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And thank you all for coming. Our speaker today is Copellia Kahn. who comes to us from Middletown, Connecticut where she's an associate professor in the English department at Wesleyan university. She comes to us both as a Shakespearian and a feminist and I've found in talking to her she comes as many other things also but those are the two I'd like to introduce you to a bit with, with the collection of essay she edited with Marie Schwartz, representing Shakespeare contemporary psychoanalytic essays on Shakespeare. She's become a voice arguing cogently for the possibilities of historicized psychoanalysis in the study of Shakespeare. as a feminist critic, coppelia kahn has described her mission as discovering and restoring female perspectives and revising paradigms, which originate in male experience. Her book Man's Estate Masculine Identity in Shakespeare is a convincing display of the way such methodology can liberate new meanings from our Shakespearian texts. She is presently working on an expansion of this kind of study dealing with gender and genre and Renaissance tragedy. In addition to this study, she's also working on two other projects presently the one, a collection of essays which she says is very close to her heart edited with Peter Erickson. It will be titled Shakespeare's rough magic essays in honor of CL Barber, soon to be published by associated universities press. And the second co-edited with Gail green a collection of essays entitled feminist theory and criticism which will be published next fall by Methuen. Today she's speaking to us on King Lear and the title of the presentation is gender and generation in King Lear. Coppelia Kahn.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much Susan. It's a pleasure to be here. I might just say that the material in this paper or at least the approach is taken to the material well i think the unfamiliar too many people here judging from the papers we've heard in the discussion. And therefore I think you should be really frank in discussion afterward if you think this comes from that field and makes no sense I hope you will say so. And we can have some real discussion. To begin. Fleeing Gunnar rolls sharp tooth to unkindness, Lear arrives at Gloucester's house in search of Reagan's still hoping that she will be kind and comfortable though She was inexplicably not at home when he called before. He finds his messenger in the stocks a humiliation that he rightly takes as if it were directed at him personally. At first he simply denies what Kent tells him that Reagan and her husband did indeed commit this outrage. Then he seeks to understand how or why. Kent recounts the studied rudeness the successive insults, the final shaming which he has endured. For a moment Lear can no longer deny or rationalize. He can only feel feel a tumult of wounded pride, shame, anger, and loss which he expresses in a striking image. Oh, how this mother swells upward toward my heart hysterica passio down though climbing sorrow thy elements below. By calling his sorrow hysterical Lear decisively characterizes it as feminine. in accordance with the tradition stretching back to 1900 BC. When an Egyptian papyrus first described the melody of hysteria. 1500 years later in the writings of Hippocrates it was named and its name succinctly conveyed its etiology. It was the disease of histor the womb. From ancient times through the 19th century women suffering variously from choking, feelings of suffocation, partial paralysis, convulsions similar to those of epilepsy Aphasia, numbness and lethargy were said to be ill of hysteria caused by a wandering womb. What sent the womb on its errand path through the female body, people thought was either lack of sexual intercourse or retention of menstrual blood. In both cases, the same prescription obtained the patient should get married. A husband would keep that wandering womb where it belonged. in Shakespeare's time hysteria was also called appropriately the mother. Though Shakespeare may well have consulted a treatise by Edward Jordan called a brief discourse of a disease called the suffocation of the mother published in 16 three, like anyone in his culture he would have understood the mother in the context of notions about women. For hysteria is a vivid metaphor of woman in general, as she was regarded then and later. A creature destined for the strenuous labors of childbearing and child rearing, but nonetheless physically weaker than men. Moreover, she was like Eve temperamentally and morally infirm, skiddish prone to error in all senses. Woman's womb, her justification and her glory Was also the sign and source of her weakness as a creature of the flesh rather than of the mind or spirit, the very diversity of symptoms clustering under the name of hysteria. bespeaks the capricious nature of women and the remedy, a husband and regular sexual intercourse declares the necessity for male control of this volatile female element. psychoanalysis was born one might say when it emerged from the wandering womb of hysteria. Anna O, the star of studies in hysteria published by Freud and Yosef Broyer in 1895 was its midwife. It was she who named psychoanalysis, the talking cure. And in a sense even discovered it afflicted with a veritable museum of hysterical symptoms when Broyer visited her she spontaneously sank into a wrapped semi-conscious state in which she insisted on talking about what bothered her. And thus showed the way to free association as a distinctly psychoanalytic technique of treating mental disorders. For psychoanalysis and hysteria both the discovery that it strangely disparate physical symptoms were in fact symbolic representations of unconscious mental conflict constituted a crucial breakthrough, relocating the cause of hysteria in the head instead of in the womb. Broyer and Freud were able to make sense of it treat it and to an extent cure it. Yet in the Vietnamese women they treated We can see that hysteria does come from the womb. If we understand the womb as a metaphor for feelings and needs associated with women. As Diane Hunter points out, what Anna O talked out was hers, specifically female subjectivity. She expressed through the body language of her paralyzed arm, her squint and her speech disorders the effects on her as a woman of life in a father dominated family by the way her father was named Sigmund. And a male dominated world which suppressed the female voice the matrix of her disease was both sexual and social the patriarchal family. Because the family is both the first scene of individual development and the primary agent of socialization It functions as a link between psychic and social structures. And as the crucible in which gender identity is formed. From being mothered and fathered we learn to be ourselves as women and men. The anthropologist Gail Rubin described psychoanalysis as a theory of sexuality in human society. A description of the mechanisms by which the sexes are divided and deformed of how bisexual androgynous infants are transformed into boys and girls a feminist theory Monk Kidd. A great Shakespearian critic C.L Barber, calls psychoanalysis, a sociology of love and worship within the family. Freud of course, viewed this family drama from the standpoint of a son and conceive the development of gender as governed primarily by relationship with the father because Freud grounds sexual differentiation in the cultural primacy of the phallus within the context of a family structure which mirrors the psychological organization of patriarchal society. He enables us to deconstruct the modes of feeling the institutions and the social codes in which much, if not most of English literature is embedded but to use one of Freud's favorite metaphors to excavate patriarchal sensibility in literature we must sift through more than one layer. In the history of psychoanalysis the discovery of the Oedipus complex precedes the discovery of pre-Oedipal experience reversing the sequence of development in the individual. Similarly patriarchal structures loom obviously on the surface of many texts. Structures of authority control force, logic linearity misogyny, male superiority but underneath them as an appellant cest we can find what I call the maternal subtext. The imprint of mothering on the male psyche the psychological presence of the mother, whether or not mothers are literally represented as characters. In this reading of King Lear like an archeologist. I try to uncover the hidden mother in the heroes in our world. Now it is an interesting, and well-known fact that there is no literal mother in King Lear. The earlier anonymous play which is one of Shakespeare's main sources opens with a speech by the hero lamenting the death of his dearest queen. But Shakespeare who follows the play closely in many respects, makes only one passing reference to this queen. In the crucial cataclysmic first scene of the play from which all its later action evolves. We are aware only of fathers and their godlike capacity to make or Mar their children. Through this conspicuous omission, the play articulates a patriarchal conception of the family, in which children are thought to owe their existence to their fathers alone. The mother's role in procreation is eclipsed by the fathers which is used to affirm male prerogative and male power. The aristocratic patriarchal families headed by Gloucester and Lear have actually, and effectively no mothers. The only source of love power and authority is the father an awesome demanding presence. But what the play depicts of course is the failure of that presence. The failure of a father's power to command love and the emotional penalty he pays for wielding power his very insistence on paternal power in fact, belies its shakiness. Similarly the absence of the mother points to her hidden presence. As the lines with which I began might indicate. When Lear begins to feel a loss of Cordelia to be wounded by her sisters and to recognize his own vulnerability he calls his state of mind hysteria, the mother which I interpret as his repressed identification with the mother. Women and the needs and traits associated with them are supposed to stay in their element As Lear says below. Denigrated, silenced, denied. In this patriarchal world masculine identity depends on repressing the vulnerability dependency and capacity for feeling which are called feminine. Recent historical studies of the Elizabethan family of its social structure and emotional dynamics When psychoanalytic theory is brought to bear on them provide the backdrop against which Lear's family drama takes on new meaning as a tragedy of masculinity. Recently, several authors have analyzed mothering the traditional division of roles within the family which makes the woman primarily responsible for rearing as well as bearing the children. Mothering as a social institution sustained by patriarchy which intern reinforces it. Notably Nancy Chadorow offers an incisive critique of the psychoanalytic conception of the early mother child relationship and how it shapes the child's sense of maleness or femaleness. She argues that the basic masculine sense of self is formed through a denial of the male's initial connection with them and unity. A denial, which taints his attitudes toward women and impairs his capacity for affiliation in general. My interpretation of Lear comes out of the feminist re-examination now being carried on in many fields of the mothering role but it is particularly indebted to Nancy Chodorow analysis. According to her account, women as mothers produce daughters with mothering capacities and the desire to mother which itself grows out of a mother-daughter relationship. They also produce sons whose nurturant capacities and needs have been curtailed in order to prepare them to be fathers. A focus on the primacy of the mother's role in ego formation is not in itself new. It follows upon the attempts of theorists such as Melanie Klein, Michael and Alice Balland John Bowlby and Margaret Mahler to cast light on that dim psychic region, which Freud likened to the Minoan civilization preceding the greek gray with age and shadowy and almost impossible to reverify. What distinguishes chodorow's account of the mother-child relationship from those in the mainstream of psychoanalytic thought however is that she challenges their assumptions about the role of gender and family in the formation of the child's ego and sexual identity. Because I find family relationships and gender identity central to Shakespeare's imagination. The most valuable aspect of Chodorow's work for me is its comparative perspective on the development of gender in the sexes. For both the mother's rather than the father's role is the important one as crucial to the child's individuation development of a sense of self as to the child's sense of gender. It is only for the purpose of analysis that the two facets of identity, gender and self can be separated. Both sexes begin to develop a sense of self in relation to a mother woman, but a girl sense of femaleness arises through her infantile union with the mother and later identification with her while a boy sense of maleness arises in opposition to those primitive forms of oneness. According to Robert Stoller whose work corroborates chodorow's argument \"developing indissoluble links with mothers femaleness and femininity in the normal mother infant symbiosis can only augment a girl's identity. While for a boy the whole process of becoming masculine is endangered by the primary profound primal oneness with mother\" A girl's gender identity is reinforced but a boys is threatened by union and identification with the same powerful female being. Thus as Chodorow argues the masculine personality tends to be formed through denial of connection with femininity. Certain activities must be defined as masculine and superior to the maternal world of childhood and women's activities must correspondingly be denigrated. The process of differentiation is inscribed in patriarchal ideology, which polarizes male and female social roles and behavior. The imprint of mothering on the male psyche the psychological presence of the mother in men whether or not mothers are represented in the texts they write or in which they appear as characters can be found throughout the literary Canon. But it is Shakespeare who renders the dilemmas of men who had most compellingly and with the greatest inside, partly because he wrote at a certain historical moment. As part of a wide ranging argument for the role of the nuclear family and shaping what he calls affective individualism. Lauren Stone a social historian holds that the family of Shakespeare's day was characterized by a striking increase in the father's power over his wife and children. Stone's ambitious thesis has been strenuously criticized but his description of the Elizabeth and family itself though not his notion of its place in the development of an effective individualism holds true. Stone sums up the mode of a father's dominance this way This 16th century aristocratic family was Patra linear primogenitor and patriarchal. Patra linear in that it was the male line whose ancestry was traced so diligently by the genealogists and heralds and in almost all cases via the male line that titles were inherited. Primogenitor in that most of the property went to the eldest son the younger brothers being dispatched into the world with little more than an annuity to keep or life interest in a small estate to keep them afloat. And patriarchal in that the husband and father lorded it over his wife and children with the crayzie absolute authority of a desk bot. Patriarchy articulated through the family was considered the natural order of things but like other kinds of natural order it was subject to historical change. According to stone, between 1580 and 1640 two forces one political and one religious converged to heighten paternal power in the family. As the tutors Stuart state consolidated itself it tried to erode ancient baronial loyalty to the crown. As part of the same campaign the state also encouraged obedience to the pot hair familiar in the home. According to the traditional analogy between state and family ,King and father. James the first declared Kings are compared to fathers and families for a King is truly parents patriachal the politic father of his people. The state thus had a direct interest in reinforcing patriarchy in the home. Concurrently puritan fundamentalism, the literal interpretation of mosaic law in its original patriarchal context reinforced patriarchal elements in Christian doctrine and practices well. As head of the household the father took over many of the priests functions leading his extended family of dependence and daily prayers questioning them as to the state of their souls giving or withholding his blessing on their undertakings. Though Protestant divines argued for the spiritual equality of women deplore the double standard and exalted the married state for both sexes. At the same time, they zealously advocated that subjection of wives to their husbands on the scriptural grounds that the husband beareth the image of God. Heaven and home were both patriarchal. The homily on the state of matrimony one of those issued by the crown to be read in parish churches weekly. Quotes and explicates the Paul line admonition let women be subject to their husbands as to the Lord for the husband is the head of the woman as Christ is the head of the church. In effect a woman's subjection to her husband's will was the measure of his patriarchal authority and thus of his manliness. The division of parental roles in child-rearing made children similarly subject to the father's will . In his study of Puritan attitudes toward authority and feeling David Levren finds an emphasis on the mother's role as tender nurturer of young children as against the father's role as disciplinarian and spiritual guide for the older children Mothers are encouraged to love their children openly in their early years but enjoined to withdraw their affections at just about the time the father's instructional role becomes primary. Thus, the breaking of the will is accomplished by the father rather than by both parents equally. Miss division of duties Levren holds fostered a pervasive polarity involving \"associations of feared aspects of oneself with weakness and women emphasis on male restraint and the male mind's governance a female emotions. The separation of head from body a language of male anxiety rather than a female deficiency\" A close look at the place for scene reveals much about loneliness and the male anxiety accompanying it. The court is gathered to watch Lear divide his kingdom and divest himself of its rule. But those purposes are actually accessory to another which touches him more nearly giving away his youngest daughter in marriage. While France and burgundy wait in the wings Cordelia for whose hand they compete also competes for the dowry which will make her a viable bride. As Linda Booze shows this opening scene is a variant of the wedding ceremony which dramatize the bond between father and daughter even as it marks the severance of the bond. There is no part in the ritual for the bride's mother rather the bride's father hands her directly to her husband thus the ritual articulates the father's dominance both as procreator and as authority figure to the eclipse of the mother in either capacity. At the same time, he symbolically certifies her virginity thus the ceremony eludes to the incest taboo and raises a question about Lear's darker purpose in giving Cordelia away. In view of the ways that Lear tries to manipulate this ritual So is to keep his hold on Cordelia at the same time that he has ostensibly giving her away. We might suppose that the emotional crisis precipitating the tragic action is Lear's frustrated incestuous desire for his daughter. For in the course of winning her dowry cordelia is supposed to show that she loves her father not only more than her sisters do but as she rightly sees more than she loves her future husband. Similarly, when Lear disowns and disinherits Cordelia he thinks he has rendered dowered only with his curse unfit to marry and thus unable to leave paternal protection. In contrast however I want to argue that the socially ordained and developmentally appropriate surrender of Cordelia as daughter wife the renunciation of her as incestuous object awakens a deeper emotional need in Lear. The need for Cordelia as daughter, mother. The place beginning as I've said is marked by the omnipotent presence of the father and the absence of the mother. Yet in Lear's scheme for parceling out the kingdom we can discern a child's image of being mothered. He wants to mutually exclusive things at once to have absolute control over those closest to him and to be absolutely dependent on them. Anybody who's ever cared for a toddler knows what this means. We can recognize in this stance the outlines of a child's pre Oedipal experience of himself and his mother as an undifferentiated dual unity in which the child perceives his mother not as a separate person but as an agency of himself who provides for his needs. She and her breasts are part of him at his command. In Freud's unforgettable phrase he is, his majesty the baby. As man father and ruler Lear has habitually suppressed any needs for love which in his patriarchal world would normally be satisfied by a mother or mothering woman. with age and loss of vigor and as Freud suggests in the theme of the three caskets with the prospect of his return to mother earth. Lear feels those needs again and hints at them and his desire to crawl like a baby toward death. Significantly he confesses those needs and these phrases the moment after he curses Cordelia for her silence the moment in which he denies them most strongly he says I loved her most and thought to set my rest on her kind nursery. When his other two daughters proved to be bad mothers and don't satisfy his needs for nursery. Lear is seized by the mother a searing sense of loss at the deprivation of the mother's presence. It assaults him in various ways in the desire to weep to mourn the enormous loss and the equally strong desire to hold back the tears and instead accuse or rain convict, punish, and humiliate those who have made him realize his dependency. Thus the mother revealed in Lear's response to his daughter's brutality toward him makes her re-entry into the patriarchal world from which she had seemingly been excluded. The repressed mother returned specifically in Lear's wrathful projections onto the world about him of a symbiotic relationship with his daughters. A relationship that recapitulates his pre Oedipal relationship with the mother and his striking series of images in which parent-child father, daughter, and husband wife relationships are reversed and confounded. Lear re-enacts a childlike rage against the absent or rejecting mother as figured in his daughters. Here i want to interject a speculation inspired by Lauren Stone's discussion of the custom of farming children out to wet nurses from birth until they were 12 to 18 months old. At that point they were restored to the arms of the woman regarded as their natural mother who by that time must've seemed a stranger to them. Many if not most people in the Gentry or aristocracy of Shakespeare's day, must've suffered the severe trauma of maternal deprivation brought on by the departure of the wet nurse. We know the effects of such a trauma from the writings of John Bowlby a tendency to make excessive demands on others anxiety and anger when these demands are not met and a blocked capacity for intimacy. Lear responds to the loss of Cordelia the nurse he rejects after she seems to reject him. By demanding hospitality for his hundred nights by raging Goneril and Regan when they refuse him courtesy and sympathy and by rejecting human society, when he stalks off to the Heath. After the division of the kingdom, he reenters the play in the fourth scene with this revealing peremptory demand. Let me not stay a jot for dinner, go get it ready. He wants food from a maternal woman. In general i believe that Lear's madness is essentially his rage at being deprived of the maternal presence. It is tantalizing though i can imagine no way to prove it to view this rage as part of the social pathology of wet nursing in the ruling classes. The play is full of oral rage in fantasies of biting and devouring and more specifically fantasies of parents eating children and children eating parents. The idea is first brought up by Lear when he denies his propinquity and property of blood with Cordelia that is, he denies that he begot her that, he is her father as he also denies paternity of Regan and Goneril later He assures her the Bob or Ascidian or he that makes his generation messes to Gorge his appetite shall to my bosom be as well neighbored, pitied and relieved as thou my sometime daughter. The savagery of this image is shocking. It indicates Lear's first step toward the primitive infintile modes of thinking to which he surrenders in his madness. When Cordelia doesn't feed him with love he thinks angrily of eating her. Lear again voices, this complex conjunction of ideas about maternal nurture maternal aggression and aggression against the mother When he looks at Edgar's mutilated body bleeding from its many wounds and remarks is it the fashion that discarded fathers should have thus little mercy on their flesh judicious punishment towards this flesh begot those Pelican daughters. Lear seems to think that Edgar first aggressed against his father by discarding him as Regan and Goneril, all discarded Lear and that Edgar's father then got back at his child his flesh in the flesh as Lear would like to do. But this fantasy of revenge calls forth and answering fantasy of punishment against his own flesh a punishment he deserves for begetting children in the first place. The image of the Pelican may have been suggested to Shakespeare by a passage in a contemporary text which I will quote because it elucidates both the reciprocating spiral of aggression and revenge and the close identification between parent and child, which possesses Lear's mind. You can find this in the new Arden edition. It's from Batman uppon Bartholome. The Pelican loveth too much her children for when the children be hot and begin to act hot they smite the father and mother in the face wherefore the mothers smite my them again and slayeth them. And the third day, the mother's smiteth herself in the side that the blood runneth out and shed it that hot blood upon the bodies of her children. And by virtue of the blood the birds that were before dead Quicken again. The children strike their parents the mother retaliates then wounds herself that the children may nurse on her blood. It just sounds like a version in the hyperbole of many a family dispute, right? Is it not Lear? asks as this mouth should tear this hand for lifting food to it, referring to phileo in gratitude. His daughters are the mouths he fed that now tear their father's generous hand but at the same time, he is the needy mouth that would turn against those daughters for refusing to feed him on demand. Lear's rage at not being fed by the daughters who Pelican like he has nurtured, fills the play. It is mirrored in Albany's vision of all humanity preying upon itself like monsters of the deep a vision inspired by the reality of Goneril turning her father out in the storm. And shortly confirmed by the more gruesome reality of Regan and Cornwall tearing out another father's eyes. Bound up with this mixture of love and hate nurture and aggression is Lear's deep sense of identification with his daughters as born of his flesh. When Goneril beats him and returned to Regan's house rather than disrupt her own His first thought is absolute separation from her. Like his banishment of Cordelia will no more meet, no more see one another but immediately he remembers the filial bond for him a carnal as much as a moral bond but yet thou art my flesh my daughter. I'm sorry but yet that was my flesh, my blood, my daughter or rather a disease that's in my flesh which I needs must call mine that were a boil a plague store or embossing carbuncle in my corrupted blood. Gloucester echoes this same thought Riley to Lear on the Heath when he says our flesh and blood my Lord is grown so vile that it does hate what gets it. Children are products of an act which in Elizabethan law was regarded as the mingling of bloods. In the metaphor of Genesis repeated in the Anglican wedding service man and wife are one flesh with regard to mother and child though the fleshly bond is not metaphorical but literal. Lear as does Gloucester ignores the mother child fleshly bond and insists that his children are simply his flesh and blood. In the Pelican image he assimilates maternal functions to himself as though Goneril and Regan hadn't been born of woman . Like Prospero he alludes only once to his wife and in the context of adultery. when Reagan says she is glad to see her father, he replies. If thou should not be glad I would divorce me from my mother's tomb sepocrine and adulterous. These lines imply first, that Lear alone as progenitor endowed Regan with her moral nature. And second that if that nature isn't good she had some other father in either case her mother's only contribution was in the choice of a sexual partner. Thus Lear makes use of patriarchal ideology to serve his defensive needs. He denies his debt to a mother by saying that his daughters have no debts to her either Lear's agonizing consciousness that he did produce such monstrous children however persists despite his denial and leads him to project his loathing toward the procreative act onto his daughters in a searing indictment of women's sexuality. They fit you know the soiled horse goes to it with a more riotous appetite down from the waist they're centaurs the women all above, but to the girdle do the gods inherit beneath is all the fiends there's hell there is darkness, there is the sulfurous pit burning scalding stench corruption, fire, fire, fire pop pop. Even if he did beget these daughters Lear implies he's not answerable for their unkindness because they're after all women who are tainted rather than empowered as men are by their sexual capacities. Thus he presses into service another aspect of patriarchal ideology. It's misogyny to separate himself from any feminine presence. To return for a moment to the social dimensions of Lear's inner turmoil. It is important that generational conflicts entwined with and intensify gender conflicts. Lear and his daughters Gloucester and his sons are pitted against each other because the younger generation perceives the authority of the elder as \"the oppression of aged tyranny\". Stephen Greenblatt remarks that this period has a deep gerontological bias revealed in numerous claims that by the will of God and the natural order of things authority belong to the old. At the same time though, sermons, moral writings and folk tales of the kind on which Lear is based, voice the fear that if parents hand over their wealth or their authority to their children, these children will turn against them. The common legal practice of drawing up maintenance agreements testifies that this fear had some basis in actual experience in such contracts, children to whom parents deeded farm or workshop, were legally bound to supply food, clothing and shelter to their parents even to the precise number of bushels of grain or yards of cloth. Thus the law put teeth into what was supposed to be natural kindness. Lear's contest of love in the first scene functions like a maintenance agreement in that he tries to bind his daughters by means of giving them their inheritance while he is still alive into caring for him. This generational bargain is then complicated by the demands proper to gender as well. The father's emotional demand that his daughters be his mothers and perform the tasks of nurture proper to females. Regan and Goneril will betray and disappoint Lear by not being mothers to him, but in a deeper, broader sense they shame him by bringing out the woman in him. Shakespeare takes us close to the nerve and bone of Lear's shame at being reduced to an impotence he considers woman-ish in this speech. You see me here you God's, a poor old man as full of grief as age, wretched in both. If it'd be you that stirs these daughters hearts against their father. Fool me not so much, to bear it tamely touch me with noble anger and let not women's weapons water drops stain my men's cheeks. No you on natural hags, I will have such a vengeance on you both that the all world's shall. I will do such things what they are yet I know not, but they shall be the terrors of the earth. You think I'll weep? No, I'll not weep. I have full cause of weeping, but this heart shall break into a hundred thousand flaws or I'll weep. He calls his tears women's weapons, not only as a way of deprecating women for using emotion to manipulate men but also because he feels so threatened by his own feelings. Marianne Novak has argued that Lauren Stone in calling attention to that \"distance manipulation and deference\" which characterize the Elizabethan family identified a cultural ideal of Elizabethan society. A personality type that on the one hand kept feelings of attachment and grief under strict control. But on the other was more ready to express feelings of anger The model she comments was primarily a masculine ideal. In agreement I would suggest that this masculine ideal was produced by the extreme sexual division of labor within the patriarchal family, which made women at once the source and the focus of a child's earliest and most unmanageable feelings. Despite a lifetime of strenuous defense against admitting feeling and the power of feminine presence into his world, defense fostered at every turn by prevailing social arrangements. Lear manages to let them in. He learns to weep and though his tears scald and burn like molten lead they are no longer women's weapons against which he must defend himself. I will conclude this reading of the play by tracing in brief Lear's progress toward acceptance of the woman in himself. A progress punctuated at every turn, by his hysterical projections of rage at being deprived of maternal nurture. In the passage I just quoted as he turns toward the Heath, Lear prays that anger may keep him from crying from becoming like a woman. He also in effect tells us one way to read the storm as a metaphor for his internal emotional process. \"I have full cause of weeping but this heart shall break into a hundred thousand flaws or I'll weep\". Shakespeare portrays the storm as the breaking open of something enclosed. A break which lets out a flood of rain it thus resembles Lear's heart cracking, letting out the hungry mother identified part of himself in a flood of tears. Lear exhorts the winds to crack their cheeks and the thunder to crack nature's molds and spill their seeds. He envisions close pent-up gilts riven from their concealing continents. He wants the whole world struck flat and cleft open that the bowels of sympathy may flow. What spills out of Lear himself at first is a flood of persecutory fantasies. He sees everyone in his own image as either subjects or agents of persecution, only daughters like his he thinks could have subdued poor Tom to naked misery. Poor Tom and the fool are like him stern judges bringing his daughters to trial. And Gloucester is Goneril with a white beard. And then someone who might weep along with Lear though he has only the case of eyes. Before Shakespeare allows Lear to feel the weeping woman in himself or face his need for Cordelia and his guilt for the wrong he did her. He evokes and excoriates a world full of Viperish women. Interwoven with Lear's indictments of women during acts three and four are the imaginary lustful mistresses of poor Tom's sophisticated past. The wearers of plackets and rustling silks as well as the real Regan tearing out Gloucester's eyes and the real Goneril stealthy and lustful seducing Edmond and sloughing off Albany. It is as though Shakespeare, as well as his hero must grudge up everything horrible that might be imagined of women and denounce it before he can confront the good woman the one and only good woman, Cordelia. Cordelia's goodness is as absolute and inexplicable as her sisters were provable badness as much an archetype of infantile fantasy as they are. When she re-enters the play she has described as crying with pity for her father's sufferings yet in her tears she is still queen over her passion. Whereas Lear thought weeping an ignoble surrender of his masculine authority, Cordelia conceives her tears as a source of power. All blessed secrets, all you unpublished virtues of the earth spring with my tears, be adant and remediate in the Goodman's distress. In these scenes Cordelia becomes now in a benign sense that daughter mother Lear wanted her to be like the Virgin Mary she intercedes magically. Her empathy and pity coaxing mercy from nature. Yet finally, as the doctor's words imply she can only be the foster nurse of Lear's repose. Lear runs from the attendance Cordelia sends to rescue him who appear just after he poignantly evokes the crying infant as a common denominator of humanity. That must be patient we came crying hither. But notice the first time that we smell the air we Wal and cry. When we are born, we cry that we are come to this great stage of fools. Here he comes closest to admitting his vulnerability but must immediately defend against it and see her proffered help as a threat. Stanley Cavell has argued that the reluctance to be recognized by those they love most which characterizes Lear, Kent, Edgar and Gloucester lies at the heart of this play and that they are reluctant because they feel that their love, bespeaks a demeaning dependency. I agree and I regard that embarrassed shrinking from recognition as part of a masculine identity crisis in a culture which dichotomized power as masculine and feeling as feminine. And so Lear exits running in this scene asserting his kingship, come, come I am a King, but behaving like a mischievous child who makes his mother run after him come, come and you get it You should get it by running. When he reappears, he is helpless as a child sleeping and carried in by servants. He awakes in the belief that he has died and been reborn into an afterlife. And he talks about tears to Cordelia thou art a soul in bliss. But I am bound upon a wheel of fire, that my own tears do scald like molten lead. These are the tears of ashamed self knowledge manly tears caused by a realization of what his original childish demands on his daughters led to. In this scene, which I want to compare with the next to the next scene with Cordelia. Lear comes closer than he ever does later to a mature acceptance of his human dependency. He asserts his manhood and admits Cordelia's separateness from him. At the same time, that he confesses his need for her. He can say I'm a very fond foolish old man. And yet also declare for as I am a man I think this lady to be my child Cordelia. I want to pause at the three words, men, lady and child Lear acknowledges his manhood and his daughter's womanhood in the same line in the same breath. He can stop imagining her as the maternal woman he yearned for and accept his separateness from her. Yet he also calls her his child acknowledging the bond of paternity he denied in the first act. He need not be threatened by her autonomy as a person nor obsessed by the fleshly tie between them as parent and child . Lear struggled to discover or create a new mode of being based on his love for Cordelia continues to his last breath. Imagining their life together in prison. He transcends the rigid structure of command and obedience which once framed his world. come let's away to prison, we two alone will sing like birds in the cage. 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The, the question about the psychoanalysis of Lear,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1123.29,1128.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's true that Lear is free associating,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1128.43,1131.252"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but is Shakespeare in some sense, free associating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1131.252,1135.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He chose the story, and the images came off of the story,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1135.8,1140.051"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and are you really psychoanalyzing Shakespeare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1140.051,1143.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. I don't want to be,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1143.25,1145.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one could try,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1145.67,1147.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose, with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1147.26,1149.063"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's an interesting but very risky venture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1149.063,1152.406"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't have any generalizations to make","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1152.406,1155.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about Shakespeare, the man,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1155.91,1158.578"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"except that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1158.578,1161.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he was very interested in family relationships,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1161.05,1163.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's as far as I would go. Did it seem as though","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1163.82,1167.111"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was psychoanalyzing Shakespeare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1167.111,1168.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm trying to get a handle on exactly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1168.81,1171.769"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what, what is happening in the, in the process","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1171.769,1174.311"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you're going through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1174.311,1175.551"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1175.551,1176.468"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(loud whining static noise)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=1177.996,1181.663"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22919/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/919/original/AV203399_Gender_and_Generation_in_King_Lear_b.vtt?1613512277","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/919/original/AV203399_Gender_and_Generation_in_King_Lear_b.vtt?1613512277"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22920","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203399_Gender_and_Generation_in_King_Lear_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829/transcript/22920/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- The fantasy that a prison can be a nursery, in which Cordelia has no independent being and exists solely for her father as part of his defensive strategy against coming to terms with women. Women who are as human, or as inhuman, as men. Cordelia's death prevents Lear from trying to live out his fantasy, and perhaps discover once again that a daughter, cannot be a mother. When he enters bearing Cordelia in his arms, he is struggling to accept the total and irrevocable loss of the only loving woman in his world. The one person who could possibly fulfill needs that he has in such anguish, finally come to admit. No wonder that he cannot contemplate such utter devastating separateness. And in the final scene, tries so hard to deny that she is dead. At the end of King Lear, only men are left. It remains for Shakespeare to re-imagine a world in his last plays in which masculine authority can find mothers in its daughters, in Marina, Perdita, and Miranda. The world of pastoral tragic comedy and romance, the genre of wish fulfillment, rather than the tragic world of King Lear. Thank you. Could you extend then, what happened, what was Mrs King Lear like, did she- dreadful woman And to carry this one step further, he's looking for a mother, you know the girls are supposed to be like their mother. Does it speak to perhaps that little\r\n\r\n- What a delightful question! Well, you want to, go on?\r\n\r\n- No that's it, no.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, okay, well. That's the question that, on the one hand is taboo to ask, right? Because we're not supposed to wonder how many children have laid in bed. All right.\r\n\r\n- No, we know that this woman had three!\r\n\r\n- That's a help. But, on the other hand, it's irresistible to ask it, when I teach Lear. and when I talk about it, occasions like this, it often comes up. Well, how to deal with it? I guess I should say that we, we shouldn't prize it, entities that don't exist in play, or, or enemies of which we can find no trace. And I've been concerned with the trace of Lear's own mother on him, not of his wife, or his wife as mother on the daughters. So on that grounds, I would shift the question a little bit and say what was there in Lear's child, in Lear's paternal relations with the daughters? Him we know, her we don't.\r\n\r\n- All right well then-\r\n\r\n- And, um, well he's such a difficult guy, I mean he had never slenderly known himself. You know, he probably was quite insensitive to them. We can gather, and in some fundamental, emotional sense that's the most damaging thing any parent can do to a child. I think he didn't recognize them, he didn't see them. Yeah, it's just folktale, that two are bad and one is good. But by saying that I don't mean to dismiss you.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering about the question that some people write a lot about whether Lear thinks, possibly in his madness, that Cordelia is still alive at the end, that speaks to that, you know you look there and is there, how do you interpret that passage of view of your interpretation?\r\n\r\n- Well, just that, that the need for her is so great. I think it's significant that it's focused on her mouth, her breath. He wants that oral reassurance, and as for him the match is that, you know, for us all, is that he intertwined a gratification. In a psychological sense, it's her words, her testimony and self love that he wanted at the beginning, and that I think is hearkened back to. I mean, you were talking to me about the way that Shakespearian endings often recapitulate beginnings, I think this is an example of it.\r\n\r\n- It's quite possible that his wife died when Cordelia was born.\r\n\r\n- How would we, know that?\r\n\r\n- Well she's the youngest which means she may have have died in childbirth when giving birth to Cordelia.\r\n\r\n- Well, that's an interesting idea, I mean we have to think about why he loves her most.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, that and that's possibly why, I mean that he, that he has a bit of an attitude towards her because she's the last one, and she's associated with his wife.\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- She, she killed, she killed the mother but she is the mother, she's the last and did it.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I see, yeah.\r\n\r\n- She's unmarried.\r\n\r\n- She's unmarried, the other two are gone off.\r\n\r\n- Sure, and also if you think about the affinities between Pericles and King Lear, and how Pericles' wife Thaisa dies in childbirth and Perdita becomes the mother- What's her name? Uh, Marin, Marina! Becomes the mother to Pericles, I think that too would bear out that conjecture. Well, I don't know. I don't know. On the one hand, the English, even the English recognized that they practice primogeniture with a zeal that was not equaled on the continent. There, there are, hazards that I think So there's this intense need to pass on, say it's identity, well, he called it his son. On the other hand, it wasn't a law, it was a practice, and part of the inheritance, dividing it amongst the daughters, was, you know, quite common also, but not extraordinary.\r\n\r\n- I wanted to just comment on two things. One is the often stressed idea by some people that the wickedness of Goneril and Regan has something to do with the fact that they're more masculine than they should be. The second is, uh, specifically, how do you see Regan's role in the blinding of Gloucester's .\r\n\r\n- Oh goodness, I haven't even thought about that. Okay. Well, the first part about, okay. It isn't just any bad missing women, I guess, it's aggressiveness and independence, that calls for the charges of management. And so they are that frightening specter of what Natalie Davis calls the woman on top, the unruly woman, and, these sexual inversions, I think are more- they call out a particular kind of powerful response appeal that's different from other kinds of inversions like what Connors rising up or even assets say rising up against Elizabeth, when women rise up. And I think it's because, as Othello says, 'there have I gone about my heart'. I mean, you, you give your affections, you give away yourself to a woman. Then if she takes the reigns, so it's just them, see, and she's usurping your own prerogative and identity she stays in So I think it's that kind of drive to rule, Well, about the castration. I don't know that I can answer that. I can only share to you a kind of, I don't know, preoccupation I have, with something that, who is it, Edgar says to Edmond. He says, 'The dark and vicious place where thee he got- Cost him his eyes'. And it's a horrible thought, of course. And I- it's been a class rightly I think, with, Gloucester's own too easy, predisposition to contriving unique kinds of tit for tat, likes telling him, kinds of justice. The world doesn't work that way. It isn't just. But on the other hand, it does suggest that equation or substitution, of genital her eyes. And you can, I mean, that's, it's the daughters born that the Monster's daughters born in that loathsome act that symbolically express, the sexual transgression\r\n\r\n- Apparently was a law, and it goes back and was only changed in 1970 Goes back to Westminster too And in the Middle Ages they developed In the case of all daughters, the practice was to subdivide the estate evenly\r\n\r\n- Well, by law, Okay. Then, then that the inheritance, the even division of the estate amongst- was only possible with daughters, then.\r\n\r\n- Right, right. Unless the entail was broken, and their way of doing that was The legal subject that you considered\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Well, one of Warren Stone's, supports for his argument about the change in the nature of the family, between the period preceding Shakespeare, and Shakespeare is is that I think he dated in the late 15th century, lawyers began to find clever ways of breaking entails, and separating the family from the line or dynasty, that were. But you say it didn't go out of law until 1970.\r\n\r\n- But there must have been some properties outside the entails\r\n\r\n- But entail and dower are mutually exclusive. You can have entail and dower in an estate. in the provisions of inheritance at the same time. They're not mutually exclusive. Well, thank you for telling me that.\r\n\r\n- Can't hear you.\r\n\r\n- What'd you say?\r\n\r\n- It's entirely coincidental, but I was also going to suggest the legal actions because after all A couple things One, we're gonna disagree on this, let's say that Lear, King Lear, character, is not a real person, he's a persona in the play, considering his motives in the play and then two other points looking at it, one of the main contrast in the play, or the main pattern in the play is the relationship between Gloucester, relationship between Lear and it. What do you do? If you're gonna pop around relationship between Lear and Cordelia, doesn't that sort of destroy the symmetry of the context or whatever between on the other hand between Gloucester and Edmund. The other point I have is, what about the pool? Is there nothing about the pool, I keep reading, for many readers would be- I don't know what you call, would be called the subconscious of Lear, but would indicate some of the things that should be going around, so maybe there too- my first point, you know cause I'm sure, you've taught this argument before,\r\n\r\n- Oh, sure. There's three things. Okay. I'll take it the first, first, I guess. Yeah. This is the familiar quarrel with psychoanalysis, the accusation that psychoanalytic critics regard characters as though they were patients and attempt to psychoanalyze them. Well, I would only say that, anyone who has knowledge of psychoanalysis realizes that interpreting the character as I've just done, there's very little resemblance to it. We're just not free associate. We have controlled design here. We have a limited structure, and all I've done is to try to work with the imagery. And, when, the first questioner asked about Lear's mother, I, you know, try to draw the line between treating Lear as a real person with a real, identifiable mother, and dealing with what the play gives us. Meredith Skura, an excellent book called, Psychoanalysis and the literary process, talks about how cycling criticism deals with the interplay between, surface and death. and those of us who were trying to do psychoanalytic criticism now, are not plunging beneath all the plain facts of why and the details of its mind, which to enunciate, supposedly time-less structures. I've tried to deal with the language that the play gives us, not with one some supposedly universal and non particular complex. So that's all I can say in my defense. Yes. I quite agree with you that it's a distortion of the play to look at only Lear, and not Gloucester too. Harry Berger dealt with this by having one essay called the Lear family. And another essay called the Gloucester family. And I've been working on an essay on the Gloucester family, which I'm bogged down in at the moment. And all I can say is that there's symmetry but there's asymmetry. And that Edmund's style, seems to me, particularly masking, but that what plagues me is that the play begins with an image of Edmund's pregnant mother, and that's another preoccupation of mine, kind of waking obsession, you know, she grew round, and it's the only image of motherhood, coy, motherhood, that you have in the play, and it's extremely provocative, and it relates to the Gloucester family, not the Lear family. I think we have time for one more question.\r\n\r\n- What gave it.\r\n\r\n- The pelican image strikes me as, crass\r\n\r\n- Ordinarily, the pelican is seen, as benign, it's a prize symbol and also, pelican is associated with rulers. And so Shakespeare to turn this around and emphasize children, not as so innocent, but as by being protectors, they actually be strong and also, as it lost all kinds of rulers, there was no distinction being made about gender. That is, the pelican is the nursing mother, father, because that's what the ruler is, turning them around to emphasize children, as the one sapping strength out of this person.\r\n\r\n- Okay, yes. Yes, that makes sense. I don't know of any references, maybe you do, of pelican being used by Shakespeare to emphasize ingratitude rather than from the other perspective.\r\n\r\n- No, no, in Richard II, the time Elizabeth uses these image in one of her speeches that way. Thomas Flanagan told me that, in the city of Dublin, the municipal blood bank which is run by an organization of women, called the Pelican.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. The, the question about the psychoanalysis of Lear, it's true that Lear is free associating, but is Shakespeare in some sense, free associating? He chose the story, and the images came off of the story, and are you really psychoanalyzing Shakespeare?\r\n\r\n- Wow. I don't want to be, one could try, I suppose, with that. It's an interesting but very risky venture. I don't have any generalizations to make about Shakespeare, the man, except that he was very interested in family relationships, that's as far as I would go. Did it seem as though I was psychoanalyzing Shakespeare?\r\n\r\n- No, I'm trying to get a handle on exactly what, what is happening in the, in the process that you're going through. Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36670/file/105829#t=0.0,1184.664"}]}]}]}