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And so,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3047.91,3050.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, it's it's in a way, it's centers like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3053.19,3057.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/983","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this are set up to have an uneasy relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3057.9,3061.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we all understand that that's that's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3062.16,3064.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nature of what it's about. The important or more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3064.26,3067.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important thing, I think, is whether or not the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3067.53,3070.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Iowa state legislature continues to see the center","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3070.8,3073.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/988","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as as being a benefit to Iowa and and that's what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3073.71,3078.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/989","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we need to be accountable to, responsible for. We","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3078.3,3080.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/990","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"need to demonstrate to taxpayers that they're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3080.52,3082.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/991","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"getting their money's worth for the contribution","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3082.26,3086.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/992","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they make to the center. And I think that if we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3086.07,3088.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/993","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"move in these directions and and can begin to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3088.38,3091.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/994","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stimulate some new economies, et cetera, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3091.56,3093.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/995","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"provide better, you know, better approaches to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3093.93,3096.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/996","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"agricultural production that, you know, if if if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3097.29,3101.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/997","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the water in Iowa gets cleaner, everybody benefits","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3101.28,3103.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/998","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because it's less costly to drink clean water than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3105.3,3108.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/999","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it is to drink dirty water. And it's, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3108.27,3111.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/1000","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that has other ramifications, of course. OK, well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3111.99,3115.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/1001","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we'll go ahead and stop here. I want to thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3115.23,3117.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/1002","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very much play.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528#t=3117.0,3118.64"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23721/annotation/1003","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/023/721/original/MS0638_Kirschenmann_Fred.vtt?1614078931","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/023/721/original/MS0638_Kirschenmann_Fred.vtt?1614078931"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23722","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0638_Kirschenmann_Fred.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1057/collection_resources/38655/file/109528/transcript/23722/annotation/1004","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- In its culture, its September 13th, Thursday at 10:00 o'clock, and this interview with Dr. Fred Posman, director of the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture here at Iowa State, and would you like to start off and tell about your background? You grew up in North Dakota. I did. I was born in North Dakota on the farm, which is still in the family. And I. Was pretty much grounded to the farm until I went to college. And by that, I mean I didn't do a lot of traveling outside of North Dakota, went to college at Yankton College in South Dakota, a small liberal arts college, and and then went on to seminary from there in Hartford Seminary Foundation in Hartford, Connecticut, and then the University of Chicago. And all of that was because of part of the reason for that was because my father always resented the fact that he couldn't get as much education as he wanted because his family felt that when while well, has his father, my grandfather told him, when you have enough education to be able to figure out the scale take of the grain elevator, that's enough. Then you stay home and work. So that's an observation. So I grew up in an environment in which you would always understand I would go to college and it was just an expectation. Exactly right. And how large was your father's from a large. Well, it started out very small. My father and mother got married in 1930. And and then. Leased that farm initially and initially, I think it was just two quarter sections that would have been three hundred twenty eight, in fact, to the fact it was a quarter section and a half, as I recall. So that would have been. About 200 acres. And. They never intended to stay there, and it was supposed to be a short time and my father always had visions of getting into the Red River Valley to farm for various reasons that just never turned out. But anyway, so and so, they started farming in very, very tough times because the 1930s, of course, were one crop failure after another, either to drought or disease or one thing or another. But they stuck with it. Yes, they did. And then the nineteen forties were the major expansion years for fun, those were those were always referred to as the good years. They were years when the costs of. Farm products were relatively low and prices were good, and so the farm expanded over the years and by 1996 was. It was about twenty six hundred acres. And then I went off to after I finished graduate work, I ended a career in higher education for a time, initially teaching, and then ended up in administration. And in 1976, my father had a mild heart attack and he announced to the family that he was going to try to find somebody else to manage the farm. His doctor told him that, you know, he could live a long and productive life so long as he got out from under the stress of managing. So. I was getting a little bored with academic life at that time and was living in Boston, which, you know, big cities have never been my favorite place to be. And I had in the meantime, learned about organic agriculture, actually from a student of mine when I was arrested and was intrigued by it, particularly because it goes back to my father's early experience with farming in the Dust Bowl in the 1930s. He determined he knew that that wasn't just the weather, it was also the way they farm. He determined that would never, ever happen again on his farm. And so he was very insistent that we keep covering the land, that we not allow land to drift to wind erosion. And so I grew up, you know, the notion that you take care of the land was as much of a moral mandate as helping your neighbor or any other moral mandate. And so learning about organic agriculture from a student who is David Vitter, who's now runs an organic farm and processing plant in Nebraska. And one of the things that David was intrigued about was organic agriculture, it was the improvement in soil quality. And so that, of course, connected with my moral upbringing. And and I had, of course, discussed this with my father over the years, you know, prior to his heart attack, and he agreed that, you know, my father was also very progressive. And so he was actually the first farmer in our country to start using commercial fertilizers and pesticides when they became available in the late 1940s, did so only after he had satisfied himself as a result of talking with the extension service and with other farmers whose opinion he respected, that this would not hurt, that this would not hurt his land. He was convinced that it wouldn't hurt his land. He he decided to use those inputs by the time we had conversations around organic agriculture. He had become aware because he started to lease some land from a neighbor whose health failed and wanted him to farm this land for them. And the neighbor had never used the industrial methods. He had always continued to. He didn't consider himself an organic farmer, but he had always continued to use green manure, cover crops and livestock manure as his source of fertility rather than bringing fertilizers in. And when my father started farming his land and all of it was adjacent to our land in one way or another. And of course, he initially leased the land on the sharecrop basis we to keep the crops separate. So he was it was clear what the differences were. See the comparison, right? Yeah. And consistently the wheat that he harvested from the neighbor's land was one or two teaspoons higher than the wheat harvest from our land. And he just knew it had to be something in the land because there was no other and everything else was the same, to use the same methods, etc.. So he became convinced, whether rightly or wrongly, that it was because the neighbor had not used the fertilizers but had used so building across it. So now David was telling me the same thing. And so my father connected with that right away. So I asked him one day whether that meant he was going to start farming or managing the farm organically. And he very quickly responded, Oh, no. He said, what you're talking about is an altogether different way of farming. And that's not for me anymore. That's for somebody else. And he was 68 years old. And so then when he made that announcement of, you know, I I was just intrigued with the notion of, you know, could we make this work on the farm of that scale that I meant to say almost 3000 acres and. So we talked about it and I told him, I said that if we could do that, I'd be interested in coming back to manage it. And he just said, well, whatever works, he was ready to retire. I have to ask you first, you said that it was always expected that you would go to college. Did you go to the rural school district in the area? And what was that like? Sure. My first six grades was in the country school, which was just two miles from my front of a one room schoolhouse, which I still think is an intriguing model for education because, you know, as a third grader, I was listening in on the seventh and eighth graders discuss Shakespeare. And, you know, it was so, you know, you you you have education going on around you in addition to the education that specifically geared to your to your age group. And I always thought it was a great education, seventh and eighth grade. By the time I reached seventh grade, they were taking the upper classes into town for school in Medina. And that's where I went to high school and then as I on the college. I have to ask, too, because you left the upper Midwest to go to the East Coast. What that was like from from your cultural. So I would think that would have been a tremendous shock. Yeah, well, my first first experience and of course, was Connecticut in Hartford and the the first experience being in Connecticut with, you know, the hills and trees was claustrophobic. You know, I had to get into the car at weekends and go out and drive up the top of the hills to look out the you know, the culture shock wasn't so much. I mean, you know. People are people wherever they are, and if you can get past some of the changes in or the differences in the way in which they conduct their public lives, you know, privately and now everybody's very similar. And and I happen to while I was going to seminary, was also had a student internship at a church in one of the local smaller communities. And you got to know those folks really well. And so it was kind of home that probably made a big difference to do. Very much so. And so you went back yeah, I went back to the farm in 1976, and of course back then there was very little information available about how to actually do organic farming on the ground. I mean, the principles I understood had had long conversations with David about that. And when I decided to go back because I was on the phone with David a lot in terms of, you know, what do I do now? And David said, well, you know, I really can't be very helpful to you in terms of specifics, because this is a very site specific kind of agriculture. I can you know, I can tell you you need to do a good crop rotation. I can't tell you which crops are going to work good in the rotation. I can tell you for Nebraska, but I can't say for North Dakota. So it was pretty much trial and error and a lot of error. You know, I didn't I didn't appreciate fully the complexity of those systems if they're going to work. Well, you know, I understood we needed to do crop rotations, but didn't didn't understand the the some of the the real principles behind that. You know, I knew that you shouldn't, you know, plant wheat two years in a row, but and that probably wheat and barley wasn't a rotation. But, you know, later on, of course, we learned that, you know, you need to alternate cool season and warm season crops. It's best if you can alternate Grassie plants and broadleaf plants. It's best to keep an alternate deep rooted and shallow root. All of that I had to learn along the way because it was really no information around that available. So figuring out a crop rotation that worked well for our soil and and climate, our soil and climate, that worked well for the markets, that worked well, given our specific farm with it, you know, so we didn't have to purchase a lot of equipment and hardware to make that work, you know, figuring all of that out. That was the major challenge. Once we got that figured out, the rest started to fall into place. But and then the other thing was that, you know, the first year and one of the things that David said was what you really should do is you should go slow, you know, only do as much organically as you figure you can risk and then be sure to plant test strips, you know, within the organic field so that you've got your organic field and then you've got a test trip that you're doing a conventionally. So you've got a comparison so that you can figure out, you know, when you're getting it right. Yeah, right. And I said, David, you know, we've got three thousand acres. I can't I can't I don't have you know, I can't I don't have time to do test strips. And so he said, well he said at least then do companion fields said, OK, we can do that. So, you know, you do an organic field in and we here and then across the country to an organic field are you do a conventional field. And so we did that and I figured, you know, we can risk a third of our acreage the first year. And so that's what we did. We planted a convenient companion field as much as we could and then track the difference. And that first year there wasn't enough difference to write home about. The yields were relatively similar. There weren't any serious wheat problems. And so I thought, hey, you know, this is a piece of cake. What's everybody talking about? This transition, things that didn't work out. So next year we sat the whole farm. And how did that go? Big disaster. Big disaster. And of course, looking back on it now, it's very easy to see what happened. I mean, that first year, first of all, it was an ideal growing season, was a nice warm spring. Nitrogen was available. I'm sure we had residual fertilizers from years before. There wasn't a lot of wheat pressure. And the and because the nitrogen was readily available, you know, crops came up quickly. So everything to that, everything worked just perfectly. In that second, it was just the opposite. Cold spring nitrogen was tied up, crops emerged slowly. Weeds came on like gangbusters. And it was it was just a big disaster. So then, of course, we're now into its second year or so, do we go back and do it? And I finally worked it out and just see if we can make this work. And then I really started to know, put some time and energy into figuring out for myself what what would work best. I had not also sufficiently appreciated the need for agreement or cover crop in the rotation where that should be placed in the system. And so so we just really I mean, I just put all of my time into trying to figure that out and trying different kinds of crop combinations. We were also at that time just beginning to be aware of organic markets. When we started. I didn't know it was just anyone. So I started to explore that as a second. So as soon as we qualified, we could start getting some. And. And then and then that also started to feed into the information in terms of topics. So by about our fourth year into it, you know, we had things pretty well under control. And in nineteen. Haiti, we sold our first crops on the organic market, got a small premium, and then the whole thing started to start to work. Now, you said there wasn't a lot of information in writing. That's right. I'm assuming especially university extension offices did not. In fact, I went to our county agent when we the first year when I came back and I just said, here's what here's what we're planning to do. And, you know, do you have any information that can help us? And he just sort of sat back and said, well, he said what you're planning to do. He said, I guess there's a few people, you know, that sell into direct markets, you know, that are probably doing OK with that. But you don't want to do this on a kind of scale you're talking about. And he clearly had neither information or interest. And so I just said, well, you know, that's not going to be a source of information. So basically, you were on the ticket and kept detailed records from year to year so you would remember what you've done. Now, the other thing that happened was that in 1979, there were three young entrepreneurs in Bismarck, North Dakota, that had inherited some money and they decided to create a organic company. Their intent was to sell natural fertilisers and other inputs that qualified for organic farming and make a business out of that. And they developed videos. They bought television ads. I mean, they really went into it in a big way, clearly had not anticipated what the market was. And so eventually they went belly up. But in the meantime, what one of the things they did in 1979 was they organized the first major conference in organic agriculture in Bismarck, North Dakota. And then they because they were interested in creating this business, they had identified who all of the organic farmers were in the tri state area, fostered a network, so to speak. And so that conference brought together for the first time all of the organic farmers in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota. And, you know, and I had been assuming this whole time that I was the only one in North Dakota. I don't know anybody else that was doing this. I get to this conference and here were two hundred people showed up, you know, from this. Must've been a good feeling, though. It wasn't really it was fantastic. And and they and they had done a really good job of organizing the conference center. And, you know, they had farmers address all the farmers and tell them what their experiences were, etc.. And at lunchtime, I was sitting at the table with a group of farmers, most of them from North Dakota, come from other states. And I said, you know, I said the thing that I have to forget the fertilizer stuff. You know, what's really important here is of the network of growers that we really need to continue continue this. We need to continue to talk to each other because we're the ones that have the information. We can't get it from anybody else. And they all agreed. And one of the one of the business partners was at the table with us. And he said what we said, if you guys want to organize something you said, that'd be great. He said, you know, why don't we after at the end of the conference at four o'clock, I'll be happy to announce at noon when we went to plenary, when we got back together for a plenary session, you know, so that anybody that's interested can get together. I said, great, let's do that. And so I thought that maybe four or five guys will show up. And so after the conference was over, I went up to the room and twenty seven people stayed, all of them interested in let's make this happen. Let's create the broad effort. And so that's when we started. Initially it was called the North Dakota National Farmers Association. And later we renamed it to the Northern Plains Sustainable Agriculture Society. And that was the beginning of the grower network up there and our stated purpose, what we did and if we agreed that that afternoon each person there took some responsibility, you know, somebody was going to check on bylaws that we needed to organize it and somebody else was going to check on, you know, how do we set up a membership organization and how do we get some initial funding, et cetera. And and then we agreed to get back together in March. This was in late December. We agreed to get back together again in March and to our information. And so when we got back together in March, there were 14 of us that showed up and we organized the road network and we organized it then as an educational organization, that was its fundamental purpose for farmers to educate all the farmers. And, you know, the United States still wagonload society is still up and running now, it's now got a membership of over 300 or so. You mostly did educational programs or basically just an effort to get information for people that might be interested. Later on, we started to get involved in some marketing efforts, but primarily it's been an educational. And probably a good network. Oh, it was it was a lifesaver, you know, just being able to learn, you know, what other farmers had done, what they tried, things that they had tried and failed. You know, we didn't have to try again and then, you know, learning other things that worked and then, you know, applying them back on farm. And we had farm tours. Still, to some extent, the farmers have sort of outlived their usefulness. I know. But they were critical. You know, those early farm tours, we used to have 150 people show up for a farm, too, and you basically would walk into the fields and physically tell them what you're trying to do. Yeah, right. Exactly. And so so the network kind of grew now at the same time you're teaching, is that correct? The ancient, you know, an actual farm? I was that was when I went in 1976. I left higher education completely. And how was what was was that an adjustment? Well, it was initially, you know, when because from 1976 to 1980. And I was really alone. I mean, you know, I wasn't I didn't know there was anybody else doing this. So it was it was pretty hard. And I miss the students like hell. And I really enjoyed that. But then once we started this network, well, then, you know, you get new kinds of you started flowing again. And and then the other thing that happened was in. Oh, let's see, the the. Wingfoot, sustainable agriculture. Provision, which was part of the. 19. What, 1984 farm bill? Not sure on the data, but it was one of the 1980 farm bills included this provision for low income, sustainable agriculture. And then, of course, as is usually the case, Congress didn't appropriate any money for it, but they liked the idea. But several groups, including the Rodale Center in Pennsylvania, wanted to lobby to get some money in that program. And and, of course, one of the one of the big stumbling blocks back then was that everybody assumed that sustainable agriculture was for highly farmers, that the farmers didn't do that. And and also at that time, Senator Burdick from North Dakota was the chair of the appropriations of the Agriculture Appropriations Committee. And so this group that was trying to lobby for this decided they needed a fair Kotov, a real farmer who did sustainable agriculture to convince verdict that he ought to put some money into the program. And so they asked me if I would come out for the Senate hearings for this legislation and for the appropriations. And so I agreed to go out and initially I was supposed to get five minutes when it when we got to the actual hearing, they cut it to three minutes. And so I just you know, I had some I had a prepared statement, but since it has been cut to three minutes, I just decided to just tell you what our experience had been. And and there were several reporters in the room and picked up some of the things that I said, and and that's when the whole speaking circuit started, I started to get called on to do public presentation to that and wavefunction. How many how many did you end up doing a year? Did you say? Well, by 1990 I was doing probably 30 talks a year into what kind of groups would you. Well, most of them. Most of them to farm groups. But, you know, I I addressed the forgotten what the exact title is, but the chemical companies, the trade association meeting in Washington. So I was invited to do some of those because people were just curious about what this was all about. I was going to ask what kind of response you got from the different groups like companies and farmers? Well, you know, to all the responses were pretty predictable. You know, obviously, groups who had a vested interest in keeping agriculture away the way it is would try to undermine my story, had something wrong with it, you know, that would discredit it to keep things the way they were companies or environmental groups or conservation groups who were interested in seeing agriculture change to meet some of their groups, of course, would be very supportive. So it's been all over the world. Well, here's a question. It's time to think about what impact this is a really broad question. I know. But in terms of legislation that has come out of Washington, what do you think its impact has been on agriculture in the United States? Just in a broad sense? I mean, you mean all legislation or regulation since the 80s. Since the 80s. Yeah, that is. Well, you know, let let me try to answer that question, first of all, by saying that I think that our public policy with regard to agriculture, I think that that a lot of our policymakers have really genuinely tried to get the public policies that work for agriculture and. And I think they're frustrated because I don't think anybody that has been a part of trying to craft some of this legislation is happy with what we've got. And if you if you look at the history of public policy, not only in the in the time frame that you've discussed, but even when you go back earlier, it's been it's primarily been a sort of a seesaw between, you know, get the government in and get the government out. And and so there hasn't been a lot of creative thinking about how do we rethink public policy in a way that, you know, I think what we have to do is we have to go back to what our social contract is with agriculture as a nation. And that social contract has changed from time to time. You know, our social contract in the Jeffersonian era was to put landholding farmers on the land to produce sufficient quantities of food and fibre and more importantly, to be the heart and soul of democracy. Because as Jefferson believed, that if you didn't have landed farmers, yeoman farmers on the land, you wouldn't have people who would be free to speak their minds. And that was critical to those to a vibrant democracy. In other words, if everybody was a laborer, for example, beholden to the person, not your intrinsic right, then, you know, they would always have to be careful about what they said. So they didn't offend the person that was paying the paycheck or the same way in terms of, you know, a government that was so powerful that people had to be afraid. But if you had people out there across the countryside that were self-employed and not beholden to any particular kind of political ideology, well, then you could have a language literacy. So that was the social contract that in the industrial era, the social contract changed and the new contract was to produce as much food and fibre as possible with as little labor as possible so that we could free people to become engaged in the professional and industrial arts to improve our quality of life. So that was a new contract. And we're still trying to operate under that contract. And it's no longer valid because, you know, things have changed. I mean, we we certainly no longer need to reduce the labour on farms and we certainly are producing adequate quantities of food and fibre fact. You know, one of the problems right now from the economic point of view for farmers is that we're overproducing and we don't have a new contract to put in its place. So getting back to public policy now, so, you know, increasingly non-farm taxpayers are saying, what the hell am I getting out of this? You know, I'm spending twenty eight, 30 billion dollars of we're spending 20 to 30 billion dollars of our tax revenues each year. And I'm not getting anything out of this. And essentially, they're correct. You know, farmers like to claim that, well, what what the non farmers are getting is cheap food. But that's really not true because the cost of food is not in the raw materials anymore. So, you know, farmers in Iowa could give their corn away and it wouldn't reduce the price of a box of corn flakes by more than five cents because that's all what's in it. So we have to ask ourselves, I think as a society, you know, what kind of new social contract do we want with agriculture? And I think that there are there are some new contracts that we're in need of. Clearly, we need to pay attention, more attention to our natural resources. And, you know, when the when the water going down to the Moon River gets so polluted that the city of Des Moines has to spend several billion dollars for port treatment plants to clean up their water to drink it, you know, that's a that's a real cost. And that cost is related to agriculture. So how can we create a new social contract in which together as citizens we say, here is what? Here's what we'd like our farmers to provide and produce. And in exchange for that, here's what we'll give them to do that we haven't hammered out yet. I think until we do that and I don't mean by this to say that it has to be a totally an environmental social contract. I think there are other things that need to be a part of that. The problem is, without that kind of a social contract, what we're doing is, is blaming the farmer and a lot of ways the farmers a victim in this. And because they don't have any choice given given the given the social contract they're operating under, they don't have any choice but to produce as much as possible. You know, that's the only that's the only avenue they've been given. And in Iowa, to produce as much as possible means you've got to use a lot of nitrogen. And that means you're going to continue to build. The ground. So we need. I think it will happen. I think it has to have. It has to have ways, you know, if we get another few more stories in than one register like we had earlier this week or last week, you know, I think this week, you know, which pointed out that, you know, first of all, the vast majority of the benefits are going to the biggest farmers, men, and then especially, you know, that all the non farmers are getting these benefits, including some of the congressmen who voted for the legislation and including Ted Turner. And, you know, I mean, you know, the public is going to say, whoa, and that's something out of balance and we're not getting anything out of this. This is just a giveaway. So it's so so, you know, we just we just desperately need to to rethink public. I think there's some things on the horizon that can work, but we're probably not going to have much chance of getting implemented until we develop a new social contract. You know, Hakin, Social Security, I mean, Harkin's Conservation Security Act, I think makes all kinds of sense politically how much chance it has of getting passed without the use social contract. This is difficult to determine at this point. We have here on the campus of Mike Duffy and Paul Lasley have put together a an idea which they've something called a minimum wage for farmers. And it makes all kinds of sense because, you know, instead of making payments to Ted Turner, what you would be doing then, as you would be saying, you know, we need to provide a basic level of support to farmers. The way we do to other Americans and everybody else is on a minimum wage. Why should farmers and it's a pretty simple way to administer it. And it would also provide an entry point for beginning farmers, which we have to desperately look at because we have three times as many farmers over age 65 as under age 35. And there's no there's nothing on the horizon that indicates that that's going to get anything but worse. So we don't we have to start asking ourselves what next generation farm, which is why another thing and that's the thing that struck me in moving to Iowa, is that, I mean, you drive up through northern Iowa and see a lot more hogs. You see a lot more corporate take over the land, and you really wonder where the family farm is going to be because it's not a decent investment anymore financially. Yeah, well, the thing you have to look at in that is that if you look at the 1997 statistics and look at Willard Cochran has organized those into three groups, the farms, and he has demonstrated that we now have as of nineteen ninety seven, we have approximately one hundred and sixty three thousand farms left in this country, which he categorizes as the very large family farms and proprietorships, etc. They capture 61 percent of the total farm sales, just one hundred sixty three thousand farms. And he points out that 63 percent of those farms are already linked by contract to some major consolidated processing company, which means that the processing company determines the management on the farm because they want the contract to get those products coming in, those commodities coming in in a certain kind of way. And so they depend on that. That's right. And that meets their business interests. So Michael Bolshy likes to call it biological manufacturing, but they're really manufacturing now a commodity rather than, you know, taking care of a farm. At the other end of the scale are the very small farms, the retirement farms, a couple of other categories thrown into that. And there we have one point three million farms, but they only capture nine percent of the sales. Now, the group that's interesting is the group in between, which are the mid-sized farms. And there we have five hundred seventy five thousand farms and they capture 30 percent of the sales. Now, the reason that group is the interesting one is because exactly what you said, those farms increasingly are not going to be big enough to get contracts into consolidated food and agriculture system because one of the other business objectives of the consolidated food and agriculture system is to reduce transaction costs. And it's simply simpler and easier to control the quality of product. If you only you know, if you buy one hundred thousand hogs from one farmer with one management system, as opposed to buying it from 10 farmers who have 10 management systems. So so increasingly, those farmers will not get access to markets. They'll be residual suppliers, which means they'll be able to sell their product if there's a need for it and if they want it, there isn't. Those farms also are going to be too big to do what increasingly the small farmers are doing, and that is getting into direct markets and those kinds of relationships where they can and. The value of their production, because they're too big and too commodified. So the question we and interestingly for Iowa. Eighty seven percent of the farms in Iowa, that middle group. So for Iowa, we have to start asking ourselves, you know, is it in the best interests of Iowa as a state to retain that middle category of farmers? Or do we want to go into a bifurcated food system in which we have some direct marketing over here and everybody else is linked up by contract? And then what you're seeing in northern Iowa is going to be, you know, all over the state, only in spades. Now, maybe we'll want to go in that direction, but we haven't had that debate. I don't think people even understand. I mean, certainly on the one hand, I can see financial security is a major component of going that way. I would think. Well, it's short term. I think I think if you think in terms of long term financial security and we have to ask ourselves to where is this going to go? You know you know, everybody sort of says this is a natural shakeout and eventually this will all, you know, sort of find its equilibrium. But, you know, robots set that back in the 1970s. So, you know, we have to start asking ourselves, you know, where will this where will this end? And Stephen Blank, for all the things I think he got wrong in his book, The End of Agriculture in the American Portfolio still raises the prospect of something that we have to take seriously. And he is saying that given the lower land and labor costs in other parts of the world, the United States should just get out of the farming business altogether. And if you think about that purely in an economic market terms, you know, it makes sense. You know, why wouldn't a multinational corporation go to Brazil to get its soybeans rather than the United States, particularly as once they get their infrastructure in place? Because given the land, the labor costs there, you know, cheaper farmers are going to be able to probably produce soybeans at, you know, three and a half, three. Seventy five Iowa farmers can't do that on three thousand dollars an acre land. So we have to start asking ourselves again, you know, what what kind of contract we want with agriculture. And if we want to empty the countryside and bought up our rural communities or conversely, bring in industries primarily driven by cheap labor. And just, you know, Jedediah Purdy, who often writes for The New York Times and other magazines, he sees a future if we continue going where we're going in which the rural countryside is going to be occupied by two classes of activity and one is huge industrial complexes and the other is an idle playground for the rich. You know, do we want that which you can see just in Wyoming or just so you know, we have a choice here. You know, we can sure we can say that's going to be OK. And if that's what we want to say as a country, you know, we need to say that. And then farmers know that, you know what? The future they've got to look forward to is get out of the business and they can do that. But obviously, that's not the preferred. I mean that. Well, I would I would I would I would think that this would not be good for the country. I think it's much better for the country to have small, thriving rural communities because those communities provide us with a lot of public good in addition to food. You know, everybody agrees that much of the moral character of our country comes out of rural communities. Certainly part of our work ethic comes out of our rural communities. So, you know, there's a lot of public good that we all benefit from. And so we have. But we have to start asking ourselves, you know, whether whether we want to preserve that or not. One, increasingly urban society is becoming so divorced now from which I would think would be a major component of what's going to happen in the future, is that the urban folks have to be educated about what happens on a farm here. And but but we but I think that we can't just say to the urban people, look, you guys got to get educated. I think what we have to do is we have to start saying there's some things happening in this country. They're going to affect all of us in agriculture as a part of what's happening. So let's start having some conversations about that. And because they have to see, you know, it's not enough to to, you know, take little chickens into the classroom in Des Moines, as somebody did last year, and have the kids get all excited because the first time they ever saw a little chicken. I mean, that's probably important, too. But, you know, there are these more fundamental issues that are going to affect our common quality of life that we need to start having conversations about. And, you know, it's one of the things that we want to start doing through the liberal center. I mean, we we think that we need to do three things as we move into the future. We need to, first of all, explore the possibility of developing new markets. Because there is in the in this in this middle group that I mentioned, the farmers there really in many ways in the best position to take advantage of the new markets that are evolving now. And, you know, I can give you some examples if you want. I can take with you. But there was a story in in a British newspaper, just as I was on the 2nd of September. The title of the article was, You've seen the cow, now eat the Meat. And it's a wonderful story about a new value chain that they've created in Great Britain in linking together a group of farmers, some of them organic, some of them, but all of them who raised their animals in ways that the consumers can connect with. You know, they're out in the open pastures. They're not confined in the feedlots. And so they've pulled together this group of farmers, connected them to a processor. So they retain the identity of that product and then connected that to a group of retail stores who have specifically branded product for the meat coming out of these people know what that means, right? But here's the important part. They use an access code on the label and in their advertising so you can pick up a copy of the newspaper in your home. You see the ad and you see the access code and you can go into the into the interior computer and you can get the medical history of every cow. You can get the picture of the farmer and the picture of the landscape of the farm where the cows are being raised. And you can say in your order, I would like a five pound roast from cow number six, which has this medical history. And and the the order will end up at your doorstep. And you know what you're getting? You know exactly what you're getting. In other words, the whole issue here is food is increasingly being sold with a food story and the story is as important as the product. And that's a real opportunity now that the consolidated food industry is going to have a hell of a difficult time accessing those kinds of markets. The first place the in the first place, the trust level is not going to be there in the second place. They have geared their whole profit making system to mass production as quickly as possible on a on a on a scale in which their margins are determined by scale. So to try to access these special be able to do it very, very difficult is going to be extremely expensive to do. It's been extremely difficult. The competitive advantage clearly goes. And the same thing is true of the you know, how is somebody who's invested several million dollars in putting up a huge confinement hog operation to produce hundred thousand hogs a year? You know, they it's going to be very difficult for them to start segregating, you know, hogs of a particular kind for a particular kind of story. But these mid-sized farmers are in a perfect position to do that because they still have flexibility and they can then be connected. And we do know that this will work in Iowa because some of these value chains are already ranch ranchers. A perfect example of one of these kinds of value chains. And I think increasingly with genetic things that they're going to see, people are much want to be more connected to what they eat. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you know, also I mean, we should not delude ourselves into I mean, it's very clear that consumers very often want their food fast, convenient and cheap. You know, they're in a rush and they want to grab something off the shelf and get on with it or eat it on the way or whatever. But also, increasingly, consumers have times when they want to indulge themselves and they want to have a more sensuous experience and something that's fulfilling. And then they want to have access to this other thing to pay for and they're willing to pay for it. Exactly. So what we need to do, it seems to me, is to create these markets so that farmers have access to those markets and that they can capture part of the value. And I think since they're an integral part to the part of the story, they're in a much better position to capture that value than if they are. They're trying to be the lowest cost supplier of producing, you know, mass-producing producing. So so that's one thing that we need to develop with. The second thing is that we need to explore alternative production systems that are not as heavily dependent on purchased inputs because it's the purchased inputs that's killing the farmers. And by that, I don't mean necessarily crop inputs. I mean the total the total total input cost. Mike Duffy at the centre here has just completed a study in which he looked at Iowa farms from 1950 to 1998 and he calculated their gross income, their total expenses and their net income in that period of time. And if you want, I'll give you a chart. It's very revealing because during that period of time, farmers succeeded in increasing their gross income 13 fold. But their total expenses also increased 13, so and so, their net income remained flat. So what's happening is that farmers are very successful in increasing their productivity, but it's at a cost which eats up all of the income produced by that productivity. And, you know, as a farmer, I can tell you if your net income remains flat, you're going out of business because you have depreciation costs and other things that you've got to deal with. So that's what's happening to farmers in Iowa. So we have to find ways that farmers can maintain their productivity and by productivity, meaning now not necessarily producing more stuff, but producing more income. And there's two ways to do that. One is to capturing more value in a higher value product. The other is to reduce the input costs. And so that's the second thing we got to work at. Unfortunately, we live in a culture in which we've come to believe that the only way to increase productivity is to invent new technology, which, of course costs farmers money. If we could start looking at and doing, you know, my my dream is that we get to a point where we devote 25 to 30 percent of our public research dollars in agriculture to looking at every ecosystem services in nature as a way of increasing productivity rather than purchased inputs. And there are examples all over the world where that's being done. And then very successfully, we're doing precious little of it in the industrial world. The third thing is what we started out talking about, that we need to do what we need to look at our public policies, because even if you create these new markets and these new production systems, if you don't have public policies that supports moving in that direction, it's still going to be pushing water. And so we want to do some research in some alternative policy directions that for policymakers to consider. And then we want to try to do all of this as much as possible within the context of real communities. You know, let's take a five or six county area and let's try to implement these new approaches. Let's get some new businesses going that capture more value, that create opportunities for young farmers and provide those farmers and that and that, at least at the local level, look at alternative policies that support those new ventures. So that's the direction we want to move on. I think with the new like the practical farmers of Iowa and all the new groups that are springing up, there would be a core. Yeah, yeah. It's not like we have to start from scratch. And the whole thing we're saying here is that we as a center are not going to do this. We want to serve as the catalyst, you know, to bring these various groups together and create partnerships to move these directions. Do you think and obviously Iowa State has always been dedicated to kind of traditional agriculture in a lot of ways. And how do you think that the Leopold Center fits within that? Well, it's right now the climate here at the university, I think is very good. The the dean of the College of Agriculture and the associate dean are very supportive of these directions. You know, where the meeting will be when he or she comes? You know, we don't know the for the legal center. You know, obviously, it's very important for us to to work with the university to have a good relationship with the university. But the way the Iowa state legislature created a political center, we're really not we're really not fully a part of the university. We are located at the university. Simmi Independent. That's right. We're semi-independent. I mean, clearly, we're we're linked to the university in many ways. President of the university appoints the director of the center. So there are a lot of ways in which we're accountable to and linked to the university. But the legislature also wanted the Leopold Center to have its own independence in terms of its program and its direction. I mean, we don't have to we don't have to get the approval of the university for our program directions or for the for the the research projects that we supported were, you know, that's that's really up to us and our advisory board. And I think it's always been sort of understood that the university sees the Leopold Center as a real benefit to the university in that it is given the authority and the freedom to do some things that are a little bit on the edge that the university being that may not be politically able to do right now or at any given point. And so I think it sees value in the liberal center in being able to push the envelope a little bit. And so, you know, it's it's in a way, it's centers like this are set up to have an uneasy relationship. And we all understand that that's that's the nature of what it's about. The important or more important thing, I think, is whether or not the Iowa state legislature continues to see the center as as being a benefit to Iowa and and that's what we need to be accountable to, responsible for. We need to demonstrate to taxpayers that they're getting their money's worth for the contribution they make to the center. And I think that if we move in these directions and and can begin to stimulate some new economies, et cetera, and provide better, you know, better approaches to agricultural production that, you know, if if if the water in Iowa gets cleaner, everybody benefits because it's less costly to drink clean water than it is to drink dirty water. And it's, you know, that has other ramifications, of course. OK, well, we'll go ahead and stop here. 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