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I'd be amazed if they would,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105737#t=2651.24,2653.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105737/transcript/22740/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's throwing money down the drain, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105737#t=2653.4,2656.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105737/transcript/22740/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's my personal. 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I'm Mark Mifser, coordinator of the Ames Bilateral Freeze Campaign. Before introducing our speaker, we have a few announcements to make. First of all, there will be a reception following the talk this evening, the reception will be at the Ames Peace Connection, which is the new office for the three Peace Organizations here in town. It's in the basement of Alumni Hall beneath the YMCA and the YWCA. Secondly, there will be a benefit concert for the Ames Bilateral Freeze Campaign tomorrow evening at Diggins Deli starting at 9:00 PM. A band from Iowa City called Blue Earth will be playing. Earlier in the evening at 7:30, there will be a meeting of the Ames Peace Network, also in the basement of Alumni Hall. Among other items will be a discussion of local and regional activities related to the international days of protest against Euro missile deployment, October 21st through 24th. Our speaker this evening is Michael Gendrisik, as Director of disarmament for the Fellowship of Reconciliation, he is one of the most quoted authorities on the European missile crisis. He is the chief liaison person between the National Freeze Campaign here in the US, and the European Peace Movement. A recent magazine article noted that he was one of the originators of the concept of establishing October 21st through 24th as a period when Americans will join Europeans in protesting the deployment of new missile systems in Europe. With that I'd like to welcome Michael Gendrisik.\r\n\r\n- [Michael Gendrisik] Thank you very much. First of all, I'd like to apologize. I came back from London last week with a terrible cold, and I also wanna apologize for the background noise. I wish we could get Reagan and Andropov to express their aggressive, hostile feelings on the way our friends are there, next door. A recent article in the Wall Street Journal by two right-wing French journalists began this way, \"The great contest between pacifism and security, which began in 1979, is now entering a decisive and dramatic phase. If pacifism wins out and the demonstrations planned for this month throughout Western Europe succeed in intimidating the NATO Alliance into canceling, postponing, or reducing the deployment of Euro missiles, new difficulties will arise.\" And the article goes on to describe what those would be. This morning's New York Times had a very brief note in the world news roundup, that once again American and Soviet negotiators met in Geneva for talks to limit medium range missiles. They met for an hour and 55 minutes, and this was their 96th session since the beginning of these discussions in November, 1981. And that was the end of the report. And of course, this is quite typical of what we've been hearing since those negotiations started. Very little of anything of substance, but simply the format of the negotiations themselves taking place. And those negotiations have served as a very nondramatic backdrop for what both superpowers are doing and are about to do. As they each have tried to create the image that they are trying to be flexible, and it is the other side that is to blame. So that if indeed a confrontation does take place at the end of this year, the blame will clearly fall on the other person's shoulders. What we've been hearing in Moscow recently in the last few weeks, and I think this will continue and accelerate in the coming weeks, are threats of retaliation. The Soviets walking out of both the medium and strategic range missile talks in Geneva, deploying new missiles not only in Eastern Europe, but possibly off of our own shores, here in North America. In Congress in recent weeks, there've been expressions of growing anxiety about what the effect of this missile deployment, should it occur, will be on our NATO partners and on the NATO alliance itself. And this of course is quite ironic, because at the same time we're being told that the deployment is necessary in order to cement the alliance and keep it together. And yet in fact, it may become one of the most threatening things that the Alliance could do to its own survival. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that we're on the brink of a very important event with long range significance for all of us. That poses a major challenge, not only to the peace movements on both sides of the Atlantic, but to the future of arms control and disarmament and perhaps survival itself. And what I'd like to talk about this evening briefly, is something about the background of how we got to this point. A little bit about the current political situation here, and especially in Europe, and the way this whole issue is perceived by the European public, the European Peace Movement and the various political parties. And then something about what the various goals and strategies that are being pursued by the Peace Movement to try to avert the coming crisis and confrontation, and what can be done to perhaps turn this crisis into a real opportunity, perhaps. Perhaps, if we're lucky. A real opportunity for some real progress towards peace and disarmament. As you know, the United States is preparing to deploy some 572 new cruise and Pershing II missiles in five countries in Western Europe. The United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Belgium, and Holland, beginning this December. And this process of deployment will take place over the next two to three years. The first deployments are scheduled to take place in Britain with 16 cruise missiles being deployed at the Greenham Common Base, which is about 50 miles outside of London. The last two weeks there have been reports in the British press that in fact, the missiles have already been put in place, been flown in at night by helicopter, and they're simply awaiting final installation and operation. Nine Pershing II missiles are due to be deployed in West Germany, at existing missile sites outside of Stuttgart and Munich, where currently Pershing I missiles are stationed. 112 cruise missiles are slated for Comiso, Sicily. It's an old World War II, pretty much abandoned, air force base in Sicily. And this will take place between now and March, 1984. These are again the first installment on a series of deployments that'll take place over the next two to three years. And they really represent a unilateral escalation of the arms race in Europe with the introduction of new, more sophisticated and more dangerous technology into the European theater. These weapons have no purpose, no reason for existing, except for use in escalating towards a counter-force strategy that is targeting military targets in the Soviet Union, and using the strategy and supportive conventional forces in the event of a Soviet attack on Western Europe. They are part of the overall move towards a first strike and counterforce capability that our government has been embarked on, at least since 1979. And in fact, if you look back a little bit, there's evidence that the army, the US Army, showed interest in the Pershing II as early as the late 1960s. And this is a direct quote from the United States Army Officer, that they were looking, at that point, for a missile that would do a more efficient job wrecking an enemy site, without destroying the town nearby. Sort of the same rationale that gave us the Neutron bomb. So, there was a need for a much more highly accurate missile that could conduct these kinds of surgical strikes against military targets. A little bit about the Pershing II, since this is, I think, the most dangerous of the two weapons. It's a surface-to-surface missile with a range of about 1000 to 1200 miles, and it has an incredible accuracy. It's claimed to be able to hit a target within 40 to 50 yards of the target. And what's called a kill probability, in the Pentagon jargon, of 99%, which is just phenomenal. It's a degree of accuracy that just does not exist anywhere else in the world, in any other kind of missile. This would make the Pershing II the perfect kind of missile to use in a first strike against command and control centers, radar installations, and so forth in the Soviet Union. Of course, you may have read in the newspapers that the Air Force has not been totally happy with the testing program for the Pershing II, and in fact, five out of the 16 tests conducted so far, the missile has failed. But they expect that when the technology is perfected, it will represent a quantum leap in the ability of missiles to hit targets, flying at speeds at up to 15,000 miles per hour, which will also make it one of the fastest missiles available in the US arsenal. At that speed, and with that degree of accuracy, it's expected the Pershing II could reach targets deep within the Soviet Union within as little as six to 12 minutes, which is a very short time and would perhaps force the Soviet Union to put their missiles on what's called \"Launch on Warning\". If you saw the film \"War Games\", it gave you some sense of, though slightly exaggerated, how computers are now used in the defense systems of both countries. And what's very scary about this development is that if the Soviets respond to the deployment of Pershing II by putting the missiles on Launch on Warning, it will be their computers that will make the decision, whether or not an attack against the Soviet Union is really underway, and whether or not their missiles should be fired. And in fact, the computers would actually fire the missiles. The cruise missile, the United States is preparing to deploy in tens of thousands. The United States has had a lead in the cruise technology over the Soviet Union for quite a while. In fact, several years ago, it was offered to the Pentagon as a trade-off to a SALT agreement, that cruise would be a bargaining chip in the SALT process. And of course, what we're getting now is we're getting the cruise and we're not getting the SALT treaty, which is very much the way these bargaining chips have worked over the last 35 years. Already, there are air-launch cruise missiles being deployed on B52 bombers based in upstate New York, Michigan, and soon to be deployed in North Dakota. The Navy is preparing to deploy several thousand sea-launched cruise missiles on ships. In fact, where I live in New York, we were recently told the Navy had decided to station a frigate off of Staten Island, New York, loaded with Tomahawk cruise missiles, equipped with nuclear warheads. Which is the first time that we'll have nuclear warheads in the New York Harbor, at least as far as I know. But it's the ground-launched version of the cruise that is due for deployment in Europe. The cruise is a very small, about 20 feet long, and you could stick it in your station wagon or in your VW van. A pilotless bomb, jet powered, traveling at very slow speeds compared to the Pershing, but having the same kind of targeting accuracy, the same kind of computer radar system, which makes it very accurate. What's especially threatening about the cruise, and useful therefore, for military people on both sides is that it can fly below radar. I was, last year, driving through New Mexico where the White Sands missile range is located, where they've tested the cruise, and people who live near there have described actually seeing them traveling along the desert floor and then coming to a foothill and literally going over the foothill and then back down, hugging the desert floor. And having incredible capability to follow the contours of the land below radar, which makes them virtually undetectable, and therefore opposing great difficulties for verification in an Arms Control agreement. From a military point of view, however, this makes them very useful as a possible follow-up weapon to a first strike, conducted by a Pershing II missile. This of course would give the Soviets the incentive to launch a preemptive strike to prevent the use of cruise missiles. They've already said that they will greatly accelerate, and I think they've already begun to do this, their own cruise development program, which as I said, has been behind the United States for several years in terms of its technology. Now, what we've been hearing from this administration and before it, from the Carter administration, is that these two new weapons are needed in Europe to counter the threat of Soviet missiles pointed at Western Europe, that in fact they're needed to restore what's called a nuclear balance within Europe, and it's gotten very confusing, I think, for most people following in the press the accusations and the stories from both sides. Each one describing what, in their view, is a nuclear balance in Europe. And actually it's a totally artificial construction from two points of view. One, the current negotiations underway in Geneva only take into account land-based missiles. They don't take into account bombers, they don't take into account submarines and other kinds of aircraft and ships already in the European theater, equipped with nuclear weapons, capable of delivering nuclear weapons, either at targets in the Soviet Union or in Western Europe. Secondly, and I think this is the most important point, the current negotiations happening separately, look at Europe as if it were separate from the rest of the strategic arsenals. Look at Europe as if it didn't exist within the broader context of an overall rush strategic parody between the United States and Soviet Union, with missiles on US and Soviet territory also aimed at one another. And in that way, it is again, a very artificial and limited construct, one in which it is virtually impossible to make any kind of rational Arms Control agreement, unless it's put in that broader context. But I think the most important thing to bear in mind and looking at the cruise and Pershing issue, and the Double-Track Decision, as it was called in 1979, to deploy these missiles, is that it was in essence, a political decision. There is no military necessity or military rationale for these weapons. Their deployment is purely a political act. And I'll say some more about that in a few minutes. But to go back to the question of the European balance, NATO currently has invulnerable sea-based forces, primarily submarines and aircraft, more than sufficient to deter any attack against Western Europe. NATO now has more than 2000 medium range nuclear warheads immediately available for use in an attack against the Soviet Union. If you limit that total only to aircraft and missiles, it is true that the Soviets have some advantage at a ratio of about 1.48 and the number of warheads that they have capable of delivering against Western Europe versus what we have. But when you look a little further, you see that most of their warheads are land-based missiles, which are much more vulnerable. And what this has given them is in fact, an edge in overkill capacity, but not any real edge in strategic superiority in Europe. For example, when President Reagan describes, he says we are at a 6-1 disadvantage in Europe, he not only leaves out the British and French forces, which from the Soviets point of view are just as threatening to them as American forces. He leaves out the fact, for example, that we have some 640 warheads just on four Poseidon submarines alone, which are deployed off the waters of Europe. It's also important to look a little bit in the history of how the current situation in Europe developed. After the Cuban Missile Crisis, the United States made a very deliberate decision to withdraw its land-based missiles, currently based in Europe, from the European continent. We decided that we had much more safety and security, in these more invulnerable aircraft and submarine based forces. Whereas the Soviets in response to the Cuban Missile Crisis, deciding to engage in a nuclear buildup to match our forces, which then were superior, decided that the one area that they could compete with us successfully was in the deployment of new land-based missiles in Europe. So, the Soviets now have some 248 SS-4 and SS-5 missiles, which are considered, for the most part, obsolete obsolescent weapons, that are not very useful in the event of an attack. However, since 1977, they have deployed SS-20 missiles, now totaling about 351. And, of course, there's been a lot of dispute back and forth about whether or not they are, in fact, putting in place a moratorium against future deployments, or whether those deployments are still going on. About a hundred of those SS-20's are targeted on Europe, and the rest are targeted on Asia. It's true that the SS-20 missiles are more advanced. They are two-staged surface-to-surface ballistic missile, that has a range of about 3000 miles. They are mirved, that is each missile has three warheads of about 150 kilotons explosive power. There are about 40 Soviet bases that have SS-20 missiles in place. And as I said, they were first deployed in 1977. However, it is a misstatement of fact and one that this administration engages in frequently, that they represent any increased threat in a significant way to Europe. The European capitals have been targeted by missiles in the Soviet Union, as I said, from the mid 1960s. And now the SS-20 adds to their overkill capacity, it does not really add to their first strike capability. Compared to the Pershing II, which as I mentioned, had a 99% kill probability, to use their Pentagon way of describing it. The SS-20 has a kill ratio of about 17%, that is, like most of the Soviet missiles, it's fairly crude and not very accurate. I think the point of all this is to show that both sides have, I think, engaged in deliberate deception of one kind or another, trying to show that there is, in fact, a balance, but that the advantage is on the other side and therefore, they need to take some action to redress that balance. Increasingly, people in Europe feel caught in the middle. And it's interesting to look back to the history of this decision in 1979, and to why people and why the decision was originally made to deploy these missiles in Europe to begin with. It really grew out, initially, of European anxiety and concern about the Neutron bomb, which is, you remember in 1979, President Carter wanted to build and deploy in Europe and asked our NATO allies for consent to do that. At that point, there was increasing concern, especially in West Germany, by Chancellor Smith, that the United States would not be willing to go to war and risk losing New York for the sake of saving Paris or Bonn. And that by deploying land-based missiles, we would prevent what they described as the decoupling of Europe from the United States, that we would be much more willing to risk a strategic, all out nuclear war for our European allies if we had land-based missiles. But it was also, and this is something that I think is for the most part forgotten, used by the Germans as a leverage to try to get the United States to negotiate with the Soviet Union. At that time, the SALT negotiations had just been started. And there was a lot of concern, especially in Germany that the European missiles would not be included in the SALT negotiations. And this was their way of convincing this US government to do that, and to include them in the negotiation. In other words, it was a bargaining chip. Again, that argument comes up again, a bargaining chip with the United States and many of the politicians who were involved in that decision, that Double-Track Decision, now realize they've made a mistake. And in fact they've said so, in some cases privately and publicly. The reason why it was called a Double-Track or Two-Track decision is that it involved simultaneously preparing to deploy these new missiles, and beginning negotiations. What happened though in the interim, was that Carter was not elected and Reagan was, and as you remember, he came into office being very bellicose about talking to the Soviet Union, refusing to engage in any negotiations. And it was only after a lot of pressure, primarily from the European Peace Movement and from the Freeze Campaign here in the United States, that the United States finally began negotiations, but two years late. In other words, the original Two-Track Decision envisioned four years of negotiations, parallel to the plans to deploy the missiles. And in fact, the negotiations started two years late. It's also interesting that the arguments for the negotiations and the deployment have changed, and in fact have been reversed since they started. Originally, the negotiations track was added to make deployment more acceptable to the public, that if arms talks were going on and there was the possibility that at the end of those negotiations, there would be no deployment, it would be easier for people to accept the possibility that deployment might happen. Now, it's been switched the other way around. Now deployment is necessary to ensure the success of negotiations, and that's what we hear over and over and over again, the Russians will not negotiate in good faith. They will not withdraw their SS-20's, unless we threaten to deploy. So, the argument has reversed itself. And of course, no matter which way you look at it, the outcome is the same, missiles will be deployed. And in fact, negotiations currently are a route towards deployment, not a way to prevent deployment. European public opinion and political parties in the year since 1979, have become increasingly divided and anxious about the Two-Track Decision and what its implementation would actually mean. Willy Brandt, Nobel prize winner, who was in the SPD government at the time, was actively involved in that decision, came to Washington two weeks ago, to testify to congressional hearing, sponsored by the Freeze Campaign and its supporters in Congress. And he described, in fact, how the conditions had, from his point of view, significantly changed since 1979. That in fact, it would be a terrible mistake and a disaster, if the original timetable set in 1979, to begin deploying missiles in December, was if we kept that timetable simply because that was the original decision made in that context. And in fact, Schmidt's party and Brandt's party, the SPD, are due to have their national convention, November 18th and 19th in Bonn. And every indication is that they are gonna come out strongly against deployment, which will be a total reversal of their original decision in 1979. This is, I think, one reflection of the fact that Europeans feel caught between the two superpowers. There were more nuclear weapons on European soil than any place in the United States. I mean, any place in the world. If you travel through Germany, West Germany alone, and see the real estate literally littered with bunkers with nuclear weapons. You cannot travel, literally, 50 kilometers in any direction without running into a base or a storage depot where nuclear weapons are stored. They feel increasingly, not only caught in the middle, but that they are to be the guinea pigs for a possible nuclear war, perhaps a so-called limited nuclear war between the two superpowers. And they see this impending escalation, that the deployment of these new missiles will begin, as really threatening them first of all. It's very important, and I don't think it's widely known here in the United States, to realize that this decision to deploy these missiles were not debated in any parliaments in Western Europe, with the exception of one, the Netherlands, where it was rejected. It was an undemocratic decision from the beginning. It was made by the foreign ministers and the defense ministers of NATO, a meeting with the United States ministers in Brussels, without the consultation of the European people. Recent polls in Western Europe point to the rising opposition to the deployment. The most recent polls in West Germany showed that 75% of the West German population, three quarters, are against deploying new missiles in December, regardless of what happens in Geneva. Even more significantly, 68% of the ruling conservative party, the Christian Democratic Party, are also against going ahead with deployment in December, regardless of what happens in Geneva. This pattern is repeated throughout the five countries in which deployment is slated. In Sicily, more than a million people, or quarter of the adult population, have signed petitions against the deployment of cruise missiles in Comiso. The Danish parliament has voted by large majority to withhold funds that are considered part of their contribution towards the NATO deployment. Along with the Greek government, they've also called on the United States not to go ahead with the deployment, to delay it, in order to give the negotiations more time. Within the last few weeks, the towns in Belgium and the Netherlands, where cruise missiles are due to be deployed, the city councils in those towns have voted themselves nuclear free, and said they would not cooperate with any preparations to bring cruise missiles into their municipalities. In 1981, more than 2 million Europeans took to the streets in almost every major Western European capital to say no more, we're not gonna be the Guinea pigs any longer. And this weekend I predict, we're gonna see even more, even more than 2 million people, again, flooding the streets of every major capital in Western Europe, beginning this coming weekend, and continuing through the end of October. There are tremendous tensions building within the political parties, both the governing parties and the parties in opposition, in almost every major country in Western Europe. The thing that really puzzles me and that I find really hard to understand, looking at this from an American perspective, from someone who, as an American citizen, feels that we gave so many American lives for the salvation of Europe in World War II, why is it that our allies are resisting, our doing something for their benefit? Why is it that they are questioning the deployment of these weapons, which we say are for their security? And yet they say more and more, they don't want them. I would think that would make people here wonder what's wrong, isn't there something slightly askew here? And of course, if you go to Europe, what people say to you is, \"We don't want them, our government doesn't want them, it's your government that wants them, and is convincing ours to accept them.\" You go to Washington DC and you hear the opposite argument. The United States never said we needed to put missiles in Europe. It was our European allies who said we had to put them in, and we're only responding to their requests. So we're really caught in this trap. Another unfortunate thing is the way the elections in Europe this past year have been misconstrued, and I think deliberately misused by Reagan and Prime Minister Thatcher, to say that those elections were a mandate for deployment. It's true that in the Netherlands, West Germany and Great Britain, more conservative governments that favor deployment were elected in each of those three countries. However, those elections were in no way, a mandate for deployment. The missile deployment issue was not the primary issue in the elections in either three countries. In fact, it was the economy that was the deciding factor in each case. And exit polls that were done, for example, in West Germany afterwards confirm this, that it was not the major issue people were voting for. And I think the other thing to keep in mind, especially as we're entering an election year here, and I was being stumped by every presidential candidate in the Democratic Party, is the other reason the Conservatives won, is that there wasn't a credible alternative that people could vote for, and that they could trust in. So, they voted for the known evil rather than the unknown evil. And again, I think that's a lesson for us here. So, the European Peace Movement has really taken root in this environment, in this climate, it is the most broadly based, widespread movement that has ever occurred in Western Europe since World War II. Its goals, and again I think there's a certain amount of misperception here in the United States about the goals of the European Peace Movement and its attitudes, are for a nuclear free Europe, East and West. I think most Europeans feel at a gut level what Robert McNamara said in a foreign policy article a few weeks ago, that Europe is simply not defensible with nuclear weapons, they are just not usable in any rational way on the European continent, either from the East or from the West. The second understanding that many Europeans have arrived at is that the division of Europe into East and West is an artificial one, and is the product of a superpower competition that the people of Europe increasingly disowned, don't want to have any part of. And that in fact... Putting their countries in the role as catalysts and buffer zones between the two superpowers, and saying a plague on both your houses, we don't want to be part of either block system, either on East or West. It's unfortunate, I think, and in some ways deliberate, the way the European Peace Movement here has been portrayed as anti-American. If any of you have traveled in Europe, you know there is, at some level, within many European countries, a certain anti-American sentiment, which I find in some ways understandable. I mean, they've been culturally and economically and in other ways, dominated by the United States since World War II. Obviously they've been beneficiaries of that relationship as well. But I think it's just totally inaccurate to say that the Peace Movements are anti-American per se, and don't care about Soviet missiles. If you look at the newspaper pictures here of demonstrations in Europe, they very often don't show you the signs that say \"No SS20's\", only the signs that say \"No cruise\" or \"No Pershing\". But I'd been in some of those demonstrations, and I assure you that the concern is equally directed at both sides. What is this basic strategy of most of the European movements, that is very different than the strategy that is being pursued here in the United States, is that both superpowers are incapable through negotiations, of reaching any kind of real accommodation that would result in disarmament. And the only way that that can happen is if one takes the first step. So, the European campaigns have been based very heavily on the idea of unilateral or independent initiatives. That their countries can take a certain step to withdraw from their role in the arms race that would put pressure on other governments to follow and to reciprocate. And in fact, excuse me, recently in the United States and the Freeze Campaign, we'd begun to adopt some of that similar strategy. Another component of their work has been to develop nuclear free zones. The city of London, the city of Manchester, are now officially declared by the City Council, as nuclear free. The entire country of Wales is declared a nuclear free zone. And these, in many ways, are symbolic local initiatives, but also at the national and international level, there are some very interesting new developments. In Scandinavia you may have heard about Olaf Palme, the Prime Minister, proposing a nuclear free zone in Scandinavia. I had an opportunity last December to attend a conference in Athens, Greece, where the Athens government is now working with other governments in the Balkans region to create a nuclear free zone in that part of Europe. Another aspect of the European Peace Movements work that is not given much visibility here, is its support for independent peace movements in Eastern Europe, realizing that there needs to be daton, not only between States, but between people. And that perhaps one of the best and most important ways of building daton, and trust, and understanding, and breaking apart the East-West barriers, is for people in the East and West to get to know each other. And especially for those of us in the Western Peace Movements to support our counterparts in the East. There are independent, that is non-state controlled, non-communist party controlled, peace movements in Hungary and East Germany, especially under the auspices of the East German churches, to some extent in Czechoslovakia and also in the Soviet Union. In some cases, these are very small groups and other cases they're large, but very diffused and spontaneous. In some cases they're under tremendous pressure from their own governments. People doing what you and I are doing right now, are in some cases, interrogated, or even put in jail, simply for signing a petition or attending a meeting. But in other cases, it's been incredible, and it's amazing how little of this gets into the Western press here in the United States. It's been incredible what people have been able to do, even in that most repressive kind of environment. And I think, and our European counterparts feel this very strongly, that it's really critical that we in the West voice our support for them, realizing in the systems they live and operate in, they don't have the kind of freedom and mobility that we do, and therefore, it's evermore important that we show and express our support for them. I think the current mood in Europe, and this is true virtually everywhere, is that time is running out and things are getting out of control. The Soviets have said, again, what they're gonna do if the missiles are deployed, is pull out of the Geneva talks, deploy new missiles in Eastern Europe, perhaps off the coast of the United States. And we need to find a way out, and there's very little time to do that... ...for negotiations to take place. And one of the goals of the demonstrations this weekend, in some 200 cities and towns across the United States will be to support that congressional initiative. And in October 25th, the Freeze Campaign is calling for a national calling, for people to call their members of Congress all over the country, urging them to support this legislation. The second initiative that's very important and very new is a proposal that Willy Brandt made when he was in Washington two weeks ago, where he said he urged the United States and Soviet Union, by virtue of a phone call between Reagan and Andropov or somebody at that level to announce an immediate freeze on the testing and deployment of new missiles and delivery systems that can be easily and quickly verified by both sides. That this kind of freeze be put in place immediately, and negotiations take place towards the kind of verification agreement that would be needed to verify a freeze on production. And that as part of this, there would be no deployment in Europe, and the Soviet Union would begin the process of dismantling some of their SS-20 missiles at a steady schedule, pointed at Europe. And this proposal that Brandt made, has generated much support and excitement around Europe. And we're hoping, through newspaper ads and other in ways, in the next several weeks to generate support for it here in the United States. Finally, and this is the longest shot of all, but I think it's an interesting, and perhaps significant, development. Women at Greenham Common who've been camped out outside the military base there, for some two years, are coming to the United States on November 9th to file a lawsuit in the American courts, based on American law, British law and international law to get a restraining order against the United States government, to forbid it from deploying any cruise missiles in Europe. And they have some of the best attorneys in New York City and in Britain working on this appeal, which will be filed in New York City, federal district court on November 9th. On that day, there will be protests at every one of 104 US bases throughout Britain, and they are determined, absolutely determined, to raise this issue in the courts. And some of you may also be aware that there's also a similar court suit pending in Canada, brought by a number of peace groups there to prevent the testing of air-launched cruise missiles. And that's now being considered by the Canadian courts under the new Canadian constitution. So there is a chance, a very slim chance, that at least we can delay the deployments by time on both sides, prevent the confrontation that is about to occur. I think the most important thing to remember, regardless of what happens in the coming weeks and months is that we not become overwhelmed and feel like we have no say, or we have no part, or we have no role in this. The reason why the arms race has been able to continue and accelerate over 35 years, is partly because it is such a huge, overwhelming problem. And it's so easy to feel numb and powerless in the face of it. I think one of the things the Freeze Campaign has done has shown that there's a majority, a majority of American support for stopping the arms race now, as a first step towards reversing it. There's also a majority of public opinion in Europe against escalating the arms race beginning in Europe. We do represent the majority and it's up to us to use our creativity, our hope, our energy, and everything in our power to channel that majority opinion into the kind of effective political action that can prevent the arms race from continuing by both the United States and the Soviet Union. And it's a job that I think is a horrendous job in a way, but I think it can be a very gratifying one, as difficult and as challenging as it may be. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- [Michael] I have some time for questions and discussion.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] It's my understanding that US military personnel have been firing missiles in Europe, can you explain to me how\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Well, I don't know the Genesis of it, all I know is that for as long as US nuclear forces have been in Europe, they've been in the hands of American commanders, that European commanders, military commanders, even at the highest levels, even at the level of civilian government, say Prime Minister Thatcher, do not have the power or capacity to fire the weapons on their soil. On the other hand, an American commander or an American president can order that those weapons be deployed into the countryside and fired, on our say so. I mean, there's a process of consultation. When I was in London recently, there was a lot of debate in the press about this Double Key idea. The fact that Britain might insist in having a role in whether or not missiles deployed in Europe would be fired, and that debate continued and then at some point tapered off. I don't understand myself and I don't know the complexities of the agreement between us. All I know is that since World War II, that has been the case, that those missiles are US missiles, including the ones that are under NATO control, but we maintain a monopoly over their use.\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Right, the French and British systems are outside the NATO framework and they have their own control systems and they are controlled by their own governments and their own military.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] The Germans have no\r\n\r\n- [ Michael] No, the Germans, the French and the British are only the only Western European countries that have their own, as they call it, independent deterrence.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] I have a question, and have a request.\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Sure.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] I don't understand the grounds of these British women are going to file a lawsuit, what is the technicality to help them stop deployment? And the request is, since we, especially in the West, don't get alotta news about what's going on in Europe, and you've just come back from London, tell us what's going on in the peace movement etc.\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Right. Well, I don't know, I'm not an attorney and I don't pretend to know all the legal arguments, but I know that two key things they're trying to raise is under international law, that weapons that represent a first strike capability are in violation of various international accords, that's the first point. The second point is that under the US Constitution threats to health and security and welfare of people are considered a violation of the Constitution. And I think they're also raising the issue that Congress will not have any war powers control over the use of nuclear forces in Europe. That there's no war powers act that allows Congress to say, yes, you can push the button in Germany. And I think that's the other argument that's gonna be raised. That argument has been really well-developed by legal scholars over the last few years. In fact, a number of national church groups a couple of years ago, nearly came very close to filing a suit on those grounds. And two members of Congress so far, and a number of others are gonna be parties in this suit. The suit will be brought by five women from Britain and at least five members of the United States Congress who will specially raise that argument, as members of Congress. In terms of what's going on now in Europe. First of all, there's a lot of activity underway, just preparing for all the various kinds of non-violent protests, blockades, human chains between US and Soviet missions, all of these activities plan. There's also a lot of lobbying going on in some countries, in Germany, Kohl has called for a parliamentary debate on November 21st, which he hopes will provide him a consensus or at least the majority of opinion in favor of deployment, and there's a lot of lobbying going on there. Beyond that the Peace Movement in Europe is doing many of the same things we're doing here. They're having public meetings like this in small churches and trade union halls, going out and doing leafleting at shopping centers, circulating petitions, holding bake sales. I mean, they're doing all the same things that people are doing here, and doing it in many of the same numbers and in many of the same ways. In some ways I think we've learned in the last two years from each other, they have adopted certain techniques that we have perfected here, for example, the idea of a local initiative, where you get a question on the ballot and vote on it, that's been done many places in the United States on the Freeze. That's a whole new idea in Europe. People have never even thought of doing that. In some countries, you can't do it, but in other ways, people are now finding ways of doing it. So we've also had, I think, a certain kind of pollination effect back and forth across the Atlantic. And similarly, this tactic of nuclear free zones in municipal areas that has been spreading out all over Europe, is now picking up support in many places around the United States and Town Councils, City Councils are declaring themselves nuclear free zones. In a way, it's only symbolic and it's only token, but I think politically it makes an important point.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] They have a super-weapon that's gonna...\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Well, on the first point of the question about the Star Wars technology, the new space-based laser weapons and missile defense system, the people that I know in the scientific community who are involved everyday in thinking about these things and developing these things, say they're still a pipe dream that are decades and decades away. One, if they can even be developed, and two, there's a lot of questions about what use they would be if they could be developed, and that they could be very easily defended against, in fact. I think the whole thing is a smoke screen myself. I mean, I think it's worse than a pipe dream, I think it's a smoke screen behind which a lot of other very dangerous new weapons that you and I don't even know anything about, are being developed. For example, there are now small convention alarms, like artillery shells, being developed for use in Europe that have a shell about this big, that can carry either a small nuclear tip warhead or can carry a conventional explosive. They're developing small weapons like that, that can be carried in a knapsack on someone's back. There are all kinds of weapons that are erasing the thin boundary between conventional and nuclear that are not on the drawing boards, they're already being produced. The other part of that is simply that the scientists need something new to work on. They're getting tired of blowing up bombs in the Nevada desert that just go off like all the other bombs they've blown off, and they need new, more sophisticated, as they say technically sweet, projects to work on. And this whole laser space stuff represents, you know, the ultimate in that.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member] I think this year, or next.\r\n\r\n- [Michael] Yeah. I don't think Congress would vote the money. 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testing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=633.35,636.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and deployment of nuclear weapons and missiles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=636.09,638.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that it's a phony argument that we 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freeze","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=648.77,653.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and moving it towards actual reduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=653.11,655.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so it's a very, in some ways complicated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=655.72,658.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I think really significant distinction to be made","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=658.26,660.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between the negotiations 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proposal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=666.67,669.563"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is that clear? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=671.19,673.053"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=674.23,675.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I hope many of you can join us later this evening","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=675.3,677.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and at the events, Mark described next week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=677.69,680.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=680.36,681.461"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience clapping)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=681.461,684.461"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22742/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/742/original/AV203338_Cruise_Pershing_SS20s_arms_control_or_Armageddon_b.vtt?1613498541","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/742/original/AV203338_Cruise_Pershing_SS20s_arms_control_or_Armageddon_b.vtt?1613498541"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22743","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203338_Cruise_Pershing_SS20s_arms_control_or_Armageddon_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738/transcript/22743/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- [Interviewee] For them being able to participate and express their views. I mean, they're in uniform, but they still are democratic citizens and have used express. So there have been examples like that, of European soldiers actually taking part in some of the protests.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] That's a very key question because what we're told here is that every time there's a demonstration in Europe, whether they're opposing US or Soviet missiles or whatever, they're undermining NATO, strength and cohesion, and therefore making it easier for the Soviets to deploy their missiles. I don't think that's true. I think the opposite is true that it's the actual threat of this deployment. If it goes forward, that is gonna be the biggest incentive for the Soviets to escalate their own nuclear buildup. And it's not giving them at this point, any incentive to go in the opposite direction. Reagan has backed the Russians against the wall. Where there they are, there's virtually no way out for them, in a way that they can say phase. And there is no way as anyone knows who's been involved in negotiation of any kind, the way you reach a compromise is you give the other person a way out where they walk away with something. You make a major concession. So they can say phase. At this point, I don't see any way that that kind of compromise can happen. And I think at this point, the Russians have tried to use the peace movements. I don't deny that that's true. They have tried to infiltrate and use them in different ways in Western Europe, but they've been totally rebuffed and have been totally unsuccessful in every attempt. And it's just an outright lie to say that the European peace movements are in any way manipulated or controlled by the Soviet union. It's just not true. Any more than the AMES Reese Group here is controlled by that the KGB or the CIA. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Yeah, the call-in date is the 25th of October. That's next Tuesday. And the legislation has been introduced by representative Sevo S-E-V-O of Minnesota. Who's a member of the subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, and it's being sponsored co-sponsored by Congressmen Ratchford and McKinney from Connecticut. And what it would do is in the 1984 appropriations bill say that \"No funds can be used to transport or deploy Persian to \"or cruise missiles before July, 1984.\" That's the actual language of the amendment. And all I think you need to say is support the Sevo amendment to delay deployment of Persian tool and cruise missiles. There's also a resolution introduced in the House by Congressman Mike, Massachusetts. That's just the sense of the Congress resolution that calls for the general idea of a delay and calling on the Soviet union to reduce missiles. But it doesn't have we're using that as sort of an organizing thing, but it doesn't have the weight that this would have. If this is actually passed by the House of Representatives, we don't know when it will be voted, but probably the first or second week of November. And this call-in campaign is the first attempt to really show that there is, you know, support. The other thing going on this weekend is in a lot of areas where there are demonstrations or protests plan. There are delegations visiting congressional offices, petitions being turned in and other sorts of lobbying efforts going on, also pointing towards this amendment. So we really hope people will make use of every opportunity like that to get the message across. And it's especially important to members of Congress who have been supportive of the freeze. Many of them have said they support the idea of a mutual verifiable, comprehensive freeze, but have waffled in one way or another on the question of the Euro missile deployment. And I think partly it's, Reagan's very effective use of his own propaganda that they can't undercut the negotiations in Geneva, by doing that. What's encouraging is that the summer Congressman Dellums, introduced a resolution calling for a delay that did receive on the second vote about a 100 votes that included many pre-supporters in the house, but there needs to be, I think, a lot more work done with those members of Congress especially, to say the idea of a freeze will be in many ways undermined and the possibilities of getting a comprehensive freeze. If these missiles are deployed. In New York state, we have a particular problem with the New York delegation and the cruise missiles being put on ships off of Staten Island. Earlier, those ships were gonna be based in Boston Harbor and Kennedy and Marquee, and all the most prominent freeze supporters were lobbying to bring the ships in, with cruise missiles because they said it would be good for the Boston economy, and would create jobs, which is true. I mean, it would've created four or 500 civilian jobs and they were put under tremendous pressure by primarily free supporters in Boston and Massachusetts. And finally, I think they were tremendously relieved when the Navy decided to put it in New York instead because it got them off the hook. But now we're on the hook in New York and we have some of the same battles to fight with Senator Moynihan who supports the freeze, but also doesn't see any problem with having cruise missiles in the New York Harbor. And that's the strange thing about politics, that I think is an area that we all have a lot to learn in. The peace movement. Politicians are most responsive and are only responsive to the kind of public pressure that keeps them accountable. And we have the opportunity in this country to produce that kind of public pressure and to hold them accountable. And that's the real power we have in the democratic system. And I think we really got to learn how to use it and not let them off the hook. That's one reason why the arms race has been able to go on for as long as it's, as it had as it has. Politicians can say one thing and do something different and that's got to stop. And we're the ones that have to insist that it does stop.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Yeah. Well basically, Reagan, at this point in his analysis of the European balance, does not include the British and the French forces, which though they're not under NATO control are aimed at the Soviet union. Does not include aircraft and bombers, based in Western Europe that are equipped with nuclear weapons that could be delivered at the Soviet union and does not include our own submarines, like the Poseidon's that are in European waters. And again are targeted on targets in the Soviet union. And when you leave all of those out and you limit it only to the very narrow question of land based missiles, it's like, you know, you're eliminating the majority and looking only at the minority.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] They play, exactly. They play the same game. They count all of the NATO forces on all sides, the British, French, so forth and so on. And then they count their own land-based missiles, which at least in their case, the land-based missiles are the bulk of their missile forest aimed at Europe, but they don't take into account their own submarines, their own aircraft, so forth and so on. So they're get guilty of the same kind of manipulation of the numbers. And in fact, it's very difficult to get an accurate reading, especially because most of the information about Soviet weapons and weapons capabilities is, of course, almost impossible to get and intelligence sources make guesses, but it's all in to some extent, you know, just based on limited information.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Yeah, well, it's a very new proposal. You have to remember, he just made it two weeks ago here in Washington, and then it is a speech he gave in Ohio. So it hasn't been though it was widely reported in the Western European Press, especially in Germany, it didn't receive a lot of attention here. His proposal is that both sides, first announced an immediate freeze on the testing and deployment of new missiles that this kind of a freeze can be easily verified by existing means. And that at that point we began a process of combined negotiations, that is combining the intermediate range missile talks and the strategic missile talks in one set of negotiations. To look at the question of how to verify the other elements of a freeze, like the production of nuclear weapons and that at the end of the year, we would therefore have an agreement on a comprehensive mutual freeze on the testing production and deployment of all nuclear weapons. That while that was going on, as part of that first step, the United States would not deploy any new missiles in Europe. And the Soviets would agree to begin dismantling, substantially their SS20 aimed at Europe. And then the last part that I didn't mention in the proposal is simply that, this freeze then be followed by continuing negotiations for actual reductions. So it's basically a four-part proposal. What we're trying to do in the next two weeks, together with our friends in Europe is collect the endorsement of other Nobel prize winners, prominent scientists, writers, former military people and others on this appeal and publish it in newspapers across Western Europe, and the United States before November 15th, when the Geneva talks are due to recess. And that will be one, just one very public, we hope visible expression of support for Brandt's proposal before the negotiations end. But you have to understand his proposal is not contingent on those negotiations, Brandt maintains. And I think he's right. And William Colby, the former head of the CIA and others have said this as well, that most of the elements of a freeze with the exception of production could be immediately agreed upon and verified by national technical means, already codified in existing arms control agreements. That basically a freeze could put it, be put into effect simply by a phone call. If there was an agreement on both sides, as it X date, we are gonna freeze the further testing and deployment of nuclear weapons and missiles. So that it's a phony argument that we need to have years of negotiations before we can have a freeze, we can have a freeze next week, and then we will need these kinds of negotiations to go further, in making that a comprehensive freeze and moving it towards actual reduction. And so it's a very, in some ways complicated, but I think really significant distinction to be made between the negotiations process, the way it's currently being described and the way that Brandt would envision it being used in his proposal. Is that clear? Okay. Well thank you very much. And I hope many of you can join us later this evening and at the events, Mark described next week. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36623/file/105738#t=0.0,694.59592"}]}]}]}