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Tonight's speaker, Art Bushkin, is president of a consulting firm in Washington which gives advice on telecommunications, technology, and policy, as well as international trade. He has worked as a consultant for such multinationals as American Express and Bank of America, as well as worked for the Japanese government. He studied computer science for eight years at MIT and has written extensively on information technology issues. He told me on the way up from Des Moines that he really enjoys coming to a university because of the dialogue it fosters. And so I'm to encourage you as the audience to make the question and answer period long and he'll try and make the lecture not quite as long as last night's. Join me in welcoming Art Bushkin.\r\n\r\n- I have a feeling I signed a blank check. How long was last night's? That was a real offer. I've heard myself talk before and you haven't. So I'll try and stay awake during it but I really would prefer to talk with you, not at you. I will not get offended if you wanna raise your hand and ask a question during the talk. I reserve the right to say that I'll answer it later in the talk, but this is supposed to be a learning experience. We're on a university campus. The views that I'm going to express tonight obviously don't represent the views of any of my current clients or past clients or the views of the US government. And I, as you looked in the bio, I was an official in the last administration. I'm going to try and provoke you a little bit. This thing tips. This is a very esoteric subject. And the conference organizers were saying, \"Well, turnout's a little smaller.\" And to me, it's a little large actually. This is a very difficult subject for people to get a grasp on and relate to their daily lives. So I'm gonna try a little bit to relate it to things that are going on in Iowa today and tomorrow, as well in an intellectual lecture. I suppose I should do what a speaker normally does which is take off your watch in a very official looking way and set it before you. And I've got a digital timer here that I can't read from this high up. So it probably won't do any good anyway, but I don't want you to think that I'm not paying attention to all the things that speakers are supposed to do. Let me begin just by saying that it's an honor and a privilege. You want me to turn the mic up? Is this better? Can you all, am I keeping anybody awake in the back? It's good? Okay. And what is this one? This one goes to this fellow over here? And you're happy? Anybody else have anything they want to settle before we get going? Okay, let me say that it's an honor and a privilege to speak to a group like this. And you probably expect me to say, and I will, that the 19-year history of this organization is an exercise in international communications in itself. And that's not something that I say simply to be polite and nice. I had the privilege of representing my country in a series of international negotiations, and there are other people in the room with a similar experience. And I think we can all tell you that 90% of what happens in international meetings is what we in Washington might say, mirrors and blue smoke. It's the atmospherics. It's the developing of personal trust between the participants. Generally, things are worked out in advance or not in advance. They're worked out in the corridors as opposed to the main bodies. And if you think that coming to sessions like this and other sessions is, is purely an academic exercise, that's not in fact the case. So much of my success or failure as an international negotiator or meeting participant stemmed from conversations like this. So this is indeed a certain amount of real, real life. And I will try to give it a real life flavor as we go. Now, I've been asked to speak tonight on the topic of technology as an aspect of the broader subject of international communications. Conference organizers were very specific about that. They even wanted technology in the title. They didn't care what I said, but it had to be technology in the title. Now technology is a very broad subjects, broad field, broad area. And I'm certain that virtually all of the speakers will have something to say about technology. So I'm gonna focus my remarks somewhat, and I'm gonna discuss a rapidly growing area of international trade that's arising out of the increased use of technology. This area has a number of names. Most of them are very difficult to pronounce. Trade and services, international communications, transborder data flow, international information flows. Try telling somebody at a cocktail party that that's the field you work in and watch their eyes glaze over. But regardless of the name, it's increasingly clear that this area is going to be a significant aspect of all of international commerce throughout the end of the century. Now, when I referred to the use of technology, I was making a very important distinction. Classical trade issues, just like traditional communications issues, deal principally with questions of supply or market allocation. That is who provides what products, what services, under what terms, what conditions. In the United States, we like to say we're in a period of deregulation, but what we are regulating or now deregulating is essentially the supply side of communications. And I'm not being cute with the phrase and relating it to Reaganomics. We talk about who can have access to the airwaves. We talk about a license to be a TV radio station. We talk about the terms and conditions under which the phone company can provide service, to common carriage, the same way international trade generally talks about international market allocation. How many guns, how many boats, how many beans are you going to ship from your country to someone else's country, under what tariffs, under what terms and conditions? But my goal tonight is to persuade you that the range of issues emerging from the use of communications, and particularly, I'm talking about computers and telecommunications. I'm not talking about biomedical or technologies like that, but basically the information technologies, are very serious issues. And they will have a direct impact on all of international business. It's gonna be a gradual impact, but it's going to be a direct impact, nonetheless. There is incidentally, we can talk about it more in the questioning period if you like, there is a one-for-one domestic counterpart to what I am saying in the international. The talk tonight is focused more on international issues, but there is certainly a domestic counterpart. You hear that the decline of manufacturing, we're moving to a service-based economy. There are two kinds of services. There are things like construction, shipping, transportation and then there are the information-based services; banking, credit, finance, entertainment, education, health to a certain degree, journalism, news, all information-based services. Now I should say at the onset, when I talk about the serious implications, I don't think the sky is going to fall. I do not think that multinational companies will suddenly find themselves unable to communicate internationally. And there are number of people who will say the sky is going to fall. I'm not one of them, but I do think that the terms and conditions under which international communications will take place in the coming years will change in some very significant ways. Now, at this point, you're probably saying, \"What is this fellow talking about?\" Before I get into the guts of what I'm talking about, it's also important for me to say in the introductory portion of this, that not all of the changes that I'm predicting, that I'm going to, some of which I'll point out to, not all of these changes will be the result of nationalistic, and in some cases, unfriendly or allegedly unfriendly actions on the part of our trading partners. It's very important that you come away tonight with several thoughts, but one of them has to be that some of the important trends in this area are the result of actions by our own government. They're contemplated by our government they're instigated by our government. Some cases, they're policies under consideration, other cases they are policies and , but it is not the case that the United States is by any means the good guy and the rest of the world's the bad guy. It's varying shades of gray. And one can argue about how bad the US is versus how bad France or Germany or Brazil or Japan or the Soviet Union are. But it's certainly the case that there is no nation on the planet, with the possible exception, of very small nations. Although given Grenada, I'm reluctant to talk about small nations. It's very few of the large trading nations have a clean background in this area. An example, just to give you a feel for it. The FCC proposal to extend its Computer Inquiry II decision to international communications is an example of a US-related activity that would have a dramatic effect on international communications. Let me pause briefly and tell you what that is. The FCC ruled a few years ago in a decision that actually has an over a decade long history, and it was called Computer Inquiry II. It attempted to draw the line between computing and communications. The reason the FCC attempted to draw the definitional line between computing and communications is because in our nation, computing, the use of computers to process information is an unregulated industry. And communications is a regulated industry and it became necessary as the technologies blurred, as computers and communications look more and more alike technologically, to also for the regulatory bodies to draw a line so that they could define the boundary of regulation. Now, the extension of that decision to international communications, in practical terms, would have the FCC deregulating the US side of international communications. The practical effect of that would be that more companies would participate in international communications. And you sit there and you say, \"Well what could be so wrong with that?\" Well, let's take the point of view from a sovereign nation like France. Previously, there were five international record carriers for record read data, and virtually every other country in the world has one communications entity. It's called the PTT, a Postal Telegraph and Telephone administration. It's a government entity, usually. And there is also a mythical midpoint in an international communication. And the US end owns 1/2 of the communication to the mythical midpoint and the foreign end owns the other half. Well from the point of view of France, the deregulation in the United States would create more US halves of communication. When you send a telegram from Paris to here, let's say, if you don't specify which carrier you want to use, the telegram goes to the next carrier. And the French PTT keeps a list and it goes to A and B and C and D, then comes back, A-B-C-D, so on. Obviously, if another US carrier comes into being, they have to add carrier F. French government estimates that for each new entity in the international communications market, as a result of USD regulations, will raise their cost of doing business, just the accounting procedures, by $5 million. Their revenues wouldn't increase, just the cost will increase. French and other governments want to retaliate. They want to say, \"Well we're gonna eliminate \"the use of leased lines. \"We're gonna go on a volume-sensitive pricing cost \"to the government and private companies.\" As a result of such a change in pricing policy, are estimated to be increases between 300 and 700%. That was a little bit of a digression, but that was one example of an action which the US is contemplating which would have a dramatic impact, would shut down some companies. Another action of the United States, which I'm gonna talk about more extensively, is the efforts of the US trade representative to have trade and services placed on the agenda of the GATT organization. Do you all know what the GATT is? The GATT is the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. Trade and tariffs I always get backwards. Tariffs and trade. It is both a treaty and an organization. It is the principal international trade organization. I believe 88 countries are members. We headquartered in Geneva. There is a UN Conference on Trade and Development called UNCTAD, the abbreviation, which is also a trade organization that tends to, as most UN organizations be more sympathetic to third world views, less developed country views, The GATT tends to be more sympathetic toward the first country, first world countries. The United States is currently unhappy with all of them, with some justification and some not. But I should note that the USTR effort, we're gonna talk about this a little more, is an anticipatory response to problems that the US trade representatives perceives to be emerging barriers, that it perceives to be emerging to international communications and trade and services. If USTR fails, fails to get this discussion in an international forum, presumably the situation will only get worse faster. Now I'm gonna try to give you a feel for the evolution of these issues. I'm gonna try and make some comments on their future directions. I want you to keep in mind some points, both for my talk and for the talks of two of the women there in the back that are going to be speaking in the days to come. I want you to remember the privacy and data protection issue, which is in a certain sense, curiously enough, how this whole area tended to evolve into the international consciousness, not necessarily an intellectual lineage of great store, but it is the way it happened in real life. The emergence of the trade issues from the social issues, especially information trade, trade and services, high-technology trade, and the relation of these issues to more conventional trade issues. And we're gonna talk about those a little bit, the shift from issues of supply to issues of use, and the shift in, and this is for those of us in the business, this turns out to be a very significant point, the shift in the discussion of international communications issues away from just the traditional, more technically oriented for a organization's principle, the International Telecommunications Union, the ITU, to also include broader based organizations the OECD, the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development, headquartered in Paris. The organization that I attended meetings at which is a 24-member nations, all first world nations, the UNCTC, the UN Center for Transnational Corporations. Which tends to be more representative of third world interests, and principally takes the view of how the less developed countries can increase their negotiating strength vis-a-vis multinational corporations and the traditional trade of the GATT. Okay, this all started, let's talk about transborder data flows for a second. If you can say that three times fast, you're very good. This whole area started in the mid 60s. And it came out under the name of transborder data flows. Basically, it's premise is as follows. Exchange of information is becoming as significant as the exchange of goods and the exchange of capital in the economic relations among nations. When you put away everything, what we're really talking about is that it's now just as important to the United States and to other governments how we move information across borders as how we move money, how we move commodities, how we move manufactured products and the like. As a result, many governments, including our own government, are considering or are implementing policies, which have the effect of restricting the flow of information across borders. It's really that simple. That's what, when you move away everything, that's what this is all about. These are international information policy issues, obviously. Two of them started to receive widespread public attention in the mid 1970s. They both began as social policy issues, curiously, rather than economic policy issues. First area which is an area that I'm not gonna talk about today, but the two other speakers that I mentioned both assured me at dinner, that they would each have something to say. So I hope they will. That's your cue. Something called a New World Information Order, sometimes called the New World Communications and Information order. This is variously a demand, a proposal, an idea, thought that arises out of the aspirations of many of the less developed countries to control what is said about them, to control their stake in the Information and Communications revolution. The principal international forum that seems to be witnessing a lot of these debates is UNESCO in UN system. And you probably, if you were attentive, in the newspapers, read a lot about it because one of the principle manifestations of this demand is to put restrictions on the flow of news, to lay out terms and conditions under which journalists can do their thing. And is there are anything a journalist doesn't like is somebody else telling them how to do it. And obviously, we have our First Amendment to contend with. So you probably read a lot because there was a lot of editorial statement about the New World Information Order. The second area that arose in the mid 70s was focused on the issue of privacy protection. And indeed for several years, probably through 1981, transborder data flow issues tended to be synonymous with privacy issues. This was not correct. It was an accident, but that's the way to evolve. Now, we finding pretty much a broader range of issues that emerge when you talk about transborder data flow. The transborder data flow issues emerged because a series of laws were passed in Western Europe, starting with the German state of Hesse in 1970, the Nation of Sweden in 1973, and then a series of popping off like popcorn over the next several years that looked very similar to US privacy laws. Individuals were granted rights to see records about them. They were granted rights to correct those records, to amend those records. Record keepers were put under obligations of non-disclosure, limits on what they could do to disclose information, limits on what they could collect. And there were some very important distinctions between the US and European approaches. European laws were omnibus in nature. US laws tended to be sectorial. So we have laws covering federal records, bank records, credit records, Fair Credit Reporting Act, education records, and the like. You have some rights, respect to the records that the school has on you, and so on. European laws covered automated records. US laws covered both manual and automated. European laws, as is typical of their civil law, as opposed to our common law traditions, created administrative bodies. And they gave these administrative bodies a particularly important power. I'm gonna say this carefully, it's a long sentence. The administrative bodies had among other powers, the discretionary authority to limit the flow of information from the host country to other countries with less than equivalent privacy protection. Let me say that again. These European laws created administrative bodies, similar to our FCC and they gave those bodies a series of powers. And one of those powers was the ability, let's say, France, let's use France an example. They gave those bodies the power to prohibit the export of personal information, information pertaining to human beings, from France to another country with less than equivalent privacy protection. Now less than equivalent is my phrase, but technical specifications in law. And that got even more serious because four of those laws in Western Europe, data protection laws, applied not only to information about people, natural persons, they applied to information about corporations, about associations. So that meant company A could request to see records about it in company B's files, and the government could prohibit the export of information pertaining to companies, inventory records, sales records, what have you. Obviously, this created a lot of problems for American business. Americans tended to view the European data protection laws as economically motivated non-tariff barriers to trade, non-tariff barriers to information exchange, international information exchange. There is, I should note, virtually no evidence to support this allegation, but American business tended to be very hostile, initially. The Europeans responded to the American allegations by arguing that it was in fact the Americans who were more concerned about preserving their economic benefits and their economic status. The Europeans argue that the very existence of their data protection laws demonstrates their note, their commitment to privacy protection. And they privately note that most American companies oppose US privacy legislation that would cover the private sector. Now, in fact, the Europeans have multiple views. They care about privacy and they care about protecting their information-based industries. Within the last two years, the debate about the motives behind the European data protection laws has largely subsided the debate about international information exchange and the economics of transborder data flows has grown exponentially. The OECD, the UNCTC, and another organization, the IBI, the Intergovernmental Bureau for Informatics are actively studying the issue, So as the East-West Center in Honolulu. You'll hear from a speaker about that also. And the US government, this is the effort of the USTR that I mentioned earlier, the US government has launched a major diplomatic initiative to have the GATT, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, both an organization and a treaty, take up these issues, trade and services, transborder data flow, international communications international information exchange, take up these issues as part of its next agenda. At the November, 1983, meeting of the GATT ministerial, the US proposed the initiation of a work program and trade and services. GATT ministers did not accept the US proposal. Instead, they agreed that each country would conduct its own examination of trading services and report back to the GATT in November of 1984. Thus the work that the US had hoped to see undertaken would in fact take place, just in a different format. It wouldn't be all countries sitting around the table in a room. They each go away and do it separately. And come back. Now, the US study on trade and services. I talked to people at USTR last week. They say, it'll be done next week. Arguably by the end of this year, the US study on trade and services will be completed, submitted to the GATT. And ultimately, the US hopes to begin another round of multilateral trade negotiations. These rounds of trade negotiations think in terms of a decade for them to be completed, they don't happen very quickly. They take four or five years to launch and four or five years to consummate. The US ultimately hopes to see a new round of multilateral trade negotiations leading to a new international agreement which would have the force of a treaty. So the force of law in the United States covering trade and services, covering transborder data flows, covering international communications. Now, let's talk about that a second. What does that mean? It's all very high sounding. Casting international information exchange in an economic context tends to be inconsistent with previous US policy statements to the effect that information is different from, and therefore must not be treated like a traditional commodity. The proponents, the supporters on the US side argue that even if the US doesn't view information as a commodity, or at least a commercially valuable service, the reality of the world is that other countries are beginning to do so. Now what would that mean in very practical terms if we said, \"Okay, information is a commodity\"? What I mean is you could tax it. You could tariff it. You're gonna go out in the next week, I'm sure and photocopy something, probably a violation of the copyright law. A multinational corporation ships a pencil across a border and pays a duty on that pencil. It ships some information across a border and it doesn't pay anything. It pays a communications charged for the use of the medium. But other governments are saying that they should have the right to tariff and tax information. And there are two kinds of information exchange that go across borders when you think about this in your head, when you sort of wonder, what is it that this fellow is really talking about. One kind is the kind you sell on the open market. Let's take computer software. Currently when you transfer a computer software program, let's say to another country, the customs duty is based on the value of the medium that your transport the software. So if you transport the software on a diskette, and it costs $10, you pay a customs duty based on the base valuation of $10. France, Brazil, a number of other countries are saying, \"Wait a minute, that's not fair,\" because you get that software inside France and you sell it for 5,000. And you probably spent 2 million to develop it. So let's tariff it on the basis of the 2 million. Some of the governments are willing to compromise at tariffing and on the basis of the 5,000. You can imagine what effect that will have on the companies that sell information-based products abroad. Secondary of international information exchange that is very big, the first area was called the market activity, market-based activity, is the non-market activity, the activity that happens inside companies or inside governments. Ford, or as we were saying in the car on the way out here tonight, John Deere transfers information inside, how big is that? Well, in Western Europe, 50% of the international data communication happened inside companies, 50%. What if we start taxing and tariffing, creating a liability structure? Now the United States has always argued in favor of a policy which it euphemistically calls the Free Flow of Information. And that policy is embedded in Article 19 of the Declaration of the United Nations. Critics of the US policy, and they are legion, including our closest allies, argue that the traditional US policy of the Free Flow of Information is only appropriate in the human rights context. It doesn't apply in the economic context. They say, we're using the word free to have two meanings. One is unrestricted. The other is without costs. They say, \"we'll give you an unrestricted, our friends. \"Our enemies won't give you unrestricted, \"but in terms of the cost, \"we're wanna start charging for all this stuff. Moreover, and here's where the real crunch comes in negotiations, this is why the US didn't win at the GATT last year. US has a comparative advantage in all this. This is our area of strength, worldwide services trade to the extent you can count it at all is estimated to be about $300 billion. The US is estimated, . Between us and the other countries of the world, there are some very serious questions that have to be asked about the US approach to putting international information exchange on the GATT agenda, on an economic negotiating table. Let's go over three of those. First, the US seeks the elimination of barriers to information exchange. The same time, other countries are gonna seek their fair share of this information trade, let's use a shorthand. Well, how will the value of this information trade be assessed for the purposes of measuring trade balances? What will we measure? Remember, a multilateral trade negotiation, for those of you that remember the previous ones, basically is a big room with lots of country flags and lots of people around a table. And fundamentally, what you do is you make concessions. You say, \"Well, I will stop shipping a few automobiles \"if you stop shipping a few beans, \"and you lower your tariffs on wheat,\" and everybody's sort of inches down. But you have to be able to count. You have to be able to measure. You have to be able to say, \"well, you've got two units \"of information trade, and I've got 1.6 and he's got 1.4, \"so let's average it out.\" And if you can't measure it, how can you make the trade? Let's assume we could measure it. Question two. Let's assume we could define a rule of fairness. This is the supply side that I spoke of earlier of information exchange. Let's assume we could define a rule of fairness and say, \"Okay, it's fair for everybody to shift \"using the example I just gave of 1.8 units.\" How are we gonna distinguish quote, unquote this economic information with news and other information for which the United States of America cannot constitutionally tolerate an externally imposed definition of fairness? Any treaty, any GATT treaty, by definition is a set of rules imposed by consensus among countries on the nations that signed the treaty, ratified the treaty in their respective parliaments. Well, our First Amendment says Congress shall pass no law. We're gonna have a tough time having Congress ratify that treaty. Now let's assume that we could count it and we could get Congress to ratify it. And that it wasn't a constitutional question. Question three. How will any agreement covering this information trade, this information exchange, this international communications, how will any agreement establishing fairness be enforced without the same kind of government monitoring and regulation of information flows that previously the US has sought to avoid? Setting up an agreement only makes sense if you can have somebody at a border or customs house counting and saying, \"Well, you didn't obey the rules.\" If everybody can be trusted, we don't have to force anything, we don't have to have an agreement in the first place. We only set up these rules because we feel that somebody might try and take a little advantage. Well, I don't have to tell you in the audience that even if we could tolerate it constitutionally, it's probably impossible to do physically. What happens when, using the John Deere example, they go from Manheim, Germany, straight to their headquarters in where'd you say, Moline, Indiana, or Moline, Illinois? How are we gonna impose the government, the United States government, or a foreign government? How are we gonna impose the government in that process? So what I have done here without talking about the New World Information Order, what I have done is shown you that the development of or the evolution of if you will, international information exchange is a major economic issue is now running into precisely the same physical, technical, ideological, constitutional, political problems that the restrictions on journalists ran into in the 70s. Namely, we can't define fairness. We can't count it. We can't enforce it, but the US is charging ahead anyway. Now that's the non-controversial part of my speech. Let's talk about how all of this relates to the rest of the world trade issues because you have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know that international trade is becoming a pretty big issue. Here in Iowa, you've been inundated by presidential candidates, right? And they all, particularly the front-runners on the democratic side, seem to be outdoing themselves. And things are gonna do it in Japan because Japan is being very terrible to us. And we're being harmed, treated unfairly, and otherwise bullied around, right? Well, international issues don't occur in isolation. It is not the case that you can sit down with sovereign nations and talk about international communications or high technology or trade and services, and then leave the room and have no fallout, no spillover effect to autos and steel, and Honda motorcycles or Harley Davidsons or whatever the latest the problem is. You can't even isolate it from your own government's actions which don't have international counterparts. For example, on the New World Information Order, the greatest single blow that the United States struck for the other side was to not plug the press into Grenada. It is very difficult to stand in front of a foreign government and say, \"We believe in the sanctity of the First Amendment,\" and then have your own president say, \"Well, they can't go in, sorry, guys.\" I'm not trying to be critical in a partisan way, but I can tell you from my own experience, even under President Carter that it's very difficult to stand in front of foreign governments when your own government is shooting your ankles out from under you, so to speak. Now there's a growing support in the United States for various forms of local content issues, various forms by America proposals. Content is most popularly discussed in terms of automobiles. And the House of Representatives just passed a local content proposal that an increasing percentage of automobiles sold in the United States have got to be, have American content. This is the precise way of saying it, that is it's gotta be built with American parts or American labor. And it escalates up in a gradual curve by America proposals in procurement, particularly government procurement. You're gonna buy from cement when you build a bridge from a government, from an American company. Well, in essence, what the US is doing is is arguing that its industries are being disadvantaged by unfair competition. Those other guys are being bad to us and we're gonna get even with them. At the same time, US trade policy through things I had mentioned earlier and through other things which we can perhaps talk about more in the question period, the same time, US trade policy is being directed toward the reduction of those exact same kind of barriers of other countries, local content restrictions, procurement restrictions, in the information-based high technology area. Services and information flows, making the computers and the like. For example, the US complains extensively when Japan and other countries restrict access to the telecommunications equipment markets. The President just left Japan, and one of the principle issues that he was supposed to discuss was the restrictions that NTT, the Japanese telephone company has, or allegedly has, depending on your point of view, on procurement by a foreign spies. The US complains when our best friends, the Canadians to the North or the West, Germans, very close ally of ours, impose local content requirements on data processing. You can't sit down at a terminal, computer terminal in West Germany and automatically go to a computer in the United States of America. You've got to do some form of processing in Germany, partial processing, before you bounce up to the satellite or the undersea cable or whatever. The Germans will argue vehemently with you that that's not a trade restriction. They do it for technical reasons and they're not protecting their industries. And because I was a former negotiator and written on this, I've gotten letters from the German industry saying, \"Stop that. \"Don't say that now.\" I say, \"Well, I'm only quoting US government\" And the US government says, \"Are you crazy? \"That's the restriction.\" They don't say it in quite those terms. If you're quoting me, that's the one phrase you shouldn't quote. But that's a local content requirement, a local processing requirement. The US complains when Brazil has local content requirements, not only on data processing and the supply of computer hardware, but on the supply of computer software as well. Brazil has a stated policy. It's enunciate rated eloquently in a book about an inch and a half thick that they've submitted to the UN Center on Transnational Corporations, that they want to transfer software technology to Brazil. So you have to gotta down there. If you write your own programs for your computer, you go down to Brazil, you're company, you got to transfer those to a Brazilian company. Well, obviously, there's an interrelation here. And it is my argument that in the emerging international marketplace protectionism is a particularly disastrous policy for US high technology industries. Even if the protectionism under consideration is protectionism for a traditional industry like automobiles or steel. By high technology, I'm using an umbrella phrase that includes the information-based service industries as well as the more familiar equipment manufacturers. We cannot persuade other countries not to erect barriers to the emerging high technology and information industries which are our areas of strength and comparative advantage. While at the same time, we are contemplating or we are imposing similar restrictions in areas where we are weak or not competitive such as automobiles and steel and wood. Other countries all see the need to develop and maintain a national capability in the critical high technology industries. We cannot claim that these are the industries of the future. We cannot claim that our own technological competitiveness requires the economies of scale of a global marketplace. The Japanese have got a let us in because it makes no sense for them to come here if we can't go there. We can't claim that at the same time when we are legitimizing various policies of protectionism by our own actions. Just doesn't work. It's logically inconsistent. Moreover, it's against own self-interest. If the US supports the principle of an open, competitive marketplace for the simple reason that it fosters the best products, best services at the lowest possible prices. We can't argue this in foreign capitals if we don't believe it in Washington. We can't argue against trade barriers abroad When we're talking of erecting them at home. We simply cannot have selective protectionism in the industries of our choice. Since I've gotten no tomatoes so far, you're either asleep or not members of the UAW. I aimed for 45 minutes, and according to my digital watch, which I can just about see, I'm pretty close. Let me close my prepared remarks by citing to you the conclusions of a report to the Congress by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration on these issues. This is my old alma mater, my old agency. And I'm quoting now. This report was transmitted, I think, in February or March of this year. \"The United States economic defense and political interests in the international telecommunications and information and services have become increasingly vulnerable to adverse foreign actions as a consequence of events over the past decade. The specific national and international developments are more than isolated instances, posing resolvable short-run problems for the United States. Collectively, they reflect the emergence of restrictive trends in the international telecommunications and information environment. Projected into the future, a gradual erosion of the United States' position in the telecommunications, information flow, and associated high technology markets may result absent prompt remedial action. If we wait another 10 years before we counter these trends, after seven more critical international conferences, and many more attacks on the free flow, free trade of goods, services, and ideas, it will be too late. The likely impact on US defense capabilities, on employment and economic growth and on freedom itself will be catastrophic. There is great international strength in US ideas, technology, and free enterprise. There is great weakness and danger in complacency and-\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105747#t=0.0,2756.33633"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e And free enterprise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=5.13,6.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is great weakness and danger","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=6.7,8.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in complacency and indecision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=8.83,10.483"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I should, perhaps, that's the end of the 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coincides","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=16.11,19.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the dismantling of NTIA's capability","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=19.2,22.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the international telecommunications","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=22.29,23.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and information area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=23.75,24.893"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=26.12,26.953"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That concludes my prepared remarks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=26.953,29.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd love to have at it with some 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UAW.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=58.79,62.324"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience member laughs)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=62.324,64.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am told that in Iowa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=64.73,68.543"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there is in fact a split within the UAW,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=69.41,71.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have no, ya know, direct knowledge of this,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=71.82,74.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but this is what one hears in Washington,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748#t=74.67,77.333"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36628/file/105748/transcript/22762/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because the UAW in Iowa at least 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And free enterprise. There is great weakness and danger in complacency and indecision. I should, perhaps, that's the end of the quote. I should perhaps note the irony that the issuance of that report and that conclusion coincides with the dismantling of NTIA's capability in the international telecommunications and information area. Thank you very much. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'd love to have at it with some questions.\r\n\r\n- How does the UAW answer those remarks, officially and unofficially?\r\n\r\n- The question was how does the UAW answer my remarks officially and unofficially? Well, first of all, I'm obviously not a spokesman for UAW. I am told that in Iowa, there is in fact a split within the UAW, I have no, ya know, direct knowledge of this, but this is what one hears in Washington, because the UAW in Iowa at least recognizes that while some of its members may be advantaged by import restrictions on automobiles, that others of its members may be disadvantaged by restrictions, the people that build the tractors and that sell to the farmers, and the farmers are arguably one of the groups that are going to be most jeopardized if we start walls of protectionism, that our farm exports will be the first area of retaliation. Ya know, I don't know how they answer it. You talk in Washington with, or you hear in Washington, let's say, that even the people voting for this bill don't want it to pass, that they wanna see it as a signal, a symbol of U.S. resolve. Certainly many in the UAW believe that import restrictions on automobiles is the absolute right course of action. The problem that you have, and we don't need to pick on the UAW, but the problem that you have, 'cause there are lots of examples in other industries, is that restrictions help one group at the expense of another. It is probably the case that in the short term if we impose restrictions on the import of cars, particularly from Japan, that there will be an increase in the number of auto worker jobs in the United States. It is also arguably the case by the people who disagree that the cost to the consumer goes up, allegedly a thousand dollars per car, and that other sectors lose those jobs. And so the UAW says it's gonna be a net gain of some hundred thousand jobs, and the opponents argue that it's going to be a net decrease of 66,000 jobs. Any group that is losing competitiveness in an area will argue for a trade restriction. And for those of you with more silver hair in the audience, what we're talking about now is exactly what happened in the 1930s with the Smoot-Hawley Tariffs. The problem is everybody wants to get a little advantage vis-a-vis the next guy, or said another way, said more politely, everybody wants to get a little less disadvantaged vis-a-vis another guy. So then everybody starts raising tariff barriers and they start to inch up, and what happens is a contraction in the system. We cut out our imports of a particular product, let's say sugar or something like that, then the third world nations don't have hard currency from the sale of sugar to, therefore, go out and buy U.S. goods. And it all cascades, it's all interwoven. And there are really two fundamental solutions, one of which I would argue doesn't work, UAW would argue does. One solution is to get even with that country and that area on that product line, and the other is to just back off and ease off and lower the barriers. I guess I'm using this as a soapbox, 'cause I can't really speak for the UAW, but surely they argue the exact opposite point of view that I am arguing. They do not see it the way I see it. My judgment, I've got a different point of view and different interests than the total American interest, but certainly, it is argued that even if we had Japan remove every trade barrier that allegedly Japan has, that our $20 billion trade surplus would only be lowered by $2 billion, $18 billion. And as long as capital moves to the United States because we have high interest rates and because we are a safe, secure haven for capital, a stable country, even if we have low interest rates, capital still moves here. As long as that occurs, as long as the yen has some problems, but the yen is still, even if we raise the level of the yen 20%, the United States is still the place where people wanna work, where people wanna invest their money, where people wanna live, and it's very difficult to sort that out. And the United States is not the economic, pitiful, helpless giant, that reading all the newspapers would have you believe us to be. We're still better off economically than any place else in the world. And there is a natural period of adjustment. I guess I should make one point. What's different about this situation from the 1930s, and probably this is the killer, this is the critical thing, it's not just a small difference, it's the difference. What's happening is a change is happening too rapidly. Technology, whether it's chips in your Apple computer and your IBM Peanut or international communications and satellites is being collapsed in time. And whereas you normally had, ya know, the Industrial Revolution, we had 70 years to adjust. The Information Revolution is happening in the wink of an eye, and the problem is that people can't adjust. And if, let me give you another statistic, if you believe that we in the United States are in such deep troubles, think back that in the last decade we created in this country, 15% new jobs. The number of jobs in the United States grew by 15%. In the 10 nations of the European community, the number of jobs grew in the same period by half a percent. We still managed to absorb a great number of women moving into the workplace and displaced workers, and we're still doin' well. That's the problem. Europe can't adjust, Japan's having trouble, the third world's having trouble, and you can't fit all those square pegs into round holes. I guess I haven't answered your question, but I spent five minutes trying to duck it. I don't know the answer to your question, really, what the UAW says.\r\n\r\n- What are some of the impacts of the changes that we can expect as this computerization takes place throughout the next 10 to 30 years? And if you could speak nationally and globally.\r\n\r\n- The question was a pretty broad question. What are some of the impacts that can be expected from increasing automation, computerization both domestically and internationally? I could give a whole talk on that and I believe there are a couple, so. You're gonna talk about that, right? Yeah, so there's a distinguished colleague of mine is in the back of the room and will speak tomorrow on that precise subject, but never one to duck a question. Let's see if I can come up with a few interesting points. There's so much to say, but I think I would like to answer your question by saying that the technological change is going to pierce existing boundaries, both political, in the sense of geographic nation states, and jurisdictional, the FCC's jurisdiction, the state of Iowa's jurisdiction, the city of Des Moines' or Ames' jurisdiction. And we set up a structure over the last 5,000 years, roughly, which is civilized man, that was based on a premise that will no longer be valid. I would wager that a very high percentage, for example, of the governments of the world, including the United States two weeks ago in Grenada, controls the flow of information to its citizens. Now, what's gonna happen when technologically that's not possible? Think of the Soviet Union as an example. Let's just say they're different from us. Not bad, not good, just different. Well, what's gonna happen when the party apparatus can no longer control what the individual Soviet citizen sees or hears? Profound political change in the Soviet Union, in my judgment. I don't say it's for the good or for the bad, but it's clearly a change that's gonna occur. All of these information exchange issues that I spoke about, the only real solution is governments get outta their way, because there's no place to put the government. You can't put it on a satellite. You can't put it in an undersea cable. You can't count the bits of information. You can't value the information. Same thing happens domestically. The conversion to a service economy, which is something that's been studied both in this country and in other countries, the information economy, how many workers of the country actually move information as opposed to build products? The number is phenomenal, very phenomenal. Well, basic rules of commerce changed. I referred earlier to photocopying. What happens when a creator, an inventor cannot be guaranteed that he will have the fruits of his effort? When I built something, I could get some legal protection around it, and the legal protection fundamentally ensured that I built it, I made it, and you gotta pay me for it. Well, that's not the case in the information-based service economy. You can pick signals outta the air, you can photocopy information, and despite all the legal protections in the world, it's probably the case that a lot of it can't be protected. Now, is that gonna change the incentives of the market structure? Tremendously, tremendously, and I'm probably giving your speech so I should stop, but I don't think any of us really knows how the market structures, how the political entities, the economic entities, are going to survive the transfer. The rules of the game, the basic assumptions are gonna change out from under us, they're gonna change very rapidly out from under us.\r\n\r\n- When you say very rapidly, the size of change you're talking about will seem rapid if it happens in 20 years. So, I guess I don't know how rapidly.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I think they'll happen... The comment was the size of the changes would seem rapid if they happened in 20 years. I think they'll happen in shorter than 20 years. I think they're happening, that happened in the last five, and they're gonna happen in the next 10, many of these changes. I think you'll see major changes. Ya know, I can point to examples past, I can point examples that are comin' down the road in the next few months. I mean, this is a very fundamental change and it manifests itself in some obvious ways. Let me just give you one and I'll go to another question. What governments fundamentally do is try to control things. They try to pull this lever or press this dial, turn this button, whatever, to make things okay for their citizens. There are no levers that the government can pull. The whole point of my talk was to talk about the government's efforts, of other countries and the United States government, to try and somehow manage this change, a set of rules, control this, do that, and the problem is that the instinct of governments to control, to manage won't work. All right.\r\n\r\n- I guess you might have answered it, but I'd like to maybe to say a little bit more about it in terms of, you seem to be saying that even though governments can't restrict this change, at the same time what I got from your discussion is that they're making an awful strong effort to try and do somethin' about it. So, it seems to me what might happen in the future as all the communications increase, is in fact more restrictive governmental policy rather than less. And could you maybe comment further on how that is really not gonna be possible as that seems to be the gist of your argument.\r\n\r\n- The question was could I comment further on this seeming paradox of governments trying to control something that maybe is perhaps inherently uncontrollable and what will the effect of that be? Is that fairly straight? The answer is yes. I mean, I believe that, even though I am obviously a Democrat from a Democratic administration, I believe that the best statesman in Washington either side of the aisle right now is Bill Brock, U.S. trade representative. I think he's doing things very right. On the other hand, I don't agree with some of the places he's coming out. It's not a partisan attack. It's an intellectual disagreement. I think that, I guess I'm resigned to the fact having seen government from both sides, that governments can't do nothing. It's just not an option. You can't stand in front of a UAW meeting and say, \"Well, guys, and women, tough, sorry.\" You gotta do something. I mean, if I had my choice, I'd probably erase the Congress for six months and let the dust settle and start over again. I think it'd be easier. Though the USTR premise to a certain extent is the premise that's in your question. They believe in the USTR in the current administration that the only way to diminish the growth of restrictions, if that metaphor works, the only way to slow down the rate at which barriers are being created around the world by other governments, is to sit down in a multi-lateral forum and have a set of rules agreed upon. All the foreign governments principally are saying, \"We don't wanna sit down and negotiate our rights away because we wanna set up the barriers.\" And the U.S. is saying, \"Well, if we don't set these rules the barriers are gonna go faster.\" That's the point I made at the beginning. My problem with the current administration's policy is not that premise. It's the next step of then what they're trying to do because I don't think what they're trying to do is gonna work, I think it's gonna backfire on 'em, but I agree with the premise. So, what else does one do? Well, frankly, one attends lectures like this when one could be out doing a lot of other things because in my own view, and particularly reinforced by my government experience, is that I think the way this problem will be solved is by non-governmental channels. I've seen it over and over and over again. That what really happens is you get the people in Brazil, the businessmen talking with the people in the United States, the businessmen, and they say, \"Wait a minute, this ain't gonna work.\" We wanna sell widgets and you wanna sell widgets, and we gotta ease down.\" Governments, when ya sit there, when there's that flag in front of you, when you're representing your country, you've got to do a series of things, you've got to say a series of things because it's expected. You've got to stake out positions for the the show of it, the visibility of it. That's not necessarily bad or good, it's just the way it is. I mean, you would never see the United States and the USR say, \"Wait, let's cut a deal. We'll divide it by two and we'll resolve this.\" Okay, I mean, it gets into a geopolitical atmosphere, and fortunately in the international communications arena, in my experience in the last 5 to 10 years, the business community, the multinationals have recognized that what's at stake is their very survivability in this whole business. And being businessmen, they wanna survive, make money. That's not unfair. And they see the necessity to get heavily involved. So, you've got a modest number of companies very heavily involved in this issue, going to meetings, attending discussions and the like. I wish it were more companies on both sides of the oceans, but my real answer to how we get out of this mess, or how do we sort of push back the disaster I think is through private dialogue. I've seen that in countless cases occur where we as government officials only had so much latitude, but it's the private sector. It really is international communication in the truest sense of the word, and it's exactly like these kinds of discussions. You start to propagate, you build it up. One of you in this audience may three to five years be involved in a situation like this and you say, \"Wait a minute. Ya know, if we do X it may have a ripple effect or backfire some other way.\" I mean, that's the way it happens. There's nothin' elegant about it.\r\n\r\n- Isn't the desire to limit the flow, transport of flow of information to a certain extent the desire by governments to tariff, to redistribute income?\r\n\r\n- Absolutely, absolutely.\r\n\r\n- Given that, how do you get governments to stop trying to redistribute income by levying tariffs and imposing taxes and so forth?\r\n\r\n- You got a problem there because governments do two things, okay? They raise armies, but how do they tariff software, knowledge, and communications? Once again, you reach a fundamental dilemma. I mean, the French proposal to tariff software is protectionist and aimed at promoting the French market, that's true, but it's also aimed at sustaining the French government. They have got to have a revenue base. Now, a study done by a fellow who's a friend of mine, a colleague at the East-West Center, Ken Leeson, in part, which was reported in this NTIA document, says that, he's an economist and I am not, the economic solution is not to tariff at the intermediate stage of production. You don't tariff the information exchange, you tariff the final output. Other economists don't feel that way. It is alleged in the United States that sooner or later for fairness and for revenue raising, we oughta go to a value-added tax or a consumption tax or something like that. Now, politically, that's probably very impossible, but governments have a problem with raising revenue as more and more commercial activity centers around the movement of information, 'cause you don't know what to tariff. So, it's a true problem.\r\n\r\n- This negotiation that you're indicating goes on, are the communist countries in on this? What are they saying?\r\n\r\n- I referred to multiple negotiations, so I'll take your question to be where are the communist countries on this generally? Generally not. Principally in the UN system, they're involved. And that's both from an ideological point of view and from a developmental point of view. The less developed countries see this as a train leaving station and they wanna get on it. That's not an unreasonable point of view. And if you read the popular press every day, you know the world is changing. And if you were a less developed country, you would say, \"Well, we missed the Industrial Age, but we wanna go to the Information Age.\" And many governments of the world believe, and I think rightly so to a degree, that they can skip certain stages of industrial development. That is, you don't have to have a steel mill in every Chad or Nigeria or whatever. You can go right to some information-based activities, and moreover, you can bring in information infrastructures and develop education and move the population very quickly, and satellites can take the place of wiring phone systems and all that. The communist countries by and large don't see this in quite those terms, anyway. I mean, most of the communist countries are pretty well into the Industrial Age and moving into the Information Age, so their tendency to avoid Western economic fora, is part of the larger ideological avoidance of capitalistic kinds of economic discussions. But even there, you probably see that breaking down fairly quickly. The principal problem is that much of the technology in this area is, again, subject to restrictions by the United States. We believe in the free flow of information and technology except to the bad guys. So, we kinda cut off all sorts of things. I'll bet most of you don't know that when the president prohibited Dresser Industries from selling pipe laying parts and to Dresser France selling stuff to the Soviets, the way that was implemented was that they wouldn't let Dresser France access Dresser U.S. computers. Transporter data flow restriction. So, that's another example of some inconsistencies on our part, but that, too, is being thrashed out right now in the Congress, the renewal of the Export Administration Act. But by and large, the communist world doesn't participate in these fora generally, and this issue has just come so fast in 5, 10 years, really, that their systems don't react that quickly. I read something on the plane on the way up that the Soviet Union is like a ship and the captain turns the wheel very quickly, but the rudder goes very slowly and turns very slowly. I think that's the case as we're witnessing now with the potential shift post-Andropov. So, it's not the kind of thing, I had the chance to talk with a Soviet government official just before I left the government, and he was in the Academy for the USA and the U.S. and Canada, and he basically was still making the distinction of the centrally managed versus decentrally managed society, and he argued that computers wouldn't change that a lot. And it was obviously a substantive and an ideological argument all in one, and I just substantively disagreed with him. I said, ya know, \"If ya ever got all that equipment in there it's gonna dramatically change your society.\" Of course he could never admit that to me even if he believed it, but that's what I think they're going through now, and I think you're gonna have to see a generational turnover at least in the leadership of those countries. Now, the situation with the People's Republic of China is a little different, and I'm certainly not an authority on China, but arguably they have gone through a period of upheaval and turmoil with the Cultural Revolution, and if the supporters of Deng Xiaoping remain and sort of influence the moderates, you will be seeing a lot more technology move into that country very quickly. And certainly the American companies wanna do it, and the United States has recently modified the export category for the People's Republic of China to enable them to get more technology. And, it's a very elaborate mating dance which is wound up with Taiwan and things like that, but I think you will see the People's Republic of China move very rapidly. I don't think you'll see that with the Warsaw Pact nations, Eastern Europe. I appreciate your coming. 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