually set the salaries and so on. And Joe Walkup wrote him a letter requesting permission to hire me for a temporary period of three months. He thought that the crowd would disperse by that time and the number of veterans would drop off. Well, that three months ended up being forty or fifty years because I was here until I retired with a certain period of time when I went to Japan as working for the Air Force, but I was a civilian analyst; I was not in the military. But I had just gotten married and so for two years I was in Japan working. What did you do while you were in Japan? What kind of projects did you work on? Well, it sounds silly now, but I was part of a team trying to determine how we would survive an atomic attack--atomic bomb attack. And this is when we were at odds with Russia and so on--the Soviet Union. And so the kind of work that I did, it was really to play war games, you might say. And it was kind of futile because how do you handle an atomic bomb, I mean? Yeah. It was--it was frustrating. We have a lot of meetings and a lot of different people in the military and civilians and government officials and also people from the Japanese government. And so after two years of that kind of work, I was pretty well set up with it and decided I would drop and go back to university. So that was--I went over there in fifty-five, and we came back in 1957. And they immediately wanted me to go back to work teaching again. Okay. So, I started that and until 1960 doing the teaching for three years. In 1960, Dr. Hilton called me into his office and wanted me to go on a--join a special committee. Dr. Hilton was having trouble with Dr. Hancher down at Iowa City who was President down there and both of them were trying to appeal to the Regents to say that they were underfunded and the other school was overfunded. Oh. And I was supposed to--I and the committee members from the other two schools called-- well, we each had a committee of three, myself and two go from here and the other two schools--they were called a Committee of Nine. And so we started analyzing the cost of education. And what really turned out instead of settling the argument, this Committee of Nine really got the three universities to get together. Instead of squabbling with each other joined together on what the need, financial need, was. So we did a lot of good in that sector[?] in Des Moines. At that time, and that was 1960, at that time, the regents were very prestigious. And the universities were very prestigious in the state of Iowa and were well supported. But in the ensuing years since then--. So I became vice president for business and finance in 1966 and when I took office I hired Warren Madden to be my assistant. So I stayed in the vice president's job for business for fourteen years and then I became vice president for our development for a period of five years and I retired in 1989. Nineteen eighty-nine, yep. And then I had gotten this park started so I--on the day I quit I had a--building one was the only building in the park at that time, but it had an office there. And since that time we built building two, and building three, and building four. bought building five and bought building six that had been built and were already here. How did that turn out with your--with the committee of three and the Committee of Nine? How did that--? How'd that turn out? Yes. Well, politics, the way it operates is somebody in the legislature--. Well, things were changing. For instance, community colleges didn't exist in my time in sixty-six when I became vice president, but they began to put more money into community colleges. And it was a good idea. It gave people a chance to get better education and better jobs and so on. But the money--. I think what the Committee of Nine did really was get-- help to get people thinking more about post high school education. And so although it resulted in spreading the money thinner--and it's still sort of that way--the state support of higher education kind of disappeared, went down to a much lower level. And the result of that was, of course, tuitions went sky high. And year after year there would be double digit increases in tuition. And so, it's a mixed blessing. Depends on where you stand. Whether you want to be supportive of community colleges or whether you want to be supportive of the universities themselves. And, well, the battle is still going on. Yes, it is. Yeah. How did you become the assistant vice president for business affairs? How did you get that position? That was--Dr. Hilton decided that I should have an office over in Beardshear. I had a title of cost analyst for a while and then Mr. Platt was vice president for business and finance and he was getting near retirement. So some people began to think in Beardshear, Dr. Parks was one of them, that they had to start thinking about a replacement for when Boyne Platt retired. So I was one of the people they were looking at plus a couple others in the business office. But I think they kind of wanted to get me close to the vice president for business so they could see how I was doing and so on. So that's how that worked out. What were your duties while you were assistant? Oh, mostly budget figures. We were-- we were always planning for the next year, you might say, and in planning you would assign certain people for--to pick out the programs that were going to be new programs if there were going to be some and how you're going to finance them if you wanted to put them in the program. So most of my work was, at the basic level, was budgeting, budgeting money. But that, of course, spread out into a lot of miscellaneous things like student riots and lots of different things I can't even recall[?] that didn't have anything much to do with money. But Dr. Parks was a marvelous president and he had a real knack for knowing how to delegate. So we'd have weekly meetings of the vice presidents, at that time there were four, and at those weekly meetings we would sort of program what was ahead of us, what our problems were, who was going to work on them and so on. And it worked out just fine. It was a great period in my life, that was one of the great interim periods of my life was as the vice president of Dr. Parks. What were your other impressions of Dr. Parks? Since we're talking about him right now, what did you--? Well, basically I said it in that he was a great-- he delegated very astutely, quite smart. And he-- I think of a period of time he was president as sort of the golden age of Iowa State because you never had the feeling that somebody was out to get you. And there was a great feeling among the vice presidents that Dr. Parks was a great leader. And then the organizational setup was basically the four vice presidents and then the deans of each college. And there was--we added one or two colleges during that time. And, so, it's hard to describe, but it was just things were going so smoothly organization-wise. We had all kinds of money problems. We always did. Oh yeah. Well, what kind of problems? What kind of money problems? Well, the legislature had committees that were to sit and listen to the requests for funding from the various universities and other things like highway programs and non-educational things. So we always had to prepare for those kind of meetings. And the vice presidents that we had at that time with George Christensen and Carl Hamilton and we just seemed to get along so well. There was never any problems and, as I say, we never had a feeling that someone was going to come up and stab you in the back. Everybody was working for the same goal--the welfare of the university. And, also, I was toward the end of my--getting closer to retirement, I was interested in economic development and helping Iowa State, the state of Iowa, economically. And at that time, I had visited the Stanford Committee on--I gotta think for a moment--but, the research park was an idea that I thought would help here so I got the research park started. And the day I retired from the university I had an office out in building one here, which was the only building that was here at the time. And so I've been watching the research during my retired years and I don't run anything here, Steve Carter is the president, but I'm on the board of directors of the research park. And it's been doing well since it started. What were the goals of the research park? What did you hope to accomplish? Well, We have a--we have a mission statement which is on that, but the goals as stated in the mission statement to provide an environment that encourages the creation of new companies that are based upon discoveries-- scientific discoveries--of the university. That's basic, but it can go on beyond that. And so it is about fifty little companies out here trying to make a go of it. Some of them are doing very well and some won't make it, but this provides the environment and the knowledge of how to get started because a professor usually doesn't know anything about the business world. And there's always that lack of communication and this is what the park is for, to help the promoter of an idea or a product, help them get started and find out whether he's got a good idea or whether it's something he should just forget about. And is there some sort of program where if somebody starts, I guess, if somebody starts a project out here and they do very very well do they move on out of here-- Some have. --or do they stay? Yeah. We have a few here that have done that, yeah. There are several successful companies, but I wouldn't say that we have run across the whiz-bang company like Microsoft or something like that. But Iowa needs help in encouraging startup companies and that's what this is all about. Good. What other initiatives did you work on while you were at Iowa State? What other projects did you--? Oh. Well, I had a visit from my counterpart from Northern Illinois University and they had a free bus system there. And we had here city-owned buses and it was underfunded and losing money and wasn't doing very well. So, I formed a committee of students to join--to develop a bus system based on student fees and I figured a student group would be more successful working on doing their own thing than somebody telling them here's something you oughta do. So they did and CyRide is the result of that. Oh wow. And it's got Ames got rewarded city of the year a couple of years ago--several years ago--and so the CyRide system is so. And it's stable, it's running, and not losing too much money, I guess. And I've stepped out it I don't know, I'm not involved with it anymore. But I got it started. Oh great. And so I guess that's the main thing. Were you also involved in the creation of the Gateway Center? Gateway--. The Gateway. Oh yeah, yeah. The hotel. Yeah. How did that come about? Well. We were--this was during an expansion period. The growth of--the baby boomers were coming to college at that time and Hilton, Dr. Hilton had a dream of a center, a cultural center. And also he wanted to--and the cultural center is made up of Stephens Auditorium and Hilton Coliseum, and so on. He wanted a hotel, too, but didn't have money for a hotel, so what we did was we raised from about twenty-five alums to invest twenty-five thousand dollars apiece. And we take that money and go get a loan and build a hotel. And at that time there was no classy hotel at all in Ames. And people said, well, we don't need a hotel. Well, that wasn't the answer we wanted, so we got the company started. And there were a couple of critical editorials about myself and Carl Hamilton, the other--one of the other vice presidents. This editorial hinted that we were making money and all sort of things. So I wrote to the Des Moines Register and told them they could buy my shares if they wanted for what I paid for them and never got an answer to that. But, anyway, the hotel got started in 1972 and it almost went broke a couple of times. Then we got a fellow in to turn it around and he stayed for the next twenty-five years and made it one of the leading hotels in the state. What was his name? His name was Dave Percival[?] and he lives somewhere in Georgia now, I think, something like that. He did a turn around on it, you might say, and did a wonderful job. He saved it. So, yeah, that was our hotel. What we did--and the tax laws are a little different now--but what we did, each people invested twenty-five thousand dollars--and I was one of them-- we got them all to give that investment to the Iowa State Found--the ISU Foundation. So the ISU Foundation owns the hotel because of the gifts that we each did. Oh. And a few years ago they were getting--they got a few board members on the Iowa State Foundation who said we're not in the hotel business we better sell it. There ended up a big dog fight about that. And every once in a while it comes up. They say, well, and we had some supporters in among the group that funded it in the first place. And it makes a good profit for the foundation. And it raised the level of doing business in Ames, Iowa, in such a way that it really helped the whole community to be a first class community. And, so, yeah, that's Gateway. [sounds of switching tape on recorder] Everything is still going all right? Yes, everything's going fine. OK. And that was the Gateway. That's how the Gateway began? Yeah. I also saw that you were behind the establishment of the stadium, Jack Trice, or as it was called, Cyclone Stadium. How did--how did that come about, too? Well, the football games used to be played at Clyde Williams Field, which was an old stadium up on the hill, and it was decrepit and running down and something-- something had to be done. So, I was part of a committee that contained some alums and some staff members here to build a new stadium. So, this was under the Parks regime. So we raised some money in a fund drive to start to build a stadium and so we built it on the cuff, you might say. And the first game was Air Force and I've forgotten what year it is. But you can look it up. Yeah. So it was promoted by this committee and it was funded by the contributions that had been raised, which wasn't enough to fund it. We built it on the cuff, you might say. And, so, it was worthwhile to build it at that time because cost's recessive. We have a stadium that we paid seven and a half million dollars for that's worth forty or fifty million now. So, it was a good time to build it and not everybody felt comfortable about doing it at that time, but it was the right thing to do. Was there a lot of people who were attached to Clyde Williams Stadium or--? Not so much attached to Clyde Williams Field, but they just felt we didn't need a stadium that nice. And so, you might say Clyde Williams Field was-- really wasn't the class of stadium that we needed. And there are always people who say, well, that's good enough for us as a--. Well, as Jamie Pollard is trying to point out now, it isn't good enough for us. We need--we need something better in the total athletic program. And he's trying to do that. You mentioned something about student protests-- student riots--that you had to deal with that as well. How did--what happened? Was it the Vietnam riots? Well, yeah. Okay. It was Vietnam. And this was in the sixties, and you know what the sixties were like. And, so, the worst thing to happen is is a group of students got together and Marched over to the-- what's the name of that building--the armory-- The armory, okay.\r\n\r\n- -and marched over to the Armory had a sit in, in essence. And that's about the worst thing that happened here. We never stopped classes or anything like that, but it did arouse quite a mess. I was called to Des Moines to explain what was going on to the attorney general-- Oh! --of the state of Iowa and, oh, he-- he was quite insulting. He said, you bunch of softies up there, you don't know how to handle anything. He said, you should get the football team in there and chase them out. Really? Yes. Well, I came back home with that message, told Dr. Parks and then we told Stan Redeker, who was a furniture owner over in Boone and president of the Board of Regents at that time. And when I told him that the state attorney general suggested we get the football team to drive them out he says, the Iowa State football team? [laughter] Anyway. That was one of those little things that comes up, you know. Doesn't have anything to do with money, exactly, but you're involved. And that was the way Dr. Parks worked. He let you have your head if you were doing the right thing, and so we got along wonderfully well. Were there any other incidents on campus? I think there were some minor incidents, but right now I can't recall any specific details. But I do remember several student gatherings here on the front steps of Beardshear or out in the grassy area by the flagpole. But, we end--we didn't have any tragedies of any kind. We were fortunate, of course, in that regard. Very. Yep. Oh. I guess this kind of goes into that. What were your thoughts about the campus climate? How did it differ from when you were a student during the World--during the Vietnam War? How did that differ from when you were a student during right before World War II? How did the--? You mean the students right after World War II compared to-- Yeah. --the Vietnam War, right? Well. Even when I became vice president in sixty-six, female students still had to be in the dorm by ten o'clock. So there was a lot of changes during my period. Even when I became vice president in sixty-six, ROTC was still required of all freshman and sophomore male students, not female students. That changed. So it's kind of interesting the significant changes when you look back and see what they were. They seemed radical at the time and now we're living with them just as if we--as if they existed forever. But I think that's what happens when you look back and begin to really see the significance of the changes that have been made. And I guess I would say they're all mostly for the good. I can't tell you anything I would have changed back even if I had the opportunity. What have you been doing since you retired? I know you talked about spending time at the research park but what else have you been doing? Well, Let me see. Well, I used to--I got a dog just about the time I retired and raised him. We went for hikes every morning. And that was good for me and good for him. So, that was one of my activities. Another one. I used to do a little window shopping, you might say. Nothing very serious, I don't--I didn't buy a lot of things, but I did enjoy walking up and down the street--Main Street. Then, I belong to a breakfast club that meets every Saturday morning and you get to know people in an organization like that. And so. Did you want to take a break for a few minutes or--? Oh no, I'm fine. Okay. Do you want a break? Oh no, I'm fine. I'm just--. So, I like to--I like to talk with people, meet them and so on, and so that's one of the reasons, probably, that I enjoy this office. It has the remnants of my experience with being vice president and it keeps me in contact with the group of people who are running the park and I can just sort of sit here and watch the world go by, you might say. The park is doing well and so I'm kind of happy to come over here a couple, three times a week and see what's going on. I don't--I don't run anything and I don't--I can't tell you what's going on business wise, whether the park is going to take on a new--a new tenant or not. I have nothing to do with it. How would you characterize the great amount of growth that was going on during your tenure at Iowa State? While you were here--the buildings, the expansion of classes--how would you characterize that? Well. Mostly Iowa has extremely good-- the State of Iowa physically is a very comfortable place to live. And there are some people who don't care for the four seasons, they like one season. But most people do because the changing seasons is a refreshing thing. Iowa is very much a state in which people mostly say, I like it the way it is. And that's sort of a dangerous thing to think about because things don't change--or don't stay the way they are, they do change and you always have to be ready to accept that change or if you don't want it move out or do something. And so Iowa is sort of a backwards state when it comes to development because mostly because we have a satisfied customer who like it. And so that's a danger that we have to work with. Each community needs to have somebody who's always thinking about something new in order that people can hear good ideas, new ideas, and who can join in the change if it's worthwhile and then stomp it out if it's not worthwhile. And debate the difference. Argue out the differences. So it's-- I lived in New York, which I didn't mention, after I came back from the service--let's see, when was it--1950. I went to Columbia University on a scholarship. And then three or four summers after that I spent a whole year, fifty fifty-one, living in New York and going to Columbia University. And I was very glad to get back to Iowa. Meanwhile, people in New York often wonder what there is about Iowa and most of them haven't seen anything west of the Hudson River. They really haven't. They just don't know what it's like. I've talked with them. Tried to tell them what it's like. When a New Yorker comes out here, and some quite often do to continue on at the university[?], you know, I notice that a lot of them, they either love it or they hate it. And that's kind of the way New Yorkers are, they're so insulated, they don't know what's out there, in terms of living. And that's not unusual because they haven't been here, but it does bring out in people what it is they like to have as values--and if green grass and open spaces are thrilling they'll love it. But if it's not, basically it's not a very exciting state. And that's one of the problems Iowa has with keeping up with the times and making things happen. They're too comfortable. On the average most Iowans are too comfortable. Yes. And I say that having been born and raised in Iowa. But I got--I got things stirred up. Oh, good! What were your first impressions of Iowa State when you first came to campus? What did you think of the campus? Oh, I was bowled over with it, I mean, it was so awesome, it seemed like to me. I was just a--I'm a farm kid and I wasn't used to--wasn't used to big buildings and seeing professors who were world--worldwide known. And so I was awed, you might say. Meanwhile I enjoyed it, I enjoyed life. After my first quarter here I had a grade point average of three point two, or something like that, which I didn't think was very good. But I found out that that was one of the top averages and it kind of impressed me with the fact that I had--I had opportunities. There were opportunities here that I could have and did take advantage of. And I always came back to Ames. I went away to World War II and came back. Japan and came back. New York, Columbia University and came back. So this is the place where I wanted to be, I guess. How did you meet your wife? I had a fraternity brother and his wife, but she worked in the Food Science. And they the three of them-- the fraternity brother, his wife, and her friend working in the food science, decided to have a fourth for bridge and my fraternity brother, during my graduate years here, always teased me about getting married. So he invited me to the four for bridge and the fourth was my future wife in food science who is a friend of his wife, see, at work. Well, that started it and then one new year's eve we got together and that's the end of the story--the end of the courtship. We got married in June 1955. And we have--I have three kids now. And when my wife passed away we bought a plot in the University Cemetery and so that's where we'll be. What was the most enjoyable part about being part of Iowa State? What did you enjoy most? What was the most enjoyable part? What did you enjoy most about being part of Iowa State? Oh, I guess, I would say the friends that I had. Members of the community and also members of the faculty. I think the friends that I met was probably my best--those were the best part of the years that I was there. What was--what did you enjoy least about being at Iowa State? Oh, let's see. I hesitated to confront people with where I disagreed. I would rather stay quiet rather than face up to debating with them. I understand that. Hmm? I said I understand that part. Yeah. Was there anything else about your career at Iowa State that you wanted to mention that I didn't ask about? Well. No offhand, I guess. Nothing comes to mind. I hear one of several things are an interest for me, but I guess I've covered most of them that I can think of. Why, I guess I have one more question. How did you-- did you enjoy becoming an administrator over an instructor or would you have rather stayed an administrator--or an instructor? Well, I liked teaching and being up in front of a classroom and so on and preparing for classes and so on. But the thing about administration, I got the feeling of understanding the broader picture of life. The politics of life. And, so I think that--. Well, I guess that's the politics and economics of life and the needs that we have and where I then generated[?] my ideas of what Iowa needed to do and which I still try to promote whenever I can. So I guess that's about it. Okay. If there's nothing else you'd like to say, I think you've answered all of my questions. Well, the last thing--the project sounds very interesting and I will be waiting to see the outcome of this hundred and fiftieth--it's a-- what do you call your project? It's the Iowa State University oral history project. Oral history. Oral history. We are collecting as many memories as possible. Well, that's good. Worthwhile. Thank you. And thank you so much for agreeing to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29167/file/96801#t=0.0,5360.09143"}]}]}]}