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I don't know what it means","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912#t=3570.63,3572.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912/transcript/36658/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or the way we socialized socialized. 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Hard to tell right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912#t=3609.63,3614.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912/transcript/36658/annotation/896","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is there anything else that you could think of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912#t=3616.62,3618.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912/transcript/36658/annotation/897","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you want to tell. Oh I don't think so. 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This is an interview with our son Casey. Dr. Casey would you like to start off and tell me a little bit about your childhood and your family background. Well my father was a professor of sociology and history at the State University of New York primarily. We lived in several different places. I mean we grew up in New Paltz New York where there's a branch of the State University of New York. I have two brothers. My family tends to be social scientists others and me. One of my brothers is now on the faculty at Princeton. He's an expert in Chinese and the other one is on the Faculty of Public Health at Columbia. He's the sociologist and epidemiologist that's getting older but I was the only one that was interested in science. So that was unusual in my family. My mother taught elementary school. Mainly different different aspects but mainly what was then called retarded children elaborate more feel free. Okay. I don't know what you probably want things that are more related to science. Well it depends on. They encourage you in studying science. I don't. I didn't plan to go into chemistry till I was the first year students and college Bryn Mawr College and the chairman of the chemistry department you tell me that most of the women thought they wanted to be chemistry majors and changed to political science. I went the other way. I thought I want to major in something like political science and I got interested in chemistry but I really had too much expected to study science before then I didn't have a chemistry set when I was a little kid. I enjoyed playing with that and I enjoyed biology in high school and things like that but I don't think I saw myself majoring in science until I went to college. But certainly there was an expectation that you would just go to college. I mean yes yes yes. My father obviously had a PHC and my mother had a master's degree so I wasn't one of those people who was the first generation to go to college. I was one generation away from that. My my my mother's father my maternal grandfather didn't see any reason for women to go to college. But my mother did. So I was her. One generation away from women not not going on higher education but there was always you were treated basically equally with your brothers that there was an expectation that you would go on. Yes I think so. I think that in those days girls were treated quite like boys even as much as parents try to today. But certainly there was an expectation that I would go on. Now what's interesting about chemistry. What caught your attention and what made you decide to major in it. Hard to remember. Hard to remember now but I realized then that I guess basically I like things that are. Very factually and analytically based. My job now even though it's an administration is probably not probably definitely the most analytical or a part of the administration. And I think Dan I just realized that that was something that I was interested in doing the analytical mathematical if you will. But some of more analysis than that of working in the lab I liked. That that kind of thing. And I do think there's something inside you if you go to women's college is you're maybe more likely to bring more college and you're more likely to go to a scientific or. A field traditionally male. I was going to ask what you thought the impact of grandma was if it was a nice safe and secure place to kind of explore what you wanted to do. Well the adjective safe and secure quite as much because you noted in my view because women didn't go to Princeton and Yale and so on they tended to they went to the women's colleges. So the competitive competition is strong among the women. That's very true. It was it was competitive. But on the other hand I think that yes there is something that you're more likely to want to touch. I wanted my team to do my doctorate and at the time I went there were only 100 men and 100 women undergrads and 100 women grads. And when I looked at the undergraduates particularly I think they must have had to be very strong because they were deciding to go into these male oriented fields in that kind of atmosphere. So it was different from that. You didn't think it was more accepting it was more. I mean you've got to have some chemistry majors and they're all women. And so it was much more. Of a possibility. Then if you've been an undergraduate in the past to be gone to M.I.T. you would have no interest in science. It just stick to it for me to get to do an undergraduate degree. I tell you I think it's more difficult. How did you choose Grandma. Well again I thought about some of these things. But my my dad was one influence that he did. He did think that that the women's colleges were the best place for women to go at that time and he considered one of the best women's colleges. You probably know that it's one of the Seven Sisters it gives the THG. So they have a small graduate school that's become very controversial in later days but it gave it. A special status and since then many of. The other women's colleges had to put many of their early leaders in different women's rights. Carrie Thomas Alice Hamilton people were associated with Grandma. So. I think she really knew the most about it. I also applied to gone. To women's to which I applied. And so how did you enjoy your time. Did you. Yes. Oh yes. Well I didn't. It's not your interview that I. Oh yes. No I liked grandma a lot. Once I got used to it I'm very sad to have to leave as a senior. So no I liked it. I liked it a lot. Once I got used to it and academically challenging Oh it was very academically challenging with our courses or professors particularly. Oh sure. I enjoyed chemistry I liked biology too I took biology but I also liked Greek literature in translation. We had famous he's very well known in classics Richard Lattimore who did a lot of you know Greek literature in translation from him. I'm sorry. Take him that too. I think. I know it's when I went to M.I.T. what Grandma does and I suppose many other smaller colleges give you an appreciation and variety of this one. And I like that a lot. And went to my I couldn't quite get used to the fact that people were mostly interested in chemistry and not other things Grandma provided more of a liberal arts. Yes yes yes. And interject is interesting a lot of different fields and their requirements you had to take a philosophy which see my most my least favorite. But you know we were forced to take a variety of disciplines and I think most people wanted to do that. That was very good background. I guess the other thing I should tell you about growing up I lived two years in India. My father was a Fulbright professor in India for two years. Different years one was the year I was a senior in high school. And I did go with him to India. I don't know in retrospect such a good idea did much better. That year another year I was twelve years old. And by the time I was 18 and too much I was too interested in taking a key thinking about college and that was sort of difficult to do. So did that impact on your schoolwork at all to be out of the country. Yes I'm sure I'm sure. And when you ask me about science and stuff I went to four different high schools for different years. And so when I was I didn't have as I think maybe as much chance to explore science in depth because I was in different places and stuff like that. I'm sure that the academic work you get if you catch as catch can as I was my senior year at a local Catholic priest it tried to teach me Latin for example because I want to finish my life. That's not as good as being in a rigorous for traditional academic disciplines but you want another thing. So I don't know if it's a trade off. In retrospect it's a tradeoff. Well how did you decide to go to t after Grandma. What made you decide to do it Grandma. Of course that the faculty in my day were all male. They didn't have any women faculty in chemistry in my day. But I was very. Fond of and knew very well that the chairman of the department Professor and the winner and some of the other ones and they they as in many smaller arts colleges take a great interest in sending their graduates to good graduate schools. And so we talked about several that he thought. He felt would be good. Also many of the women are pretty mad. I considered that but the science faculty were anxious to encourage women to stay in the sciences rather than go into medicine which they considered in some ways a top out. But anyway my daughter. Chess anyway we talked about different ones. Ironically one of the ones that we discussed was the University of Wisconsin at Madison and I remember thinking oh my goodness why would I go out and be the one I considered seriously with Yale. Then I consider Yale and M.I.T. and maybe a few others I can't actually remember but it came down to Yale and. We talked about Johns Hopkins University. I thought that my brother was then a student at Harvard. So he was in Cambridge Massachusetts. I just thought that. Cambridge Massachusetts was a place I'd like to be in my there Southeast Boston University. Lots going on. And it was a fun place to be. In that era. Did you enjoy doing graduate work there. Did you work with good professors. Oh yes yes certainly. Both my now husband and I my husband was a year ahead of me but. We both worked with professors who were in their first year as being assistant professors. And that happened sort of by accident but it turned out to be a good thing in a way because they want to get the maximum out of their graduates. So they're very I mean they expect a lot. They work hard but on the other hand they give you a lot of. Attention. What do you want to call it. They're very interested in you more more so than there were three of us that were in my class with Professor Daniel Kemp. They're much more interested in you if you join a big group of 30 postdocs and so forth. So that was one thing about it and some downsides of course to working with system professors. But we we both. Thought it was a good deal. We didn't work for the same one. You met your husband. Yes yes I met. I met my husband and my son. He was a fellow graduate student. I say he was a year ahead of me but. Sometimes I was telling this to. Now heading for prejudice America Chemical Society's heard so I was telling after some of his colleagues and some of the women that I found out that if you work if you worked late at night you met all the bachelor to make a point to check in. Yeah but anyway more seriously the graduate students we did tend to work in at night a lot. I got to know the people the other people that worked at night. Part of it was because M.I.T. wasn't our lab for an air air conditioned at that time and it was in the summer especially was miserable during the day and your Hydra stop materials would all collect water and stuff like that. So anyway that was that was one of the things. But yes that's where I met Chuck. What was it like skipping ahead but do you think there's been a lot of benefits to dating and marrying someone that it's all sound chemistry in terms of what you talk about and how you support each other. Oh I think I think the pluses and minuses certainly is interesting. You can always talk to me now. Ironically now he's running for president the math Chemical Society and I've been involved in up to our interest after having diverged from a number of years there sort of coming back together. We've been working on this but not maybe as much as it used to. But for many years every single time we went out to dinner at a restaurant just the two of us. He was always looking for paper napkins to write the latest in the lab. So I appreciate it. To be honest as the years have gone by I'm less involved. I have a general idea of what he's talking about but I don't understand the depth. I think he but I didn't. He said he always assumes that I do understand that he's right there. What I would think about the results is important and things like that. I think that that aspect of it helps if you don't have someone that thinks you're. Just would be beyond your ability to comprehend. You certainly never thought that. He always assumes that I probably understand it in greater depth and I in fact do it because I've just been away from him. Quite frankly I've made the effort to I haven't had time to make the effort to stay up to date with it. The bad thing about it is that I felt I began to feel that I didn't want a career in the same area he was in when we came to Wisconsin. I always tell the young women that that was in 1968. Universities were not interested at least this one and other ones to which we looked at they were they were much more concerned about nepotism problems than spousal hires. So there was really no way that the chemistry department was going to hire me. So then you're if you want to stay in your field at all you either have to look at the industry at that time now and only had Oscar Meyer really not we didn't have the biotech industry growing up around Madison. And. I did look in other departments of the university too. But then you run into the problem that they don't want to broadly. Well this has been my version but they don't want to broadly educated organic chemists they want a textile chemist that knows what a dry cleaning to run into that the super's specialty areas problem. But I think women still continue to have to some extent. Have they asked you to teach or anything. I teach a chemistry department a couple of times and I certainly could have done more. But in the years that I was here after I got my PSP I mainly did research that was that was for a couple reasons. One it's. Just a greater interest of mine. Yes I think that was mean I wanted to keep it up and then. I actually talked more after I came here to join the administration. That is one possible do you get a lecture one afternoon we started doing research research is pretty all consuming. Do you miss the research. Well. Yes in a sense. But the name that my office is often given within the administration's institutional research I mentioned to you before is the most analytical and data. So in a sense we do research on different different different. But even I've. Come to. Learn I've hired lots of analysts to work with me over the years and the traditional area for people to come from. Social science sociology and the senior analyst here does have a Masters in Sociology but I also find that scientists are very good at this work because they are quantitatively trained in number trained. They have to learn that's learned something. But they're very good at this kind of thing. In other words I think there is that quality towards data and numbers that translate from science to other areas to other areas. Yes. Now. I'm going to pop back real quick to my teeth. Did you enjoy working on your dissertation. And what was your topic. Yes yes yes. I mean I think everybody. I don't know. I think everybody likes their dissertation but you have to work too hard if you don't really know. I was extremely interested in this young Dan camp who was then young was very enthusiastic about it and was very geared at showing you the wider ramifications. So it seemed like just a little thing. He was very good at that. So we were in the big picture we were testing something called the Hammond postulate which was the general idea that was that the more the more selective reactions are the My School where they go and let's see I thought about this for well I'm not interested in explaining it very well but the more the faster they go the less selective they they are. And so we were looking at react in a relationship between selectivity and reactivity of compounds. And that's a very general. Problem in the big picture of interest. Kamla And demolish all different things but of course in the area I talked to girls which is the model compounds. We used to test it. It was a much more specific project. But I was extremely interested in it. Enthusiastic about it. Dan Champa had been trained at Harvard under Woodward and again but he was a member of the Harvard Society of Fellows. I only mentioned this because the whole idea of that too is to take a broader look at science and look at how science interacts with other areas and things like that. So he was very good at encouraging us. To do that. And so once you finish your piece then your husband received the offer from Wisconsin right. I'm sure you've heard this from other women but I would say that sometimes I think it's well I haven't changed much too bad. Throughout my time as a student and particularly because I had a young professor press faculty pretty much treat me treated the women and men about the same as graduate students there weren't many women. There were four or five in my class which was a lot compared to previous but anyway. But once you get time to get a job that I think is where that distinction between how they treated men and women came and I guess I did checking and I weren't engaged at that time and I did interview with some of the industrial interviewers and things like that and at least one of the industrial interviewers just said to me he said we'd rather have a less qualified man than a more qualified woman. Well he was just saying that he went on to tell me that they found that women got involved with their families and didn't stay with their careers and things like that. So anyway. So I think it was sort of the case that when I did get engaged to chuck the faculty was sort of relieved. All right take care. I couldn't care less. You know women weren't doing I think it's more difficult these days. But I do see the two career couples looking at a place that's best for both of them. But it just simply wasn't an issue. Usually the woman came along and either taught as an adjunct or. Well I don't really face the fact at that point if that's what I was going to have to do that that would be the main option. Now what you're finding. But I think that women are trained much more to think about the future than my generation. I think that's both good and bad. And my daughter I saw too much worrying. But on the other hand I think my generation just didn't. Didn't think. That way and we didn't think about the fact that if we move with our husbands it was unlikely that we would ever get on tenure track or whatever the issue might be. That's changed. How did you make the adjustment to Madison or was it a big adjustment. It was a big adjustment. I'm sure it's a big adjustment. I'd like to. It was a big adjustment. But. I guess I get used to it fairly quickly I was very. I miss Cambridge a lot when I first came because. Besides the other opportunities Madison had few foreign food restaurants all those things that that Cambridge had had so much else. So I missed it in that way too. Now I'm very we were just at the American Chemical Society meeting in Boston. Now I'm glad to say but anyway. So that was but our. Daughter was born about a year after after we were here. So I had that issue to distract me too. What about it. Actually that's one of my questions is how did you balance being involved with positions and also being a mother and a wife. How did you balance that out. Basically working part time and yes I did work part time when my daughter daughter was young but I was working as a research associate. So it was difficult still because she. Well a variety of things. First of all you can't get as much done in three days as you can and then chuckles again tremendous pressure on assistant professors. He was working 80 hours a week and stuff. So there wasn't he was very very good but he just wasn't an issue that he would stay home and take his jet in the evenings so I could go back to the lab. I wanted to go back to get a babysitter basically. I mean he was telling him it didn't occur to me to. Try to again I think society has changed the way they look at look at this. I think if Chuck had an in day if he had it as an assistant professor I can't come back in a seminar I can't take care of the kids people would have thought what's wrong with Chuck Casey but if I did that said oh yeah that's appropriate. Just different expectations. So that was difficult. And part of the reason I did go under administration there was several reasons but was that science is very difficult to do if you can't go to your lab. This kind of work if you find this here you can. You can stick it in your briefcase and do it anywhere. And that's that's a big advantage. I think that's. Very hard for us for women because I think that's one of the things that makes it hard for women in science compared to other fields. It just demands so much time in the laboratory itself. And I did occasionally take my daughter with me to when I was running in a marsh or whatever but it really appropriate for a little 2 year old to be wrecking in my room. Just some more. Some of the males are dreadful house did bring our kids. Anyway so that was one of the reasons. Were there other reasons why it sounds like you consciously decided to go into administration in a large way. Well I guess I guess so. Well another I was a research associate for six years I think approximately 69 to 75. I was on soft money. You're familiar with that term. I thought when I read this I didn't want to be on soft money forever. That was one and I looked around in a number of other departments pharmacy and it was what would send the whole med school had this out of position and food science and I just. Didn't have much luck in convincing people as I say that. If you were trained in organic chemistry you you could learn chemistry or whatever they wanted someone that was trained in that specific case. So. That was that was difficult. I guess one of the things was you know I still thought I wanted a career where I would be doing an adjunct teaching all the time so that I could see that it was hard to work. Hard to do that. In science. So that was another reason. And then the final final thing was shortly after we got her to mass in 69 checked out melanoma which is a time of skin cancer and in 75 she had a recurrence. And the doctor said he would live. They said he'd die. So I realized that I wasn't making enough money to get along what I was doing research associate. So that was another another factor I. I really needed. At that point and really needed a more reliable source of income I thought. And you may have been right. You didn't die a doctor can't figure it out but he didn't die. So I guess the other thing was I did feel at that point that I would like to be in an area that was different from his. Now if I'd been in pharmacy that would have been OK too. But I really didn't want to be in the Chemistry Department where he was. Was never one of those people that wanted to work in his lab and be sort of like his lab manager and say I want to have my own space. Even Mary Cesar Laurean married she was basically in a personal security work with her husband. Just for her my cup of tea. So there are a lot of couples that's one of the trends that we just found. Oh really. There are a large number of couples. I think that would be very successful and a lot of ways on a marriage. Is different for us. Yes. So that's when you talk to the chancellor office. Had they contacted you or how did you move into the church. Well I had to explain to all that it was before the days of job prehistoric 1975 but the way you got jobs there weren't open job listings a way to get jobs. So I knew the chance was that device since I knew the vice chancellor because he had been chairman of the chemistry department in he actually hired Chuck when he was chairman of the chemistry department so I knew him and I called him up and actually I used to bring my contact too. And then I could explain that. But I came here on a temporary appointment. First they think we're doing 70 75 77 biannual budget. Can you come to see. So I came to see and I worked on that budget and. More or less to stay. Even though that wasn't the original plan. And one of the things that you like about what you were doing you did apply some of your knowledge just to another area. I think. Sort of. You have some idea of how an academic department works and things like that but then. Also interesting data. I got more and more the longer I was here the more I got into the data. Now I've been moving out of it again a little but anyway. Do you think you made the right decisions. Well my view of why you take home how worried are you. I don't know what that is. It's hard to second guess what you could have or what might have done. But it sounds like you've enjoyed what you've done. Yeah it's like I don't know what you find from the other people but no one is 100 percent satisfied. But yes I tell people that. It's never boring it's sometimes frustrating. What would you say in terms of the University of Wisconsin at Madison since you've solved in this area for 25 years. What major changes have you seen in terms of the development of the campus structure. Oh boy I really have to think about what I think some of the major changes are. One one certainly came at the time that we were going through a merger at the University of Wisconsin Madison was separate from all the other institutions in the state until 1972. In 1972 the. Then governor thought that we'd save money if we became a merge system. So we were merging and I came here in 1974 and that was right after merger and it was still Madison. The faculty were highly opposed to merger and. The vice chancellor of shame that I mentioned. He also was highly opposed to it and he had us spending this is putting in a very personal terms that he had me spending a lot of time still proving and all different to number oriented analytical ways that a Madison was different from the rest of the system. This seems like an obvious point but we see that we were actually being shipped if you will on the financial side by merger. It's very hard to compare in financial terms. UW Madison with UW forever which is a two year campus because you can't graduate compared against. And so we put a lot of time and effort into basically trying to establish where Madison would fit in this merged system and that I think has finally been resolved. We still talk occasionally about charter status from Madison or something like that. But I think even even her Shane who is retired now remains around here sees that in certain ways that merger is a great advantage to Madison namely that we don't have to fight for a budget in front the legislature is a separate institution in the system because you're all part of a system and the biggest population base in Wisconsin is in Milwaukee. And so they have the most votes in the legislature they have more votes. Madison and it's not really to our advantage in many ways to be alone or have our budget alone with the legislature. Many Madison but an equal number think that it's just not necessarily for the sake had the best African Literature Department or wherever it is. So that's changed a lot. I think we've become happier as part of a merge system used more productively. So what I discovered is that people that were doing the kind of work that I was when I started going to international meetings in the area that I am now you my colleagues weren't trying to compare themselves with other universities in Michigan or the university in North Carolina or whatever it was people that did my kind of job or were more interested in looking at looking internally in the university trying to determine where I was spending too much Where are we spending not enough. Should we take more students should we take fewer students. They were concentrating on the internal management of the university and my office is now more or less come around to. That's our main mission. We don't spend much time anymore worrying about how we look at teaching load analysis compared to white water Oshkosh and something like that. So that certainly. Is one change. I could talk about some but that's been the biggest probably the biggest change for Madison. I think most. Pretty major ones. Wisconsin is the only state that has done that. Kind of merger. I would maintain it's one of the few that has the diversity of institutions from going from Madison to UW but now as you know in California they have a couple of systems but the doctoral in Berkeley or UCLA they're in one. And then the state colleges is another one in the community college and the State University of New York for example where my dad was for so long even though they like to think oh and Albany and Stony Brook are major research universities. I think most people would agree that Madison's. More outstanding public university well where they're aspirational here they call me up and tell me that. So I think for the diversity of kinds of institutions we're persistent although we're not the biggest whatever. New York and California both bigger much bigger. That way. Now. When you shifted to administration away from more research orientation did that change your the organization to belong to a professional. Or did you just stick with chemistry. I stayed in the American Chemical Society. I had on my beat I'd actually been fairly active in governance of HCF. I've been a member of their National Council for 18 years and various things. Kathy enough is to have stayed active in that. That's been pretty much it for for signs that that is the main professional organization for campus. And then yes I've gone to various ones in higher education. The primary one I've liked is called a youth data exchange and it's all a unit a university. I would say this one course can get together and exchange data and try to figure out how major research universities which really are quite a bit different from other institutions can compare data on the. Way that is an apples to apples comparison. So that's been one of the ones. How have you been involved with governance governance. How did you find there. Usually through the years. Was it good for networking or not. Well sure I can say I wasn't so much in chemistry. It wasn't helpful for when you call it professional contacts. Some of my other things. But I've continued again because Chuck partly in my own eyes I can to see friends there and be interested in the issues that they that they're involved with. So. Well most recently I'm on their budget and finance committee and that is sort of professionally related for me. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's a nice combination of your chemistry interests. Have you been involved with any of the women chemistry organizations such as I noted Sigma Pi or the Women's Tennis committee. Yes I was a member of the women chemistry committee for a couple of years. So I have been on that committee too. I don't know what to say I. I'm certainly interested in women in science issues and whatever I can do to. Help help with that. Do you think that your. Daughter and I were actually talking about mentoring. You when looking back over your career. Do you consider yourself as having mentors not only in chemistry but also in the administrative area where you are now. Not so much. I think that is something that I for whatever reason I missed to some extent. First of all it wasn't me talking when I don't know what you said that it wasn't as popular and you didn't. I think it's probably a good idea. Our university is doing this now. I wonder of signing the least the young assistant professors mentors because at least in my age there were no women there were no women to ask. And it was still that thing that was an uncomfortable mess about asking a male to do this for you. I don't know whether it even occurred to her to me to me that this was a possibility or something you should do an exam. Maybe the one a little more not less but one thing one suffers from working for a young professor. They're. Very involved in their careers in something and they haven't gotten as much into the mentor role. They're very good thing. It's kind of nice when you graduate in a college professor but you don't establish it didn't establish this much. Plus I don't have a lot of experience in a university. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. All of that. So. I certainly had some people that had helped me in various ways. But you know in the. Scarily what I call a narrow definition of a mentor I'm not really had. What did you say. She hasn't had one either. So we were discussing whether that's a generational issue. Now they're regularly assigned to people and the impact that they're assigned to the. Assistant professors. I don't know so much postdocs something that's not always successful either because being a mentor is kind of special skills too. I think there's a tenure a mentor and then there might be a professional mentor. So there are variations. Yeah yeah yeah. I do think actually that one of the contributions I can make now is trying to help the younger women see what the possibilities are and what what is likely to happen if they do X Y and then that's just a choice. Again I don't think that my generation particularly made aware of this. It just wasn't part of our culture. Right. So if people choose whatever the Afghan Inquirer that works with now she has a page in biochemistry and I talked to her a lot about these issues. Well if you do this and probably do this well that's going to happen. It's your choice. She knows about the different choices and has a clearer picture of what the choices are going to be. Have you thought about what you want to do with the rest of your time here at the university. Do you have goals that you want to accomplish. Well I'm a. I'm thinking I probably want to retire next year. I'm 60 now. So you know I'm not really young but I know I'm not as old but I I really think I don't know whether I want to do some consulting or special projects or not I'm still sort of thinking about that. But one reason I want to is that I do have more time to do what I want to do. One thing about administration I think my husband thought he just did three years as chairman of the chemistry department and even there he saw that your time is not your own. You you often it's fun and it's exciting but I often come in thinking I'm going to do X and end up doing Y but your time just isn't your own way. You're very needed if you do the I do because you provide data and background statistics to make it's called Decision Support. So everybody we have way more requests for help than we can. That's good in that you don't feel you're going to be unemployed but it's bad that you don't have as much time to shape your own agenda. I have given papers at national meetings and stuff that I really have to be a very hard time doing next. I have to work nights and weekends so I just can't get it done during the day and stuff. I mean even something it's going to be related to my work but even something like that I don't know about you. You probably have it too. So anyway I do think I want to retire some more time. Now what exactly I'm going to do as part of my my same use now that I don't have time to think of the time to figure it out. I know my daughter got married last summer and then right now I am helping Chuck with his campaign to be president of American Chemical Society and those two things that got me on top of and if he wins what will you do. Well you have to help him with that. Well I I just I just got elected to the same committee cabinet tray and asked you I have my own things within the ACA yes you say you're responsible are responsible for. But yes but he likes to do his own thing but I'm sure I can help him with something. We do feel that it's the bureaucracy that could use some provisions but I was going to ask what it's like to be part of an organization that is so large that make it difficult to navigate or difficult for newcomers. I'm not a good person assets. He doesn't have 160000 members is the largest scientific association in the world supposedly. Well I don't know what I've found. What I found in the government is what Chuck and I both feel is that the number of people involved in governance is fairly small. You get to know them all fairly well because you have to be an elected councillor to get a governance job. It does tend to be repeat people all the time. And one thing we'd like to work on is how to get more people with fresh ideas instead of just I mean we're in this to recycling the same old people all the time that said we have some ideas but I know exactly how to do that. But one of the answers is it's almost more of a problem. It is so ingrained with that but I think the other areas Chuck knows the organic camps and there's so many areas that you know people in your area and then. 160000 members about 10 to 20000 come to any national meeting that's still big but then they break down into subgroups who all know each other fairly. Well everything else about your life and your experiences that you would like to share. You can think of. Well I didn't know I had a daughter I was going to ask and she again I guess we're all independent in our family. She didn't want to follow in my footsteps or Chuck particularly. Exactly she went to college she didn't want to even think of going to the east coast that was stuck up and she didn't like East and earth and all that. So she went to her moment in California and then she she decided she wanted to be a doctor. She still thinks that we tried to influence that way but I'm not checking out I don't see a difference. But anyway one of the reasons she decided she was good a lot of subjects and she couldn't quite decide whether science or humanities was right for her and stuff. And so then she's become a psychiatrist and she finds that that's a pretty good intersection between science because they do feel. Prescribing from talking to people she still believes in the psychotherapy treatments. It isn't just medically a pill. I call it more heart more holistic and more holistic. So it's been interesting to watch her grow up and develop. I do think that when you watch that that's one way that you see that women. Role treatment whatever have changed over the years. What's her experience. Largely positive in school when she didn't run into any problems or. She had problems. I mean she had problems. She was a good student. But frankly what happened to her when she was in high school she got anorexia and we had a hard time with that. But then she's totally over it now. She's 33. Well I'm basically all for it anyway. But you guys are very good student in that kind of thing and it's characteristic of anorexia professional perfectionist. Yes. But she dealt with it. Oh well you know what I can tell you is she married a man who has a small business in Dover New Hampshire. So now she lives in Maine. So she's ended up on the East Coast. Now I have to hear all about how wonderful Maine is all the time and I know how wonderful Maine is the east coast and so on and so forth. So any way that you can point out that she went to male medical school which is a competitive medical school to went in there. She had some of the same experiences that I was going to ask if she ran into any issues in her school. She she had she had some issues. And again I think even more than I was she was very interested in Deborah Tannen spoke about how women can present themselves differently than other other research along that make that thing. And she certainly thought that that was true in medical school and believe that now as a psychiatrist who she actually is I guess in doing a little radio show on problems for women and she has this one thing that she tells me that you've heard is that if you throw the ball to a woman outfielder and she misses it all the ball comes in oh my goodness I I should have gotten it but I dropped it oh that's terrible. How could I've been so stupid to drop the ball and everything that a man I'll say why doesn't I learn how to throw. She says that she experiences that all all the time in her head when they had women question themselves whereas men will question. Yes. And she said very much in medical school. That the natural instinct for whatever. I don't know what it means or the way we socialized socialized. Men are much more sure of themselves and the women are much more likely to die about their diagnosis and stuff. Right at least. So anyway she should be very conscious about it must be wonderful to see your daughter succeed in that area and to know that she's gone into science. I mean you obviously you and your husband obviously had an impact so. Hard to tell right. Is there anything else that you could think of that you want to tell. Oh I don't think so. Let me figure out how to make sure it's safe. We don't want it. We don't want to. Be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73072/file/158912#t=0.0,3634.3902"}]}]}]}