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She is sort of coming home. She started out, as I understand, in Boone and then moved to Cedar Rapids. Now lives in New York City, so she's left us country folk. Her education, she told me this afternoon, was in music. She was a cellist and began a career in music. Since 1977, she has been the editor of the New World Review, which is a journal that reports on U.S. Soviet relations, developments in Eastern European and Asian countries, news that is not readily available to us in our press often. She is a member of the American Soviet Friendship Council Executive Committee since 1977, and since 1980 a Secretary of the National Board of that organization. Marilyn has traveled extensively in her work and made trips to Mongolia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Kampuchea. She has made four trips to the Soviet Union with special interests in the Central Asian Republics. Her most recent trip was in June of this year. Marilyn will speak to us tonight about the Soviet Peace Movement, and I'd like you all to give her an Iowa welcome.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. You know, it really is special for me to be here. Can you all hear me clearly in the back? Yes? I was looking out over the lake this afternoon and I remember it, I have some very clear recollections of that lake from when I was about three or four years old. At that time, as Julian Pertl just said, we were living in Boone and it was a common Sunday afternoon expedition to come over here and to enjoy the lake. And there was one day when I got, apparently, a little too friendly with one of the swans and I got chased, and I haven't forgotten that at all. I also remember the belltower, when I saw it this afternoon. Something really clicked, and I said, yes, that is part of my childhood heritage. So I really feel like I have come almost home in a very real way. This is, of course, a very serious time for all of us in our country. I think that many of us here in this room probably share the feeling which I have very much, and that is that when we have a president in office who makes a joke like he would like to outlaw the Soviet Union and the bombing is going to begin in five minutes that we have to take a very, very careful look at some of the policies that our government and our administration in Washington are following, and we have to think of the meaning of those policies for our lives and also for the world in general. And we have to remember that we belong to the first generations which have actually had the power to destroy all of human civilization if we're not very careful. This, of course, is a crucial time leading up to the election in November, and we have to be making some very important decisions about how we see the future of this country. And in order to make those decisions, it seems to me that we need to try to have as much information which will give us background in areas of U.S. Soviet relations as we can possibly have. And that is why I'm here this evening, because I want to discuss with you some of the things which I learned on the trip which I took in June, which are things that our newspapers and television don't normally report for us. Just before I left, I had occasion to talk with someone who I'm not gonna name because I think the person would be very well known to everybody in this room who has been active in any aspect of the peace movement. This is someone who has produced materials which we all use and value in terms of what U.S. policy is doing to the economy, what U.S. military policy is doing to the economy in this country. And I wanted to get this person to write an article for New World Review, and in the course of our conversation, I mentioned that I was about to leave on this trip to the Soviet Union, and I said the thing which we're going to be studying particularly is the Soviet Peace Movement. The voice on the other end of the phone said, \"Soviet Peace Movement? What Soviet Peace Movement?\" And I said to myself I think perhaps this really shows how much we need to go and try to explore just what is happening and is there a Soviet Peace Movement, and if there is, who's in it, and what do they do? And is it a big one? Is it a small one? How do they organize things? Who makes the decisions about what kind of activities they're going to do? Where do they get their money? Are they under the thumb of the government as is sometimes said? Are they doing only what perhaps they're ordered to do? Do they get all their money from the communist party or from the government? Anyway, three of us, three journalists, went to the Soviet Union for three weeks. We were not really a delegation because we were united only by a commitment to peace and a commitment to take an honest look. We went there, the arrangements for us to go were made from this country by the National Council of American Soviet Friendship, and we were assisted in the Soviet Union by the counterpart organization, the Soviet Society For Friendship with the U.S., which is called the USSR USA Society. We spent time in Moscow, of course. We also visited Ashgabat, which is the capital of Turkmenia, which is one of the Central Asian Republics. We were in Tbilisi, which is the capital of Georgia, which is in the Caucasus. We also were in three cities in the Ukraine: Kyiv, the capital, Poltava, which is a sort of medium-sized industrial city about 300,000, and Donetsk, which is the central city of the most established iron, coal, and steel industry in the Soviet Union. And what did we do? One of the things which was very interesting to us was that we actually participated in three peace meetings. We spoke and we had the opportunity to hear the other people who were in the program. These meetings were held in the shops in three factories. One was a factory which manufactured electric motors in Poltava. One was a factory which made pipes for the famous pipeline which takes natural gas from Siberia into Western Europe. And the third was a heavy machine tool factory in the city of Khartsyzk. Who spoke there? Mostly rank and file workers. These meetings were held on the lunch hour and you will see slides of them. You'll see that two of them actually were held inside among the machines, and there was a truck bed, which served as the speaker's platform. And the workers who spoke, some of them were young workers, some of them were older workers who remembered the second World War. Also, the trade union leaders spoke, the shop foreman spoke, the director of the factory spoke, all three of us spoke. And we were listened to... We were greeted very soberly. People were quite curious, I think, to find out what some folks from the United States actually were going to say to them when we told them that we brought a message from the majority of the people in the United States who very clearly did not want any sort of war and were as eager for peace as indeed they were. We were greeted with very, very warm applause. And at the plant in Khartsyzk, we actually were followed all the way to the parking lot, not followed, surrounded, by a whole crowd of the people who had been in the meeting, and individuals took every opportunity to ask us please to convey some message to their counterparts in the United States. There was one young man who was particularly taken with a young woman journalist who was one of the three of us, and he went to great lengths to say please make sure that the young people in the United States, when you write and you speak about that trip, make sure that the young people in the United States hear from us, the young workers in this factory, that we want very much to work together with you to end the threat of nuclear war. So what other kinds of things happen? We were in the Ukraine at a very interesting time. It was the week of June 21 through 27. And this is the week in which the 43rd anniversary of the Nazi invasion was being commemorated, and it had been declared a peace week. There were all sorts of large meetings, small meetings, showings of films which had to do with the second World War, events, plays which had to do with this, exhibits of art work which had to do with this, concerts. One thing that we have to realize is that Soviet people know very well from their own first-hand experience what war is. The population of the Soviet Union, just at the start of World War II, was in the 190 millions somewhere. And by the end of that war, 20 million Soviet people had either died in the fighting or died in some other way as result of the war: because of starvation, because of having been imprisoned in concentration camps, because of diseases which the medical system couldn't cope with, so forth and so on. This is more than 1 out of 10, and in the Ukraine, which was one of the areas which was occupied by the Nazis, that figure was roughly 1 in 7. In Bielorrusia, one of the other republics which was occupied, it was 1 person in 4. And if we stop to think, sometimes those are just figures, 20 million, 1 out of 10, 1 out of 7, but if we start to think of all the people that we know and we would think of 1 out of 7 of them dying or being killed during a period, say, of four years, because of something which was totally out of the ordinary, like a war and an occupation, it begins to bring it home just rather closely. What were some of these actions? Some of the most interesting of them involved children, and children are quite alert to world issues these days in the Soviet Union, just as we're learning that they're more alert to world issues than we sometimes thought here in the United States. Children in Kyiv were painting pictures for peace and posters for peace and pictures which simply conveyed their conception of what they wanted life to be like in the next century on the sidewalks. Then there was a contest, and, of course, they were photographed, and they lasted only until the next rain, but this attracted a very great deal of attention, and as a matter of fact the USSR Minister of Education and several of the top staff people from that ministry came to the Ukraine to talk with these young people and to get information from them on how to spread this around the rest of the Soviet Union. And when we come to the slides, you'll also see some of the sidewalk meetings which were being done. Some general things about some of the actions which had taken place between May 1st and October 1st of 1983 in the Soviet Union as a whole, there were about 140,000 different kinds of peace related activities, and there were about 160 million Soviet people who took part in one or another of them. Now that obviously means some people participated in more than one, and some people didn't participate in any of them. There are certain periods of the year which are particularly set aside for these observances. One period is October, and as we know, October 24th, I believe it is United Nations Day, and there's a great deal of attention that's paid to that over there. Also, the month of May is a peace month and this has special significance, a double significance, because May Day is observed there as the worker's holiday, and then May 9th is the commemoration of the victory over the Nazis in World War II. There's another day that's particularly interesting, and that's September 1st. About three years ago at a World Trade Union Conference that was held in Havana, there was a decision taken that September 1st should be World Trade Union Day for Peace, and that was picked up with considerable enthusiasm by the Soviet trade unions. They, last year, had about 20 million people involved in about 34,000 different activities, some of which were undoubtedly like this one that we participated in, which was a meeting in a factory. Other kinds of things that they do, they have marches just like we do. Last October, to protest the new U.S. missiles going into Western Europe, there was a demonstration of 800,000 people in Moscow. I forget how it went exactly, but there was something like 12 different feeder marches and there were several rallies in different parts of the city where a whole range of different peoples spoke: workers, scientists, actors, leaders in the peace movement, artists, what have you. One of the things that they started doing, they have athletic events, just as we have runs for peace and this, that, and the other, it's that very popular there, and in the last couple of years, they've also started having motorcades. There was one in Rostov in the spring. Rostov is a city in the southern part of the Russian Federation, it's not too far from the Black Sea, if I remember right, and they had motorcade going through surrounding communities as well, and along the way, they had concerts and they had rallies and they had various other things to get the attention of people. So who coordinates all this, and who decides exactly what's gonna be done and how it's going to work? There is an organization which is known as the Soviet Peace Committee. This organization has a meeting, general meeting, once every five years, and it brings together people who are active in peace activities from all over the Soviet Union. And they elect a committee and they try to make that committee as representative of different segments of the population as they can. The Soviet Peace Committee, the all union Peace Committee, has 450 members, and they try to balance it out among the nationalities. As you probably know, there are more than 100 different nationalities in the Soviet Union. They try to balance it out among to make sure that leading people from the various religious groups are part of it: the Russian Orthodox Church, the Baptists, the Jewish synagogues, and several other Orthodox congregations. They also try to make sure that both workers and management from different branches of industry are involved in it, that they have journalists, that they have scientists, that they have artists, and to make it as representative of the population as possible. That is an order, as you will see you later, that things can be discussed with various groups in the population, by people who are actually involved with them. And all of the different Peace Committees at the Republic level, and at the city level are also elected by similar sorts of conferences, and again, trying to make sure that all segments of the population in that community have some kind of balanced representation. Who does the work? The Peace Committee staff has 60 people in Moscow at the headquarters. About 20 of them have program responsibilities, and the others are clerical and technical people. And most of the work is done by volunteers, very much like it is here. It's people just giving their time after work in order to get things accomplished. Who are some of the leaders that we spoke with? One is very interesting. He is the first Turkmanian artist to have received a State Prize as a painter. He invited us to his studio. We spent a marvelous evening seeing his paintings which depict the progress which has been made in this Central Asian Republic, in which at the time of the 1917 Revolution, virtually everybody was illiterate and there was no industry and the women were still confined to the house and made to wear the head to toe veils and so forth and so on. And now, as he has depicted in his paintings, there has been a development of industry. Women were granted equal rights and given the conditions to learn in schools and to be able to take jobs, so forth and so on; and he has documented this. Another person we met who was a leading person in the peace movement is Metropolitan Philaret from the Russian Orthodox Church. How many of you have been reading about Billy Graham's current trip to the Soviet Union? If you have, you've probably seen Metropolitan Philaret in the photographs because I know I have in New York in the papers in the photos that have been published. Another is the rabbi of the Choral Synagogue in Moscow, Adolf Shayevich, with whom we spoke. On the local level, in Donetsk, we remembered particularly Svetlana Nekrasova, who had been a school principal and had given up her work as a school principal because she had decided that working with the peace movement was much more important. We also met the doctor who's the head of a medical school and medical Institute in Poltava who fought all the way to Berlin in World War II, and he said that he had come to the conclusion that the most important thing that he could do with his time outside of his job was to devote it to being the chairperson of the Peace Committee in that particular region. So you have people from all different lines of work and with some rather varied backgrounds. What are some of the kinds of things that we saw at the Peace Committee headquarters? You will see in the slides a very, very interesting room full of things which have been sent from all over the country. Children's paintings, albums that people have put together, petitions, just as we find petitions are very important, they're very important there too. And people make up their own. They're not just sheets of paper, they're albums, and they will have perhaps a hand drawn cover, hand-painted, or they may be made up by having someone has clipped photographs or taken prints of artwork and mounted them. A carpenter, for instance, mounted pictures of children doing all sorts of things, and he wrote a text about the necessity of preserving peace and preserving the world for children. And in a little more than a year, he collected 50,000 signatures on this thing, and he sent it to the Peace Committee and we were able to see it. How many people here have heard of the big Battle of Stalingrad in World War II? Well, it was one of the largest of the battles in the Soviet Union, and it really was the turning point. It was the place at which the Red Army started going West instead of having to continually retreat to the East. And as a matter of fact, the battle raged for many, many months, and it was a very heroic and difficult sort of thing. There is now a woman who is a tour guide at the War Memorial there who got together with two of her friends, one is a teacher in a vocational school and another is a principal of a high school, and they drew up a petition. The gist of their wording was everything is calm here in Volgograd, it's been renamed Volgograd now, everything is calm here now, but we remember what was happening here 40 years ago, and we don't ever want this for any of the world's people again. Everything that we do must now be dedicated for peace. And they got something like 13,400 and something signatures on this. Again, illustrated, it had a hand painted cover. There's a little village in the Ukraine which is called something like, well, I'm not gonna try to say it in Russian, but the meaning of it is we love friendship, that's the name of the village. And they got together and sent an album in which they recounted the story of that village in World War II: how many people were killed from the village and how many Soviet soldiers died liberating it. And again, their message was we don't want anymore of this sort of thing. Having demonstrations and making the signs for them and so forth and so on costs money, right? Getting people to the demonstrations. Publicizing them. So the next question is, who pays? And it's rather commonly considered in this country that probably the communist party does it if the government doesn't, something like that. Actually, this is not so. It's done very much the same way that we do it here with a few Soviet differences because of the difference in the society. It's people like you and me giving some money, sometimes a big sum once, sometimes a little money every month. One of the most interesting things that we heard about, we didn't get to meet the woman, but in Turkmania we talked with the woman who edits the magazine for Turkmanian women, and she was telling us about a woman who came to the office of the magazine several years ago. She is an older woman who has been, well, she was a young girl at the time of the revolution. She's been to all the different kinds of stages in the society. Now she's way past retirement age, about 15 years past retirement age, she's a shepherdess, and she continues to work. She lives near a little town near the Afghan border. She has worked all these years since she could have retired so she can give her pension to the peace fund, and she lives on her wages. And the editor of the magazine was saying she's only one of many people who do the same kinda thing. People send their family jewelry. Youngsters collect paper for recycling or collect bottles. The other thing that is big there, they're big on herbal medicine, and the youngsters will go around and they collect medicinal plants, and they take them to a pharmacy and then they'll sell them. Sometimes this is done by pioneers in a group. Sometimes it's done by a school class. Sometimes it's done by individuals or maybe several kids who live in the same apartment building who get together to do it. A very interesting thing. One of the people of the Soviet Peace Fund that we were talking with was saying sometimes some youngster will send in his or her allowance, and he said we don't really value that so much because what's really important is when those kids have gone out and earned the money. The allowance, it's all right, but that was money that they were given. It wasn't money that they actually figured out how they could earn. Another thing. We give concerts sometimes to raise money and to popularize a peace cause, right? Well, we visited a farm in Georgia. They grew grapes, after we talked with some of the workers and so forth. The chairperson of the farm took us up to this very beautiful guest house. It had belonged to a nobleman, and now it was the farm's house for special occasions. We were admiring the view over this broad, beautiful valley and there were a group of workers standing over by the guest house so we went over there to talk with them. And our first question, almost any place, we got right to the point, what have you done for peace this week or this year? And they said, well, we put on a concert and we raised 1200 rubles that way. So we were just about to say, well, how did you find your musicians, where did you get your hall, how did you publicize all the questions that we would have to go into, when the farm chairman said, okay, come on, it's time to go in for dinner. Well, we went to be seated around the table, and they sat at one end and we sat at the other so one of our group members said, hey, why don't we mix this up a little bit? Why should the Georgian people sit at one end and the U.S. people at the other? It turns out that they were a singing group in the Georgian unaccompanied tradition which goes back centuries. It's very beautiful unaccompanied male voices, and there were five of them. And then, of course, we realized how they put on the concert and why they were able to make that much money because they're extremely popular in their area. They are well-known all around and they indeed were the artists and that was how they did it. Now, where does this money go? About a million and a half rubles a year goes to the Soviet Peace Committee, but it also goes other places. The Soviet Women's Committee, which is very much involved with peace, but also very much involved with women's working conditions is also totally funded by the Soviet Peace Committee. There are three organizations aside this. You've all heard of the Pugwash Movement. This is the international conferences that traditionally have been held on Cyrus Eaton's summer estate up in Pugwash, Nova Scotia, which now bring together scientists from 40 different countries, nuclear physicists, mostly, to try to figure out how to end the arms race. Well, there's the Soviet Pugwash Committee which has been in business since the mid 1950s. That's how they get their money. There's a research council, scientist research council of disarmament. They also are bankrolled the same way. Now there's a scientists committee for nuclear disarmament. The physicians for nuclear disarmament are also, by the way, the physicians over there say their movement was sparked by U.S. physician Dr. Bernard Lown, who sparked the whole international physicians for the prevention of nuclear war movement. And also, that funding goes for the hope that various Soviet organizations send to the people, for instance, in Lebanon, who lost their homes in the fighting. It also is what built a children's hospital in Hanoi. It also is what sent money to Peru to help rebuild housing after a bad earthquake there. And it also is where money went to the people in Kampuchea after they were liberated from Pol Pot. You all remember that there was widespread hunger there, this was about five years ago now, and a great deal of assistance went through that sort of thing. Kids write in. There was a little girl who wrote a letter, and she said I've given the money that I was going to use to buy a doll. I want it to go to help the people in Lebanon. And I'm not sorry I don't have a doll anymore or I'm not gonna get that doll because a lot of the children in Lebanon don't have dolls and I would rather that they have something which they need. There was a family which said we had been saving money for a color TV set, but we decided that we were going to send the however many hundred rubles it was when we sat down and we had a family meeting and we decided that it would be better to send it to the peace fund, because if we have peace, we're gonna be able to buy a color TV and a car and lots of other things, but if we don't have peace we're not gonna have anything. So it would better put the priority first. There was a young man who said I've decided to send a contribution every time something good happens to me. I've met the woman of my dreams. We're gonna get married next summer. I'm so happy. I can't believe it. Here's a contribution. You know, all kinds of things like that. It's quite interesting. Okay, enough on that. September 1st is a day which is important for more than just the trade unions. This is one of the things the Peace Committee has been involved with. They worked out a set of peace lessons for different age groups in the schools, and got the approval of the education ministry. Now every September 1st, which is the traditional first day of school in the Soviet Union, starts out with a lesson on peace, and then during the year at intervals. The whole day of September 1st is devoted to starting off the school year with discussions around peace. One of the things that happens that sometimes puzzles people from the United States when they go to the Soviet Union is all you hear about is World War II. Has anybody ever noticed that? You may notice that if you know much about Soviet literature, if you've been to the Soviet Union, if you've seen, I don't know whether you ever get Soviet films here, we do get a certain number in New York, but, by golly, a lot of them are still about the war, and if they're not about the war, very likely they have flashbacks to something that happened in the war because that influenced the character of the people who are acting in the present day and so forth. And a lot of us here, even those of us who are old enough so that we lived through the war, a lot of people in the United States tend to think World War II is maybe a little old hat. It was 40 years ago. There are other things that are going on now and now we're a little bit surprised by some of the other attitudes. There's something that's always said when people go to the Soviet Union, or it's said in books written by Soviet people, and that is the war affected every family. And when you begin to hear this for a while, you begin to think, well, maybe it's sort of a cliche, you know, you hear it over and over again, but when you begin to ask people how did the war affect your family, and it doesn't matter whether you're asking a kid 10 years old or you're asking somebody who is 70 and actually lived through and maybe fought, so forth and so on, you will get a very distinct and a very specific answer. And it doesn't matter whether you're talking to somebody who lived in the occupied areas, of course, they have some of the most vivid and horrible stories, or whether you're asking somebody who lives in Siberia, that the Nazis were never even close to. In Moscow, I talked with a woman about my own age, who is an Evenk, and the Evenks are one of the small peoples in Siberia who, rather similar to the Native American Indians, have rather similar history and maybe even way back some links. She grew up in a little village in Evenkia, and that's East of the Yenisei River. It's way out in Siberia in a very remote and sort of sparsely populated area. From the little village where she grew up, 40 men went to the war. Five of them were her uncles. Her father's four younger brothers were called out and her mother's younger brother. The only reason her father didn't go was they needed firs for the front and he was a particularly expert hunter, and all expert hunters, really top-notch ones, were exempted as being in a war related industry. But of those five uncles of hers who went to the war, only one came back. All of her father's younger brothers were killed. And she said that some of the earliest memories she had she was just a very young child during the war itself, hadn't learned to speak Russian yet and so forth, but even after the war, when she was old enough to begin to go to school and begin to be aware of some of these things, she was aware of the families that were still waiting for their soldiers to come back. I have read a composition written in English by a little girl from Leningrad, and this little girl is, she must be about 12 or 13, she's in the 6th Forum there. She says I don't remember the war, but my grandmother lived through the siege of Leningrad. You may remember that Leningrad was besieged by the Nazis for 900 days, and that for many, many months in the beginning of that, it was totally surrounded so that it wasn't possible to supply it at all, and millions, hundreds of thousands of people died in the city, died of starvation. Well, she said my grandmother had two little sons and she loved those little boys very, very much, but she could not do enough to save them and they died, and she has never forgotten that. And then she says my grandfather on the other side, my mother's father, fought in the war, and he was badly wounded, and he has told me a great deal about how it was for him and for the soldiers that he was with during the war. So this is a very distinct kind of a thing. We were talking with the head of the graduating class, the president of the graduating class, at one of the medical schools, and he said, you know, we pay a lot of attention to talking with the war veterans because we consider their experiences to be very important, and when they're gone, after all, they'll come a time when there won't be any living veterans of that war, it'll be up to us to carry those experiences forward. I think anybody who's been to the Soviet Union is aware of how many war memorials there are and the place that these have in people's lives. For instance, on the couple's wedding day the bride will leave her flowers at an eternal flame. What's the meaning of this? Some people have interpreted this as being the Soviet Union constantly looking to past glories, something like this, because perhaps life in the present is drab or something. Other people have said that it's militaristic, it's celebrating war. What I felt after that trip was that it is one of the most important aspects of peace education, that it is really providing a sort of antiwar inoculation. And the reasoning goes something like this. We know the devastation that there was at that time, and we also are aware that in the case of a nuclear war, there would be an intimately more serious kind of a situation. We can't really, we have to use this as a kind of a benchmark for knowing how bad things might be, and we don't want any of it. We don't even want a World War II type conventional war again, let alone anything more than this. So how do people feel about what the government policies are? How do they think that they can influence anything? The Soviet Peace Committee is an independent organization. It's what they call a public organization, so is the Soviet Peace Fund. Very interesting thing related to our freeze proposal, at the time that the various early freeze proposals were just bubbling around in people's minds here and being discussed in this organization and that. Of course, the Peace Committee has exchanges of visits with a number of organizations in this country, for instance, American Friends Service Committee. The Women's Committee has relations with people in women's international league. And there are many, many others. I won't try to describe it. So that some of the people who were involved in these early freeze discussions here discussed it with the Soviet Peace Committee. Well, here's what's happening. These are some of the things that are bubbling up here. And the Peace Committee people were a little bit skeptical at first, and they had a lot of questions about it and they discussed it among themselves, and decided that it was worth exploring just this concept with the people in other organizations in the Soviet Union. They did it in several different ways. This kind of illustrates how some of these processes can work. The committee, this is why it includes people from different kinds of lines of work, there are a number of journalists, including some very top ones like Yuri Zhukov who was the top political commentator for Pravda and who has a weekly television program. And he began to talk about this on the TV program, and he began to write about it in some of his columns. So did other journalists. Some of the people on the Peace Committee who're members of the Supreme Soviets, the legislature's Foreign Affairs Committee started to talk about it there. And the Foreign Affairs Committee people had a lot of questions, so they had to go back and they had to get some disarmament experts in to talk about what the implications would be this way and that. So then after that, they took it to the Foreign Ministry and there they really ran into flack because the people at the Foreign Ministry said look, this is a step backward as far as we're concerned. We've been proposing things like actual steps toward agreed disarmament measures, and we've been talking about other proposals... Ah. This is telling me shut up. Thank you. Anyway, they were saying that really this represents a terrific step backwards for us. This is innocuous. Why should we be bothered with it? But in the meantime, the feedback that was coming in from some of the articles in the newspapers and some of the letters that were coming into the Peace Committee offices, both in the Republics and Moscow, were saying look, the people find this very appealing and interesting, and the people really would like to support a proposal which is getting so much support from the people in the United States. And so after some many months of this discussing back and forth, the Peace Committee finally persuaded the government to pick up this proposal. And as you all remember, the second UN Special Disarmament Session in June of 1982, the message that Leonid Brezhnev sent to that indicated that the Soviet Union was looking very favorably on freeze proposals. Incidentally, I am convinced, and the Soviets don't say it, but I am convinced that they themselves suggested something very like the freeze in 1977 because they suggested a mutual moratorium on testing and deployment and production of all nuclear weapons. Leonid Brezhnev said it in his speech on occasion of the 60th anniversary of the revolution in 1977. But they don't seem to take credit for it or whatever they say. It's a U.S. proposal that they were wanting to agree with. Another thing that happens very much. Soviet people are pretty wise to what's happening in terms of the world. They know very well from their press what Reagan is doing, and they also know very well from their press what the Peace Movement is doing here. I heard again and again two things. Number one, we met Soviets, people who fought in the war, we met Soviets, I mean, we met U.S. people in Germany, we met U.S. soldiers. I flew in a U.S. made plane, and so forth and so on. And we had great hopes for the relations at that time because when we met U.S. soldiers, we were all feeling very strongly that there must never be another war, and then along came the Cold War and we felt that this created a lot of difficulties. The other thing is people make a constant separation. They'll say we detest what Mr. Reagan is doing, but we know that he does not represent the feelings of most of the American people. One of the things one of the people said to me was any public figure that says that there are things more important than peace, well, I know darn well that that doesn't represent the feelings of most of the people in your country. We met a person from the U.S. when we were there who's lived in the Soviet Union for many, many years. He went over in the 1930s in the Great Depression. He needed a job. He couldn't find one here. And after much soul searching and two or three trips back and forth, he decided to settle there, became a Soviet citizen. He fought in World War II, was badly wounded. After he was cured, he was released from the army and he went to work in what was then a war plant. Now it's the Promotoras Heavy Machinery Plant. He has kept in touch with his relatives in the United States, though he hasn't been back here since before the war. He follows issues dealing with the United States quite closely. His trade union, he's retired now, but his trade union told him that we were coming and the trade union leader also told us about him. They said you ought to talk with Floyd Barnwell. He grew up near Chicago around Elgin and Dundee. And sure enough, when we were leaving the plant after we had talked with the director and some of the other people there for a while, here in the lobby waiting for us was Floyd Barnwell. His English is just as, well, I don't know whether you call mine Midwestern, I guess I may have some New York corners on mine at this point after 10 years there, but anyway, the minute he spoke, I said my word is I know that he's from around Chicago because it's just that kind of speech. And we talked with him for quite a while. And one of the questions that I asked him was I said the Soviet people that you know, what do you feel they think about their government's policies both the kinds of peace proposals that are being made of and the fact that it's felt that it's necessary to keep up a defense, which is, as they say, equal to that of the United States, and so forth. And he said, well, the vast majority, mind you, he didn't say all, he said the vast majority, of the Soviet people that I know or know anything about support both those sides of the policy very strongly. They've lived through the revolution. They've lived through the Civil War. They've lived through the first World War. They've lived through the second World War. It's clear to them that you have to do everything possible to try to avert a war, and you also have to make sure that you can't let anybody walk all over you, that things have to be done on the basis of equality and equal security. And then he got very emotional. He actually, tears came into his eyes, and then it was hard for him to speak. He said, I have thought so many times how is it possible to get message to the people of the United States that people here and the government here really are not driving for a war. People in the United States can hear our radio, they can hear Radio Moscow, but then they also see the U.S. TV, they also read the U.S. newspapers, and most of the programs and most of the media are simply telling them something very different. And this was extremely difficult for him to accept that there wasn't some way that that message could get across. So what are these proposals? 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themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838#t=2169.28,2170.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838/transcript/22937/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because of course we know what Mr. Reagan has said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838#t=2170.56,2175.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838/transcript/22937/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Carter administration provided 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Afghanistan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838#t=2193.19,2194.896"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838/transcript/22937/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a matter of fact, it's a favorite subject of mine,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838#t=2194.896,2197.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838/transcript/22937/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I to not get 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As I started out of saying that, realizing that we have an administration and a president who can make jokes about bombing the Soviet Union off of the face of the world. And of course, that means essentially the destruction of the world. And it seems to me, it's impossible to pass that off as a joke because all too often, people who make wisecracks are really revealing what their inner thoughts may tend toward. So I'm just urging that between now and November 6th we all think very carefully. The National Council of American Soviet Friendship is a non-partisan organization. And I just, we speak of these things all of us in terms of issues but there is absolutely no question that as an organization, we are completely opposed to the policies of the Ronald Reagan administration. And I would just urge everyone to take his and her own best way to try to sort out those issues. I'd like to show you a few slides if I may and then turn the rest of it over to questions. For everybody who wants to ask some.\r\n\r\n- Do have an obsession with and explain everything that resulted from World War II It seems to me if they were looking more to the future, instead of the past, then things would be better.\r\n\r\n- Did everybody hear that? Okay, the comment was that in your visit right? Well, when was that?\r\n\r\n- Two years ago\r\n\r\n- Two years ago in a visit to the Soviet union it seemed as if all of they are still explaining everything including all the problems in terms of shortages and so forth in terms of the war. Well, actually, there really really was the problem. And I think that there are ways in which those effects still are being felt, in the late 1930s they were making pretty good progress and getting on top of the housing situation and then millions of units of housing were destroyed during the war. And one of the things they're just now saying that almost all families who wants to live separately who don't want to be say doubled up in terms of generations can have their own apartment. And I mean, they even don't even say that everybody can they say almost the whole people can. And the other thing that is a real problem that continues is that with so many losses in terms of people a country with a fantastic labor shortage and all the kids that those people who were killed didn't have that echoes through succeeding generations. And there are periods of time about every 20 25 years when they see their labor of power contracting their labor force contracting. And unlike the situation here with high unemployment and so forth, that's not desirable there because they're trying to do a whole bunch of big development things and they don't have enough people to do it. So it is a problem now to what degree this or that can be assessed that way. That's another question but there are real things that continue, I think.\r\n\r\n- I'm presuming that most of the context you've had were either with the officially sanctioned peace committee or expressions of peacemaking by groups and individuals that were not critical of Soviet government and policies, and I understand that there's an unofficial peace movement as well well one sometime criticized, the Soviet government's decisions and that sort of thing. Wondering you had any contact with people in the peace movement, which I understand that people have been in jail. Do you have contact with some of them?\r\n\r\n- No, and we did not try to make contact with them because we felt actually, well, I'm speaking now for myself because this was not a group which made group decisions my own reason for not having done it, not to speak for I think one of the other members of the group simply wasn't interested in that particular question at all. I thought about it. And I had the feeling that they have gotten quite a lot of press in the United States and some of these other things had not. And while I wanted to try to concentrate on was the sorts of things that I knew weren't getting written about at least in the publications that I have a chance to to read in New York. But you know what we did, I did ask some questions around the country to see who knew about it. And I got some rather interesting answers and these actually people in official positions and people just ordinary rank and file people some people whom I would have expected to be aware of it who were in say leadership in the peace committee and mania didn't know whether there was a problem with translation. I don't know, because when you try to translate the name of an organization, it may come out kind of funny. So that could be, 'cause I know that it gets written up in Soviet press because I read translations from the Soviet press rather extensively. And I see those articles in the translation. Other people reacted with, yes, it's a very small group. And we have the feeling that what they mostly are after is publicity and that many of the people who were involved with it seem also to be very interested in immigrating to the United States. And indeed there are some people in New York who were part of this group to establish trust, who one of them is working as a dental technician in Brooklyn and so forth and so on who actually did immigrate, but the feeling the feeling in general there about them seem to be that there were plenty of avenues in terms of the activities that were going on generally that they could join in with if they wanted to. And also that if they had criticisms in terms of the arms policy in the Soviet union, that they really didn't know their history too well, because if you look at it, practically every new weapon system has been introduced by the United States. That was true of the atomic bomb. We had it in 45, the Soviets had it in 47. It was also true of the hydrogen bomb, which we had in 49. And they had in 43, it was also true of the MIRVs. They Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicles which we had in the late 1960s and which they didn't begin to deploy until the middle seventies, true of cruise missiles. They're just getting them now and so forth so they felt that people really weren't reading their history any too well, if they felt that the Soviets had pioneered any of these things willingly.\r\n\r\n- Did you ask any of the people on the streets what they thought about the situation in Afghanistan?\r\n\r\n- Yes, and this was very interesting, There are Turkmen people you probably know in Afghanistan and a rather a fairly sizable of a group of them on the other side of the border. And there is a great deal of contact back and forth. As a matter of fact, people visit the Afghan. Turkmenian people in Afghanistan have spend extended time with the Turkmen people, in the Soviet Union and vice versa. And there are several villages that are split by the border and the interaction there. Now I didn't actually get out there to see them. But what was described to us was that actually the people are totally free to go back and forth in the village. The border simply doesn't have any particular meaning. And a lot of Afghans come to Turkmenian farmers to see the various techniques of farming and because the climate is similar and the problems in agriculture are similar. Some of the people who are trying to get industries going better in Afghanistan have come also to see what's happening in Turkmenian. The Turmenian minister of irrigation regularly spend some time every year in Afghanistan, because he is helping to provide advice on building up their irrigation system.\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, I think this question shouldn't have said situation, it should've said war in Afghanistan. What do they think of the war in Afghanistan?\r\n\r\n- Well, they are very supportive of the, of efforts there that the Soviet government and the Soviet troops that are in there are making in terms of supporting the Carmel government, because they view that government as doing things which were done in Turkmenian after the revolution. One of the interesting conversations we had was with this artists, Esau Cleachev, who has been in Afghanistan. And he said that he visited some of the more remote agricultural areas. And he saw people having to conduct having to do their farming the way it was done in Turkmenian at the time of the revolution. And he said, the revolution put us in the situation of being part of a country, which was of making great progress. And which tried to make sure that all the peoples made great progress and the Afghan government is trying to do the same thing there. And they feel very much of a kinship with that situation.\r\n\r\n- Yes, it seems to be almost the same feeling that. And one question I do have is, is there any civil disobedience that is practiced in Russia that you know of like there is in this country, standing up to the government and saying what you're doing is wrong, and would you get arrested for that?\r\n\r\n- Well, you have to think about what the situation is. You have to think about the fact that the Soviet government is putting forward a whole variety of proposals for peace which are not being taken up seriously, for instance by this country of, or by the countries in the Western Europe. And you have to... I think, see that actually... if you read Soviet press, you find that the whole country is a ferment of debate and criticism in terms of domestic things. Have you ever read any of the translations of articles from the Soviet press? Well, there are several ways to get it. There's a very excellent publication. The name of it it'll come to me in a minute, which has put out in this country, not reprints from the Soviet press. I'm sorry, it'll come to me. Maybe I can tell you later this is put out by people in this country, and this is the no Soviet people have anything to do with it. People get prompted and they pens and STN and other while all sorts of publications and they decide what they want to translate. And you find that it is just a hotbed of debate about this and that with all sorts of different opinions coming out. One of the things which has often said as well why isn't there a debate must not be allowed in terms of foreign policy. And I think that one of the things that I learned from talking with this men for the United States was who has lived there for so very long is that actually this ferment would apply if Soviet people were unhappy with that policy but they apparently feel that the proposals that are being made are logical the complete test ban treaty, the Soviets ratified salt to of the no first use proposal they support for the freeze. And I think the answer is that the vast majority of Soviet people are not interested in trying to make a change in those policies. That's my reading of it, yes.\r\n\r\n- I think one of the things that is really difficult for Americans to really comprehend that perhaps we might advise press when I was in Los Angeles, there was an article written by Stephen Cohen, who was a professor at Princeton, my son had him, and he was talking about the press and how we are not about reading the truth in Russia in the darkest interpretation given. So I've been rushing to in Soviet Union And in regard to that in Moscow, I met a communications specialist, and we were talking about the situation and he was trying to think of a way to encourage trust that would be impossible to stop the flow. And really our economy would go flat. That is why we have no.\r\n\r\n- No, and I actually I have to say that the basic reason is we didn't think of it and I didn't think of it until just now. I have no idea of what would have happened if we had asked to do so. I have no reason to think that, that we wouldn't have been able to do it but we just didn't occur to any of us.\r\n\r\n- Is there any indication that Soviet government attitude toward the relationship with the left will change in the near or distant future? For example, Europe and well you said previously Warsaw has things saying that NATO in the worst off has to be devolved to meeting the reunification from Europe. I was there in the summer and for the first time in 20 years that East German prime minister wanted to meet with the West German prime minister and Soviet union practically for baby things like that. The Berlin wall is cracked. Now during the rights there, Afghanistan, Vietnam Cambodia, Cuba, with their export revolution. I don't understand quite very the Soviet policy.\r\n\r\n- Well, of course that's about 10 questions rolled into a one. For instance, I have to say, how is it? We know that Eric Honker decided not to make that visit because the Soviets told him that, I mean our press was full of that but while I read the New York seemed to me to be based on speculation, not based on the, any sort of hard fact that they had actually been able to talk either with leading people in the GDR government or people in the know in the Soviet union who said, yes, Mr. Chernenko called up Mr. Honker and said, no you can't go. I can't say either that I know that that wasn't so, but I think we just have to question how it is. We think we know some of these things. The other thing that one has to remember is that the situation in regard of federal Republic GDR relations is complex because while there is a great deal of economic relationship and while there certainly has been a great improvement in recent years, in terms of relations between the two countries there are major groups in the FRG, which are going back to insisting well, have all those insisted that the GDR is really part of the federal Republic. And this is something which doesn't set at all well with the people in the GDR of, and there also are a number of really Neo Nazi groups in the FRG and the government. There is not doing anything to try to do it, to try to get them to tone down the things that they're saying. So it seems to me that there were a lot of reasons quite objectively within the German German relationship. Why Mr.Honaker could logically have made that decision without necessarily having been prodded? Who knows?\r\n\r\n- No, we're saying that right now, Europe is not awful.\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't understand what you mean by reunification of Europe.\r\n\r\n- So family split up by that again right now with again Western European, but first that is not possible.\r\n\r\n- Well, Frankly, I'm, I have to say not aware of major restrictions which prevent people from the Eastern European countries visiting Western Europe, as a matter of fact hundreds and hundreds of thousands of both Soviet and other Eastern European tourists to visit not only Western Europe, but also a number of them make their way even to the United States despite the fact that the financial problems the dealing in hard currency keep a lot of people from being able to do it. But I think perhaps this is an exaggeration. Someone else who hasn't had a chance to ask a question. Yes. By the way I don't know how many people are aware of the fact that while we hear of people coming from the GDR to want to live in the FRG and this certainly does happen. People wanted to come from the German democratic Republic and live elsewhere but that there is a very substantial migration from the fr tree into the GDR, which has increased with the increasing unemployment in the federal republic. And that of course is something that our press simply doesn't say anything about any more than they tell about the Soviet Jewish people who have left the Soviet union, who have come to Israel or come to this country and found that they were having an extremely hard time, for instance having to do things like working out their own health care and trying to find it finding that they couldn't get nearly as good a job here as they had had. And obviously some of the people who've come here have done very well, have been very happy. I've made a very comfortable place for themselves but there have also been quite a number who have been unhappy and who really have wanted to go back. And of course it isn't any too easy for them to go back a few have, but not everybody is too pleased. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I just wondering if you could add a little in there how did the community function well where they're meeting?\r\n\r\n- Well I think just the thing that happened with the freeze was one of the interesting illustrations of that, the fact that the discussion of whether to be supportive of an accepting of the kind of US freeze proposal that was being developed here rather illustrates that a lot of decision-making apparently both at the higher levels and at more local levels, it seems to come about by a rather intensive process of discussion. You talk it over with this person and that and you talk it over with this organization and that and you really don't start coming out with public statements maybe, or decisions until you really have worked it out so that you know that the foreign ministry is also in agreement with you and the people in the Supreme Soviet and so forth. And also the feedback. One of the things that is very, very important in terms of public opinion is the whole role of the newspapers and letters. I don't know how many people are aware of the fact that all Soviet newspapers have a very substantial portion of their column inches which are devoted to letters from the public. And those are on all sorts of questions, domestic questions foreign policy, just anything you name it. And it's from some of this kind of feedback that it's possible to tell what people are really worried about, what it is that they're thinking about what appeals to them. And this was what was indicated to us was part of this whole process about the freeze. That very likely if the feedback in terms of letters to the peace committee in terms of letters to the newspapers and communications to the radio and television stations, if the feedback from the people had not supported the freeze probably it wouldn't have gone any place because the higher ups thought that it was if anything has stepped backward they were making all these there were all these other proposals. Why should you go back to something that's rather bland? And NIMBY-pam by like a freeze. And that was certainly said explicitly about how the foreign ministry looked at it. They weren't interested to begin with. And it took quite a process of what we would call lobbying to get them to come around. And the reason that was given for that was the fact that the response from people who wrote in was that they liked it and that they wanted the idea of agreeing with something that had come from parts of the peace movement.\r\n\r\n- I wonder by the government and are these the regular meetings or were they planned in advance? Could you tell me?\r\n\r\n- Well, it's one of the things that was interesting we asked, these were big factories and they had any number of different shops, so forth. And we said, well, is this something that happens in every one of these and the people we were talking with said no, of it depends on the workers. There are various things that are done. Some people don't do anything. Sometimes some shops have these meetings fairly regularly. We did hear of places where they have them like once a month and where it really is almost like what we described as the format, safer, a friends meeting where instead of having an organized speakers list it really is supposed to be an opportunity for anybody who wants to, to come up and take the microphone and express what's on their minds about it. The ones that we attended were more structured there obviously had been decisions as to who was going to speak. And it was a rather seem to be a rather broadly representative kind of a thing with most heavy emphasis on ordinary rank and file people who didn't have some committee position or this or that. Sometimes there'll be a... say a whole outdoor rally that takes in a whole plant. And sometimes it's just the one shop we saw incidentally workers wandering around the edges. Not everybody seemed to think that they had to come. The people who were there seemed extremely interested but there were also people kind of milling around in the rear. Like we see at meetings sometimes, let me see, what can I think in terms of different examples of decisions on this? Well, one of the things was that in, in Georgia when we would ask how these things were decided to one of the trade union leaders was telling about the fact that the workers at the plant the trade union had suggested that a certain period of time be the wages be devoted to the peace fund. And we said, well how where did you decide that? Did you have a meeting or did you work it out? And he said, well we decided that at the table. And actually what was meant was that several of the workers had gotten together for dinner. And one of the things that had come up during the course of that dinner was the idea of doing this. And so I think things... And also the peace committee people said to us, these things don't all arise spontaneously. Certainly nobody brings out 800,000 people in Moscow without some previous organization, and some publicity and this kind of thing. And he says, it happens both ways. It comes from individual people who make suggestions that get taken up. And it also comes from the peace committee itself, say and its meetings, there's a 70 member body nationally which gets together at quite frequent intervals. And they plan work ahead, and obviously some of these things they suggest. And so it's kind of... it works any number of ways.\r\n\r\n- I think it's significant to the large number of poets, artists, authors belong to these committees. And those are people that have influenced because of their writing and their painting and photography. And so on many of the communities that we visited had a larger number of those kinds of people. And I think that they have a lot of, might have a lot of influence in what they write, what they draw, they photograph.\r\n\r\n- And incidentally that was talking about Julianne Perlis is mentioning the role of artists and the people like this I was rather amused. There are a number of journalists, and I mentioned some of the activities of some of the journalists around the Frieze business, where they began to write about it and publicize it that way. The first vice chairman of the overall peace committee in Moscow was saying, somebody, one of us asked him, I forget who, but what are your relations like with the media? Because that's always a problem here. And he said, well, with the radio, it's very good. We got just a lot of cooperation whenever we want to get something on the radio. But he said, we really have to work for it. Sometimes with the print media, those of us who are a journalist, of course, we can write what we want to in our columns. But if we wanted to get something on a particular time overall, he said, the relationship is very good. Say in terms of the amount of perfect we can get. But when we want to get something at a particular time sometimes we have an awful hassle trying to do us. And he said that we have the same kind of thing with the TV. We really have to work with them to get them to do what we want done, when we want it done. So that was a little reminiscent of here also.\r\n\r\n- Oh it's roughly around a million and a half rubles. This is the figure that we heard two or three times from different people. That's for the national, right. As for the Republic peace committees. I don't know. And you probably know that Google is at the moment roughly about a dollar and a quarter. So you're talking about something under $200 million.\r\n\r\n- Well the national account talking about visa problems the national council of American Soviet friendship of course has a number of exchanges of delegations in the course of any given year. And it's always a big question. The offices of our magazine are in the same general location as the council offices. So I tend to know the details of this. You never know, especially if there's a high level trade union person involved in the delegation or somebody else's particularly prominent now, whether they're actually going to get in and you don't know until well, sometimes until they actually arrive of what's really going to happen with them. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I'm not sure I quite understand your question because what I was trying to do was to show the ways in which the peace activities in the Soviet union are very much involved with the grassroots feelings and actions of individual people. And the fact that the organizations that are involved are public organizations, which are independent of both the government and the party. Of course, they include party people, all organizations do but they are not the creature of either the government. The government does not tell them what to do. They come to this party does not tell them what to do. In fact, as a matter of fact, they point with considerable pride all at Cathar and said, the Soviet peace committee is actually much more independent than a lot of organizations in the West that have to either look for government funds or also for funds from foundations. So, I mean I don't quite understand, I guess what do you mean by sweeping aside to cynicism? Maybe you can clarify a little more\r\n\r\n- Well, you told us now well, that's\r\n\r\n- Well I'm a journalist and I realized that I can only really comment on what I saw that given time. And I also recognize that four visits don't make you an expert but what I can do and what I do try to do. And I think this is up to the people in the audience to make their own interpretation is I do try to relate as faithfully as I can what it was I did and what it was I saw and what it was I felt about it. And more than that in good conscience as a journalist who's trying to be as accurate as possible. The more than that, I wouldn't try to do, it's up to the people here to evaluate against what you know about other situations and to think about what we've been talking about tonight and to draw your own conclusions.\r\n\r\n- I was just wondering did you talk to anybody who did have doubts about the appropriateness of military response.\r\n\r\n- NO.\r\n\r\n- No, and I would say actually the only time that we really were talking about Afghanistan was when we were in mania I've been in Afghanistan twice myself and I've had a chance also to assess some of the developments there. And I feel rather strongly that what the Afghans are saying is correct. And that is that if there were not outside assistance to the people who were trying to remove the government that actually they would be able to take care of it pretty well themselves. Because of course we know what Mr. Reagan has said, the Carter administration provided help to the Afghan rebels quietly. And we know that the Reagan administration has been very outspoken. Reagan himself has said on several occasions that it was important to step it up, not just to continue. I could go on all evening about Afghanistan. As a matter of fact, it's a favorite subject of mine, but I to not get started. Is there anybody else who hasn't had a chance to ask or who hasn't had a chance to ask a question\r\n\r\n- Thank you anyone who wants to talk or has more questions.\r\n\r\n- Sure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36675/file/105838#t=0.0,2257.272"}]}]}]}