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crop?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41085/file/112930#t=2813.76,2815.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41085/file/112930/transcript/26201/annotation/957","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this forest, the number one species are 174.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41085/file/112930#t=2815.44,2818.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41085/file/112930/transcript/26201/annotation/958","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And number two and number 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Tonight, the speaker is Dr. Frank Wadsworth. Dr. Wadsworth earned his master's degree from the University of Michigan in 1937, working on succession in Central Alaska. He then decided, I guess, that Alaska was too cold for him to continue for a PhD, so he worked on forest management in the Yunque Mountains in Puerto Rico, while earning a PhD from Michigan as well. He has worked for the Forest Service for more than 50 years. First, in Arizona, and since 1942, in the Tropical Forest Experiment Station in Puerto Rico. He was the director of the Institute of the Tropical Forestry for 20 years. And now he holds the position of research forester. He has been involved with teaching graduate level courses in Venezuela, as well as many short courses on tropical forestry in Puerto Rico. He has written about 90 technical articles in forestry, has been in more than 20 international tropical forestry consultancies, and participated in several scientific themes for the United Nations' FAO Forestry Commission. Since 1979, he has been the editor of the International Society of Tropical Foresters and is on the editorial board of the New Forest. Tonight, he will be speaking on our role in saving the tropical forest. Please, let's welcome Dr. Wadsworth.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Edgar. I'm very happy to be here. I've never been at Iowa State before. I used to work in the Shelter Belt in Nebraska. And since my home was in Chicago at that time, I zigzagged back and forth through here when the corn was knee-high. It was a beautiful place to see. The subject is a huge one. And anybody who tries to cover it is doing a lot of things that are in the realm of guesswork and hunches. Everybody who has been in the tropics has a different impression. Usually from a fragment of knowledge sometimes gained in the city, or a cocktail party, or somewhere. And so I will try to limit things, my comments, to what I feel most sure of. You're gonna see lots of opinion in it, that's really what makes the world go round. First, I'd like to say that we, and I speak of you, all of us, need a role in saving the tropical forests. I suspect many of you are here because you accept that. Unlike in the temperate zone, most of the soils, the productive soils of the tropics, are forest products. The soil would've been in the sea long since, had it not been for forests in the past. Most of the usable water in the tropics is a forest product. Just go to any of the large cities and find out where their water comes from, they go long distances to get to forested areas. Most of the cooking fuel in the tropics comes from forests and there's no sustainable alternative. In summary, it's the forests that have made the tropics habitable for more than 2 billion people. And yet, despite this, 40% of the tropical forest had been cleared and deforestation continues at a rate of 1% a year, more or less. And the losses resulting from this deforestation are no mystery, neither to us, nor to the people in the tropics. Soil productivity declines rapidly. The lands are abandoned. Streams and rivers are sedimented. The Rio Cauca in Columbia used to be navigable 60 kilometers up, now it's not. There's a railroad been built alongside of it. Decline in the quality of surface water is everywhere, long pipelines to every city. And if you drink it, you know what I'm talking about. Accentuated flooding, the loss of irrigation, the best lands in the tropics for food. The irrigation systems inundated, lost. A major food source is hard to recover. Decline in wood accessibility and in quality. If you want mahogany furniture, you pay. A loss of employment in wood processing, many countries have already forgotten that this existed. And there are a few places in the tropics where fuel wood is as expensive as food, and experiments are in progress to raise kind of beans you don't have to cook, just to save fuel. As might be expected, we don't read about this, but this leads to human misery. It's a part of the environment that has deteriorated so much, that most of the people not only are short of food and other things that we like, but their life is in misery. Women looking for wood for two days, burning substitutes, some of them fertilizer that they would put on their crops. These problems have led in Africa to widespread migrations. Nobody says it's because of a lack of wood, but it's often one of the major causes. The Bedouins, in the north part of West Africa, receive fuel wood hauled 400 miles, because they don't like charcoal. When forests provide your shelter, your food, and your water, you go where they are, and you move away from where they are. This leads to political strife, and here we come in. Political strife among the governments of the Third World, and we know about it now, produces international repercussions, and somehow the United States can't stay out of it. We all may have our opinions as to whether we should or not, but we don't seem to be very good at it, and so it comes home to roost. And this means a complete circle from the loss of the tropical forest to you and me. Thus, saving the tropical forest may mean saving ourselves. The solution of these problems, right at the heart of it, is what we stand for in forestry. A start has been made in tropical forestry. You can read now that there's nothing known about it. Nobody knows how to manage the forest. Nobody's ever done it. We're starting with untrodden snow, so to speak. It's not true. There's more than a century of progress in tropical forestry. Most of it in the other hemisphere, and much of it very ingenious. It's involved protection. It's involved reforestation, plantation management, and the management of natural forests. Past production concentrated on luxury timbers for export. I guess we all know why. It was colonial. It was being done for the colonial powers. The British wanted teak, everybody else wanted mahogany, or some other specialist wood from West Africa. And those were the things they tried to produce. And they had troubles. They had troubles because they were very particular about which species they raised. And they learned what they could about them, but the forests were full of other things and they had all kinds of problems with regeneration and growth rates. There are today more forestry schools, as many as 26 in Brazil alone, more government forestry agencies, more institutions of forestry research, more declared forest reserves, and foresters and forestry technicians than ever before. There is also extra tropical preoccupation with the future of tropical forests. Unprecedented by multilateral, bilateral, national governmental, non-governmental, agencies offering millions of dollars in assistance toward this end. The so-called Tropical Forest Action Plan calls for $8 billion between now and the end of the century, supposedly to combat deforestation. Yet, the financial resources in all countries inadequately support protection and management of the forest, or even career opportunities for people, like you and me, in the field of forestry. Exploitation of the remaining forests continues, generally with no plans or provision to control, or protect, or assure future forest productivity or even survival. Only some 3% of the forest of the tropics are believed to be under a form of management that promises a future cut. Less than 1% of the lands deforested have been replanted. Thus, the task looks pretty big. The profession of forestry in the tropics faces problems not all unique to the tropics, but which in scale and complexity, dwarf those faced by Pinchot and other leaders in the temperate zone. A forest area six times that of the United States is involved. Forest diversity challenges simple management systems. The Caribbean National Forest in Puerto Rico, the smallest almost, 28,000 acres, has more tree species on it than all of the national forests combined. Exposure by the foresters and the forest to unrestrained pressure for an unsustainable agriculture. This is one of the biggest problems, of lack of coordination with a agronomy. Agroforestry, in many places, is but a word. The agronomists, either don't believe in it, they don't understand it, and in no way do they push it. It's us, the foresters. And until agronomy climbs aboard, carries the flag, we're gonna have real troubles in getting somewhere in agroforestry. There's need in the tropics for integration between agriculture and forestry. National policies generally disregard the nonfinancial values of forests. It's not unique to the tropics, but it's crucial, because in many places, the social values far transcend the financial value of the forest. Then we have something we all know here too, criticism from environmental interests on what foresters do and what is called forestry. There is in the tropics, the same confusion we know between preservation and conservation. There is an assumption in the tropics that primary forests can somehow be sustained and still yield timber. There is a consideration of the harvest of mature trees as high grading. There's ridicule of the principle of multiple use as unsafe in the hands of foresters. There's a lack of tranquil fora, or exposure of facts and resolution of differences, some of this is familiar to all of us. Recent research emphasis is on problems of little, immediate utility to solve urgent management problems. Global warming, we're worried about it. We're told that in 2030, we're gonna feel it, but the people in the tropics won't. They will have lost food, fuel, and their forests, they'll have no water. They won't be there by then. We have to do something first if we're going to give them the lack of pleasure that comes with global warming. Those problems are far more critical. Then we have, as we have here in the United States, deficiencies within the profession in dealing with people instead of trees. An assumption that social and political problems are somebody else's. This is a common comment by foresters in the tropics. This then is the lion's den into which forestry students who may come for part of their education to institutions, such as this one, are thrown promptly on their return home. Technical challenges abound. If you're interested in the technical side of forestry, the tropics has much to offer. The big need is to prove the forests are valued. I pointed out at the beginning, they're terribly valuable. They're crucial to the survival, and yet we have to prove their value. And people put values on them that are not the things that are most important, \"But is there some wood you can cut out?\" That's the value that people think of. We must somehow learn to establish these other values in the minds of everybody. We must learn how to work together with multiple uses so that water preserves as many forests as timber. My personal belief is that the forest on the flatlands are doomed. They're going into agriculture whether it's permanent or temporary. It's the forest on the hills that bring water. It will be saved and not because of the timber, but because of the water. We're gonna need the water for the people. We've got to marry water and timber in our management. We must learn more about fauna. I came back yesterday for a meeting in Mexico of two weeks, which we studied investigation practices for silviculture. And the resolutions of the group, 25 graduate foresters, said nothing about fauna. And Mexico needs to study its fauna. It needs to control its fauna. Another thing that's come over recently and people are shouting about it a little bit is ecotourism. I'm not sure how far it's gonna go, how big it's gonna be, but it's one of those things that adds a dimension to the tropical forest that might get the temperate zone concerned. We are concerned about the giraffes in Africa. Why wouldn't we be concerned by seeing macaws and other animals, monkeys, howlers, in the tropical forest? It's never been tried. You go up a river in a canoe, it's an experience you never forget, if you come back. One of the things that's of particular interest of mine is secondary forests. Secondary forests, as I define them, and not everybody else does this, are two types. One is the forest has been cut over and never cleared, so it comes up as kind of second growth as we know it. And the other is the volunteer forest, after clearing burning, raising, whatever's done to it. The two converge in time, the same species come together because they're the secondary species. And so I have trouble with keeping them separate and see no reason to do so. These secondary forests, unlike the primary forests are not declining in area. Because as the primary forests get cut, you get more secondary forests. And as agriculture abandons more land, you get more secondary forests. So they're holding their own quite well. And they're almost an extent as large as the primary forests. In a great many countries, they're the only thing left. And so the secondary forest is what the forester should learn to work with and make grow. Secondary forests have been thought of as worthless. They don't have the same species as the primary forests. The old, hard timbers that we use for construction, the ones that resist termites and decay, trees are small, and they're normally thought of as something to cut down and farm. Actually, if one thinks clearly, this is not the picture you see. In the future, we're not gonna have mahogany, we're not gonna have teak, at least it's not gonna be cheap. And there are a lot of other woods we can use that we're not using. Meaning that if you look at the future market, many of the woods we today discard will have use. And if you go into these secondary forests looking for them, as well as the mahoganies, you get a surprise. The birds and bats have been busy and they're there. They made a survey of the forest of Puerto Rico, some 400,000 hectares, a big area, and found that 50% of the secondary forests in that area, some 100,000, were adequately stocked naturally with species that have a good hope for future markets. Some people laugh at the species we listed, because today we don't use them. But we didn't used to as aspen either, several other things that are in this vicinity that are now being used. So it's wise to look forward. That, plus the fact that these are lighter woods, they're more versatile, we can treat them against decay and insects, and they respond to silvicultural treatment, because they're light demanders and we can get faster growth out of them. This suggests that much can be done in the secondary forest. I've seen them in the Amazon, I've seen them in Malaysia, in Southern Mexico, in the West Indies, and everywhere in these secondary forests are richer than people think. The first generation may be junk. But look beneath it and see who came in as soon as the birds could perch on the things, and you have the second generation coming along. Almost all the species that are useful produce droops that are natural for bird carriage, or bats, and they move in quickly, and all they need is liberation. In Malaysia, in Sarawak, in the northern half of Borneo, they liberated a lot of these trees on thousands of hectares. And in other thousands, they located the trees, but they didn't liberate them as an experiment. But a huge one, 35,000 hectares in total, which is 70,000 acres or more. And the growth rates four years after cutting of the liberated, were significantly more rapid in basal area than those unliberated. And at the eighth year, the disparity between the two had kept on separating, they were still accelerating in growth. And to go out and see these was a great pleasure, because the liberated trees were in the crown, in the canopy already. Beautiful, big crowns going up. They needed no more help until harvest. And in the others, you had this very dense situation with no release. And we figured out that by releasing we could reduce the cycle, the cutting cycle, by 10 years. And that's much more meaningful than saying they grew faster. Even economists understand that, because the country has got to come back for timber. And they were on a 25 year cycle, which was wrong, they should have been on a 45 year cycle. But with liberation they can bring it down to 35 years, which means a great deal economically to the country. The productivity of these forests can be accelerated by a simple process of liberation in which the liberation is done, I believe you may be familiar with a practice in the States, where you add the diameter of the crop tree, the diameter of its neighbor, selecting only neighbors that are as tall or taller. The rest of them are not competitors. We have a table that tells you how far apart they have to be, depending on the sum diameters. It's a simple basal area relationship taken from plantations and it works. And the trees accelerate. And the men learn it that can't even read hardly. They learn it by heart. They know which trees are in, which are out. They poison them and go on and the forest grows. This is something that could be done everywhere, and it's far, far cheaper than planning. And the trees you bring up are the ones that were brought there by nature. You have much higher diversity. And any tree that does not interfere with one of the ones you like, you leave it. That gives you maximum fallback in the event that in the future a new market should develop, or something you didn't foresee, or if the diversity is necessary, or the bird life, or the insects that pollinate or carry the seeds, so you have that diversity there. And the practice we follow, is to set out plots of 20 by 20 meters. We will not allow more than... There are 10 trop trees selected within the plot. We won't allow more than four of one species purely to spare diversity. If you're in an area that's almost pure, you will purify it if you don't do this. This allows other species to stay in the mix. We allow some forester in the future to make the tough decisions between the better species, and that's as it should be. Plantations in the tropics have come in for a lot of complaint. I'd like to say a few things about Jari in Brazil. It's one that has had a lot of notoriety. I had a rare experience to give you an idea of the tempo in which Jari came about. I was on a plane going from Fortaleza to Belem in Brazil, on my way to a meeting in Trinidad coming north. And I was furiously writing a paper I had to present, in a little cramped area in the plane. A man was sitting beside me said nothing until we started to come down in Belem. He said, \"Sir, excuse me. But I couldn't help but see what you're doing? Are you a forester?\" And I said, \"Yes.\" He said, \"Are you a tropical forester?\" I said, \"Yes.\" And he said, \"Well, could I have two or three days of your time here in Belem? I'll pay you anything you want.\" And I said, \"Well, what's the problem?\" And he said, \"Well, my name is, Orkut, I'm a vice president of National Bulk Carriers. My boss bought the Liberty ships. And he got enough fuel in them to pay back the price he paid, and we started a big shipping industry around the world, Daniel Ludwig. And we make a lot of money. And about every six months, he calls in one of the vice presidents and it gives him a job to do that backs him financially. And two years ago, he told me to conquer the Amazon. And I went around the world looking for a tree and I found it in South China. And I found seed in Sierra Leone. I bought seven tons of seed. He got a Portuguese land grant. He couldn't get land from Brazil as an outsider, except through the grants. He found a grant that's about the size of Connecticut, and he got it. And we put in an airport, we put in a port, and I put in a nursery, and I planted the trees. And I planted a lot of trees right along the airport, and they're up this high and they're yellow. And the boss is coming in two months, and I want those trees green.\" And so this was the job. And I said, \"Well, I've got to go on to Trinidad, but I think I know somebody that can help you. He's back in Belo Horizonte in Brazil.\" He went back there and got this man. And the man said, \"Well, your tractors have so compacted the soil that the poor things can't get down and get anything to eat, and they're starving.\" He said, \"But, how do we make them green?\" He said, \"Well, that's easy, you just get the chelates, the way the florists green up the plants. And you spray all these leaves and they'll go green. And they'll stay a while, and your boss will leave and you'll be all right then.\" And that's exactly what they did. Well, the point is, this is the degree of impetuosity that characterized Jari. Jari began because they wanted veneer wood and they brought this wood, this species melina, which produces excellent veneer. And Ludwig was 88 years old and very impatient, he wanted to see the product. And I had a friend in U.S. Plywood who lunched with him some. And he kept saying, \"I want you to go down there and bring back some of that wood. I wanna see it made into veneer.\" And Bruce knew that the trees were only four or five inches in diameter at the time, they didn't have much hardwood. And he kept begging off trying to stop it. And finally, one day Ludwig said, \"I'm gonna buy you out. I'll buy U.S. Plywood and you'll have to go down there.\" And so he did go down and he brought back some wood. And he made some knickknacks for the old man's desk. And then it was worse, because they were beautiful. And it looked like, \"Well, why don't we get going?\" Well, they slowed him up when they found out that most of the wood would not make veneer, because the trees weren't big enough. So they switched to paper, and they brought the mill from Japan. And we all know that story. They floated it in. They made the Japanese build the mill, it was done. For the first time Ludwig used money from the banks, all the rest of it was his own money. And he bought this mill with New York Bank money. And they had all of the measurements, they brought in piling and drove them exactly to the measurements. They dammed up the river, floated it in, settled it on the piling. And it was on stream within about a month with Japanese labor there. And so much of this material was going in to pulp wood. And Ludwig sold out later. And it's now in Brazilian hands. They're still planting about 10,000 hectares a year and putting in a separate second mill. So that things have gone fairly well from that standpoint. And a word or two on the environmental side of it. Originally, when I first went there, they were bragging because they'd lost only one man for every 2,500 hectares they planted. And I asked them, \"Well, how did you lose these people?\" And they said, \"Well, there's two ways. You can't fell the Amazon forest like you do other forests, everything's tied up with vines. So the men go in and they notch several hectares all on the same side. And they knock one down into it and all the rest of them go. Well, this is fine, as long as there's no wind. And as long as they're no hollow ones. But if they hit a hollow one and it goes down and the men are in there, they can't get out, and everything's tied together and it all comes down and we lose somebody. The other thing is when they get all through, three months later they set fire to it, about 3,000 hectares at a time. And they run all through it with torches in order to produce high convection, because the logs are that big and they have to burn them all up. And so men sometimes get trapped and never heard of again in the fires. Well, this is history. They're not doing that anymore. That the logs are all going into firing up the mill by using a wood fuel for the mill. One of the things that put an end to Ludwig's interest was a request by Brazil that he use their power. When he got the grant, he had a whole river system in which you had a dam site. And the minute he had cut enough natural forest around to supply his mill he wasn't gonna cut any more new forests and he wasn't gonna burn plantations, so he had to have another source of power and he was gonna put a dam on the river. Well, before he did that, Eletronorte, this big corporation of Brazil, put a dam on the Tocantins downstream. And it was a huge project. Now the lake is 200 kilometers long and they didn't have enough consumption, and so they insisted that he use that power. And it would have required a cable 26 kilometers along under the river, and he refused to do it. This was one of the breaking points in that project. But technically, they're in pretty good shape. Ludwig understood that melina was what he needed. And his third forester, he fired four of them, his third forester was from Indonesia, and he knew Pinus merkusii. And he had seed brought in and he planted it, because they were planning melina on sand and doesn't do well on sand. And one day when the pine were up about like this, he stopped Ludwig and showed it to him. And Ludwig fired him on the site. He said, \"The world is full of pine, we don't need it. We want melina. I didn't tell you to bring any pine.\" So the guy left. Well, his successor was a former subordinate of mine. And every time they drove by that site, well he just kept on going, because he knew this was no place to stop. But the pine went up and got pretty big. And finally, Ludwig stopped him one time going by there and said, \"Tell me about this.\" He said, \"Well, I understood you didn't like it.\" And he said, \"Well, it looks pretty good. What is there to it? And he said, \"Well, this is much better for your mill than melina, and it's much better on the sands. The first year we ran the mill, we cut three years of plantations, because they were so poor on the sand. And we have to go way back in the mountains to get clay for the other species.\" So he finally allowed 20% of pine. And then they went on and they have shifted into pine a great deal. And they have teak now and 12 species they're planting, which is a change. Another interesting anecdote about Ludwig. Was that he used this project as therapy. He lived in New York. He had a lot of programs going. He was reputed to be worth 2 billion at the time. And he came down in clothes of a fishermen kind of. He looked like a bum. And he showed up at the airport in Belem, where they had the DC-3 that flew him, twice a day, into the camp. And they all knew him, the pilots all know him, so he just climbed aboard and went there. And one day he was the only one. And when he got there, he asked the pilot to fly around so he look at the plantations. And looking down he saw a long line of trees that were yellow. And he asked the pilot, \"Well, what do you think's wrong down there?\" The pilot said, \"Well, probably bad soil or something.\" He didn't know, of course. They landed, nothing was said. And about three months later, one morning there was a ship loaded with fertilizer at the port and nobody knew what it was for. And they had a hotline in New York and they called and he said, \"Well, he was fortunate, he had it. It was on the high seas headed for Japan. He turned it around, 'cause he saw they had that yellow stuff and they had to fertilize.\" This is the kind of decisions that come whether to use fertilizer or not under these circumstances. One of his statements is, \"If I don't do a lot, I can't afford to spend more on it.\" This is the kind of thinking that goes into this. Well, the fertilizer was in jute, not in plastic, and they had no place to store it. In that climate, you can't put it outdoors, so they tied up the ship in demurrage for months while they built a warehouse to put it in. And somebody went out and looked at those trees. And if you know anything about big rivers, you know they form a lot of bars, and the bars are all an inch or two, one higher than the other. Well, this was a bar that was a little higher than its neighbors. And the species is facultatively deciduous. That is when you get a dry spell, it goes out of leaves. And of course it starts on the highest lands, and that's all he saw and they never fertilized it of course. They used it for food and other purposes, but this was the kind of thing he was not gonna fail. And he threw out foresters one after the other for being too conservative. And the last one, that I was with him here in Mexico last week, stayed 'til the very end. And I think technically, Jari is a success in many ways. One of the Brazilian women who runs Sudan, the big program out of Belem, made this statement that Ludwig had obeyed every law of Brazil in what he did. They carefully studied the laws. They bought local materials. They exported the product, which they had to do. And they had found so much productivity on the lands they used, that three thousandths of 1% of the Amazon Basin would satiate the needs of Brazil, and the rest of it could be saved for environment. That isn't what's gonna happen. But this is the balance that you see. Now it was monoculture, still is. One other ecologist questioned, rightfully, how long can you go on, taking off at the rate they're taking? And there's a limit. And I think they're aware of it, they've been monitoring the soil. The pine will go farther than the melina, it's not as heavy a feeder, and it's in sand. And the pine they expect to get four or five crops before they have any problems with nutrients. Melina two or three, they're not sure. They haven't got this far yet. But they have people out there monitoring. They have a whole system, soil probes, they are following continuously. And of course they know what they're taking off. And genetically they're improving the trees. One of the striking things I saw there, whenever they found a melina that outdid its neighbors, they cut it, and then it sprouted. And they took the sprout material, which was much easier to root, and they got lots and lots of sprouts and then they've developed clones from that. Well, plantations in the tropics have been at best tremendous successes, and at worst tremendous failures. And the failures outnumber the successes about 50 to one. People don't talk about them very much. Many of them are very expensive. We've planted 2,000 acres of cedrela before we abandoned it. We planted a lot of mahogany before we abandoned it, but then it came back and we succeeded finally on that. But some of you may wonder about sustainability, because we're all asking questions about sustainability. And I was told today that what I saw out the window from the car around here was not sustainable. I was surprised a little bit, but I realize we're putting a strong definition on this word. And nobody's lived long enough to see whether sustainability is really sustainable. Well, the promise of sustainability in the tropics, in many views, is less in the temperate zone, because of leaching, because of loss of nutrients, and this is probably true. I think it's gonna be true in the temperate zone too. We've gone a long way with forestry without much fertilizer in the temperate zone. And foresters who go to the tropics will get their training practically in the temperate zone, and they don't think of fertilizer. They just go right ahead. And you get away with it for awhile. But I have a suspicion that's gonna pay when the time comes. And the what's gonna have to be added may well not the primarily nitrogen. And if it's not, it may not be terribly expensive. And we may find that with a mix of species, we can do pretty well for a long time. But that is not, nobody is certain about it. I was in Malaysia, not so long ago, where a fellow from Denmark challenged the forestry they we're bragging about in Sarawak, he says, \"it's sustainable.\" And he said, \"What about yours?\" And it brought down the house. Everybody knew that we were talking about something we don't know about, but we should be concerned about it. I have a few slides to illustrate some of the things and I'd be wide open for comment/questions when it's over. Not all the tropical forests are broad leaf trees and steeped in water, ferns, that we are so accustomed to seeing. This is Pinus occidentalis in the mountains in Haiti. I'm sad to say this forest is no longer there, for reasons I guess most of us know. Haitian forests are down to about 1% of the land. This was one area that didn't get burned, and the pine really wanted to come back. This is around 5,000 feet elevation. They have light snows even there. This is Quercus in Central America, in Costa Rica. It's oak, beautiful, big oaks along the Pan-American Highway. If you go there now, you won't see them. It was taken some time ago. This was a track promised by the president of Costa Rica as a refuge or reserve. And it turned out to have 10 hectares, and somehow got cut later and is no longer there. But the oaks of the Costa Rican Mountains are really beautiful. They are a bigger than some of ours. This is in Peru, Eastern Peru. Wet forest gives you some idea of the mixture. Forest is not uniform. There are places you can ride a bicycle through it. There are places that are terribly dense. The volumes are not as high as they are in the temperate zone, merely because it's a massive gaps with trees coming up through several age classes mix. This is Amazon. One of the things about the forest that's impressive here is the straightness of the trees. They appear to have been struggling for light and they go right straight up when they get a chance. And many of them that are thin don't get very large, but still are extremely straight. This is a felling scene in Malaysia, a dipterocarp, a chainsaw. And you can see the low stump they're cutting. This is typical debris in the Philippines after logging. The branch in the foreground is left and it is a hole caused by the canopy. But you can see straight stems in the background, which are one of the things I talk about which I believe is the future forest, much more so than cutting and planting. Skid trails are unpopular with people concerned about the environment. This left this way will be a gully, probably forever. It's cut down deep. And obviously, it's in a rainy area. And you have a slide on the lower side, which tends to weaken it and produce more erosion. This is the beginning of the next stage where farmers have moved in and started to cut down everything that was left in order to convert it for agriculture. This is a railroad, which you can ride on, it's a little bumpy. And is used to take logs out of the swamp forest in Malaysia. The ground is too soft for other vehicles. And so you can see how much wood was used to build the railroad. And the logs come to the railroad pushed by man over roads that are made of these logs and greased. And so almost all of the leftover pole stock is cut just purely in getting the logs out. This is along a skid road, showing removal of bark. One of the first things that's done in some species, because insects get into the bark, and ambrosia and other beetles work out the sapwood and reduce the value of the timber very quickly. This is in Mexico, where Patricia comes from, in Quintana Roo. This is a second cut in a stand in Southeastern Yucatan Peninsula of mahogany and Spanish cedar, and Chaka, which is Bursera woods that are used for veneer. The logs are not particularly straight. Some of these are culls that were left from the first cut, but the values have gone up and so they're taking them. There's some regeneration of these species left in the forest. This is being done by an ejido, one of the communes of Mexico, which has been worked with by the German foresters for many years and has developed a management plans. They have their own equipment, and they're as close to sustained yield as anybody in this hemisphere. These are logs waiting for, of all things, veneer. The wood is extremely valuable, used for doweling shipped all over the world. And it's in Malaysia. And even logs with those large rotten centers are placed on the lathe and veneer is taken from them. This is greenheart, in Guyana. Wood used for piling, brought out in long lengths for driving in ports, because it resists Teredos, marine borers. A man saw in Malaysia. This is in Java, squaring up teak. Those chips are not wasted, but the teak itself is squared before it's used for other purposes. Familiar scene in all of the areas of the Far East, where logs are produced and exported in log form. This is North Borneo, and the ship is headed for Singapore in Japan. The mangroves are extensive in Malaysia, and they're converted to chips here by Japanese, who ship the chips to Japan, make alpha cellulose and other products there. It's a big business. The chips of course have salt in them, they have to be leached before they're used. This is logged out Hill Forest in the dipterocarps. Some 30 cubic meters per hectare were taken out of here, which is a heavy cut. And it's steep country, what you see is a skid trail. It's been left now, it's been about a year since it was cut. And the remarkable thing is how good the forest is. Almost everywhere there's a closed canopy or nearly so. This is a condition that forests are generally left in, because only certain trees are taken, here more than most places. They did a very good job of skidding out without leaving a whole lot of damage. And if it's not cultivated, one might ask, \"Well, why can't this go out and make another crop?\" In this forest, the number one species are 174. And number two and number three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41085/file/112930#t=0.0,2827.968"}]}]}]}