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special evening today, I'm Jim Dupper, I'm with the committee on lectures and we're very happy to be sponsoring this event, it's a rare opportunity for us to have a fine panel of people to address an important topic of our time. I want to welcome you all and to introduce our moderator for this evening, he's a man who I met a number of years ago here and actually first heard of him when he was in Canada in the middle of his experience, that he'll maybe talk about a little bit tonight, an article that appeared in the Des Moines Register in 1976 and later was involved with the efforts, to free him from his imprisonment and to expose the truth of his story, so, I'm very privileged to introduce a friend and a man who's been working for justice for a number of years,\r\n\r\n- Well, I want to thank all of you for coming out this evening and I wanna give a special thanks, to the lectures committee at Iowa state for arranging and making possible this evening and as Jim mentioned, I believe you have a very good panel of people here who will give you a variety of ideas and views from a very unique perspective, one that many people in this country, during their lifetimes never have an opportunity to have and I think you're going to enjoy the subject matter, that they touch upon tonight and as you see there's five of us and we don't wanna run on forever and ever, so the presentations will be pretty brief but to the point and when we're done with those, then we will field questions from all of you, to the extent that we can and I guess because I'm the hometown person, I get to be the designated moderator or whatever you wanna call it and being an Iowa state graduate, I feel privileged to do that here at my own Alma mater. I wanna talk a little bit about who we are and why we are? The easiest way to do that is go back a few years, when our paths all of us, they used to cross quite frequently, traveling around the country, trying to get our individual messages out and the message about the growing menace in our society with covert actions running a muck and changes in government policies and attitudes and an idea crept in our minds that perhaps, there would be some unity in numbers, getting together, forming an organization, an association if you will and that led to the foundation of the association for responsible dissent, a couple of years ago, an acronym it was artists, it was a large group of people, we were all with diverse backgrounds but we'd all been in the national security, apparatus in one form or another and had become disenchanted with it and the way it was fooling not only the citizenry of this country but the world in general and artists evolved if you will into the present organization that we have, called the association of national security alumni, we just call it the association, that sounds kind of ominous, I know. There might be another name for it but the new association has been under reorganization for the past several months and we have a definite purpose in our program and that is basically to expose and explain the results and nature of covert activities, that go on on the domestic scene and the international scene and why they're dangerous, why they're illegal, why they're immoral and reprehensible that's our basic goal and we share this with a number of others, who cannot be here tonight but another one of our goals was to initiate a newsletter, which we have, I brought a few copies here tonight, they're Xerox because our printing of these just didn't suffice, to meet the demand, so I brought a few copies with us tonight, that we will make available on a first come first serve basis when we're done up here and the name of the newsletter is called \"Unclassified\" very original and that gives you an idea in more detail and depth of who we are and what we are and what we are trying to accomplish, so if you're interested, you can come up and pick one of these up and of course, inside with all newsletters, there's a form that you can fill out and mail, if you'd like to subscribe to the newsletter. I also have a pamphlet that is being put out, by a new organization, that's kind of on a parallel track with us, many of the members of our association, deal directly and are very deeply involved in this organization called campus watch and it is organized primarily and exclusively, to monitor CIA, FBI and NSA activities on college campuses across this country, it's a very good organization with a very definite goal and I have a few of these brochures available for all who are interested in that. And one other item, several of the members of this association, have appeared on 60 minutes and 2020 on different news, a magazine broadcast and they've written many articles and some of them have published books and tonight we do have a few copies of a book, written by one of our members, Bill Bloom, former state department employee and the name of his book is \"The CIA A Forgotten History\" and if ever you wondered, what the CIA has done over the years in all the countries, this book is just kind of a reader's guide, a tourist guide if you will from country to country and what happened in each one of those places, why and the results and we have a few of those, I believe the price is $15, so if you're interested we have some of those also. So now it's my turn, it's good to be in a campus setting, to talk about my favorite theme and that is what the CIA does on campus and why it's different today and how it's evolving in its presence and its goal, when it comes to university and college campuses because when I was a student here back in the mid sixties, during the Vietnam war, the agency didn't come to campus with big ads and through the placement office as they do now, they would comment on in a surreptitious manner, they would come under what we call false flag recruitment and they would make initial contact passing themselves off, as representatives of legitimate companies, who had a legitimate business recruiting ISU graduates and it was only after you had had the initial interviews and talked with these people, that they would then identify themselves for who they were and what their goals were but of course it was a little bit late because you would be asked to sign a document, saying that you would never reveal the nature of the unique offer they were to make to you, you know, you thought this has to be a tremendous job offer, a lot of money, this kind of thing, so naturally you sign the document, I guess, notarized right there in front of you and then they tell you where they're from and what they want and as you're sitting there flabbergasted, then they remind you that you can never, reveal the nature of that conversation, you have to live up to that document you've signed and if you don't wish to they also tell you, that your life can be made very difficult, when you get out into the world, where you have to work to make a living and should you renege on this agreement, your security clearance may be in jeopardy, a job promotion, indeed even the very job offer from a company, that's in the military industrial complex can be denied, so you're trapped there's really nothing you can do but go along for the ride and even after you listen to their spiel and you may have turned them down or you may have accepted their offer, you may have told them, well, I'm gonna think about it, you're still trapped because you cannot reveal that offer or how it was made or why to anybody, family members, friends, no one, it gives you a very isolated, lonely feeling, well, that's how they used to come to campus, they did that for a number of years, until the church committee hearings, exposed their infiltration, into the national student association, their monitoring of student activities, groups and students on the college campuses, during the late sixties under operation chaos of which I was a part on this campus and that particular operation of course was to counter the FBI's allegations, that US college students could not organize and protest the ever increasing war in Vietnam on their own, that this protest movement had to have been controlled and financed and manipulated from abroad, one time in its life the CIA did one thing proper and that was they didn't believe the FBI, president Johnson then ordered that Richard Helms, who was the director of the CIA at the time, to have his own eyes and ears on campus, to prove or disprove J Edgar Hoover's theory and hence the CIA became involved in one of its largest covert operations, within the borders of the United States at that time and it was definitely against the charter of 1947 and revised in 1948 that expressly forbade the CIA from operating within the borders of the United States, that was FBI turf. The CIA almost immediately, however, before the ink was even dry, got around that, the small domestic operations division came into being and they had a group of officers, who would debrief US citizens, who had been abroad and were returning home, maybe these people had been to a target, where the CIA had no assets or where an American citizen was not usually invited, it could have been a professor, could have been a college student but they were coming back from an area, where the agency needed information and as this person arrived at the airport in New York or Chicago or Houston or Miami, before they went through customs and immigration, they're not technically legally in the United States and the domestic contact service, this very little organization would quietly ask this person, to step into a little room, where they would then debrief them, before they were allowed to legally and officially enter the United States, thus they avoided violating the charter and from the DCS, that operation got to be so large, that it went into the domestic operations division and operation chaos grew out of that and the agency ended up being present on most major university campuses across the land and you did not know who these people were, they were your fellow students, they were professors, who had at one time or another perhaps accepted CIA monies, to carry out a program of some sort, to help write a book and publish it using CIA money but they didn't want the general public, to know who was really behind the book and they established this old boy network, across the college campuses of professors and students and whatnot, who would then identify, students who may be recruitable by the agency and this was not only US citizens, this included a lot of foreign students, who would often become trapped between these jaws, while on one hand the CIA would make them an offer, knowing that when these people graduated they would go home and become the leaders in their homelands and how many ISU grads have gone back, to become high ranking officers and governmental people in their own countries? And if they were recruited here on campus and put on the payroll here on campus, then we had an open door to their government activities, when they did go home, so the CIA would approach these people and say, you know, your student visa might be in jeopardy, if you don't accept this or they would convince them, that this was the best thing they could do, to stifle the turmoil and help their economic conditions back home, so the foreign student got caught in a vice and many were forced into this relationship, that they didn't want and all of this was done, below the surface, the CIA did not come to campus as they do today and what changed that? Well, after the church committee hearings and the relationship with the NSA was exposed, the agency decided it had to have a new image if it was going to be accepted in academia and what the president Reagan order that unleashed the CIA and the FBI to once again take up domestic surveillance and operations, I believe it was 12-333 that was the number for the first time in its history, the CIA was actually allowed to operate legally, within the United States and it has just blossomed into a very large operation and one part of that operation is the CIA's brand new program, it's been an existence a little over two years I believe and it's called the officer in residence program, this is something that all of us as association members, got involved in very heavily at the university of California Santa Barbara campus last year and what this program is, is the CIA will come to campus and they will tell the university authorities, that they are willing to send a senior CIA officer, to become a professor like teacher on the campus, the CIA will pay his salary, all of his expenses, yet the university will make room for him in the university in the political science department, give him an office access to the students and of course, in exchange the CIA officer, will benefit the students with his vast knowledge of this, that and the other. Several universities accepted this arrangement, one of them of course was the university of California, Santa Barbara, where a man by the name of George Chritton, became the officer in residence and immediately upon arriving there, he decided to teach a class to graduate students, that he would hand pick and how would he do this? Well, he would go through all of the students in the political science department or other departments, he'll go over their student files, records, history, decide if they might be recruitable or not, there might be fertile ground for his pitch or not and he would hand pick, the students who were allowed into his class, the students had no say in it and he got an isolated office up on the third floor of the administration building and he was put into that position, without the university administration seeking the advice and the consent of the faculty council or the students and when his presence and his purpose became known, of course, there was large demonstrations of students, just shut the university down and we were called as association members, to go out there several times, to help the students get this man off campus, we were successful his position was terminated and he did not return to campus this fall, why is this so dangerous? And a lot of university officials will say, that the CIA should be allowed on campus because number one, they are an official us government agency and they should have the same access, as the army or the Navy, the FBI, the IRS, whatever government agency you have but that's not the whole story is it, if you allow the CIA to come to campus as they do today with their big slick posters and whatnot and you sign up to hear their recruitment pitch and you're going to sit down and talk to them because you do not have a clearance, he cannot reveal to you classified information, he cannot tell you or she cannot tell you, the true nature of what the agency is doing not only here at home but abroad, they will not talk to you about covert actions, they will not talk to you, about destroying bridges and villages, they will not talk to you about mining harbors in Nicaragua and an undeclared war, they will not tell you, about the chemical experiments with LSD, that they carried out in university students in the fifties and the sixties, they will not tell you how they coursed foreign students, into accepting their offer of employment and of course, they will not tell you the consequences of these actions and many others. Therefore, it's the feeling of this association, at the CIA officer in residence program, should not be allowed on academia setting, if the CIA wants to recruit, they can open up an office down in the federal building, where the army has their office, the Navy, the Air force, the coast guard and all the rest of the federal agencies, they don't belong in a setting where freedom of ideas and the free flow of knowledge is paramount, that's what I came to a university for and somebody who comes contrary to that and violates this very special place, that education has does not belong. I don't believe that program, has tried to get a foothold here at Iowa State yet but I would ask that you make it known to the administration that it not be allowed and one thing that this group of campus watch does is monitor the agency where it's going and what it's doing and they advise the students, they advise faculty but the agency has moved in with this program. The results of our efforts to block this, of course have been successful on the one university setting in Santa Barbara and it's being organized in other areas, I think the agency currently has 10 officers and residents and they're trying to pass this off, like an artist in residence, a poet in residence, they want legitimacy and I don't believe it should be given to them and I guess my time is up so what I'm going to do is pass the torch to Mary Fleischer, who was a CIA employee for a number of years and gives a very unique perspective of the pearl, thank you.\r\n\r\n- I'll just make one comment on what Vern was saying, about the CIA on campus, recently, I spoke to political honors, political science honor society, at Northridge university in Los Angeles, California and found out that the head of the political science department is a CIA employee, works with CIA, I thought that was pretty shocking, I wonder what kind of view they get, all of the people in the political science department from having this type of person, as head of the political science department in university, I think it there's a big, big danger in that. When I got into town Vern said, have you seen this ad in your paper in the LA times? And I said, I didn't notice it but I didn't look in this particular section, I thought it was really interesting, I don't know, did you see it, the ad for Des Moines Register? It was last Wednesday, it says, Sunder secretarial, that's central intelligence agency support the CIA. You can too find diversity, professional satisfaction, excitement and a personal role in supporting America's security, there are a few jobs anywhere, that can offer you the challenge and rewards that are yours, when you join the central intelligence agency, we need talented men and women, who take pride in doing work that matters, opportunities are available now in the Washington DC, Northern Virginia area, positions are available for secretaries and clerk typist, all decisions require US citizenship and the personal integrity, needed to successfully complete medical and security processing, including polygraph interview, additionally, you must have a high school diploma or GED. Well, I joined CIA when I was 18 years old, I was working for the VA and I was recruited by the IBM repairman, he said, you're here working for the veterans administration, he says, why don't you go to work for CIA, that's the Cadillac of agencies? And he said, it's much more exciting, a much higher-class of people there, they are very intelligent and they say that, you have to have an IQ of over 125 in order to even, you know, be hired by them, you'll meet some very exciting people and you'll have a lot of fun and you'll start at a higher grade, you should do it, so I said, okay, so he talked to the personnel, a person over there who's a typewriter, he also repaired, I was recruited in a unique way and I talked to her and I was very excited about it when I had the interview, you know, she told me now we are considering you, so you can't tell anyone that you've had this interview and you will be investigated, you know, for a number of months before we can let you know, whether you're going to be accepted, while they did it was at that time, I don't know if it still happens this way but at that time, the FBI did the investigating and they came into my neighborhood and they talked to all my neighbors and to some friends and my mother came to me one day about two months later, just in tears and she said, you'll have to tell me what kind of trouble you're in and I said, I'm not in any trouble, you know, I'm not doing anything and she said, well, all the neighbors say, that you were under investigation by the FBI and you must be doing something really awful and they're giving me their sympathy and they wanna know too, you know, what are doing. Well, I wasn't supposed to tell my mother, I did, I said, look it's not anything not a big deal, I applied you know, for CIA, I guess that's what they're doing, they must be investigating me. I thought it was really exciting when I was accepted, I felt like it must be really wonderful, they tell you in the initial indoctrination, that you are the cream of the crop and that you are selected from a very, very select group of people and that having been accepted, it means that you are really very a superior person and I wanted to believe that, I think all of us wanna believe that sort of thing and I thought it was exciting, I started as a secretary, after a couple of years, they discovered that I had a talent for finding publications that were hard to find, things that you don't find from the book of the month club, like poisons that are undetectable and that mimic a heart attack and that sort of thing and I had a knack for that so that became my job there, I did question a lot of the foreign divisions, which is his orders I feel, some of the things that they wanted, they wanted publications on like explosives, you know, where you place it to blow up a bridge and chemical warfare and plagues and what sorts of things, how you can start diseases and I thought that was a rather strange thing for our agency to do and that concerned me, I think probably what concerned me the most and what was probably the turning point, although I didn't realize it maybe at the time because I continued working for the agency for several months after this, was a report came across my desk and it was for the men that worked for my supervisor, it was marked eyes at top secret eyes only, while I didn't pay too much attention to that, I opened his mail, so I opened I read it and it was a report on a very successful operation, that one of our foreign divisions had accomplished, where they had blown up a bridge in some country who's name I don't recall it was in Asia and 30 women and children were killed and many more were injured and he was very proud of that fact, when my boss came and I said, I don't understand this, I mean, we're not at war in that country, I said, I don't understand why this is and he said, that's the fortunes of war, I said but we're not at war in their country, these women and children were innocent, they're not fighting us, they haven't done anything to us, I don't really understand this, this seems very wrong to me, they told me I was very young and that when I got older, I would understand these things a little bit more, I was just very unsophisticated and very naive. It's been many, many years since that time and I still don't understand that, I still have a lot of problems with that. Also, I thought that it would be really exciting, I dated a lot of the operatives and people who were in training to go to other countries and be case officers and what some people call spies and I found them, you know, exciting today but distant certainly and many of them I'd never didn't know their real names, I knew the names, they weren't allowed to tell me, what their history was, you know, what their family background was, they didn't tell me too much about that because they really weren't supposed to, I fell in love with this man, who was just absolutely gorgeous, his specialty was listening devices, while I was working there, I knew that he was gonna be bugging the Russian Embassy, I thought that was really exciting, even though I didn't think that that was really according, to what we were allowed to do, that was not our diplomatic function I thought but I thought it was pretty exciting, I guess it was lust at first sight and we got married and we went to Japan, where he went and traveled all over the far East, doing the kinds of things that he did and I resigned from the agency myself and became a housewife in Oklahoma, Japan, seemed to me like it would be, the most exciting time of my life, it turned out to be, probably the most painful period of my life, he would be gone, he would suddenly not come home from work, I was not allowed to have a telephone at that time, I'm sure that's changed a lot now, things have changed a great deal since that time but at that time we didn't have a telephone, they said either they were too expensive or they were hard to get, they just didn't want us to have one, even if we had he couldn't have contacted me because of the nature of his work, he always traveled under an alias and I was not allowed to know when he was leaving, where he was going or when he was going to return and sometimes he'd be gone a few days and sometimes it would be a few weeks, someone would come to my house and say John's not gonna be home tonight, he's on a mission and I would always ask when will he be home? And they would always say, we can't tell you that, even if we knew and while I was there I became pregnant and I was so excited I wanted to tell him, it was two weeks before I could even let him know, that we were expecting a child, it was extremely lonely, relationships are not always easy anyway, I think all of us know we've ever had them and we all have and he didn't tell me what he was doing because it was need to know basis and I didn't need to know and I was no longer in the agency anyway and so I never knew basically what he did because I'd worked in his department at one time but I didn't know where he was or what he was doing and it was a very difficult life, there were very few things we could talk about, when you work for the agency, you don't have friends on the outside, especially if you were in the covered part of the agency, maybe in the over if you can but in the cover section you can't, first of all, you can't tell anyone where you work, you have to make up a story, as to where you work and what you do, people would say, what does your husband do? And I was always stumped for an answer and other people would say, you know, my husband's a doctor, he used such and such today and he's been in Korea and so forth and I couldn't say anything, so, I never had friends in the outside, carrying on a conversation was just too difficult, so we all had friends in the agency, then you become very insulated because you're only friends are other CIA employees or their dependents and that was the way my life was in Japan, it was probably the most miserable time, I've ever had in my life, the marriage didn't last, many marriages don't in the agency, as with the military there is a great deal of drinking because there's a great deal of pressure and you don't drink around other people, so again, you are just associating with other people, who are working for the company and it's not at all what I thought it would be, it was something that has changed my life forever, I will always be affected by the fact, that I once worked there was once clear through top secret because now I've been writing a script and every word that I write must be sent to CIA because my script has to do with CIA, even though it's fiction, I've had a lot of correspondence and even long distance phone calls with people in the publications review board because I said, I don't understand, why I have to send everything to you, when I have asked for my freedom of information act, I guess it's called the privacy act at CIA and you've written to me and you've said, you have absolutely nothing on me, you're not giving me any kind of report on myself, which I know you have to have because there's got to at least be a personnel report on me and it has to be something from the time that you investigated me and yet you're saying I have to send everything, I couldn't have it typed I had to type it myself, I couldn't let anyone see it until I sent it to them, every time I change anything I have to send that to them and if I don't I mean, I'm sure that there are criminal penalties as well but the main thing that they do to you is that if I were to sell that script and say it was successful I would get nothing for it, they would take all of my profits, which they have done to several members of our organization. Anyway, I love talking to people who have, just been talked to by someone, that would do it by a CIA recruiter, I really love to come to the universities and colleges and talk to them because when I tell them, that this is the kind of life that you have, you can never join the peace Corps, there are a lot of things that you can never do and there are a lot of things that you are censored for the rest of your life in certain areas, they're really astounded by that, it's something that you would think everyone knows but they don't and I would like for everyone to be aware, whenever they consider working for the agency or marrying someone who works for the agency, that they think about what are the ramifications of this? And think again before they actually join, thank you.\r\n\r\n- The next presenter is Mr. Jack Ryan, FBI agent, 21 and a half years, fired for refusing to investigate, peace activists under the domestic terrorists guidelines.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, thank you, I'm happy to be here again and I say again, I was here a year ago today in this same room talking to a group, Yogi Berra says, it's like deja vu all over again. I was an FBI agent 21 and a half years and fired two years ago this month, September for refusing to investigate, a couple of peace groups as terrorists and to me it was very blatant case of the FBI using, the tool of investigation to quell dissent, very plain and simple I felt, I challenged what I saw in front of me and I paid the price but I'd like to say a bit, about my experience with the FBI, I came in 1960 when J Edgar Hoover was very strong still in command and span the years of his death and the demise of much of what I believe now he represented and if you look back he was pretty much the self appointed but confirmed by many in our country, the guardian of the morals of the United States and pretty much the definer of these morals, I came in, I've been a policeman and I figured that was the background, that got me into the FBI but before that I had been in seminary, studying to be a priest, very soon I realized when I looked around me, that that's probably why I was picked, many, many ex seminarians divinity students in the FBI, especially when I came in, just about everybody had some strong religious background, the Irish Catholic was the predominant on the East coast and the Midwest these Southern Baptist down South and the West coast Mormon, you know, this was the backbone of Hoover's FBI, these were the type of people he liked and he relied on and they gave him what he wanted, I look back to myself, I consider myself a very true patriotic, loyal American Barry Goldwater conservative and if pointed to a wall and told to drive my head through the wall, I would try. Some interesting things occurred and you know, that I saw in this old FBI and I saw and didn't flinch, I guess this is the way it's supposed to be but many of the things I did and the FBI did, I soon realized, you know, were purely, you know, where do you wanna use phony means good work, the number one word was our image, don't embarrass the bureau and we have a fantastic image, you know, a few people, most people thought all FBI agents were lawyers, I was not a lawyer and I would guess maybe 5% of the agents were when I came in and still, yeah, even on paper it said, you had to be a lawyer or an accountant, this was part of the image, Congress thought we were all lawyers and nobody in the FBI complained because we got a higher starting salary, than any other federal law enforcement agency, great. Statistics this was the lifeblood of the FBI and every year J Edgar Hoover went to Congress and showed Congress that we out did last year in our convictions our savings and the fines we collected, we could show the public that we gave back to the public, more than we took in our budget and every year we out did this, you know, there's some fantastic gymnastics going on, to come up with these figures but we always did it and I looked around and what did we do? We investigated kids for stealing cars, this was just about all we did when I first came in the FBI and a little distinction, really stealing a ride not a car, there's a distinction and the police would catch the kid, we would come in and review their reports, write up our own report take it through the federal system, we'd also call the owner of that car, whether the car was back in their possession or not and notify them and then put down we recovered that car and then we'd get our little used car book and claim the high book value on that car and this is how we existed, I saw a statistic at one time, it shocked me but you know I just shrugged, it's a good living, 65% of federal prisoners were car thieves, this is back in the late sixties, you know, I didn't dare ask that question is this all we do? But a lot of police officers said this but then the courts closed us down there, they got a little upset with this and they caught on and luckily a beautiful thing happened the Vietnam war, while we got the draft dodgers, this was our statistical bread and butter and of course, when that went down, we got into organized crime in a statistical way, we went after the bookies, you know, the criticism right now, the FBI is finally into drugs, you know, are they doing the same thing, going after the street people, that give the beautiful statistics, the numbers, you know, just like the little story of the box score after the game, you know, a base hit whether it's a little dribbler, through the infield or a line drive off the wall, it's still a you know a base hit and that's the way we looked at our statistics, a mafia boss was no different, than a kid stealing cars of big one but some things changed, you know, to be very brief the Watergate, you know, what a shock that was and right after that or during that time, J Edgar Hoover died and this change occurred and there was no stopping it, we got some guidelines slapped on us, we didn't like this, are we being handcuffed and what the guidelines said and they're absurd when you look at what they said but I mean, this was one of the most shocking points of my career, the FBI can no longer investigate a person or a group of people, unless we think they're violating a federal law. Now, we can't work anymore but we survived and this was interesting because all of a sudden and it wasn't all of a sudden but gradually and I was working organized crime at the time, we got better, incredibly better, we had to actually work real cases and go after real criminals for the reason, that we are supposed to go after them, you know, they're violating laws and we found out, all the guys we can actually arrest, convict these people, well, to be brief, the results the FBI didn't just organize crime, just say the past five years, we can go back 10 years, eight years, outstripped just geometrically, anything the FBI ever did in its previous 50 years up to that point, it was just incredibly what the FBI has done, by having to obey the rules and using the God-given talents, that the agents found out they had and a tremendous amount of pride came in the agency for this reason and in the old days, we went after the bank robber, well, that went back to the John Dillinger, the FBI 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And the point I wish to make, and this is the overall point that we're here to talk about tonight. And that's what's happening today with the Bush administration. And I'll say it from an FBI standpoint, is the FBI going back to the old J Edgar Hoover days where we're using the tool of investigation to harass, to quell dissent and it works, it works. If anybody here has been the target of an investigation, fair or unfair, there's a devastating effect. You know, as Mary said, somebody knocking on her neighbor's doors, asking questions. Most people I talked to, as an agent, was talking to the first FBI agent they'd ever talked to. And they know this, it can be devastating. And to use this tool and scrupulously against people, it is a devastating tool and a way to control or quell dissent to make people back off. And is it happening again today? The evidence seems to be that it is. It is what got me fired. I saw and I was claiming though the FBI isn't. We've got guidelines, we've got a very strong director, William Webster, that is not letting the FBI do this. I had a quote a few days before the incident that I end up getting fired over where Webster was specifically asked that question and he denied it. \"No, the FBI is not using investigation as a tool. Is not getting political again. I found a piece of paper in front of me that said exactly that they are. And to operate on illegal, immoral foreign policy, we found out and we found out bitterly through the whole Watergate affair that the United States public will not let our country get away with this. So the choice is stop or continue and do something about it. And it seems all the fingers are pointing that this is happening again. But the point I wish to make is it's happening within the FBI. If the FBI is being used for this, today it's an extremely competent FBI, whereas at the time it was happening before it was not. And I find this right. I'll stop here.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] The next presenter is Dr. David McMichael, who heads the Washington office of our association.\r\n\r\n- [David] Thanks very much Burne. And so many themes have come up with the previous presenters. You know all things that we have dealt with and become very concerned about and have all experienced in one fashion or another. I think Burne's comments about especially our work dealing with the CIA on campus. And he really got to the heart of it. I wish to reiterate it. And the one argument that I bring to university administrators, especially as I deal with these matters and help out with campus watch as we all do. And this is this, and it's the simplest thing in the world, it would seem to me to address the university community. The heart of the university enterprise is the search for truth. There's hardly a university coat of arms that does not have the word Veritas in it somewhere. That does not translate out by the way as plausible denial. The point, regardless of how well qualified a Central Intelligence Officer may or may not be in his special field is precisely this. The academic enterprise, the academic discourse, requires the free and open exchange of ideas, full debate and it is necessary in this, in the academic setting for those participating to bring forth fully their sources and methods and their documentation. All of this is prohibited to the serving CIA officer. He cannot take part in the academic enterprise. It's that simple. It has nothing to do with his moral qualification. It has nothing to do with the moral or ethical aspect of the Central Intelligence Agency or it's activities. It's just plainly and simply the fact, he is disqualified by the oath he takes, serving in the Central Intelligence Agency to function as a member of the academic enterprise. Please inform your department heads, your administrators about that. I have a former colleague who I believe is on your faculty now, and maybe some of you know him, I don't want to talk about him at the moment, but we may later. Now, what I've-- What I've been asked to deal with here is a general topic. I think that we're trying to deal with this meeting and right now facing our organization, it's to look at the future of covert operations during this Bush administration, as you know, the center of our own particular enterprise protested against the use of covert operations. We do this basically for two reasons. One, is the fact that you cannot run an efficient and useful intelligence operation and at the same time engage in covert operations. We know from our own experience that once you begin in the covert operation, the operational tail begins to wag the intelligence dog. As Colonel North informed, a perhaps not too surprised, joint panel of congressmen and senators, two years ago, \"Covert operations are all lies, Senator,\" he said. Well, that's what it is. And I've gone through the whole set of the North trial defense documents. And if you want the see astonishing matter, that was being passed to the highest decision makers in our country regarding the enterprise in Central America, something about which I knew a very great deal. Pure and absolute lies being told, not to confuse the putative enemy, you see. And in this case, not even to confuse an occurring support from a too often credulous United States public. And I might say a two often spinalis United States Congress. But the highest decision makers in the government of the United States, in order to continue an enterprise, which plainly was failing a bad proposition. Secondly, of course, as Clark Clifford, the man who in fact wrote the National Security act of 1947, which established the CIA stated in front of the Senate premise select committee on intelligence during his hearings in December 15th, 1987, I think I've got the details, correct by now, recommending that covert operations be abandoned altogether. Because in 40 years of observation of same, he had come to the conclusion that they were counterproductive to the National Security of the United States. It's an opinion which the members of our association share. That being said, I want to look a little bit and take time with a short analysis, I think of what we can expect during this Bush administration, because for the first time the President of the United States is a former director of Central Intelligence. In fact, he was during his admittedly brief tenure as director, which was in December 75 to January 76, charged with and successfully carried up task of defending and protecting on Capitol Hill, a Central Intelligence Agency, and particularly a Central Intelligence Agency operations division, which had been severely damaged by the revelations, first of Watergate, and then the congressmen Otis Pike and Senator Frank Church investigations of both the domestic and foreign abuses over the years. Not of course to mention the flood of inside accounts beginning with Victor Marchetti and John Marks, the CIA and the Colts Intelligence published in 1973, Retired air force Colonel Fletcher Prouty is the secret team published in 1973, also. And shortly after that, our colleague Philip Ages a company diary while George Herbert Walker Bush may have had, and probably did have CIA connections going back to the 1950s and 1960s when he was in private offshore oil operations. He's certainly no intelligence professional. Yet in gratitude for his services, the Association of Former Intelligence Officers AFIO, not of course to be confused with the Association of National Security alumni. Easily because they've got money and we don't. AFIO mobilized it's support for Mr. Bush's presidential bid in 1980 and again came out for him in 1988. His reliance on former CIA operations officer, Donald Gregg, as his Vice Presidential National Security advisor. And subsequently of course, is a selection of Mr. Gregg to become the United States ambassador to South Korea. And also having previously relied on the Naval intelligence veteran admiral Dan Murphy, not to mention his own membership in the Yale secret society, skull and bones. Which since the 1940s has sent its alumni in significant numbers into the intelligence operations field. I might even know here by the way that the democratic Senator David Boren of Oklahoma, who is the current chairman of the Senate select committee on intelligence is the chairman of the Senate. As I say, is also a skull and bones man. And of course, on the other hand, Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, usually seen as anti-covert operations is also a skull and bones man. So what we can make of this, I don't know, but I do like to be conspiratorial from time to time. In any case all this merely indicates if any, that president Bush like many chief executives, is at least a CIA buff and a covert operations fan. As Victor Marchetti once pointed out no matter how appalled the Presidential candidate may be, by revelations of miss deeds by the CIA. Sooner or later he comes to realize, \"Hey, it's my CIA, so it's not too much interest there.\" But rather interestingly, to follow this a little bit, Theodore Shackley the retired former deputy director of operations, a man often considered a sinister and key secret government or secret team operator and certainly a tireless campaigner for an active covert operations policy, wrote a very interesting book in 1980 called, 'The Third Option' financed by the way by William Casey then in his private capacity, was an ode to covert operations recommending their use. I know that Shackley did meet at least once with George Bush, and kind of bunk port during the 1980 campaign. Now how close Bush himself was, the so-called 'October Surprises Fair' of 1980 in which it is alleged that the then Vice Presidential candidate, took part directly in a plot to subvert Carter diplomacy to return US hostages held in Iran by secretly promising Iranian agents the delivery of United States weapons in return for continuing to hold the hostages in order to ensure an election victory over Carter is a matter of debate. Likewise, we do not know for certain what role Mr. Bush played or what knowledge he had at the Iran Contra affair, despite his personal contacts with such key players as Felix Rodriguez and Panama's general, Manuel Antonio Noriega. Perhaps the trial of Admiral Poindexter will advance our knowledge on these points. I hope it will, perhaps it won't. However, even if one argues that Mr. Bush had a past part in and even a predilection for covert operations, it's also important to note that the same AFIO supporters, such as Miles Copeland, who worked for Bush's campaign in 1988 also agitated for the replacement of William Webster, the former federal judge and FBI director who had succeeded the late William Casey as CIA director on the grounds that Webster was opposed to covert operations and in fact, had punished or failed to protect key CIA officers involved in the Iran-Contra scandal. People like Duane Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George and Tomas Castillo also known as Joe Fernandez, to name a few. Now Bush of course retained Webster as the director. On the other hand, according to one former middle level CIA operations officer in communication, Webster recently told a gathering of retired officers, that the best days for covert operations were yet to come. Now, this has been partly confirmed to me by another and much higher ranking CIA officer. And wants you to also note that despite the depth and intensity, of the Iran-Contra scandal, there seems to have been a little will or intent in the Congress to put restraints either on the CIA per se or, and far more importantly, on the president's power to carry out covert operations. Now this despite public warnings from such respectable establishment figures with long national security experience, such as the aforementioned Clark Clifford, the former director of central intelligence, William S Colby and retired CIA and state department officer, Arthur Macy Cox, that covert operations are in fact counterproductive. Congress has refused to make even the slightest of reforms. Indeed the speed with which the intelligence community and it's supporters were able to move in dispatching or at least helping to dispatch their most powerful critic in Congress, former speaker, Jim Wright has put the fear of God or the fear of something in the rest of them, not the hardest thing to do by the way. So there's a mixed set of signals in Washington at least about covert operations future. I should mention here, of course in a very important development of the Reagan years and now institutionalized in a number of ways, one of which Jack Ryan just touched upon and another institution, most importantly of them all, I believe the misnamed and misbegotten national endowment for democracy, God help us. The United States has more and more undertaken overtly. Many of both the political and paramilitary activities the CIA once did covertly. Plausible denial has been replaced in many cases by a rather brazen, so what? In my final few minutes I want to consider the international review in which covert or clandestine operations are carried out. For most of the past 45 years, the rationale has been the cold war with the Soviet union the identifiable and inexorable enemy. Now in an era of Glasnost and Perestroika of open skies and open border inspections, much of the rationale for the expressed, at least in terms of threat to the United States national security, however illogical and unsustainable that rationale was and is, no longer exists. Well, a lot of people say it's time to go on with the tent, mutually to askew with the Soviet regional conflicts. That is the military and paramilitary and subversive political operations designed to gain points in the global game in the third world. Well, so say some urging further moves toward the time even on time with the Soviet union in areas of contention. Proponents point to the Soviet troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, the negotiation of the Angolan settlement, the withdrawal of Vietnamese troops from Cambodia. All of these is concrete evidence of Soviet willingness to end the covert competition in the third world and the urge matching constraint on the part of the United States in order to allow an type to grow from current the time between the Soviet union and the United States. Then we can get on with the great problems that our world is facing. The environment, new concepts of development in a world increasingly marked by stark and ever-widening distances between rich and poor between North and South and with the full impact of the population crisis facing us, all of these things having to be me. Others, traditionalist and triumphalist draw the opposite conclusion. \"We've won!\" they say. \"The cold war is over and we've won !\" With state communism in the Soviet union, state socialism, ,communism if you will, defeated. Now is the time to press our advantage to the maximum in Eastern Europe and Africa, keep arming and supporting UNITA in Angola, now that the Cubans are gone. Likewise in Cambodia, keep arming the exile opposition, even if it is dominated by the Khmer Rouge and support them in their effort to overthrow the known pen communist regime. Likewise re-double efforts in Central America and against Cuba. Restore or establish the fullest measure of USAA Germany and rub guava trust nose in it. And covert operations are to be a key part in all of it. This is of course the maximum program of the ideological right wing in the US, an important part of the Republican constituency, much of it suspicious of Bush, after all he hasn't yet pardoned their hero ,Ali, to which Bush must in some way respond. It also includes numerous Scoop Jackson styles, so-called Kennedy Liberal Democrats, such as Steven Solack of New York, for example, who was a leading proponent of arms for both Savimbi and the Cambodian opposition, not to mention the ubiquitous Israeli lobby. And while they undoubtedly exists within the CIA itself as in the Pentagon, activist pro covert operations forces. My best guess is that these are probably less strong and less rabid than one might think. Although John le Carre's, excellent novel, 'The Russia house', tends to conclude otherwise. Another restraining factor and not the least important one I'll mention to you is the budget. Our federal government is almost broke. Read my lips. Adventurous rhetoric is cheap. Clandestine operations are expensive. You have any idea what the failed eight years of aggression, covert aggression, although openly voted by our Congress against Nicaragua, a pitifully poor country of 3 million souls has cost us? I put the figure now at approaching two billions of dollars. Had to come from somewhere, probably your grandchildren. This situation, I believe, will limit what will in fact be done. And not only the budget situation that we face in the country, but the new character of the global economy, that makes the multinational corporations most reluctant to support purely nationalistic adventures in the name of some ideology. In conclusion then, I'm cautiously optimistic that despite the big talk of the covert operators and the pressure of those who argue for taking full advantage of the apparent Soviet withdrawal and identifying US covert operations in the third world, intensifying US covert operation in the third world, despite the ongoing operations in central America, particularly against Nicaragua and the developing activities against the Noriega regime in Panama, and of course the new narco terrorists justification for intervention, almost everywhere, and the activities in Angola in Cambodia, we will, I hope, see a certain restraint, at least certainly a less pathologically obsessive resort to covert operations activities than we saw during the Reagan years. A final word on that point, public pressure against an opposition to these clandestine activities remains crucial. Please don't let up because we are not. Thanks very much.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] Our final speaker, this evening, Connor Fell Rodinger has a very colorful history. He was in the CIA before most of us had ever heard of it, and was part of the team that helped topple the government in Guatemala in 1954. And he is now the president of our association, Colonel\r\n\r\n- [Colonel] Well, I do go back a long way, as Bernie had said. I was recruited by the CIA when I was only 43 years old, back in the 90's, but that's 40 years ago. I was very excited like most of us were in those days of being recruited to this secret organization that almost nobody in the United States knew about in those days. Nobody knew about it. And that was the way we wanted it in those days. I remember very well after the Guatemala thing, I came back to headquarters in Washington, and I remember seeing this gorgeous person that we have over here, young secretary wandering around the halls . She says she remembers me too, I don't know. But I want to talk to you a little bit about what happened to me and why I'm here tonight. As has been said, I was involved, I was one of the officers that was sent down to Central America to overthrow the illegally elected, democratically organized government. Now, this is a failure of democracy. Here's this great democracy of ours, which would not tolerate the development of an independent democracy in Central America and exactly what happened. The Guatemalans had their revolution back in 1944 and established a new country. Took back their country from the Gemini, the United States. Now our great democracy, overthrew and destroyed a democracy. The first real democracy in Central America. And we couldn't tolerate, we overthrew it. Now, I didn't think much about that at the time because I was told that it was a communist country. Anytime we wanted to do something bad and in other parts of the world, the third world we bring up this business about communism. Well, there was no communism in the government of Guatemala in those days. But I had this idea. We were all anticommunist though, and those were the McCarthy days and so forth. So I thought it was just great to go down there and overthrow a communist government. Now after that, I got involved in other things and didn't think much about what was going on and the effects of overthrowing that government. We installed our own president. We installed him, nobody elected him. We installed him in the country, forced him upon the Guatemalans and the elected president fled the country to Mexico. Well, things began to happen, all the things that the democratic government had instituted all reforms that had been instituted were overthrown. And I didn't hear much about it 'cause I was much involved in other things but you can imagine the anguish and the outrage that overtook me in later years when I learned what the effects of our action in that country had been. I learned later that a series of repressive dictatorships had overcome that country. Military dictatorships that are going on even today, they have a civilian president now, but he has to be very careful not to confront the army or they'll throw him out. I guarantee it. And when I learned that the action that we did it back in 1954, has now caused the death of over 100,000 Guatemalans. You can imagine the anguish and the outrage that overtook me and the outrageous proceeding to this day when I see what we're doing in Central America. I've been to Nicaragua now 11 times, and I've seen what you and I have been doing to that country. And that's the reason I stand before you tonight. And that's the reason I'm involved with our organization. And we are dedicated to working as hard as we can to prevent this kind of thing happening in the future. It's a tough fight, because the American people have been deluged with all sorts of misinformation about what we are doing and what we should be doing. So we organized, as been said, we organized this group that we have now. It's a small group, we're poor, but we are dedicated. We are going to do everything we can to stop this covert action, which we know from long experience has not only embarrassed the United States, has caused the United States to become involved in killing, torturing, burning, all sorts of things all over the world. And you can imagine, and if you read Bill Bloom's book, you'll find out what the CIA and the United States government, why say CIA, it's the United States government, the President of the United States and the national security council have done ever since world war II. It's an incredibly bad picture of what we as a country, you and I, have been doing all this time. So we want you people to get involved as much as you can to prevent this continuing in the Bush administration which has every possibility of doing. Now, we don't have much more time here, but I do want to tell you that we have an office now in Washington, DC, my eloquent colleague, David McMichael is the director of the office and in Washington DC. But we, we need help. We need help from your people. And we think we can get it from you because we know what kind of people you are. You wouldn't be here tonight. If you weren't interested in changing the policy of our government, forcing the Bush administration to behave itself, to give up this idea of overthrowing governments, destroying democratic experiments in the world, we've got to stop this. And I think with your help and the help of other folks that I've talked to over the the last couple of years, I think we can do it. Incidentally, I was here in Iowa a year and a half ago and I was talking at Mason city, and after the lecture, a woman came up to me and said, it was at a university group also, I forget what it was. This woman came up said, \"Oh, I wish you could talk to my son.\" And I said, \"What's the matter with your son?\" She says, \"Well he was selected by the CIA, one of the recruitment they had up here and he passed all of these tests but for some reason or other, and we can't understand it, he failed the polygraph test, the lie detector test. And he's just absolutely crushed.\" I said, \"You go home and tell your son he won the lottery!\" That's the best thing that ever happened to him. The best thing that ever happened to him because of he had gone into the CIA, as Mary Fleisher has told us his life would never be the same, and my life has never been the same. My family life was upset, even today after I left the CIA many years ago and I live a little town in Mexico that it has a very primitive phone system. There's nobody there that speaks in English and the phone company whatsoever. And the other day, not too long ago, the phone rang at six o'clock in the morning. And I answered it and said, this is the operator. I'm just checking the line, sorry to bother you. And hung up in English. Here I am in the middle of Mexico, and they pulled the crudest phone tapper ever. I used to teach, well I'm not supposed to say it, but I used to teach how to tap phones. When I tapped the phone, nobody knew about it, but this is, this is really proof. But I point this out to say that my life will never be the same. My children, and going to school the other kids would say, \"What does your daddy do?\" \"Well, we don't know. My daddy won't tell us what he does.\" \"What do you mean? Everybody knows what their daddy does!\" \"Well, my daddy doesn't say anything about it.\" So they go home and tell her father, you know, \"Little Alan Redinger doesn't know what he's daddy does.\" And so he's, \"Well, we know daddy.that we know what he does. And he's a spook, see.\" Well this upsets and it upset my children very much. They finally got over it, but they got over me too. My son told me the other day, \"Dad, I think you're maturing.\" But I want to make that point clear and you should tell your young people, for heaven sake don't get involved in this thing. It's a terrible, completely anti-American antidemocratic thing. This is an organization, the people of the United States have no control of it, whatsoever. Congress doesn't have a control of it. If they take people from CIA testify and tell lies because the whole theory of the CIA is the lie. So you can not depend on them. So I'd like to have you think about our organization and give us a hand if you can. I hate to ask for money, but we need money. We have to run an office. We have to put out our newsletter, which is very interesting. I hope some of you will get to see it And we need us all the support we can get and we know that the American people upon learning what we're trying to do, will support us. And I thank you very much for coming.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] What we'll do now, is first thank you for sitting here this long hour and listening to us but I know you probably have a lot of questions and we're going to fill as many of those as we can for the next few minutes. And what I'd like to have you do, If you have a question is, raise your hand and I'll select you and stand up and tell us who you're addressing your question to. And then that person will respond. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- [Man 1] I have a question. And also how do you screen your membership? Do you accept everybody or do you have to .\r\n\r\n- [Burne] Well, that's a loaded question there. His question was, do we feel that the CIA, and the national security agency has noticed this and what are the reactions to the existence of this association? And secondly, how do we screen people who come to us and say, \"I was FBI, I was CIA, I was NSA, and I share your goal, the goal of the association.\" How do we screen those people? And just very briefly, I can say that certainly the CIA has taken notice of us. We have debated, there are people on college campuses. We have caused them to be dismissed from university positions. In fact I extended an invitation to Arthur Hulnick, who is the academic affairs coordinator of the CIA, with whom I've shared a podium or two, to be here tonight. And I told him if he showed up we would give him a spot on the panel. And I don't see you, Arthur. Where are you? They certainly know about us. And each one of the panel members could give you experiences of what's happened since this association gelled and started to make waves and became noticed, not just by the CIA but by college and university crowds across the nation. They do know we're here. And we're a force that they're going to have to deal with in the future. As far as the second part of your question, how do we screen members? I'll defer that to whoever wants to take that.\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] Yeah, One of the things that's most important way we operated is our AoR newsletter is unclassified. And we signed our formal on schoolwork. And for that reason, we try to operate on the open book basis. There's nothing that we do that we're having to conceal anybody. So in that sense, but rather difficult to penetrate. Now, it is of course not only possible, but probable and eventually inevitable because it's happened at all organizations like our own. That if the the powers that be should pass, let's say from a policy of malign neglect to an active policy towards us, that they will in fact, bring the bull in and the tactics are well-known and we've ever been in an activist group. Almost any persuasion can recognize this right away. People attempt to be disruptive of the organization, We will recommend policies in the organization, which, you know, goes towards illegal or confrontational activities that are designed for a purpose. And then most of us, I feel at least that we're experienced enough to recognize this and frankly do not have either the time and the resources to engage in a screening activity. If we were both operating covertly, that'd be something else again. We'd have to do that.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] On the back.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] Did you all hear that question? Now his question was, to what extent does the media in the United States reveal the truth to the public and who would like to feel that one? David?\r\n\r\n- [David] Well I have, in my hand a little monograph from the organization with which may we maintain a corresponding relationship and for which I'm engaged in a project in Nicaragua currently by the way, in monitoring the election there and this organization is the Institute for Media Analysis. The author of the monograph is a very good friend of mine named Edgar Edgar is the name of the monograph is called, 'Packaging the conference- The case of CIA disinformation. Now Edgar served for over two years as the director of communications for the the Contra organization And eventually left that organization in mid 1984 over his disagreement with the espousal vital force of terrorist costs and has subsequently come to be very important witness on how these things are done. I recommend this little book which will soon be reissued to you, and I'll make sure some copies get out here to Iowa state. And you get some idea of how these things are done. And to answer the question of how these are received in the mainstream media, I recommend you certainly the studies of men like Edward Herrmann, Noam Chomsky, book manufacturing consent, the more careful analysis of the United States press by Ben Bagdikian of the journalism school, the University of California. And the answer is that the major media in the United States is of course, a major medium of transmission, of the official point of view. The press in many ways does a fairly good job of examining the premises in the arguments put forward by the administration in these areas. But by and large, they tend to accept it. You see when President Ronald Reagan used to get on, make a public statement declaring that the Nicaraguan government was this, that or the other thing, it was carrying out certain activities. As a matter of fact, justifying the Contra war, the aggression against Nicaragua on the false story that it was because the Nicaraguan government was responsible for the provisioning and supply and direction of the insurgency in El Salvador and thus conducting aggression against the neighbors state. This is printed by the major press and goes on the front page because the presidential statement is front page news. A David C McMichael's statement, that this is a crock, you know, while it made the front page in briefly back in 1984, you know, so passed into the welfare of gambled debate on this subject. Having said that we tediously answered your question, I am sure. I also want to point out one thing that's extremely important in the way the press operates in the United States and in any country, really with a privately owned press, they do not use the term free press. They don't say privately owned press because it's more descriptive. The point here is that the statements of the government are going to go unchallenged basically by the press, unless a strong political force, counterforce challenges it. The registered Tribune here in point, is not going on its own to mouth investigative reporting and examining the truth or falsity of statements on foreign policy adventures made by the secretary of state for the President United States. When Senator John Parker, stands up and challenges that and makes an issue of it in the Congress then it becomes a new story and it is going to be examined. Do not waste your time. Why do? You know, tearing your hair up because the major press doesn't examine these stories both put your heat on your congressional representatives to make it news tonight.\r\n\r\n- [Burne] I'd like to follow them in that same question. It's interesting. You know, just there's so many examples. Think of this one. Everybody here knows very well what happened in Tienanmen square. Chinese are trying to overthrow communism, establish democracy, and then just work. What has been said about 35, 38 years ago, when we went to war in Korea to stop communism, give them democracy, and now the people of South Korea are fighting us and the South Korean government to establish democracy. And I'm receiving much the same reaction from the government. You just do not see this. And that's exactly what they're asking for is democracy.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Yes, ma'am. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] I like to ask The other members of the faculty so that they can get to know them and chat with them. And the only person who suspected anything was My question now is, to what extent do the diplomats of\r\n\r\n- [Burne] Did you all hear that question? I think Jack will confirm for you that if you go to a US diplomatic seat, anywhere in the world the legal out of say there is a FBI agent, 99% of the time. 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