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Right now he's received a stay, and the stay is not quite conclusive as to how long that stay will be. It should be at least two weeks due to technical considerations. But longer than that is up in the air. We won't know more until an appeal is heard December 4th. Mr. Otey came to our attention due to the efforts of a student on campus here, Jeff Weiss who maintained a correspondence with Mr Otey through the past four or five months. They developed quite a relationship and his situation has been brought to us via Jeff's efforts and Jeff's correspondence with him. On the panel tonight, Jeff Weiss will be one of the panel members and he'll talk more about his relationship with Mr. Otey. Also on tonight's discussion, John Donaghy from St. Thomas Aquinas catholic church will be here as part of the panel discussion to discuss the death penalty in general. Tonight's discussion will focus in the absence of Mr. Otey on the panel discussion involving Jeff discussing the different aspects of Mr. Otey's case and the death penalty as it relates to him, as well as John Donaghy discussing the general aspects of the death penalty more from a moral principle. As well as a half hour video tape which Jeff, and Abraham, and myself made when we went down to Lincoln to visit Mr. Otey the week of Thanksgiving break, from which we took three hours of video and cut a half hour. Let me just introduce to start this thing off, the man who's mostly responsible for all of us being here tonight through who's efforts all of us are aware of this individual on death row. Could you just welcome Jeff Weiss.\r\n\r\n- I just want to say a few words before we show the video. I came into contact with Mr. Otey in August. A person who was at Nebraska State Penitentiary who's release I corresponded with, he told me about this person who was on death row who, when he, for a long time had no money and he couldn't buy cigarettes and coffee and those things, this man bought those things for him and he was a really great guy. He also told me that he wrote poetry. Upon showing me those two books of poetry I was blow away as everybody who has ever read Willie's poetry is blown away. It was then that I began corresponding with Willie and we corresponded for quite some time. When we began to look into Willie's case, his specific case, there are questions of his guilt and innocence. But beyond that, we took a look at the death penalty and I don't know how many people know this, but in the history of this country, no white person has ever been executed for killing a person of color. If you're African American you are eight times more likely to get the death penalty than if you are white. In Willie's case he's accused of raping and murdering a white woman 12 years ago. The race factor there, I think, is evident in what gave him the death penalty other than the life in prison. I think what we'll do the now is just show the video. You'll be able to see a person on death row and judge for yourself. The inspiration for Willie's poetry. I think a major inspiration for me is injustice. I forgot to mention too that Willie is an interesting person. He's been on death row for 12 years and he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't watch television. Although I've been told that he does watch Married with Children. Can't totally say he doesn't watch television. But he spends his time studying all the time. They have what's called a law library there. He's read over, I don't know if it was 6,000 books, I'm not sure. He writes poetry, he writes short stories. In fact, he's published two books of poetry. This is one right here. We have 25 copies of this book and we are selling them for $5 a piece if anybody's interested. The money we get will be sent directly to Willie. I just wanted to share before we go on, real quick, if you have any questions or anything and to John to talk a little bit about the death penalty. I just wanted to share a little bit about something that he wrote in one of my letters. It has to do with the system and the problems going on and everything. He says, \"Too often the focus is on the word education. \"But I believe it has to go further than that. \"It has to begin with the terminology or the term we have so little in common with, love. Love ourself in order that we can love each other. Very simple I believe. If we love life, then we no longer need to destroy it. We no longer desire to fear it, which is our greatest God. So right now, I would like to introduce John Donaghy up here to talk a little bit about the death penalty. If you all have any questions about Willie and his case or anything else? We were going to have two other people on the panel, but due to the weather we were not able to. We also talked about showing the video again sometime next semester because of the weather hurt some of the turn out tonight. But I want to thank you all for coming, because this is a great turn out considering you almost died on the way here driving your car.\r\n\r\n- I guess one thing I'd like to mention, just a couple things. The first thing we note is that the United States is the only western industrialized major power that still has the death penalty and still practices the death penalty. Western Europe? No. In fact, much of Latin America even has abolished the death penalty. Canada has abolished the death penalty. The United States is pretty much, with a couple of countries like South Africa, The Soviet Union, Iraq and Iran that still have the death penalty. Oh, the company we keep in terms of this. I guess the whole thing is, there's a whole bunch of myths about the death penalty. The one really big myth is that it's a deterrent. There have been several studies. Most of them are inconclusive. My training both in terms of philosophy, in terms of theology, is that you give the benefit of doubt to life. So you might say one is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore at the very least, there's no deterrent affect or no proven deterrent affect, why is it there? I think there's two reason's it's there. Two among many, but two ones I'd like to mention. One is, I'd say, the shortcut solution. In our society we feel overwhelmed by powerlessness, by the crime that there is around us. Rather than try to deal with the cause of the crime, rather than trying to work through those things and trying to create social situations that deal with the crime, people will come up with the shortcut solution and say, this is the way you deal with a crime, kill the person who did it. That, to me, is both illogical and immoral. The other thing, I think, is when you get down to it, maybe the reason that there's a death penalty is people are motivated by revenge. To me that's just immoral and what it does is brutalize out society. The death penalty not only kills people but it brutalizes our society. What is the effect on the society that is motivated by revenge? For me, it shows there's something wrong. There's something wrong with the society that will see that. If we continue to do this, we're going to be in a major problem. I really think the US has to change it's policy. I'd like to close with two brief remarks. I could talk for hours about this. When I taught the introductory to ethics course I usually liked to spend a class or two debunking the death penalty. Two of the things that hit me very much, one of them is the very fact that in a world where the nations have a massive power to themselves, in a world where the nations use nuclear weapons, where they the use of torture, where they've done these things for themselves, one of the first things we need to do, this is how we're going to come to this main point, is to deny the state the authority to kill. We need to deny the state the authority to kill. To take the life. It's like the button I'm wearing. It's a 15 year old button. Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong? It's really that sense that we must find a different way of doing it. The last thing I would like to say is, this comes from my faith connection, is I wear a cross around my neck. I think a lot of people don't realize that that was the electric chair of the day. Maybe the ultimate protest a Christian should do these days is to wear little electric chairs around their neck and recognize the death penalty is a violation of all that there is good. It's a violation of God of life who went, as I believe, when Jesus was faced with a woman who was going to stoned to death, he said, \"Let the person without sin cast the first stone.\" In a world where nations and people are not sinless. To give the of the nation that authority is insane, is immoral, and I think it's even a really dangerous situation. As I said, I could talk for hours, but that's all I'd like to say. I'd be glad to dive in on whatever.\r\n\r\n- Can I mention real quick, actually we weren't really sure about what we were going to do tonight because Willie's execution was scheduled to take place on December 5th. Which is three days from now. He got a last minute stay of execution by the Nebraska Supreme Court. The legal logistics of that are December 4th they will probably start hearing what's called the successor plea Which Mr. Stucchi, Willie's lawyer will make an appeal in the Nebraska Supreme Court. The good news is that they took what's called a death warrant away. In order to renew the death warrant, that takes 14 days. We know the execution's not going to take place on December 5th. Lincoln Nebraska's not executed a person since 1969, that was Charles Starkweather. We know it's not going to take place on the 5th, we know it can't take place two weeks after that. Death row, it's just a wait and see. It's interesting reading Willie's letters. He prepares himself to die and then he gets a stay. His emotions range all over the place. He's real up in some letters and other letters he's real down. But I'll just read two of his poems right now, then I'd like to get some reaction from you all. The first one is called death poem. Could you walk unescorted to your death? Could you pass that group of strangers and not bat an eye? Could you ingest the volts and volts that make you jerk and contort and not cry out? Could you wait years and years envisioning you strapped in that chair? Would you ever close your eyes, afraid you'll miss a moment of life? Would you give a damn if they murdered you? I say, I will not flinch, will not sob, will not faint. I say, I will not ask anyone I love to be there. Will not eat there offerings of a special meal. Will not write anybody goodbye. I say, I will not want any tears shed. Will not hear any prayers. Will not beg any God to save me. I say drink wine and dance party when they murder me because the next time I say, it will be you. I want to now read a much lighter poem that Willie wrote. It must have been about his childhood. I once had a two wheeler. I kept it in the house out of the rain. Away from the snow and the thief. I talked to it sometimes when I rode down streets and across fields. That bike was my friend and when I grew older I came to believe that best friends are bicycles, dreams, and trees. They don't hurt people. I once had a book. I slept with it under my pillow. Can I get any reaction from you all, what you thought about the video? This is the first time that we've show it to anybody. Or reactions to the video or any questions you might have concerning Willie's case or the death penalty in general? How many of you knew that no white person in this country has ever been executed for the killing of a person of color? Well I knew you guys may .\r\n\r\n- Can you tell us .\r\n\r\n- Willie himself maintains his innocence to this day. The main two things that the police have to go on is a confession that was made in a town in Florida where Willie allegedly confessed to the crime. Willie himself says that this was a forced confession. That he was scared, he didn't know if he would ever make it out of that room, et cetera. They talked and he filled in the blanks. He maintains his innocence to this day. There was a stereo that was taken out of the house when the murder took place. It was a low scale brand of Panasonic that you can get at Radio Shack. Every one of them do not have specific serial numbers on them, but they found a stereo in Chicago that Willie had sold to somebody that was a low brand Panasonic stereo. Willie said he just bought the stereo. He said it wasn't the stereo. They can't link it up to a specific serial numbers because they don't have them. That was where he was linked up. More on Willie's side, there's no forensic evidence that Willie was in the house. They took 158 finger prints and none of those finger prints matched Willie. After the murder, he was arrested, I believe it was nine months after the crime took place. It was a real heinous crime. It was a rape and murder of a woman. It was a real heinous crime. What we talk about on our petition is not so much his guilt or innocence, but there is the question of a fair trial. Willie's public defender had three other trials that he was doing the two weeks up until Willie's trial. He met with Willie four times. The day that he was supposed to go to court, Willie's lawyer Mr. Riley, the public defender, went to the judge and said, \"We're not ready. \"I need a continuance.\" The judge said, \"You people \"down at the public defender's office \"got to get your stuff together. \"We're going on trial whether you want it or not.\" There were three federal district judges that alluded to the fact that Willie did not receive a fair trial during one of the appeals. They wrote descending opinions, but he's already went all the way to the United States Supreme Court. He's used all his direct appeal. The second round of appeals is habeas corpus appeals. I guess the most that we can hope for is that they commute his sentence to life in prison. That's what we're hoping for. None of us are saying free him or anything. We're just trying to have his sentence commuted for a number of reasons and for what he can contribute to society. I think he's working on a third book of poetry too.\r\n\r\n- You said you're involved with his lawyers, is there any public opinion in the media, or not?\r\n\r\n- Well, that's an excellent question. In fact, Willie was scared to death about this video tape. We originally, like I said, the committee on lectures asked Willie to come here and speak. When Willie couldn't come here and speak, we talked to the warden and he told us over the phone that we could make a video tape. We asked him if we could make a video tape over the phone. He said, \"You can make one.\" He said, \"Willie doesn't give interviews.\" He said, \"Willie will call you back within a half hour \"and let you know.\" He calls back and Willie says, \"Yeah, come on down and do it.\" Willie told us specifically to only play this to the concerned people at this university because the problem with the media is, they'll have a two minute story about this upcoming execution. They devote a minute and a half to the specific gory details of the crime. In great detail. Then they do the last 20 seconds on one of Willie's poems. By the time the two minute thing gets over, what we heard down there, people are calling the television stations mad as hell. You're spending my tax dollars to let this you know what write poetry? They're mad because in the media in their print, like at the Omaha World Herald, they don't refer to Willie as Harold Lamont Otey, or even Willie. They call him Walking Willie, which is because he was arrested at Ak-Sar-Ben in Omaha, his job was walking the horses back from the race track. They sensationalize things. Walking Willie, it sounds like stalking Willie or something. They also print the worst possible picture of him that you could print, make him look as scary as possible. They print the confession in great detail. They the ever say that Willie said, this is not a confession. They never say that. They just print the confession. They sensationalize things so much that he doesn't want anything to do with the media. 48 Hours, their producer Bob Lang, wanted to give an interview. But it turns out they don't care or want to talk. CBS doesn't care or want to talk to Willie. All they want to do is follow him around on the day that they fry him. On the day they put him to death they want to follow him around. They don't care about Willie. Like Willie says, there's a difference between being committed or being committed to the cause. There's the people down there with the Nebraskans Against the Death Penalty. Willie says he doesn't really like them because he'll call them and ask them to get an address for him or come visit him and they never will. I think he's a little suspicious of people who are for the cause of the death penalty but really don't spend their energies towards the people on death row. There is quite a bit of attention actually in Lincoln. But with the common people it's negative because of what the media portray.\r\n\r\n- I have a question for you. You said that laws should be changed. The death penalty should be diminished. What do you suggest?\r\n\r\n- Abolished.\r\n\r\n- Abolished.\r\n\r\n- Abolished completely. Everywhere and anywhere.\r\n\r\n- What do you suggest being done instead? .\r\n\r\n- I'm not a legal scholar. I'm not a person into the punishment system or whatever they call it, the prison system in this country. I'm not in that, but what it is is I think, if there is a need. I emphasis if. If there is a need that some people be separated off from society, we ought to find a way to do it in which they're treated at least as human beings and not as dogs. Or worse than dogs, dogs are treated better than some people in prisons. That's the one thing. Second thing is we need to really begin. I think one of the things is we begin to deal with questions of alternative to imprisonment. There's incredible things that are being done. Even in the state of Iowa, even in the city of Ames in terms of victim offender type work, in terms of mediation, and the like preventing the use of prisons for crimes where there is no need for any of that. There are things being done by a lot of scholars in that area. What it is is we need to find things that are humane, that really are indicative. Because what we do to prisoners is probably very indicative of our vision of the world. We need to find a new vision of the world and therefore a new way of dealing with the whole question of our prisons or criminal justice system. I think that's the thing I'd say. The criminal justice system has to be looked at, alternatives to both imprisonment need to be dealt with. And the death penalty needs to be abolished completely everywhere and anywhere.\r\n\r\n- I'd just like to say that I no system is infallible. Grant people aren't executed, right away or anything, but there's some room for error.\r\n\r\n- And there have been a number of cases where there have been people who have been executed and afterwards it's been discovered that they were not the person who did it, or there have been cases where people were on death row for a long time and someone else confessed and then they were later released. There are enough cases. I say that one person killed unjustly just shows the whole idea of killing an individual in the death penalty is bogus.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering how many times in the last 12 years they have set an execution date for him only to have a stay? I don't understand how he can live like that for 12 years, keep expecting death and then it never comes.\r\n\r\n- It must have been a lot of times given all the appeals. First of all appealing to the Nebraska Supreme Court, then appealing to the Federal District court. Actually ending up appealing all the way to the United States Supreme Court. It must been a lot of times, but I don't know how many.\r\n\r\n- I think this is the first time the date has actually been set. They let you go through your before they set the date. They're not allowed to execute you while you're on one of the success appeals.\r\n\r\n- That's true.\r\n\r\n- A pending appeal, as long as it's a success appeal and the Supreme Court is cool that they can execute people who have a success appeal pending, but they can't execute you if you have this habeas corpus pending. But he's run through those two rounds of appeals, now they can execute if he has appeals pending. Even though this time they chose to the success appeal and not go the . They had to wait for the habeas corpus appeal.\r\n\r\n- Is there any chance that his execution will be delayed until next year? That there's a possibility that the governor of Nebraska .\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it's possible because with this stay in the Nebraska Supreme Court, they could decide to either put off the execution for months or for a couple weeks. We don't know. It's really uncertain. It's possible that when the new governor comes in then they will be set with that choice. One of the things that he still has too is a last minute clemency hearing. That's a last ditch effort where you appear before the governor, the attorney general, and the Secretary of State of Lincoln Nebraska. Is that right? The Secretary of State? That doesn't sound right. I keep thinking James Baker. That's a last ditch effort, a clemency hearing. There is always that option. He might have a good chance at a clemency hearing too. It's interesting that he still maintains his innocence to this day too. When I've talked to other prisoners, it's unusual that somebody strongly maintains their innocence for a long period of time like this and does not waiver on it and does not just give up. You'd get tired of it.\r\n\r\n- I was just curious, I signed one of the petitions that you had set out . Two questions.\r\n\r\n- Those petitions are going to be sent to Governor Orr. In fact, we haven't sent all the petitions yet because Willie's attorney, Tim Ford, he's from the NWAACP legal fund. He's in Seattle Washington. He said that the smallest amount of publicity the better. It's actually a different strategy and it kind of hit us with surprise. We were glad that we didn't send a lot of petitions in. Willie's lawyer's strategy is to not create very much publicity about the whole thing in Lincoln. Apparently he's a tremendous lawyer, one of the best in the country. It's nice that Willie got hooked up with him because his legal representation up to this point has not been very good. I want to thank you all for coming on this night. Everybody drive home safely and we'll probably be doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41089/file/112937#t=0.0,1809.312"}]}]}]}