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Unfortunately, this critter that has come to be, has two heads. So, we have to kind of switch back and forth between us. We do wanna talk a little bit about the process of writing, how we write and how writing seems to work. But if you don't mind, what we'd like to do first, or I suppose, even if you do mind, what we like to do first is read a bit of \"The Lilith Summer\" so that we have something concrete to talk about, something to spin from. I think the parts that we will read stand by themselves, but I guess maybe it might not be bad, to just say a word or two about the context of the book in which these parts come, from which these parts come. Basically, the story. Would you believe I wrote it and I have to look back to see what it's about? It's about a 12-year-old girl named Ellen, and a 77-year-old woman named Lilith, who are thrown together for a summer. Each is a paid companion for the other, although neither one of them knows that at first. There's a sort of a bribe involved in the paying, because Ellen wants more than anything in the world, a 10-speed bicycle, and this is her way to get it. Lilith could use some new screens, and this is her way to get it. The summer begins with frankly dislike on both their parts, and it begins with deception. It ends with mutual understanding and respect for each other. Part of Ellen's learning, the girls' learning, is through the people she meets, friends of Lilith's, a woman named Maybelle, and a woman named Grace, and Mr. Cummings who lives next door, who was, I think in his eighties, as I recall, who would in a second, marry Lilith if only she would have him, which of course she won't. And then there is Lord Jim, who sort of winds his feline way, in and out of the story, Sometimes purring and sometimes being very frightening.\r\n\r\n- This is from, you know, the first part of the book. And at this point, the 77-year-old Lilith, and the 12-year-old Ellen, are not as Lilith's saying, \"We are not seeing eye to eye.\" Now she has explained to the girl, that they should be able to see to eye, because she says, \"At 12, you're coming onstage, \"and at 77, I'm going off. \"I can't see why we can't see eye to eye.\" So, in this chapter, you will meet, as she said, the two friends and Lord Jim, the Siamese cat. It is called \"The Wednesdays.\" \"Wednesday afternoons at Lilith's, were reserved for three-handed bridge, with Maybelle and Grace. Sometimes Friday afternoons too, if the day were dull and overcast. 'Grace can't handle dark days,' Lilith explained. 'I'll go to the pool when they come.' 'Grace, doesn't always remember what day it is. 'Run up, will you, to her house 'and tell her it's Wednesday.' Sometimes I thought Lilith was hard of hearing, other times I wasn't sure. She had a habit of hearing what she wanted to hear, And this left me wondering if I'd really said what I'd said or just thought I'd said it. 'I'll ring up Maybelle.' 'Why can't you call Grace too?' 'Grace takes her phone off the hook after 11.' '11 in the morning?' '11 in the morning, now run along.' If Lilith was strange, Grace was weird. I never knew what to expect of Grace. One time she might fling open her front door so hard it banged against the iron doorstop, clasp me in her thin arms with, 'Oh, lovey, it's you, 'Lilith's little one,' and step backwards down the long hall, tugging me into the house. 'Precious one, little one, you need nourishment,' she would repeat over and over, as she swayed out toward the kitchen, her faded blue chiffon robes streaming out behind. She would return bursting through the swinging kitchen door with one lone ginger snap, always a ginger snap so dry I couldn't bite it. Grace, on those days, would talk a crazy jumble of words and half phrases. 'Oh, little sweetheart, you must eat. 'Eat to grow, to grow big, big.' Then her face would change and she'd look angry. 'But don't believe them, they lie, they always lie. 'You don't grow big, you grow old. 'You think you're growing big, 'but one day you wake up and you're not big at all. 'You're only old, old.' I never knew what to do or what to say. I'd sit on the edge of the hard sofa and suck on the dry ginger snap, until it grew mushy enough so I could chew it. Once, Grace flew to the grand piano in the front parlor, tore off the fringed scarf, and played and sang a funny song about sad, sad Sally, in our back alley. Lilith would never have approved of the words. But Grace was exciting. It was like a dream where everything changed so quickly, you couldn't remember the next morning what happened. Other times, Grace might open the door just a crack, the night chain still on, and stare out with glazed eyes, mumbling as if she had a bad cold. 'Who are you? 'What do you want?' Grace smelled funny too, like rotting apples mixed in with lavender perfume. 'Is Grace rich?' I asked Lilith one morning. Dad says, 'If you're rich enough 'you can act as crazy as you want to.' Lilith, stirring up a cake, missed a beat with a wooden spoon and peered across the kitchen. 'Grace is old money.' 'What's that mean?' 'Means she's always been rich.' 'Are you old money too?' 'No,' Lilith almost chuckled, 'Poor, but you can be rich in other ways, you know, 'besides bank accounts 'and 14-room brick mansions on Oak Drive.' 'Maybe,' but I was not convinced. 'Has Grace always been your friend?' 'I've known Grace since we were girls. 'We weren't really friends then. 'The years brought us together.' Lilith had forgotten the cake and was looking out the kitchen window. 'At 17, Grace picked her friends. 'At 77, she accepts them. 'You see, when we were young, 'Grace was everything I wanted to be. 'But I've had happiness in life that Grace has missed. 'Things do have a way of leveling out 'if you live long enough.' Lilith resumed her stirring. Maybelle was just as strange as Grace. Maybelle always appeared for the three-handed bridge in a hat, a big hat. Without a hat, she towered above Lilith, and dwarfed little Grace. But with a hat, she could hardly get in Lilith's front door, without stooping. My job on Wednesday afternoons, was to help Lilith serve the refreshments. 'It's good for you, teach you some social graces.' I didn't know what social graces were, but I thought it must have something to do with Grace and being rich, so I always watched Grace very carefully. 'Take the cups into the dining room now, 'and mind you don't drop them. 'Grace hand painted them, you know?' I knew, I heard the same words every Wednesday. Besides, I had been at Grace's often enough. Her dining room was wall-to-wall china, bluebirds, elected blue, perched on green branches; strawberries redder than real, caught in circles of gold; tulips, egg-yolk yellow; and grapes, intense purple. Wherever I looked were the painted china circles, dinner plates, dessert plates, bread and butter plates. And even under the molding, were painted cups hung on little brass holders, all around the dining room like a necklace. 'It's the one thing Grace learned in life, to paint china. 'It fits her somehow.' Lilith's voice drifted away. Only Maybelle and Lilith got coffee on bridge afternoons. 'Grace brings her own,' Lilith told me. I pour coffee for Maybelle who barked out a thank you, that sounded more like an order. And then for Lilith, who merely nodded. Grace filled her own china cup from a silver thermos. and her cup was empty long before either Maybelle or Lilith had finished theirs. That afternoon, I saw Grace make a fluttering movement to reach her thermos beside Lilith. Perched on the footstool, I watched Lilith's hand moving under the table across her own broad lap, to touch Grace's knee and pat it gently. Grace's hand flew back to reassemble her cards and the game went on. 'You reneged, Grace!' Maybelle's bellow interrupted the silence of the game. 'You had a Trump all along. 'I played Trump three tricks back.' I didn't understand, but I knew Grace had done something wrong. Lilith, collecting the deck for the next deal, brushed Grace's arm accidentally, it looked, drawing her attention from Maybelle. 'She didn't mean to Maybelle, did you, Grace?' 'The spade was behind my heart. 'I didn't notice.' 'You couldn't see a spade if it had a handle, 'and was stuck in your hand! 'Why don't you pay attention to the game?' Lilith motioned toward the buffet with a tiny nod. I knew I was to pass the brownies. Chocolate-frosted brownies, arranged like a fan on the strawberry china plate. Mistakes could be forgiven, if Maybelle had a little something to munch on. The next hand, Grace must've made an even bigger mistake, for Maybelle threw her cards down on the table, and said, 'I give up! 'Grace, how could you possibly bid a grand slam in hearts 'with only three hearts and a string of worthless diamonds?' 'My diamonds were mixed in with my hearts.' I passed the brownies again. Promptly at quarter to five, Grace's limousine pulled up, filling the narrow side drive. Grace lived only three blocks from Lilith, but she never walked. 'Can I drop you off someplace, Maybelle dear?' Grace offered, the bridge game forgotten. That the tiny Grace could drop the huge Maybelle anywhere, made me start to giggle. But a warning glance from Lilith stopped that. Maybelle declined the offer to ride that day, and after Grace was gone, she and Lilith sat sipping the last of the coffee, talking in low whispers so I couldn't hear, and shaking their heads. I walked home with Maybelle. Maybelle lived on up the block from Lilith. I walked, Maybelle talked between gulps of air. 'Walking, the best exercise in the world. 'You youngsters don't do enough of it. 'You're gonna turn out to be a pack of weaklings. 'Civilized man has built a coach, 'but has lost the use of his feet. 'That's Emerson, child.' I didn't know anyone named Emerson, but I nodded. I wondered if Maybelle really liked to walk, as much as she claimed, or if she pretended she did because she didn't have a car, and Grace did. I decided to ask Lilith about that the next day, and I wanted to ask her about Grace too. And I did the very next morning. 'Does Grace drink? The quick bread was flowing into the narrow tin baking dish, prodded by swift darts of the wooden spoon, held firmly in Lilith's hand. 'The secret of making quick bread 'is to mix it quick and bake it quick, 'before the baking soda loses it's strength. 'I suppose that's why it's called quick bread, 'don't you think?' Perhaps Lilith had not heard my question above the clatter of the spoon, but I thought she had. 'Does she?' 'Does she what?' 'Does she drink?' 'Whom are you talking about?' 'Grace, does she drink?' Lilith slipped the quick bread into the oven, adjusting the temperature knob carefully. 'Just a touch below 350 degrees should do it, 'and we'll have quick bread for lunch.' I knew I was not to ask again, but I had to know. 'Maybelle told me once, \"If you wanna know something, ask.\"' Lilith, on the kitchen stool, eyed the oven as if guarding the bread from any catastrophe. I leaned over the stove and looked straight into her eyes, daring her to answer. 'Alright,' Lilith wiped the steam from her glasses on the corner of her apron. 'She drinks.' Somehow, hearing it was much worse than thinking it. Lilith's house was exciting when Grace was around, and now the wild magic of Grace wasn't magic at all. I studied the leaf pattern in Lilith's kitchen linoleum. 'You have to know Grace to understand. 'We all have our crutches.' 'Why does she do it?' Lilith wiped a finger mark off the oven door handle with her apron. 'Grace is one of the gentle ones, too fragile. 'She breaks easily.' I straightened up and felt bigger and wiser and more knowing than Lilith could ever be. 'Well, I think it's awful.' 'Life is a razor edge to Grace. 'She thinks she should be able to walk that edge. 'Sometimes she does for a moment or two. 'And who's to say a few moments bouncing on the edge, 'isn't worth a life of trying.' 'She shouldn't drink!' 'No, I don't suppose she should.' 'If it's a crutch, she should throw it away.' 'You judge like a child or a reformer.' 'I'm not a child.' 'Then you must be a reformer.' I did not like the sound of the word, or the tone of Lilith's voice. 'Now, Maybelle has her hats to make her taller.' Lilith was up to her old tricks, trying to lure me away from Lilith, lure me away from Grace. 'Oh, I thought she wore those hats 'because she so old-fashioned. 'Maybelle's tall enough already.' 'Oh no, you're very wrong. 'Maybelle is tiny, very tiny indeed. 'And very frightened.' 'And Grace?' I would get Lilith back to Grace. 'Now, Grace...' 'Is she afraid too?' 'Yes, Grace is afraid.' 'Of what?' 'Of growing old and ugly, of being alone, 'of having to look at herself, of living.' Lilith moved to the screen door, and watched Lord Jim making his way along the top of the picket fence. 'Does everybody have crutches?' 'I suspect so.' 'You too?' Lilith crossed over to the sink, and turned the faucet on full force into the mixing bowl. 'Well, do you? 'Do you have a crutch?' 'Only Lord Jim and...' I didn't really hear the last word. I thought she had said, 'And you.' I wasn't sure, and somehow I couldn't ask. Lilith was bent over the dish pan, clattering the silverware in a foam of suds. I picked up my book and went out to the willow.\"\r\n\r\n- Now and then.\r\n\r\n- We feel when we write for young adults, that young people should not be fed a romanticized version of life. I think they should know the realities of life. And I guess that's what our editors at Feminist Press like, that we did handle an alcoholic, we handled a suicide, Grace eventually commits suicide, and we handle a funeral. And we tried to do it with a light enough touch, as seen through the eyes of the child, that would not be sentimental or maudlin. I might mention before I read the next little portion which follows this, that Lilith was always reprimanding Ellen for slamming the screen door, correcting her English grammar.\r\n\r\n- Going barefoot.\r\n\r\n- And for going barefooted. However, there was one afternoon that Lilith suggested a break step day. Lilith lives on this little lake, where she's lived all her life. And when she was a young girl, she had learned how to canoe. So, canoeing was nothing new. So, she took Grace and Ellen, and they went for a picnic by taking a canoe up the inlet. So, before I read this, those things I guess help to set it up just to-\r\n\r\n- Or clarify, just a tad.\r\n\r\n- I want to clarify. If I can find the page.\r\n\r\n- Oh, of course you can. It's there in the back of the book some place. In the course of what goes on in between, there's a little edge between Lilith and Ellen, in the part that Annabel just read. By the time of Grace's funeral, they are beginning to come together, come to some kind of an understanding, an understanding with each other.\r\n\r\n- One other thing you may have to know, that Lilith has this nasty little habit of humming to herself.\r\n\r\n- Oh yes indeed.\r\n\r\n- Or singing a little song half under her breath. And it's always the same song which upsets the girl, as something she doesn't particularly enjoy.\r\n\r\n- And Ellen associates it very much with age, the woman doesn't know what she's doing. And of course, Lilith knows perfectly well what she's doing.\r\n\r\n- So, this is called \"Gentle Grace\" and this is the funeral. \"Grace's funeral was held on Saturday. Mother didn't think I should go. 'You're too young for funerals. 'They're so emotional, upsetting, barbaric really.' But I reminded her I was Lilith's companion. She looked sort of flustered and said, 'Well, I guess maybe 'in that case, you should go with Lilith. 'If she thinks you should, if she needs you.' I had to wear a dress to the funeral. My best dress was bright red with big splashes of white zigzagging across the front. 'Oh dear,' moaned mother, as she slipped the dress over the ironing board. 'This certainly isn't the thing to wear to a funeral. 'But it's the only dress you've got 'that fits you anymore, you've grown so this summer. 'It'll have to do.' I asked Lilith about the dress. 'It's exactly the right color. 'A funeral is a celebration, 'a celebration of life for us who are left, 'a celebration of having lived.' I knew perfectly well what a funeral was, but the idea of a celebration made me think of banners and flags and a parade, all for Grace, who would have loved it. The funeral was not like that at all. 'Why are we sitting here in the back of the church?' Lilith leaned over to whisper, 'We're just friends. 'Relatives sit up front.' But the front pews were empty, three whole rows. 'Is this Grace's church?' Lilith nodded with a forefinger to her lips. I had never been in the Grace Methodist Church before. I thought it was nice that Grace could have her own church for her funeral. I could hardly see around all the people in front of me, but when everybody stood up together, as if by a signal, I saw the bank of flowers across the altar. Grace would have loved all the flowers. There were no iris and I was glad. The relatives were late for the funeral. Organ music had been playing, it seemed forever, before they appeared behind it. 'Grace?' I whispered. Lilith nodded. Then she pressed her best linen handkerchief against her mouth. I had wondered when she used those handkerchiefs she kept in that little side drawer of her walnut dresser. The organ music swelled up and down and in and out, like the canoe when we came out of the inlet and hit the current. It set up a tinkling burr in the stained glass window beside us, a window with a shepherd sitting on a rock, with white lambs all around. Then everyone sat down. It was still, but I was glad the organ music was over. Then the minister began to talk, not really talk, but to explain in a voice that sounded very tired. It was as if he had explained all this many, many times before, but if we'd just listen once more, he'd give us the answers to all the questions in the world. Next, he read a story, a story about Grace, but it was more like history, when she was born and when she died, and not much in between. I wouldn't have known it was about Grace, if he hadn't kept saying her name. He stopped and it was still again. Someone coughed, someone sniffed. I looked up at Lilith. She did not approve of people who sniffed instead of blowing their noses. She had not noticed. A voice began to sing. I stretched up and peeked through a gap, where a man's neck swerved in from his shoulder. It was Maybelle, Maybelle in a black hat that flopped down around her ears, and up in front, like a pirate's hat. Maybelle sang the same way she walked, striding through the rhythm with a big voice that overpowered the organ. 'Shall we gather at the river, 'the beautiful, the beautiful river?' I kept thinking about our canoe trip up at the inlet. 'Gather at the shores of the river 'that flows by the throne of God.' I thought about the cold fried chicken and the potato salad and the homemade bread we ate out on Cottonwood Point that day. After that, the minister talked again a long, long time. He had many, many more answers in order, with a 'firstly' and a 'secondly.' The 'finally' was a long time coming. Maybelle sang another song, but I didn't listen. I counted all the women wearing hats in the audience, the tiny women, according to Lilith. I counted 29. Then we all stood up to leave. Grace got to go first. She'd have liked that too. Everybody walked very, very slowly, but then everyone was very, very old at Grace's funeral. Outside was a long line of cars with little blue flags, attached to their antennas. They did look sort of like a parade as they move slowly through town and up the West Hill toward Oak Hill cemetery. 'Aren't we going?' 'In the morning. 'We'll be alone then.' I wasn't sure which 'we' Lilith meant. We walked home through empty streets. I think everybody in town went to Grace's funeral. 'It was nice,' I said. Lilith was so silent, I felt as if I were walking alone. She looked down at me, the wrinkles in her forehead deepening. 'Nice, I suppose.' 'Is it hard to die, Lilith?' 'No, it's hard to live, as Grace discovered.' We sat together with Lord Jim on the back steps. 'I don't think it's hard to live. 'You just wake up every morning and live.' 'The decisions, the choices.' 'Who gets choices, I sure don't.' 'Remembering when you get old, 'that there are choices 'that you are still capable of making. 'I believe it's called hanging in.' I slipped off my shoes. 'Were you ever sorry you did something, Lilith? 'I mean, if you could do it all over again, 'would you do things the same?' 'I wouldn't change the big things, I would the little. 'I think I'd spend more time sitting under a willow, 'throw out my clocks and live on sun time. 'I'd slam the screen door more often, 'and I believe I'd kick off my shoes 'and go barefooted so I could touch growing things. 'I might even forget who and whom, 'and I would want, want so strongly 'that I could trade a summer of my life. 'for a 10-speed bicycle.' I stroked Lord Jim, letting his tail run through my half closed fist. I wanted to stand right up and say, 'See, I told you,' for Lilith was seeing eye to eye with me. But sometimes winning isn't much fun. Lilith started to sing then, the same song, her song, clear through. 'The golden rod is yellow. 'The leaves are turning brown. 'The trees in apple orchard with fruit are bending down. 'The gentian's bluest fringes 'are curling in the sun. 'In dusty pods, the milkweed, 'it's hidden silk has spun.' And it was much sadder than Maybelle's funeral song, but it was a sweet sadness, like thinking of home when you're away. 'Gentle Grace,' Lilith breathed like an amen, and stood up slowly and went inside to make our tea.\"\r\n\r\n- Well, Lilith was a surprise to us, an enormous surprise. We wrote it aimed at a young audience. And one of the things we wanted to do, was to try to show them that age has value and has beauty, that the fears and emotions of someone older, are the same as a young person's fear. Consequently, we sent it.\r\n\r\n- Well, we had a literary agent at that time, in New York, and we sent it to her. And she sent it back immediately and said, \"It is not a young adult book, it's not an adolescent book.\"\r\n\r\n- That they won't handle it.\r\n\r\n- Yes, \"And I won't handle it.\" So, we thought, \"Well, gosh, if it isn't an adolescent book, \"then it is a woman's book,\" we thought.\r\n\r\n- It should have some appeal to some woman somewhere.\r\n\r\n- So, we sent it to Feminist Press, and they wrote back and said, \"We'll read it, \"but we don't publish children's books.\"\r\n\r\n- \"Or young adult books. \"We'll read it and comment on it.\" Which was, you know, a marvelous thing for no fee, that they were willing to do. Marvelous people there. But then, thank God, Lilith exerted what we feel is some amount of charm, and they liked her, they loved her. And they said, \"Well, even if we don't, we will.\" So-\r\n\r\n- Yes, something.\r\n\r\n- So, it was a nice little end to that kind of a story. People have asked us, various places, about the people in the book. And the usual question is, \"Are those real people?\" You know, \"Were they real people that you picked up somehow, \"and transplanted into this?\"\r\n\r\n- Yeah, my younger brother wrote from Washington after I sent him a copy. And he said, \"It was Aunt Jen, wasn't it? And I said-\r\n\r\n- Lilith?\r\n\r\n- Yes, Lilith. And I said, \"Well, no, I don't believe so.\" But after he said it, I thought, \"Well, I suppose yes, in a way.\" And-\r\n\r\n- But certainly not really. Somebody asked me if it was my grandmother. And I said, \"No, it's not Grandmother, it's not my mother. \"Maybe it's who I'd like to be someday, \"or who Annabelle would like to be at 77. \"I wouldn't mind that.\" The Eskimo thing-\r\n\r\n- I think the interesting one, was a woman that wrote and said, \"I must have two or three copies, \"because it reminded me so much of my grandmother.\" And her grandmother on her mother's side was an Eskimo in Alaska. So, there must be a universality to Lilith.\r\n\r\n- A few bits and pieces came from reality. The song that Lilith repeats through over and over, I stole very nicely from a friend, who was at one time in her career, a Girl Scout leader. And they used to sing it at Girl Scout camp. And she somehow remembered it, and it somehow fit. The canoe trip which we refer to in there is for real. It was a little trip Annabelle and I took, from her husband's and her cottage up on the lake. And there was mud indeed. There was not a sumptuous lunch of fried chicken, et cetera. We had a six pack of beer as I recall. But the mud and the pulling the canoe was there. That same evening, what is it, the Carlson house?\r\n\r\n- Yes, we went up to the Carlson house at Sac city and-\r\n\r\n- Nice restaurant.\r\n\r\n- And there were some of my friends from my hometown. And there we met Maybelle and later on we met Grace. And we immediately, we gathered them up there, I think.\r\n\r\n- But the people are bits and pieces of a thousand, you know, things. If we had a motto, we do have a motto as a matter of fact.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Under which we write, which is called, \"Nothing is wasted,\" and nothing is. Even a boring moment, When you're sitting, waiting for the trains to go through this town, something is going on that you can pick up and you can use in some way or another.\r\n\r\n- Oh yes, somebody, when my children were small we had a Siamese cat, Fred Farkle. And of course, all my children thought that-\r\n\r\n- Are convinced.\r\n\r\n- Yes, that Lord Jim was Fred Farkle.\r\n\r\n- One other thing about, you know, the real life and how it gets transposed, and you don't know what you're doing. Someplace in the book we describe Lilith's house. The kid, the child, thinks of it is smelling like musty, musky, old. Annie.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- One of your daughters.\r\n\r\n- Used to have a paper round when she was a little girl and she had to collect on Saturday morning. And there was always one house she didn't like to go into. And so she, of course, called me and said, \"You stole from me!\" And I hadn't, I'd forgotten that, but must've lodged somewhere.\r\n\r\n- It stays in your head. Well, you know, we're convinced that, you know, we've talked about this before. Writers are supposed to be these marvelously observant people who are watching everything, you know, every movement. We aren't. We are probably non-observant. But I think you said before, we work on the process of osmosis?\r\n\r\n- Yes, I have a friend that when she walks in the room, can tell you all the jewelry that anybody has on.\r\n\r\n- How many diamonds per finger.\r\n\r\n- Yes, and where the pictures are on the wall. And I will leave and I haven't even seen the diamonds. But I think that's why, I think we have a mind of a 12-year-old. The sensation or the feeling of the room is there. And eventually, I guess, it just creeps in, and it's actually, you use it, I think.\r\n\r\n- You know, how kids and dogs work? They smell. I don't mean they smell, they sniff things out. They either like people, or cats, we were talking about cats before, they like immediately or they don't like immediately. There's no reason to it, but it's a feeling in the air. And I think that goes into this, besides you being Welsh.\r\n\r\n- But yes, I claim that I'm a really a Welsh witch and have mystical powers, so that's how things-\r\n\r\n- I changed the pronunciation on that several times, but we don't remember that. But I do think there is some kind of extra thing that goes on in the world. Moving right along, Another thing that we kind of wanted to say tonight, I dunno, not by way of explanation, maybe in a way, defining to ourselves, we are fascinated with writing about women. Do you wanna go on with that or?\r\n\r\n- Yes, I-\r\n\r\n- The why of it or the how of it?\r\n\r\n- Yes, Lee wrote something to one of our editors and she picked it up. And the idea of it was that women are interested in the art of living not dying. And that's sort of, I got thinking about it, it's very true. From back into primitive times, when we were living in tribes, you know, the men were the hunters, and the women were the protectors. And after all, life comes from us. And I think that women are a very complex kind of character to explore. And also that idea, that women are interested in the art of life and of living. And this again, crosses all generations.\r\n\r\n- I guess, one of the things we try to do in writing about women, one of the things that interests us in writing about women, is getting, trying to, okay, 'cause we're apprentices, still, trying to get past the roles, the child, the middle-aged woman, the working woman, the wife, the old woman, trying to get past those roles that a woman is in and trying to explore something about who we are behind those things and underneath those things. Very complex and fascinating.\r\n\r\n- It helps to have raised three daughters too.\r\n\r\n- It doesn't hurt.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- It doesn't hurt.\r\n\r\n- See how they operate.\r\n\r\n- It doesn't hurt that we are both women ourselves. That helps, I think, a whole lot. Also, I'll tell you something else that helps. We hadn't thought about this, until we thought about it tonight. We come from absolutely the same kind of childhood background. Grown up on a farm, little kids, out there, running around with your feet in the mud and that sort of thing, you know? After that, our lives went in completely two different directions. My lifestyle and Elle's lifestyle are very far apart.\r\n\r\n- Mm hmm.\r\n\r\n- So, that, I think, I think it's a good thing, because I think we can bring two such very, very different and still common things together, and bring them to bear in here.\r\n\r\n- Now that doesn't mean that we don't sometimes, and in some of the other books, certainly, men characters. I have a son too, so I can write about how a son grows up too.\r\n\r\n- Well, I know men, kind of. But. Well, the one that we're revising and working on now, we thought.\r\n\r\n- That is, say something about, is what does it take for two people to write together? Stuck forever in a 12-year-old, 'cause that's how old that sense of humor is. The things that we find funny in the world, are the same things. The things we find funny in ourselves are the same thing. There is practically nothing. The only thing that I can think of that we don't laugh at, or don't find something funny, is the process of writing. That, we take very, very seriously. But everything else is fun,\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- and funny.\r\n\r\n- And along with that, if you do write with someone, you have to be very hard-shelled about, that at any time, there is something that you write, that think, is, \"Here is a line, \"that will go down and literary history.\"\r\n\r\n- \"This is a line that will make the entire book and-\"\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Win us a Pulitzer Prize.\r\n\r\n- And goes up against the sounding board and Lee doesn't like it. You can't feel crushed. I mean, you did. So, we have a rule for that. We say, \"Alright, we'll put it in parentheses \"with a question mark.\" And nine times out of 10, the next time or we go through it, why, it's just naturally dropped out, that either the other one has seen it, or the other hasn't. Well, we might tell them a little bit about how we work. We started when we were first going with Lilith, we started with the idea, that I'd write a chapter and then I'd give it to Lee, and then she'd revise it and give it back to me. And then I'd rework it and give it back to her, and so on.\r\n\r\n- They kept appearing, these chapters kept appearing, under windshield wipers in the parking lot, and they got very soggy out there sometimes. In the mailbox at school, slipped under a door, mailed through the real mail, but that took too long. It was better to do it with the windshield wipers.\r\n\r\n- And we found that after going through all this process then, that we never really did get it down on paper the way we wanted to, until we both sat down together, and said, \"Now, shall we use this or this or this or this?\" And finally, we got wise to the fact, that it's much easier if one of us sits at the typewriter, the other sits on the couch or on the floor, or wherever is convenient, and we talk each line through before it goes on the page.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, literally no line goes down on a sheet of paper, that hasn't been played with out loud first.\r\n\r\n- Now, you may think that sounds like it's long, but I think during the summer, we try to save our summers, so that we start work at eight o'clock in the morning, sometimes earlier.\r\n\r\n- 7:30!\r\n\r\n- And work straight through till one, without a break. And nobody's supposed to telephone us or call us. And that my husband comes home at lunch for one and-\r\n\r\n- At lunch for one or one for lunch?\r\n\r\n- One for lunch. And we stop then. But usually, we always aim for eight pages or more. Whichever comes first, eight pages or one o'clock.\r\n\r\n- True.\r\n\r\n- Eight pages or one o'clock. But we have found that that's much more efficient way to write, than this going back and forth.\r\n\r\n- And forth, and wasting an awful lot of time, I think, in the process of doing it. One other thing, and then you can do one other thing, alright?\r\n\r\n- Alright.\r\n\r\n- One other thing. Disagreements, how often do, Annabel's talked about parenthesis and question marks and all that sort of thing. We seldom really do disagree about anything. I think part of that has to do with the fact that after writing together for a little while, our style, whatever it might be in a particular book, is so blended that when we finish a page-\r\n\r\n- Yeah, some of our reviews, some of our nice reviews, incidentally, have quoted a little line. And I'd say, \"well, that's nice, they quoted your line.\" And she said, \"No, I don't believe that was mine. \"I believe it was yours.\" And-\r\n\r\n- And it isn't either one.\r\n\r\n- We're not quite sure whose line it was.\r\n\r\n- Because when we finish a page, we can't tell who wrote this and who wrote that. It's there and it's solid. Now, what were you going to say? Something about Mesquaki and the last things we got?\r\n\r\n- Yes, well, Feminist Press very nicely, you know when you sign a book contract, then they get priority on your next work? And so they very nicely accepted our next work which we were very happy. And this, I'd always wondered, I had helped write an Iowa history book, and it always, the Mesquaki Indian tribe in Iowa always fascinated me. This tribe of, mistakenly called Fox Indians, that had been driven from Iowa by, we Iowan's were very good, we bought it up in little treaties, you know?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Five cents an acre.\r\n\r\n- You did.\r\n\r\n- And they didn't want to leave Iowa, until the government sends the dragoons out, and took them off to Kansas. But they, some of them stayed back. But some of the rest of them down in Kansas, saved their payments and bought land through the governor of Iowa at that time, 80 acres up on the Iowa River. And they all came back, and then they kept buying land, until they now, the tribe owns the 3000 acres up around Tama. I always thought, what would it have been like, to have been a girl in that culture at that time, and to have seen your family driven out, and then have come back with a family. And so that was our second one and sometimes, I guess whatever one we're reading is our favorite.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it it, isn't it?\r\n\r\n- So, I will read just briefly, the opening, and just two paragraphs into the second part, so, you can see what type of thing we've tried to do with this.\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, by the way, was it, the tribe was Mesquaki. They were miss-called by Whites, Fox. Their own name for themselves, were the Red Earth People, the Red Earth People, who were made first from the red clay of riverbanks, first man. The Sac who were, what do you call it? Not a calling, but you know?\r\n\r\n- A tribe.\r\n\r\n- A tribe with whom they warred, and so on, were called the Yellow Earth People.\r\n\r\n- Alright, this is called \"The Beginning.\" \"'Get the birth house ready,' shouted Gray Gull. The Red Earth People were returning to their summer camp. For four suns and four sleeps, they had followed the big water South from the winter hunts. Not once had Soft Cloud, big with child, stumbled, though she carried the heavy bear skin of the winter lodge strapped upon her back. 'Put the birth house by the river for the cleansing,' Gray Gull directed. The older women shed their packs and rushed to the willows, while Gray Gull chose the sturdy lodge poles herself. They must be strong, her labor will be hard. Dogs barked, children ran along familiar paths leading to the river. While the younger women began repairing their summer lodges and digging up the buried bundles of dried food from the autumn before. At the far end of the village, Great Bear, the chief, sat among the braves just back from the winter hunt, as they told of their kills. Soft Cloud loosened the leather straps from her shoulders and slumped down. She had told Gray Gull of the pains at midday. 'My daughter, the child must not be born in the fields,' Gray Gull warned. 'It would be a disgrace for you and your husband, 'Great Bear, hurry on.' The pains were coming faster now. The older women tugged the willow branches into place over the bent lodge poles, as Gray Gull, snatched up the straps and fastened them at the top of the birth blankets. The women brought them to her. 'Now Soft cloud,' Gray Gull ordered, 'Come to the birth hut. 'Hold to this strap, when you feel the pain. 'I will wait outside.' Gray Gull moved to the edge of the river, and sat in the new grass. The river Iowa, swelled by the rain-swirled bank high before her. 'Grandmother Earth,' she said, 'you have taught my eyes to see beyond this day. 'My ears, to hear words not yet spoken. 'I honor the strong medicine flowing from you through me. 'Care for us and for this girl child who will be. 'Teach her your ways, 'so she too will be honored among our Red Earth People.' The shadows of the willows touched the fire bank of the river. No sound came from the birth hut. 'Gray Gull,' a young woman whispered, 'one has come from the Yellow Earth People. 'He speaks with Great Bear.' 'He will speak no good. 'He will talk of white ones' treaties 'that force us from our land.' Across the village, Great Bear, his face hard like the stone of the riverbed, leaned against the trunk of an elm and listened to the messenger. 'White ones put their feet 'in the trail of the Mesquaki and Sac. 'They make our land into fields and gardens. 'We are told to leave.' Great Bear frowned, his eyes narrow like a tree cat's at night. 'They are as a drop of raccoon grease, 'falling on a blanket,' the one of the Yellow Earth had said. 'At first we cannot see the grease, 'but soon it covers the blanket.' Great Bear turned his face to the sky. 'This is so. 'We were once strong, White ones but a handful of pebbles. 'Once the land of the Wisconsin was ours. 'The land of the big water ours. 'Now all is gone. 'Only the Iowa land is ours. 'Yet they say,' the Yellow Earth one went on, 'it is written in the treaty, we must leave.' 'I know no treaty.' Great Bear's hand cut through the air. 'Speak no more of a treaty. 'We stay here on our Iowa.' 'Bluecoats will come with many horses and guns.' 'We stay, we will not fight as our grandfathers did, 'but we will stay.' Dusk had fallen and the village was quiet, as Gray Gull crept into the birth hut. 'How is the pain?' 'I can bear it,' Soft Cloud muttered. 'Lie down, when you feel the pain come again, 'sit on your knees and hold to the strap.' It was midnight, the child had not come. Gray Gull boiled the herbs and said, 'It is alright. 'You have been wise, you have not eaten of the hazelnut, 'You did not eat burnt food, 'You did not lie with Great Bear, your husband, 'you have carried much wood on your back. 'The child will come.' She brought a bowl to Soft Cloud. 'Sit up, I will hold you while drink this.' As Soft Cloud drank, Gray Gull sang. 'Come out, you are a girl. 'There is no need to hide in fear. 'You are a girl, come out.' She sang the song four times. 'Now she will be born, lie down.' At dawn, the child came. 'The way she breaks through the water of birth, 'her life shall be washed in sorrow and rinsed in joy,' Gray Gull proclaimed. Holding me in her arms, with the trailings of my birth still upon me, she said, 'She will be called Hidden Doe. 'And she shall learn to carry the ways 'of the Red Earth People into many generations.' So Gray Gull, my grandmother told it to me.\" And just two paragraphs into the next. Will you hold it so we can get there?\r\n\r\n- With a switch of point of view.\r\n\r\n- Yes, we want you to get the switch point of view. This is called \"Along the Iowa.\" \"She was waiting in Stony Creek, the first time I saw her. Her hair, the flaming red of autumn sumac, fell over her shoulders down to her waist. She held up her brown skirt with one hand as she balanced herself with the other, and walked among the slippery rocks. Her legs were thin like reeds and white as birch bark. I hid in a clump of willows and watched. In all my eight summers, I had never seen a White one. Clutching Spotted Fawn, my doll, I huddled deeper among the branches. I looked all around the banks of the creek but I could not see the sickness and the firewater, the Great Bear, my father, said all White one's bring. All I could see were heavy leather moccasins on the far bank and a headdress made of cloth. She was not evil. With a clam shell, she was pouring water into crayfish hole and singing a strange song, with sounds that ran together like the call of a dove. 'She's no bigger than I,' I whispered to Spotted Fawn. 'But she is White.' I hugged my doll closer and bent even lower. 'She is playing, Spotted Fawn. 'See, on the bank? 'She has made little bowls of mud that dry in the sun.' It was then I heard the loud cry from far down the stream. 'Mary?' The White creature stood still, then like a frightened beaver, she hurried from the water. Her headdress over her hair, and carrying her heavy moccasins, disappeared through the long grass. 'Spotted Fawn,' I giggled, 'that is nothing to fear. 'She is not evil. 'She is me, but she is White.' I did not go back to my people at once. I sat among the willows and wondered many things.\"\r\n\r\n- She grows up in the course of the book. She gets to be 18 and, you know, a whole bunch of things. And yeah, and that's the way it goes. Well, listen, you've been very patient, and very, very nice indeed, in sitting there and listening to a lot of reading and some chattering, I guess. If there's anything you'd like to know, we'd be happy to say something pretend intelligent. And if not, we simply thank you for being here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43896/file/116963#t=0.0,2881.07102"}]}]}]}