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I can, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=34.67,38.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. If you wouldn't mind, could you spell your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=38.99,41.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last name for us? W o o the f, all right, sounds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=41.12,46.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"great, and we can hear you OK also. 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One of the things I would say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3660.56,3663.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that you really need to keep up to date","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3663.5,3666.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"technologically. 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You also have to be able to understand","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3669.14,3673.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where the people you are working with want to work","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3673.46,3675.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with, where they are as what is the collective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3675.98,3679.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you more importantly need to know individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3679.79,3681.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you're working with this set of family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3681.93,3684.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"members, you need to know something about them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3684.17,3686.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's always a confidentiality associated","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3686.3,3688.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with it. But you need to be able to to to analyze","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3688.55,3691.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and read. 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I do. You really want to you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3704.9,3709.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want that person at least my bias is I want anyone","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3709.34,3712.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I work with to trust me. Because of how I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3712.61,3717.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relate and respond relative to them and not saying,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3718.01,3722.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well, you know, from. Twenty five people would do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3722.15,3725.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. No, no, no, no, no. Here are suggestions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3725.88,3728.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"specifically for you. 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You know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3900.8,3904.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's one thing to learn something in a classroom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3904.47,3906.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it's another thing to to put it in practice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=3906.41,3908.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out with the public. 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But on the other hand,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4347.6,4350.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there are all along opportunities for my content","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4350.39,4353.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"area to be important. To what extent? And says it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4353.99,4356.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4356.75,4357.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would think so, definitely. And well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4359.5,4362.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barbara, is there anything that we haven't talked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4362.98,4365.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about that you think is important?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4365.65,4367.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What would I say, I believe, other than being in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4370.08,4373.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your own business extension, is one of those","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4373.8,4377.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"places where you give that, I want to say, because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4377.46,4381.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's the right thing to do. Mm hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4381.21,4382.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Barbara, I think that's a good place to be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4386.66,4388.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to in this conversation today, and if you don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4389.96,4392.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mind, could you stay on the line just for another","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4392.81,4395.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"moment? And I'm going to stop recording, but I do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4395.03,4398.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want to thank you for the service you've done for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4398.51,4401.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Iowa and extension especially. So I just want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4401.54,4405.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"offer at least my thanks. And I'm sure the people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4405.38,4407.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that listen to it would like to offer theirs, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4407.45,4409.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'm going to go ahead and stop this, and I'll","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=4409.79,4412.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169/transcript/34286/annotation/1340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be right back with you, Barbara. 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We are interviewing extension employees with 40 years or more experience. Today, we'll be speaking with Barbara Woods. She is an extension special projects manager here, Iowa State University extension and outreach. Barbara, can you hear me OK? I can, yes. Great. If you wouldn't mind, could you spell your last name for us? W o o the f, all right, sounds great, and we can hear you OK also. So, Barbara, to get started today, I wanted to ask you a little bit about your personal background, about where you grew up, what kind of experiences you had before Iowa State. Would you mind sharing a little bit of your background with us? Of course. I grew up in the Middle Eastern section of Alabama in a little town called Alexander City, Alabama. If you know Russell athletic activities, then you know the name of that town. I went to all black high school except the 11th and 12th grade, which I went to, is indeed an integrated school transition to Alabama A\u0026M and Huntsville to do undergraduate and also get master's there in home economics education. And after finishing college, undergraduate and master's, I went to the Alabama Extension Service and worked as a Humacao County health economist for three years up in the Muscle Shoals area. And from there I came to Iowa State as a graduate student in nineteen seventy eight. Very interesting why what got you interested in economics when you were at Alabama A\u0026M? Well, I have to be truthful, that it started probably in high school because I'm of the age where not a lot was said about girls being in things other than teaching and nursing. And so I had originally really wanted to be a physician, but that was not an option. So one of my high school economics teacher said, Barbara, go into home economics, education or and look at some feel like that because you can always get a job no matter how small the town. So but it wasn't that I didn't appreciate it because I had taken home economics all through high school. And so I was very fond of the content areas. And so looking at it ultimately as a career was a natural. Very interesting, how was your experience at Alabama A\u0026M? It was a fantastic experience, and I say that because I grew up in a very small town, relatively small town out in the rural section of town, so go and so go on to Alabama. And he allowed me to go to an institution in which almost all of my professors were African-American and or from some other country like India, Pakistan, some of those places. And so I had a very far reaching concept of who people could be, what you could be to be able to see as a black female, African-American, female, people of color, as physicians, people of color in leadership roles at my department, chair of the dean of the college was a female. So, again, very early on, starting to college and then in nineteen seventy one, being able to see people who look like me was really important. I believe it made sense of a sense of this is normal. It is not an exception. Very interesting, do you think you've carried that that experience from A\u0026M with you throughout your career? I'd say absolutely in the sense that I don't perceive myself as less there, nor do I think of other people as more than I really think of myself as having a set of skills or have learned things, and therefore it's up to me to use them. So in going through life, I've encountered things that always allow me to go back to this concept of I have a good self image. And that has been very beneficial. When you when I come from an environment that is that has a greater diversity of people, of color, of whites and others to an environment like Iowa State and Iowa, which is less it is diverse, but less so in some ways that one find valuable as you go through your life. Yeah, definitely. Do you do you have any experience when you worked with the Alabama extension? Well, I worked it in the two counties, so I was in the day of work in two counties and I work primarily with people who had limited income. My client was both white and black. You really didn't have a lot of other groups of people other than black and white. So I worked it out in a rural section, taught food and nutrition classes how to prepare food, how to purchase food budgets and kinds of things, family life kinds of things. And so I was working directly, mostly with women who some were stay at home, some of them worked. But really, these were people who were in many cases not well-educated in the sense that they had advanced degrees or trained to be on high school. And so it was really trying to help them make the most. And from what they had and to hopefully improve their decision making so that they were better able to support their families, typically children and spouses and or other family members who might be might have been dependent upon them. So it was really educating people at the community based level. In my day as a home economist, we spent we really went to people's homes. So I was working one on one. There were times when there were groups, but typically it was a one on one relationship with that female in their household and her immediate family that live there. But there were some group activities. I had a group I created a group of women who were into community development, building leadership skills. So that was a fun thing to do. That was outside of the norm of working on your food sources, working on your finances, working on you felt this was about individual development in terms of leadership within their communities. So that was fun. That was fun. But all of it was fun, I think, because I like people. So and this was in the mid 1970s, I guess wasn't why I work from seventy six, seventy seventy five through nineteen seventy eight August as a home economist in Muscle Shoals and Florence, Alabama, up in the Shoals area. That's not without them. Wow. You know, at that time period, integration was still pretty new in Alabama. Yes, it was ugly. Yeah. Could be ugly. It could be ugly. And you were working with, you know, as you said, both African-Americans and whites, I guess. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. And that and I was actually working there when we had a major lawsuit that came down on the Alabama Cooperative Extension Service that went roughly twenty five years or more. Before it was settled, my case stayed in court and it was around women being county directors, which was predominantly male, and also the integration of women into the role and black women into the role of county county extension director or having leadership roles outside of just typically home economics. So it was really at the time when the law took effect. People use the law to to leverage and a lawsuit was brought. So I have that experience and that really gave me something to think about as I thought about going to for. Because we are we are part of that issue was around how did performance reviews, how to do performance appraisals. And for me what happened was we failed, meaning the extension service failed in Alabama to do the right thing around performance review. And so I thought by grad school, I said, I'd like to learn how to do evaluation. And so so part of coming to Iowa State for graduate school was to seek a degree at home economics with an emphasis in evaluation. Right. Do you like this? Do you think had that idea about how to correct failure is something that has really stayed with you over the years? If you see something that's wrong, to try to correct it. Well, I think so, I think so the rub is how to do it. That's always my problem, because I'm a fairly blunt person or direct person. And what I know about systems is that we don't tend to like to be direct. We want to go. We want to be more passive aggressive. And that is not my nature. So that has been that thing that has been with me this whole time is the ability to hopefully help someone else see how they can make a difference, why they want to do something, what could be the benefit of it? In a way, that's. That they will deal with it and not think somebody is being harsh, right? I found that. Throughout my lifetime, there are times when you it's not what you think it is. And so having the educational experiences and living in different parts of of the of the state of Alabama as well as coming Iowa has reinforced the need to be able to work with all kinds of people. Understand. And they don't all agree with, you know, like. Yeah, it really shaped your perspective, I guess it does, because it's about. I'm not the only person that's important and being able to listen and understand, because part of the work for an extension is helping someone see the benefit of something. And most of many of us are very value oriented, meaning my values are the most important. And I think I learned certainly when I started to work in the late in the in nineteen seventy five and now I'm extent to service and work with limited income people. I started to understand and my values were not important to pass on what was important to understand what they needed, wanting and were willing to do. And again that has stayed with me is that yes, I may value X. That doesn't mean the person I'm working with values that. And so to push my values onto them wasn't going to win me any points and wasn't going to help me get them to where based on what they were telling me would make sense. Right. I guess that really speaks to the service nature of extension of, I think, people's needs. Yeah, there's an old adage of helping people help themselves. That's very much what it's about, because people many people are most people come with more knowledge about their present circumstance, how they got there, why they got there on and on and on and on. But if we don't listen to that, our help may go on. Our use are used right. In making that impact is always important, isn't it? And it is about this from A.. When we talk about evaluation, we talk about the impact. But the impact also applies to whether the person can use it. Ultimately, impact is whether the person you encountered and or worked with was able to use that information. That's very, very important and that has been true all through my career in extension and any role that I played had in extent. It always is about will the person that receives the information and or help be able to use it and be inclined to use it, right? Well, it's a laudable goal, definitely. Yeah. Barbara, do you remember who recruited you to come to Iowa State? Well, actually, what I made up the decision to apply to the best schools in home economics myself. And so I applied to five schools, got accepted at five schools and ultimately came to Iowa State. I was not originally going to come back. I was going to go to Penn State. I got a mail. I went home at lunchtime for my job. And in the mail was a letter from Iowa State. And they accept of all my massive level credit. And so I said, oh, why not? And I had met a lady in the town that I worked in who had gone to Iowa State in the late 50s, a black lady who had come here in 19 in the late 50s. And so that played enough. And I actually knew the lady it was enough to help me say, OK, I guess I feel comfortable going someplace maybe that I have not been before because I would have never been to the Midwest. So I make a choice about looking at schools myself. But once I got accepted, a man named Charles Ramsey from the Graduate College at Iowa State was the person who started to contact me frequently about. Understanding what I needed to do, like financial assistance or research assistantship, all those kinds of things live in spaces and all that. So there was an African-American in the Gradkowski, Charles Charles Ramsey, as I said, who facilitated the process. OK. Did you ever come to Iowa State to visit before you arrived? Did you? Yes, he did. So my goal was that I would come September nineteen seventy eight. So he arranged for me to come that summer. And I came and spent about three days at the university and visited in my department with the faculty and got some sense around my options. And of course, I did not know at the time, actually the chair of the department. Told me after I got here that I was a little too young to be in graduate school. Oh, really? Yes, because of my mates, I think everybody was in their late 20s. And I would have better not think 20, maybe 23. I think it was twenty three maybe going on twenty four, and of course for her that was too young. To be to be schooled at that level anyway, she ultimately was my major professor and it worked out perfectly fine. But but you had so much experience already. Well, but you're. Yeah, but what again, are you in a period of time where even women view certain things is not appropriate? Because that was still in a time when you ought to be married, getting married, having children and all that. And I wasn't making those choices right. Food is nice, but. Yeah, I guess hard to live up to those kind of historic expectations that. Exactly. And it was it was expectation set on set and it feels like they were predominantly female teaching. And someone else feels so, yeah, do you do you have any first memories of when you got here to Iowa? I mean, coming from Alabama all the way to the Midwest, were there any kind of first memories that, you know, really struck you? I remember I came from an area where people did some farming, but not in the sense that that you do in Iowa. Of course, I came from have plenty of trees. So trees are normal to me. Even when you're driving along highway, I get to Iowa, I get off of a plane and we come to Ames by car. And I think and there was not a tree to be seen. But I remember we came up, it would have been 80 over to 30 in the north to Ames. And I think there were no trees. So that was one question. And then I got to got to town and lived in Buchanan Hall, which still exist. And I had been told that and I think it was a brochure about Lake Laverne. So I asked the person who hosted the daughter where is like Laverne, and she said, we'll just go down the hill and walk in. You'll find it. So I go down the hill and I walk and I can't walk in. So I'm meandered around. What I saw was water, but it was not a lake to me. I grew up where a lake is a much, much, much larger space. So the palm. So I keep walking and I never came up on it. So I went back and I said she said, oh, that was it. I said, oh, that was it that I like. So that's one of my fondest memories of her thinking about the difference in water, the difference in trees and the space. Right. So then it stayed with me and I frequently still walk around Lake Laverne and think about it's not a lake, but they should rename it the pond and that would be Apple. OK, well, Barbara, as you were studying there for a Ph.D., how did you get to be involved with extension at Iowa State? Well, actually, it happened after I grabbed as I was graduating, so I had worked in Alabama as Extension, was about to graduate and was looking for jobs, one of my schoolmates in Home Economics said who got her just before me was working in the extension service. And Kathy said, Barbara, there is a position called assistant director to computer systems, and they're looking for a person with a background in exchange and who knows extension and knows how to use computers for education. And she suggests you should apply, you should apply, should apply. So I applied and I got the job. And it really was because of my schoolmates, I was the only person who took the assistantship with the young female new professor who had got her PhD in economics and had a minor, I believe, in computer science statistics. And because of that happenstance, it changed not knowing at the time of starting grad school would change the trajectory of my life right in the sense it was the marrying of a content area with some knowledge about technology that got me that opportunity, that moved you over into it. And computers have been a really big part in your career. Yep, I've almost always been attached to to something around computers the whole time. Again, I'm not a computer expert, I'm not a computer programmer, but it's that mix of when you have a content area and you know how to use some tools. And at the time, we would argue the computer was a tool. It was an attraction area. It was a tool. So the task was how to marry the content that we use an extension in agricultural families, incorporate in all of the areas to use the computer to facilitate that. Do so, go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. Do you remember what year that was when you moved into that position? I started the early part of September 1st, nineteen eighty one eighty one. And there had not been this was a new position. So I was the first person in the position. And there were similar kinds of positions and they may not have the exact same name in a lot of other state extensions because at that point they needed to make that transition to using technology and not using computers. That's how we would speak about it then. And so I had counterparts and we're in the central region of the United States in terms of extension. And so there I can't remember how many states there are, but I would have been the only female in the group of men there headed up these units. Right. I was going to ask you that. I mean, they're that sort of late 70s, early 80s there must have been uncommon to have a woman in that position with computers and especially an African-American woman. Very much so. Very much so. And and I don't know that anybody was no one was ever ugly or anything. But again, that could be who I am or how I interacted with people. But the men were not overtly ugly or anything. And I don't really remember any of them being absolutely ugly. I would say I encountered more things in other places when I said what I did. And they always wanted to say, well, why would you do that and why are you interested? And or surprise, if they heard me talk on the phone that they had never met me in person because they were always shocked that I was black. Oh, really? Once you met face to face, yes. More than a few people were slight, were more than slightly shocked. Matter of fact, one gentleman said to my secretary, why didn't you tell me she was black? Oh, wow. So so, you know, they're little subtle things that happen that that, you know, are they good or bad? I don't know. You just take them in stride. You know, 40, almost 40 years later, I can think think about it and laugh about it because it is connected to the time and history is connected to what we value, those kinds of things. Well, you know, you had mentioned that you didn't have a background in computer programming or anything like that. How did you bring your experience in home economics with you, new computer systems? Well, part of it was while I was a graduate student with my assistantship, my task was to work with my. The assistant professor who I work for in doing some things aren't putting data into the computer to be used for analysis, for research. And so I learned to use the tools that we were using and we were using it around home economics content, so and then I took some classes. So in the course of work with her, I needed to take some classes because I needed to be able to read the code and sometimes write a little bit of code. Now, no, I was not a programmer. I was not interested in being a programmer. What what what it was about is the logic. Want to what we use because our separate programming languages and of course, we're going to use some of those low in, we will also use them products like Fast's, which is a data analysis program that you can you put your data into it and and do analysis to to do your research, reporting on those kinds of things and and took classes on how to use computers in teaching. So that's not so much wanting to program. That was not my interest. I don't have that kind of patience. But it was really in. Could we use this? I can think about the content. And of course, we were at a time that some of the things we could conceive of you really couldn't do because you had insufficient access to computers to do it, the price tag on using software was expensive. So the idea that the things that we do now, that in for instance, are places in textile kind of area, you now can drop the patterns that are based on a computer and have little knowledge because you have care programs that will do it for you. In the late in the late 70s, early 80s, we weren't at that place that we could do that kind of work. Or we couldn't do analysis of the food you ate, those kinds of things ultimately was some of the things that you could learn to do and are now quite normal. And this is what young people about people in college to learn. Yeah, that's a really interesting point, Barbara. Do you think that as computers have evolved, especially with regards to extension and you know that early at least the early work with home economics is that computers kind of had a didn't have a sort of like democratizing effect, you know, that it sort of shared this knowledge, you know, through a computer as opposed to having to be an expert, as you said, now that you can pick up a pattern or something like that, it kind of shared. This information a little bit more, I think it put some people out at this event, it was in those days it was all about we're going to lose our job, not individuals say that. But that was kind of the overtone that you might hear. Well, it's got take my job away. Well, if you think about it and from what we know from history at that time, we were talking about artificial intelligence, but it was not a state that was cost and or appropriate to try to use it to mimic decision making that some of our colleagues would be using. When you're working with people that you work with in communities, you know, I would never turn that thought process over about child rearing to a computer, even male. I wouldn't do that. You need somebody with some human characteristics because we know that our algorithm really sets the standard of how you do it. And it you repeat it, just change the circumstance with human beings. There are a lot of other things that happen. We interact one on one or in a group with people to help them learn and use information. Mm hmm. So so those things are still with us about what's the proper ratio of using technology to human contact that's still with us as a kind of an ongoing balance that has to take place? Yeah, because there are lots of things associated with it. There are all kinds of things about learning south there, about whether the content is appropriate. What did the content take into account as it tried to help someone if it's computerized, but the same kinds of things apply with human being. So those kind of issues are still there around. How do you use humans and how do you use technology to help people help themselves? Right. Well, you know, Barbara, I want to go back just for a moment here, you had mentioned logic and I was wondering how important, you know, in the training you had in home economics, how important was logic or logical organization? And and how did that affect, you know, that work that you were doing with computer systems? I think in home economics, I learned how to. Apply what you know, to understand how to read situations, how to think about processes to solve a problem. So if you're teaching someone about how to prepare a recipe, there is logic associated with that because of the interactions of the ingredients. There are all things about when can you use what temperature, what kind of container, where you use. Those are logical kinds of things that you need to have in your head as you get information to help you try to determine what your best option. Yes, a recipe will tell you things, but there are some things that it may not tell you it I'll tell you the size of the pan, but it can tell you anything about whether it's whether it's a glass of Pyrex or if it's aluminum. All those kinds of things could make a difference. cast-Iron all of those things. So it takes being able to logically process what information you're given given to help you make a decision moving forward. And the same thing, I think with computers, you know, there's some logic to it. You don't just sit down and start writing code. You might need to think about it for same thing. When when I was taught home economics classes, there are some things you think about it before you start doing it. Because the cost of making an error is very great, both in teaching people about how to do things as well as writing a computer application. Yeah, what's really interesting is some people might not make the connection between home economics and computers, but as you're stating it, they they really do have a lot in common. I think you have to be able to use instructions and understand instructions. Bottom line, in both cases, if you if you can't understand what you read and apply it, I think you can have difficulty in either one. But because from home economics, I knew about, quote, sequencing. I knew to put together a government that thinks you will you do X before Y before the same kind of thing applied to me in learning how to do some basic kind of programming and understanding the logic of decision making. Did you ever see people come into into computer systems who maybe, just maybe like it just didn't work out, it just really wasn't their thing, you know, those early years? Oh, yes. And, you know, I often heard my colleagues, be they male or female, when I say that my extension of coworkers who detested technology or computers and would fight Nayland Tooth, I'm not wanting to do applications that we had that they needed to use for their extension work and would be somewhat belligerent. However, it didn't take long if they got into it and started using that. If the system went down, they were really mad with, you know, what can they do? You have to drag them into the late 20th century. But once they were and if the system went down, then the issue became, why isn't it work and why isn't it working? Well, you know, nothing is foolproof and all kinds of things that go into effect when you're using technology. That could impede your ability to perform that day if you're dependent upon the technology, right. And that's and that's one of the things what I think about this, my history here and in the flow of technology as a background for it is that we went from very few computers in the early days, old Appletree, and not old apple trees to present day where we're looking at high end systems that are very small. And now each individual, each one of us all whatever number there are an extension, which is hundreds of people that each person has access to his or her own personal computer. It's not the way it used to be. We had one computer in ninety seven eighty one when we started. There was one computer in the offices, in the field, in each of the offices out in the state. And those days we had a lot more people and only one person was using. And in the early days, a number of the program areas really weren't using it for education. So really that more of our business operations may have been one of the in some areas the place where they started using it most. Agriculture, one of the areas like economics, animal science, some of those areas were areas that use it much more in terms of the educational use in home economics. I think we would have started using some things like where you kept recipes online so that you could go in your file so that you could pick them up and you didn't have to go look for the ball. And then started some simulations from and these products were not necessarily developed at Iowa State. They came out of overall extension teams of people working on them. So you start to get simulations to help people understand things. But that was. Let's put it like this, these tools came and this tool came into play before people had spent time thinking about how it could be used. Right. You know, one of the big parts of the history and home economics, you know, especially with extension, where the the old demonstration agents about trying to show people how to use technology. And I guess computers is kind of similar to that. You have to show people how to do it. Well, it's just like when they put microwave what microwave microwave ovens came out, different technology. But it's the technology is a change from a regular cooking style to another. Tool that can do similar kinds of things. Yes, so it has been historic that there have been inventions and uses of things that progress through in my field home economics to that family home base, part of lights and computers were no different, just another part of the technology chain. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Not not to put you on the spot, Barbara, but do you remember by chance maybe an example of maybe a county's reluctance to. To take on the computer. Oh, yes, I don't know names, but let me put an example would be we created the budget group, created a spreadsheet for doing budgeting, which was a spreadsheet that went out to all of the county offices. And the deal was with the with the county director through the state person said, please fill this out. That about a dime. I believe they had training on it and there were people who didn't want to turn it in that way. So the field operation, first of year, I thought, what did I. And I said, Mr. Lystra, really, honestly, we're going to get paper. He said, I tell you what, we're going to put something out and we're going to say, if you don't turn it in electronically, I don't even think we used it. If you don't change your spreadsheet, then we will not sign off on this transfer of money. So that was a little bit of stick and carrot or whatever the right expression is, to get some people to understand this is how it's going to be. And part of that had to do with reminding people this is an expectation. Right, and I think we had some good people in leadership who didn't let people slide. And it took a little bit of work on some cases and they could be whatever, but in general we were able to make it work and I doubt you had him. You don't have an office now that doesn't understand this is the way it is. And if you don't use the system, you don't get what you need. We have to take it for granted now. Exactly, exactly. Exactly. That's really difficult to even imagine a time without a computer, data sheets or anything. Exactly. And of course, when we originally started, you didn't have the ability to send this data across land. It was it was into the early 80s before we had something called the modem that we used. To transmit your attention to your computer like now, you don't have to you don't have to attach anything to your computer. You've got wireless. You can get on to the network and you can do what you want to do. Right. And you have to use the old phones, didn't you? Oh, yes. We did use acoustic blues, what it was called. And they had one line, one telephone line, and we had switches on the line. And you have to remember to turn to switch back to the different position. Those kinds of things. So my first and my first 20 years in extension was about using the technology to help us do our extension work, so I spent 20 years doing that. Well, you know, that's a really good thing to mention here. So when you were starting off with computers and as you were getting more attuned to working with computer systems, what did you think could be possible with computers? I mean, you're there at sort of that really that early period where computers are coming into the workplace or coming into an extension setting. You know, was there part of you that was sort of thinking long range about what we could do with this kind of a system as we went along? I'm one of the things I thought about because I had some electric classes and all around artificial intelligence and what that meant, I thought I was thinking, how do we learn by using artificial intelligence? Can we be learning? So, for instance, can we create little applications that are like the question is ask you put the answer to it based on your answer is going to branch and do some things that we don't understand and it's going to come back with a recommendation. I was really thinking ultimately that could be something that we wouldn't have to ask the same question over and over, we could ask the question a person could type in his or her purse, his or her response, and they could get some feedback. I really thought that would be something that we would use. And I would think now we do have some of those kinds of applications, not only an extension, but in a number of different places. I thought it would be at some point. Easier to access the technology than it was at the time, because we started out, it was costing huge amounts of money just to buy one set of equipment for one person. This much has got much cheaper. It's got much smaller. I would argue those things in a way. One of the first print weighed more than 30 pounds. Then the good quality 50 is about the computers, 30, 40 pounds. You know, you start picking up all that stuff is heavy, right? And you need more space because that the big printer took up a lot of space with a hood to keep down the noise. So you had all those kinds of things. So I think I I believe that we were going to get to a place where each individual would have their own workstation or I wouldn't call it workstation, but their own computer should use that. So I expected that to happen as we were going along. I expected there to be a better way to communicate across some kind of system versus those floppy disk and all being what you shipped to send mail to somebody that we would be able to call what we now use the word download stuff from a place to our local machine. So those were some things that I thought we would get more intel with, how we could use it for teaching. Right. The tool for teaching, I hope, I was hoping that it was going to get cheaper because it cost a lot of money and, you know, you buy 10 machines, you spend close to seventy five thousand dollars. Do you think I was on sort of the cutting edge as far as computers go? You know, I mean, investing with extension, I would say we probably were cutting edge. And certainly as we put in our first network, we would have been at the very top of the heap. Do you remember what year was that, Barbara? Oh, my goodness. What year did we. So we brought in the real real network where with fiber optics, the early early nineteen nine ninety nine, early nineteen nineties. OK, so so basically we were looking at rather than going across using a dial up modem, able to wire the building so that they could get onto a local network in that office and that cost a lot of money. Because extension does not get stood, it doesn't do an extension, does not get funds based on students because we don't have students. So that meant we didn't it cost three roughly three million dollars to put that network in place to get that connection to all these offices. Wow. And we were fortunate to have built relationships with the computation center. And at that time, director who moved on to NSF and he working with Iowa State as a partner, helped extension leverage the money to get that three million. Do you think that made people nervous at all, or at least some people nervous when we started talking to you, start talking about like three million dollars? I mean, that was a lot. But I think what. Well, I think our administrative group knew about it. I'm sure university. But the organization had no clue what it took to put all that stuff into place. I mean, I'm sure we told them, but that was not in their minds that I don't believe it was technology even early on was an expensive endeavor, given that we are people oriented group. The extension is basically people. That's why. And to come in and put that kind of a resource in financial resource and understand you've got to turn it over every so often because it is not it's constantly changing. You know, you have to pace. I don't know how we'd probably trade the computers out every five years or so. Now we trade them out about every three and a trade center, so and so and each new each new version of a hardware create some issues with the software or the new software. Software creates some issue with a computer. And in those days, everybody, everything was disk oriented. We weren't getting things that we could download from from a mainframe or from wherever wireless to bring it into the systems and not have all those disk and all those boxes. That's all changed. You almost don't have any pipe, any evidence other than to go to the network to deal with stuff. And of course, early on, early on, we are physically went to all one hundred offices to deliver, to install, to troubleshoot, you know, there's no such thing as remote access. And so we've come in really we have come in roughly 40 years since nineteen eighty one. We have made a tremendous leap in terms of using technology and extension related work. Yeah, it definitely, definitely sounds like that, and if I recall, I think one of the big things with extension right now is the creation of what is known as the mydata system. Yes. Could you could you tell us just a little bit about what my data system is? In limited words, I would say it is a repository. That allow where you put in all of the information about who you serve, like the client information about their client, attaching it to the program that they participated in and its ability to have it all in one location so that any employee in theory can go in and look for their county or look to the area and see what classes were offered, what educational programs were out there, how many people participated. And ultimately, the system will allow us to attach those programs to outcome measures so that we can then write the narrative. So now so like right now, we use a couple of ways to collect stuff, and of course, if you ask anybody at any given time, you may get to two different numbers. We hope not. What you could do with my data is when we ask the question about the number, the number doesn't change. Meaning if you put it into the system, we have it captured and it doesn't change. And also is if it's not in the system, if it's not in my data, it says you didn't do it. Now someone can tell us, oh, I did that. I did know in the new world, it becomes the work you do. You document it. And so this is a one place to document the work getting done. And then you're able to eat more easily, stratify to look for the things that you're looking for. If it's about Francis, we're into all this issue around the pandemic and all depending on how things are linked together, you'll be able to pull stuff out about it or what programs where we're done in response to Colvert that before you'd have to call, you send out a message. Right now, in theory, you would you would probably have to send out a message, ask all these employees who are working in the field, then you got to get all that stuff back. Mm hmm. And reconciling. So in theory, you take out this all of this unnecessary work and and get a better product based on it being centralized and going in in the same kind of formats and all that. So when you asked a question, the question is the same. Hmm. So so it's really it is really using technology to facilitate and reduce wear and tear on the employees in terms of having to go back to those file cabinets on these laptops to find stuff. Well, how long do you think the idea for my daughter has been around? Well, it was it was just it was a date. It's always been called a database and we just named it my data. OK, but how do you have a database that's been around more than 20 years? And initially part of it had to do with the kind of equipment or application to make it happen in a part of this. And we're at a point now where we're not having a program from scratch. You're able to use a proprietary platform and build your application on top of it many, many years ago. You want to have the program from scratch, right. And have access to a mainframe and all of that to house all of what you needed to have happen, to have that data put it. You know, there's always some kind of data system because even from the military, all but the idea to make them practical and usable and user-friendly that you don't need a programmer. So with my data that the workers don't need a programmer, they don't need they don't need to understand all that because it's laid out as screens and we define things. And so you type in something if it's already and it pulls it in for you, all those kinds of things. So it takes a lot of that. Honest off of the worker and allow the system to help them. Now, yes, it takes training, any of these applications take training, but this is in my mind, easier. But again, I've been at it for a long time. I mean, it sounds like that trend towards efficiency and connectedness that we just spoke about. Yes, my dad sort of like the culmination. I mean, it's it's making things more efficient. It's, you know, increasing the impact you have with Iowa in the public, all those things. And it allows you to feed data to a number of different places to help you make sure you're in the right places. And that's really important because in my career in extension, well, I believe we've always talked about accountability, but it's really serious now because this is a tight funding. And so that is so it's not just that we want to be doing something to do it. No, we've got to be to biggest funders and policymakers are decision makers feedback and connect those dollars to people served and to not just serve, but the impact of those educational program programs. And that's true in home and family consumer, which would have been home economics in the old days, all of the program areas have the same need to top that to give back to share not only with the actual funders that might not be the U.S., but to speak to the colleges and to the universities in terms of extension's role in helping Iowa State be its best. Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean, it is so interesting because in a way, it really kind of sounds very similar to the to the things that you were speaking about just a few moments ago about what you thought was possible when you started. And it seems like my data and databases and all that is is very similar to what you thought you could envision. And, you know, I think that's pretty rare, I think, for a lot of people to to come into a job and have maybe a vision about the future and then actually see it be fulfilled. You know, there is the possibility it has taken longer than I would have hoped, but again, things have changed technologically that allowed things to be more possible. It's expensive for my dad. I don't have a clue what the cost is because I'm not on it and don't want to think about it because it's money, but it's expensive to even develop when you develop it on an existing platform. What kind of proprietary fees? The all kinds of things that go into this. And so this is a world in which there's economic association going forward, just like when we bought those first apple trees it cost. The whole setup was over 6000 miles away where, you know, if you spent six thousand dollars, you think it is going to last a long time, right? Right. We want to turn that around in under five years. And that's a non-human part of the work. So having my date is the same way going forward, if it's going to be wonderful for what we will be able to do with it, but it also carries long term obligation with it, right? And I guess that's something about extension and working with the public, as usually you can never really stand still, you always have to be moving forward. Exactly, exactly. And even when we started with computers in the 70s, in the early 80s, in many cases, extinction was ahead of its cut of its clientèle, meaning most of our clients had no access to computers. There were few people that had computers in their in their homes, but there weren't a lot of them. There were some computers in school or local schools, but not a lot of them. And now we're in a world where people can come on to our Web pages and all those kinds of things and get additional things that years ago it took mailing stuff to people getting lost in the mail and all of it. So the interaction has changed in terms of our work with our clients in which clients all have resources and which ones don't. And of course, with technology dependent, Iowa is a state that you think about infrastructure in terms of the ability to move transmission out to their places, that it's difficult for them to get access. And also there's difficulty in people having financial resources to have a computer or to have a smartphone or to have any of these tools that we in extension use to help them get to the right professional or to get to a resource that's already online or to register for programming those kinds of things. So everybody does not have full access for the next 40 years later, but that's no different than you would find all over the country. So extension in Iowa, I think, is doing amazing things. We somehow, whether we want it to or not, we've had leadership along the way that bought into the use of technology differently, but I believe overall kept us moving forward. And so we're at a point now where we have leadership that says we're going to do this database and that's what we're doing. Right. And, of course, you know, and I think, again, all along, there are people who want you to do this. Can you get this done in six months, Will? Many of these things don't happen in six months. And this this project is no different. And we will be tweaking this project for years. What even when I met with Accenture, they'll still be tweaking this application, right? Well, I guess that you that you're the extension mission never ends. Exactly. Yeah, it always has to change. And even though people think everybody has access to something, in my in my experience in extension, there are still people who who I believe can benefit from what we offer in exchange. And in my particular continent and in the families area, there are many people in this state who could benefit, I believe, from financial management activities to nutrition and wellness activities, from our family relations activities, but also any of the other areas. And there are new people who come into the states who don't have the background about what extension might be able to help them with. So we still have this need to create opportunities for people who have education, but also to go where they are. And that has not changed of being able to go be where people need you to be. Right. That is not it is not for me. It is not for me as a professional to have things easy for me. It is to have things accessible for the people who need to use it, who the people were serving. Yeah, definitely. And, you know, it makes you want to ask you, Barbara, you know what what challenges or what are the great challenges, do you think that Iowa families are facing now? I still think a big challenge in any family, whether it's an enterprise or whether it's your basic household family is a decision making process. Still is very, very important. And people have difficulty making decisions. Many people do. And so extension is not about telling you the absolute you must do X extension is about helping you process a set of learnings to see what's the best decision for you, what can you do. And and that's why it's not my value as an extension employee is the value of the person you worked with. What what do they value say to them? For example, being if if I think about finance, one might say, well, we want people to understand retirement, well, it's all in who you are in retirement is a word that is useful to you because there are some people who don't have background, they don't have jobs that other kinds of things that would allow them to think in terms of the word retirement. But they can think about financial decision making to handle themselves where they are and hopefully move forward that yes, ideally we'd like them to be thinking that they will be OK when they retire. They have resources. What really it is about helping them. With decision making, at least in Bachao families, that's important to me is that it is still a challenge. We have new families, new individuals coming of age for decision making and even young people with in places to make decisions that they don't necessarily have the tools nor the skills to do it. Mm hmm. And so it's still a challenge. You know, you've done so much to help people in Iowa throughout your career, and I'm wondering where do you see Iowa extension 40 years from now? I would say I believe it will still be valuable, but it will be valuable in using the tools and the new knowledge to help people, help people make a decision in roughly. 20, 20, 60. We could still have decisions, people still need to make decisions. We're still going to have regulations, I believe that cause us to have to make decisions that we may not be prepared to make. And if we live longer, I believe there will be a challenge of how we educate people who are living longer. In what we call non-traditional educational opportunities with nontraditional education, meaning you're not going to go in the classroom, so we're going to be looking at what does the technology offer are the kinds of things that changes how we function. So I'm expecting even in the next 10 years, I expect some changes to occur in how we deliver programming. Because there's a cost associated with one on one educational processes. Will we still have the I know I have the concept of land grant institution, at least I hope so, but how do we do it? How we configure to to work with people in the communities? I think I was going to change a lot probably in the next 40 years, just like it did before. It will. It will. And we will you know, we talk about lots of people, but that can change so quickly. All kinds of things. I just think about what what is the pandemic telling me where we in exchange have typically thought that you have to have X office technology tells me you don't have to be placed down. And we use that term back in the 90s. Why should you be placed back? As an educator. You can take the classroom with you. Exactly, exactly, and the concept of how do we interact? Is it one on one? Is it like a force? In a sense, this is a bad example. Is it like a physician? A physician works with multiple people, one on one, the physician that typically worked with you in a group? Right. My bias is that sometimes it is working one on one, that the work revolves to help that person where he or she is and not. Some group, you know what I mean, because decision to lie has to do with your connection to what your problem is and being able to talk about the things that are helpful to you from an expert or from some instructions or whatever. And I think that will continue to be important. But again, 20 years, 40 years in, we're going to have a group of younger young America's young young people who. Only now, a technologically based world. That will influence how extension needs to do its work. Yeah, that's an interesting thing to think about. You know, there's a whole generation that doesn't really know anything outside of computers. Exactly. For years we talked early on in technology, like in the late 80s, we were talking about a paperless society, not necessarily extension, but that was all the tone from the business world and all. And efficiency, a paperless world. Well, I'm looking 40 years into the future and I'm 40 years into the future. Yes, I believe some people have this paper, but there are an awful lot of people who still have a lot of paper. Right. And rules have not changed about whether or not you keep paper. You know something? My attitude is I look at and say, if you file your income tax and they have either paid you or told you all the money, they really should not be coming back asking you for any paperwork. Right. That's what paperless me means to me, is that you don't never need to ask me again because it's in the system. We know that's not true. So we have not become paperless. And I'm not sure we've got to become paperless 40 years into the future so that by the by 20, 50. I don't know that we'll be paperless. Yeah, you know, it's so hard to know what is going to be 40 years from now, but, you know, speaking to that, it makes me wonder what kind of advice would you give to somebody who's coming in to, say, extension human sciences now, somebody who's new to the field. What kind of advice, based on your experiences would you give them? One of the things I would say is that you really need to keep up to date technologically. Do you need to be able to use the tools? You also have to be able to understand where the people you are working with want to work with, where they are as what is the collective. But you more importantly need to know individuals. So if you're working with this set of family members, you need to know something about them. And there's always a confidentiality associated with it. But you need to be able to to to analyze and read. People engage in a way that you get the things that help you to verify that your approach to helping them with their issues and concerns are relative to them and not talking, generalizing, you know what I mean? I do. You really want to you want that person at least my bias is I want anyone that I work with to trust me. Because of how I relate and respond relative to them and not saying, well, you know, from. Twenty five people would do it. No, no, no, no, no. Here are suggestions specifically for you. I'm not going to tell you what the correct answer is, but what you need to be able to do is give them options and help them understand what happened, what could happen. You don't even know for sure what could happen based on the different opportunities or scenarios or opportunities that you're presenting that they have access to. And again, for me, it's knowing how. To listen, ask questions and come back and say, did I understand what you say, is this helpful and not? Yes, you may be asking yourself an expert, but in being an expert, you've got to be able to to kind of reason through and say, what is it that I'm not hearing? What is it that I don't know from this person that will help me to better serve them? That's the human side that I believe will always be there. Because as much as I believe in technology, technology is no substitute in many cases for having a human being associated with those interactions. Hmm, well, that is definitely good advice, Barbara. And I hope that I hope our new employees are. Taking heat of that kind of advice as their father and I would always have to say no, somebody other than, you know, other people, I'm an African-American female, but I need to know what happens in other family types, all the groups of people that are not African-American and female or who didn't go to college. And you don't go to the table. You cannot what you can. But I would not recommend in going in as if you know what that is. A, there are people who will tolerate that. But on the other, they will tolerate in the sense that they need something. But that doesn't engender them to you. You know, you want to. That's one thing we can say definitely about Iowa 40 years from now is those demographics are going to change. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And and, you know, I think going forward, as much as I would love for people to for us, our workers to speak different languages. I argue that you can go into an environment without speaking a language, but you have to leave arrogance at the door and you have to leave. You have to do it my way. This is the way we do it at the door. And that is difficult, I believe, for many of us as individuals. But if I have to tell a person coming in, come in, put aside who you know and what you think, learn from the people themselves. At. That's important, yeah, I would definitely agree with that, I think that's one of the things that extension Iowa extension, all the extensions I think have really excelled at is getting people out into the field to talk to people. You know, it's one thing to learn something in a classroom, but it's another thing to to put it in practice out with the public. And we're going to have so many more economic based things that I believe will influence what we'll be able to do. And certainly there could be legislation. So knowing the implications of legislation to what we do is important. And keeping up with the politics. Keeping up with the politics and also in a state like Iowa, which we believe is an agricultural state, and I don't argue with that, but we remember agriculture is a business enterprise or a commodity to me. But I always made up of people and we keep that in our we need to be thinking these are people. We'll work with people. Yes, it may be in agriculture. It may be a community development. It may be a family consumer sciences. It may be in. But fundamentally, even if they're in an enterprise, we're working with people. And people are more than numbers, people are about a lot of different things that influence what they will be willing to do, able to do and that you can truly assist them with. And we I think we have to have that kind of we can't have a cookie cutter mentality that has never been in our best interest. It is to have the open, flexible and understand you do have constraints, but there may be ways to work with people where they are. Because many people are going to take place down, right, you know, and as we've said many times in this interview, it's such a balance between technology and people. And finding that balance can't have one without the other. I think so. Going forward, it will take both. And and resources like finances will always be something sitting beneath the surface. Where do we get money to do this? What I believe is important work of helping to be the best way to make the best decisions that they can. Right. Well, Barbara, I wanted to ask you one last thing here, and that was, do you have any maybe one memorable moment from your career, something that maybe you think about a lot or something that kind of kind of keeps coming into your mind or something like that? Something over the past four years that you kind of think about sometimes. Oh, what do I think about? I think about how that how much we are different now. Well, how similar we are to what we were 40 years ago. And to know that that's a tricky thing, because if you think about it, I think some people will think we've not made progress. But being in the mix of things, I see that we've made progress in many areas to better serve people. And so I'm I'm thrilled that we've been able to use technology. I'm thrilled to know that we have become more diverse in the people that make up our organization in terms of the skill sets, the backgrounds, their ethnicities, their genders, though, they're the gender, the race. I'm thrilled to see differences in an organization that more that speak more to who makes up who makes up Iowa. And that's important going forward. But I think memorable to me will always be the progress we made we use in technology and I guess memory a real memory is the fact that as a person, female of color, majored in home economics, graduating in home economics, really working in an area that is not assigned to that gender nor that profession. I mean, I would have never dreamed that it is that concept of once in a lifetime, right? Once in a lifetime. Do you think that that young woman working in Alabama extension would see you today? If that makes sense, she wouldn't she would not have seen it. She would not have seen it. And looking back, I don't think I would have had that opportunity in Alabama to put the pieces together right. And use and to know that I did not come from the traditional agriculture background or computer science background or any engineering. But to say a word from our experience that more female dominated in our educational experience allowed me to to work with new things. In a very different way, right? Hmmm, well, Barbara, it's been a it's a it's a remarkable career, and I hope it doesn't end any time soon. Well, I've been at it for a very long time. And, you know, the thing is, I've only had one what I've only to work for one concept. My whole career, I've only worked for the Cooperative Extension Service as a professional. Wow. That is that is amazing. I didn't teach public school. I went directly from college at the end of I was almost finished with my master's into the extension service as a home economist. And I have stayed in the system in some way and I guess that would be the name of the game. Can you grow your stuff in the environment in which you're in? Because we're not going to stay with an audience, I argue, depending on an organization, unless something is strange. There's still the potential potential to redefine yourself within the context of what that organization is. Mm hmm. That's quite an impact. So I think it's possible and I think it's very possible and for me, you know, looking back, would I have. I can't see that I would have had different choices. I think a set of things that I went through allowed me to be where I am now, and it's because of being able to connect with things that matter. Yeah, those those early experiences that you mentioned at the very beginning definitely kind of carried you through and you made your own career path and we know what Marquel Journey is. It's been a wonderful experience. What I do, it, you know, coming in now says you would have to think differently than maybe when I started 40 some years ago. But it's still about helping people fundamentally, it is really about wanting to help people. And if you don't want to help people and be open to differences, you might not need to go into this business, especially on the family side. We talk about perhaps. If I'm working with a commodity, maybe I can see it differently, but we're putting my business in the human sciences part of family because that's what we're really primarily looking at human beings, right. From birth to the birth to death, and so. So you can't track that. Yeah, it's from birth to death, and you need to be even though you may not specialize in any like I'm not a child development person, I don't want to be. But on the other hand, there are all along opportunities for my content area to be important. To what extent? And says it does. And I would think so, definitely. And well, Barbara, is there anything that we haven't talked about that you think is important? What would I say, I believe, other than being in your own business extension, is one of those places where you give that, I want to say, because it's the right thing to do. Mm hmm. Well, Barbara, I think that's a good place to be to in this conversation today, and if you don't mind, could you stay on the line just for another moment? And I'm going to stop recording, but I do want to thank you for the service you've done for Iowa and extension especially. So I just want to offer at least my thanks. And I'm sure the people that listen to it would like to offer theirs, too. So I'm going to go ahead and stop this, and I'll be right back with you, Barbara. OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55901/file/130169#t=0.0,4416.375"}]}]}]}