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This is funded by the TFC. It's also co-sponsored this evening by the Greenlee School of Journalism, and Communication, and Political Science. I'm . Is that better? No?\r\n\r\n- It's on.\r\n\r\n- It's not plugged in.\r\n\r\n- I'll just speak really loudly. Afterwards, there'll be a reception following. You can all come to this. Tonight's lecture Patriot Act in Iowa. US Attorney for the Northern District, Charles Larson, and US Attorney for the Southern District, Steve O'Meara, will join Iowa Executive Director Ben Stone, and we'll be having discussion tonight facilitated by Dr. Barbara Mack.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Thanks, Cara.\r\n\r\n- Good evening, and thank you for being here tonight. Can I do this? And now it really is off. I'm used to keeping three away. I like to deal with you people. You're not off, you're dealing with me. I think I'll feel like Oprah. And there's not quite a cord, but maybe if I jerk it a little. There we go. I think that will suit us a little better. Can you all hear?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- All right. Not since, in my opinion, 1798, has the United States been involved in such an intense discussion of a measure passed by Congress that attempts to balance the nation's need for defense and the nation's need for security against the civil liberties which we hold so dear. Tonight, we have an extraordinary panel who are going to discuss with you the USA Patriot Act passed by Congress six weeks after the events of September 11th. We have here both of the sitting US Attorneys General for the State of Iowa, and the Executive Director of the Iowa Civil Liberties Union, Ben Stone The panelists will share, our first two panelists will share 20 minutes in a formal presentation. Ben Stone will had 20 minutes to respond, and we intend to leave a lot of time for questions, because it's this kind of public discussion that is going to generate what we hope will be the consensus with which we can all live. I'm going to take advantage of my time at the microphone to introduce all of our panelists. I will introduce them in the order in which they will speak. In the middle of the table, allow me to introduce you to Charles Larson who is the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Iowa. He was appointed by President Bush in October of 2001. Prior to this, he was the chairman of the Iowa Border Parole, and was a member of the president's Drug-Free Communities Commission from 1998 to 2002. He was also director of the governor's office of drug control policy, pardon me, for five years. He also served as the United States attorney for the Northern District of Iowa, between 1986 and 1993. He has lived in Saudi Arabia. He has been active in public safety, and issues of public safety, and is a retired colonel in the Army Reserve. On far, on mine, far right at the table, closest to me, is Stephen Patrick O'Meara. Mr. O'Meara is the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Iowa. Lives Des Moines. He is a native of Des Moines, is a Creighton lawyer. Started his career as a trial lawyer in Des Moines, but very quickly moved into government service and was an assistant Iowa attorney general, was the county attorney for Page County, then became an Assistant US Attorney in Omaha, moved to the Des Moines office of the US Attorney's Office in 1990, and was recently appointed as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Iowa. Ben Stone, many of you may know. He is the executive director of the Iowa Civil Liberties Union. That is a nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization founded here in Iowa in 1935. It's affiliated with the American Civil Liberties Union, and is the fifth oldest ACLU affiliate in the nation. Mr. Stone is also a native of Des Moines. We've got a lot of homegrown talent here tonight, don't we? Graduated with honors from Drake Law School in 1995, and obtained a master's degree in history and philosophy from Iowa State University in 1990. He joined the ICLU in 1996, and prior to that time, worked with Parrish, Kruidenier, Moss \u0026 Dunn in Des Moines. This is indeed a panel which will provide thought-provoking discussion, and I think a multimedia presentation. Be prepared with your best and wisest questions. Mr. Larson, the floor is yours.\r\n\r\n- Ms. Mack, thank you very much for the kind introductions. Pleasure to see you again this evening, and it's a pleasure to be here with all of you folks, and I'm confident we'll be able to answer some of your questions, give you some background on the Patriot Act, and you'll go home feeling more comfortable about it and understanding it better. Also with us this evening, because sometimes in the past the questions have ranged beyond the Patriot Act, and has sort of been a mixture of what involves military law regarding people held in Guantanamo, and things like that. And rather than just saying, \"Well, that's not part of the Patriot Act, \"I'm not gonna really get into that tonight,\" we have Patrick Reinhart from our office. Pat, you just want to stand up? Has joined us. He's a colonel in the Army Reserves, a judge, and is called to active duty from time to time to preside over military trials. So, he personally, has a good background in that area. If you have some questions, why, we may divert to him when we're in the panel format. Now, I'd like to just review some aspects of the Patriot Act, and then I'll turn it over to my colleague who will go through some of the details, and relate to you some of his experiences with similar laws. In fact, we have for you the real definition, if you haven't seen that in the past. Now you'll get a chance to see where the name came from. Of course, if you go to work with the government, you have to be up with all of the acronyms. Well, September 11th changed our country, perhaps forever. Congress quickly realized that we were in a war that was the largest attack ever on the continental United States. The largest attack period, because it actually killed more people than we lost in Pearl Harbor. So, we're reminded on a regular basis, daily basis, that we are in this war. Congress gave the president certain rights for that. And the Congress also then moved to pass the Patriot Act about the time I became a US Attorney again in the Northern District. And we ask ourselves will it happen again? And perhaps, yes. Perhaps, yes. That's an unanswered question. We certainly hope not. It's happening at small stages throughout the world. Not as bad as the attack that occurred on our country, but is continuing to happen. Can it happen here? That's a question that we asked, too. Well, it's not likely because common sense tells you that terrorists want to make a great impact on our country, and they want to shock us, and they want to kill hundreds. So, it's not quite so apt to happen here, but are there relationships and can things take place here? Yes. You'll notice a picture of Mr. Hinsa. Joseph Hinsa was arrested in Cedar Rapids. He had committed acts both in the Southern District and the Northern District that involved false documents relating to immigration, social security, and things of that nature, and recently pled guilty in Detroit. Well, he pled guilty here, and then his case was handled in Detroit. And he testified then recently in a case that involved a group that were considered a sleeper cell, and he has not yet been sentenced. So, he was residing here in Iowa. Also, we have seen evidence even in Cedar Rapids, and Scott, or Todd Vota, who's with us this evening as our intelligence officer, and he noticed this over by the downtown Cedar Rapids post office, marked there on a transformer case, the ELF graffiti symbol. ELF is the Environmental Liberation Front, and they're an organization that recently bragged about destroying $60 million worth of property in the United States, so they're considered domestic terrorists. ELF has also noted, and they have conducted acts in Iowa by releasing minks and conducting other terrorist acts here in our state. The Patriot Act is really designed to allow law enforcement, intelligence agencies to finally share information in the common sense approach. It also updates the laws reflecting new technologies. Now, Stephen O'Meara will get into some of the details of the technologies, how they've changed, and why the law had to be updated. Common sense will tell you that. How many on a cellphone with you tonight? See?\r\n\r\n- What a cue.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- How much did you pay for that?\r\n\r\n- So, you have a cellphone with you, and just your imagination will tell you, \"Now, let's see. \"If we're gonna follow that cellphone \"and check on the numbers of people they call, \"it's not gonna be just one location, \"one address in Cedar Rapids.\" It might be all over the country. It might be a throwaway call. So, Stephen's gonna get into more of those details. And it also increased certain penalties that are involved with crimes related to terrorism. Now, last October, hearings were held as to see how the Act is going because I think as Ms. Mack said, it's created a lot of discussion. We haven't had a lot of heated discussion here in Iowa, but it has created a discussion. And then the Act called for followup reports to Congress, and one of the early reports took place in this past October. I have just a few of those quotes for you that you can glance at to show you that oftentimes, those that might be critics were now more comfortable with the Act after individuals came in, testified, said how much it had been used, or in fact hadn't been used, to check on library records and things of that nature. Senator Feingold was the one senator that voted against the Act, and he has even now changed his position. One of the areas where Congress quickly discovered is the fact that the criminal investigators couldn't share evidence or information with intelligence investigators. This wall really came up probably in 1975 with the Church investigations or hearings that were conducted, because at that time it was discovered that the law was such that if the attorney general of the United States made a finding that there was foreign intelligence information being conveyed between individuals in the United States and to other foreign governments, then they could share that information if the attorney general so approved it. Actually, at that time, the investigation surrounded Dr. Martin Luther King, and the attorney general then was Robert Kennedy, and he was approving, then, the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover to monitor certain activities going on. Congress conducted investigations under Senator Church, and they said, \"Well, it's going too far. \"Maybe we need to do these things \"because we know that President of the United States \"is in charge of defending the United States, \"and there are times when that president \"should have vast authority, but we better have court look \"and follow up on these items.\" So, they established a court, the FISA court, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court, and that consists of 11 judges who were appointed from among the federal judges, and then they come into Washington, and then they are the ones that approve search warrants and other activity that takes place that involve foreign intelligence activities. Now, Stephen will touch on some of the times when he would go to a federal judge in Des Moines, or if he were working on foreign intelligence issues, then he would go to the FISA court in Washington. Actually, he and I won't be doing that because there's a special team of experts with the justice department that appear before that FISA court on a regular basis. But Congress decided, \"We need to be able \"to exchange this information quickly,\" and thus, that was part of the Patriot Act, where now, there can be a better exchange of information between investigative agencies and our folks that are the experts in the military, the CIA, and in fact, even with the war in Iraq, now there was some direct information that was a result of an ongoing criminal investigation in this country that was passed quickly to the military to key targets. Now, I'm gonna turn it over to Stephen, who's going to go through some other key parts of the Act, answer, and then I think we'll answer your questions. Stephen O'Meara.\r\n\r\n- Good evening. Judges have a hard time keeping me on podiums. I'm gonna try to stay here. Kind of a quick summary of the Patriot Act, particularly as we might look at it in Iowa. If you notice, it's very heavy with regard to money crimes. And the reason for that is on the interior of the United States, a lot of the focus of the anti-terrorism effort, in addition to prevention of acts of terror or violence, is there's a lot of potential fundraising that goes on for terrorism in the interior of the United States. So, really from our perspective, the money aspects and the information sharing are really the main things that impact in Iowa. And I'll just throw out a question to you, since this is supposed to be kind of a thought thing too, and then we'll go ahead with what my understanding of some of the Patriot Act. I think one of the real things we're facing here is I think as a society, we really need to decide what we're dealing with. Is it a crime? Is it a war? Is it is civil enforcement? When is it what? Because that really impacts a lot on what rights apply to whom at those times. One of the things that the Patriot Act has done, and we're gonna see this a couple of ways, is that it has provided multi-jurisdictional capability. Now, the slide says single jurisdiction search warrant, but as you can see from the arrows, what it really does is it allows someone, in this case in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, we could do the same thing in Des Moines, or in Davenport, or in Sioux City, where we have the sites of federal courts in Iowa, we could go to a court in that jurisdiction. And in certain situations, we could actually get the ability to do searches, extra district. We could go outside of either the Northern or the Southern District of Iowa. We could go outside of our circuit. We could really virtually go anywhere in the United States to exercise certain warrants. Now, there are limited circumstances in which you would go to a FISA court to do some of these things. I am not a FISA court expert. In fact, I don't know anyone who really, at this point, short of some of the drafters, could really claim to be Patriot Act experts. This is in small print, the Patriot Act. And as you know, I've got an awful lot of markers there and there's a lot of highlighting beyond that. It's really a complex law. It touches a lot of other statutes, but one of the things you might think about in terms of distinguishing FISA court from regular criminal court is if you want to, if you have something where you can't call it a crime, either by a specific articulated reasonable suspicion or by probable cause, but it touches on the area of intelligence within the United States, you probably go to the FISA court. That's what that exists for. That's really more for intelligence situations. If you can call it a crime, and it's something one of our offices is dealing with, we would go into a federal magistrate judge or a federal, we call an Article III judge, which is a plenary jurisdiction district court judge, to do these things. So, one of the comparisons that we would have would be a delayed notice of search. There are special provisions to be able to do this with the FISA court, where you can go, and ordinarily, when you exercise a search, whether it's electronic or physical, you have to give the people who are the subject of the search, in control of the property being searched, some sort of timely notice. Under the Patriot Act, that can be delayed. In fact, it can be delayed on a repetitive basis indefinitely. The fact is, other than going to these intelligence situations, which are outside the spectrum of crime itself, we have had this capability for quite a while. Proverbially, in the common law, we call them sneak and peek warrants. And in a situation in which that might arise would be you're investigating a drug case and you know there's the cash, or drugs, or money, or something at a certain location, and you want to go in and see what's there, you have probable cause, and you want to make some recording of what you find. So, for example, you want to photograph it, but you don't want to interrupt the flow of the crime because it's still under investigation. So, you get a court authorized ability to sneak into the location and peek and see what they have and record that, usually photographically. And you don't have to leave a notice that you were there, at least at that time. There will come a time when you have to give notice, and the court controls that. That's existed for quite a long while. The same thing with the idea of getting search warrants. You can go to the FISA court in those intelligence situations and get the ability to go across the country on a single warrant. But the Patriot Act also amends rule 41A of the rules of federal criminal procedure, and allows that you can go, for example, to a judge in Des Moines and you can get a warrant to search the property or the person of someone in California. Now, you still have to show all the things that you've always had to show in terms of a probable cause showing to the judge in order to get the warrant, but that warrant can be exercised within or without the jurisdiction. Another thing is roving wiretaps. And again, the big distinction here is with the FISA court you can get that on a different standard, particularly dealing with a situation in which you would not yet call a crime, but the fact is, and both Pat and I would have used these in drug enforcement, you mentioned cellphones, cellphone technology is intended to be mobile. And frankly, there's more use of cellphones than landlines with regard to criminal activity. In order to stay current with the technology we have for some time had the ability to do a roving intercept of communications over those cellphones. So, really the concept is not new. The extension is to the intelligence situation with the FISA court. Pen registers are the same thing. A pen register, registers literally, the connections between telephones. Not the communications per se, but one number connecting with another number. We've been able to do this for a long time, and I'll point out historically, these did not exist in the law when they were first recognized by the United States Supreme Court in a case coming out of New York. And that case, the United States Supreme Court found that under what we call the All Writs Act, under the rules of criminal procedure, that the court had an inherent power to grant this capability to intercept these digital, the dialings between two telephones. Well, that's now been extended, and it's an ex parte order. We going in and get it by making a showing of reasonable suspicion, claiming that there is an investigation, and certifying to the court that this pertains to the investigation, but we can get that anywhere within the United States now. So, again, really in terms of the law, there is not a significant extension here. Stored electronic communications. Again, the main thing is, is it's things we've been able to do before, but now we are without geographic limits. I'm gonna go through some of these kind of quickly and we'll entertain questions on them. Subscriber information. We've been able to get subscriber information for quite a while, particularly again, drug cases, organized crime cases. What happens under the Patriot Act though, is there is a more specific delineation of the information which is available under that Act. Access to business records and items. Something, again, we've been able to do for quite a long while, either by court order, by administrative subpoena, by an agency, or most frequently I think, in the United States attorneys practice, by grand jury subpoenas. Grand jury subpoenas issued by the court, but in essence, the controlling of the issuance of the subpoena is by the United States Attorney's Office. Only in rare circumstances would we actually approach a court to get access to business records. There are some expanded capabilities under FISA to get records, but generally, it's the same power that we have had before, and the main extension is to intelligence situations, rather than crimes. There are a number of examples, and I just picked one of them out of the Patriot Act dealing with disclosure of consumer reports. And really, this is set up on a kind of a three-level basis. There's some ability for an agency, for example, the FBI exercising its authority at the level of a special agent in charge. The special agent in charge of the FBI for Iowa is actually in Omaha, Nebraska, and deals with three federal districts. That person is the lowest level within the FBI that could make a decision to exercise the authority in a consumer matter to get the identity, just the identifiers, relative to an individual. If you actually want the consumer report, you really need to go to a court to get that. And one of the distinctions, and this actually comes out of the FISA language, but the activity, the intelligence activity that's being looked at, if it's not a crime, that investigation must not be conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which would include, for example, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech. Things like that. That cannot be the sole basis. The FISA court will not grant the authority to get into financial records, consumer records, and so forth, if that is the only allegation that is contained. There are some crimes that are either enhanced or created by the Patriot Act, and I'm not gonna go through all of them because there are actually quite a few. There are also definitions of terrorism, both domestic and international, but one of the things that has been created is the bulk cash smuggling. And if you notice, many of these things we're talking about are not specifically limited to terrorism. The multi-jurisdictional search warrant was, in some circumstances, limited to terrorism, but the pen register, for example, is not limited to terrorism. In fact, without giving any details, I will tell you that our districts use these things, for example, in drug investigations, because they are not limited specifically to situations of terrorism. Bulk cash smuggling is one of those. Basically, $10,000 in currency or other monetary instruments, smuggling them in or out of the country, that might just as well apply to a drug situation as to terrorism, but the law is there and can be used. Todd? Unlicensed money transmitting businesses. I'll just tell you that generally. there's a requirement that either under federal registration or state law, if you're going to engage in money transmitting businesses you have to be licensed. If you don't have a license, you're subject to violation of the Statute 18, United States Code, Section 1960. That's not new with the Patriot Act. That's been there for some time. What is new is what we call the sinkter or knowledge requirement, that whether or not the defendant knew that the operation was required to be licensed, or that the operation was so punishable. That's the difference in the statute that the Patriot Act makes. Extended venue regarding money laundering. This is kind of a change, and I'll tell you we had a successful prosecution in the Southern District of Iowa just recently using this. It's public record. I'll tell you that it involved AccessAir, which is no longer with us in Des Moines. It involved a leasing corporation for jets. And basically, what happened is although they were not doing the money laundering in the Southern District of Iowa, they were transmitting money from Des Moines that was the proceeds of the illegal activity. It was going to offshore accounts. This is all based in the public record. And the real money laundering was occurring in those offshore accounts, so outside of the regular jurisdiction of the United States. But under the Patriot Act, that was able to be prosecuted in Des Moines, Iowa, because that's the way the elements or the crime read now. Todd? Mandatory detention of suspected terrorists. And this is probably one of the more interesting areas to really get into in the Patriot Act. In fact, the whole area of immigration law and detention is a really very interesting area. I'm not an expert, but I've become much more familiar with it since September 11th, 2001. Basically, it amends an existing statute, a series of statutes. It requires whenever the law says shall, it means must. The attorney general, which means immigration and naturalization, now immigration and customs, must take custody of an alien certified to be, and that's my parentheses there, a terrorist. It's a lengthy definition that's in the statute, or engaged in any other activity that endangers the national security of the United States. So, have to take custody of the person. Removal proceedings or a criminal charge, however, must be brought within seven days, or the individual must be released under the statute. The detention can be extended from time to time for six months at a time, subject to the alien requesting review and presenting evidence as to why the alien is not within the classification of what I'd call a terrorist under the statute. These are important considerations, though. The time limitation in terms of bringing an action for removal or charging with a crime is very important. And the fact that there is regular cyclical review is very important in satisfying Supreme Court requirements. And basically, you can keep rolling over the six months if the release of the alien will threaten the national security of the United States or the safety of the community or any person. There is a right for the individual so detained to challenge the detention by an act of habeas corpus, which can be brought to either the Supreme Court, and this is a paraphrase, there's really four categories, or to the District of Columbia Circuit Court. There's an appeal then to the full court. There's also the ability of an appeal to the Supreme Court. And every six months there has to be a report by the attorney general to a select committee of Congress relative to the use of any detention under this statute. I raise this case. I just don't know how many of you know about this even. This occurred in Ames, Iowa about a year ago. The Joint Terrorism Task Force actually made an arrest here. Didn't make an arrest under the Patriot Act. It made an arrest under the firearm statutes of the United States. One is for Fuan Muhammad, a Malaysian national, domiciled in Ames working in north central Iowa, an Iowa State graduate. Actually, fairly talented with regard to software applications. He was convicted of being a foreign national in possession of a firearm. It is a technical violation. He received a year and a month in prison as a result of a plea of guilty, and immediately following imprisonment he will be deported. At the time, the Joint Terrorism Task Force exercised a bonafide federal court search warrant in Ames, Iowa. They found a Marlin 30-30 caliber rifle, a Russian SKS semi-automatic, easily converted to automatic rifle with retracted fixed bayonet, a 30-round magazine, which actually in many situations in itself would be a separate firearms violation. A 12-gauge shotgun, 175 12-gauge shotgun slugs, which is about five years of normal hunting, 2,300 rounds of ammunition. There are also a number of other videos and pamphlets with regard to engaging in warfare acts of violence, including taking down and killing people with body armor, which in the United States are generally, the police. And when confronted and questioned by the Joint Terrorism Task Force, he openly stated that he was Mujahideen, a holy warrior, that he was preparing for combat, that he would definitely want to go to Chechnya and engage in combat against the Russians, and he was undecided about going at that time to Afghanistan to engage in combat against Americans. My time is up. I think we'll leave it at that, and rest with questions after that.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. For the other side of the issue, Ben Stone.\r\n\r\n- All right, I guess that I want to thank all of you for coming out tonight. It's always nice being in this room. This is the room that I was, my wedding reception was in this room. So I have fond memories of this place. Because we don't have a whole lot of time, I want to start off by saying that if you have a real keen interest in this information please go to the ACLU's website and look at all kinds of stuff there. If you're interested, you can also go to the lifeandliberty.gov. I'll plug it for ya.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- But go to the ACLU one, too. Don't just go to theirs. It's ACLU.org. And if you're interested in membership, I brought some envelops over there and there's some newsletters. We're a nonprofit organization, and we really do require membership to stay afloat, and it's growing quite a bit lately, for reasons that I suppose many of you can understand. I want to touch on a theme that's kind of underlying most everything that I talk about in the next 20 minutes. And that theme is that some of you may have heard that we're a nation of laws, not of men. I remember learning that in undergraduate. \"What does that mean? \"I don't know what that means.\" Well, it's basically the idea that one single person cannot control you. Whether it's a president, or a king, or a dictator. One person, one man, does not dictate the law. And under everything I'm gonna talk about, whether it's the Patriot Act, or enemy combatants, or Guantanamo Bay, it's about that. It's about in a democracy, laws are what govern what happens. You don't pass a law that says, \"The executive branch can have all the discretion at once \"in a given area, with virtually no involvement \"by the judicial branch.\" That isn't how democracies work. Checks and balances, accountability, transparency. So, that's gonna undergird most everything I talk about. The fact that we have today, a PowerPoint presentation and both US Attorneys for the State of Iowa is really, I think, revealing. You may recall that last summer John Ashcroft went on a tour, and his tour included Des Moines, Iowa, and he spoke about the Patriot Act. He wouldn't speak to average, everyday Iowans, he spoke only to closed audiences of law enforcement. And the whole point was to, it was speaking to to go out and talk about the Patriot Act and trying and dispel what they conceived to be myths, often put out by the ACLU, according to them. And back then, last August, I believe, that there were about 150 states, and cities, and communities that had past resolutions in opposition to the Patriot Act. Well, in the six months, five months, whatever it is, since he was here, that number has grown. I found out just this afternoon to 250. This afternoon, New York City passed a resolution calling for amendments to the Patriot Act, and LA passed it last week. So, it's approaching, I don't know, 60 million people who are covered by the areas that have had resolutions passed. The Bill of Rights defense communities. There's an effort here in Ames to do this, as well, and other cities. And you may have heard in the State of the Union Address that the president spoke about renewing the Patriot Act, and not letting sunset provisions make portions of it go under. Well, a few months ago, back in November, he was talking about expanding the powers that the government has related to the Patriot Act. He called for expansion. You know why? Because people in Congress, liberals, conservatives, people in between, have no interest in seeing expansion of the powers in the justice department. From the Rutherford Institute, to Phyllis Schlafly and the Eagle Forum, to the Free Congress Foundation, to the National Gun Owners, to the American Family Association, conservative groups, the Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist. I mean, these people have conservative credentials that are unmatched, and they're not thrilled with expanding government power. Particularly, the power of the executive. Remember, we're talking about primarily, the power of the executive. In the United States, we have three branches of government, and the idea is checks and balances. Judicial branch checks the executive branch, checks the legislative branch, legislative branch checks the executive branch, and that's been thrown out of kilter by the Patriot Act. And so, those are things to keep in mind. I do want to touch briefly on two very big issues. I don't want to spend a lot of time on them because we can maybe do it during the question and answer, but they're really very important. There are two basic areas where the United States Supreme Court has decided to get involved. The first one I'll mention is the detention of foreign nationals at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. The United States Supreme Court has decided to take the case. There's two cases, actually. And they're only gonna decide whether or not the United States Federal Court system has jurisdiction over whether or not the treatment of these people that were basically, picked up in Afghanistan, few other places, whether or not these people have access to the court system in the United States. And there's a lot of technical arguments there. I mean, we'll get into some later. I'm not sure if Mr. Reinhart has some knowledge . The other one I want to bring about is the enemy combatants. I'm sure most of you in this room have heard of of Hamdi and Padilla. While the case of Yaser Hamdi was accepted by the United States Supreme Court, late December, and just last week, or actually, last month on December 18th the case of Padilla, Padilla is the man who was picked up in Chicago. United States citizen, and he's currently in a military brig. He's had no charges filed, he hasn't seen an attorney yet. Anyway, there was a case ruled by the second circuit in December, which ruled that he should have some access to an attorney, and some kind of process whereby to challenge his detention. And so, that case just today, the government filed for a petition for to United States Supreme Court. In the Padilla case, they lost. The government lost at the federal appeals court level. So, there's a pretty good likelihood that Padilla will be picked up, as well, and we'll have the Padilla and Hamdi enemy combatants situations being confronted by the United States Supreme Court. And also, the question of whether or not people in Guantanamo Bay have the right to have jurisdiction by the federal court system on their situation. And it is difficult to exaggerate the magnitude of these cases. You can go back to the Magna Carta, and I meant to double check. I think it was 1215. The Magna Carta in England that limited the power of the king to imprison people. And obviously, the United States, you go back to the Bill of Rights, the writ of habeas corpus before that. The writ of habeas corpus is something four or 500 years old. The notion that an executive on his or her own with no involvement from anybody else in the judicial branch or the legislative branch could have the power to declare someone an enemy combatant, take them off the streets of the United States, as American citizen, lock them up, no charges, no trial, no lawyer, no contact forever until the war on terrorism is over, that is a power that is unparalleled in Anglo Saxon law for centuries. And the Supreme Court of the United States will decide this by June, and I hope that you have an interest in this, and follow it, because it's gonna be something to be very aware of. If you believe in prayer, pray for the court to understand the magnitude of that question. Now, getting to the Patriot Act, I'm not gonna get into a lot of the details. First of all, I thought it was a very nice presentation. Many of the things in the Patriot Act are fine. They make very good sense. It's a very, very big bill. 342 pages, I believe. And the ACLU actually has not called for the repeal of a single section of the Patriot Act. There was a bill in Congress called the SAFE Act. It's a security and ... I can't remember what it is. All these acronyms. Whoever thought up that Patriot Act acronym, that was creative. I don't know if it was Viet Dinh or not, but anyway, there's a SAFE Act acronym, and it calls for the change of four different sections, and I'll touch on those briefly in a little bit. I do want to mention what we've been dealing with in the ACLU, and other organizations, like I say, it's not just the ACLU. It's the Free Congress Foundation, it's the American Tax Payers Unions, all kinds of groups. Our concern with the Patriot Act, and like I mentioned this website that the justice department has put up called lifeandliberty.gov, and it really is disconcerting to have to say that there has been many distortions and outright lies by the justice department. Now, for all I know, these gentlemen up here are doing their best to make the justice department uphold fairness and rightness in what they do, but the simple fact is that there have been instances of the spokespeople for the justice department at the national level repeatedly saying things like that Section 215, the section that deals with, that can be used on library records does not apply to United States citizens, that probable cause is required, both of which are absolutely false. Go back to the law. It's important to realize that John Ashcroft last September spoke about after two years of saying that it was classified, whether or not the justice department had used Section 215 to access library records, he decided to declassify that information and stated that it has not been used, not even once. Well, couple ways to respond to that. One is, that's good. Another is, well then, you must not need it, and you oughta repeal it. And another response is that we don't really know how much that means because there have been instances where Viet Dinh, the chief author of the Patriot Act actually had stated that at one point 50 different libraries have been approached on a voluntary basis to provide information. But it is an understatement that is classified information was also declassified when Ashcroft went on his tour to promote the Patriot Act. Some other instances that should be noted have to do with the fact that Section 215 was described by the justice department for several months as only applying to business records. What doesn't apply is to any tangible things as writing a bill. And they've quit doing this after a while. They finally decided they could no longer get away with it. They've also talked about how you must convince a judge before you can get information under Section 215. Well, what they don't say about that is that Section 215 basically says, and you can read it for yourself, states that if the attorney general, justice department, whichever, I'm not sure which one it is, certifies that the information is being sought for an ongoing investigation of an intelligence nature, terrorist nature, it's obtainable, and the judge shall issue the order for the information. So, the judge really does not have the discretion that a typical federal judge would have in issuing a search warrant. And that was one of the things in the SAFE Act is to basically insist that... That's a very low standard, relevant to an ongoing investigation. It could be that your cousin knows somebody who's a neighbor of somebody who might be a criminal. Relevancy's a very low standard, and the SAFE Act asks that, that standard be taken back to there is specific and articulable facts that demonstrate that the person whose records are being sought, library records, business records, medical records, is an agent of a foreign power. Another thing that was mentioned in the display here was that 1st Amendment rights are protected, saying that if you're a United States person, permanent resident or citizen, the justice department cannot access your records based solely upon 1st Amendment protected activity. Well, that's really of little comfort when you realize that all that need be done is for there to be another reason. Like maybe once you traveled to the Middle East, or maybe you know somebody, maybe you're a neighbor, maybe you wrote a letter that was critical of some policy, and yet there's something else that you've done that they could point to that is somewhat remotely suspicious, and bingo, they can do that. Now, is it being done? Do we know? Rather doubt it, actually. But go back to the rule that we're a nation of laws, not of men. The law says they can do it. If you have any understanding of history, it's very important to keep in mind that people tend to abuse power that they're granted. Conservatives and liberals agree on that basic premise, that you simply cannot trust the government with unmatched power, unchecked power. We need judges looking after executive branch, law enforcement, and that's really what the changes that are sought are about. And I'll also mention that the inspector general of the justice department issued a report that he's followed up on now since last June detailing some of the really terrible, terrible treatment of the detainees after 9/11, these people that were deported, ultimately, after months and months of detention. They were abused. The report is very disconcerting. And in that investigation by the inspector general, they were told, this is the inspector general within the justice department, they were told by people at this detention center in Manhattan, that there were no videotapes to show the treatment for these individuals that were in custody. 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Republican,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43596/file/116625#t=35.413,38.473"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43596/file/116625/transcript/28704/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and another gentleman who I can't recall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43596/file/116625#t=38.473,41.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43596/file/116625/transcript/28704/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A 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And prove that and some odd. Disciplinary actions are recommended and I don't know what's happened on that. Then again I wouldn't expect this gentleman to know that was over on the East Coast. I would just like to finish up with a brief mention of what the ACLU is asking to change. This a bill called the Safe Act that is co-sponsored by I believe Stensenbrenner Republican of Wisconsin, Craig of Idaho another Republican, and another gentleman who I can't recall. A Democrat. And what it calls for is that section 206 that these roaming wiretaps that were also mentioned earlier. That these roaming wiretaps simply being tied to an individual person who might use several phones. And if they don't know who the person is at least what is gonna be wiretapped. In other words, what is going to be done. So asking to specify instead of just saying you can wiretap anybody you think you might want to wiretap or anything you want to wiretap. The section 213 delayed notice. That was also mentioned in the presentation. They're right. Delayed notice has been around for centuries. What has changed with the Patriot Act was that basically removes some of the specific language that had been used by the federal courts. To bring this, circuits that had different standards. It basically said when could notice be delayed? And what we're asking for in the Safe Act, which Republicans and Democrats are co-sponsoring, is simply a statement that one, there needs to be a specific statement regarding, you know, destruction of evidence and danger to life, things such as this. And also that the delay is gonna be seven days with an opportunity to renew it. Seven days in seven day increments, provided that the attorney general can continue to show to the court's satisfaction that it is necessary to satisfy the conditions that we're asking to be put in a court of law. So a very reasonable change, not getting rid of it. Not saying that you can't do it. You're gonna have to tip off the carets. That's what we're talking about. Section 215, and this is the one I mentioned where they want to make it so they're after a specific and articulate facts. that the person that you want to get other records, is actually an agent of a foreign government direct fax alleging that because the FISA court is not about fighting criminals. It's about apprehending terrorists and foreign agents that are trying to do damage to our country. And then finally, there's some sunset provisions that are in there that we expand more sections of the Patriot ACt to be sunsetting at the end of 2005. So those are some of the sections that want to be changed. I do also, want to wrap up here. By just saying that there's a section 802 of the Patriot Act. It deals with the definition of domestic terrorism and it basically talks about, that someone can be a domestic terrorist if they commit a criminal act in the United States territory, that is dangerous to human life. And I wanna ask a question maybe to start off the situation. I learned earlier today that three peace activists in Dumont have been served with grand jury subpoenas by the United States Attorney's office for the Southern District. These are individuals who have participated as Catholic workers, and America's friend service community, Quakers. And a non-violent civil disobedience against the National Guard for several years. They have a long record of non-violent protest and they've been served with a grand jury subpoena. which means that they have to go to the federal courthouse on February 10th. And they have to go before a grand jury without an attorney and answer questions. And I know that Mr. Miller cannot talk about grand jury proceedings 'cause they are a secret. But I do think it's important we all consider that. We need to give the benefit of the doubt, because we don't know that this is about. But I would venture to say, that if it turns out that this grand jury investigation, doesn't amount to much And if it's really more about intimidating the senators in this country. There is gonna be a lot more people that just need to sell you are gonna be little bit upset. 'Cause that's not the pose in America But let's hope that this grand jury investigation That's taking place in Des Moines, Iowa where peace activists was alive with a long history of nonviolent pacifist civil disobedience, are being brought before the federal grand jury, And been forced to answer questions. That this is not something that we will need to be ashamed about later. Let's hope.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Malcolm it's your time to be able to speak, we have a microphone set up. Please feel free to walk to the microphone and we'll take three or four questions. Or we could be here until midnight. And we get snowed in. Please state your name if you would if you're comfortable doing so and state your question.\r\n\r\n- I fear not.\r\n\r\n- There.\r\n\r\n- Maybe now. of UMES. Question for either of the U.S attorneys. You repeatedly mentioned this FISA court. This is the court that, am I correct, that reviews the search warrant wiretap, etcetera. For requests from prosecutors and investigators in this area. Is that correct?\r\n\r\n- No. No. The FISA court is a very specialized court. Look at it this way. Everything we do in Des Moines or Cedar Rapids does not have to do with the FISA court. Neither one of us can have anything to do with the FISA court. General wiretap applications pin registers, search warrants, trap and trace devices stored electronic communications, go to judges that are appointed and serve on general criminal and civil cases in the federal judiciary in these locations.\r\n\r\n- Yes, but in the national security area the FISA court does very few requests all of that type..\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yes, they do.\r\n\r\n- Okay. So they are, would it be fair to say, they are the bulwark that is supposed to protect the constitutional rights and the target of any investigation?\r\n\r\n- Whether federal judges, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Mhm.\r\n\r\n- Appointed by a variety of presidents, past presidents.\r\n\r\n- Okay. My question to you is this. How many requests has the FISA court handled, and how many requests have they denied?\r\n\r\n- I don't know.\r\n\r\n- We don't- It's secret. We have no access to it. That's what we've been trying to tell you.\r\n\r\n- I don't think they're denying many because the preparation is exhaustive and they have to be approved by the attorney general or somebody at the deputy high level. But, but not many because they have done their preparation thoroughly.\r\n\r\n- Mhm\r\n\r\n- I can, I, I know it, but I'm not positive. I think it's something like 170 and there's only been 12 that were even questioned and none of them were, were denied outright. So every single application over the last 25 years-\r\n\r\n- No denials whatsoever?\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- It strikes me that that's not much of a watchdog of our basic constitutional-\r\n\r\n- Well, there are- They are federal judges and, you know, I'm sorry you don't trust the federal judicial system, that's all I can say. They are federal judges are appointed by a variety of presidents.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and you have to understand it. You know, the whole all the laws are based on the constitution. That's what the ultimate test is here. And it's we the people. So that's you and that's me. And I certainly want my constitutional rights protected. In fact, I take an oath to protect yours and I live by it. I think that's overlooked here. I'm not gonna make any personal attacks. I spent most of my career working to protect your civil rights. I really have. FISA court, 170 cases over how much time?\r\n\r\n- About 25 years. That's a number that comes to my head, could be higher.\r\n\r\n- Compares to the docket of the Southern district of Iowa? Four, 500 cases a year in criminal court We're talking about an infinitesimal number of cases nationally. And U.S attorney Larson is right. They really have to prepare it to present these. And then it is a matter. Do you trust the judicial officers to make the decision the presidents of both parties have put them in place to make? Do judges make mistakes? Absolutely, they do. Do they routinely make mistakes? I don't think usually. And it doesn't just require as a regular wiretap can be looked at by one judge. That's not only, that's not easily gonna happen in the FISA court. It's a pen. That's an increased effort to protect civil rights in an area where there is not a defined crime that's being looked at.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Mr. Gillespie, next question.\r\n\r\n- Yes, I'm Michael Gillespie. I'm a journalist. I have a general question this evening, and let me preface it by saying that, I think we all want to trust our government. We all want to trust the department of justice and all our enforcement agencies. And we all appreciate that since 9-11, there hasn't been another terrorist event of that scale. But yet, many people are troubled by what appear to be, what appears to be that, Attorney general Ashcroft and pursuing more power than than the government seems to need. And I think, given that the gravity of the tragedy that happened on September 11th, few Americans would thought attorney general Ashcroft if there had been any accountability for the massive intelligence failures on the part of the United States government that led to the tragedy of September 11th.\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.\r\n\r\n- I haven't asked the question yet.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I thought-\r\n\r\n- My question is, how can you gentlemen justify attorney general Ashcroft's apparent zeal for what appears to many people to be excess power? Given the fact, that there has been no accountability whatsoever for the massive intelligence failures on the part of law enforcement in this country and intelligence agencies in this country that led to, that allowed the attacks on September 11th to happen in the first place. If there had been accountability for those failures, there would not be the fear that is palpable.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Okay. We wanna get as many questions as we can. Do you have a response to that?\r\n\r\n- I have a couple of responses. Number one, I'm not really here to personally defend Mr. Ashcroft or anyone else. I think I, I prefaced all my remarks by saying I don't want to get into personal attacks. Number two, I want to disagree seriously with Mr. Stone's analysis, that there are areas in which the judiciary does not have almost exclusive jurisdiction without judicial intervention. For any of you who read the Cases of Law the United States Supreme court in 2003, decided the case of Hyung Joon Kim. H-Y-U-N-G-J-O-O-N-K-I-M. Now it doesn't pertain directly to the Patriot act, but there are these three cases in the 2003 Supreme court to touch upon areas in the anti-terrorism effort. If you read this case closely you will see that in matters of immigration. In fact, the executive branch can have, according to the constitution of the United States as interpreted by the United States Supreme court, almost exclusive jurisdiction without the intervention of the judiciary, even including in some circumstances the right to habeas Corpus. These are not my words. These are the words of the United States Supreme court. Number two, in the area of military law, the civil courts of the United States generally do not have jurisdiction. So if you'll notice the first two situations that Mr. Stone spoke about Guantanamo Bay and enemy combatants are not covered by the Patriot act. That's not the issue here. Those are areas of law that are going to be decided by the United States Supreme court, as they should be. As I support. Number three, I'm not at liberty to really agree or disagree with some of your comments, but I think I do disagree with some of them. Number one, attorney general Ashcroft is not responsible for all of the intelligence agencies in the United States. That's very clear. Number two, you're presuming facts that I don't know that have been demonstrated as to where the fault might lie with regard to intelligence failures and intelligence community that obviously was built or dismantled long before the current administration. And what my politics are, or are not, have nothing to do with that. In fact, I'm not a presidential appointee I'm a career attorney for the department of justice. I am in fact, in a protected position, I can have my opinion without any sense of undue allegiance at all to any current administration.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Is this kind of like having tenure?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Okay. I want to be very cautious. We have lots of people who want to speak here and I think we'll probably going to come back to some of these. I would also remind people we need questions and preferably as concise as I would have you write them in my journalism class. As we say in journalism, short is good.\r\n\r\n- Hello, I'm Sarah Early and I'm afraid I've never taken your journalism class but I can make it short. I was just curious, if you could briefly describe what kind of access law enforcement officials had to library records before the Patriot act has passed.\r\n\r\n- Sure. Yeah you-\r\n\r\n- Thank you\r\n\r\n- Sure. Well, I have access to routine subpoenas. I don't know if you've ever subpoenaed any library records. I don't think we have, but the government has the Kaczynski bomber case. They were, they looked at library records here, several examples. The who was the, the fellow in New York that shot all of the people--\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] son of Sam.\r\n\r\n- Son of Sam. I looked at the library record there, So yeah, it's pretty common. That's the part I'm most puzzled by all excitement but to get a routine, you gotta be working on a case, a legitimate case, but you can get those records now. I found myself at a dinner in an Iowa city and I was sitting next to the person so public relations director for the library in Cedar Rapids which has half the population Des Moines has and checks out twice as many books. And I point out, I said 'Were are you all excited about this?\" \"Well no, that's no big deal.\"\r\n\r\n- I think you can currently get them under administrative subpoenas, grand jury subpoenas, or court orders without any reference at all to the patriot act.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Next question.\r\n\r\n- If I could just make a quick comment. The difference is that, you know, going after records of people that you suspect to be a criminal is one thing. Being able, under the law, being able to go after the records and the medical records, the genetic records, Ashcroft is admitted, could be achieved under this library records. Being able to get those without having to prove that the person who's getting them from is a suspect of a crime is intolerable in this country. It can't be tolerated.\r\n\r\n- Well, then, then you're back of course to not having any confidence in the federal judiciary.\r\n\r\n- Well now-\r\n\r\n- Sorry-\r\n\r\n- The federal judiciary should be involved in this. That's the problem.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, they are.\r\n\r\n- They certify-\r\n\r\n- No, they are If you're gonna get library records for a foreign intelligence investigation. You're gonna go to the FISA court. Again, it's the judges, now-\r\n\r\n- And all you have to do is demonstrate that it's not for an ongoing criminal investigation. Right in section 215-\r\n\r\n- As opposed to demonstrating probable cause.\r\n\r\n- If you think you're not interested in it then you should let the law be changed.\r\n\r\n- We don't want to digress, we've lots of questioners. Next question.\r\n\r\n- All right, um-\r\n\r\n- I can tell it's going to be a real interesting reception. You all better stick around and have punch.\r\n\r\n- I'm Sam or younger. I was just wondering, is it possible or likely, but there's a system that, you know, would a bug every phone in, let's say, in a city or a nation and after someone said a keyword such as drugs or bomb, can be activated for an investigation. So like widespread bugging among cities or States nations?\r\n\r\n- There's something, the national security agency. I saw something on 60 minutes. But I can't tell you. There is some kind of listening worldwide by satellite that picks up a lot of that stuff. And there are key words, but that's just according to 60 minutes.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but if bomb is the key word, all it'll get us is a lot of stuff of the Janet Jackson show at the super bowl.\r\n\r\n- I don't know what that has to do, yeah.\r\n\r\n- You cannot listen to other people's wire or oral communications without, unless again you're in a FISA court situation, without going through the department of justice to the highest levels and showing probable cause to intercept that person for specific crimes that already exists before you intercept. And then you have to go to an article three, judge. A full plenary power judge, and you have to have the judge approve it. In my experience, which is fairly substantial in the area of electronic surveillance. The average wiretap affidavit idea where there's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 pages long replete with facts as to why we should be able to intercept communications of this person for these specific crimes for a limited period of time and reporting to the court, usually every two weeks.\r\n\r\n- All right, so considering that, then there shouldn't be anything you know, you know, more--\r\n\r\n- You're not worried are you?\r\n\r\n- Bugging, no\r\n\r\n- Just a little nervous but not bugging like a whole system, you know a whole city. presuming that the whole city isn't full--\r\n\r\n- I'll also tell you this is a practical matter. It's not free to do this. It costs to do it. So by the time you put the paperwork together with the cost the reality under the current situation of doing what you're saying, is a virtual impracticality. It just, it just probably wouldn't happen.\r\n\r\n- Then this, it's a big deal It's rare. We were visiting, at dinner and I was a US Attorney for seven years before a Northern district didn't have a wiretap. They're a real big, expensive deal. I wouldn't worry one bit. I'd worried more about the next course you got. Right.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Next question. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Good evening. My name's Jonathan Greenly. No relation to the college of Journalism. I'm actually a civil engineer but I did have a question that probably be answered by anyone on the panel. As, as far as this new information sharing capability goes between agencies, such as the CIA and the FBI. Is there a concern now that information that might not be so accurate as it's recently come to light, with our foreign intelligence services, could that information now be used in domestic courts where people are supposed to be granted the the security of having a trial based on facts and fairness?\r\n\r\n- Thanks. Well, we have to get permission to use it. I don't understand last part, facts and fairness--\r\n\r\n- Basically what I mean is, that maybe that wall was originally there. That's what I'm trying to try to get here is that what was originally there to separate what might be less solid the foreign intelligence information is held by agencies such as the CIA, from entering into the area of grand jury subpoenas in the FBI where cases are investigated and involving, you know, domestic citizens and where everything that's carried out in the courts involving citizens here in the United States should really be based on facts. Is there any sort of concerns that you had now that false information or information that might not be so certain from foreign intelligence might seep into or be transmitted to the FBI using domestic cases?\r\n\r\n- For routine- Well, I think the concern was more toward one of the earlier questionnaires we had about why didn't we do something right away, sooner. And there was some indication and we couldn't, it was classified, but there were concerns we couldn't exchange information quickly. And that concern outweighs your concern. And Congress voted, overwhelmingly passed the Act. I'm sure they considered all that. Believe me, they seemed to consider all of the-\r\n\r\n- And you are talking about an investigation as opposed to charging or trying to prove a crime, it's a huge difference. Instinct is still a huge part of successful law enforcement.\r\n\r\n- In support, I realize that, but I understand that FISA court, admissibility in trials for criminal charges and there's, that's still an issue. that the Patriot Act didn't necessarily say anything the FISA court hears can be brought in as evidence. I think there's still some standards there. I'm not sure. 'Cause it's a very legitimate concern, you know intelligence strict. And shouldn't be convicted on that.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- My name is I'm a professor here. If we pick a microscope and look at the shifts in the law over the past couple of years then perhaps Patriot Act does not as represent the major shift. But then to broaden our frame of references, I look at trends over the decades. The shift is huge. When I immigrated into this country in late 1970s, I was proud of the welcome that foreigners enjoyed in this country at that time. If you were a foreigner, or an alien, and within the United States, the burden of proof was on government to throw you out. If they wanted to report you. Every foreigner had full protection of the American laws simply by virtue of being within the country. Nowadays, not only foreigners are under apriori suspicion with no solid fingerprinting or photographing, but also American citizens are being arrested and held in communnicado as we heard in the previous presentation. This is a huge shift. This country has turned from one that is devoted to freedom and civil liberties and welcoming outsiders, to a country closed, almost xenophobic.\r\n\r\n- Is there a question?\r\n\r\n- No, this is the prelude.\r\n\r\n- Okay, then let me ask you a question.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- At all times you were present in this country, were you here legally?\r\n\r\n- Yes I was.\r\n\r\n- Do you think it has always made a difference over the United States constitution, whether or not you're a foreign national here legally? The answer is yes. It has always made a difference. Do you think it makes a difference? Under the United States constitution, whether you're you are not a permanent legal resident alien, as opposed to any other status of alien in the United States? The answer is yes, none of that has changed.\r\n\r\n- I think it has changed.\r\n\r\n- I reference you to, again, Hyung Joon Kim. It's the most recent case I could find that addresses these issues. That's the law of the land.\r\n\r\n- Well, we lived in California in the early eighties and I knew from personal observation, the children of all aliens in California, had rights to education. Well, certainly right to public education. Nowadays in the same place where I used to live, in Pasadena, California, this is not the case. So there has been a change.\r\n\r\n- Okay, but that's not constitutional law.\r\n\r\n- It is the law as held by the citizens of the country and as proceeded by the world.\r\n\r\n- Okay\r\n\r\n- Constitution, I agree with you. The constituiton does not defy right to public education. But we are citizens, we view our government as one. Back to my question, I spent first half of my life in a communist country which was still rather intolerable. I hear now from attorney general Ashcroft the same things that I heard, and I was ashamed of. When I lived in California, mainly from his own mouth, that when one critisizes the president, one works for the terrorists and plays it to their hands. I want to ask you gentlemen, who are attorneys, since your boss says that is that the policy of the justice department? Since the Attorney General said it? Does the justice department have apriori suspicion against citizens who criticize the president? And his handling of terrorist legislation?\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Response?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- No, we haven't started any. I think as Steven said earlier, where one section particularly we don't look into first amendment rights. I was down at the farmer's market in the morning one Saturday morning and a woman's passing out flyers to vote for her for the school board. She was the socialist candidate for the Des Moines school board. And I asked her if her brand was the same as that in Russia or our former Soviet Union or Cuba or North Korea. She gave me kind of a dirty look, but no we don't investigate people based upon their first amendment rights. It's your right to stay in there and pass out leaflets. And we didn't discuss the attorney general-\r\n\r\n- So does it mean that the statement by attorney general--\r\n\r\n- It means that, I think that intelligent people discriminate between political comments on the law and the enforcement of the law. My oath is to the constitution of the United States and to protect you, that's my job.\r\n\r\n- Leonard, I think we need to-\r\n\r\n- I consider Attorney General an officer of the law, not a politician. And when he speaks about who does what and what is on this one, what is not, to me this is the law speaking, not a politician speaking.\r\n\r\n- My name is Robert Bomb. Repeatedly we've been told that we should be comforted that federal judges are our safeguard in some of the patriot Act and that we should trust our judges. I'd like to remind the panel that, if president Bush is not re-elected. Another president will be enforcing the statutes of the Patriot Act. Imagine if you will, a president who would appoint a man to a promoting sitting judge to a higher court in a recess appointment who improperly interfered with another judge's discretion in sentencing a man for cross burning in front of the house of an interracial couple. Imagine for a moment, a president who's vice president goes duck hunting with a judge who is about a Supreme court justice. Who's about to rule on a case directly involving the vice president. Imagine a president who appoints the sons and wives of Supreme court justices to federal government positions. And imagine that new president doing those things. And I was wondering whether that you would find it very disturbing lights going on your minds about the independence of the federal judiciary.\r\n\r\n- Personally, I have lots of issues about both the past administration and the current administration as for law enforcement officials. But unfortunately this is- no, fortunately this is the country in which I live and I would choose to live here over any other country in the world. And I do think we need to protect our civil rights but I haven't heard a thing out of you about the Patriot Act. So I don't know where to start to begin to answer your question.\r\n\r\n- Hello, Rubik I'm a student here thank you for taking my question. Well, I guess all the speakers said a little bit about how there was a differential introduced in the Patriotic Act. I think it existed before that, but between the ways the government can proceeded in investigation or prosecution based on a person suspected or charged with terror-related or terror-related crimes or not. I'm wondering, the gentlemen from the civil liberties union mentioned that there were quite lengthy standards spelled out the Patriot act. I was wondering what those were, how those would apply to, for instance, someone arrested on immigration violations, how, what the government, what prosecutors would have to prove for that person to be charged or to be investigated using these statutes. That are tied to whether or not that person is a terrorist or suspected of terror-related activities.\r\n\r\n- Well- That's kind of a difficult question to get through. I'm not sure my- I'm gonna answer it on this as this way. When someone is an immigrant the standard for bringing them into custody, and ultimately deporting them is a much different standard than the standard that applies to citizens who are being charged with crimes. Whether they're terrorist crimes or other crimes. And so it's different. The constitution still applies to all persons in the United States in varying degrees, in different contexts. But if you are a foreign national in this country and you're found to have violated the law, sometimes a very minor law, that can be grounds for deportation. That's often that that's what happened and to great extent after 9-11 but I can't really answer it on whether- Steven or Chuck one of you can do either, but the distinctions you're talking about are highly technical. And I don't, I don't know them and I would have to look them up and share them with you later.\r\n\r\n- I think if you're going to charge somebody with a crime, it doesn't matter. I really think that. It doesn't matter if you're a foreign national, a permanent legal resident alien. If you're going to charge them with a crime you have to have probable cause to charge and they have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And all the due process protections associated with charging with crime applied. So for example, the case I was giving at the very end. One is Farrakhan Mohammad. Was a Malaysian national charged with a crime in the United States. Not a United States citizen. He was entitled to and received all of the substantive and procedural due process protections that you would be entitled to. But if the person is being picked up for an immigration status violation, for example, they are not United States citizens and the constitution and the Supreme court have been characteristically clear on that. There's a difference there. But if it's a crime, that's a bright line. If it's a crime you're entitled to substantive and procedural due process.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Thank you.\r\n\r\n- May a pause a quick follow-up?\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Then I guess what you mentioned there were some, courses of events that were, areas of investigation was it the wiretaps? I really should've taken notes. That applied to terror related activity. And some of it didn't.\r\n\r\n- Yeah\r\n\r\n- Actually, if you wanna- I think if we want to do it that detailed, we might want to do that while we're chatting.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- Thanks. I think we have two more questioners.\r\n\r\n- I'm Tyler Stamp and this is a question for Mr. Romero. You said during your speech, I guess that in certain circumstances like war or in crime that rights can be taken away from a person. And I was wondering what rights those were\r\n\r\n- The question I was posing. And I'm gonna suggest to you as a we, the people not as a prosecutor. One of the things we have to deal with in society about the anti-terrorism efforts. Where's the distinction between a crime? Where's the distinction between a war where you declare a person to be a combatant? Patrick is really more the expert on that because that's military law. The key though, is there has to be a beginning point. And under that beginning point, you have to be able to demonstrate something to put the person into the classification you're claiming they're a part of. And certain of those attempts, for example, have the right of habeas Corpus, where you can challenge your detention. It literally means bring the body before me to see if the body should be released. I'm not an expert on the military side. That's not at all my expertise, but for example, even with regard to foreign nationals in this country. If they're here illegally, they don't have the protections of the law very much at all. They probably had if they charged with a crime- We made that distinction, thanks to the very good last questions we had. But if, if they're kicked up and can be administratively removed, they will still have some rights. But the United States Supreme court has said those are almost none. And that in fact the Congress can define it to be no judicial intervention. I'm not, read the case. That's those, those are my words. But if a person is a, is a legal, permanent alien they are at home in this country, much as you or I are at home in this country. And they should have protection as much as you or I should have in this country.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Now, we have two more questions\r\n\r\n- I'm Michael, a graduate student here in UMES. An uninhabited due processes for nationals. I guess I have two questions. The first one is if a foreign national detained you mentioned that they met the definition of a terrorist first off, who decides that? And then my other question is when they are detained it seems like the burden of proof is placed on a foreign national to prove that they shouldn't be detained. I'm just curious what the rationale behind that is. Ah, thank you.\r\n\r\n- I think, and again, this is not something we deal very much with with the Patriot Act in Iowa. But my understanding of the way, basically the attorney general, Congress defines the attorney general applies and the attorney general applies through What is currently called immigration and customs enforcement. That's really who applies it. Again though, if they're not released within seven days they either have to be charged or a deportation removal proceeding has to be begun, or they have to be released within seven days. And as you enter any one of those procedures there are certain rights that attach. But again, there's a huge difference between being charged with a crime, being a legal, permanent resident alien, and being someone who is illegally in the United States as to what due process you would get. But at the end of that, seven days some rights should attach. I think Jen said that one of the fundamental rights that should attach in all that he's, he's one of the authors of the bill that used to be with the department of justice. Now with the Georgetown law center. He indicated that one of the fundamental rights that really should attach is the right to representation so that you can have an attorney help you through the minefields of the American legal system. So, so there are certain rights that almost everyone would have, but it really varies according to who you are in that circumstance. But the seven days is very important as is the six months. And those are those not the timelines, but the fact that there are incremental times review is something that this Supreme court case I keep referring to deals with in terms of who's entitled to that and who isn't.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Our final questioner.\r\n\r\n- Hello, my name is I just have one question. So like, since the Patriot Act is such a big and a huge act, What is the government doing to educate and avail the, try to create awareness among the aliens who are there in the country? And also in case of, I was just wondering if there's an organization out there, represented by aliens. Maybe like, trying to protest against the Patriot Act or even formation of such an organization would a violation of the Patriot Act?\r\n\r\n- Well, there's various organizations that exist for various nationalities. You know, it was Arab groups, Muslim groups, African groups. And they're making efforts to educate the people from their countries. The ACLU has filed, On the Patriot Act, the ACLU has filed the first lawsuit challenging portions of the Patriot Act. And it had to do with section 215. And the fact that mosques in Detroit and Michigan have seen a decline in their in their tenants and the Muslim charities or people are afraid to give money. And, so that's a challenge. Actually just last week, the first federal judge ruled a portion of the Patriot act unconstitutional that had to deal with material support to a tourist organization and advice and expert advice. And so international groups are making an effort to educate their people. I'd suggest looking on the internet finding the organizations. And obviously the ACLU has some foreign language like, seven different middle Eastern languages with know your rights brochures.\r\n\r\n- I might mention, if you're really interested in following up on who's the combatant and what can Americans do or not do, there's a, an interesting book about the Americans that were determined to be, by the title of the book, shadow enemy spies, and then were tried and executed during world war II and the leading Supreme court case there to cover many of these areas is cited in there. The whole, the whole case is set out in NY Corning. U.S the ex Barcade Corning. So I can show you this after kind of kind of interesting part of our history. You all must have quite a bit of interest to sit here for two and a half hours, hour and a half.\r\n\r\n- If I could, I'll make a closing comment. And I really feel compelled to, because I, I think that there was a gross misrepresentation of the situation. And again, I don't want to get into any personal dispersions or attacks. There's no question that there are people that demonstrate a stark armory down by Des Moines and whether or not there's a grand jury. This is the absurdity of the law sometimes. Whether or not there's a grand jury investigation of that, I could not tell you because federal rule of criminal procedure 60 precludes me from even acknowledging whether or not there's an investigation. So it's, it's incredibly brave of someone to raise that issue when I can't comment on it even whether or not it exists. But let me tell you what I can comment on. I can comment to you that the public record clearly shows that a large number of those people have have protested there a number of times. And that every time they've crossed on to federal property, I guarantee you that as either a misdemeanor, or a felony offense of a federal law and they have never been prosecuted. Well, Mr. Stone neglected to tell you when he was telling you about the peaceful demonstration is that the public record will show that the deputy sheriff was severely kicked and suffered serious injury to, to a knee. That's the public record. That fact was not brought.\r\n\r\n- Um--\r\n\r\n- That's record. Don't take my word for that and go look it up.\r\n\r\n- Are you finished?\r\n\r\n- I am.\r\n\r\n- Okay. First of all, I did explain to people that you cannot comment. And if you're gonna use the standard that I can't comment because there's a law that says you have to keep secret that there was a grand jury investigation and that is a real recipe for a secret Government. So that's kind of what And I made a very express statement that we need to give you the benefit of the doubt. And we need to see where this goes. And yes, there was an allegation of a Severe kicking, as you described it. I've certainly heard from several people who were there but that is a gross misrepresentation. And that is something the government has alleged. And by the way, at this demonstration in November previously, whenever this has happened it's happened, you know, about twice a year. I think they father Frank Codero- Police show up, they talk about how to do it, they say, we're going to stop here. You arrest us, all that. All right, and so, anyway, at the last one, they had something like 40 officers there, 17 of them in full riot gear. For the exact same people they've been dealing with for 10 years.\r\n\r\n- That is, I mean, I asked you to hold that comment because frankly it doesn't relate to what we're here to talk about and that's the USA Patriot Act.\r\n\r\n- Well, my question before was whether or not domestic terrorism is the, I mean, he can't answer this, I know, but I think that's a good question. Is this an example of the Patriot Act being used in the United States and having a domestic terrorism investigation under the new definition and because of observing the law as Steve already mentioned, he can't answer that.\r\n\r\n- I couldn't.\r\n\r\n- It's a good question.\r\n\r\n- I can't talk about this specific case, but I can tell you that there are at least three statutes that I have personal knowledge of because of an incident of international guard base earlier or last year which was not prosecuted federally in spite of a lot of pressure to do so. That there would be allegations of of crimes outside of the Patriot Act. The grand jury is used for criminal investigations. It's part of the beauty of our system. If there are differences of facts being alleged about what occurred in any situation and there's a potential for federal prosecution you must go federally, it's constitutional. You must go to the grand jury. And the grand jury helps sort out whether or not there's a violation of federal law. So if any, that has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. That's just the way the criminal system works in the United States. And that's a good system\r\n\r\n- I have the joy of the last word, because I'm the moderator. And I will tell you, while I am a state employee and needed to stay tough, I'm also something of a coward. Because I would probably never have the courage to run for public office or serve in the public capacity that these two gentlemen are serving. I think we have seen tonight a demonstration of what it means to be a passionate, intelligent dedicated citizen from two very different perspectives. The tough part for you all is you need to be too. And your presence here tonight indicates that you are. There is a wealth of information about the Patriot Act, pro or con. It will come before Congress. The safe act, I think will be debated. And you have to, we have to leave here tonight with I think the heaviest burden of all and that is to continue to educate yourself and to continue to participate in democracy. When Congress debates, whether the Patriot Act will be extended, expanded, contracted, or ended, please don't let that debate occur without making your sentiments known to your elected representatives in Congress. Citizenship, 101, it's tough, but aren't you glad we live here. Thank you very much. Let's have some punch and cookies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43596/file/116625#t=0.0,2661.504"}]}]}]}