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evening, I'd like to welcome you to this fourth in a series of lectures on science technology in the future. These lectures have been co-sponsored by the Department of Philosophy, the program in Molecular, Cellular $ Developmental Biology, the Department of Psychology and People Science and Political Science. The program on technology and Previous lectures in this series dealt with the topics of values judgements in science. Models of decision-making in Science and Technology and democracy. This evening's lecture deals with some of the issues raised by recent developments in Genetic Engineering. In a sense all the previous topics in this series are brought into play. When one begins to consider the relationships between Genetic Engineering Technology and the role of science in our society. So this evening's topic seems to fit in culmination of this lecture series that began last fall. Our lecturer this evening is in many ways particularly well-suited to the topic at hand. Professor June Goodfield, who is currently an adjunct professor at Rockefeller University and an associate scientist at the Sloan Kettering Institute for Cancer Research in New York city. Combines the talents of the historian of science with that of the research of a reporter of developments in research science and medical ethics. She is the author of a work on the growth of scientific Physiology which deals with the mechanism vitalism controversy in 19th century Biology and the co-author of three significant works in the history of science: \"The Fabric of the Heavens\", \"The Discovery of Time\" and \"The Architecture of Matter\". She has also made other noteworthy worthy contribution to the History and Philosophy of Biology. In addition, she is the author of the stage of cancer and more recently, a \"Playing God\": \"Genetic Engineering and Manipulation of Life\". She has written on topics in medical ethics and she has also produced a number of science films including one which won a bronze medal advances in 1964. She has also written a novel called \"Courier to Peking\". Professor Goodfield has also been in close contact with the researchers in areas such as immunology and has worked forthcoming on the history of the recombinant DNA debate on the two culture syndrome and on our experiences with research scientists which is called \"the Walk into Science Three Years with a Scientist\". In a curriculum field the professor Goodfield says that one of her main professional goals has been the interpretation of science to a wider public. There are few of any issues which deserve more public attention than those caused by recent developments in genetics. And there are few of any individuals who are better suited to articulate and analyze such issues. It is my pleasure to introduce you to professor Goodfield, and hope you will join us for a reception in her honor in the Regency room immediately after this evening's lecture. Please join me in welcoming professor June Goodfield, right?\r\n\r\n- Well, do I have to, you know, I'm not very big. Do I have to, if I don't pay any attention to those can you hear me at the back of the room? Yes, because I, Yes?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Because if the recorder doesn't mind, I mean I'd really much prefer to pay no attention to those at all. I mean, pointed to me but I can't see over the top. Bob did say that I would be very happy to deal with any questions after this lecture but let me forestall one of them immediately by telling you an anecdote. A drunk fell over in New York city and fractured his right hand. He sued the city for failure to maintain the sidewalk. This is a true story, by the way. He sued the city. So my attorney tells me for failure to maintain the sidewalk, write a poem the first court on hearing that he was drunk drew their own conclusions, which was they came to the conclusion that the city was in no way to blame for the fracture of his right hand. When upon being a man of some tenacity he decided to take the case to a higher court which he did and which he won. And the judgment was, that a drunk man or a drunken person, I have to say I was not like, a drunk man or a drunken person has every right to enjoy a carefully maintained sidewalk and twice as much need as the rest of us. So I think we've dealt with that question. I'm sorry I couldn't come here in the fall. The trouble part about not coming here in the fall was it placed a great deal of distance between me and the title that I somehow managed to agree with Robin Hollinger who is going to be the title of my lecture. There is this gustily period of time between when you're buttonholed in England with a very flattering telegram and asked if you will do it. And your resistance is very low 'cause you're on vacation and you say you will. And then the title comes. And then six months when the moment of truth comes you wonder how on earth you came to agree to this title or perhaps even what indeed does this title mean. And I think probably the last five minutes of a lecture I get run to the formal construction of this title. But at the moment, what I want to talk to you a little bit about, is to raise some questions about the issues that have arisen the kinds of new ethical problems which seem to have arisen or to be arising within science at this time. As Bob said, I did write a book and it was called \"Playing God\". And I think what I perhaps should explain, because it's as good a little text to my forthcoming sermon as anything will do, I perhaps should explain how I came to begin with this title in the first place. 'Cause it's provocative and it arises a great deal of a indeed aggressive antagonism in number of scientists. And I'm so pleased to say that it wasn't my idea. Because when the Asilomar Conference took place, a European Negro biologist in the middle of all the answer was heard to turn to one of the reporters and say, \"Nature does not require to be legislated but playing God does.\" So the scientist actually in a kind of way coined the title himself. Now this is an irony here. This is a great irony. If we reflect on the time and circumstance in 1972, three whatever it was or 79 or 78 which allows that to be said about science. Because when we think back for the moment for the origins of modern science, with the pre-Socratic philosophers in 400 BC, when in Ionia those people set, into circulation for the first time, the general foreman questions which was going to preoccupy science and still indeed does preoccupy science for as it's a bread and butter fundamental question. It's ironic over 2,500 years have passed and we can not talk about playing God. Whereas the epic teachers reflect it. On this fantastic realization just a fantastic realization, that man's mind, the man had the capacity to reach out and grasp, gain an intellectual grasp in the world which he lived. And speaking of this saying all the students that they were cultivating why then should we be afraid? Sorry, I'm quoting. Why then should we be afraid to send a young man out into the world? Knows he not the God within. And when teachers and the Greek philosophers spoke of the God within man, they realized that there was this fantastic part, which as I said had this capacity to reach out. And for them, it was, I'm treating my words very carefully here, For them it is more than, I mean, it wasn't that you were playing God, it just the capacity to do this. The capacity of the command, the understanding, the comprehensiveness that rational thought gave you placed man at a position a little lower than God's. It was a godlike characteristic and it was certainly something not to be feared. And it was certainly something not to be legislated against. It was something to be damn well proud of. It was absolutely magnificent human attribute of the human mind. And therefore I say that 2,500 years later we've swung a whole range course of science. And the very same capacity could be described by one of its own members as playing God and something that perhaps had to be legislated against. And so there is the irony. I may say it's not, this wasn't suddenly precipitated into history. And it's interesting to think that what might've been going to happen, and ignore my syntax and pay attention to what the thought please, what might've been going to happen was already anticipated in the 19th century. If you read the de Goncourt journals, the journals of Jules de Goncourt and his brothers who wrote with a dual kind of French Seminole peeps in the middle of the 19th century within French society. And they went everywhere. And they would entertain dinner everywhere and they saw everybody and they knew everybody and they wrote it all down. It is totally delectable to read. Because you'd go out to dinner with them and you'd see Madam de this to that and you see the great French chemist, Berthollet and you'd meet the great French physiologist, Claude Bernard and you are present at the dinner table conversations. And one day Jules de Goncourt comes back and writes in his diary, and I went up to have dinner tonight with Madam de somebody and I forgot her name and she isn't important and Berthollet the chemist was there and Claude Bernard was there. And during the course of dinner the conversation turned to what would science be doing in the next hundred years. And Berthollet said that he predicted, he prophesied that what physical science would be doing in the next a hundred years would be that men would have such a command of the knowledge of physical chemical processes that they could turn the sun on and off at will. And Claude Bernard said, well, so far as he was concerned he believed that within 100 years men would have such a command of the processes of life that they will be able to recreate it in a test tube as their choice. And de Goncourt puts this note in this journal and says, And I said in the conversation at that point and believe me the moment that happens, God will come down from on high and say, as the Saloon keeper says at the end of the evening \"Time gentlemen, please.\" And it's incredible that people even as early back as in the century were able to anticipate the kind of problems and paradoxes that might arise if your intellectual grasp and your intellectual understanding when one step on to manipulation of things that perhaps, not perhaps we shouldn't do, but perhaps we couldn't conceive how we can handle them if we did them. So of course, this brings me straight into the technique of what we call recombinant DNA. Into the period of the advent of that new technique wildly exciting for scientists a great technical Bonanza, which enables them to do things they didn't think they were going to be able to do. And for many of us many people perplexing for some people indeed fearsome. And I had really no idea, Bob, if you'd give me a profile of the audience, I have no idea of my audience really. So let me quickly run quite through the technique of recombinant DNA quickly for those of you who might not know what it is. It really is simply the new device, the new technology, which enables scientists to splice the genetic material from one organism with that of another. Nature is recombining genetic material all the time. Sexual intercourse and the egg that follows is one great recombination act. And it did look at a delectable moment to the Asilomar Conference that the NIH were going to bar that under the guidelines. They got run that one a lot. But if you consider that the genetic material of any organism, literally specifies the instructions. Blue hair is coded on this bit of tape. I mean, it just really is like having a cassette of tape in every cell of the body where the nuclei is still there which is arranged, not like a little cassette of material with words, but in fact is arranged in a very complicated spiral staircase and with the coded instructions for the proteins so that cell is going to make can be read off by a sequence of building blocks along that material. Now, suppose in the middle of this, I know somebody is recording me. And if you want to understand recombinant DNA all you have to understand is the principle of doctoring tapes. And who in these post-Watergate days does not understand the principle of doctoring tapes? It is all very, very easy. Suppose this moment in this tape recording, I say this is the lousiest university, I'm sorry. I say this is the finest university I've been ever been in. And that nice gentleman in the yellow wine shirt over there after the lecture will scan along the tape, he will then take a pair of scissors. He would cut out the word lousiest. He will go until he finds the word best. He will splice the one into the other. And there we have a perfect tape, a nice recording of all the nice things I'm supposed to be saying now. The principle of recombinant DNA is exactly the same. Scientists can spread out by various beautiful delectable alchemical means, can spread out the tape from a cell. They can scan along. I'm simplifying it a little bit. They can scan along until they find a particular gene in which they're interested in. For instance, the gene making human insulin. They have discovered the existence of things called restriction enzymes which are exactly like biological scissors, they can. And the glariest thing about the restriction enzymes is the covenanted bonus for the scientist was this. But one pair of restriction enzymes cutting one piece of DNA will make DNA which will stick to another piece of DNA provided it's being cut by the same restriction enzyme. So if you have a piece of human genetic engineering somewhere deep in the half of that is the gene insulin you split the thing up, you scan along until you find the gene insulin and you take, cut repair there and you cut out the gene for insulin. Meantime, back here you've got a very simple organism, indeed, a plasma which is a kind of little virus that infects bacteria and its DNA is not complicated at all. It's just like a little circle. So you'll cut it with the same restriction enzyme and you'll make a hole in it. And as you cut these two bits with the same restriction enzyme, the two ends are going to stick together and then you start doctoring the tapes. And you lift out the gene for human insulin and you splice it very nicely leave it here. And that is the recombinant bit of the story. You'll have recombined the genetic human gene for insulin into the DNA of a virus. And then you send that to, I don't know, can't remember what bacteria look like, and you send that, you get that to infect a bacteria. And the idea is that every time the bacteria divides, it will know, so too this mode divide and every time they pass mode divide is so too for the gene for human insulin. And you all know I'm sure, how often bacteria divide millions of them within in 24 hours. And the hope is by doing this we will make the bacteria, being factory for us, churning out as much human insulin as we want provided the bacteria obey the instruction and obeying instructions may be a little tactical wrinkle that scientists will get around somehow. Now that is basically the technique of recombinant DNA. You have made, you have, many are vital, you've done a recombination and you've produced a living molecule which honestly to the best of my knowledge, and I think to the best of a lot of scientists' knowledge have not been made before. It has a lot of great advantages because what scientists can now do, if this is the whole of the DNA, I mean, and before all this, what they were having to do was to try to study this gene and they couldn't get it out freely and they had to make volumes and volumes of DNA in order to extract this thing by biochemical means. And it was never, I mean, it was just horrendously difficult. Now it's as if they can sit and say. As if somebody said to me, go to time square and find a man with a brown jacket and spectacles and golf hat . And they got very precisely and they can take out that gene very neatly and they can study that gene, and that effects alone. And so they do see that not only will this be technologically helpful because it can make, the bacteria, make things for us that we didn't have before but it also it is a technique that enables us to isolate the genes so precisely and so clearly that we can study it and it alone very nicely. And that from the intellectual point of view is what they wanted. So is precisely what they would like to do. And clearly you know, there's, so what there's nothing wrong about that. There's a great deal of justification for wanting to use this technology. And this is basically what it is. It is a technology first and foremost, to use this technology so that you can isolate the genes that you're interested in and study them. And so that you can pick them up and eventually perhaps make them make things for us. So you will have a whole range of advantages to recombinant DNA, which go from the possibility of increasing our fundamental knowledge about the way genes work, the way cells develop, the way cancer genes work, if we can isolate those, to such things as can be, such technical payoff as can be. And in fact it was predicted by the Nobel Laureate David Baltimore talking two years ago to a forum on this in Washington National Academy. Because he predicted the possibly within five years and probably not later than 10, it would be possible to take a child that had hemophilia. That is a child that has a defective gene so that the blood clotting factor is missing. And when that child is identified as a very small baby as having hemophilia, potential for hemophilia of taking out the bone marrow, getting the correct gene, splicing it in by this virus technique into a virus which would then go in and infect the bone marrow cells of that child thus restoring the normal genetic property. Putting the bone marrow transplant in the bone marrow cells back into the child, and because it's his own bone marrow there's no problem about immunological rejection. And then for the life of the child, not for the children, but for the life of the child, he has repaired a genetic defect by recombinant DNA. And in that kind of way, you could engineer lifeforms. Now, I don't think I'd want to go through, I mean you can come at me later if you want me to, but I don't think I need to go through. And that was the good side of the story. And now for the bad news. And the bad news run from all the problems about would there by the use of the bacteria and the infect the human gut, by doing these recombinant molecules and giving dying new properties, could you not advertently or inadvertently set off new series epidemics from the population which is the thing that really put the wind up Boston. And whether in fact you could be giving cancer forming properties to molecules into viruses and therefore to bacteria that you didn't have them before. I mean, you can go and set yourself in these dangers and some of them indeed are real enough but I don't want it at this point to go through them. But what I really want to do is to raise the question basically why was there basically all the fuss? Why the label of playing God? Why did this come to apply in a situation? Where on the face of it, all the scientists wanted to do was to extend that understanding and perhaps produce a few nice substances for us on the same way at the same time. And I want to take this question of why was there all the fuss? At two stages and also at two kinds of levels. One is a technical one, and the other is a humanistic one. And this is going to bring in questions of values. And perhaps I think I might manage to demonstrate how in fact, these two are interrelated. Because of course what this is doing is it raising and enhancing our capacity to influence events and manipulate the world around us. Erwin Chargaff's latest book, \"Heraclitean Fire\" which his own autobiography said, \"When I was a scientist, we would contend in just understanding.\" And for him the new ambiance in science, is the ambience which not only wants to extend this to really needing to explain it, but explaining it in order to manipulate it. And of course what recombinant DNA does promise us amongst other things, is the possibility of doing genetic manipulations across species in a way that there had never been done before. I mean, if I give the example of splicing the duck with the orange, this is ludicrous but this is what it is possible. I mean, this is in theory, what you can do. You can make a DNA recombinant of DNA from a duck with DNA from an orange and you can take it down to malls where I've just had a lovely dinner. And moreover, what else this technology does for us is to allow us to do the kind of genetic manipulations, not only across species, but quicker and faster and more varied even more bizarre than we've done before. And the technical fuss the one technical fuss, of course, why there has been the fuss are the reasons why Asilomar Conference was called in the first place by the scientists. Because they were working at the boundaries of two kinds of ignorance. Research scientists always work at the boundaries of ignorance anyway, but there was an extra kind. The first boundary of ignorance was the intellectual one. They all had certain questions they wanted to answer and they didn't quite know how to go about answering. The second kind of boundary of ignorance which was rather new for biological science is that they just didn't know how safe, what they were doing was and whether in fact there was likely to be a kind of immediate or gross environmental impact. And again, as you know, they don't put this, I think in a rather remarkable way by moratorium, by then calling a conference and certainly by proscribing totally certain kinds of genetic experiments. Which means that you may not except now under the most rigid conditions splice pathogenetic properties into this. You may not except under the most. I did think you may or may at all, but some scientists would correct me, you may not confer the property of antibiotic resistance onto an organism that hasn't got it. There are a number of experiments, which still even now are forbidden. But this is really not the problem. The problem is that it is undoubtedly the first step to a kind of human genetic engineering of which the example I've given of hemophilia is just one of the first steps. And we have to face it. We absolutely have to face it that people have gut reactions to this. Whether these are rational reactions or whether they are not in a kind of way, it doesn't matter. They have strong gut reactions to it. And I have gut reactions to this too. To the extent that when I wrote my book, \"Playing God\", I set myself as an exercise to try to find a group of people somewhere in the world on whom I would be glad if we could do Genetic Engineering. And I mean, you know, I have to gut reaction and I found them in a little village in the North San Miguel and these doors and their descendants are in San Francisco, Huntington Falls river side. I'll just tell you this very quickly. In the middle of the last century, many of these orients came over and settled in America. Another American 17 years old, it wasn't an eminently healthy place to live. But a fishermen, a sailor called the Shadow came over and settled in San Francisco. And his family grew up. Another man called Joseph came over and settled over on the East coast. And they had a genetic disease a genetic defect in the genes, recessive gene which makes having children a nasty kind of genetic roulette. Generally it's the women who hunted and the women would die by the age of 50. It manifests itself very much like Huntington's carrier by kind of neurological loss. You start to stumble, you look as if you're drunk, and then gradually you lose all kinds of control and you die. But the problem is you don't know whether you've got it until after you've had the children. In other words, it doesn't begin to manifest itself until after you are 35. And so having kids is a kind of genetic roulette. You can not tell beforehand. And if all those kinds of groups these are the people, one of few people and we think he came into the Azores via eugonism in the 14th century. But those are the kind of people where having the very act of having children such a monstrous roulette game. One would think that of all these kinds of things, I mean one would be very grateful if science could do something to these people. And they can't even be identified in usual at the moment. But nevertheless we do ,a lot of us, do have gut reactions to genetic engineering. And the thing to do is to try to lay out and to try to find out what are our gut reactions against and whether these gut reactions, are reasonable gut reactions or unreasonable gut reactions. If you could relate these two things together. Now, of course, man has been doing genetic engineering for a very long time it is nothing new in our history. Ever since the advent of Agriculture and the development of cereal crops and the development of the selective breeding of animals to help our agriculture. We have been doing genetic engineering for a very, very long time. And of course the problem comes in now, because of course what happened is that is there is the possibility of doing genetic engineering Not on men being the ducks and the dogs and the cereals but on us and this makes situation or so it appears rather different. This really makes the thing rather different. Where, and this is what's new in 1978 or 1972, where we can modify the environment or people or where we can offer a new technique or the possibility of a technique where the manipulation this is going to impinge on our autonomy or on our humaneness or on our conception of life living or where it is going to give the part of that to somebody else who isn't ourselves. Then, However much science it might like to think we can and might wish we could do so. And we never actually could even in history however much science claimed that we did. And when conflicts do arise it forces us to raise a very old question, but in a new setting namely, where ultimately is the allegiance of this profession going to lie? And where or whatever else we give this question to the allegiance of the profession. where is it going to lie. We must ask whether that question must in fact not be asked again and again and again as new considerations arise through history. And basically I see one of the great questions at the heart of this issue is the questions of morality of the profession and morality of all profession and whether ultimately a professional's allegiance is entitled to be to the perpetuation and to the internal morals of the profession or whether the time does not very often come when they have to not only take a transcendental aim for what they do, but consider why does society in what they in fact are doing. Now, again I'm going to have to compress a little 19th century history. If you study, W.J Reader's book, \"The Rise of the Professional Men\". Or if you look at the way of the history of the profession, you will find that as the professions evolved in earliest 20th century, one thing marked out the scientific profession from all the others. And there's that historical reason how this happened. I mean, no particular blame or praise to be given to anyone as to how this came to happen, but what can we find is as the professions evolved, almost all other professions with the exception of the scientific profession had two accepted normal behavior. Their own Professional standards and stages to which they described but also they had at the same time, a real sense of moral responsibility towards society and of protecting society against the Bazaar or the cracks or the men and women within the profession who might take advantage of them. They had, in fact the notion of accountability. Direct accountability to society was the price they paid for their professional privileges. And somehow scientists missed it out. And as I say there's great historical reasons for this. The notion of accountability of a scientific profession to society. This notion is not more than a quarter of a century old and how it just come in and why it's coming at this time is again another question which would make a very good PhD thesis. It has got something to do with the fact that we now pay much more for it, which has also got something to do with the fact that more than, it's a paradox of biological science you see that the more successful it's getting, the more capable they are of doing with living forms precisely what they will, the paradox is the more problems it generates for itself. vis-a-vis society who might indeed not wish these things to be done at all. Now, the 19th century was one thing. Galileo was one thing. Lysenko was one thing. And so whenever any scientist says to me, \"Oh well, if you've tried to put a stopper on what we're doing you'll just behave like you're in opposition or you're just behaving like the Scopes Trial, you know, you're et cetera, et cetera.\" I reject that analogy forcefully because history does not stand still. We are in a new situation. Science is giving us new pass and new possibilities which did not actually face Galileo or Lysenko or Scopes. And therefore the analogy's only part valid. There's marvelous incredibly funny play by Tom Stoppard called \"Jumpers\" in which there is a, it's all about a philosopher who is under the illusion that he, you know he's not having any new students G Moore. because he has a wife called Dotty And he does nothing but nothing to discipline the students about the fact that actually he is G Moore, he just have to stay there. Anyway the play is a marvelous play 'cause he's presented in his paper for the annual philosophical Congress. Most of the play consistently is him trying to rewrite this paper to the secretary while unfortunately the principal of a university another one that professor is murdered. And his body is found in a plastic bag in the park and the principal G Moore is under suspect. And into this hot house of academic ideas with concepts flying a lot like drops of rain and syllogism and I mean all those lovely things that philosophers love to have I just sort of abandoned from here comes up for old cop and inspector of peace whose job it is to find out who done it. I mean, its simple, who killed the other professor? And he goes around interviewing everybody and interviews G Moore. And G Moore immediately takes off about murder and death and killing and not what you send to an enormous long spiel about how under certain circumstances and under certain possibilities thought he himself would of course never say that it was all right to kill a man. Nevertheless, under certain circumstances what perhaps could make a justifiable argument to say that it was not indeed wrong that he should die. And off he goes, you can just imagine that. I mean he provided this himself. And this blows the professor's mind. I mean, the state of mind, , let me get the entire picture. Let me see if I got this straight. You are certain to kill a man and on the whole you would not say that it is right to choose to murder somebody. Nevertheless, you would argue that uncertain times in certain conditions it might not indeed be wrong to kill them. And more oh yes, you got it exactly. You see, as Albert Einstein said in ancient Greece. And the professor said, \" But we're not here in ancient bloody classical Greece.\" And this is true about present day science. We are not in ancient bloody classical Galilei. We are not in ancient, you know I need to go over these. We're not in the time of Darwin, we are not in the time of Lysenko. And every time when the science produces us or brings us further, one step further into our intellectual understanding and our intellectual knowledge or what it can do, we are forced to rethink afresh every time. Just what the problems are, just what are the value problems it might raise, just what it is possible and what we cannot do and what perhaps we might do. And the problem is most of us, and this includes me. would love to have a rubric or an edict which says, in all kinds of historical situations, this hose and this hose and this hose, but actually we have to sit down and work it out a fresh each time. And that is what is in fact being alive. So, when Nolan Zeigler of Rockefeller university gave the most agonized acred cor about recombinant DNA, And he smote his ground and said, \" How did we get into this horrible mess? When all we did at Summa was to be terribly moral and try you know, how did we get into this mess? And why should we be moral at all? When as a result of all this, we've had mel-volution. We've had everybody, we tried to be good you know, nice. Why should we go on doing this? All we got is total misunderstanding.\" And of course the setup, the terribly sad thing is that you have to say by virtue of your commitment, you have to be moral. You have to be moral as scientists by virtue of your commitment. And being moral as a scientist, I want to argue now in the 20th century does not mean only not cheating on your experiments. I think being moral as a scientist in the 20th century with the new pass that are yours to combine with the new possibilities as yours as command is not only explaining to society what you are doing and bringing society along with you, but also questioning not so much question your own motives but seeing very carefully why you are doing what you are doing and asking to yourselves includes interest is it. Now there is a new paradox. There is a new difficulty. If it's so long it was a totally unique event in the history of science so true is the present situation where as I repeat the possibilities of doing human, genetic engineering, testing your babies all the things you like to mention are not in themselves bad. I am not and I mean, I feel at this stage I have to make a lot of things very clear to you use the other phrase that techniques we are used to. Let me make one thing very clear. I'm not anti-intellectual. I'm not anti-scientific. I'm not anti-anything. I'm for knowledge I'm for all these things but it may be that we are beginning to get to a point with this where just, I don't know, where just doing something for its own intellectual sake is by itself not quite good enough, by itself its not quite good enough. Now science has always had a deep moral component within it. Science is one of the most moral and critical activities I know. It's more, both in the end to be achieved, which was a transcendental end which was understanding for its own sake. It was moral too, by virtue of the ethic by which that aim would be achieved. And that moral provided a mode which stamped out as we know a certain quality of person or to change the metaphor, those morals produced laid down the bond reserve the niche into which certain people fit in. And your style giving the first annual Jacob Aronofsky lecture calling with a title \"Has Truth a Future Identify People\". Identified the people who were absorbed by attraction. Who were captured, who were enslaved by the notion of conceptual of thought, who were in fact addicted to this. The people, these people have as Steiner said, \"A passionate criticism which has no reason but its own and a beauty of its own.\" People who are attracted to the sharp edge of beauty. And that's what we call a difficulty. Obsession is one feature. The predatory nature of the quest is another feature. And the hunting detective instinct is yet a third. These people combine the attitudes and attributes of Sherlock Holmes with those artists and the greatest possible creative imagination in their capacity to think up possible worlds as mirrors of which the world may be. They are the visionaries of our cathedrals of the mind that mirror and glorify the world in which they represent. And society has always tacitly responded to this. It's deep in our cultural inheritance. We believe in Western society and the intrinsic value of truth of those activities that lead to understanding rather than a big bad balance. And we know, and we appreciate, and we understand in society the beneficial consequences, indeed we have always accepted the imperative quote. \"The truth shall make you free\" as a self-evident and a crucial element, which has in fact, in the past united humanistic and scientific endeavor. And this deep rooted assumption explained why some of the consequences of the recombinant DNA debate and some of the consequences of the new biology seemed always so shattering. It is for that afterwards the truth shall make you free, appears now to be owned under a challenge. And if you know what I want to go on to say, I think it is rather piquant that the lawyers who attended the scientists in the Asylmar advise them to argue for recombinant DNA on the grounds of its value as a pure cultural activity, without any reference whatever to the technological benefits that it could bring. If you read, If you listen to the tapes of their Asilomar Conference, you'll see that the lawyers ran this line the entire time. I didn't think they did so partly because of course the benefits as well as the dangers of recombinant DNA technology where at that time very unethical, but they also did so I think, because they felt that scientists can no longer take responsibility for the good use to which science is put. Well abrogating responsibility for the bad news to which science has put. There has been in the past a remarkable speed of scientists. coming forward to say how good science is combined with a remarkable scenarios or rather standing still when saying, well, of course, yes it is put to bad ends but it's not being our fault. But also I think the lawyers either did this, because I think that actually it is a cogent argument. It is an argument to which people have in fact always responded. That's the truth shall make you free, that transcendental values are values which in fact distinguish men from the animals, which in fact are worth holding onto. And of course there has always been the counter attacks against science throughout history. What Steiner has called the laughter against babies, the vengeance on arguing argument. We have the people who will argue that only the truth comes from illumination not by rational acts. People who have always argued that the truth comes from divine revelation. People who've said really whether it's been from Gerta or from Blake onwards that scientists in their analysis destroy the beauty et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And even now the most subtle attackable, the most subtle attack on rationality I think has come when those people who've argued, and I believe Mark Cruz is one of them, that even rationality has never disinterested. That logic itself is a weapon in the class struggle. I no fact is ever value free. And so far it isn't the fact that the truth shall make you free. In fact, the truth as promulgated in Western society, if indeed it is true shall in fact make you slaves. And added to that We have some new attacks. We have the ones that are began in forced by the Luddites of the social costs of technology, are greater than the benefits and is the scale of our technology grows. So in fact, the balance begins to shift. That the technology is bringing us changes in our lifestyle, stresses, all kinds of things. I mean, I think you know all this backwards that really in the end when you add it up, it was worth it so shrugged the whole level up. And what is left is a situation in which what happens is that we really find our selves, according to these, deep in the dark night of the soul. We really aren't truly alone. It doesn't matter what the implication of the new biology is. Whether it's problems of life or death or individual or social good or cloning or surrogate motherhood or genetic engineering, the race for insight is leading us this argue into a moral ambush between certain categories of truth and our own hope of individual justice and our own capacity to influence our own events. All this was summed up for me, I guess, best of all by the book critic of the New York times, John Lithgow. When he wrote in a dress actually to the New York Academy of Sciences, the problem is that science has steadily reduced the number of things for which God can be held accountable and as ping the rat for most of what is wrong on man. The objectivity of science in many people's eyes has become the enemy of man. Science has not only failed to save our souls, but worse. It has caused us to lose them in the first place. And so the guilt must be projected and it is back on science. And you know on happiness, we in the humanities come to believe that the end of all the scientists knowledge is manipulation. And at the end of all the scientists interest is manipulation for his own particular end, not ours in society. And so we in the humanities, revenge ourselves on this outrageous complacency by writing novels or making movies in which scientists perform badly in bed just like psychoanalysts. Now, as Leonard says, \"The total reaction of science is nonsense, it's dangerous. It populates the world full of existential shrieks.\" And it's not an adequate nor sensible to resolve the dilemma is of a new biology by losing our nerve and saying a way with all sides. It is neither logical or sensible by dividing it up and saying let's have scientists and doctors on the one hand look after our health and let humanist take all the political decisions. Let's take knowledge from the one and values from the other and let the political institutions somewhere in between mediate. Because of course we need knowledge and values from both. And I invite some of you here tonight to think what is the knowledge did we could usefully use and obtain from the humanities in our present problems and what are the values which we can only usefully use and take from the sciences and apply to just switch to the mirror image. But basically I think, the problem as Steiner has specified it, and is a problem as I see it. In the last resort, and I honestly do not know the answer to this question. I do not. In the last resort, I'll be going towards a situation where truth matters more than men. Could we envisage a situation for instance, where a scientist's desire to understand in deep detail exactly what goes on in gestation and let's suppose he can grow a child in a test tube right through full term. Are we likely then to be in a situation where his interest in finding out, modulates, mitigates his concern for that child as a child. Albert Shamon wrote a book called the \"New Genesis\" and he included many scientists as he could we're trying to do just that. And one of them said, he wanted to be anonymous, you know I'm not going to do this the first time 10th time, 20th time. But if I can grow a baby in a test tube up to full term, I'm going to do it. If we grow hormonal contact between mother and child I bare that. I mean, I've lost a child by miscarriage and I know what I'm talking about. One is programmed for the bond, which I think would be the answer. And it's been interesting to contemplate. If a child as a result of this kind of experiment comes out just a child sometimes does in nature defective in some way what is the scientist's obligation towards the child that he may have stopped? What do he feel the same bond as he does for his own child? And if so surely, or if so, whose child is it? In other words if, could we envisage, can we get into war out of situations where the disinterest search for understanding is being achieved at the expense of certain attitudes and values which up to now we have considered to be very important and uniquely human. Well man's activities raised this question, didn't they? And man alone can answer it. Man, human beings that is. I don't think sexist must compromise with it. Because the capacity of man to search for truth and for understanding of the world, is as fundamental to man as any other drives of love and sex and hunger and all this. Man is the very possibility of doing science at all. But we are in this very, very new and very very perplexing situation where some of the things we may want to do in our search for knowledge and understanding may impinge on the autonomy of people, other people, and of individuals like a small child who are unable to speak for themselves. So where do we go from here? 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