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Before I introduce tonight's speaker, I'd like to make you aware of tomorrow's events. At 12 o'clock, we have John Randall coming in to lecture about refugees and immigrants, starvation, and American dream. At three o'clock we have Freddy talking about the future of work, and at eight o'clock, we have William Garrety speaking about race poverty, inequality in the managerial age. Our speaker this evening is Dr. Charles Murray. Dr. Murray is a social scientist and writer. He has published the book \"Losing Ground,\" \"Beyond Probation,\" and is currently working on one called \"In Pursuit.\" Dr. Murray was raised in Newton, Iowa. He then attended Harvard University, where he obtained a bachelor of arts degree in history. In 1974, he obtained a PhD from MIT. Dr. Murray spent six years in Thailand as a Peace Corps volunteer and researcher. From 1974 through 1981, he was senior scientist at the American Institute for Research. He is currently a research fellow with the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Dr. Charles Murray.\r\n\r\n- Coming in this evening, I was wondering whether we would have more than my own family here tonight. I appreciate all of you coming out. I was raised in Newton, Iowa. I should point out that I haven't lived here since 1961. Nonetheless, when I was in Australia last November, when people asked me where I was from in the States, I kept saying Iowa, until my wife did point out it had been more than a quarter century since I lived here. One does not cease being an Iowan, I guess, under any circumstances. I have been going back and forth in the last few minutes preparing for this speech, because I have a very good \"Losing Ground\" speech that I have given many times about the book \"Losing Ground.\" I have, however, finished a book called \"In Pursuit\" very recently, and I think I will stick with my original intention, which is to talk about some of the themes in \"In Pursuit.\" This is appropriate, in view of the title of the speech, which is, What Do We Want to Accomplish: Rethinking the Goals of Social Policy. That is incorrect as stated in the program, because that's what the book is about. However, I must say that this means that a great deal of what I'm going to say tonight is not going to seem immediately apparently relevant to you. Two hardheaded issues that have to be decided in next year's legislative sessions. I was asked just before I came up here if I had anything to impart about my analysis of last night's events. And the fact is I barely have anything relevant to say about the last 10 years' events. I had been grappling, first in \"Losing Ground,\" and subsequently, in the book \"In Pursuit,\" with the more basic issue, which seems to me, one that is harder and harder to escape, and that is what are we really trying to accomplish? When I got my training during the late '60s and early 1970s, we didn't have to worry about that question. During that time we knew, we assumed at least, in the social science faculties with which I was affiliated, a certain substratum of truths about why certain policies were good or bad things, and we didn't have to think very hard. We knew that fighting poverty had to be good, fighting racism had to be good, fighting inequality had to be good. What other way of looking at good and bad might there be? And since we knew what good meant, what other way of measuring progress might there be, except to measure poverty, and crime rates, and school enrollment, and unemployment? In \"Losing Ground,\" I tried to demonstrate that whether you buy my analysis of why things went wrong, one must confront the fact that beginning, in most cases, during the mid 1960s, things did start to go wrong on a number of fundamentally important indicators with which we have usually measured the welfare of poor people. And as those went wrong, we were forced to confront such questions as, if we have fewer people below the poverty line, and more people receiving food stamps, but if it also seems at the same time that we have more children growing up in families where they need food stamps, on balance, are we making progress or not? During that period, I think we also had to come more face-to-face with another kind of cost, that especially, we policy analysts, and I think more generally, people in the middle class, don't like to think about. Mitch Snyder was here Sunday, if I'm correct, and Mitch Snyder, according to the news accounts, gave a graphic account of homelessness in the United States, and ascribed a great deal of this to the Reagan Administration's vicious and thoughtless cutting of programs in public housing. One has to think about all those wonderful public housing projects we built in the 1960s and 1970s, and what happened to them. And then you have to think about something a little bit more troubling. Suppose, for example, you are a fellow living in northeast Washington, DC, and you worked in the loading dock, and you make a $15,000 a year, and you support a family, and you live in a neighborhood. And the government builds a homelessness center next door to you. Your quality of life has been drastically changed because the fact is the people that are in that shelter, or in the public housing project, don't think and act the same way you do. And if you're trying to raise kids, it makes your life a lot worse. And you can't really get around that very easily. If you want to say to yourself, \"Well, if you give decent housing to people, \"they'll start to behave in ways that will be acceptable \"to the guy from the loading dock \"trying to raise his family,\" you have a lot of empirical evidence you can go back to. You can go back and look at what happened to public housing projects in the past, and people who live in them. If you then say, \"Well, what we'll do \"is we will spread these around, \"the public housing projects, \"and we will put them in other kinds of neighborhoods.\" Now, what do you think's going to happen? I broke into laughter a couple of weeks ago reading The Washington Post. I'm afraid it was cynical laughter, because I read that the City of DC had bought a $2 million house in Georgetown to house the emotionally disturbed. And I was laughing because I thought that was just lovely. Georgetown, being a very affluent in-city neighborhood, where I'm sure a vote taken to expand the resources for the emotionally disturbed would win by 98% to 2%, but where I'm also very confident that no matter whether they paid $2 million for that house or not, they ain't gonna put any emotionally disturbed people in Georgetown, because there's going to be a lot of legal clout that will go to work to stop that from happening. Now, all I am saying to you is don't make it easy on yourself. If you feel bad about the homeless, and say, \"We ought to go out there \"and build decent housing for these folks,\" because if you think that, come to grips with the fact that you are saying it is okay to penalize certain other poor people on behalf of one set of poor people. I can see how you can rationalize that to yourself. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying come face-to-face with that price you are willing to require of some poor people in order to help others. As you think about what we are trying to accomplish, I think ultimately, one comes face-to-face with a still deeper problem, which relates to the more fundamental question, what's the point anyway? Food stamps, what are they for? They're to feed people who need food, okay? That's important, but suppose that we pass out food so freely that no young man ever has to worry about whether a child that he causes to be conceived will be fed. Would that really be a better world for children to be born into? Or we may take food stamps at large, and we may ask, \"Suppose that we made all material goods \"so freely available that parents \"could not ever again take satisfaction \"from the accomplishment of feeding, \"sheltering, and clothing their children.\" Would that really be a better world in which to be a parent? I imagine toward a large and intimidating question, and that has to do with the sources of human happiness. I've had a terrible problem in writing \"In Pursuit\" trying to answer people at parties when they asked me what my next book is about. I finally had got my wife to give me a one sentence answer, which is now the first sentence of the book, but that one sentence doesn't really get me very far, because that sentence is, \"This book is about how human beings \"pursue happiness in their lives, \"and what government can and cannot do to help.\" After, which people look at me glassy-eyed and wonder when I'm going to take on truth, and duty, and the rest of it. But the reason I have to put it that way is because happiness, which is now commonly associated with warm puppies, and books in the airport book rack that tell you how to achieve happiness in 12 easy lessons, happiness really is a very noble concept with a respectable history that has become degraded over the time. But is that thing which ultimately, social policy is supposed to serve? And if you doubt that, let me ask you to join with me in a thought experiment, which I have found to be kind of touchstone for thinking about these issues. It is a thought experiment, which concluded the book \"Losing Ground,\" and is in the early part of \"In Pursuit.\" It goes like this. Suppose that you are the parent of a small child. Child two years old, let's say. And for one reason or another, you are able to know that tomorrow you and your spouse will be run over by a bus, and you do not have the option of putting your child with relatives or friends. You only have two choices. I am going to constrain your choices in ways which you will doubtlessly think are very unfair, but I'm going to do it anyway. It's my thought experiment. The first choice is a pair of parents who are very poor. So poor that your child will be wearing hand-me-downs, probably be teased by classmates at school for his clothes. May even go to bed hungry, occasionally. Will live in very poor housing, but this set of parents will have worked hard all their lives. They will make sure your child goes to school and studies hard. They value education. They will teach your child that self-sufficiency, and integrity, and honesty are primary values. Or you may put your child with another couple who will be just as affectionate as the first couple. Affection isn't the issue. But they are incapable of overseeing your child's education. When they think about concepts like integrity and self-sufficiency at all, they think they are meaningless. But they have good shelter, and lots of food, and good clothes provided by others. They've never worked. Question is, which couple do you put your child with? Most people, in fact, the vast majority of people, sometimes very reluctantly, say that if I constrain the choices to those two choices, they will put their child with the poor couple. The question is why? What is the awful catastrophe that you were trying to prevent? Why is it that you will take your own child who you would never let go hungry, even if you had to go hungry yourself? And that's the reason why I use your own child as the example, to try to get to that point. Why would you subject your own child to years of privation? The answers you could give me might be many. You could say that you want your child to value honesty and integrity, or that you want your child to be able to identify sources of real satisfaction. But whatever words you choose, in one way or another, you will be affirming that most of all, you aspire that your child become a self-determining, autonomous adult, reaching his decisions on the basis of sound values, and realizing whatever his latent capacities may be. You want your child to be able to pursue happiness. And furthermore, you are taking these ephemeral aspects of his life and you are balancing them against the concrete, hard reality of such things as food and clothing, and you're saying, \"Well, these are even more important, \"to a certain degree, under certain circumstances, \"than the food and clothing.\" And yet, this is in the context of then turning around and going down the street to speak on issues of social policy, and saying such things as, I shouldn't put words into your mouth. Lots of people do this. I'm not sure you will. Lots of people will turn around and go down the street, and say, \"The most important thing we have to do, \"first of all, is provide for people \"to have plenty of food and plenty of shelter, \"and then we can work out the other issues.\" But you don't think that way about the people you care most deeply about. So, why think about poor people that way? The problem is having stated that we have, as a criterion of success, the pursuit of happiness, enabling people to pursue happiness, doesn't in itself got us very far. And if you're writing a book, which is not intended to be about social philosophy, but is actually intended to be about social policy, you have to have some way of getting into it. Very briefly, the way I do it is by trying to distinguish between the pursuit of happiness and the enabling conditions for doing that, and the actual achievement of happiness. I'm saying, \"Look, if you have a society \"which is run the way you want a society to be run, \"it will be one which provides people \"with the raw materials for pursuing happiness,\" in the sense I'm using that word. And whereas we cannot specify, I think it's not important to specify, the exact conditions that must prevail, we can make a few common sensical statements. For example, you can't pursue happiness if you're starving. Hardly anybody will disagree. You can't pursue happiness if you have no safety whatsoever. One of the reason human communities form in the first place is so that you may be safe from the tigers beyond the compound. There has to be some degree of predictability in the world. There has to be some degree of self-respect. Try to imagine a person utterly devoid of self-respect, who is also pursuing happiness, and I think you'll see what I mean. You have to have some sort of sense of belongingness. Not sense of belongingness. You have to have belongingness to other human beings, whether it's in the form of an intimate relationship such as a marriage, or whether it's part of being a community. And you have to have what might be called self-fulfillment or self-actualization. Some way in which you not only have self-respect, but in which you are becoming, as the Army commercial has it, \"All that you can be.\" Some way of expressing yourself. Some of you in the audience will detect the hidden hand of Abraham Maslow and his needs hierarchy in the list I've just given out, but I don't intend to defend Abraham Maslow's work as being especially necessary here. I'm saying these five conditions, material resources, self-respect, safety, belongingness, and self-actualization are all very reasonable things to worry about. And you can ask a society, what is the raw material that it ought to be providing? I then proceed in each of these cases to have chapters of 30, and 40, and 50 pages each, and I'm not going to go through all of them. Let me just give you a couple of examples of the ways in which I think this can help us frame the question, what are we trying to accomplish? Let me take self-respect as a very clear cut kind of example. How many times in the newspaper have you read an editorial involving the word dignity, in which you will have a complaint that, let's say, you have social workers who are conducting eligibility checks on welfare recipients, and this is stripping them of their dignity? You've all read things like this. Okay, let's play with this concept of dignity, and think about what it is that we really mean. Let's have a social policy which enables people to have dignity by all means, but let's quit throwing the word around loosely, and let's think about what the nature of the construct is. I think one of the best definitions of it was given by a social philosopher named Michael Waltzer. A socialist, by the way. Who says that self-respect can be distinguished from self-esteem by the nature of being an internally held value. He says, \"Look, with self-esteem, \"if enough people say that you are hot stuff, \"you can persuade yourself that you are.\" This is the kind of thing which we all try to kid ourselves into, and that's fine, but that's self-esteem, and that's external. And self-respect is somewhat different, because you only feel self-respect if you are measuring up, in his phrase, to standards of being a productive member of your community. And the crucial aspect of self-respect, in this sense, is a sense of self-possession. You always believe yourself to be able to measure up. Sometimes because of conditions beyond your control, you won't be doing it for a moment to moment, but you remain committed to doing so, and you believe yourself able to do so. Suppose that we take that definition at face value. Suppose we also say this is absolutely essential to the pursuit of happiness, as I used the phrase. And if you don't like that phrase, the pursuit of satisfactions of self-worth, and so forth. If that is really essential, how do you give someone self-respect? If it is intrinsic in the nature of self-respect that it be earned, to what extent is it immoral to have a social policy which tries to tell people that you don't have to? When we talk about stigma, and stigmatizing people, to what extent is it immoral to have a social policy that fails to stigmatize, when stigma is appropriate? Not because we want to be mean, and not because we want to save on a tax bill, but because there is a reality test that has to be applied before self-respect is real. And that reality test is, am I measuring up? And if you try to kid somebody into believing he is measuring up when he isn't, are you doing good or are you doing bad? I won't carry it on any further. I do not even pose these as rhetorical questions to which I believe the answers are simple. I am hoping that you will never again read an editorial which talks about giving people dignity, and think of it quite the same way again, because we just don't think about these terms carefully enough. But let me turn to a more pleasant example. The question of self-actualization. I don't like the phrase self-actualization. It sounds very California-ish. I would rather think of it in terms of enjoyment. The kinds of things that you look up after spending hours on it, and you say, \"Where did the time go?\" The kind of thing that when you were engaged in it, you are engaged in it not because anybody's paying you any money, not because anybody says you have to, but because you are enjoying it. You are absorbed in it, and the rest. The principle of how people enjoy themselves that I find most attractive here is what is called the Aristotelian principle. And this was stated by John Rawls, who is another person who doesn't, I think, agree with me very much politically, but who I think had a beautiful statement of what he derives from Aristotle, which goes like this. He says, \"People enjoy the exercise \"of their realized abilities, \"and the more complex or the more fully realized \"these abilities are, the more the enjoyment.\" The example he uses is chess versus checkers. He says, \"If you know how to play chess \"and you know how to play checkers, \"and you're good at both, \"you're going to enjoy playing chess more \"because that's more complex.\" The value of looking at some of these issues through these elliptical ways that I'm describing is that it makes you read all kinds of literature you wouldn't ordinarily read if you're trying to figure out how to help poor people. For example, it gets you to read some literature on intrinsic rewards, and how people establish intrinsic rewards. It gets you to read literature on what psychologists have found out about how people enjoy themselves. And guess what? It turns out that the way people enjoy themselves is when you have a balance between challenge and skills. So, to go back to the chest example, if I am playing Bobby Fisher, the challenge is far in excess of my skills, and I feel great anxiety. I do not enjoy myself. Bobby Fisher, on the other hand, has skills far in excess of the challenge, and he's bored. But if we're playing each an opponent who was within our own range, who was pushing us, then we are in that corridor in which you are enjoying yourself. But the point is this, that in fact, human beings do enjoy things in response to challenges. Well, if you apply that to issues of social policy, one has a whole set of interesting questions to ask. And one of them is, to what extent do you want to make the world so that these challenges are diminished? Clearly, you don't want the challenges to be so great that people can not meet them, but on the other hand, neither do you want them to be so uninteresting that they don't provide enjoyment. Let me move on from that, however, to try to draw some of these strands together in a broader sense. Trying to bring it back to something you may think I've left considerably behind, how do you help poor people? A couple of simple-minded statements to begin the discussion. The first is that an odd sort of way, even though we don't think of it like this, life consists of filling up time. I mean, we wake up in the morning and we go to sleep at night, and somehow, we've got to do something during all those waking hours. And if one conceives of life is filling up time in that way, what a life becomes is a choice of how you fill up time in ways which are satisfying to you. A second simple-minded statement is that the history of modernity is, to a great degree, a history of taking the trouble out of things. Electric can openers takes some of the trouble out of opening cans. Automatic shifts takes some of the trouble out of driving a car, and so forth and so on. By and large, these labor-saving, trouble-saving improvements are all welcomed. Just for the fun of it, consider social policy in that same context. Changes in the bankruptcy laws in the last few years have taken some of the trouble out of going broke, or out of incurring debts. Changes in Social Security, the establishment of Social Security took some of the trouble out of planning for your old age. The existence of aid to families for dependent children took some of the trouble out of having a child, if you do not have a man to help you support it. Sooner or later, those steps have to go too far. I say this not as an argumentative statement at all. It's not a statement of either the left or the right. It's just a fact. If you consider all the ways in which the trouble can be taken out of things, you know at some point you're going to go too far, and you're going to start to take the trouble out of the things which are the stuff of life. So, you have to stop before that point, the question is, where do you stop, and how do you decide the stopping point? And here is where I think we run into a couple of issues that people have been very embarrassed to talk about. Consider, for example, a graduate student in economics who's just getting his PhD, and the issue is how much trouble is a good thing to take out of life and social policy? And we think about the life that he's going to lead. He loves economics. He loves analyzing regression equations. He loves playing around with databases. He can get lost in this for days at a time, and he gets tenure at the age of 28. Guaranteed job for the rest of his life. Guaranteed income. He barely notices that. He is absorbed in the enjoyment of his realized capacities, which are being an economist, and the fact that he's going to have a guaranteed income doesn't have any effect on the number of hours he works, or how hard he works, or anything else. He has an enjoyable life. I think we tend to extrapolate from that, and we say, \"Well, look, you know, \"he has a guaranteed income. \"We have taken that much of trouble out of his economic life \"and it hasn't had anything to do \"with his search for satisfaction. \"Why not do that for everybody?\" And here we come to the embarrassing part, 'cause not everybody is an economist. Thank God. Not everybody is, however, exercising their realized capacities hour after hour, day after day in that kind of way. At any given moment in the United States of America, 50.0% of the population is below average in intelligence. 50.0% of the population is below average in industriousness, below average in handsomeness, below average in any quality and virtue you want to make. We don't like to think of things that way. We like to think that if only we gave everybody the right educational opportunities they'd all be brain surgeons. Well, they won't. And one of the important things that social policy has to do is to provide everybody, not just rich people, and not just smart people, and not just beautiful people with ways to pursue happiness. And you have a strange kind of upside down pyramid involved in this. We usually think of socioeconomic pyramids as having large numbers of people on the bottom, and it sort of narrows up to the top, and at the peak, you have the Mellons and the Rockefellers. Well, I'm thinking of it in a different way. Most of the people in this room, if not all, are on the upside down pyramid, we're up at the top, which is to say we have lots of different options about how to fill up our time and to enjoy our lives. I happened to become a social scientist. Had I not become a social scientist, there would've been something else that would have come up that I could have enjoyed doing. The ways in which I fill up my time are varied all over the place. I have a vast variety of choices, and I have that because I'm lucky in some respects, and other reasons that maybe have something to do with my own efforts. The fact is, I have lots of choices. Most people in this room have lots of choices. Suppose you are not especially handsome, and not especially smart, and not especially anything else. How are you gonna reach the age of 70 and look back on your life and say, \"I can be satisfied with who I have been \"and what I have done\"? And I don't mean kid yourself. I don't mean have somebody pat you on the head and say, \"You've done well.\" I mean, how can you authentically look back and be satisfied who you've been and what you've done? And I suggest to you that there are far more constrained options there. They are some of the very best options. You can say, \"I had been a good parent to my children, \"I had been a good neighbor to my neighbors.\" And I think those are the best there are. I think the economist who is spending all his time with regression equations, as he gets older, is going to rely more on those sources of satisfaction himself. But the point is for the people at the bottom of the upside down pyramid I'm talking about, those are about the only options. Question is, how do you arrange society so that, that's statements that he can make? Those are statements that he can make. In part, I have argued in \"Losing Ground\" especially, that we have through social policy, systematically seduced people into behaving ways at a certain critical period of their lives so that they can't say that. I have argued that 17, and 18, and 19, and 20 year olds, and the people in their early 20s, at the time when they need to be getting into the workforce, getting established, they're establishing families, and moving on up from that period into the later periods in their lives when a lot of the values will be more firmly established. At that particular moment in their lives we are seducing them into doing really stupid things. We are seducing young men into getting in and out of the labor market and perpetually consigning themselves to the fringes of the labor market. We are encouraging a lot of young women to end up with children when they have very little education and very few resources to take care of them, which consigns them to the fringes of society for the rest of their lives, and there's not much we can do about it. We have, however, I think done something much more pernicious, and that is we have, at the same time, taken away the functions of community which give people something important to do with their time. Edmund Burke is one of my favorites, along with Adam Smith. I think both of them were about as smart as any commentators on social policy, before or since. Edmund Burke used the very evocative phrase, \"little platoons,\" to describe the way society functions. By \"little platoons,\" he was referring to the fact that when men go into battle and do all sorts of outrageously courageous things, they very seldom are doing them directly because of their love of king and country. They may love king and country, but the reason why they are doing these things is embedded in the people in their platoon. The relationships that they have with them. That's where the first loyalties are, and everything else spreads out from them. The same is true, I think, of all of us in our lives. and as someone who has had a chance to watch as an observer some of the more glittering little platoons in Washington and New York, I can tell you they're just the same all over. In every case, they consist of relatively small numbers of people, and the kinds of relationships within them are roughly the same. But again, there's that problem with the upside down pyramid. If you are a surgeon, you have some little platoons that are important to your life that consistent of professional affiliations, and then you have the people out at the country club, which you may have to drive five miles to get to. And when you finally do go home, you don't want to live in a community. You've got plenty of communities, little communities that you function in all the time. What you want is to go home to your two acre lot in the suburbs where you can be free from all of these aspects of community. If you work in the loading dock, your little platoon is much more likely to consist of the immediate geographic area in which you live, and it's likely to continue to be that. Question, how do you have that immediate geographic area be a vital, functioning community, filled with the stuff of life again? Birth, and death, and commiseration of the people who are bereaved, and celebration with people who have things to celebrate, helping those who are hungry, comforting those who are sick. How do you have a community which functions in that way? And I suggest to you, you only get it if the community has something to do, and the community has to know that it is on the hook for doing it. If you have a church which says to its parishioners, \"Here are 10 families that need food, \"and if we don't feed them, nobody else will,\" then you have a basis for an energized, vital, active church, feeding people in its community. If the situation is that the church says, \"We have these 10 families that could use some food, \"and they're going to get some from the government. \"It would be nice if we gave them some, too, \"or if we acted as a distribution point for the food,\" the urgency is gone, and so is the vitality of that little platoon. I am not talking about how to feed people best here. I'm talking about the vitality of the community. And the reality test is that if the community does not have those functions to fulfill, that community will become the kind of atomized community, which characterizes so many urban areas in the United States. So many smaller cities and smaller towns, as well. And that a great deal of what we had done in social policy by vitiating the vitality of these little platoons, is to importantly affect the quality of life of the people who live in them. Now, what does all this have to do with poverty? I mean, can I prove to you that if I had my way, which would be to decentralize the functions of social welfare, that we would have fewer hungry children, and we would have more people with jobs, and the people who were still in need would be better taken care of? No, I can't prove it. And here, we run into, I think, the power of the plan in late 20th century America, because you see, you can give me a plan which says, \"We will have a food stamp program \"which feeds every hungry child in America. \"I can prove it. \"Here it is. \"It's 80 pages long, fine print, \"and I can just tell, you name me a child in any city \"in the United States and I'll tell you \"exactly how that child will be fed.\" And all I can do is say to you, \"You know? \"I've never met anybody \"who doesn't want to feed hungry children.\" I have never met anybody who would refuse food to a hungry child if he encountered him. And all I want to do is to have a system in which hungry children are brought together with the people who are naturally going to want to feed them, but I can't prove that it's going to work. However, I think it is also true that it's about time that we recognize the bankruptcy of the plan, because whereas you can have plans for feeding every hungry child in America, we seem to have a problem of a lot more children that need to be fed than we've had in the past. We have lots more parents who are incompetent parents to their children than we've had in the past. And the problem that is presented to us is not just one of meeting the needs that are arising, it is also one of preventing them from arising in the future. And so, if there is some applicability of what I'm saying to actually reducing the problems of poverty, I guess it is this. That what I am saying has a lot more application to both sides of that issue. That I think that the only way you are going to prevent some of these problems from arising in the future is if you have more people who are saying, in the case of the hungry child, \"Yes, we're gonna feed this hungry child, \"and you, the parent, if you are a parent \"who can't feed this child because you need a job, \"and can't get a job and the rest of it, \"we're going to help you get one, \"and we're not gonna do it as part of the bureaucracy. \"We're gonna do it because we are connected to you \"more intimately than that.\" Or if it's a parent who just hasn't been paying enough attention, you're going to have more people saying, \"Get on the ball,\" in some very harsh, stigmatizing, and effective language. Language that bureaucrats cannot possibly emulate. Adam Smith, my other favorite, besides Edmund Burke, liked thought experiments, too, and I will conclude with one of his that I think captures a great deal of what I've been trying to say. He imagines the situation of a man who hears that all of the population of China has been swallowed up in an earthquake. This is a civilized man living in London, and Adam Smith asks, \"What is that man going to do?\" And he says, \"Well, first of all, he will reflect, \"being a humane man, on the terrible tragedy, \"and express his sorrow at it. \"And he will probably meditate a little \"on the fragility of life, \"and perhaps, if he is of such a mind, \"he will consider the effects of this great tragedy \"on trade and commerce between Europe and the Far East.\" And having delivered himself of all of these humane and kind sentiments, he will go home and sleep as soundly as if nothing had ever happened. And he will do that not because he is cruel and heartless, but because they are after all, in China, and he is in London, and they are very far removed from him. And if there were someone with the slightest hurt that were within his more immediate range, he would react much more strongly than he does to the millions of people that have died in China. I think what we have done in social policy is consigned poor people in this country to a kind of China. And we are satisfied when we sign our 1040 forms that at least we're trying hard, and we're paying people to go out there and take care of these problems for us. And that this has not only proved to be an illusion, it has not only proved to be a dodge, I think the victims have not only been those people who have been poor and in need, who need not have been, the victims have also, in a larger sense, been ourselves. Thank you very much. I'm not going anywhere. Questions? Questions and argumentation, and feel free to raise issues that I did not raise in the speech because I skipped a lot of the things which I have written about in the past. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Let's suppose that you were to organize a social policy reform. Inner city . And I think, actually, I mean, a lot of what you said sociologist William Julius Wilson . And part of the creation of some of these neighborhoods that you described in essence, no people who have hope for the future are a part of public policy . We concentrated all poor into a neighborhood. We tore down whole neighborhoods, built up neighborhoods, and excluded middle class from those neighborhoods, so the only people who are gonna be there are people who, in essence, are are somehow removed the normal, whatever the normal life in the United States . The normal aspirations in the United States would be. But now, you've got this neighborhood.\r\n\r\n- It's there. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So, I think that what you're saying is we shouldn't have built that neighborhood in 1960, but now you've got that neighborhood there. How do you go about reinstilling this notion of a neighborhood in a ?\r\n\r\n- In part, I have to say about such questions, that when I say that I am pessimistic and I don't have any workable solutions, I'm doing no more than telling you the truth. I don't have any workable solutions that we can implement easily. But nonetheless, let me tell you that the kinds of steps I would take, I would first say that even in that south side Chicago neighborhood, some of which I've worked in, in the past myself, it is not true that everybody's a homogeneous mass even now. There has been the kind of phenomenon that Wilson describes, but you still have lots of different kinds of folks there. And you find a lot of the folks in south Chicago where you have a woman who's trying to hold down two jobs, and raise her kids, and the rest of it. So, I think the first thing you do is say, \"Look, we don't know how to deal \"with a lot of the chronically unemployed. \"We don't know how to deal with a lot of the kids in school \"who won't pay attention to this.\" When I say we don't know how, I mean that quite literally. We have not had any strategies that worked very well. However, we know very well how to help women like that. Not with money, but what you help them with is if they got kids, you let them send their kids to a school that is run according to the way they would like to see a school run. We know how to do that. We know how to teach kids who come to school ready to learn, and she's raising her kids to come to school ready to learn. Let's let her send her kids to that kind of school. And how do you do that? You give her a voucher. You give her the same choice that the middle class uses for their kids. And as I have said in an earlier conversation this evening, I have some hope that you could mobilize the majority around this. I don't know why I have that hope, because voucher systems are regularly voted down by huge margins, but it seems to me that the injustice of it is so palpable. I mean, when the middle class people either go to suburbs where they control the schools, or if they live in the cities, they send their kids to private schools, and we know that the public schools in large cities are so awful because of some really stupid things that they do. Why not let poor parents have freedom of choice in that regard? Another thing I would do in the inner city of Chicago is I would let people congregate where they will, using non-economic resources to do so. One of the things the reforms did was to take out of the hands of poor people a lot of their non-economic bargaining power. Which is to say, prior to the 1960s, if I were a poor person going to rent an apartment, and I walked into the landlord's office and presented myself as a person who'd been regularly employed, and I have a family, and the last place I lived, I always paid my rent, I had a much better shot of getting that apartment than somebody who has the same current income, but who walks in unable to present those kinds of qualifications. A lot of what we did was to impede that kind of natural congregating by social class, if you want to talk about that. Social class, not economic class, 'cause you have all sorts of social classes within the same economic class. I'm saying let the folks who want to live this way, to gather. Let them live together. Let them form neighborhoods within south side Chicago. 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That was such a long answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43403/file/116294#t=100.94,102.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43403/file/116294/transcript/28236/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I promise to be shorter in next ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43403/file/116294#t=102.06,104.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43403/file/116294/transcript/28236/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Well I didn't expect that you and I would 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There is one thing that this economy does not spew out in such abundance anymore, and that is cheap, good housing. And having asked myself that question I would then say, well, if I try to build cheap good housing in South side Chicago I'm gonna lose my shirt. And the reason I'm going to lose my shirt is because I won't be able to discriminate among tenants. I won't be able to evict tenants because their eviction laws which mean I'm going to have to wait six eight months. If somebody is trashing the apartment it's going to take me a long time to get them out of there. And I have no recovery of what I've lost and furthermore there's gonna be rent controls so I can't raise the rent. So I most certainly am not going to build low-income housing. I get rid of all of those laws. In all of my reforms, I would try to do things which build upon things we already know how to do. We know how to educate kids who are ready to be educated. We know how to have low crime in areas where people can take control of their own environment. We know how to do all sorts of things for people who have certain kinds of assets, you start out social policy by saying, there are a whole bunch of poor people who have all these assets let's let them take advantage of them. And I think that you have a spinoff effect from that. I think that you also reduce the number of people who don't fit that category. I think you have a seduction of the people who don't behave that way into the group of people that do but that's a that's, that's almost serendipitous. Sorry. That was such a long answer. I promise to be shorter in next ones.\r\n\r\n- Well I didn't expect that you and I would have anything in common when I came here. I'm a full bred existentialist and pluralist philosopher. My question, I guess what I want to know is why is somebody put a center for the homeless in my neighborhood? Why this would frighten me and further more, why if I had resources to do that If I go on online charts and sales and get my license to get that job, Why wouldn't one of them do things like say take the homeless person in with them?\r\n\r\n- Because if you have a center for the homeless next door to you, you are going to have people, for example, vomiting on your front steps you are going to have when your daughter, when you're, when you're, when you're when your daughter walks out. You know, I think that, I think that in this case you are having a romanticized view of what homeless people are like.\r\n\r\n- Probably not. I was homeless for about three days.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Three days don't count, you know?\r\n\r\n- It counted for me, I don't know if you've ever been homeless.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. I have to, for three days, but the problem is, no the problem is, listen, listen, I don't need we don't need to argue about this. We can go to homeless centers around the country and you are going to have, you are going to have people hassling you. When you walk down the street, you are going to have people people making your neighborhood miserable. You see, these are not in homeless centers, filled with folks who are just a little bit down on their luck and all they need is a hand up and everything's going to be okay. You have lots of problems, sometimes psychiatric problems which, which aren't their fault in the sense that they're mentally ill. But, but the notion that, of course you could have a homeless center next door to you because after all these are just folks, is just simply crazy.\r\n\r\n- I guess what I don't understand is why should I worry about this anymore than I worry about say getting grabbed by ?\r\n\r\n- Because, because you don't have kids because you don't have kids. If you have, if you have a five-year-old daughter you're going to worry in a way that you don't worry now. And, and in that sense but I think that's a legitimate distinction. And so if you want to live in a neighborhood which has a place for the homeless next door to you fine, but don't say that everybody else should feel the same way you do. You're in a very special situation.\r\n\r\n- You can move, it's a free country.\r\n\r\n- If you have money you can move you see if you can have money, you can move. And if you have money, you can keep the thing from being built there in the first place. If you're poor, you can't, that's my whole point. Yeah. I'm saying that quit, quit fooling yourself into thinking you're just doing good. And you're helping those folks. And you aren't penalizing other poor folks cause you are penalizing other poor forks.\r\n\r\n- I'll ask a different question You mentioned Brook and Smith two of your heroes, but it also seems to me that, I heard a great deal of Aristotle throughout your talk. The basic notion of happiness and the idea of community and finding one's actualization in a community The problem with Aristotle seems to me that Aristotle was talking about a very small community. His own city was maybe 25,000 citizens. What I'm wondering is it just seems that the forces at work that are destroying communities in the United States are so massive and so diverse. It's not simply a matter of the way we seduce certain kinds of poor people in communities. The forces seem to work their way all through the society. That I'm so puzzled by your talk. I sort of kept going in and out of your talk sometimes you seem remarkably utopian, almost asking for a return to the type of world Aristotle is talking about, where you get such satisfaction even if you're not a Philosopher. But having a family and having a neighbor. And other times you seem to be a hard-core realist. And I'm not exactly sure what my question is, but that's okay, I ask you to respond to that.\r\n\r\n- Which am I? Let me suggest another way of looking at this. And one is, that the existence of community has never been particularly impeded by large metropolises. That in fact, whether you're talking about ethnic communities at the turn of the century whether you're talking about you can just name it you name the large city, even contemporary cities like Bangkok, which I happen to know very well which is six or eight, 7 million people are just is just a mosaic of little communities. And they exist very easily within larger urban areas. In some ways they are even facilitated by it. And in part, I plead guilty to the utopian aspect but another part of it says, well, wait a minute. We tend to think, I think too glibly that the changes of the last century have made it more difficult rather than easier to have a very decentralized kind of system. Just a couple of quick examples it's much easier to be mobile today technologically than it was a hundred years ago. It's easier to change your job. It's easier psyched to get rid of a spouse. It's easier to, to, to move physically. It's easier to get information about situation a distant remove so you don't have to sort of throw everything and walk off the cliff and hope you can find something when you go into the wilderness. It's much easier to move. A second aspect is that one of the big problems in the past I think was small tyrannies that, that community has some disadvantages to it too. You know, there's go for prairie If you read St. Claire Lewis, but also there is the kind of tyranny that existed, let's say in the Southern town where you used the police to enforce social norms, illicit use of force. Well, one of the things that that modern communications have done is provide a very effective, efficient ombudsman and sort of always looking for the feature story which is wonderful for the six o'clock news to expose malfeasance and malpractice and things like that. So without trying to push it too far, yes I tend to be utopian in some ways, but in other ways a lot of what I'm talking about is decentralization. And in many ways, decentralization is much easier more possible now than it was before.\r\n\r\n- A lot of what you say makes sense. What disturbs me is what you didn't say and what I have never heard said within this administration. And that is that there is a moral comparative to help people that either can't help themselves or aren't helping themselves. There is some kind moral responsibility for us in a civilized society to not make their lives worse and you talked about taking all the trouble away. Well a weakness I think from this administration is making more and more trouble. Gentrifying our many areas kicking poor and working poor people out of the places that they live. And this hasn't been said that, yes There are these problems. A Lot of the stuff we did in the sixties didn't work. But no where did you say, or anyone else say, let's do something.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but, but, but sympathize with my point of view too. Look, in the sense, in the sense about doing good. And I think that if it, in my talk it did not come across that I think there was a moral imperative then I should probably be explicit but I would've thought I'd sort of permeated the talk in some way, but you see when you talk about doing good, you folks who disagree with me have an advantage over me because you see, I believe down to the soles of my feet, that a lot of what you consider doing good is terribly pernicious and it's producing a great deal of harm. There is no place for me to go if we had a system in which it was decentralized and which it was not done on the federal level, then you could move to a city which ran things your way. And I could move to a city which ran things my way. As it stands, I have no choice whatsoever, but to be complicit than a national system that I think is creating the very kinds of suffering we're both talking about. And so if when one says there is a moral imperative to do good, unfortunately I think that has absolutely zero concrete implications for national action, even though it has very important implications for individual action. Yes?\r\n\r\n- I have to agree with some of those that you mentioned also, but I think that you did skip over verifying about these problems before the welfare system. You know, something is happening and that's why all these things that we're all studying . And those things are not just invented in the sixties, they were all there .\r\n\r\n- Yeah. And we also had an underclass. So from time immemorial all of these things preexisted, the question is degree. And... Go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead and finish. That's all right. I didn't mean to interrupt\r\n\r\n- I think in the sixties the U.N. united that would probably have been a good idea. Except that we were struggling and trying to have guns and butter at the same time. And the United States has gotten too much of our money is going to the federal government so to destabilize cultural welfare I think you'd you'd have to decentralize the excess defense, go to the building agency to keep those communities to declare this defense is excess then they, so that we can help our money back to this community. Still lost some of its services because the money is gone to the federal government. Not just the social realm, but in fact the government. And that is, so the question probably is decentralization of both the excess defense and the excess social welfare that you pick up. And I think that . And these things provide no shelter, welfare, no money you're paying for it. So, control the communities' resource you try thinking the defense is more so than the social realm there. Or at least, we'll say equal these two.\r\n\r\n- Well, since I'm so sympathetic to the notion of decentralization that I'd like to leave it there I guess I will make though, the observation that, that when one considers what are the functions that has to be formed by the national state, as opposed to communities? The classic example of the kinds of things, which have to be monopolized by the state, our police power in any state and for the nation as a whole, the defense of the country, because you can't, you can't be you can't defend a tumble. And I know so, so if you're talking about excess and if you're saying we have to work to make the national debate on defense one in which there is greater control that we can exert over how the defense is construed. That's fine. I have no problem with that. When you start to talk about decentralizing defense, then I say, well, that's, that's one of the only things that is not divisible, that where, as of so things like feeding people are highly divisible, defending the country isn't. So it's in a different kind of category.\r\n\r\n- In my past few years I was too honored to go to countries, the Philippines and Cost Rica and I know you've talked more about domestic problems, but I'd like to quote. They're a good example. The Philippines has and as you can imagine, it's a very, very underdeveloped country, people starving to death. And the government was and isn't doing very much to build positive lives. And in Costa Rica you had less of highly developed social welfare system. There is national healthcare, there is highs controls on food stamps and the government plays a more active role in helping people take a better call to life, which they have. They're in the middle class atmosphere, even though they are experiencing poverty and the rich. But there's much, the cost of life is much higher and which you seem to be saying that we should, the government should, step away and let people, you know, assume this responsibility so, the examples say, but in this case with Costa Rica, the federal government taken an active role has really helped people obtain a better life. I think I would argue for a more federal, you know, government intervention.\r\n\r\n- This is the first time I've ever gotten Costa Rica instead of Sweden. And that kind of question and I don't know anything about Costa Rica. I do know something about Thailand about the Philippines. And I would say the Philippines make my point in a very important way. The Philippines is not neutral in the lives of the people in the Philippines. The Philippine government is very repetitious. It runs a very, very corporate estate which systematically lutes the country. And I lived for six years in a country named Thailand in which the government was not surreptitious. And in fact, left the village is much more to themselves and left the people much more to themselves. And you had in the Thailand with the virtually no social services and no centralized medical services and the rest of it to speak up. You had, you had a pretty good system going so I'd say, well, gee I've got a big country in Thailand that does pretty well. But I guess the more important statement I would make is Costa Rica is real small.\r\n\r\n- So is El Salvador and Guatemala and...\r\n\r\n- And no I'm saying, I'm saying that, that Costa Rica is the size of a fair-sized city. Okay. And I have a lot more optimism about small units being able to get away with things than I do about large units. That the larger and more complexity and it gets the more the kinds of problems that are associated with, with with federal action that I'm talking about prevail because you get, you, you get further and further away from what you have in a very small unit which something very akin to municipal services.\r\n\r\n- But in the past we compared Costa Rica, then let's say Honduras country. What else with an equal sized population where the government in that country is awesome in doing...\r\n\r\n- But you're talking about Hacienda systems. You're talking, you know, I'm not saying, I am not saying that governments without social services are going to preside over societies, which are terrific. I'm talking about free societies. And if you can point to a really free society in Latin America, tell me about it. There aren't any. Just like somebody I haven't called on.\r\n\r\n- Upon whose shoulders, would you take responsibility for the care for those in society who truly can not care for themselves? Like the chronically mentally ill.\r\n\r\n- On whose shoulders, meaning what unit of government?\r\n\r\n- Or is there a church or private society?\r\n\r\n- My own. I mean, it's, it's it, this the kind of thing which would you don't, you don't say there is an appropriate locus of society to take care of it. You take care of it by whatever arrangements are most appropriate, given the specific time, context, location, the rest of it. And I guess a lot of what I am saying goes back to the contrast between the plan and what happens. And I would argue that a lot of the best approaches say to taking care of the chronically mentally ill we don't even have any idea of what they would be until we say to folks, you know, the care of the chronic chronically mentally ill is on your backs. That means everybody. And, and you are going to have a, a kind of response which is much more flexible, much more effective than if we say, well, we ought to have a state mental hospital and let's, let's pass a law to have a state mental hospital.\r\n\r\n- Your earlier, alluding to homeless sort of fit the stereotype we all have of alcoholics and mental patients, but what about this new class of homeless that we hear so much about, the lower-middle class families and children. They had a job and lost it. They have no, they lost their homes probably because they say how can we fend whatever we do. Can you make a distinction between this sort of lower, this strata of homeless, the sort of sub class of the stereotypical homeless person in these former working, middle-class people who lost their jobs. Who you may not mind having live next door to you in a homeless shelter. Do you make a distinction there?\r\n\r\n- Well, I certainly make a distinction in nature of behavior. Let me quickly say that there is no more ill studied population than the homeless. I've heard also a lot about the new homeless we're talking about. And I've had people call me up and saying giving me specific cases examples that they were, you know journalists who were working on it. And I started asking more questions about these cases and it is absolutely remarkable. The lack of curiosity that people have about the cases where by when you start to ask, well, why is it that he's without a job and what's this, what's that and the other thing, that somehow these homeless start to look a lot more like the earlier homeless. However, to the extent that you have that different population they're susceptible to different kinds of solutions. And so if you say, yeah would I mind having them next door the same way or if I were poor would I mind have having them next door the same way I would someone who was drunk all the time? No, of course not. And there are ways that you could, you could have public policy to reflect that. I think I've, we're at nine 15. And let me take one more question. And after that, I'll be glad to hang around and chat with anyone who wants to chat. Yes.\r\n\r\n- This was real quick in terms of local, at least in the past when it was a local authority that could control education, you would define the local authority based on wealth. So you would have a school that was very good that would, that wealthy people could go to. And then poor neighborhoods would have poor schools. Therefore we broaden the definition of the relevant neighborhood for the schools. So you would have state legalization. And of course the national efforts to remove laws. Which would restrict whites to go to white schools and blacks to go to black schools. And so forth. Which eventually created a national neighborhood that had responsibility for guaranteeing some notion of equal opportunity for education. Now, what is the definition? I mean, would education still be a national responsibility within your context? Or would you prefer the local authorities?\r\n\r\n- Well, you see it's not a national responsibility now, but, but let me, let me state without worrying about that, that issue. It seems to me that the reforms are a perfect case of saying we are going to have state equalization. And the reality is, the reality is right now that we have a much more strict stratification by by economic class than we have ever had before that even though there are lots of parents such as myself who would prefer that our children go to a mixed kind of school, a heterogeneous school we also above all want them to go to a good school. And you can't have both these days because you aren't talking about a neighborhood which may draw from a partially low-income neighborhood to get kids. You end up either in a private school which is very homogeneous or out in a suburb which is quite distant from the city and very homogeneous. And if you look at the actual placement of kids in schools, this equalization stuff is just a fraud it's it hasn't happened. And things have gotten more stratified rather and more unequal than otherwise. I'll call it off here and thank you very much. I have enjoyed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43403/file/116294#t=0.0,1374.30204"}]}]}]}