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We are regarded as a fairly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2804.3,2807.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"objective organization one that uh hopefully they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2807.48,2812.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have trust in. And we don't have a political bias","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2812.1,2816.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or we don't have a commercial advocacy. We are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2816.63,2821.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"selling a product. 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And I think that's extremely crucial","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2841.44,2845.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we preserve that. Now you one that's that's a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2845.43,2848.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"statement of belief but I think it's extremely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2848.82,2851.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important to preserve that not let happen. 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You are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2863.76,2866.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"deregulation and their credibility in the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458#t=2866.66,2871.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104458/transcript/21882/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could do it. 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The date is May 25th. And this is in Ames Iowa. That maybe you could start out and you could talk a little about your background. I know that your Navai one friend. Tell us where you were born where you went to school and something about early life. Born in Roffe Township Franklin County which is now you see this Hampton and we were born actually I was born about eight miles northeast of there one of two sons the youngest of two sons Lloyd and Alice from and on the farm where my mother had actually been born and uh went to school on the corner of that farm for seven and a half years. And then uh transferred to the Hampton School system where I finished eighth grade in high school. And during that time was uh in for each work from the very time. I actually I have to admit I started to eat my first for a club gap when I was nine but I was ten with the time it got to the county fair so I could kill it. And uh we had a very uh rich life as far as um extension was concerned. It meant a lot to us though. Uh I was born in nineteen twenty six. And so you figured that out. We were in my childhood. Just coming out of the depression. We weren't sure we were out of it. I can remember. Five cent bobs and 11 cents a bushel for corn. And uh so we didn't. And we were we farmed a quarter section and uh it was a family farm in the true sense of the word livestock crops. Uh uh. And we did not have. We were not the first to get a tractor farm. A lot with horses and. And uh better own cattle out and raise grown POB seconds. And I'm guessing you've never had chickens at that. That's right. That was her. That was her finding one with the egg denied being the youngest of two boys was assigned to help her take care of the chickens and the garden and that sort of thing. But it was uh enriched by a lot of things that extension did for it. Uh I remember of course that uh although we had a 32 volt plant uh um uh my childhood nineteen thirty nine we really felt we were living because extension then the RTA brought power to our farm. We had our first refrigerator and it it really is another way to um. We had good strong extension staff one of whom was more sold. And dad was the president of the County Farm Bureau for five years. And that was what amounted to the extension council in those days. And uh so we had the benefit of frequent interaction with the extension staff. Uh they helped this. Yes. Improve our farming practices but a lot more to them. Great agency was called and frequently on our home and helping to improve both how we lived and how we uh manage our resources. We see mother uh a local leader. Yes she was both mother and dad and the 4-H leaders were. I don't know. I would be guessing. That must've been fifteen twenty years. And my older brother than followed. Dad is the local for each leader. And of course in that day they had the farm bureau women's groups and would still exist. But they were so closely allied the extension of that time you could hardly tell them apart. And so he was a local leader in that and uh benefited a great deal from that. I was thinking the other day uh we were talking about uh banning Buchanan and that that uh whole era of uh music camps during the thirties. And I can remember as part of that farm your women's group mother brought home those uh records uh uh appreciation. And we'd spent some winter nights listening to those. We had a Victrola. We were fortunate listening to those you know identifying them. So just in many ways I feel so indebted to the extension service for. GRUBIN Are both our economic and our. Social quality of life. I have to ask did you ever ever get an. Well I think you might someday be in charge of this whole operation. Not in my wildest dreams. In fact I um really. The thing that again came out of that I know how mother uh was very hopeful that her two boys would go on to get a degree at Iowa State University. That was what extension agents had and particularly for you. They could almost walk on water you know no matter who it was. They were so nice young men. So uh I was I was pretty uh uh pleased to be able to fulfill that expectations. He was pleased. But no in fact I remember the day that it was announced that I would be the next director. I called her um within the hour. And you know that's wonderful that's wonderful that she was able to see that you fear that. So you get a 10 1 in for age then. Would you describe yourself as being quite an employee. I was active before age. I would have to say that I was uh. You know I never went to the borage Club Congress. I wasn't one of those uh high achievers in that sense. Um the local and county officer. And we had lots of projects. Uh we started out in what they call Club D\u0026B then. But before it was all over had sheep and uh dairy heifers in the effort. Dad was a livestock man and he. We're very pleased and helpful in that regard. So active in for AIDS in that sense. You know we thought it was important to do well in the competition but I never failed to state their grand champion. I think you get it down Steve. That's right Nancy. I missed you. That's right. It started out in animal science back. That's like my dream. Then I ended up in the last couple of years. I'd been in the Navy in the meantime. And so I had the four and a half years of G.I. Bill. So I ended up taking up a lot of coursework in communications and journalism life which had a major influence on my later election to go on. That's really excellent journalism and communications. So if you if you work at CNN you go right on. You know um we got married the day I graduated to Lucy Retter uh who was a uh for a year from Desperate Gobby who had shown a champion at the Iowa State Fair and got on the show reserve the champion at the International Livestock Division both of us with red for background. We got married and I went into farm service broadcasting with JDL. Oh I've been fortunate enough to win a scholarship with WMP under uh. Chuck Lister who was a well-known armed broadcaster in that day and was later killed in a car accident but I had that experience. We weren't very. About a year at dade's Yellow. And then I went to the Washington D.C. as a information specialist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture not with the extension service. Now you're about to see in March of 1951 we went to Washington and we were there for about two and a half years and that. You know uh at that point uh we went to North Dakota Agricultural College later became a state university to teach half time in uh communications and uh work part time in television production. Uh they were actually given time on a three on three commercial station for the university. Need somebody to do that. And it was after I'd been there for. A couple of years that I worked on my master's degree and got that at the state and then uh in nineteen fifty nine I started work on a BHB at Michigan State. That's more years than we should have but we finally got that. I that the story you came to. Thank you. Uh fairly fairly shortly. Yes actually uh uh. I came here in the summer of uh August 1966 and I was still writing my dissertation at that point. But uh it was about complete so that I got the degree. In the next few months after that. OK. I came back here as uh the associate director of alumni affairs uh under Red Baron. Who then. Um retired uh I think uh probably a year and a half later and I became director of alumni there following them. And then you were in that position for many years. I was in that position until April 1st of 1971 when I came over to first of all as an assistant dean of university extension and assistant director of the co-operative. Thank you for. Maybe this would be a good time to talk about some terms. Now you just. Associate dean of Iowa State University extension. Right. And then you use another term we can continue to do this. Yes. The uh I think uh a I was not on the campus that I'm I'm fairly sure of my facts that one of the first things that Dr. Parks did when he became president of Iowa State was to uh reorganize the extension the outreach functions into university extension. And essentially what that did in my interpretation was to say that uh he thought that as a land grant university uh we ought to have an outreach function which was as broad as the university ought to deliver the investment of the benefits of the investment uh that Iowans had whether it be in agriculture or engineering or one of the other colleges. So the lead up to the Board of Regents and they approved uh in 1966 the formation of university extension which would include the Cooperative Extension Service was then called Engineering Extension Service the Center for Industrial Research and Service which had been formed in nineteen sixty three I believe it was out of the Technical Services Act. And then subsequently although it probably doesn't show up in the regents minutes just a couple of years later they took what had been uh the uh short course office and the College of Agriculture that are in depth and had one run when I was a student here and with George Deibert would then running and establish that as a fourth unit called at that time I think courses and conferences the off the courses and conferences eventually that emerged into the Office of Computing Education which is now the Kaemi. And so it came in 1960. That came in sixty six and then uh uh in nineteen seventy one. Uh Dr. Anderson asked me if I would be interested in coming over to pursue both both responsibilities. And what that really said is that I would have responsibility within the Cooperative Extension Service as an assistant director and uh a broader responsibility uh to contribute to the overall administration and leadership of the university extension. In addition to that. Can you tell me something about the large. It started in 1971. What what particular responsibility this in a more specific way. Okay. Uh there was a period there in 1971 where uh by agreement the doctor Anderson suggested that there were two assistant themes. The other one I succeeded Lee Olmer when when he was an assistant being he resigned to go to Oregon as the associate dean of agriculture and and uh the director of their Cooperative Extension Service associate. I forget which the title was at that point. So actually I was his successor as the assistant the dean of university things and the other assistant dean with Chuck Dunholm Karlovy Duno who had been a long time uh extension. Snapper and so there were two of us and worked closely with Marvin Anderson and speak your question. We agreed that for a while we started work as a team and see what kind of division of labor made sense. Well within a few months five or six we agreed that uh Chuck non-Hollywood would take major leadership in the area of agriculture and natural resources and that I would work with uh uh maybe more closely with three other programs. I would be the state program leader for community resource development. And I would work also uh uh in coworker relationship with uh. At that time C.J. Gallagher who was state leader before age and youth and uh with um Louise Rosenfeld who at that time was a statement of home economics. Very soon he was succeeded by Margaret Yoder. So I actually ended up working with Louise for a very short time but I was sort of the administrative liaison with the dean's office for for those uh those two programs and gave leadership the unit of resource development uh or a period of uh. Well I would think that maybe for about three years uh and then Ron Powers joined our staff here and the bond between the CRB leader. But the answer to your question. That was a general division of responsibility between Jack Duncan myself. Now that maybe is looking more closely. I keep them on the inside. You know how the responsibility would be divided. If I can ask you now to sort of step outside of that. We'll take a few steps back and maybe with the knowledge that you that you had because of the word give some kind of an O. Oh the extension service. I would state beginning say about 1970. Okay. Um the reason I ask that is so. Frequently you can identify a particular time period. Certain activities certain changes in programs. I'm sure for example when we get to the point we need the farm crisis. Well well off color much of which you would say about responsibilities. And going back to 1970. How would you describe the state extension service. Any recent problems that might be in their cars by finding a cure. Changes in program. Changes in direction. Okay. I think I think I can speak to that. Uh one of the things that I uh remember was happening at that particular time. They had at the national level just done. Another one of what turned out to be study the came almost every 10 years. And this was the fault of people in spirit. And I remember that was one of the first documents I read at that time. And I was so impressed with what the the gist of that was at a national level. They were saying that we needed to look broadly at the needs of society. And and um I remember there was a document that people left behind and I can't even remember who authored that. But the point is that they were becoming more aware as a national extension system about um across the land. Some people that had not perhaps been served by thinking who maybe could benefit more than anyone else. Now some of these people to be sure we're in the southern states because affirmative action was was emerging at that time out of the 60s and came into the. More requirements and regulations at that time. So there was there was very much an increased emphasis on not only affirmative action but on uh what I would say implementing a social conscience so to speak. And some of the programs that came out of that time where the expanded Food and nutrition education program which is focused on better nutrition for low resource families particularly families with children that got its start in about nineteen sixty eight moved into Iowa maybe in sixty nine on a national funding basis and continues today. And that had a quota for each component in a family living component. And again in that period of time I think this was probably funded by the federal partner uh about seventy two or seventy three and work with urban youth which had been rather new for for the Collaborative Extension Service. But essentially Congress said to the extension system go do an urban Detroit for example. What you've been doing out there on the farm with you. Was a long hot summers of the early 70s that they were really responding to. And so this was really something of a mandate so to speak. Exactly. Yeah. That the money was clearly earmarked with guidelines that you either did that or you didn't get the money and most of it did find ways of doing that. So we went into you know cities like the Moine and Waterloo and Cedar Rapids and The View and in Davenport and Council Bluffs and and got acquainted with new audiences. And that was not easy. We didn't understand some of the different but there was a lot of change going on in both the definition of what our our priorities were as well as what kinds of competency we needed. And I think that had a definite impact on you know some of those competencies were in the social and behavioral sciences. There was an understanding what what how you communicate and how you accomplish a social change if you will with more than farm audience. We've we studied social change with with rural audiences for a long for a long time. And so we got into a lot of frontier activity. I'm sure you've heard this. One of the things that. It's creeping up in what I read is that. And I think this goes back to an early day extension in the time with Farm Bureau that extension was just for the successful people people that extend really didn't care about the poor. And it strikes me same sort of um recognizing needs that hadn't been met in the 60s and 70s with the lower income movement and the nutrition if that wasn't really maybe a move in that direction. Yeah I think I think that was and it was not about thrusted for the very reason you talked about. There was there were some that felt well. Your feeling of acceptance. You know because uh. You used to spend all your time with us and now you're you're dividing your time. And uh I wouldn't say that that is all completely behind us but I think we're operating in quite a different environment. But uh that was that was part of the environment in which we're doing things trying I guess. Now I'm I'm talking from Administrator Foster. We were trying to respond to those uh not only mandates but what we felt were probably morally and ethically. Right. Uh the publicly supported institution but trying to do so uh and bring along the people who had felt a high degree of ownership and uh direction on this system to help them understand. And I think there was a lot of that was accomplished because the victory in Iowa. I still feel that Iowans are very. Have been during my entire life have a high value on education and also are very compassionate people. And they want to help those who are less fortunate themselves by and large for working with. Groot's wasn't easy. I remember having experienced myself uh as part of an in-service training. With a plan by which I could remember who did it because they had to get credit for it said one of the things we need to do. We need to go down and walk the low income streets of the mall. And so for three days we went down there and I remember we stayed in the Sabria Hotel and uh we did some we had some people in from the Southeast Bottoms and from the agencies that worked with the. The urban poor and minority groups in the light to help us understand where they were coming from and there was still confronting spirit involved in all of that. And after we had spent some time doing our homework then we actually did go down and we knocked on doors on an individual Kathie's. You bet. On an individual basis. I can remember I when I walked one street that was my assigned street and we'd walk up the door knock and take the lectern and visit a little bit and just get a feeling for not just whether they knew about the extension service or you. You probably raised that question somewhere. But try to find out what what was on their problem with what was on their agenda is quite different than most of us would have appreciated. You were able to respond. Only partially. I think that that we probably responded to some of our best responses were and that's the expanded food nutrition education program because we went to a staffing pattern that hired people out of those communities raised their level of under the paraprofessional level of understanding and sent them back out to work with their neighbor. That that model I think has proven itself may not be an inexpensive model but I think it's an effective model and we have research to support that. I think we were probably not quite as good at um you know helping them. They were concerned about uh improving. Uh they're their they're selling these and in many of them living in really very poorly served areas. Right. Sanitary means. Right. Um they were doing the action work with the help of other agencies. We tried to be supportive of that. I can remember on a subsequent occasion going down into that same area to meet with the Spanish Population Group. When John was on our staff at that time and Clem's set up a Saturday meeting we went down and tried to relate you know how can we be of help. Um think our heart was in the right place. I wouldn't say we we could blame a lot of the show for that. But if you try and you know nothing. What about for the people who were not in the. Or you didn't worry. Become a part of a bigger thing I mean um. OK. No I. There probably were. Let's talk about Polk County. Example because I do remember that time we were wrestling with that problem. The what we would call the project club uh didn't work too well. And in my opinion in urban settings there was some of that. And of course they couldn't have been. And. So they built a project around other things. And sometimes they were animals but more often they were airplanes. Good example but there were there were other problems. What about that same time. I think we were starting to do was uh build in some shorter term kinds of interest some summer work and we were concentrating that on. On nutrition. Some of that urban money that I talked about that was earmarked. I remember we used to try to combine enough recreation and the like to get the kids involved. Uh some people didn't understand why we were in the recreation business. But we were trying to get them there to teach them about citizenship about the community action how you accomplish things in a community. Sometime they got involved in some paint up picked up kinds of things which again were often misinterpreted as too superficial you know to to really uh be worthy of the time. But I think we we involved um. Some resources to help them learn leadership responsibility citizens get some of those things in those urban areas and they weren't always low income. But but some of them work. So in Polk County use example again I remember we we tried to come up combine professional and paraprofessionals napping so we could continue that additional program if you will but yet uh tailor a program that was more appropriate to get to live in the urban area. Things that are going you you'd be able to trace some of those for sure. We still have in the most urban counties some some of that federal money that money is continued as well as some efforts that the county councils have become supportive of you. I think in the urban areas we have tried to concentrate on on lower resource audiences youth audiences who didn't have maybe the opportunity we. I don't say the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts don't serve those as they well may but I think we we didn't see our mission as going out head to head with Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts in the traditional community. We tried to avoid that and work with those other agencies in training their people in the line. So what you find today if you went down to Polk County or in some of those other urban would be a continuing emphasis in in nutrition that they were some of those youth groups. Much of it in the summer but some of it year round shorter term emphases some of it. Maybe in the area of ecology and in environment um we have worked with other youth serving agencies to try to provide good teaching materials and make a contribution in that way. On the adult side it vastly expanded. The nutrition program continues in the urban areas. It was for both rural and urban. But what has happened is we've had to phase it down to tailor the budget accordingly. And so most of it is in urban areas. Um we continue to try tried to. Sir. Though. Needs that local councils and. We used to fall for love. Many say they feel are important. I want to be honest about that. Uh we end up in a role of probably trying to do two things. One listen to what that local group is instead doing. And also remember what the guidelines for that money says we need to use on board and then bring those two together. And I think you're seeing that. Oh wait. He has 30 years of restrictions on money and the guidelines for the money have become really. More specific one. That's more of a concern that you have to take in. It this way I don't mean to imply that the federal government uh has uh. Then uh. Overly vindictive on that. I. But they did give it to us or or with quite specific guidelines and in the case of the expanded deal which is an education program. And so we. They do monitor that. And we have tried to live by that because we felt there was plenty of work. The ballot in those guidelines that we were doing. The other thing that that your statement describes is uh is true also. And that is that since. The early 70s Congress. They have given extensive system money have tended to specify. What what uses they weren't that made up and expand lubrication is the biggest example of that. But there are a number of other things that we call three-D items in the Smith liver bill that but not Leber Bill. They say we want you to work on integrated pest management or on farm safety or on pesticide impact assessment. They have said what they expect of us. They gave a $4. Which I. Yeah. I mean it in some ways that might be helpful but nothing else. It's one more thing to keep factoring in. Try and make them. It makes it a bit more complex and and it is a three way partnership. And the other two partners need to be kept up to speed on that. Otherwise they don't understand why you make some of the decisions you do. Yeah I remember going to a county council and I think this was uh. Anti-independence and Bebe and County I think would be and then it was right next to Blackbaud. I remember that probably 10 years ago and they couldn't understand why we were spending all that money over in Black Hawk County and couldn't couldn't give them a full time youth worker. As I recall the fact of the matter is that they they weren't urban enough to qualify for that money. They didn't have the right to help. Well I guess so. It's really helpful. You know your your explanation especially the move into the. In nineteen eighty one you say you changed hats again. Right. And became the director. I see. Yes that's right. Just down how retired and I was the one selected to succeed him as dean of the university extension and director of Blop with its debt to. Detail but it tells you something about the split. Eighty five percent of that position salary is paid from the Cooperative Extension Service and 30 percent from the general university budget. That's something about how your time. That's right. That's right. Well here we get into an area where I think I told you early on and the way I'm approaching this history project is doing bits at a time and I'm only up to the 1930s. I'll make it up to World War do it all up in the next few months because then I have to start thinking about this paper. But it means that I am. If I were coming to interview you say two years from now I would be far more knowledgeable myself about some of the general developments in general trend line. To be honest I'm really not in my own working my way through the. I'm I'm I'm I'm bad for a long city in a sense here. I'm probably lacking for the kind of insight. More specific questions to ask you. So I guess what I'd like to just say is maybe again in talking about your work as a director maybe more of the inside of what is really the administrative and almost the day-To-Day working with within. Yeah I think very important maybe even more important is stepping away and looking at extension in a more general way in terms of what the major problems. Were they good service. Obviously the farm economy was going to be one that probably fell on you like a rogue anvil. I saw both when you came in pretty good. And. You brought it up closer and more not catch you with a little more juice. I think I can. I think I sense what you're asking for I can deal with the detail I can give you a seat with specified nine responsibilities that were on the vacancy and I'm going to guess which I was hired and I walked through all of that. But that because that's the documentable find its thing. But uh uh. Let me see if I can speak. The detached view in nineteen eighty one we had the start of a problem but we weren't aware of the dimensions of that problem was going to play into it. And so when I came on stream as director I had. Said in a seminar that uh all of us were finalists had an opportunity that is going to. Try to implement the administration that that delivered on birth of all the philosophy that I so agree with the doctor parts. Had it used in restructuring I remember definitely that I would not have come into that job if it hadn't been a university wide extension. And we just had it seemed to me that's the way we needed to go and not too long before I came into the job. And one register had conducted a poll of Iowans. You may recall and ask them what the ten most important thing were to them. And there were out of the 10 I don't have those in front of me nor can I take them all off. Um they the list just lucked out that you when you saw it there were a host of those that uh extension education could contribute to. Boot Hill and. A healthy economy and several quality of life dimensions. Oh yes I remember when we couldn't contribute to one another state holiday but I eliminated that one is any part. But nevertheless what I was saying in a philosophical sense it seemed to me that was was very much in keeping with what we said what our mission said. We were all about trying to help uh improve. Speak to the needs of people. And we have the right structure to do that in that region. Any college that we chose to and and. See if we can strike a deal with an academic department head. Speak to that. Of course we had cooperative extension staff at that time in five values and we still do. Five of the acknowledged. Uh one eat that time but whatever there were we had five. Uh in uh in terms of tracing that along as I think about it um we were off and running and and uh had a not a rapidly increasing budget but uh a little increase each year. Mm hmm. I think I needed one in eighty one. Yeah. Modest increase. I think if we looked at uh the three partners. And uh but very quickly uh we came to realize in nineteen eighty three that that bond situation um the land prices you may recall had peaked in seventy nine and eighty. Uh and then from then on uh several things started to happen. Uh land prices started to go down uh all over things. The rules on uh the monetary policy uh. There were some parts of the state that had some bad weather. Um there were just a number of things that were going on that uh. I remember sitting in this room uh with uh my program leaders and um particularly in agriculture and. Unity development. And I'm not sure whether economic is represented at that time but soon was when you say hey I believe we need to take a look at the plan that we have put in place only a couple of months earlier. As far as what we were going to do that year and part of that came out of good work that would have been done over in the Department of Economics by a number of our specialist over there to say that they were concerned about what they saw on the horizon. And we did. Within a month the have staff in for training. We had people we borrowed some people from Minnesota to brief us on a microcomputer watch uh program which they'd been working on on a regional basis. And to make a long story short we we uh. Jettison some plans that we had to work in the egg man. Take the farm management area and went back to the old one on one method. Sitting down with farmers analyze their cash flow and their options with the help of microcomputers and the like. And of course in 1984 uh we were able to communicate that problem and had some help because the others were becoming aware of it and legislators started giving them some additional money for what became the assist program and the assist program with more than just farm management. By that time we recognized that one of the things that were really. In need of attention was the whole area of stress management that that came along with those farm problems and that was a family and community problem. And uh we also recognize that uh there was a need in that part of uh component of this this program to uh to marshal and coordinate the resources. That we're out there in those communities. The whole host of things all the way from. People who get help families in that community find food when they ran out of money and they could get them hopefully in the mental health problems before suicide. Follow them. And so we became involved in very much in that at the county level of trying to organize a community resource support negative. They went under a different name. Say something. I think this is something. Yes. In the work that I've done so far in this study thinking is this ability to be captain the other organization with the cooperation with the existing organization whether it was this the very concept or whether it was a woman's group and water through to cooperating with them. And knowing what resources were out there it seems to me that almost from the beginning. These have very identifiable. And I would have to see strings of the extension service. And here it is again in the 80s. I I think that's very perceptive and I agree with it. So and I think there are two observations I would make about that. One of the reasons is because we have the staff out there who live as part of that community in that county and they they get to know what's out there. Uh both in terms of what organizations and individuals are. And they also understand something about the local pub culture. What what's important what what can be done what what game. And the second thing is that uh. Um they uh. Well I we hope. I think this is probably a statement of hope but I hope it's that helpful. We are regarded as a fairly objective organization one that uh hopefully they have trust in. And we don't have a political bias or we don't have a commercial advocacy. We are selling a product. And I think through that history that has been very important. Uh we we became a coalition maker or or a person that could be brought in or an entity that could be brought in uh because we didn't have a vested interest in that regard. And I think that's extremely crucial that we preserve that. Now you one that's that's a statement of belief but I think it's extremely important to preserve that not let happen. What happened as I see it in the People's Republic of China that those outreach people became tools of government to carry the political message. You are deregulation and their credibility in the past. You could do it. Nathan. 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It is an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=35.86,40.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"agency of education. And it seemed to me at times","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=43.0,45.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"during particularly during the 1930s when there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=46.39,49.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was so much to be done so much cooperation with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=49.66,52.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the federal government through the Agricultural","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=52.33,54.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Adjustment Act and various tax says if Director","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=54.28,57.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blahous and others were sort of reminding","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=57.85,59.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"themselves. Now maybe we're going a little too far","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=59.86,63.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"afield here. Our basic purpose is education. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=63.25,68.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think one can still say that by extension. Yes I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=68.68,72.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think we can. And I think we must. And I can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=72.97,76.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"appreciate that uh the kind of thing that they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=76.06,79.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were probably getting concerned about continues to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=79.57,84.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be one that we have to be concerned about. First","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=85.27,87.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=87.64,88.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we draw a distinction in our own mind between","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=91.15,94.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"straight line agencies. And by that I'm talking","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=94.57,97.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about particularly federal. But they will be at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=97.9,101.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the state agency that our branches are a part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=101.23,106.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the executive branch of government that are there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=106.39,109.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to implement program maybe through regulation or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=109.3,112.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or uh loans or whatever. I mean that's the Palin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=113.62,118.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administration would be a straight line. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=120.46,122.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right. 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One","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=506.92,509.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"councilman state like South Dakota when he has","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=509.32,511.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more of a siege mentality because things are bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=511.57,514.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So wasn't it. Maybe you're a little more prepared","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=514.03,518.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for that. 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That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=527.59,531.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. And maybe probably for good reason. 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Maybe anything about the uh the day","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=548.62,552.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to day work uh how much time you spend. 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Want to uh I haven't talked about our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=571.24,575.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"own financial crisis to the extension service","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=575.38,579.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which came along in the midst of that farm crisis","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=579.49,584.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business. 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Well I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2180.38,2185.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tell you I think you've been very uh complete in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2186.26,2191.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"giving me an opportunity to talk about it. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2191.54,2195.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mentioned the valuation at one point. Uh this is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2195.59,2198.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really kind of a uh recap or an enlargement of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2198.56,2203.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that. One of the things that I think we've made","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2204.14,2207.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"progress on is the system is that we have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2207.29,2211.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"emphasized the need to move as we evaluate move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2212.72,2217.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From what I would call input line description you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2218.51,2222.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know we spent so many days that we didn't so many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2222.77,2225.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"programs or I remember when I was a new assistant","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2225.11,2227.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Grundy County in nineteen forty seven I had a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2227.72,2230.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little tablet that I kept and I put on how many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2230.78,2233.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"phone calls I told them how many miles I drove and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2233.12,2235.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"many office dollars in the head. That's still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2235.98,2238.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"useful information. But what we've done in this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2238.58,2241.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sheet reminded me of that. I'll give it to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2241.34,2243.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's uh we we we have talk about impacts you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2244.05,2247.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. How many dollars did we help people play to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2248.23,2251.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The best that we can evaluate that. How how did we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2251.52,2254.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"impact some of those things that you can't quite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2254.57,2257.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"translate into a cost benefit ratio in an economic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2258.74,2262.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense. But how did we impact people's lives and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2262.19,2265.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"describe those social and economic consequences. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2265.34,2268.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think we've gotten better at that. We're devoting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2268.85,2271.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more attention to it in a much more sophisticated","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2271.19,2273.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way than we used to call survey research or more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2273.95,2278.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"scientific evaluation options. Uh several times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2279.83,2283.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's good. It will help us again. And I think as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2284.03,2287.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we try to describe to people what it is we're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2287.33,2290.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing and with what effect. And hopefully that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2290.39,2294.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will will pay off in support of saying yes you are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2294.35,2299.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an effective organization which we very much need","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2300.56,2304.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to demonstrate that we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2304.85,2306.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I need to correct one thing that I remember I said","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2308.71,2310.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the tape I used the name Clam Chow. Uh. That is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2310.78,2315.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is uh my job as a faculty member here on campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2316.2,2319.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But but uh I was thinking of our extension","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2320.23,2322.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sociologist uh uh. Who uh. His name was Ben. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2322.84,2327.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's who set up the meeting in the morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2330.04,2332.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2332.29,2332.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well thank you very much. Well like my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=2336.13,2339.21"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21884/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/021/884/original/AV204997_2.vtt?1611161109","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/021/884/original/AV204997_2.vtt?1611161109"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21885","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV204997_2.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459/transcript/21885/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿- You mentioned uh mentioned the term education and then again in in reading back in the various extension reports I guess if there is any one point that is made over and over and over is that expansion is an agency of education. It is an agency of education. And it seemed to me at times during particularly during the 1930s when there was so much to be done so much cooperation with the federal government through the Agricultural Adjustment Act and various tax says if Director Blahous and others were sort of reminding themselves. Now maybe we're going a little too far afield here. Our basic purpose is education. I think one can still say that by extension. Yes I think we can. And I think we must. And I can appreciate that uh the kind of thing that they were probably getting concerned about continues to be one that we have to be concerned about. First of all we draw a distinction in our own mind between straight line agencies. And by that I'm talking about particularly federal. But they will be at the state agency that our branches are a part of the executive branch of government that are there to implement program maybe through regulation or or uh loans or whatever. I mean that's the Palin administration would be a straight line. That's right. Or the Agricultural Stabilization Service out there to implement certain kinds of farm program. We do draw distinction in their own mind that that we are out there as an educational institution in many cases to to help educate about the options that those agencies provide. We have within USDA the charge to be the educational arm or the US farm neglible that work closely with them. But it's very important we feel that we do not step over that line and suddenly tell farmers you ought to do that. You ought to sign up for the farm program. Maybe a small distinction. We try to make it apparent what the pluses and minuses are what their options are but the decision we feel ought to be there not us as an advocate. So the difference between being an advocate for whether it's a farm program or a commercial product or something else we feel is a very important distinction. And so I would answer your question. Yes I think we still feel very strongly that we have to get up every morning and say we are an educational organization and we ought to decide on that basis what it is that we can do and what we feel somebody ought to be done and let somebody else at times were criticized for that. But it is very relevant to the previous point I made. If we are to maintain credibility and trust and be regarded as an objective third party I think it's important. I want a bit of thoughts I had on this is it. Some people charge that the extension after the end of the policy making business and in my own mind I can say sort of back thinking well if people would sort of let extension be would extend and sees its role being. Life might be a little easier. Yeah. I'm getting a little off here but no I don't think so. Why. Why didn't extension warn us that these problems were coming down the line. Well if you are truly an educational institution and not involved in policy making then as you say it's to it's to present alternatives to present information. But he's having to stand by in a sense almost and see certain things take place which might not be viewed as good. But that's that's maybe the downside of being a remaining true to the education. There are a couple of related points and I want to give credit to I think Ron Powers is the one I've heard to make this statement. I think it's his own way of describing it. It's great. We have been in the policy. Public policy area since the mid 50s as an extension service. We were one of I was one of the first if not the first to go into that. The part that I like. I think Ron uses so aptly and says that our role in the policy business is taking the ignorance out of the arguments. Now that's to say it's an educational role to identify options bring to bear a set of facts on what those options are without actually necessary without being the advocate in Niebuhr. Eldridge was one of those who very much operated in that area. I think Bieber was in it probably from the mid 50s. But the point being that yes we are in public policy and we've done a number of public policy issues on financing public services on uh uh relating to school reorganization on a host of things. But again trying to make our role of taking the ignorance out of some of the arguments and letting the people decide which policy they want to implement. So in that sense yes you're right. We do stand by and and say we won't decide for you. Uh I still think that's right. Even though uh you know recently as the last month I have heard that we are being criticized for not having seen the farm crisis coming. That was uh uh a major leader in this state said well how come they didn't see it coming and take appropriate action. That's right. And you see here's here's the downside. Remain faithful to education. And I would say this too. I would not deny that. Uh yeah. If you look back I don't imagine there were many others in 1978 that saw the farm crisis but I don't imagine there were very many people that knew Paul Volcker was going to change the rules the monetary system at that point either. So there are some things to be sure you don't see coming. We didn't see the energy crisis coming. We didn't know the year before to raise oil prices. We didn't see the southern currently light problem coming in nineteen seventy one or seventy two. Something maybe aren't seeable. But but nevertheless when people are frustrated and have suffered and then you you you experienced some of that. I I I really do. I think too that in a state like Iowa that has been so blessed. And Iowa has been blessed with some of the best soil some of the most intelligent people. I feel that very well I shouldn't say this because I can't out. I think the human resource here is a little stronger. Um there is more of a tendency to be lulled into complacency. Things are usually so good. One doesn't have to worry about. Thank you. One councilman state like South Dakota when he has more of a siege mentality because things are bad. So wasn't it. Maybe you're a little more prepared for that. Yeah there is the what I hear you saying is when you're comfortable you you tend to not be quite as a just change that right. That's right. Yes. And maybe probably for good reason. Um is there anything else that you'd like to add about um your work as a director expansion and you've talked more about the problems than we have seen some of them. Maybe anything about the uh the day to day work uh how much time you spend. And I'm sure someone probably Freemasons were working with legit personnel problems or replacements. Yeah I can talk about that. Um. And there's another way back to you. Want to uh I haven't talked about our own financial crisis to the extension service which came along in the midst of that farm crisis business. But let me try to respond your question. Um. It always looks uh different from behind the desk than it did from across the death. And I remember as an assistant director you know a. Thinking I thought I knew what that job was like but you never felt. So like you move into it. And it's one that I realized in the early 70s when I was an assistant director that there was a tremendous amount of increased paperwork and and administrative overhead that was coming out of somebody. I don't see it. In any criticism at all. But as you implement affirmative action or you you try to become more responsive in an accountability sense in 1977 Farm Bill said we needed to be more accountable on social and economic consequences which meant we need to do more evaluation and more reporting in the light and a public relations sense. At that same time we I think realized that we needed to do a better job of helping uh county councils and boards the supervisors and in municipal as state leaders. Well. Know what kinds of things we were doing. The same time we were very frustrated because we were doing more things in more areas. And one of the charges that continues to keep its comeback over those 17 years. You're all things to all people. And yet as you look at that Ethan we we think that we can trace uh to those various mandates and the like a charge and the mission that says we're supposed to be doing that. But it's a little like the old the that poem about the blind men and the elephant. Everybody sees a little different part of this attention the elephant. And when they get together they say we'll be there. Everything to everybody and nobody can be that. And you don't argue that. No no. Nobody can be everything. But the point is that as a director and a dean that is one of the things that you devote a lot more time uh trying to be proactive about as well as uh trying to minimize the losses on a reactive basis because it usually has some implications for resources and support. So there's a lot of this job that really is day to day relations internal and external. Some of those are within the university. Make those uh uh. The extension function is not uh completely understood within the university those departments that have cooperative extension staff in them. And in the other extension units uh engineering expansion are much more likely to understand uh the three land grant the legs on that milk stool that characterizes the land-grant mission much better than some of the more basic research departments or some of those that don't have an immediate outreach function or obligation. And we're sort of a mystery to them. And then you have a number of personnel problems. But grow out of that too. You need to get people promoted in the faculty ranks and make sure the rewards are there. And when you don't have complete understanding of that throughout the university that that is a problem. And we work at that really hard not quite successful. Uh the same is said that can be said about field staff at this institution. Don't have faculty rank there than in this system but it's important in our judgment to reward them for being teachers at another level. And so that's another one that we spent a lot of time on the last 10 years trying to get understood as we brought in a DNS classification system and um helping people that are specialized in the personnel business or who are are serving on a committee that uh pass judgment on whether you classify this position at that this level or that level. Just gotten a great deal more complex in the 17 years that I've had anything to do with that goes with the territory. So that translates quite locked into a lot of uh paperwork and a lot of committee me and most extension people and I happen to be one of those got a great deal of satisfaction out of face to face interaction. And by that I mean doing things that people and you become aware that there is a paradox there. You've got to get that paper done and keep it flowing or the system that but it keeps you from doing some other things that you really thought you'd do in that job and you might do enjoy doing a lot more. But the other has to be done. The reason I react to your statement I criticism my extension is to be all things to all people. It is again harking back to some of the earlier material that I've looked at in following through the county agent in the name County. You can see you right in the tradition and work at the county using everything that you were supposed to do on any given day or any given year. And then the emergency room whether it was World War II or the problems in the early 20s or with the AAA and the Depression years. And it's just that my mental image of this poor girl. Well yes it must have been going crazy. It was almost demanded of him to be all things to all people. He had to be and couldn't be obviously expected to have expertise about keeping farm records and about the corn bread that was sitting getting it. So I suspect again it's one of those re-occurring things that keeps coming up almost every decade of big scandal in history. Yeah. But you're right. Uh you know it's good for us to remember that this isn't a new phenomenon. And uh the person that's out there on the front line. There first of all they are sensitive by the very nature of being hired for that job to the needs and wants of people. And as people ask things other than their can they tend to want to say yes. Part of the problem. It's also part of the answer. They want to say yes. And they they find their days consumed. And you know one of the things that we uh we talk about as well there are some things that they do that others could do. Running the county fair is one that often comes up and you can't argue too much about that. But there are probably other people that can do an awful lot of things that count the age of one did want. Did you know when I was a forager they used to help your dad gathers at the county fair and wake calves and so on and so forth. We're trying to uh implement uh the notion of others doing that. But believe it or not when they wanted to know sprint cars for the county or for the state fair last year we had extensions that that were asked to do that in the more pressured to do that and then probably consented to something. Many people get a great deal of satisfaction out of that particular. And that's true. And uh you were to say something about the financial problems of the 80s as well as the farm crisis. All right. I'm talking here now apta about financial problems that the impact the expansion as well as perhaps some other agencies like the experiment station. Let me confine it. The extension that's what I know best is that uh both in the state of Iowa and at the federal level as we moved into the 80s uh the uh economic uh uh constraints uh were were being felt. They eventually resulted in the Gramm-Rudman uh that uh at a federal level. But at the state level uh I think the uh there was a period in there where uh I'm sure four out of five of those years early years in the time that I was being there were state reversions. In other words the state uh appropriated more money than we actually ended up getting. And so what the two added up to as we found the flashpoint of resources at both the federal and state level uh at a time where inflation was still moving forward is that that we had to. Reduce that. If we were to continue to keep the bank balance in the black and we didn't have an alternative it would. It isn't legal to run in the red. So there were some things that happened right. In November of 1984. I'd put uh I'd ask the group of twenty six people 13 of them staff 13 of them constituent leaders from around the state to uh do what we call today strategic planning. They completed their task in a year reported in nineteen eighty five. And by the time that we recognized that we were going to have to downsize which may be a bad word but to reduce our number of our staff we at least had their report. And that was helpful. So we went through a process and over a period of two years of removing 60 professional positions from the Cooperative Extension Service. And that dropped this firm about uh four hundred and thirty to three hundred and seventy staff. And some of those came out of county. And so I'm out of the area office and some out of state specialist and administrative positions here on campus. That's a very painful process. And there's a lot in print about that uh within internal documents and otherwise. But the point is that uh a good bit of my time and of my administrative staff time uh including area directors uh with the men involved in really a period of um well over three years of uh accomplishing that putting it in place and uh. Yep. Now has uh pretty well uh not pretty well by June 30th. We will have accomplished what we said would be accomplished by by that time as we removed those positions we reorganized we reduced the number of very offices from twelve to seven we reduced the uh and that would have been a year. And so uh actually what when I talk about removing sixty positions I'm talking about comparative figures of July 1st nineteen eighty five to uh uh two years later. Mm-Hmm. And so that would be a lie first of uh of eighty seven. And the reason I say we've now completed uh there were some paraprofessional positions that we said we need more warning time that the people in those positions and we will not complete that until June 30th of eighty eight and we have now completed that. So the point is that some of those really took place over a three year period but the national positions uh were two and it made it possible to the point now where we uh we are living within our means have lived the time means to but we had to move rapidly to do that. And that's been part of the challenge and it's had an effect. Uh when you reorganize and reduce positions and the like uh all roll redefinition uh you know he's responsible for what what the expectations are no longer uh uh the people fill and the people out there in the county again as you described. Probably still one as much as they wanted before even though there may be fewer amount there. So we have gone through a very um stressful time. I would say this uh I have been felt so fortunate to find one to be then surrounded by a very capable and hardworking staff who really um took that task on with a great deal of time consciousness and compassion. And secondly the staff in general who although there were frustrations and there were anger and there were county council that came and sat around this table and a couple of times you know and saying we believe you've made the wrong decision. All is said and done. I am very pleased that we had. A generally positive attitude on the part of the staff is a step that you just did that I don't want to sweep under the rug that some people that are better but most of my not. Well I'm sure you any time you go to any time you in positions are eliminated. I think there some drop in morale. Absolutely would have to. Absolutely. We have to be. Well um. At the beginning I wondered if you might reflect back on it during the time you've been dating extension. Reflect back on on what you might say you feel are the. Well when I say major I know that many things for major accomplishments that maybe in your own view would which you really feel the strongest about any one or more things changes that were made programs that were put into effect things that you feel were particularly successful. And then on the other side of that anything that maybe you had real disappointment. I suspect that disappointment would be in your having to bring about some staff reductions but you might just reflect on those two things. All right. Um and let me make it clear that uh when I talk about these I don't want to be misunderstood that this was my doing in the sense of uh uh these things that I think are progress. No but uh. Because. 1 there were there was a general support and an implementation of it and some of that extending up to the national level as well and that it took ownership on the part of a lot of people or this wouldn't be happening. One of the things that has happened is I think such a right direction that it's happening here in Iowa. But I think it's also happening. I know what's happening on the national level to a great degree. And that is we have come from a point of thinking in terms of programming in a disciplinary sense or a program area. Since then we've got four program areas in the Cooperative Extension Service Bag Community Development Economics. And for a few years we have I have seen uh and I'm sure that it's uh a positive direction that we need to continue on. Recognizing first of all we've got to zero in on issues that are critical to the public agenda. It's not unrelated to the kind of thing I said about those 10 things that Iowans wanted to do. But an issue is more focused than just good health. And in what we've come around to and I've been fortunate enough to have program leaders and staff who are willing to buy into it and that is that OK we identify and if you like pursuing profitability good agriculture or water quality or family economic stability or one that is diverging at the national level now. Paul youth at risk. And they say all right what is it that the specialists that I work with have to contribute to the resolution of that problem and work across program and discipline lines in a focused and more comprehensive way of putting a program together. That has to be right and we have to be much more effective for that. If you comprehend more comprehensive way of dealing with uh with a problem and with education it lends itself off to it in the delivery sense that it isn't a matter of going up with a set of meetings or doing a few radio broadcasts or using satellite uplink. But it's a matter of planning all of that in a more comprehensive sense of saying all right. There are a number of sub audiences out there that we need to reach. We're really going to make an impact on that. What we need to do with this audience is different than what we need to do with that audience. But those all come together in making uh uh the resolution of that problem. Uh more uh or. Well we've been working as a system on that and as the state staff. And I think we're really making progress on that. And so it's a system accomplishment that I'm talking about that I think is a major difference and where we were seven years ago. And again I want to add that I'd I'm not saying that Bob Brown's contribution that's something that has happened uh because the number of forces were right for that happening. I think it will make a major uh difference in not only how effective we are in education but and also eventually how we're regarded by those who fund uh educational efforts. You can make a difference. Um they won't. But they they they will put resources. They will put resources in. Now that that is one I feel very good about. I feel that um very good about some things that we have accomplished in the affirmative action sense. I think that I'll be very candid here. I think we're a different extension service than we were 10 years ago in terms of recognizing uh uh the gender um concerns. We have a substantial uh increase in the number of women who are county extension directors. Uh we have uh I think uh paid considerable attention to making sure that uh salaries are comparable regardless of gender. We have worked out affirmative action in the recruitment of minorities. We have not done as well there as uh we would like. We have made some progress but we have not done as well as we'd like in holding in holding minorities in particular fields that position. Um I think that we have um in spite of the downsizing made some progress. And I want to give credit to the Future Directions Task Force on implementing a number of very important recommendations. And I'll give you a document that uh further checks off where there were 30 28 recommendations they made in the document. I have your I put together. So uh if it's my judgment of what which we've adopted and implemented and which we've not yet adopted and which department we implement. But the point is that I feel very good about having first of all uh half that group to do that job. They did it competently. And then uh we went about trying to implement the recommendations they made. And I I feel that that was a sound report. Uh that was again a group companies during the last seven years that it's been. I think also in spite of the fact that we've reduced numbers we are. As I look across those four units that I talked about we understand. Uh more about each other about those units and that uh we uh work in a federal justich way in uh many more ways than we did. That was one of my hopes that we. But I think we've made some progress on that. We've done some restructuring and reorganizing to try and accomplish that. Not 100 percent yet but uh. Yeah. Yeah. It's a statement of belief that I have that that still is uh the right structure in the right way to be organized to get the maximum product out to the people. Uh from uh the total university that's being re-examined examined by an ad hoc committee. And uh what they decide. That's my belief but not my decision to make. Where do I feel perhaps less than Phil. And I guess I think about it. There are two areas. One I am sure that out of the background that I came with is communications. And I had worked in in an area of university relations and alumni relations. And one of the things that I I uh. Bill I would have liked it gone a lot farther than they did would be an improving ah ah the awareness of of uh people about what Extension's doing. And uh we call it marketing now. We didn't call it marketing ten years ago. But what what I'd uh given my background and the like I guess I would have hoped that we would have uh come farther than I think we have been in making people aware good things that we do of our effectiveness. And and in terms of uh delivering on the mission that was so basic to the Land Grant Act itself and to this little lever. And uh there are still an awful lot of people in our some of our best friends tell us this is it. You hide your light under Bush and they're probably they must be right. And I feel badly that that I wasn't able to to eliminate the grounds for making that statement. But it's not been eliminated. We need to work on that. Um and then the second of course I do feel bad that I guess to avoid the feeling that your your healthy your growing and we have not grown. We have uh. There's many dollar resources I mean if you look at the budgets uh uh the total number of dollars is greater now than it was seven years ago. But you have to also take into account the inflation and some other things are going. So we have not. We have been at best a uh a plateauing uh organization as far as resources go. Uh fewer personnel. More of those resources being uh perhaps spent for uh some technical technology and in the delivery. And that that is a plus. I feel good about uh implementing or being able to implement as much as we have in a time of uh by pooling resources the electronic technology in that uh we do have computers in in every county and every office. We do have a system wide network. We have 75 uh downlink sites in place. We have made some commitments to uh high tech uh electronic technology. Uh uh uh word processing. But um. Macintosh the kind of desktop publishing made more use of telephone systems and the like. The bad part. Uh I think we made reasonable progress for the resources we had. But uh of course you had it your own way. You would have been farther down the road on that as well. Well I think we've covered quite a quite a bit here. I mean the last four times the ask any sort of just manually quickly reflecting on this. Is there anything else that maybe that I didn't ask you about that you have a comment about. Well I tell you I think you've been very uh complete in giving me an opportunity to talk about it. I mentioned the valuation at one point. Uh this is really kind of a uh recap or an enlargement of that. One of the things that I think we've made progress on is the system is that we have emphasized the need to move as we evaluate move. From what I would call input line description you know we spent so many days that we didn't so many programs or I remember when I was a new assistant in Grundy County in nineteen forty seven I had a little tablet that I kept and I put on how many phone calls I told them how many miles I drove and many office dollars in the head. That's still useful information. But what we've done in this sheet reminded me of that. I'll give it to you. It's uh we we we have talk about impacts you know. Okay. How many dollars did we help people play to. The best that we can evaluate that. How how did we impact some of those things that you can't quite translate into a cost benefit ratio in an economic sense. But how did we impact people's lives and describe those social and economic consequences. I think we've gotten better at that. We're devoting more attention to it in a much more sophisticated way than we used to call survey research or more scientific evaluation options. Uh several times. That's good. It will help us again. And I think as we try to describe to people what it is we're doing and with what effect. And hopefully that will will pay off in support of saying yes you are an effective organization which we very much need to demonstrate that we are. I need to correct one thing that I remember I said on the tape I used the name Clam Chow. Uh. That is is uh my job as a faculty member here on campus. But but uh I was thinking of our extension sociologist uh uh. Who uh. His name was Ben. Yeah. And that's who set up the meeting in the morning. It was not. Well thank you very much. Well like my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1163/collection_resources/35408/file/104459#t=0.0,2868.5552"}]}]}]}