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And she became so enthusiastic about it that she's using it for a study course she's presenting on Central America. We will have copies of it available tomorrow. At least Lisa Earle is bringing up them up from the Peace Resource Center in Des Moines. I'm not sure whether, she had thought she would be here tonight, but I don't see her. So they may not be here this evening, but if you want them, you certainly will be able to get them tomorrow. Bob Armstrong is a research associate and writer with the North American Congress on Latin America, or NACLA, as it's called. He has written extensively on the US foreign policy for Central America, for NACLA's magazine, \"A Report on the Americas,\" and for the \"Guardian\" newspaper. He is coauthor of the book, \"El Salvador: The Face of a Nation.\" Recently he has participated with some 30 scholars and foreign policy specialists to elaborate on the alternatives for US foreign policy in Central America and the Caribbean called Changing Course. The proposal has already the endorsement of George McGovern, Jesse Jackson, Ambassador Robert White, the head of The Conference of Women in Religion, and many other leaders. He is going to discuss this alternative with us tonight. And he has, I believe, some copies of it even to share. We will, I think, I don't know how soon we can, we'll go ahead as soon as the taping crew is ready, because we do want to be sure that this address is available for others who can't be with us tonight.\r\n\r\n- I think I can say that. Can I begin? Okay, good, good evening. I'm very happy to be here tonight. The subject of my talk is an alternative policy for the Caribbean and Central America. I wanna begin by examining briefly the Kissinger commission's report. I then want to offer an analysis of what I think are the root causes of the turmoil in Central America today. And then I wanna articulate, based on the work that I have been doing with other scholars and policy people, I wanna articulate what I think principles of a new foreign policy in Central America and the Caribbean might be and also what particular and immediate steps we might take which we might urge our Congress people, our presidential candidates, to offer as a solution to the particular crisis that we face in that part of the world. Tonight's talk is based on about a year of study that was undertaken by an organization called Policy Alternatives on the Caribbean and Central America. It's an organization that was formed, really as a consequence of conversations with people from Central America and from the Caribbean who were concerned that under the present administration, the course of US policy seemed to be inevitably heading toward regional war. And that they asked friends and associates here in the North American community to come together to meet with them, to talk with them, to meet with others who were pursuing similar kinds of activities in Europe, in Latin America, to try to come up with some kind of alternative that would make sense, that could be presented to the American people, that could serve as an organizing vehicle, that could try to begin to develop a poll within the debate on Central America and the Caribbean that would move that debate from the extreme right position in which it now is focused, as the consequence of the Reagan administration's policies, to something that more accurately reflected the possibility and the potential for dialogue between and among sovereign nations. Our report, which is called \"Changing Course,\" \"Changing Course: A Blueprint for Peace \"in Central America and the Caribbean,\" has just been released on Wednesday last. There was a party held in Washington celebrating the publication of the book. The publication has been described and written about in the \"Los Angeles Times,\" in the \"New York Times\" as well. We have, as was said in the introduction, received the endorsement of George McGovern, of Jesse Jackson, Robert White, former ambassador to El Salvador, Murat Williams, the former ambassador to El Salvador, William Winpisinger of the Machinist Union, of various leaders of the women's movement, leaders of LULAC, the Latin American organization, largest Latin American, North American Latin American organization in the United States. And we think it can serve as the beginning of a dialogue about where we might go. In reflecting about where we are and where we might go, it's important to think for a bit about the Kissinger commission and what its recommendations were. And I want to remind you of something that Henry Kissinger said to Gabriel Valdes, who was the foreign minister of Chile in June of 1969. In a private meeting that Kissinger had with Mr. Valdes, Mr. Kissinger said, \"You come here speaking of Latin America, \"but this is not important. \"Nothing important can come from the South. \"History has never been produced in the South. \"The axis of history starts in Moscow, \"goes to Bonn, crosses over to Washington, \"and then goes to Tokyo. \"What happens in the South is of no importance.\" When Kissinger speaks of the South, of course, he's speaking of all of the countries that are known as the Third World. And he echoes traditional notions of diplomacy and power politics. And yet at the same time, Mr. Kissinger reveals what seems to me as a tragic ignorance of what is probably the most important, the most important force in history today, and that is the force of nationalism. The force of liberation that is emerging throughout the Third World and the struggle in Central America, the struggle in El Salvador, in Nicaragua, in Honduras, in the Caribbean, this struggle is part of this historic process that began at the end of World War II, in the period of decolonization in Africa and Asia and in the Middle East and continues today as the impoverished majorities break from the colonial bonds, break from the neo-colonial bonds to try to find ways to create societies in which the needs of those majorities can and will be met. Now, it's my view that the Kissinger commission's approach to the problems of Central America really is nothing more than old ideas, the same ideas. And there's not a program, despite what they argue, that can lead to peace and lead to development in the region. Fundamentally, it's my view that the Kissinger commission report is really nothing more than a counterinsurgency program or a blueprint for a counterinsurgency program. The essence of the Kissinger commission report is the determination to continue to provide military support and military aid to the government of El Salvador, to the counter-revolutionary forces attacking Nicaragua from Honduras, its determination to restore military assistance to the government of Guatemala, its determination to advance the process of militarization in Costa Rica, and its recommendations to expand presence of the United States, the military presence of the United States' military bases in Honduras. At the same time, it proposes a program of aid of some $8 billion, ostensibly to deal with the problem of poverty. And in some sense, one can say that the Kissinger commission is an advance over at least what the Reagan administration has been declaring to be the causes of the situation in Central America. It is advanced in the sense that it recognize that in some way poverty is part of why there's a problem in this part of the world. But the way in which the aid that is proposed is to be administered, the notions that underlie that, I think, the kind of contempt that is expressed in Mr. Kissinger's remarks to the foreign minister of Chile make that program very unlikely to be able to meet the needs of modern Central America, present-day Central America. And ultimately I fear that it will, that economic assistance in the context of the military aid that is going to be continued in Central America, that that economic aid becomes nothing more than part of and a tool of war. It is interesting to note what some Central Americans have been saying about the Kissinger commission report, and particularly, speaking about the economic section. Firstly, I have noted in the proposals for the creation of a new institution, a regional administration of assistance, the determination of the United States to exert even more control over their lives, more control over their political lives, more control over their economic lives, more control over their cultural lives. It's interesting to note that the recommendations of the Kissinger commission for a dramatic increase in the number of Peace Corps volunteers to be sent there to teach literacy, that to many Central Americans, they ask why is it that we cannot, why is it that the United States cannot provide funds to employ the many unemployed teachers in Central America so that they themselves can teach their people literacy? And when the Kissinger commission talks about establishing universities, or establishing scholarships, rather, so that Central Americans might be able to come to the United States to study in American universities, many Central Americans ask why is it that there are no programs in the commission's report that would reopen universities in Central America, for example, the University of El Salvador, which has been closed since June of 1981, whose facilities have been ransacked by the military, whose library has been destroyed? Why is it that the Kissinger commission, instead of supporting these institutions that speak to, that grow out of the needs of the people of Central America that instead the Kissinger commission recommends that more and more students come to the United States to study. And I think what, in essence, they're saying is that the Kissinger commission does not speak to the process that is going on in Central America, does not speak to the determination of the people of Central America to develop their own nations, to develop their own sense of identity, to develop their own institutions, to develop a sense of national sovereignty, to exercise their right to self-determination. Now, the recognition that the Kissinger commission shows to the question of poverty is, I think, it's an important advance, as I said, but we should not be confused about it. Yes, poverty is the root cause, but why does poverty exist? And poverty exists in Central America because the appropriation of the wealth of the societies of Central America historically has been concentrated in the hands of a tiny number of people. And that's true of the oligarchy in Guatemala, the oligarchy in El Salvador. That was true of the Samoza family in Nicaragua. That was true of the United Fruit Company and Del Monte and the American corporations in Honduras. And the institutions that were created by that tiny handful of people and corporations that have run Central America, that those institutions were created to enhance the concentration of resources, to enhance the wealth of those very same people. And I'm talking about institutions like government, how a government is organized, what kinds of opportunities there are to participate, what means there are to participate. I'm talking about institutions like the Armed Forces, who is in the Armed Forces, how does one participate in the Armed Forces, what is the role that the Armed Forces plays in that society? I'm talking about institutions like the healthcare system. How is the healthcare system made available to people in that society? What access do people have to it? I'm talking the things like the educational system. Who is educated, who is not educated? Questions like the social service system or how housing is produced or how basic needs are met. These institutions, these structures in Central America have been organized to increase the power and wealth and domination of the few. These societies, these systems have systematically excluded the majority, and whether that meant or means the representation of the majority in government, their capacity to participate in elections, thwarted by repeated and continual fraud. It's expressed in the failure of the healthcare system to meet the needs of the majority of the people in El Salvador. In the late 1970s, some 75% of the children under five were malnourished. That particular country enjoyed and, it's not really the word, but had the lowest per capita calorie consumption rate in the Western hemisphere. The failure of the systems to include the majority is expressed in the rate of illiteracy in these countries. And the rate of illiteracy in El Salvador is slightly less than 50%. In Guatemala, some 55%. In Honduras, somewhere between 45 and 50%. The failure to include the majority also is expressed in the fact that people live in the cities of San Salvador. So many of the people live in tarp shacks, crowded together in communities without water, without electricity. When I lived in El Salvador in the late 1970s, I was a member of the Peace Corps there, I lived in what was known as a tugurio community. This is a community that had none of these amenities or what we would understand to be basic rights where people lived concentrated in houses, some made of mud, some made of cardboard, struggling to survive. The important reality about Central America is that the majority have not participated in creating the institutions and not participated in the institutions that existed. And because the exploitation of that majority has been so great, it has been necessary for the, it was necessary to create powerful armies, brutal police forces, to keep the population from trying to change, trying to get control of their lives, trying to change this situation. And the continual repression has meant police with automatic rifles sitting on their motorcycles throughout the streets of the capitals of Central America. It's meant attacks on trade unions whenever attempts were made by workers in the factories to organize themselves, to seek higher wages. It's meant the disappearance, at times the murder of trade union leaders, of community leaders, of political leaders. In all of this, for the last 85 years, the United States has essentially accepted this system as the natural order of things and has supported it with guns and training of the military and the police forces with aid and assistance in the form of economic investment, often in joint partnership with these same oligarchies, these same minorities which dominate these societies, and then occasionally with gestures toward reform, when policymakers worried about the consequences of what was the transparent injustice of life in Central America. Now, in the 1970s, some very important and quite extraordinary changes came to pass in Central America. How it happened is very difficult to understand. I've been studying it, now, I've been actively working on the question of Central Americans since 1977. And I think it's one of the most interesting phenomenon I've ever seen. How was it that suddenly a people who had accepted, who had accepted the poverty, accepted their disenfranchisement from all of the important decisions, of the decision-making processes of the society, why suddenly they decided , that's enough already? We must change. And I think, in part, one can see it is as another of the many struggles that have gone on throughout the Third World and the post-war period, the awakening of people, awakening of a spirit of nationalism, an awakening of a desire to take control of their lives, to try to shape societies that met majority needs. I think it's important to understand that, and here I obviously depart dramatically from the Reagan administration and from the Kissinger commission, that what is going on in Central America, in my view, is fundamentally an experience of nationalist revolution. In fact, what's been going on in the Third World since 1945 is exactly that, a profound movement of revolutionary nationalism, a new chapter in the history of nationalism, a very different chapter, but something I think we can understand if we reflect upon the phenomenon of the rise of nationalism in Europe in the 16th and 17th and 18th and 19th centuries. This is a new era of nationalism and is a phenomenon of revolutionary nationalism and nationalist revolutionary-ism, is probably the most important event of the last 50 years of the 20th century. Looking at Central America, we see there the movements of intellectuals and politicians and workers and peasants and leaders seeking expression, seeking symbols to express what they desire, taking as a symbol, Augusto Cesar Sandino, Sandino, the man who led a rebellion against US occupation of Nicaragua in the late 1920s, who organized poor farmers and poor peasants in the North and maintained a guerrilla war for some four years against the United States, seeking to free his country from the domination of the United States, a domination that had been maintained through military occupation since 1914, with one small break in 1925. Or taking as a symbol of the aspirations of the figure of Farabundo Marti, a Salvadorian labor organizer, a man who had shared in the struggles for the rights of workers and peasants in Mexico, in Guatemala, and in El Salvador, figures that are appropriate and unique to Central America and their history, its history. Now, this movement of revolutionary nationalism really seeks, in my view, the empowerment of the majority. And those who are participating in it are influenced by ideas of democracy, democracy in societies where that word is empty and without meaning. There are those also who were influenced by Marxism, who understand that Marxism means it speaks to them about the concentration of the wealth and power in the hands of the few and of the justice that is owed to many. And there are those who are influenced by Christianity, and particularly, the notions of liberation that have risen from Latin American Christianity, who see, in Christian doctrine, a liberating message and a particular commitment and duty that a Christian owes to the poor. And what is going on in Central America is a nationalist movement composed of those elements. Now, of course, the Kissinger commission and the Reagan administration might argue that we could live with revolutions. In fact, the Kissinger commission report says exactly that, but for one thing, that these revolutions ultimately reflect the Cuban and Soviet threat. And as a consequence of that Cuban and Soviet threat, we cannot allow these processes to continue. So tonight, what I wanna talk about primarily is what the Soviet and Cuban threat is about. And is it real, or is it not real? And first, I wanna talk a little bit about Cuba. It's important to understand that people in the United States have a very different perception about Cuba and many people in Latin America, not everyone in Latin America, but many people in Latin America. The history of our relations with Central America, with the Caribbean, with all of Latin America is a history that is sad, tragic, an embarrassment to anyone who cherishes any of the ideals and the notions that are particularly contained in documents like the Declaration of Independence. And I think all of you in the room understand that. Cuba represents something very special, however, in that history. It represents one of the nations of that world, subject for the last 80 years to that terrible presence of the United States. \"Poor Latin America,\" someone said, \"so far from God, \"so close to the United States.\" Cuba has represented the defiance, the defiance of that giant. Cuba has represented, despite the failings of some of Cuban society, has represented a serious commitment to the empowerment of the majority. And although in Central America, none of those who are participating in this movement of revolutionary nationalism seek to imitate Cuba or the Cuban model per se because precisely as the word suggests this is a movement of nationalism and of nationalisms. And so what is sought is a new Nicaragua and a new El Salvador, a new Guatemala, a new Honduras, new nations. But Cuba does represent a serious effort on the part of Latin American sisters and brothers to try to change the society in which they lived, and as a consequence of their attempts to try to change that, the necessity to defy the United States. And it does represent some kind of inspiration. And in some sense, we can't escape that. Sound US policy, it seems to me, should recognize that fact. And instead of trying to, instead of continuing the pressure on Cuba, only result within this kind of paradigm is only to make Cuba appear more heroic. It might be wiser for us to relieve some of that pressure and try to establish relations with Cuba that would restore it to its rightful place among the nations of the hemisphere. But Cuba does not, in and of itself, pose a threat to the United States. Cuba is a country of some nine million, 10 million people. Nicaragua by itself does not pose a threat to the United States. Nicaragua is a country of some two million people. The El Salvador, should there be a triumph of the insurgent forces there, is a country of 4 1/2 million people. And even putting all of these peoples together, the numbers of peoples who might be opposed to the United States and might pose some kind of direct military threat to us would be minuscule compared to the population of the United States and inconsequential when you're trying to compare the industrial and military might of the United States against those countries. The threat, it seems to me, ultimately is a threat of the Soviet Union and the presence of the Soviet Union in Cuba, this presence in the form of military, of direct military presence, the presence of the Soviet Union in Nicaragua, in El Salvador. And the geographic proximity is, of course, the issue, because these are, in a very real sense, the backyard, as odious is that notion is to those who live in the backyard. I mean, the backyard is where you put all the junk cars and the chickens run around. This is fundamental to understand that and how offensive President Reagan is when he talks about Central America being part of the backyard or the Caribbean being a part of the backyard. It's noteworthy that in some recent rhetoric now that we're talking about Central America as the front yard. The question of, the issue is, I think, not front yard, backyard. It's one lot, two lots, and trying to live together as neighbors. Geographic proximity, however, is the issue. And here I want to just talk for a minute, let us suppose that the Soviet Union were to establish some kind of military base in the hemisphere. The threats that are generally talked about are threats to the sea lanes, threat to the Panama Canal, threat to oil reserves. Well, first, with regard to the sea lanes, international law that leaves access to the sea is open in times of peace. And so the Soviet Union could come and go as it chose. The United States cannot prevent the Soviet Union from sailing in the Caribbean. But the more important question is, when this issue is discussed, well, what if the Soviet Union attacked the sea lanes? What if the Soviet Union blocked the ships, sank some ships? Well, quite obviously that would be an act of war. Now, that war, if the capacity to sink those ships, that act of war, if it had come from Nicaragua, from El Salvador, that act of war would be met with retaliation, as acts of war are. And Nicaragua and El Salvador or Guatemala or wherever it might be is no match militarily for the United States. Within hours, whatever kind of a military installation that might've been there, that might've been the consequence, that might have caused that act of war, would be eliminated, would be wiped out, and probably most of the rest of the country as well. Let's suppose that missiles were put in some country. But I think that this is a, there's one argument that suggests even if there were missiles, nuclear missiles placed in Nicaragua, something that the Nicaraguans are not suggesting, something that Soviets are not suggesting, but let's just assume that they were put there. In the modern era, with nuclear missiles loaded on submarines, trolling through the seas with nuclear missiles poised, aimed at us, we aiming our missiles at them, the amount of time that is gained for firing a missile from Nicaragua to Ames, Iowa is not a significant difference in the strange logic of nuclear confrontation. And it is a strange logic. Whether a missile gets here in 10 minutes or it gets here in eight minutes, does this really matter? But the important thing to understand with regard to this is that the Nicaraguans presently, the Cubans are not saying we're going to have missiles on our soil. They understand the fundamental reality of the whole hemisphere is that they are small countries, and the United States is powerful, a powerful country, the most powerful country in the hemisphere, the most powerful country in the world. And Nicaragua has not suggested that they're going to put missiles in their country. Cuba has not suggested that they're putting missiles in this country. And neither has the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union has not indicated that it is interested in having a relationship with Nicaragua, of assuming responsibility for its economy in exchange for some kind of a military base there. What is evident to people in Europe, to people in Latin America, is that what is happening in Central America today is going to happen without the participation of the Soviet Union in any military sense, in any sense that would threaten the national security of the United States. But what about destabilizing friendly regimes? Well, that could be a threat, but should that threat be exercised through an invasion, for example, suppose Nicaragua were to invade Honduras, something that they've not done, despite the fact that they have been attacked from Honduras by the Contra, supported by the Honduran army, should that happen, present treaties, the Rio treaty, provides for the mutual defense of Honduras. And at that moment, all of the signatories to that treaty would be obliged to come to the defense of Honduras. That's the existing treaty law. And that is what the reality of what an invasion would mean. But an invasion is not a realistic prospect. I think what is more worrisome to people in Washington is that the example will destabilize friendly regime, other regimes and friendly regimes. But in part, that's a function of how the United States reacts to the regimes that come to power, and Nicaragua is the case in point. Nicaragua, the revolution came, the power became victorious in 1979. At that time, the devastation was total. Samoza had stolen virtually all of the money from the national treasury. Here was an opportunity to try to redress the some 50 years of policy toward Nicaragua, policy which had lent the continual support of the Samoza family. Prior to that, the some 15 years of military occupation and to some extent the Carter administration had tried to do that. One must give them credit. But others refused to recognize this process because of the same kind of logic that we still see in the Kissinger commission, Soviet and Cuban threat, our national security is at stake. These are communists, and in the most elementary sense, the example of a Cuban revolution in Nicaragua perhaps would not be destabilizing if the United States could find some way to live with, understand, share in the reconstruction and rebuilding of a new Nicaragua. Well, I think the fundamental problem with this notion of destabilizing friendly regimes through example lies in the fallacy that somehow revolutions are exported. Last night, I had the pleasure and opportunity to hear Michael Manley, the former ambassador to Jamaica. And Manley, in response to a question precisely on this point said, \"You cannot export revolutions. \"Every morning in El Salvador, \"whose young women and young men who wake up, \"who are part of the FMLN, FDR, \"they know that there's a possibility \"that they, before that day will end, will die.\" And he observed, I share his observation, you cannot make people live life that way, waking up in the morning and knowing that you will die or you may die by the afternoon. You can't make people do that. People do that because of something that they feel that grows out of their own experience and their own lives. I think a new policy for Central America and the Caribbean must be based on some fundamental premises. The first and the most obvious notion is that the United States is a powerful country. The United States is the most powerful country in the hemisphere. The United States exercises extraordinary influence in the hemisphere, has and will. The United States has nothing to fear in the hemisphere. The United States should cease to fear and cease to be fearful about what goes on in the hemisphere. And the second premise should be that its credibility cannot be damaged by the victory of the revolutionary forces coming to power of revolutionary nationalism will not damage our credibility, why? Well, let's look at how our credibility stands in the world today. European allies condemned the invasion of Grenada. European allies fret over our policy in Central America. Allies in the hemisphere, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, Colombia, so worried about the clear intent of the United States to pursue a military solution in Central America, have come together to try to work out some kind of diplomatic resolution to the conflict of Central America. They have been joined by other nations like Brazil, like Canada, all of them urging a negotiated end to the crisis in Central America. So it is not the credibility, it's not our credibility with those nations that's at the stake. And perhaps, although perhaps it may be in places like Manila with the Marcos regime, or perhaps in Riyadh with the Saudi dynasty. But it seems to me that the time has come that there'd be a new policy in this country that sends a message to the governments of the world that tells them that there is no legal or moral obligation that requires us to defend a government against its own people. A true concern for US credibility at this moment, it seems to me, counsels us to use prudence instead of in the use of our military efforts and our military force. What I'm about to say, I guess, is, I'm from the Midwest, I'm from Michigan, and I've lived in the New York area for a long time. There is a difference how a group of people who were born and raised in the Midwest, I have to say, and people who live on the East Coast. One of the real differences is, I think, some sense of, there's a different notion of, a different kind of pride, I think, that one feels having been born and raised in the Midwest about what this country is. And what I want to try to articulate today is some of the principles that I think, that I understood when I was growing up, this country to be about. This is a great nation. But in a very real sense, this is a great nation which has lost its way. And it is necessary to reaffirm some very fundamental principles that we know our history speaks to us of. Although regrettably, in our relations with Central America, those principles rarely have come into play. And these principles, which are principles, I think, of a new policy in Central America and the Caribbean are, one, the principle of non-intervention. And this is not isolationism. This is a principle of respecting the national sovereignty of our neighbors based on some notion of the equality of sovereign states. The principle of non-intervention speaks to the necessity of a great power and a great nation to use self-restraint, to use self-restraint over its enormous resources, the enormous resources that it can bring to bear. It seems to me a second principle is a principle of self-determination. There is no more eloquent statement of the principle of self-determination than that which is contained in the Declaration of Independence. It has been the document from which the notion of self-determination has inspired revolutions throughout the Third World. It is a principle which we have forgotten. We can, because we are powerful, because we are strong, we can be open to divergent economic and political experiences of the nations of the hemisphere and our immediate neighbors in the Caribbean and Central America. And we can learn. The book is not closed. It has not been written and the end signed on how best to feed and clothe the majority of the peoples of the world, how best to realize democracy. A third principle, it seems to me, is the principle of collective self-defense. It's a commitment to multi-lateralism, of respecting our neighbors, of joining together with them in seeking a solution to our problems of defense, respecting initiatives like the Contadora initiative, truly respecting them. A fourth principle, a commitment to the peaceful settlement of disputes, that a great nation has the capacity to settle disputes through diplomacy and mediation and that we can speak as a nation then to another principle, the encouragement of human rights and of democracy, which includes the tolerance for new forums, but at the same time recognizes that democracy may be in a particular situation more than elections. Although elections are an important part of democracy, and that elections perhaps do not make democracies, that the notion of democracy is a broader notion than that. People's power. It's a phrase that one hears occasionally chanted in Central America . It's an interesting word because those two words, power and people, are the basis of the word democracy, power and the people. And what democracy is about is power to the people. We can work toward a principle in our foreign policy that creates legitimacy among us. There are many of you, I know, out there who have, for years and years, been struggling to try to find a foreign policy, to try to encourage the establishment of a domestic policy which will make you feel comfortable with, proud to be a citizen of this country. And in our efforts to aid and assist and cooperate with these nations, we should support notions of equity and development, that our aid programs are fair, that they're not used to blackmail people into supporting us, that our aid programs respond to the needs of nations as they identify those needs. And we support countries which offer credible development plans that are offered to try to overcome the differences, the terrible differences between those who have and those who have not. 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And a program for peace in Central America would include, I think, the following elements. And this is what we've talked about in the document \"Changing Course.\" First, that the United States abide by treaties, and US laws against intervention. That is to say, its own treaties and its own laws. That in Nicaragua it cease backing the counter-revolutionary forces based in Honduras and Costa Rica and support the contadora efforts, the efforts of Panama and Colombia and Venezuela and Mexico, to normalize relations between Nicaragua and its neighbors. In El Salvador, to cut off the military aid to El Salvador, and support efforts for a negotiated settlement involving the establishment of some kind of government of broad participation, and in the process of the taking of power of that government, sharing the power between those forces who are now in conflict. That should they decide to do so, that they evolve and elaborate some kind of strategy for elections. In Honduras, we must dismantle the US bases in Honduras. We must withdraw the US troops and the warships and participate in development aid. Honduras has become an American fort. In Guatemala instead, as the Kissinger Commission suggests. Instead of restoring military assistance to Guatemala, we must denounce the government's repressive policies toward the indigenous peoples of Guatemala, the majority of the people in that country. We must maintain the cut-off of military assistance, and provide aid for Guatemalan refugees in Mexico who have fled from the violence there. And in Costa Rica, we must oppose the militarization, this is a country, since 1948, that has had no armed forces. The US policy under the Reagan administration has encouraged it to militarize, encouraged it to take on the responsibilities of an armed force, against many elements within Costa Rica's society who oppose it. And with regard to Cuba, we must begin a process to try to restore diplomatic and commercial relations. In matters of aid, US economic assistance must flow toward regional programs. Programs that are evolved from within the nations themselves. And toward governments that are trying to narrow the differences between the rich and the poor, between men and women, and between different races and ethnic groups, US trade should be liberalized, alongside support for limited commodity agreements. So that the prices of basic commodities that are produced in that area are not so subject to the market and that some kind of rational development plan can be maintained. Faced with the terrible debt problems of Central America, the United States should support efforts on the part of governments in that region to renegotiate the external debt. And if imports are liberalized, the United States government should establish programs to try to compensate and retrain US workers that might be hurt, as a consequence of that liberalized trade, and at the same time to guarantee basic rights to immigrant workers. These are critical times, particularly critical with regard to Central America and the Caribbean. Present course of the US policy is leading directly to war, to the regionalization of the war in El Salvador. And I think inevitably to the participation of the United States directly in that war. Election years are very critical times in the history of any country, and is particularly important this year. Central America is just one of hundreds of issues I know that many of you were working on. But it is I think an important issue and I think that there are things that can be done. It's a matter of accepting the responsibility of our power, learning to live with and use that power as a mature and wise nation. To try to set an example to the other great nations of the world, of what and how power should and can be used. It's finally, it seems to me, we must try to reaffirm some of those fundamental principles of, that I understood and I remembered what the United States was all about. Particularly a respect for national sovereignty and the right of the peoples and the nations of the world to self-determination. Thank you. Now the most interesting part, for the next half hour or so, we'll have the questions and answers. Yup.\r\n\r\n- Well, the Reagan administration certainly is to be much blamed for this. Then Congress, perhaps, they also share that. Since you are in that area in Washington, where, in light of the problems that Congress has almost refused to tackle, things such as the aid to El Salvador, the Contras in Honduras. In fact, just about two days ago, Schultz almost told Congress where to go, in that he said, we'll simply go around you. Yet, we see no outcry, we hear only a few whimpers, if you will, from members of Congress. Why is this?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think fundamentally it goes to the question of it's a very good historic problem in the post-war period. It's the question of anti-communism and the question of the fear of being blamed for having lost El Salvador. And the inability or the lack of courage of elected officials to break from that particular vision of the world. And the Reagan administration has made it very clear that should something happen in central America, should El Salvador, or the government of El Salvador collapse, and the insurgent forces should take power, that they would be blamed, that the Democrats, particularly, would be blamed for this. I think this is one of the reasons why it's important to look carefully at the question of the Soviet threat and what that means. Because if you accept the notion that the threat is an exaggerated threat, and if you accept the notion that there's a very different kind of process going on in central America, you might in fact begin to delay the basis or put in the elements for a new kind of dialogue that would help political people, politicians, to escape the particular confines of the anticommunist dilemma. And this is not something we have to look to politicians for, I mean, this is something that can only be done within communities, within the body politic itself. Because a new debate has got to be shaped, that is more cognizant with the nature of US power, more cognizant with the nature of the reality of the world in 1984, whether it's the movements of revolutionary nationalism in the third world, the renewed power of Europe and Japan, or the fact that the quality, the military quality, the power that the Soviet Union represents. These are not the premises upon which the Reagan administration is oriented in any of its policies, its premises are still the premises of the immediate post-war era when, essentially, the third world was a colonial world, where Europe was defeated, destroyed, literally. And the Soviet Union was a minor power struggling to recover from a devastating war. What we are arguing here is the shape of the debate has got to change in order to accommodate new realities.\r\n\r\n- From what I understand of Mr. Reagan, President Reagan's, stance is that, and I also have studied Marxism to some extent, that the Marxist ideology teaches that communism will never work unless it becomes worldwide. And therefore, what Reagan is saying is that these revolutions in central America all seem to be Marxist. So do you think that in central America the people that are the revolutionary, do you think that they are trying to make all central America become Marxist from the Panama to central America? Do you think that's true?\r\n\r\n- First, I don't think, the notion that I put forth with the notion of revolutionary nationalism, it's a over simplification to say that the revolutions in central America are Marxist. There's Marxist participation without a doubt in it. The element that is critical, however, in this is the notion of nationalism, and the notion of trying to create societies which express and the meet the needs of the peoples in those nations. Are there people, are there some Marxists in those revolutions who would argue that it was necessary to create a Marxist central America? Undoubtedly there are, but they're not just Marxists in those revolutions, there are people who are socialists, there are people who just call themselves just democrats, there are people who call themselves Christians. And the parameters of their debate, and the parameters of their desires are in fact to meet the needs of their populations. It seems to me that president Reagan operates off certain quite foreign notions, at least historically for, and at this point in our lives, notions of what Marxism is. We see that there are Marxisms and Marxisms and Marxisms, and there are Marxist states and Marxist states, and there are socialist states and socialist states. And despite the existence of many socialist states and many Marxist states, there is not one uniform block of socialist countries or one uniform block of Marxist states. Because what has in fact happened in the post-war period, particularly, is that what we've seen is the power of nationalism is stronger than the ideology, the internationalist ideology that Marxism spoke to particularly before the Russian revolution. And to some extent in the period immediately afterwards.\r\n\r\n- But I read an article in the intercontinental press in which the Nicaraguan socialist revolutionary group, which you are supporting, stated at its December 23rd conference, 1979, in Managua and I quote, \"The Nicaraguan section of the fourth Marxist International is struggling for a Federation of Marxist states in all of central America. Sooner or later, we have to destroy the bourgeoisie democracy.\"\r\n\r\n- The Fourth International is not part of the government of Nicaragua. The Fourth International represents, there are Marxisms and there are Marxisms, and there are socialisms and there are socialisms. And those of you who have studied the history of Marxism and the history of socialism in the modern world will know that in the mid 1920s, there was a split within the leadership of the Soviet Union, a split that one leader was Stalin, the other leader was Trotsky. And Trotsky continued to develop strategies of revolution. Thoughts about continued to have influence within the socialist movement based on his own notions. The Fourth International is the creation, is the organization of Trotskyist parties in the world. And none of the parties that participate in the government of Nicaragua are Trotskyist parties. There are Marxisms and Marxisms, there are socialisms and socialisms.\r\n\r\n- The president, in my opinion, has proven himself to be a dolt when it comes to foreign affairs. And it's true that Congress is not attending its responsibilities. But won't you comment on the parts that we all play in this, the bananas that we buy from Honduras, the taxes that we paid to fund all of this. Won't you please speak on the bourgeois middle class effect that all of us are having to upon the situation? It's not just our dolty president, it's not just our unattending Congress, it is us and we are partly responsible for this too.\r\n\r\n- I would put the responsibility, we're all responsible for the situation we're in. And we've got to find ways to articulate a vision of the future. We've got to find ways to organize ourselves to affect the future. It's not Reagan, it's nuclear policy. I mean, it's not Central America's nuclear policy. It's domestic policies, it's all kinds of things. And the crisis that, it seems to me, that this period poses for us is very much exclusively our own crisis. In my view, it's a crisis of democracy. Can we find within the system opportunities for the expression of other points of view, that challenge the existing point of view, that permit the organization of that challenge into effective political challenges? It's, there is no other way. There is no other way. I've been speaking around the country for the last, what, seven years. And in audiences like this, that's the only message I have. If you're not happy with the way things are only we can change this. only we can change this. And we have to use the institutions that we have. We have to find other modes of expression. If you're unhappy. I mean, if you're not, you're happy with the Reagan administration's policy. Fine. And then, but I'm not really talking to you. But if you're unhappy, I'm talking to you and it's up to us. Yes, ma'am.\r\n\r\n- President Reagan says that Cuba and Soviets are sending in all this ammunition and arms for El Salvador and everything, and it goes to Nicaragua, and that we have to be there to stop this. Now in all the time that we've been there, I have never seen or read anything about even one gun being found, there's no picture ever of what we captured when we stopped them and everything. Now, is it that they haven't been bringing them in, or is it that we're very ineffective and haven't even captured one of the guns?\r\n\r\n- That's a very interesting question. I have often puzzled about that myself, because the United States has placed in the corridor between Nicaragua and El Salvador the most modern radar equipment in the Gulf of Fonseca, which is not exactly a large body of water. There are destroyers and gunships that steam back and forth to prevent any kind of amphibian landing of arms. The Gulf of Fonseca, Nicaragua and El Salvador does not share a common border, and the only way, the only direct link is made across the Gulf of Fonseca. So I really am always puzzled by this, because it makes me wonder about modern technology. I mean, it seems to me modern technology is not doing its job if it can't identify where these guns are coming. On the other hand, I'm more and more inclined to believe what I've read in the newspapers and military correspondents like Drew Middleton who, upon visiting El Salvador, returned and said that most of the arms that the Salvadoran armed forces or rather the Salvadoran insurgents have are arms that have been taken from or bought from the Salvadoran army. This is an interesting phenomenon, because what this means is that, in fact, US tax dollars are providing arms both to the Salvadorian government and the Salvadoran insurgency. So, I guess since I haven't seen any really good incredible evidence to this point, I'm inclined to believe Drew Middleton and others who have been arguing that, well, not arguing, just presented what they perceived to be the facts about what the nature of the arms flow is. Yes, ma'am.\r\n\r\n- Would you care to comment on the effect of non-government groups going to Central America on short term observation or boarder type things that some of the churches are participating in sending in groups. Both in terms of what it means from the American viewpoint but also in terms of the people who have to host and provide and inform the visitors from the US.\r\n\r\n- One of the most interesting things, it seems to me, about Central America is because it is so close, so many more ordinary American citizens have gone down to see what's going on. And, and I think that that's one of the reasons why the opposition to what's going on, to the U S policy in Central America continues to grow. It's a very slow process, because 10 people go down, 10 more people, 20 people, but what repeatedly happens when the 10 and 20 and 15 and 30 people go down, is that they see what is happening in Nicaragua. They are appalled and shocked by what's happening by the policies of the United States toward that society, if they dare to go to El Salvador they often return incredulous of what US policy means in that country. And so I think that what all of these visits really mean is that I think that it is it's providing people with a much broader, deeper, more sophisticated understanding of the nature of foreign policy, of US foreign policy in the modern period, of Central America, what Central America is all about. And it's playing an essential role in permitting us to exercise our capacity as participants in a democratic society. Now, the second thing it seems to me that, with regarding the second point, it always, I was talking with friends who were were down in Nicaragua about about three or four weeks ago. And they were among these many people who are going down to pick coffee and cane, and cut cane and pick cotton through these brigades. And what one of them was saying was he was astounded about how much time that people would offer to them, to listen to them, to talk to them, how patient they were with the North Americans who were uncomfortable sleeping on the ground, whose hands were covered with blisters, who were just going through the normal problems of adjusting to a difficult work situation, to another culture. The patience with which they met those demands. They also commented on the generosity of people in providing accommodation, serving as hosts. And I think that all of what that means to why that's happening is that for the central Americans as well, it represents an expression of the fact that the problems that the Nicaraguans have, for example, are not problems that they have with the people of the United States, but that they are problems that they have with the government of the United States. And that, it seems to me, it reinforces what the Nicaraguans have said, what the Salvadoran insurgents say, what the Guatemalan insurgents say is we will, we must have good relations with the United States, for the very simple reason, as I said in my talk, this is the most powerful, the most dominant, the most influential country in the hemisphere. You cannot not have good relations with the United States. And through the kind of generosity, I think that this is an expression of the recognition that fundamentally a basis of rapport and harmony still exists and can exist again in the future. Yes, ma'am.\r\n\r\n- I have one question to ask. What is your explanation of the persecution of the indigenous people of Nicaragua by the Sandanistas? How do you explain that?\r\n\r\n- Nicaragua is a country that is made up of, it is a multi-ethnic country. It's made up of many different ethnic groups. And it's divided into two, in a certain sense. Little map of Nicaragua here. This will be very crude. This means nothing except . This is the Pacific ocean over here, this is the Atlantic ocean over here. Principally speaking, this part of, the Western part of Nicaragua is Spanish speaking, and was settled by Spanish conquistadors. The whole process of conquest that those who know the history of Central America will understand. This part of Nicaragua is of several different ethnic groups. In this area here is primarily a black Creole peoples who are English speaking. Part of a migration of black peoples from the islands, from the Caribbean islands. Up in this area, there are also Indian groups, indigenous peoples of the Miskito Indians, the Rama Indians, the Sumo Indians, I think they're called. In the 50 years of the dynasty of Somoza, these two halves of the country really had very little to do with one another. Somoza essentially left that part of Nicaragua alone. These countries, these peoples grew up essentially oriented, their cultures oriented primarily to meeting their own immediate needs. Some extent there was, in the Bluefields area here, there was some trade with, through the Atlantic. Part of why this see this existed was that between these two, this particular part of the area was, this wall here, though not a literal wall, was, in fact, an area that was not developed at all, and there was no way to go from this part of country to another, either than by boat, through a series of rivers, or by plane, there was no road. And so there grew up two, essentially, two different kinds of experiences, which is Nicaragua. And in this part of Nicaragua, in fact several different kinds of experiences. When the Sandanistas took power in 1979, it was was their determination to try to try to create one single Nicaragua. And that meant integration of the peoples of the Atlantic coast. Among the projects that have been undertaken by the Sandinista government is to build a road through here. There's been attempts to try to create, to try to integrate politically the structures of the society in the Atlantic coast area into the Western part of Nicaragua. This would have been, under any circumstance, an extremely difficult process, because we're talking about cultures that are very different, that have had very little contact, really any significant contact with one another over the course of the last hundred years. And that difficult process was, of course, made more complicated by the presence of, and the support of the somocistas, the former followers of Somoza, who based their camps here along the border in Honduras. Here as well. And were supported by the government of Honduras and the government of the United States. This meant that there were constant raids in this area. This means also that there was a constant agitation here, an agitation not unheard of in the history of US foreign policy. Many people will remember that there was the mountain people in Vietnam. The United States has developed as one of its strategies the exploitation of ethnic minorities, or the agitation of ethnic minorities to create tension with new governments that have come to power in this process of revolutionary nationalism. Needless to say that process was exacerbated, the process of immigration has been profoundly exacerbated by the presence of the war. Now, the Sandinistas, as they will tell you, made some terrible errors. One thing the Spanish peoples on the West coast did not understand even about their own revolution, even about their own culture, was to what an enormous extent it was racist with regard to the black Creole peoples of the Atlantic coast, and with regard to the Indian peoples and indigenous peoples of the Atlantic coast. And so their initial plans were approached with a great deal, with a certain amount of kind of a patronizing attitude that further, that did not help did not make things go smoothly. When the war began here in the border areas Sandinistas moved many of the Miskito people back away from the borders, because they were caught in the war. They were fearful that they would be killed. They were also fearful that they would participate in the counter-revolution. So they established these communities in this part of Nicaragua. But we're talking about indigenous peoples who have lived in this area for many, many, many, many, many, many years. And although they could move the peoples, although they could provide wonderful houses and extraordinary sanitary systems, all the rest of it. The graves of their ancestors were still along the Rio Coco, their whole relationship with that community was a very profound relationship. that spoke to a relationship to the land that could not be reproduced by moving them somewhere else. And so there was a necessity of, inevitably, resentment. It seems to me in a, and I think particularly of the priest Father Schleifer, I think his name was, who went with with some of the Miskito peoples in a trek to leave Nicaragua and commenting about what that situation and what in essence he said was that the situation was a tragic situation, because it exists not because the Sandinistas have evil intentions. It exists because of this historic relationship and the incapacity of the Sandinistas to evolve away, to try to relate to these peoples. A situation exacerbated by the war, and by the CIA's efforts to to shape the nature of the counter-revolution. It's not something, I think, that the Sandinistas brag about. It's something that is a very tragic situation. Many from the North American Indian community have gone to Nicaragua to examine this. Many have been sympathetic, others have been concerned. What uniformly I think has happened from the native American community in the United States, the response has been that there's something slightly hypocritical about the Reagan administration showing sudden concern for the native Americans in Nicaragua, when they don't show that same concern for native Americans in the United States, nor do they show that same concern for the native Americans in Guatemala. So that, there's no easy answer to the question of the indigenous peoples in the Atlantic coast areas of Nicaragua. It is a difficult and tragic situation. It seems to me that if we were not to support the Contra, however, that the Nicaraguan peoples might be able to find some way to resolve it.\r\n\r\n- But I have to take note of this, because you mentioned the thought of peace, and you made mention of the persecution of the Guatemalan Indians. You mentioned this, this is why I asked about the indigenous people of Nicaragua. Because two sides of the story must be presented.\r\n\r\n- I just explained, I think, the question of the, I'm not, I don't think that I've tried to whitewash the situation in Nicaragua. I think it's a tragic situation, but I don't think it's a quick, pardon me?\r\n\r\n- I said, those people, the Miskito Indians and the Sumo Indians, they have truly suffered. Their culture has been taken away from them in all this. So if we have to present, you know, and speak about the Guatemalan Indians, then all sides must be presented.\r\n\r\n- I think I did, didn't I? Yes?\r\n\r\n- Sir. It is interesting to watch the power around the room.\r\n\r\n- It is indeed, it is indeed. I feel like if we're going to live in this world, to enjoy, somehow, this natural way of life and have family and have land and educate ourselves, and travel once in a while through the world. If we have democracy, we can do those things. Of course, there is democracy in the United States. We look to the Greeks to define democracy, and as you said, democracy, according to the Greek work, it means the people, as opposed to the aristocrats. Now the United States is supporting aristocrats! They're not supporting democracy. You said of America or Philippines or Iran, or many other countries, but right now it's Central America. The land is owned by the few, about 10% of the people. Most of the people don't have any land, there is a great poverty, they live in shacks, open sewers, there's a great stink all over the place, no education, fines, no shoes, you name it. What kind of democracy is the United States supporting in Central America?\r\n\r\n- Good question.\r\n\r\n- I am concerned because I would like to make friends with those people, to exchange minerals back and forth. We can exchange, in the future, we will have some kind of tourism back and forth. It is better for us to prepare to present ourselves to the world. So simply, the power the United States has, has a lot of power, we can use this power and realize it. And force these governments down there to work towards this. Otherwise, with what is happening, it is susceptible to be taken by the Soviets. And I want to improve democracy, I want to encourage the people here to tell the people in the government to improve democracy, to support democracy, not aristocrats. Because aristocrats are taking over there.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I agree with everything you say, except I don't think there is a Soviet threat. That's the only thing I disagree with. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- There's been a lot of talk here tonight about nationalism and democracy being powered of people and their right to express themselves. Well, the democratically elected government in Costa Rica has been complaining in recent months that the Sandinistas in Nicaragua have been trying to create violence in their country, and basically overthrow their democracy. I was wondering if you could comment on that.\r\n\r\n- And some, some people in Costa Rica have said that, other people have expressed great concern that the government of Costa Rica has not taken steps to expel from Costa Rica the counter-revolutionary forces that have maintained bases along the Nicaraguan border. They have said that by maintaining, by defacto accepting the existence of those bases, that they are creating a situation which could increase, which does increase the tension and could advance the militarization of Costa Rica which they themselves opposed. Costa Rica is divided at this particular moment in a real sense between those who agree and support the US project to reestablish an army, and those who say that if we reestablish, if we establish an army, if we provide support to the forces that are trying to overthrow the the Nicaraguan government, that we are laying the basis for our own destruction as a democracy and creating the conditions for militarization. So I think the issue is a bit more complex than what you suggest there.\r\n\r\n- So do you think it's okay for Sandinista-backed terrorists to try to assassinate the leadership in Costa Rica?\r\n\r\n- I don't believe that's happened.\r\n\r\n- Well, just last November, 1983, there was a person by the name of Morales who was jailed in San Jose because he had a fake Costa Rican passport and it was found that he was there for just that purpose.\r\n\r\n- Whom did he assassinate?\r\n\r\n- He did not because they found out and put him in jail before he did it. But he was going to try to assassinate various members of the government there.\r\n\r\n- I would have to-\r\n\r\n- There are other terrorists.\r\n\r\n- Going to try to assassinate, I mean that's, you know, in these kinds of situations all kinds of allegations are made. I mean, I don't know. Well, if there's no evidence then how does one, evidence is something that one has to present. I mean, what is the evidence we have to debate that issue?\r\n\r\n- He was arrested and is in jail.\r\n\r\n- Lots of people get arrested, charged. They may have a charge, but is it a legitimate charge?! Pardon me?\r\n\r\n- I think Bob has been very kind and very, uh to all of us in asking a lot of our questions, maybe if someone else wants to talk to him individually, I think probably now is time for us to thank Bob very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36647/file/105784#t=0.0,2246.76571"}]}]}]}