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And if you'd like, there's lot of room up front. if you feel more comfortable moving up a little bit. It's gonna be a little bit more helpful for the speakers. But if you don't want to, it's all right.\r\n\r\n- We're a very mellow group.\r\n\r\n- And right now I'll turn it over to Barbara Mack who will be our moderator this afternoon.\r\n\r\n- Good afternoon. The first and most important question is can everyone see all right? Because if we don't have to jump up and down like so many marionettes on a string, I think that that would be advantageous and we'll have more time for discussion. A couple of housekeeping notes. I would remind you and there are flyers on the outside that this afternoon, if you want to spend the entire day at the Memorial Union, Governor Thomas Vilsack will be here from 3:30 to five. The purpose of his visit here today is to have an open town meeting with students. The session is primarily aimed at students, hearing student concerns, discussing the budget for higher education. Any concerns you have about the University. This is your opportunity to meet directly with the governor. So we would encourage it. Certainly open to the public and we particularly encouraged students to attend. Second, you may notice someone is missing here today which would be someone speaking from the Mid Iowa Boy Scout Council of America. I would like to state and I will probably state this for the record at the end in case we have people coming in in the middle of the presentation, repeated attempts were made by the Committee on Lectures to find someone who could act as an official spokesman for the Mid Iowa Boy Scout Council of America and also for the United Way, the agency which provides significant funding to the Boy Scouts. Both agencies declined opportunities to be here today. So I told Pat Miller, in their absence I main sprout horns and be devil's advocate if I possibly can, as well as moderator here today. So we have some attempt to discuss what the viewpoint should be. I'm happy to introduce our panel members. On my immediate left is Jeremy Hayes. Jeremy is an Eagle Scout. Pat said it's like being Catholic. Once you are you never quit. Once an Eagle Scout, always an Eagle Scout and currently as President of the LGBTA here on campus. On my far left is Ben Stone who is the Executive Director of the Iowa Civil Liberties Union. The local organization, the Iowa organization connected with the American Civil Liberties Union. And we'll try and leave some time for discussion as we go through our work here today. I think at the beginning, I forewarned Ben that I would call on him first and ask him just to do a little explanation about the decision, the U.S. Supreme Court decision in this case, why it was pursued in the first place And if he can give us his perspective of the argument's pro and con.\r\n\r\n- All right, Barbara. Basically what this case is about is that a gentleman named Dale had been a Boy Scout for many years. He turned 18, he'd become an Eagle Scout and he was interested in being a Scout leader and so, or Scout master. Whatever the phrase is. And he was doing that as a 19 year old. He went to college, continued to do so and while at Rutgers University, he appeared in an article in which he had identified himself as gay man. He is openly gay and he was a member of the Gay Advocacy Organization on campus at Rutgers. This article came to the attention of some leadership in the Boy Scouts of America. He received a letter explaining that he was being expelled as a Scout leader. There was no explanation and he inquired further. They ultimately did tell him that it was because he was openly gay. This was about 1991 and the case has been going throughout the 1990s. The reason that he filed suit was because New Jersey has a law that forbids discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sexual orientation and the New Jersey Supreme Court interpreted the state statute anti-discrimination statute as covering the Boy Scouts and that it did indeed represent a violation of the state anti-discrimination law. The case was appealed to the U. S. Supreme Court, which granted certiorari and ruled this last June. The real fighting issue in the case is the collision of the concepts of anti-discrimination with the concept of the First Amendment. The Boy Scouts asserted that the anti-discrimination law of New Jersey have the effect of substantially interfering with their ability under the First Amendment to freely associate with people in a way that would express their viewpoints. Basically the Boy Scouts were saying that, you know, we are an organization that promotes values to young men and that is our purpose and in furthering that purpose we need to be able to associate with other people, with other men and boys who helped further that expressive intent. And so that was their position. That by having the state require them to include gay Scout Masters in their ranks, that that was interfering with their ability to express themselves as an organization. The way the case played out, the court examined rather briefly and the dissent takes quite a big issue with this, basically, the two terms that were used by the Boy Scouts to argue that they do have a message that is, promotes the idea that homosexuals are not acceptable. There are two phrases. One is clean and the other is morally straight. Now there's a lot of literature in the Boy Scouts and materials that are available to the public that describe what these words mean. And nowhere in any literature that any Boy Scout would read or any Scout leader would read does it say anything about how those terms have anything to do with homosexuality. The entirety of the argument brought by the Boy Scouts of America was that the leadership in the Executive Committee of the Boy Scouts interpreted those words to exclude homosexuals from Scout Masters and also from membership and their argument was that this is what we think those words mean. The language in all the literature said nothing about that. And the court, the majority written by Justice Rendquist said, \"we're going to defer \"to what the Boy Scouts say they're expressive words are.\" The dissent said, \"you know, look, \"we need to look at what their messaging really is. \"What are they conveying to the public? \"What is their expression?\" And it says in the literature very clearly that the Scout Masters are not supposed to talk about sexual matters. That's for parents. It's for churches. It's for counselors. It's for sex education teachers. It's not for Scout Masters. They go out of their way to say, \"we do not want Boy Scouts \"to be dealing with sexual issues.\" They don't even want to deal with religious issues. They state that they're instructing stay out of that. And the majority just decided to accept in the brief, the Boy Scouts had said this is what we think these words mean even though we've never conveyed that to the membership of the Boy Scouts. Join the Boy Scouts, you don't hear anything about how we don't like homosexuals. We don't think homosexuals are acceptable. There's nothing about that. The majority simply said if the Boy Scouts litigating this case say that their expressive intent is to be excluding homosexuals, the reason to take them at their word with no further analysis, which is one of the great weaknesses of the case. The position the ACLU took as an Amicus on this case we filed on behalf of Mr. Dale's position was that the Boy Scouts are an organization that first of all, they are not advocating hetero sexism. They're not anti-homosexual. It's just the leaders calling the shots and litigation that are doing that. Another argument is that, you know, there are cases where organizations in the past have tried to use the First Amendment to justify exclusive policies. The most well-known cases are two from the 1980s. One involved the Rotary Club and the other involved the JCs. These were basically civic organizations that used to be exclusively all male and they made the position, yes--\r\n\r\n- Would you elaborate as to what the First Amendment says...\r\n\r\n- Sure, the part of the First Amendment that is relevant to the Dale case is basically freedom of association. Freedom of association means that you, for instance, if you were running a Nazi group and the government came along and said, \"anti-discrimination policy means you \"must allow blacks, Hispanics\" or, maybe it was a clan group. I mean, if you're a racist group and the government comes along and says, \"you have to admit people of other races,\" that conflicts with their ability to express their message, which is white supremacy. And so that's where the freedom of association, when you associate with other people you're conveying a message. And so that's where the First Amendment comes into play on this. The Rotary Club and the JC has attempted to say that, you know, we do engage in expressive activities. We do get involved in political affairs. We promote various political ideas and if we are forced to admit women into our ranks, that'll interfere with that. Well, in both those cases, the Supreme Court of the United States rejected that argument saying, \"the JCs are not a,\" you know, \"pro man group.\" It's not a group that exclusively promotes that males are superior and that only males should be involved in civic affairs. Therefore making them admit women is not going to interfere with any message they give out 'cause their message is not anti-women. It is other things that are unrelated to that. And so it was not going to substantially interfere with their ability to express their positions as an organization. Now, if you compare that with the Boy Scouts, you know, why do they exist? What do they express? What are their views? And again, the court just said, if the leadership of the Boy Scouts want to say that these words, morally, straight and clean have something of homosexuality, we'll just take them at their word. The dissent took great issue issue with that. And so that's really how the case has come out. It was a five to four ruling. The majority found that it was substantially interfering that, you know, they took them at their word, that their expressive ideas were that homosexuals are not acceptable and said if that's the case, then the anti-discrimination law clearly interferes with the ability to make that expression and therefore it is an undue burden on their First Amendment free association rights. The dissent of four justices led by Justice Stevens disagreed with that and made some very good arguments on the dissenting side. So there's much more to it, but we only have an hour, so...\r\n\r\n- But we'll get there, we'll get there. Jeremy, if you would, tell us a little bit about your interaction with scouting, your perception of the values in scouting in light of what Ben has said, what scouting has meant to you and how you perceive scouting now.\r\n\r\n- I've been involved in scouting since I was about eight years old. I was involved as a youth and I'm still currently registered as an Assistant Scout Master back in my troop back home in South Carolina. I may not be after today, but right now I am. Sorry.\r\n\r\n- There you go. The scouting organization has been very influential in my life. It teaches a lot of values that I think are very important. And part of those values that it teaches is kind of a, it seems to me, that the values that it teachers aren't discriminatory and to have this discriminatory policy come up all of a sudden just kind of seems like a contradiction in my mind. I guess.\r\n\r\n- Could you have found yourself, could you have found reception as an openly gay Scout as opposed to Scout Master?\r\n\r\n- I don't think so. During the time that I was a Youth member, I was trying to come to terms with my own sexuality and I didn't find any kind of support within the organization that would allow me to have felt comfortable being open about my sexuality at that time. And also the fact that there weren't any adult leaders that were openly gay made it difficult for me to find positive role models of openly gay people and I know that that would have been helpful for me if I had had someone to look up to who was openly gay and was a positive role model. Especially if it had been inside the organization.\r\n\r\n- Were a lot of your friends scouting friends, was a lot of your social life wrapped up in scouting?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I spent a lot of time in scouting. My parents were heavily involved and so all of their friends were Scout leaders and all of my friends were Boy Scouts and I was very deeply involved in the organization.\r\n\r\n- So had you not been able to participate in scouting you would have felt ostracized in your community, something of a black sheep?\r\n\r\n- Oh, definitely. If I had been openly gay and then had been subsequently removed from the organization, I would have basically had no one to socialize with.\r\n\r\n- I think that brings us to something that I wanted to talk about, which is the concept of a public accommodation. And Ben, as you noted, the Rotary cases and the JC cases both involved a finding of a public accommodation sufficient to support a finding that non-discrimination statutes should apply. Certainly in this country, we have lots of organizations that people can belong to that clearly do discriminate. There is a golf club in Des Moines that has men's tee times. They asked me to join and I told them to take a long leap. There are, if you look at the, the National Women's Christians, Young Women's Christian Association, YWCA, board guidelines, they do not allow men to sit as board members. There are organizations which have deeply embedded discrimination policies, whether it's joining the Junior League. We haven't yet had a lawsuit where a man wanted to join Junior League, I'm shocked. So where do you draw the line between what something that is a public accommodation and should be subjected to non-discrimination laws and something that truly is purely private? How do you see it as somebody who's had years of experience in the area?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that it comes down to kind of what is the nature of the exclusive organization. There was a very well-known case that was litigated by a good friend of mine named Sally Frank down at Jake Law School and she was a student, undergraduate and a graduate student and a law student. The Princeton Club was a male only Alumni Association Club at Princeton and being a member of that club was extremely prestigious. It was extremely useful. You connected with people in the community, you got access to channels of communication that could enhance your life and your career. And that has really, what it came down to, if the organization is one where being a member could be very advantageous to the excluded group, and in this case it was women, by keeping women out of the Princeton, Tiger Club, I think it was called, it really shut off an avenue of opportunity to succeed in life from women. And that case ultimately ruled that the Princeton club is now got both men and women as an organization, as members. In this context, I think, well, there's another case that I had mentioned, which is the Hurley case which involves a parade in Massachusetts. There's an Irish Pride parade put on by a private group and a gay organization of Irish Americans wanted to march and the people running the parade did not want them in the parade, did not like homosexuals identifying with the banner and the Supreme Court ruled in that case that it was a private parade and that if the government came along and forced the people running the parade to allow people to march behind a banner identifying themselves as gay Irish Americans, that that would force the parade organizers to basically endorse a message that they shouldn't be required to do under the First Amendment. In that case, you have, you know, the access to the parade wasn't of a nature that it would further your career, But I think in that case you have a specific event that is clearly expressive and parades are all expression. And that when people see a parade and they see a group in that parade, when someone sees VEISHEA and they see a group marching in VEISHEA, they are assuming that the VEISHEA Committee approved that unit marching in that parade and therefore they found their message acceptable to the general tenor of the parade. So it was not founded in public accommodation. Public accommodation law is tricky because you can't just say that if it's open to the public period, then it's always gonna be public accommodation. It does have a lot of subtle issues in it that are really hard to pin down and one reason why this case law is kind of hard to understand.\r\n\r\n- I think, for, yes.\r\n\r\n- Just to add a little bit more perspective, I was a graduate student at Princeton when Sally Franks filed that suit. She was an undergraduate at the time. The club that she was talking about was one of the of the group or whatever, called Eating Clubs of Princeton, who they are part of the functional equivalents of attorneys that they use specifically to provide dining hall services on contract to their members. I believe it was specifically because they provided that type of public accomodation that the New Jersey law was applicable. My recollection is is you can get by on your state laws.\r\n\r\n- Mmh hmm.\r\n\r\n- I think the men's only tee times, and there are golf clubs that are exclusive. That was a part of the election stuff back in '92. That Clinton was a member of a of a golf--\r\n\r\n- Whites only golf club.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, whites only golf club. And anybody that would challenge that under a public accommodations law would have to make the case that by denying blacks the opportunity to get in there that that was going to have an effect on their ability to participate in our democracy. And I can't tell you what case law is on that, but I don't know if they still exist. I mean, say years later, I don't know if they're still around, but you know, groups, organizations can be discriminatory in certain context. It just depends.\r\n\r\n- So, now I get to play devil's advocate. So in order for, I'll play Rehnquist and you get to play Stevens and this'll go down in history. William Rehnquist is not the guidance picture I have up over make bed and kiss before I go to bed at night. Doesn't it make sense? Why, why should the government be in position of overseeing, looking at a, and essentially a private organization, an organization which does not accept government funding, an organization which does not eat at the tax payer trough and allow them to say our perception of reality is this?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that if indeed an organization does have that as a part of its essential message that it conveys to the public, I mean, there'll be great problems with the government coming along and telling a women's only club that was, or a feminist organization that did not allow men to be members that they had to admit men because then it would undercut their ability to be their advocates, to do their advocacy. We would have great trouble with the government coming along and telling the clan that they must admit blacks because it would interfere with their ability to organize to propose their beliefs to the public. I think that the Dale case is an example of and I think this is where the case comes down to. When the court has got a horrendous history of, in my view, of dealing with gay issues. I mean, Bowers versus Hardwick will go down as one of the worst opinions the Supreme Court has ever rendered right up there with Plessy versus Ferguson. This is the 1986 case where there was a challenge to the Georgia's sodomy law that found that it was basically only enforced against gay men and women that basically said if you engage in sodomy, you're violating state law. It's a crime. And in a very close case, the Supreme court ruled five to four that that was constitutional, even though it's private conduct, you know, consenting adults and all this, and then the court just has a blind, it's got blinders on. They can't, I think what the court did here was they, the five members of the majority just wanted to find a way to allow the Boy Scouts to maintain hetero sexism. That if they somehow said that the Boy Scouts can't exclude homosexuals, it'll disappear as an organization because nobody'll join. They're gonna be afraid of all these gay people coming in and corrupting children and becoming pedophiles and things like this. I mean, it's an irrational fear. The evidence is clear that homosexuals are no more likely to be pedophiles than anybody else is. It's a very complex issue. And I think the court just, the reason they deferred to the Boy Scouts on what they thought their expression was, even though they never expressed it publicly, I mean, nobody in this country knew that the Boy Scouts were a homophobic organization until this litigation got public notice. And the court just said, \"well, we're going to defer to them on that and that'll allow us to let them win.\" And I think it's unfortunate that the court, I'm it's a reflection of our society. It just has a very difficult time coming to grips with some of the more difficult social issues in our country and I think that, to get back to your question, Bob, I think that if an organization truly does have an exclusive membership policy because it's essential to their message, it should be protected and it probably always will be.\r\n\r\n- So it's essential to the message of good golf that we have men's tee times.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that that's, that's an issue that I think is, let me see. I haven't really thought too much about golf clubs. I think that frankly, I mean, having access to golf tees with other men or with men if you're woman can be very advantageous.\r\n\r\n- Mmh hmm.\r\n\r\n- And I think if that's litigated properly that it should prevail that an exclusive golf organization wouldn't be allowed to prevail on the First Amendment. I don't know the case law on that but--\r\n\r\n- It would be a fun case law to try to make.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I, a woman with whom I practice law, Diane Staley, whom you know, was getting ready to tee off at the Wakanda with a group of men one day when a munchkin greens keeper came running out and said, \"stop, stop, put down your clubs! \"You're a woman.\" She said, \"I know.\" He said, \"well, this is a men's only tee time.\" She said, \"you go find somebody big enough to stop me \"and I may not tee off, \"but in the meantime leave or wear my golf club.\" And he actually left and she teed off and since she, I think, has a single digit handicap, she was allowed to play. Jeremy, what do you see the impact of this decision on Scouts and on scouting? Do you, have you talked to any of your scouting friends? Do you think that that the decision will make scouting less friendly to young men as well as to leaders?\r\n\r\n- I don't know that it could be less friendly. It hasn't been friendly to begin with, but I think that by making the policy more known, it makes people even more uncomfortable. People that were in the same position I was might not even try to be involved with the organization anymore because of the fear of being kicked out of the organization if someone finds out. Like right now, I don't talk to any of my friends that are still involved back home because I don't want to get kicked out of the organization. I don't want someone to write a letter to the council saying, \"hey, you know, Jeremy is gay,\" and then I get a letter in the mail saying that I've been removed from the organization.\r\n\r\n- Do you actively participate in scouting activities when you're home for the summer or?\r\n\r\n- I did last year. I haven't been home recently but when I was home this past year, I was actually in charge of putting together one of the largest events in our area at that time. So, and I was, I was out here, but I wasn't, nobody knew back there.\r\n\r\n- Fascinating. It does lead to, it seems to lead to a kind of double, double life, if you will.\r\n\r\n- Definitely.\r\n\r\n- How did they explain the concept of morally straight to you growing up? You were an Eagle Scout. When you were told as a Scout you had to be morally straight, what did you think that meant? How was that evidenced to you?\r\n\r\n- It isn't really explained to me. In the Scout Handbook it says, it has a little description of what morally straight is and it just says, \"be good.\" You know, that's basically the gist of it. It doesn't really say, you know, what is good and what isn't. It kind of leaves that open.\r\n\r\n- We had a question from the audience that I think I overrode her comment.\r\n\r\n- Yes. United States Army and American Engineers. Also I was a Boy Scout and a Cub Scout. And I have nieces who are Girls Scouts and Brownies. I know from my Cub Scout experience with my Cub Mother, one of the things we have in our manual is the codes that we have to go by. We have to learn the salute and everything that's in there and one of the codes we have is honor, honesty, morality and patriotism. In all four of those there, it comes to show back then was that gays in that capacity of a Cub Master or Cub Mom could not uphold any other the decorum in that respect. Because underneath the Constitution of the United States, I've been an advocate of the Constitution of the United States. You know, in Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, that was part of our teachings that we had the right... and this is where we'd go over the Constitution of the United States of America and also being black I had been affiliated with one thing my parents always said. This is what gave us our civil rights. The Constitution of the United States of America and this is where that to show that the areas of morality is something that tells you in clear interpretation of not only religious morality, but that of moral morality in professionship to that. So, I was just wondering how could any person be conceivable to teach honesty, honor, morality, patriotism, where is that his, or say she's a lesbian in the Girl Scouts, be able to prepare to that projection to these children or these young people at that time. I find it hard to believe that freedom of association and that one of your pinned idols that you were placing in that analogy to discrimination against gays in the areas called, of black, being denied that use of a bathroom or even say, access to drink water and everybody else is drinking water and it never gone, because that would be stereotyping that black people in general are homosexuals in that area when we're not. In that respect, in that regard of numbers or that of association. I know that a lot of them patronize for that of a women, the political viewpoints in the decision. I know Malcolm X in California in 1963, no, yeah, '64, I think it was '64, he was in San Diego and gay cops killed 70 of the men and all of them mutilated that 70. Being shot off as to the fact of the killing of them and then two in the areas of, where is that, the diseases associating with them that practice homosexuality and that of AIDS. And then to the deservance to that of deterioration as to morality even in religious sectors, that are more in religious sectors to that area. 'Cause I know that any conversation I've heard in relationship to yourself, you identify that of blackness and discrimination. Why, I'm sure you can set us back to the Native American Indians or whatever, I don't know if you can see the two patterns in that area. 'Cause underneath the Constitution of the United States, we would have never been allowed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 if it didn't interpret that of the area of the Constitution that says that we are created equal.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- And that of our endowments and this is where that shows in that areas you think that Mr. Hayes here\r\n\r\n- Hayes.\r\n\r\n- is equal to this young lady right here--\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- should that involve sexuality?\r\n\r\n- Okay, I think, I think you have the substance of the question which I think is an important one. As I'm seeing it, you asked the fundamental question of can you be gay and moral at the same time. Can you be gay and teaching morality?\r\n\r\n- Can you teach honesty?\r\n\r\n- Well, I, Jeremy, if you wanna chime in as well. I think that it's important to recognize that this case was, first of all, there was no allegation by the Boy Scouts or anyone else that Mr. Dale had done anything inappropriate, expressed in terms of what he had said to his troop, anything that he had done. That he had never engaged in promoting homosexuality or degrading heterosexual or anything like that. This was clearly just about, absent any conduct of any kind. Is it okay. So your question is a good one. I think that it's a question that the court basically came down by saying that it can't. I mean, in other words, because the Boy Scouts think, or were allowed to say that this is what they think, that being a homosexual and a gay man is incompatible with promoting morality. I mean, that is a decision that the court allowed them to bring and as an organization they have the right to make that argument and that the government shouldn't compel them to undercut that argument. I think that the weakness of the case is that that's not what the Scouts had been doing publicly. Regarding equality, I think that the question you asked, it really comes down to, you know, is homosexuality an innate characteristic? Is it something that comes from genetics primarily? Is it something that comes from the environment primarily? Can you choose to be gay or not? And that's a whole nother forum. I mean, we can't deal with that with any kind of clarity here, but basically if you come down on the side that homosexuality is a choice, then, but you got to realize that the anti-discrimination laws in this country protect people's religious preferences and you can choose to be a Muslim or Christian or whatever and you are protected from discrimination. And so in that sense, there is precedent for the government protecting people who have made a choice from discrimination. As for whether or not people who are gay can be moral and promote morality, I think they are as well qualified as anybody if the essence of morality is treating other people with compassion and justice and fairness. But if morality is defined as that homosexuality itself is immoral just on its face, then clearly if that's the position, then it's not consistent to argue that they can be. So it really comes down to a value judgment that each of us make.\r\n\r\n- Good, I'd like to, Jeremy had wanted to add in as well as respond.\r\n\r\n- Before I, I guess, knew that I was a homosexual, my parents taught me all the values that I still hold today and as a Scout leader and as a staff member at a Boy Scouts summer camp, I taught those same values to other Scouts. I taught merit badge classes. I taught, you know, I even taught adult leaders the Boy Scouts' youth protection policies which are about preventing child abuse. And I taught those before I knew I was gay. I taught those after I knew I was gay. There was no change in my values and no change in the message that I gave to the other Scouts.\r\n\r\n- I would say, yes.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I guess my personal feeling is that there are troops that have all kinds of views and some of 'em, some of 'em may be sympathic to it. Then again, there are other groups that have all kinds of people with ignorant views. I think they all have the right to their own views. What you have are younger is that when it comes to Boy Scouts as well as other various other organizations, they are involved in commerce of providing meals and accommodations when they run things like Scout summer camps and they employ people in paid employment. When they're getting into basically the hotel and restaurant business, however low level that might be, they're operating in the sphere of public commerce and we've clearly established in this country that the government does have the right to regulate terms under which the Congress has undertaken to eliminate racial and religious and gender discrimination as well as sexual preference.\r\n\r\n- Someone asked me before we started and before it slips my mind, I wanted to take a couple of seconds to talk about the Girl Scouts of America. And I don't hold any special expertise, except I was a First Class Girl Scout, which is, I don't think you have to jump through nearly as many hoops as you do in order to be an Eagle Scout. Although I distinctly remember digging that latrine and I resent it to this day. But I was a First Class Girl Scout, a Scout leader and a board member of the Moingona Girl Scout Council which operates Camp Sacajawea. And if you can say Moingona and Sacajawea in the same sentence and pronounce them both correctly you get a medal from someone. The Girl Scouts have a policy which is very different from the Boy Scouts in that the girl Scouts, when they do checks on their leaders to make sure that leaders or potential leaders do not have criminal records, to make sure that those leaders or potential leaders are willing to and knowledgeable about undertaking the task of teaching the Girl Scout policies and procedures, you go through an orientation, a series of orientation seminars which lasts for about, well it tends to be 10 sessions which can be accomplished over anywhere from one to three months. And there at no time do the Girl Scouts feel a need other than asking about a criminal record, feel the need to ask you about your sexual preference nor is any Scout asked about her sexual preference. And when asked about this, the Girl Scouts are actually pretty sensitive on this from a public relations standpoint because they don't particularly want to be perceived of as attacking the Boy Scouts. You know, their their message has been, we have other fish to fry. We are about young women. We are not about telling the Boy Scouts they're bad. We're about following our own agenda. But their policies, I think, are ones which are interesting because it concentrates on behavior and action, rather than identification. It doesn't ask are you a lesbian? It asks what's your arrest record and whether that arrest record has to do with fraud or passing bad checks or driving while intoxicated or lascivious acts with children. You're going to find out about that. So it is conduct rather than orientation. It is behavior rather than identification that becomes the issue when identifying potential leaders.\r\n\r\n- How would you respond? And you know yourself they don't have it on the application that you hand in or to of the places you apply for. It's for Cub Scouts, Boy Scout Master. I was wondering, how would you respond in relationship to asking? Coming from South Carolina. I was born there. I was wondering, how would you say, coming from South Carolina and then intention to asking a question by a, 'cause you might now that it is in South Carolina, you would have some black African American youth in your Boy Scout units in that area. What would you say when they speak to you as to say first, how would you feel if I were to be gay a South Carolina Caucasian white girl or a South Carolina Native American Indian. Ojibwa, Cherokee or Creek, Cherokee, in relationship to your views in areas of honesty and morality in religion in that respect and then say, what would you say to them when they say, what would you do if we want to, say, follow in your steps and become homosexual? You'd say, I want to put a stop to this right now. You do not want to be a homosexual. Or would you say in contention to that there,\r\n\r\n- That's a good question. What would the scouting manuals tell you? You've obviously studied the Scouting Manuals. How would they advise you to respond to those questions?\r\n\r\n- The policy would be, and what I would do, would be that that's not appropriate for a Scout leader to discuss with the Scout at any point. That's something they need to talk to their parents or their church or whatever. But the official policy and what I would do, I would just say, \"that's not for me to discuss with you. \"It's not my decision to make for you.\" Not, I don't--\r\n\r\n- Okay. A student in school that's a Cub Scout in Boy Scouts and that person is outcast by their peers and you're expected to walk over to them and say something to them as to show them leadership. The other peer group, those boys, in the school or girls in the school, as you being a Girl Scout in that area, that's where the, you know that from Mrs. Young, who was my Cub Scout Master and Mrs. Fisher was also my Cub Scout Master and Mrs. Showatski who was my Boy Scout Master in that area. So they do have to deal with those type of issues based on the fact that when I was in Cub Scouts in '63 up until '71 which I ended my Boy Scout reign, that these are things that were social issues that involved conversations that your Cub Scout Masters sit and lecture you about along with the fact you have to build a bird house and you have to know how to go running through a trail and find all the trail markings and things that you do at the Jamboree and also when you come trail blazing, you have to set trail markings. That's some of the group's discussions that you have around the camp fire in that area.\r\n\r\n- I don't want to cut off your question, but we do have a couple of other questions and we're running short and we're running short on time. Response?\r\n\r\n- It's the same thing. The policy is that you don't discuss that with the youth. I know professional scouters who have been fired for discussing things like that.\r\n\r\n- Do you have a question?\r\n\r\n- It says right in the manual, it says, the Boy Scout Handbook says that your parents, you're supposed to say your parents or guardian or sex education teacher should give you the facts about sex that you must know. That's what you're told to say. You're supposed to not answer that. So that's what it says and...\r\n\r\n- Socially interacting is something that the morality that you as a father, as a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout need--\r\n\r\n- Well, I think we're going to have to appear to disagree on this ''cause with only three minutes left, I do want to get to our other questioners so we can give people an opportunity to speak. You had a question, sir?\r\n\r\n- I have a question for Jeremy. If a Scout were to come to you and say, \"I'm dealing with an issue,\"\r\n\r\n- Okay, the question is if a scout were to say, \"I'm dealing with an issue,\"\r\n\r\n- And would come to you and you would say, \"it's not my place to talk to you about this,\" and then they say that they're in a situation where it would be inappropriate for them to speak with their parents. Either their parents or their guardians, and they say they're either uncomfortable with that, it's not appropriate. Perhaps they don't have the right moral kind of parents that children should have and they don't have sex education and they say, \"I look to you as a respected individual \"who can teach me morality,\" how would you respond to that?\r\n\r\n- So the question, for those who are having some difficulty hearing, the question is if a Scout comes to you and says, asks about a moral choice and you say, \"go talk to your parents,\" follow the scouting handbook and he says, \"I can't talk to my parents, \"I don't feel comfortable talking to my church. \"You're someone I respect. \"You're someone who I look to for moral leadership.\" How do you respond then?\r\n\r\n- I still, in that position, I don't feel that I can talk to that person about those kinds of issues because I would just have to find someone else that they would have to, I would talk to them about finding someone else that they would feel comfortable speaking to, because I don't feel that in my position I would be able to do that.\r\n\r\n- So you'd take it upon yourself to maybe help them find somebody with whom they can speak about it.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I would talk them and try to get them to try to think about other people that might be resources for them.\r\n\r\n- We had a question in the back, I believe, although that person may have left.\r\n\r\n- Barbara, I wanted to bring up, kind of looking to the future. 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changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=642.298,644.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I suppose, the same thing will happen here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=644.56,648.091"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e And on that, on that 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late,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=665.85,667.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we did indeed ask both the Boy Scouts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=667.77,669.367"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the United Way to be here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=669.367,670.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"both declined to be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=670.94,673.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next to the last, Tom Vilsack will be 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can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=677.68,679.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally, just remember,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=679.17,680.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the next president of the United 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conscience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=685.98,687.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vote next Tuesday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=687.78,689.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272/transcript/26780/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks a 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The other issue that's mainly important are two, a lot of the Scouts have favorable economic relationships with governments and churches and others. Government entities that give favorable treatment. For instance, the ACLU of San Diego, just has filed suit in August to stop the local government from giving sweetheart deals to the Boy Scouts that in effect subsidized their existence. Saying that, while the Boy Scouts are entitled to equal rights they're not entitled to special rights. Kind of, twisting that phrase on, on, back at them. But the other issue is equal access. And actually the ACLU has talked about this internally and we're, we're actually very concerned if a school district were to say, we're not gonna allow the Boy Scouts to use our facilities because they exclude homosexuals from gay scout, from Scoutmasters. That has been decided by the Supreme Court as being expressly protected by the First Amendment. And we would be very troubled at the notion that someone could be excluded from a government access to a facility on the basis of a constitutionally protected expression. So it's, it's really coming down to, at this point, there are private organizations, churches other groups that have subsidized the Boy Scouts for years that are, some of them are reconsidering that, some of them have quit subsidizing the Boy Scouts based upon this because you have no obligation to give funding or to give support to an organization that's discriminating but you do have to grant them equal access. If indeed it is a constitutionally protected right that you're trying to justify that exclusion on. So, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens in the next few years with the Boy Scouts, because at least locally, there has been no severing that I'm familiar with. Plymouth Church in the Des Moines has sponsored a troop for 50 years and they don't have any plans to change that. And the United Way has also not withheld funding from the the Boy Scouts. Which, of course, United Way is a private organization, that can do as they choose on that. But, it would be very interesting to see if there was a, kind of, chilling out of the Boy Scouts by government entities and private groups, in terms of supporting them, based upon this. And I think it is evidence of the unsure and rather shaky feeling that the Boys Scouts have in that they're not here. Even people within the Boy Scouts that don't like the policy refused to come. And the people within the Boy Scouts that wanted to uphold the policy, that the National Boy Scouts have put forth through Dale, they didn't want to come either. They're laying low, they're hidin' in their caves. They don't want to be seen, they don't want to talk about this, they're hoping that people just forget about it and they just keep on going. And the issue will see what society does.\r\n\r\n- What's interesting, although I have only anecdotal evidence to support this is that the girl, the Boy Scouts, excuse me, at least in some jurisdictions have started a, kind of, don't ask don't tell policy with leaders. Because they are, they're eager to get leaders. They want leaders that they believe to be valid leaders. And are not pursuing a policy of making inquiries. So, if you don't walk in and say, \"Hey, by the way, I'm gay.\" They're going, \"Hm, well. I'm sure you're just supportive of this activity.\"\r\n\r\n- Could you repeat it in the question so we can hear what he has, but I couldn't hear what question was. You know...points to the audience.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I'm, I'm sorry. I did this because I got a signal that it was not being helped. This gentleman I think was, was asking some very fundamental questions about, in essence, can you, can you teach honesty? Can you teach morality? Can you teach patriotism if you are gay? And, and if you are gay man, a gay scout leader, and a scout approaches you and says, \"I'm thinking about engaging in interracial dating\" or perhaps, \"I'm unsure about my sexual orientation.\" How could a scout leader respond to that? And that was Jeremy's response was, 'Well, the scouting policies would tell you, look, look elsewhere. That's not what scouting talks about. Go to your parents, go to your church, go to your counselor for leadership.' Is that a fair but brief summary of your question, sir?\r\n\r\n- In essence, what I was asking is, \"How would he respond to those youth?\"\r\n\r\n- How would you response to the youths that came to him asking for guidance?\r\n\r\n- That move on and give pastorship to Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts when you're out in the weeds, doing cookouts, and doing things that you do when you're sitting around the campfire, and discuss social events\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, when you're sitting around a campfire or talking at a social event, you're at a boy scout jamboree, you aren't always talking about making the line where the rabbit comes out of the hole and the tree goes back in or making your square knot or talking about trailblazing. Certainly, at some points in time, you're going to be talking about how to live life and when those issues arise, and I think Jeremy answered, and I'm, let me put words in your mouth, that you would follow what you were told, what you were taught as a scout leader.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- That's the thing that I'm -\r\n\r\n- Uh, question in the back?\r\n\r\n- Yes, uh, as a parent who has a child in the Boy Scouts, I think I have a responsibility to protect my child against, what I think, are behaviors of sin. And I include homosexual behavior as a sin, okay? Now that I have that responsibility, and part of that responsibility also goes along with selecting the leaders who participate in Boy Scout community. Now you mentioned, threw up your hands up and said, \"Well, I'm not asking anyone.\" Well, that's false. They are asking\r\n\r\n- They've started asking?\r\n\r\n- I know, I know, I know places where they aren't and I know places, and yeah. Who's asking?\r\n\r\n- Local control so some, obviously do that.\r\n\r\n- These here are under local control. You know, Mr Stone, you said, in approximately half of America there's this irrational fear in society that when we have homosexual scout leaders that they're gonna want us to show. I don't think that fear is totally irrational because the rest of the organization is all NAMBLA which, are you familiar with that?\r\n\r\n- I'm very familiar with what they're doing.\r\n\r\n- North American Men/Boy Love Association, right? And their goal is for men to have sex with children.\r\n\r\n- Their goal is to legalize lowering the consent age.\r\n\r\n- Same thing. Same thing. So these are homosexuals who want to have sex, adult homosexuals, who want to have sex with children.\r\n\r\n- I guess my response to that, sir, is that, there are heterosexuals that are serial killers, does that mean that all heterosexuals are, therefore, to be feared?\r\n\r\n- I'll tell you what, if a man engages in sex with a boy child, that makes him a homosexual.\r\n\r\n- No, it does. The literature, and the empirical evidence, is, totally objects that. It is a matter of power, it's a very a very complex issue, but believe me, sir. The evidence of scientists in this country, and around the world, have clearly stated, and have clearly found, that pedophiles and homosexuality is not the same thing. And it is simply not true. The evidence is not there. The reason that people continue to believe that homosexuality is about pedophiles is because of a lack of understanding of the complexity of the issue. I mean, that doesn't mean that you don't have a right to exercise your decision-making power as a parent. But to try and claim that because NAMBLA exists, the people in the gay rights community can't stand NAMBLA, they hate them, because here are these deviants who are attempting to, you know, promote the idea that young boys can consent to sex, really make them look bad. And they don't like it. They don't advocate that, they don't believe in that. And they keep getting tarred with that because people don't understand that it is not the same thing.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- I would appreciate the next time, for the moderator -- As a courtesy.\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry I interrupted you, sir.\r\n\r\n- In the, in the spirit of open decision decision-making and shared governance and free speech a lot of times we just get too enthusiastic here. Now, let me say, you were saying that you did feel the need to make decisions for your son. Does that include scouting?\r\n\r\n- Correct.\r\n\r\n- And, um, did you talk to each of the Scoutmasters or did you interview the Scoutmasters?\r\n\r\n- I was, yes. I was in the process of interviewing Scoutmasters when, uh, first joined the scouts, yes.\r\n\r\n- Would you recommend that as a goal for all parents?\r\n\r\n- To be involved?\r\n\r\n- Mm hm.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, to be involved.\r\n\r\n- I mean, I think, one of the things that has become fascinating, and again, from my perspective, would be Girl Scouts. It is interesting to me that one of things that has been very tough is to get a lot of parental involvement. As somebody who, who supports scout leadership and is a qualified scout leader. I'd be delighted to have parents like you. Who cared enough about their child to actually know the person, be introduced to the person, no matter what your decision-making power, you care enough about your kid to show up and actively make an inter-- make an inquiry of, to interview, to question, the person who's gonna be taking your, in my case, your daughter, on a weekend trip. I have been stunned. I've had girls in my troop as long as three years and I've never met their parents. Their parents never come to a parental activity. Their parents are always too busy, so. I salute you. Other questions before we bring this to a close? One more.\r\n\r\n- I just have a comment. Whatever the law says, our organizations and society evolve. And it seems to me, is legal, does not make it right. I'm sure that it's, if, uh, you know, a decent, well behaving and disdained, qualified scout leaders, who happen to be homosexual are denied, their role was probably minuscule. But believe it now because of the discussions we have now and arguments in the future, I think, we might, society will have to see this law come to pass. There are many examples in the past that legal loving relationships and legal exclusions were eventually found down under the force of public programs. and people have right to oppose something that is legal and to demand that the law be changed. And I suppose, the same thing will happen here.\r\n\r\n- And on that, on that note, I'm going to, first of all, close by thanking our panelists. We are grateful for your time and for your willingness to be here. And second, I would remind you, I would again state, just so, if we have any people who came in late, we did indeed ask both the Boy Scouts and the United Way to be here, both declined to be here. Next to the last, Tom Vilsack will be here in the Camp O'Neil room at 3:30. Please be here if you can. And finally, just remember, the next president of the United States is likely to make several Supreme Court appointments. Think about your conscience. Vote next Tuesday. Thanks a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42754/file/115272#t=0.0,697.944"}]}]}]}