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[Host] Have such a big room here. We lose a little intimacy. But upstairs they're showing movies and having the student senate meet, so there was really no choice. This is part of Socialist Week, as probably most of you know, and so let me plug the last event that will be on Socialist Week. Tomorrow night we're going to have Temy Rivera speak to us. He's a professor of political science at the University of the Philippines. He's presently in the United States doing research at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. And he's gonna come to us tomorrow night to talk at eight o'clock in the gallery upstairs. And as you probably all know, the Philippines are a hotspot. Many people think the Philippines will be the United States' next Vietnam. We have major military bases there, and there's also an insurrection movement that Cory Aquino has not done anything to get away from because, it turns out, her policies aren't all that different in many respects from what's gone on there. So, he's gonna be talking about the Philippine situation tomorrow night. Socialist Week is sponsored by the ISU Socialist Collective, and so just let me give a little plug to the Socialist Collective. As you all no doubt all do know, it's not all that east being a Socialist at Iowa State, and there aren't that many of us around. And so we need to get together and talk about things once in a while, just to stay sane. So we have a series of study groups that'll be going on over the year. And on your way out, you can pick up one of these things called Common Interests: A Forum for Debate. That will list the study group topics that we'll be talking about over the course of the year and give the meeting times. We're gonna be talking about things like the Chinese Revolution and revolutionary strategy today and the role of the marketplace in Socialism, what Socialist economics looks like, topics like that. So if you do think that Socialism isn't a dirty word and would like to hang out with other people that don't, at least once every couple of weeks, definitely try to come and talk with us. The first meeting is going to be tomorrow at 6:30 in room 1939 in the Memorial Union, and the topic is going to be The Place of Marxism in History, a pamphlet by Ernest Mandel. All of the readings that we're going to be talking about are collected in a pamphlet over there that you could check out, and that's available in room 37 of the Memorial Union for the incredibly low price of $5. So if you have, again, we definitely would welcome anybody to join our study group. Okay, tonight, I have the pleasure of introducing Professor Jon Torgerson. He has taught in the philosophy department at Drake University for the last 19 years. He was the chair of the philosophy department at Drake for the last, for a 10 year period. His present research interests are Kierkegaard and Socrates, and he's visited in Cuba and has written different articles about his experiences in Cuba, and that's what he wants to share with us tonight, and we're very pleased to have him. So, Professor Torgerson.\r\n\r\n- [Jon] Thank you. Whenever I speak to a room that has empty chairs, I just suppose, following Doonesbury, that they're clones of George Bush, and they might be educated, eventually, and show themselves. But perhaps they won't tonight, I don't know. I'm a philosopher, and I've discovered, although you might not be here tonight for that reason, I've discovered that the reason most people ever go and hear a philosopher speak is because they expect the answer to two questions. One of those questions is does God exist? And the other one is does premar-, is premarital sex okay? The answer to one of those, at least one of those, is yes. If I get time, I might tell you which one, and tell you the answer to the other one, but I don't know if I'll have time. For the older people who are here, who have been around for a while longer, it's not is premarital sex okay, but is extramarital sex okay? But I'm gonna stay away from that and talk about Cuba instead. In talking about Cuba, I wrote an article for the Des Moines Register after I came back from Cuba, and I just want to read a very little bit of it to you to give you my impression. This was really my impression of Cuba when I arrived there. January, for two weeks, I walked the clean, brightly lit streets of three cities in Cuba. Nowhere did I see any homeless people. Nowhere did I see garbage and litter in the streets or alleys. Nowhere did I see demonstrators. I did not see muggings. I did not read columns critical of the government. What I did see were bright-eyed, healthy people who voluntarily kept their own streets clean. I saw police, but I never saw an arrest or heard a siren. I saw ordinarily-dressed people with a variety of clothes, but all of much the same quality. I saw parks where people lined up every night to buy ice cream cones. I saw healthy, happy children who seemed oblivious to the color of their friends' skin. And what finally clinched it, I saw American cars, and none newer than 1959. I'd returned to my Midwestern youth. It finally dawned on me, present-day Cuba is really Ronald Reagan's vision of America. Except for the lack of millionaires, Cuba seems to be in many ways the image of America that Reagan still sees through his misty eyes. A long-ago America where there were clean neighborhoods, hard-working people, friendly police, no crime, safe streets, no hunger, a strong community spirit, no poverty, no dissent, and children obeying their elders. It's an America where more and more homes have TVs, and they're color TVs. It's an America where everyone seems to be the same color, even though they really are not. It is an America where there doesn't seem to be much class distinction, where the best off seem only a little better off than the others. It is an America in which people are proud of their system and think it is the answer to all of those other less well-off countries. It is much like the Midwestern community where I grew up, and which Reagan portrayed in his movie days, a homogenous meat and potatoes America. An America in which the doctor and banker owned Oldsmobiles, never Cadillacs, while we drove Chevys. A safe, secure, slightly boring America in which we had to entertain ourselves. In many ways, that's the image that I got of Cuba. It was really remarkable. When I decided to go to Cuba, one of the reasons I decided to go was I wanted to take some students someplace different. And I thought, well, why don't we go and visit an enemy of the United States and go someplace where we can visit an enemy of the United States and it doesn't cost very much to get there. Okay? It only cost us, I think, about $1300 including airfare to Miami and to Havana and back again, and two full weeks in Cuba with three meals a day and nice accommodations. And I thought that's a relatively inexpensive way to do it. But I never thought I would be comfortable in Cuba. But I was, and one of the reasons happens to be because I grew up and I was a teenager in the '50s. And bought, my first car was a '53 Studebaker Coupe. If you know what those look like. And one of the first cars I saw in Cuba was a '53 Studebaker Coupe, and I had my picture taken in it, and it still had the little circular emblem with the S in it. But Cuba seemed very comfortable. But there's more to Cuba than that, obviously. And so what I'd like to do is talk about Cuba, talk a bit about the history of Cuba so that you get a contrast between what Cuba is like. And developing out of that history, I'll give you some idea of why Cuba adopted the kind of government that it did. And finally also talk about present-day Cuba. And also present-day Cuban foreign policy, because I think Cuba has an interesting kind of foreign policy. Cuba, as you probably all know, prior to 1959 when the revolution occurred, was one of those countries, like many others, which suffered from tremendous exploitation. For example, over 70% of the land was controlled by, was owned by American-controlled sugar companies. And those sugar companies employed half a million workers. Cuba at the time had, in 19, prior to 1959, had a population of about six and a half million. It employed about half a million workers in the field, but only during four months. For the rest of the time, the workers were on their own. Most of the land which was not owned by the American-controlled sugar companies were owned by the big, large cattle ranchers, and they tended to employ very few workers. So, in 1958, Cuba, which had a population of six to six and a half million, suffered from a, really, a permanent unemployment rate of about 50%. At the same time, much Cuban capital was spent on luxury items. It's paradoxical that, in a country which in 1956, 1958, had a per capita income of $100 a year, spent a lot of foreign exchange on luxury items. And sometimes you will notice, when people defend Cuba prior to the, say that Cuba prior to the revolution was well-off, they will show you figures in which it shows that Cuba imported a lot of goods. And of course they could import a lot of goods only if they had a lot of money. It's misleading, because most of the importation of goods was done by two groups. One was the tourist industry, which for the most part as you all know was Mafia-controlled, and run, of course, by Americans. And the other people who imported a lot tended to be those people, those Cubans who made a lot of money off of the American industry, and they were very few. So, the tourist industry was mostly the hotels, prostitutes, the drugs, the gambling, and the beaches. After I got back from Cuba, and after I had written that article on Cuba for the Des Moines Register, I got a call early one morning from a farmer in southern Iowa. He had this very nice, gruff voice, and he said, this is about eight in the morning, he said, \"I read your article on Cuba, \"and I'm a farmer here in southern Iowa, \"well, central Iowa.\" And I thought, oh, geez, here goes. He said, \"I just want you to know \"that I, that your article reminded me \"of something that I had not read for a long, \"that I had not remembered for a long time.\" And he said, \"That's when I was in Cuba in the '50s \"as a sailor, because a lot of sailors, of course, \"had shore leave in Cuba.\" He said, \"I was at the beaches.\" And he told me the beach, and it's one I'd been at. And he said, \"There was a sign up which said \"'No dogs or Cubans allowed.'\" And that really drove home to me the point that I had been told when I was in Cuba, that Cubans were not allowed to use the beaches, and so one of the first things that happened after the revolution was that the Cubans started using the beaches. But I thought, well, that might just be, you know, one of those nice little stories that they like to tell but it's not true. But he drove that point home to me again. And it seemed that the Cubans really were, of course, not allowed to use the beaches because they might clutter it up for the tourists. Now, so the people who tended to be well-off in Cuba were either the Americans who lived there or else the few people who worked, the few Cubans who worked for the government, I'm sorry, for the American companies, and were, made extraordinary amounts of money. Now, so they're the ones who did most of the importing of goods. If you go to Cuba, you can see really magnificent houses, owned by, which were owned by some of the people, both the Cubans and the Americans. Now, so you had a vast underclass in Cuba prior to 1959, and this vast underclass was underfed, they were illiterate, they had little education, very inadequate housing, and then Castro took over. Castro, if you've read anything about the revolution, Castro seemed at the time not to, some people want to argue that Castro was a Communist from the beginning. I'm inclined to think that he wasn't. But I'm inclined to think that, if you look at some of his early speeches, and if you look at his own background, he tended to have a very strong social conscience. And this social conscience arose, interestingly enough, when he starts talking about his Jesuit background, his Jesuit education. Part of it rose out of that Jesuit education. Although not necessarily in the ways in which they intended it, but he did have some strong influences in that way. So, he had a very strong social conscience. He came, not from Havana, but he came from southeastern, I believe it's southeastern Cuba. Santiago de Cuba, which is the beautiful place where the mountains are, usual place where revolutions tend to start. It's where José Martí started his revolution. And so Castro followed this route, started out in the rural areas of Cuba, and eventually worked his way, didn't get to Havana until after the revolution was really successful and Batista had been kicked out. Very often we think of revolutions as starting in the large cities and then expanding to the countryside. The one in Cuba started the other way. Started in the countryside and eventually got to Havana. And it's probably because of this that Castro pushed for the kinds of reforms that he did. Castro said, essentially, that there's no sense talking about a political process, or people participating in the political process, until we take care of certain kinds of social and economic rights. Those social and economic rights are what we have to focus on first. Political rights will come afterwards. The social and economic rights which Castro was most concerned about were those basic rights, or what he considered the basic rights, of food, clothing, shelter, medical care, and education. He said it makes no sense to talk about someone having the right to vote if they don't have any food. We in the United States tend to think of it in just the opposite way. We in the United States, probably because of the way the country developed, and partly because of the American myth, tend to think, okay, if we had certain kinds of basic political and civil rights, that out of those political and civil rights will grow greater social and economic equality. So, if you give people the right to vote, the right to free speech, the right to religion, freedom of religion, the right to freedom of movement, then out of that will blossom greater social and economic equality. It's essentially what Jack Kemp said at Drake last Spring. He said in almost those terms, in presenting the American dream. Well, notice partly, that sort of works in a country like early America, as long as you were white and male of course. But in early America, where if you didn't like the way things were in Pennsylvania, you could move a little farther west. Okay? And if you didn't like working for somebody, you could go get your own little piece of land and set up, and start farming that. So, we had a lot of vast resources available. Notice if you're an island nation, you don't have that kind of luxury to move farther away. Okay, so partly, in the United States, I think we can attribute that notion of putting political and civil rights as sort of basic and having a great confidence in them, because of our, because of the historical situation. Of course it does ignore, certainly, a lot of facts about American history. And it certainly isn't applicable to the United States, or less applicable to the United States now when we have no place where we can move. So, Castro essentially set about to make improvements in education, medical care, and food and housing, clothing, okay? And when I got to Cuba, one of the things that struck me was how successful they were. For example, illiteracy. Something like 60% of the people were illiterate. In one of the great triumphs of the Castro revolution, and people have to admit that whether they look favorably on the revolution or not, but one of the great triumphs was conquering illiteracy. Castro went to the United Nations and he said, \"Within two years we will get rid of illiteracy. \"We'll make 90% of our people literate.\" And came back to Cuba, and he said, \"Okay, now, I said this, now we have to do it. \"So try to figure out a way to do it.\" And essentially what they did is they formed brigades of youth who went out. And, for example, we met this one woman whose 14 year old son was one of these, and he went to an area, to a part of the country where he didn't live before. He worked in the fields during the day, and he taught other people how to read at night. Okay, so they have a symbol, which is of young, teenage children carrying a lantern and I think it's a pitchfork, I can't remember for sure anymore, to symbolize the literacy movement. And if you go to the literacy museum, you can see, they have volumes and volumes of letters that people wrote to Castro. People, after they had learned how to read and to write, they wrote to Castro, and you could pick out any volume you want. We happened to pick out one which said, and we opened it up in the middle someplace, and here is a letter to Castro, and it was written on. And essentially the person thanked Castro for sending whoever it was to teach him how to read, and by the way our road to our village is very poor, could you make sure that it gets paved? Okay, so part of the emphasis, part of the notion of teaching people literacy, was that they could not become part of the political process in Cuba until they learned, until they're literate. If you don't become literate, you can't ask Castro for a paved road. And so the literacy campaign was very successful. The medical care in Cuba, if you look at Cuba, Cuba has essentially the same life expectancy as the average American does. Their infant mortality rate is about the same as in the United States. Their caloric intake is slightly lower than ours, and they do have rationing. But they get most of the food they need. The medical care is free, and it's easily available, because what they decided to do was they decided to set up medical clinics in all the provinces first, instead of focusing on Havana and building a large hospital. The initial plan was to build a large hospital in Havana. They quickly decided not to do that. They decided instead to build clinics all over Cuba and have those clinics then have a regional hospital, and finally, when all of this was in place, to have a large research hospital. They now have this 25 story large research hospital in Havana, which they finished about five or six years ago, in which they do, they've done heart transplants and kidney transplants, and they do a lot of research. But it's their one research hospital. But they didn't build that until after they took care of the people in the provinces. And so what seems really interesting about Cuba is that there was a genuine concern with taking care of the basic social and economic rights of the people. Now, they still haven't exactly got the civil and political rights that one would expect, that we talk about, and in which we tend to judge governments. There is getting to be more and more freedom of religion. For example, when I was there almost three years ago, there were Christmas trees in the hotel. And Castro's, there was a series of interviews with Castro about religion, and it was the hottest selling book in Cuba, it was called Fidel and Religion, in which Castro took a, really had taken a new look at religion, and maybe it's because he's getting older, I don't know. You know, as he faces those later years he might be becoming more religious. Or it might be the influence of liberation theology in other countries, especially in Nicaragua, where the Church had a large part in the movement there, and perhaps unlike the situation in Cuba, where the Catholic Church at least tended, since the revolution occurred in Cuba before Vatican II, the Catholic Church in Cuba tended to be what we would consider to be very reactionary. Okay, and they still tend to be that way. But Castro seems to be much more sympathetic to religion. We met a wonderful old man one day when we were out walking. And we were across from the Russian consulate in Santiago de Cuba, which is the second largest city in Cuba. And this old man motioned for us to come across the street. And we went across, and he was a member of the Communist party who had retired. And he asked us if we wanted to come in and have coffee. He didn't speak any English, of course. But we, and I didn't speak, I speak very, very little Spanish, but another friend of mine who was with us spoke a lot of Spanish. And so we managed to converse. And he said that he was not a Christian, because one cannot be a Christian and be a member of the Communist party. But he said he was very sympathetic with many of the things in the Bible, and he gave a line which seems to be almost a standard line now, which is that Jesus was the first Socialist. Because Jesus said give everything away and follow Him. And he said that's what, essentially what Socialism says, so that's why Jesus was a Socialist. Castro has said that he foresees in the near future that members of, that people can be a Christian and be a member of the Communist party at the same time. He expects that to change. So, there seems to be some movement towards freedom of religion. We met, the group I happened to go with were from the United Church of Christ, a study group sponsored by them, and so we met with a lot of churches, all Protestant churches. And they were very open in talking, and they are getting more membership. One of the nicest stories they told was at the Vedado Methodist Church in Havana. And Jesse, this woman was talking about it, and she said in 1964, Jesse Jackson was in Havana. He was there for a Martin Luther King seminar. And one day, she said, she said that while Jesse Jackson was there, he was going to come and speak at the Methodist Church. Well, prior to speaking at the Methodist Church, he had a meeting with Castro. And so he was meeting with Castro, and, you know, Jesse Jackson always runs late no matter where he is, he's always late for everything. And Fidel Castro would put Jesse Jackson to shame as far as running late. And so Jesse was actually getting nervous, because he was late for the meeting at the church. And finally he told Castro, he said, \"I'm sorry, but I have to go. \"I have to go up to the Methodist Church \"and give a talk.\" And Fidel said, \"Okay, I'll walk you there.\" And so Fidel got out, and they walked out in the boulevard, and this very large boulevard leading up to the church. And as they walked along, it was Castro's old neighborhood. And so all the people started coming out, and people would run up ahead and say that Castro was walking along with Jesse Jackson, and all these people came out. Pretty soon, word got to the church that he was going to be there, that Jesse was actually being walked up to the church by Fidel. And everything was abuzz 'cause the church was full. And finally they got to the church, and Jesse said, \"Well, would you like to come in and speak?\" And Fidel said, \"Okay.\" And, to their knowledge, it was the first time Fidel had been in a church since the revolution. And so he walked into the church. They had to find a chair for him. Fidel sat down, Jesse spoke, Fidel got up and spoke, and he spoke from the pulpit. And they said at one time he put his hands down on the Bible and she said his hands just flew off like that! As if, you know, electric shock. And what she said was really very interesting, she said that, she said, \"You know, the church, \"for so long, had had its say in history. \"And now was time for the church to be silent \"and for the revolution to work itself, \"for the church to keep silent \"and for the revolution to work itself through history.\" And she said there was a marvelous example, she thought, of how far freedom of religion had come in Cuba. Now, we happened to meet with the member of the Communist party, the head of the Communist party's division on religious affairs. And during our meeting with him, I asked him if he would allow, I said, for example, that in the United States during the Vietnam War we had church groups which spoke up very strongly against American policy. And I said, would you allow that, for example, on Angola? Would you allow church to speak out strongly against Angola? And he, and I said I'm not saying that Angola's the same as Vietnam, that's beside the point. But if a church were to do that? And he said, \"No.\" He said, \"If they were to do that, \"they would just be acting as American puppets.\" And I said, no, if they weren't acting as American puppets, but came up with that position independently. And he said, \"No.\" He said, \"They can go so far, but they can't \"criticize certain fundamental notions of the government.\" And so I think that was rather revealing about how far they will allow freedom of speech and how far they will allow freedom of religion. On the other hand, the church there, for example, has had a lot of say on protecting the rights of individuals. For example, at the Mariel incident, in which a lot of people left Cuba. Elected to stay behind were being ostracized by the people in the community. And the church went to the minister of religious affairs, who then went to Castro, and complained about the fact that these people were being ostracized, saying that it was not fair to ostracize them, and that they ought to do something about it. And Castro, Castro and the minister for religious affairs and other people tried to get a change of opinion on that. And so they cite that as an example of where the church can have a say. Other people we met, for example we met a family. A Cuban in Des Moines asked me to bring some gifts to his family in Cuba. And he had left Cuba because he was unhappy. And so he asked us to bring presents for them, for his family there. And we did, and we met an interesting group of people. His mother and father were trying to get out of Cuba, but they couldn't because his father was a doctor. Doctors are needed in Cuba, and so he couldn't leave Cuba until he was 65. The Cuban attitude is, essentially, that they spend a lot of money training you and providing education for you, and so you owe the Cuban government for that education and for the opportunity it has given you. And so, essentially, you're not free to leave the country if you want to. At least, that seemed to be the attitude that they had at that time. Interestingly enough, they have since left Cuba, and are now living in Miami. We met other people, and so they're unhappy with the situation. When I mentioned that we'd been at the Methodist Church, they said, \"Ah, the political church.\" Okay, so they thought that that church, they said, \"People who belong to that church \"get extra money from the government.\" Okay, and that was the suggestion. They happened to be very conservative themselves. But other members, one of their, some of their children, and some of their nieces and nephews whom we met with who were, one of them was going to be going to Angola. Okay, not as a soldier, he's going to Angola as a technician to help, he was especially good at constructing x-ray equipment for hospitals. So that was going to be his job in Angola. Of course, he had served in the military, and as somebody who had served in the military, he remained in the militia. Okay, so when you hear the count that there are 50,000 Cubans, or Cuban soldiers in Angola, he's one of them. But he's not there as a soldier, he's there as a medical technician. Pretty obvious, but we tend to count him as just another soldier. The same kind of thing happened with most of the people in Grenada, most of the Cubans in Grenada, who were listed as soldiers, who were really construction workers who also remained members of the militia, because almost every adult in Cuba, I think under the age of 45, is a member of the militia. They have some kind of training. And he said he thinks that Cuba is really wonderful. He says that their educational system is really excellent, and we had gone to Lenin High School and visited it and met some of the students. And he told us that he had also gone to that, and he said, \"Did you see the buildings?\" And I said, yeah, they were very nice. And he said that when he went there, there was only one building, but he helped to construct two more buildings. Because what you do is you work half days and go to school half days. The notion is that you help to pay for your education that way, make that kind of contribution. And so he was very pleased with Cuba. He wasn't especially anxious to go to Angola. In much the same way that most people who are essentially drafted aren't anxious to go wherever they're sent, but he recognized that it was his obligation to do so. And so he was very pleased with the government. He had no intention of leaving. One of his cousins could hardly wait to get out of Cuba. And is, in fact, working in, what is it, in Miami, or in Florida, Disney World, isn't it? He's since gotten out and is working at Disney World. I don't know why, he was a really resourceful person. He took us to some of the interesting nightclubs in Cuba that normally you don't get into, where you can see Cuban Gypsies, which I had never seen before. Or had never even heard of, and officially they don't exist, I guess. So, you can meet all kinds of different people, and we had the opportunity to meet these people and find out what they really thought. And they were surprisingly open to me, to us, at least. In having us in their apartment, and in meeting with us and talking rather openly. So I was quite pleased with that. The other, two other things I'd like to mention before I throw it open to discussion is, or to question. One thing I'd like to mention is that we had a meeting with a woman from the, can't remember the title of it now all the sudden. Committee for, oh, it's not committee, but it's essentially committee for women's rights. Do you remember the name? What? Not in this one now, not now. I can't remember what it was. Anyhow, it's a women's rights group which is part of the Cuban government. And this woman was most interesting. Of all the officials that we met with, she was probably the most interesting, the most forthright. Very often when you met with officials from the government, if they started saying certain kinds of things they'd ask you to turn off your tape recorder, because people would be tape recording what they had to say. If they started talking about personal things, they'd ask you to turn it off. She'd start talking about personal things and somebody said, \"Do you want us \"to turn off the tape recorder?\" She said, \"No, that's fine.\" She talked like any woman from any feminist from any country whatsoever about the kinds of problems. First thing she said to us is, \"We women here in Cuba have absolute equality. \"In law. In fact, we're not even close to it.\" That's how she started out, and it was so refreshing, nothing guarded. She talks about, she talked about the problems, but she also explained a lot about the kinds of advances they had made, how, for, and. Advances in terms of childcare. Advances in terms of medical care for the children. She talked about one of the problems, which is an interesting kind of problem that they have, is in terms of birth control. She said, \"Right now, the accepted form, \"or the most common form of birth control in Cuba \"is abortion.\" That when a woman gets pregnant, and the average female gets pregnant at the age of about 16 or 17, that she goes to the doctor and has an abortion. Now, what's interesting about that is that you can only have that if medical care is really freely available. If Cubans didn't have very good medical care, they couldn't have abortions, because they wouldn't have access to doctors. But they have such easy access to doctors that, as soon as a woman thinks she's pregnant, she goes to the doctor. And she keeps going to the doctor because it's free. And so she can choose to have an abortion. They're trying to push for men to have vasectomies, but she said so far there have only been two vasectomies in Cuba. And our guide in Cuba was a male, and as soon as she started talking about vasectomies, he got up and started pacing and mumbling! I mean, he was really unhappy, it made him very uncomfortable to have that topic discussed. So, as one of our going-away presents to him, we made a certificate which entitled him to one free vasectomy at any clinic in Cuba. But the women's movement is, she says, there's just such a strong difference between what the law says. And they have a family code, which is a very nice family code as written. But she says, \"If you look at what's written \"and what is actually practiced, \"we still have a long way to go.\" One of the things they've done is more and more women are working, and as a consequence, women just cannot do the kind of shopping that they once used to do, which is standing in lines and going from one kind of shop to another kind of shop. And so now what they have are employees of the stores who get food baskets. What you do is you drop off a list of what you need at one central distributing place, drop off a list of what you need, and at the end of the day you come back and you can pick that up. So women don't have to do the shopping anymore. Quite an advance for them. Men are supposed to have more responsibility, although they still don't take it. Housing, interestingly enough, if a woman owns an apartment, in Cuba you used to rent apartments from the government, you pay 10, about 10% of your income, but now in Cuba, Castro, more and more people can own their own housing. Which had the awful side effect, as far as Castro was concerned, of causing people to, that once they owned it, they started selling it for a profit, because they are still very short of housing in Cuba. And this really upset Castro, because he wanted people to own the property, but he didn't want them to sell it for a profit. And so they're trying to work this out. And essentially they're trying to put in some clauses where you have to wait so long before you can sell your house. But in Cuba now, if a woman owns the apartment and she gets married and her husband moves in, then if they get a divorce, he has to move out. He has no claim to ownership of that apartment whatsoever. The other way around, too, if the male owns the apartment. And so it's, they're trying very hard to recognize the rights of women. And even in the nightclubs, where they used to have strippers, bare-breasted women, they complained to Castro about that, and Castro has banned that, so, because of, Castro really seems to be very sensitive to feminist issues. Now, the other thing I'd like to talk about before we go on is Cuban foreign policy. Cuban foreign policy, the traditional notion, and this is controversial and it's hard to find out what's really going on. I'm mean, it's hard enough to find out what our own foreign policy is here in the United States, right? So to find out what Cuban foreign policy is is equally difficult or more difficult. But what seems to be the case is that Cuba has the notion that its system is the best system for any Third World country. That any Third World country ought to look to Cuba if it wants a successful model, and not look to the United States, not look to the Soviet Union. Okay, so Cuba, that's one of the things that Cuba reminded me of the United States, that, back in the '50s and before, we in the United States, and up to the early '60s, we in the United States thought we had the best system. That if every other country would adopt our system, they would be better off, okay? Huh? Well, there's, we've gone through a certain, the government still might, but a lot of other people have gone through a certain disillusionment about that. But in Cuba you find that attitude, they have the best system, all the Third World countries ought to look to their system in order to, if they really want to have a good model, that it is a successful one. And since they believe that, they have a strong foreign policy of going out and sending people to other countries. They have doctors, for example, in 38 different countries. They have other kinds of medical personnel and teachers and everything else in all kinds of countries. They bring high school students from other countries to Cuba, to what is called the Isle of Youth, to help educate them. Some people accuse that, say that that's a terrorist island. To train terrorists from various countries, but you can go visit that island if you want to. Did you visit?\r\n\r\n- [Woman] I didn't get to go there.\r\n\r\n- [Jon] But, I didn't either. We had our choice of going either to Santiago de Cuba or going to the Isle of Youth, and we chose Santiago de Cuba. But people I've talked to have been there say there's nothing nefarious going on. And I doubt that there is. But they're very proud of their system. And since they're proud of their system, they want to make sure that other countries, they want to take part in their revolution and foment revolution in certain other countries. After all, Che went to Bolivia in 1967. Castro was one of the early backers of the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. As far as I can tell, and what I've read other places, it seems that the Cubans are really on the forefront. The Cubans really have their own foreign policy, and that they do not function at all as puppets of the Soviet Union. Very often we're told that the Cubans are just puppets of the Soviet Union and they just do whatever the Soviet Union tells them to do. What seems to have happened is that the Soviet Union has been drawn into a number of areas. For example, Nicaragua. It was drawn into Nicaragua by the Cubans, the Cubans went first and brought in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union doesn't, in many ways, doesn't seem too anxious to remain in Nicaragua. So, as a consequence, whenever the United States tends, starts making peaceful overtures to Nicaragua. You know, we always say how can Ortega screw it up so badly? Here we just say we're not going to do such and such to it, and Ortega runs off to Moscow. Okay, have you heard that kind of talk? And one kind of explanation for that, I don't know if it's correct or not but it's interesting, is that Ortega is doing that because he's afraid he'll lose the support of the Soviet Union. Because the Soviet Union does not want to be in Nicaragua as much as Cuba wants to have a presence in Nicaragua. Because Cuba thinks that if Nicaragua adopts the Cuban model, it will become successful. One of the first things that happened after the revolution in Nicaragua was they started a literacy campaign modeled after the literacy campaign of Cuba. The only difficulty was that, after it had got off to what seems to be a fairly good start, it was upset by the Somozans, by so much anti-revolution, or by the Contras who disrupted it. In fact, that was one of their goals, was to disrupt the literacy campaign. So it seems that Nicaragua really has tried to pattern itself after, in certain ways, after Cuba. And I'm inclined to think, myself, that Cuba does provide a good model for Third World countries. 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It's a sustainer protector and creator of the distinctively human presence of the symbolical. And on behalf of that reprise, we should listen to Emerson who told us and who now tell us, and by the way parenthetically the collapse at the time sense\r\n\r\n- Equally in the national. So, if you want it to say that Cuba is surviving on the prosperity of the Soviet Union, at least they're a lot smarter than we are because we are surviving on the. We are prosperity rests on the backs of our children and grandchildren. Okay, so at least they seem to be smarter in that respect. So, they seem to be successful in that way and they serve as a good model for other countries. I think if other countries would look to Cuba, they might find that it's a much better way. Oh, that's all fine. Okay, I'm sorry I got off track. But if you look at Haiti, Haiti has gotten billions and billions of dollars of supports from the United States. And what do you have in Haiti? You have essentially a country in which half of all children under five die. You have no jobs. You have the illiteracy, and extremely oppressed people. United States essentially had the chance to do in Haiti what Cuba did in Cuba. There isn't that much difference between those two countries. And yet Cuba seems to be a successful model. And Haiti just seems to remain essentially a corrupt country. And I think there's an interesting lesson there. And the lesson is not that the Soviet Union supported Cuba and we supported Haiti. The lesson is that you had essentially a dictator in Castro, who had a social conscience. And much of that social conscience was really driven by socialist principles. And that those socialist principles were more important than allowing people to achieve any kind of wealth. And as a consequence in Cuba, Cuba refuses, at least as far as I can tell so far, Cuba sort of experimented with a kind of capitalism. When I was there, they bragged about what they call the parallel markets, which is markets where people who have excess goods could go sell those goods. What Castro found out was that people were starting to make enormous amounts of money. Some people were, and this upset him. So he's abolished all parallel markets. Essentially, he's saying, no, we cannot go the capitalist route. We can not even introduce capitalism a little bit because it's corrupted. He's saying that they can not do what for example is going on in China. Or what we hear is going to go on in the Soviet Union. Castro has really returned to the first principles that he talked about after the revolution. And that is creating a new socialist person. Someone who is driven not by wanting to accumulate any kind of wealth but someone who is concerned with essentially their position relative to other positions. We asked a Cuban, the doorman in Havana. We said, how do you feel when you don't have freedom of speech and other kinds of freedoms here, does that bother you? And he said, to me being free, he said, to me I am free because I know that my fellow Cubans are not starving to death. He said, that really provides freedom for me and that's what I think is the important kind of freedom to have. And essentially that's what Castro that person would seem to be the ideal that Castro's striving for that notion of freedom is one which is really tied to the notion that one is free when other people are well off. As well off as you are. Now, I've sort of jumped around a little bit, tried to touch some of the issues. Do some of you have some questions? Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Trying to encourage tourism in Cuba, 'cause there were gonna, government is gonna put a ban to tourist spots just\r\n\r\n- Okay, when you go to Cuba, there are certain shops that you can go into that the Cubans can't go into, okay. And you can go in and buy items, very cheaply. The same item if you see it in a store window for Cuban is much more expensive in terms of I think a pesos is worth 80 pesos equal to a dollar and 11 cents, or it was at the time I was there. And so, although on the street, people offered us lots of money for dollars, lots of pesos for dollars. Okay what they want to do is they want the hard currency, American currency, essentially. And so they have all these goods available for us that they don't put to Cuban. And if I want to, for example, this family we visited, he had one guy, Luis had a girlfriend from Guatemala who was going to the university of Havana. And so she would go in and buy everything that they needed. She, you know, I walked into there. I should tell you this. I walked into their apartment for the first time, walked in the door and looked around and here they were watching Yentl on their VCR with their color TV, okay. Now part of those goods were provided by relatives who would come down and buy those things for them, but they weren't allowed to buy them themselves. So, they're trying to get American dollars, East Germany, when East Germans come to Cuba, they have to trade their money in for dollars, okay and spend the dollars there. So there are those kinds of shops. Now that we tended to stay at middle range hotels when we were there except for one night when our hotel, they made a mistake and so we couldn't get back into our hotel and the only one that was available was the El Presidente where Lansky, the big mobster used live up on the penthouse. And there was a hotel which they had just reconditioned that had sat empty for quite a long time. They had reconditioned into beautiful, beautiful hotel, just fantastic. I mean, just a mosaic and everything else just really very nice. It was the only hotel we stayed in with the carpeting and the carpeting was very plush. But interestingly enough, we went down to dinner and right across from us was a family, which was celebrating, which was having a birthday party. And it was a family of Cubans. And we asked them what they did and they didn't have any kind of remarkable job, but they were eating there. And so I don't know if they're setting up places for, you know, I just don't know if it's true enough, but I'm inclined to think that, that they wouldn't dare do it. I was in Yugoslavia however, once. And they set up casinos, in Yugoslavia for foreigners to gamble. But the Yugoslavian can not gambling at casinos 'cause essentially gambling is corrupting. And so they don't want to corrupt their own citizens, but they'll take the money from the corrupted foreigners. So maybe Cubans doing that, but I just haven't heard that they are. I'd be surprised if they did not to get some kinds of just like, just as I would be surprised that the Cubans were involved in drug trade, as you heard the accusations against Castro, I'd be surprised because it is so corrupting. Now Castro does support Noriega in Panama. Which sounds odd. But Castro supports Noriega as far as I can tell you Castro supports Noriega in Panama is because the United States is opposed is having problems with Noriega. And it's his way of taking a swipe at the United States. And he might've even provided some kind at some kind of arrangement with certain kinds of arrangements with Noriega. But I don't think Cubans are in the drug trade. On the other hand, I met a Cuban who said that he knew drug smugglers and would I liked to meet him. And I said, yes. And he said, well, I can arrange it in a week and I said, well, I'll be gone in a week. and he said, that's too bad. Now, I don't know if he figured that saying he would arrange it in a week, would a pretty much guaranteed that I wouldn't meet him or not. We had a few of those kinds of experiences where they say, if you want to see certain things and we'd say yes and then they said, well, we can't quite a range of right away and it'd be, usually it turned out to be a time when we couldn't see him. Yes. Yeah, there was an attempt to industrialized, but Cuba is just in a real bad situation. You know, Cuba's denied access to its most natural market. The United States and the price of sugar is kept depressed because the, the United States the United States tries so much to protect its own sugar industry that is harmful to other sugar producing countries. So Cuba is just in a real bind and they're really bitter about it. They think you know they say, if Cuba look we're located anywhere else, but not 90 miles from the American border the American government would recognize it would trade with it and probably have a good relationship with it and they said but we can't move Cuba and we don't intend to. And so I think they find that very frustrating. They also feel very threatened by the United States. They really do believe that the United States still might try to invade Cuba. And if you, you know, sort of say, geez, we'd never do that, can I remind you of Grenada. Or after I got back where one of the trial balloons, you know, we had the radio Marti, which is the radio that transmits the truth to Cuba and they tried to block it. And there was a suggestion in the Reagan government that what we have to do is have a surgical strike against the radio station, which was blocking radio Marti, okay. And of course, if you know what surgical strike means, it means what is it hitting within 20 miles at the target. So surgical strikes always sound nice, but they're not surgeon has a very big knife. So the Cubans are really, you know, still are afraid that the United States will triumph also, interestingly enough, that can be one of those ways in which, helps to keep people from having full of freedom of speech. As long as you feel like it is a state of emergency, then it's, you know, people are more likely to tolerate certain limitations than so their rights.\r\n\r\n- Okay the United States and Puerto Rico Mexico used to be the no mixed trade. There might be still one or two South American countries, but I'm not sure if any of them anymore are not involved, England's involved in trade. Chile, is that it? Okay. Canada is involved in trade and if you go to the beaches in Cuba, they still have the beautiful beaches you meet people from Canada and England and Finland and other countries because it's relatively inexpensive and very nice place to vacation. But there are many countries which are that embargo Cuba anymore. There are some which still have rather strained relationships with them. Some of the South American countries, because what Cuba does for example is Cuba accepts refugees from other countries, from Chile and from Columbia and El Salvador and places like that. They have refugees in Cuba who're living there and supported by the government and so that causes a certain amount of friction. Yeah. The bureaucrats? Probably that the most interesting story. More of the interesting stories is that, you know, Castro's sister lives in Miami, okay. Castro sister used to live in Cuba and, but the story is, and this was told to us by the people who don't, especially like Castro, the story is that she lives so high on the hog and Castro kept telling her she couldn't do it anymore. And finally he said, not only can you, can't you do it. I might tell you to stop. He just really cut out all her phones. Instead, if you don't like it, you can leave and so she moved to Miami. In other words, he would not tolerate his own sister living really high on the hog. One of the average doctor in Cuba makes about 20 to 50 pesos a month. The head of surgery makes 450 pesos a month. So he makes slightly almost twice what the average doctor makes. But that's still not very much, we met musicians who were making about the same amount as the doctor did. Castro seems not to live very high on the hog himself does not, you know, doesn't live, he has a few apartments, but one of his houses, as far as I can say, one of the most beautiful house, one of the nicest houses we saw was in a cattle ranch, that's run by his brother Ramon. And they said Castro when he wants to get away, he goes and lives in that house. But when he's not living in that house, they use that house to house people who come through and are visiting Cuba. And so there'll be the love there use it for foreigners a lot. So it's used for other purposes, but it just doesn't, you know, you just, from most of the people we talked to just doesn't seem to be the place that they think a lot of people are living well. Now Chester did recognize that there was some corruption going on here and that's one of the reasons why he switched away from this sort of capitalist, you know, allowing, this kind of capitalist intrusion into Cuba, because there were some people who were really making a lot of money in Castro wouldn't tolerate it. But when we went to the Havana Libra hotel, which used to be the Hilton, we were walking up there. And as soon as I got within about a block, I turned to the guy who was along to go have a drink and I said, how come there are all those Mercedes parked out in front of the hotel? And he says, those belong to the embassies. Then it seems to be the case that they really good, they you know, they had the embassy license plates and things like that. He said, he said, he said, you just keep looking and see if you can find a nice cars for the bureaucrats, the nicest cars. In fact, they said that the nicest cars were American cars, that when they had Russian cars, people would prefer the old American cars to the new Russian cars. Cause the old American cars were better that's what they told us.\r\n\r\n- Where did they get the parts?\r\n\r\n- Where did they get the parts. They said, you would be amazed at how fantastic they are at improvising and cannibalizing other cars. And It's just amazing to see Hudson's and Packard's and Desoto's and Studebaker's and everything else just amazing. And to get in and then they still keep them in relatively good shape. Yeah, I think he's 62. Yeah, the question is, what about the next round of political leaders? Somebody suggested that when he retires, if he does retire, he's supposed to retire at 65. It'll be interesting to see if he does. When Castro goes supposedly his brother, Ramon is next in line, but in an interview with him that I read in a Mexican paper, this suggests what Castro says is he said, you know what? He said, it's really been very easy for me to exercise political leadership because I led the revolution and so people look at me as the founding father of Cuba, modern Cuba. And so he said, I essentially don't have to prove myself to the people. But he said, the next round of leaders will have to prove themselves to the people. They will have a different relationship. And if the people are really unhappy, they're not going to say yes, but you know we can't do anything about it you know, we will put up with this because he helped to bring about the revolution. The next group of leaders will not have led the revolution. So Castro has done is he's really gotten rid of most of his old powers who were in the revolution and replaced them with a lot of blacks and a lot of women that the makeup of the, the central committee in Cuba as the balance has changed rather dramatically. And it might be the case that he's, you know, that he's doing this because he is trying to develop new leadership out of them. But it that will be very interesting because as he says, they won't, the people won't make the sacrifice automatically just because he asked them to the next group of leaders come up they asked Cubans to make sacrifices, they'll have to get very good reasons. He said that they have now is to give good reasons. They just do it. I hope they don't that it's not very modern. I mean row ... that it's wrong classroom takes over. He seems to be even more of a hard line, seems to be rather a hard liner. Ramon was his other brothers seems to be the interesting one, but he is contained to run a very large dairy farm. It'll just be interesting to see what happens. That's always, the difficulty is the second generation of leadership of any country, which has set up revolution. But they create emphasis on their own food. They've asked farmers to join cooperatives, but farmers don't have to join cooperatives. If you do join cooperatives, they at least they have certain kinds of model. You know, I don't know how many of these are ran, but where we were, we went and visited model kinds of centralized lower communities that they built for the farmers, which are very nice and very modern because the Cubans are very concerned about people not moving into the cities, into Havana and overpopulating Havana. So they trying to do everything possible to make, to make the small towns attractive and to make the farms attractive. And so they've got as much collectivization as they can get with people making contributions, you know, people choosing to now what happens to the people who don't choose to? When you were driving along they point to farmers and they say, see that person didn't want to join the collective. And I'd say, does he have electricity? And they see the wire. So we'd drive over and we'd see the wires going to this house for electricity. But they do have a lot of difficulty and if they're balanced, the trade is hurt. If some of their crops don't come through, then it hurts in the kinds of foods that they have available. We went to this one seminary. Now, when we'd eat in our old town, the coffee was very good. And I drink a lot of the coffee, but we went to this one seminary and there they serve this coffee, all of us. And there were about 15 or 16 of us and reached out about this much coffee in our cup. Essentially, we used up the ration for coffee. Okay then they gave us as much as they possibly could, which was not pretty much. Milk is available. If you're under 15, milk is available. Very inexpensively. If you are under 15 or over 65, if `you are between 15 and 65, you have to pay a lot more for milk and you have to wait until the end of the day to buy it. And that's partly because they have shortage of, well, some of the dairy products, which they get from their large dairy ranches, they use for exporting trying to raise money. But it's like as far as I can tell. So it's rather precarious situation. Supposedly they have trouble with water but the whole time we were there, we never had any water cut off or never you know, we just always had water whenever we wanted to. And the water was, you could just drink it from the tap. At least we did. That seems to be a system which was leftover from before the revolution, the water plants treatment that the Americans installed and the Cubans growing, went to baseball games, went to the Cuban world series that was exciting. Just a very interesting some other questions. Yes. Now you can't grow as a tourist from the United States. The American government has four classifications for going to Cuba. One is that you be invited by the Cubans and they pay all your land expenses. Second one is if you have Cuban, if you have relatives in Cuba, you can go visit. Third one is, if you're doing research and you are not an undergraduate student doing research and you can show legitimate research interest, then you can go. And the fourth one is you can go as a news gatherer. Okay So we went. I could go as someone doing research, but we also went as news gatherers. And so the Des Moines register provided letters for us asking us that while we're in Cuba would we please gather any information and submit it to them for possible publication. And so that's what we did, but that's a requirement of the American government. It's really funny when we flew there. One guy said no when we flew to Havana, he said, I got to make sure I had my letter ready so I get into Cuba. And I said, what letter? And he said, the one that I'm gathering news and I said, no, it's American government that makes you get it. It's not the Cuban government. Okay and that's a sort of an odd feeling that the American government wants to keep you up. But those are the only four classifications. No, that was very nice and the register to do that for us. Okay. You know, you could even get it from the, from the school newspaper. I would imagine. Best way to go is to write, if you're interested in going is to write to Marazul Travel Agency in New York. M-A-R-A-Z-U- L I think it is, they're the ones who handle most of the trips to Cuba and they also take groups which are going and sometimes you can hook up with a group. I might go again in January, but I'd sort of like to go in February because there's a jazz group that's going in February and I'd like to hook up with them. That'd be interesting. But that's the best way to find out about it. It's more than just that though you have to sign just because you were invited only if the Cubans pay your land expenses Do not have to ask one of the other classifications. That's my understanding because I was thinking of taking just the group of undergraduate students the whole class and I was told I couldn't do it by Marazul instead I could do it with just a bunch of undergraduate students. No, and that's a change from when you were there in 79 and 80?\r\n\r\n- Yeah\r\n\r\n- And the policies were much looser then for we, but the American government has tightened up rather substantially since then and made it much more difficult, you can bring less back from Cuba than you could earlier. Such a way that makes a nice travel in Cuba is you don't have to spend a lot of time buying gifts for relatives 'cause you can bring hardly anything back anyway, 'cause restrictions of the American government Okay, there's some other questions? Thank you. Yeah one of the things which now, if you go to Cuba, one of the places that you have to make a visit is the prison and I've talked to four or five different people, who have been to Cuba recently and different groups and they all tell me about the prison and it always turns out to be the same women's prison. It's the model prison. Now, being coined to think that prison life in Cuba is pretty bad and for certain people, prison life in Cuba, for example, is very bad for those people, who refused to go along the prison routine You know, some of the cases that you hear about the worst, situation for prisoners are those who consider themselves to be political prisoners, right from the time of revolution or shortly after and they considered themselves to be political prisoners as political prisoners, they would not put on prison uniforms. Okay now I think when put on prison uniform, there is some kind of repercussions right down the line. If you don't put on prison uniform, you can't leave your cell. You can't leave your cell. You're essentially in isolation, you're essentially in isolation, you are not going to get best food. Do you see what I mean? It just goes on and on and on. So some of those people suffer pretty badly probably almost as badly as many people suffer in American prisons. Now, I don't know if there's more homosexual rape in Cuban prisons than in the United States prisons I don't know. Are conditions there any worse? The one case that I know which is this Cuban that I know in Des Moines, who has relatives in Cuba, His brother was in prison when I was in Cuba his brother was in prison because according to the stories I heard both from this guy and from from his relatives in Cuba, he was asked somebody came up to him and asked him if he would print what were called anti-revolutionary material. Okay. Cause he was a printer. And he said, no, he wouldn't, but he's arrested about six months later. And he was arrested because it had been reported that somebody had asked him to do that and that he had not reported those people to the government. So he got an eight year prison sentence for not reporting that he had been asked to print ad anti-revolutionary or anti-government material. So you named your prison sentence. Most of the time, the first three years he had to remain in the prison. After that, most of the time he was out on a work furlough program where he would work in the prison or he would work during the day, go back to the prison at night, sometimes have weekends off. And that seemed to be what a lot of prisoners go through. And that was told to me by his brother, that he was on this kind of work furlough which he was really pleased to be on. And right after he got out of prison, he was allowed to go to Spain, he is in Spain now. So that's, you know, that's when I experienced I one paper I wrote, I argued that I would rather identify who among the worst off in the United state, I would rather be, well, I would rather be one of the worst off in Cuba than one of the worst off in the United States. I'm well off in the United and so I'd rather, I guess I'd rather be well off for my own personal purposes. And I was probably having wealth goals. If you are well off in the United States, you're better off than if you're among the 20% best off in the United States, you're better off in the top 20% Cuba. But if you are among the worst off in the United States, you would be better off being among the worst off in Cuba. Because even in Cuba, if you were among the worst off, you still get medical care and education and some level of food and clothing and shelter. Whereas the worst off in the United States are not in that position. Now, would I rather be in prison in Cuba or in the United States? I don't know. I wouldn't want to be in prison in either one. Okay then among the top 10% filling the bottom 10%, I think I'd rather be in Cuba and certainly a South Africa, black South African who fell asleep in South Africa and woke up in Cuba. Will think he died and went to heaven. Okay Cuba is so, you know, is so much better off so much better opportunity than, to be a black South African. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I want to\r\n\r\n- Right. I originally had seven students all lined up we paid the initial deposit to go to Cuba with me. I ended up with two, both of them, females, incidentally, and the ones who backed out were four men and one female. The men essentially backed up because they came up with various excuses, but they're all afraid. Okay, they really were afraid that it would, that it would do marks against them. And the two students who went were both Republicans who were, you know, showed up in Cuba with their Gucci purses. And, but who were very strong minded women. And you know, if he said, well, this might be held against you. One of them, his grandfather was a CIA agent who was a college professor, but used his cover as a college professor in order to among other things, investigate Cuba as a CIA agent and purse was the only luggage which was searched when we went into Cuba. Now we don't know if it was coincidence or if the Cuban intelligence is really very cool, but I don't know, I don't think I don't know of anything that's happened to me because of that I still don't know.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Ooh, one more question. Okay that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40473/file/112097#t=0.0,2167.32735"}]}]}]}