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Good afternoon. Welcome to our annual symposium for this year. Are there more people out here that need you? Can you hear that? I know I'm quiet right? My name is Zara Gazee I am co-chairing of the symposium committee along with Steve Pet. I would like to thank the Pearl Whole Grief Fund for helping us sponsor this speaker we have today. And I also would like to thank Pat Tompkins for all the work she has done.\r\n\r\n- He.\r\n\r\n- He. Sorry. This is our second event for this symposium. Last night, we had our fund raising concert in the maintenance shop, and we have a whole host of other things and activities that will be going on. We have brochures on the table there. If you don't have one now you can stop and pick one up later when you get ready to leave by the doors. Today we have with us, a very interesting person. I have been in conversation with him for over a year, maybe two years, trying to get him here. And he finally said he would come and I'd been bugging him and bugging him about a resume. Fine, so knowing that this person is who he is and knowing that I should have more response. All I got was this little tiny short saying and closes real genuine resume, sort of. And I was shocked because this person has a BA in Drama, a master's in English. He has a teaching experience and he's going to begin a two-year leave of absence to write full-time for mourning psychology from what she cut comes to us today. His name is Robert J. Conley.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I have to test this thing here. How's it working? Not working?\r\n\r\n- Evidently that was just for the video camera.\r\n\r\n- that's only for you.\r\n\r\n- I think its right here\r\n\r\n- Hello? No,\r\n\r\n- That's just a funny looking thing here. I just, I have to talk loud, Okay. I'm glad to be here. I was here once some years ago and probably everyone who was involved in that forgot me. So there was no one to protest my return. I like to let everyone know that I'm not from Sioux City. I am living in Sioux City. I'm from Oklahoma. I'm Cherokee from Oklahoma. Most of what I write has to do with my Cherokee background with Cherokee history and Cherokee culture and what not, I usually try to slip something in even if the topic doesn't call for it. I was told that I could have some books on sale here available for sale. And unfortunately, nothing that I have had published is still in print. I'm in an interesting position. Everything that I've had published is either out of print or out of stock. Out of stock as a publisher euphemism for out of print. He doesn't want to say it's out of print because then he's got to give my rights back to me. He's got no more books but he doesn't want to say it's out of print and he says out of stock. And I have four books coming out this year, but they're ahead of me yet. So, right now I have nothing available and that's sad. I'd like to read a little section from the introductory portion of a book on American Indian Prose and Poetry. In fact, that's the title, American Indian Prose and Poetry. Edited by Margot Astrov. Because I think it's a very good statement about traditional attitudes of native American people toward language and therefore toward poetry or the words of songs. This won't take long. The singing of songs and telling of tales with the American Indian is but seldom a means of mere spontaneous self-expression. More often than not, the singer aims with the chanted word to exert a strong influence, and to bring about a change either in himself or in nature or in his fellow beings. By narrating the story of origin he endeavors to influence the universe and to strengthen the failing power of the supernatural beings. He relates to the myth of creation ceremonially in order to save the world from death and destruction and to keep alive the prime evil spirit of the sacred beginning. Above all it seems that the word both in song and in tale was meant to maintain and to prolong the individual life in some way or other that is to cure, to heal to ward off evil and to frustrate death. Healing songs and songs intended to support the powers of germination and of growth in all their manifestations, fairly outnumber all other songs of the American Indian. The word indeed is power, it is life, substance, reality. The word lived before earth, sun or moon came into existence. Whenever the Indian ponders over the mystery of origin he shows a tendency to ascribe to the word of creative power all its own. The word is conceived of as an independent entity superior, even to the gods. Only when the word came up mysteriously in the darkness of the night, where the gods of the Maya enabled to bring forth the earth and life they're on. And the Genesis of the Witoto, South American tribe. Opens characteristically enough in this way. In the beginning, the word gave origin to the father. The word is thought to precede the creator for the mind cannot imagine a creation out of nothingness. In the beginning was the thought, the dream, the word. The concept of the word as creative potency lives on even in the simplest songs of hunting or of harvest of battle love or death as sung by the contemporary Indian. It is this conscious certainty of the directing and influencing power of the word that gives a peculiar urging force to the following war song from the Crow. Whenever there is any trouble, I shall not die but get through, though arrows are many I shall arrive my heart is manly. By chanting these words, the singer raises himself to a higher level of achieving power. It is the magic quality of these words that will render him invulnerable. It is not the herb administered to the sick which is considered the essential part of the cure. Rather, the words recited over that herb before its use. When a hooper Indian is sick, the priest recites over him the account of a former cure, whose central incident is the travel of some mythical person to the ends of the world to find release for his ailment. It is sufficient that the priest to tell how one went. The spirit of the suffering person will follow the words even if he does not comprehend them. A considerable number of songs of the Indian can be understood only from this firm belief in the words power to bring about the desired result upon which the singer has fixed his mind. The word not only engenders courage and power of endurance, but it is the ultimate source of material success. Navajo once said, I have always been a poor man, I do not know a single song. Like other Traditional American Indian People. Traditional minded Cherokees have always been intimately concerned with language. Language is sacred words have power. I think there's a lesson for the modern world in this in a world in which we are encouraged to rush to the store and spend money in order to save. In a world in which world powers engage in wholesale slaughter under the guise of police actions. In a world in which invasions occur under the name of incursions. In a world of deliberate, double and triple redundancies like rainfall precipitation. In a world where the principles of newspeak as outlined by George Orwell in 1984 have become a daily reality. In such a world I believe the traditional Cherokee attitude toward language could prove to be instructive. Indeed, words have power, language is sacred. We would all do well to maintain a reverential attitude toward language. Cherokees have always believed in the power of words and religious attitudes toward the written word at least in the Cherokee language have permeated Cherokee lives for many generations. In spite of the oft repeated and almost universally accepted statement that no native American languages were written before the arrival of the white man in the Americas. There is evidence to indicate that the Cherokee language may have been written from time in Memorial. Cherokee Indian doctors kept written files of their champs and charms often referred to as conjuring books. When Christianity began to make inroads into the Cherokee world, the new Testament was very soon published in the Cherokee language. That original 1830s translation is still widely used and Cherokees today view reading and writing in the Cherokee language as nothing short of a religious activity. If we combine this native American specifically Cherokee attitude toward language and literacy with a common view of literature from the European tradition, then we can begin to get an idea of the contemporary American Indian poet's feelings towards his work. Thomas De Quincy in his essay, the literature of knowledge and the literature of power speaks of the grand juror of all truth which can occupy a very high place in human interests and have the power or deep sympathy with truth as being the basic concerns of literature. Here a couple of translations of very old Cherokee charms. Like the red lightening, like the fog, like the Panther like the red Wolf, like you spirit. I have come to make my appearance. I will be walking in the middle of your soul. Now the smoke of white tobacco has come to wings down on you. White tobacco has descended to you and me from above the spirit fails in nothing. The white pipe has descended to you and me from above the spirit fails in nothing. You and I are never to part. In case you didn't figure that out, those are love charm. There are lots of Cherokee women in Oklahoma who are using those on me. Here's some poems by another Cherokee poet, a friend of mine whose name is Norman H Russell. A Song of Words. The smallest fire may grow larger than the greatest forest, and the melting snow of the mountain become an ocean. I feel in me a song of words, which speaks no louder than the spiral. But these words may catch hearts on fire and spread around the earth. I shall sing my songs wherever I go loudly so that others will hear. Then if other throats catch fire from them they will form an ocean of joy. One called Gratitude. If I bring water to the dying plant, if I lift the young bird to its nest, if I do not kill the mother deer, even though I may starve myself. Then the plant and the bird will be grateful, And the deer will remember me with kindness, and the God of all creatures of the earth will reward me with all their beauty. If I permit the plant and the bird to die, if I kill the mother deer, then God will forget me and all beauty will leave my eyes. The One Voice. Sometimes in the great circle of the spring pile while all the people will sing together a soft chorus of beauty, a deep song of power. This is the one voice of the people, all the earth pauses to here. It says that the people will never leave the earth. Each person is one voice in the song. The song binds the people together. It has many lives becoming one life. like the geese on their journey, like the winds and the storm, like the night speaking of the coyotes, like the summer singing of the insects and the spring voices of the frogs, it is a great magic of the earth. It is the voice of the great God which is all things singing together saying we are here. We are one saying, life is good, life is eternal. Saying beauty saying love. Long time ago, a Cherokee Hunter had to go through an incredibly complex ritual before he went out to hunt. And he had to do that to protect himself because the story of the origin of disease that they said that the animals got tired of being killed indiscriminately by people. And they had a big council trying to decide what to do about that. And the bear thought about the animals trying to use bows and arrows to kill people. But his claws didn't work very well on a string. He got disgusted and left the council, but the deer came up with an idea and that idea was each one of us animals come up with some awful disease and if a Hunter is not respectful, when he kills an animal then we'll follow him home and strike him with some awful disease. I believe the deer invented arthritis. So part of what the Hunter had to do is go through this ritual. And then after he killed an animal he had to make an apology. But the whole thing was so complicated that he might have messed something up inadvertently along the way. So on his way home, he would stop three times, turn around and build a fire in his path so that if the spirit of that animal he had just killed was following him back home, the fire might throw him off trail. That was just in case. The rest of his poems of mine. This is from my first little tiny book of poems called 21 Poems. Very imaginative tite. The title of the poem is the same as its first line. My poems are my fires. Gods forgiven me all the things I've failed to do the things I should have done. Forgive the meat I've used without a prayer without apology. Forgive the other prayers I haven't said those times I should. But oh ye gods both great and small, I do not know the ancient forms. My poems are my fire and my prayer. Some years ago, 1976 or 77. You might remember this I don't know. I was living in Oklahoma and working for the Cherokee nation and the Cherokee nation sent me to Denver for some reason or other. I was sitting in a hotel room in Denver watching television, watching the news on television. And this new story came on saying three girl Scouts had been murdered at Locust Grove, Oklahoma. And the major suspect was a full-blood Cherokee named Gene Leroy Hart. I went back home and there was a big manhunt going on. It lasted, I think 11 months. He was finally arrested and tried and found not guilty. And there was some awfully strange circumstances surrounding that whole case, which I won't go into. But he was sent back to prison for having broken jail sometime earlier on another charge. And within a month he was dead in prison under very mysterious circumstances. This is poem that I wrote while Gene Hart was still a fugitive and the manhunt was going on. By the way I don't believe he was guilty of that crime. The poem is called The Hills of Chelogee. Chelogee is the Cherokee pronunciation of the word Cherokee. Cherokee language doesn't have an R in it. That's interesting. So we couldn't say Cherokee. The Hills of Chelogee and it's for Gene Leroy Hart. They framed him once and put him in their jail and he escaped and stayed hid out three years with family and friends, never really leaving home. And then they framed him once again the second for a heinous crime, and then began they say the most intensive manhunt in the history of the state. They searched the woods. Two bloodhounds died and hart endured it 10 more months before they got him. A Cherokee can disappear from white men's eyes in the wooded Hills of Oklahoma. Ned Christie hit out seven years. Billy pigeon holds the record at 11 and then they never really got him. These Hills are Cherokee and Cherokees slip into their brambles and their brush like a fish glides through a stream, but Yoni eggs and enter as invading forces and hack stomp and burn their way. They say that long ago, a boy saw light to the woods. He took his family to live out there and they became the bears. That boy was Cherokee. I thank these Hills for what they've done. I thank them for their welcome. I hurt for them when white men cut their trees or burn them up or fence them off. I pray that they'll endure. I pray that Hart escapes again and finds himself once more in the safety of the Hills of Chelogee. I went to work one morning and a couple of guys came in and one of them said, \"I saw gene Hart yesterday downtown in locust Grove he was standing on the sidewalk in the middle of the day, talking to some Indians.\" And he said, \"I went over there and said, Gean what are you doing here? All the law men in the country are looking for you.\" And he said, \" hell there's too many of them out there in the woods.\" This poem is called Song For The Shell Shaker. Shell shaker is a woman and a Cherokee Stomp Dance which is a religious dance religious ceremony. There are no drums at a Stomp Dance, but there are certain women dancing who wear turtle-shell rattles strapped to their their curves. And they create the rhythm before everyone follow with their movement with those turtle-shell rattles. This is called The Song For The Shell Shaker. And, it sounds like someone very boastful talking. But actually, if you recall the remarks I read from the Margot Astrov book earlier, you'll realize I think that it's not a boastful fellow. He says these things hoping to make them come true. I am not ugly as they say, nor old, 31 years is not so old. In motion standing, I lead the dance, I jumped higher than they, I stand longer in motion, woman, you are young, you are beautiful. I did not know in all the world there such a good Shell-shaker as you. Come with me to my house, follow me to my village, where our two souls will become as one. For you are very beautiful, and I am handsome in all the world there is not such a good shell shaker as you. me a short poem. Probably the best poem I ever wrote. Called Morning and Night. This morning to the East, I saw a red bird as he sang but from behind me came the harsh call of a Crow. That poem was published with several others in this book called the Rattlesnake Bands and other Poems. Which was translated into Cherokee by a couple of friends of mine. Here's Morning and Night in Cherokee, I don't know why I did that, but I just liked to. I like to find comparisons between contemporary situations in Indian communities and traditional or old historical or mythical or whatever you might want to call them. For one thing, I like to see that continuation. I like to see evidence of that continuation. This poem, this next poem is called the Rattlesnake Band. It's the poem that gives my book, its title. And it came about because a friend of mine, an acquaintance of mine who was a Cherokee who grew up in Wisconsin and came back to Oklahoma and tried to be super Cherokee. Didn't work he's left again. But he's the a young man of this poem and the things that are said about him in this poem are things that actually did happen. I should say before I read it, that the boy or the young man is not killed at the end of this poem. And the poem it doesn't say he's killed but some people have misunderstood it and thought he was killed. he's not killed, he was scared. So there's a contemporary story here. Something that actually happened to this fella. And it's told along with some other stories some stories from the Cherokee oral tradition and some historical stories. And I hope you can can tell when it moves back and forth from one to the other, from contemporary to old. If you were reading it on the page you'd be able to see it because of the way the poem is set up. The Rattlesnake Band. Don't wear that snake for a hat band boy, you'll get struck by lightning sure. In the house of thunder, Thunder's son the lightning boy wound a rattlesnake round his neck to make a pretty necklace. He walked with a swagger and when he did the rattles would sound ignore old superstitious men be cool. The lightning boy flashed here and there around the ball field, played circles all around his brothers outnumbered two to one, he won the game. There was once a time, a Hunter in the woods found himself surrounded by rattlesnakes. The chief, a very large one spoke, \"Your wife,\" it said, \"just now has killed my brother.\" \"When you go home,\" it said, \"make her go outside for water and I will kill her.\" The Hunter though he loved his wife did what the rattler said and she was killed. At the carwash, the boy with the rattlesnake band was washing his car when lightning struck the metal roof overhead. One time in Cherokee country, lightning struck a house. A family of six lies cold in a single grave. Their names are listed there, killed by lightning it says. on a shelf in the house the hat with the rattlesnake band is gathering dust. The poem I read a little earlier about Gene Hart made a reference to a Billy Pigeon. Billy Pigeon was a Cherokee medicine man. We say Indian doctor, who was, you can find stories about him in the wild West, shoot him up books because he's been written up as an outlaw. But here's the story of. His Cherokee name is His English name is Billy Pigeon. While US Marshals searched the woods for Billy Pigeon sat and watched his soul in the body of an owl, sometimes invisible he walked among them, the marshals being white and having no belief, never caught him and never understood. I'm trying to watch the clock, intelligent women. Know what I'm doing here. I wanna to read one poem that doesn't really fit in with the rest of these, but I am in Iowa. And a few years ago, 1981. I was commissioned by the Iowa State Department of transportation to write a poem. And they paid me $300. That's the most money anybody that I know of was ever paid for a poem in the history of the world. There's only one problem. And that is that the Iowa department of transportation doesn't want poems very often. but they published this one. This is also my strangest publication. They published this and copyrighted it on a sign board, just outside of Dubuque up on the site of some old burial mounts. The title is some lines in commemoration of this site. Little Maquoketa River Mount May 15th, 1981. This land is Indian nourished for thousands of years by the bodies of our ancestors. It is a part of us and we have it. It holds our dead, Yet it lives on and in and all around it breathe the spirits of those we here commemorate. These mounts are but one site, one symbol visual of what this whole entire America is made of, the flesh and blood and bones of those who have gone before and in return while we are here, this land feeds us. If you ever go to that Little Maquoketa River Mount site. and feel energetic and climb the hill you can see that on a sign up there. But I think I'll stop with that and see if there are any questions.\r\n\r\n- Is that Maquoketa\r\n\r\n- Maquoketa? Yeah, I don't know, I've only been there once, but it went to Dubuque and turned South a little ways. This is like being back in the classroom.\r\n\r\n- Yes Dave.\r\n\r\n- Are you still writing a lot poetry Or writing longer things these days?\r\n\r\n- I haven't written any poetry for quite some time. I'm writing actually I'm writing or what's known as category fiction. And I think it's great fun. I think it's marvelous challenge to try to write a Western novel and see how far you can push the boundaries of the of the category, and still get away with it and still get something sold. I do have a collection of short stories coming out. I think in August from the university of Oklahoma press. And I have two Western novels, one which is absolute fiction, And the other of which is a sort of a fictionalized biography of a historical Cherokee bank robber, Henry Star. And I have a mystery coming out in August and Eastern Oklahoma in Cherokee country. Yeah. Watch Walden books. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- I've always wanted to ask this maybe difficult to answer but a lot of novels written by American authors the protagonist is a half-breed on quite often over and over again with Mama Day and Welch and any number SoCo. And I was wondering two of your novels the protagonists are half breeds. Does that present certain interesting qualities that artists authors find more interesting than full-bloods? Or why does that pop up over and over again?\r\n\r\n- A full-blood Crow asked me that once, and I suggested he write a novel with a full blood protagonist if he wanted one. One reason might be that most of those writers, that you mentioned are mixed blooded themselves. So probably they're writing a story with a central character that they can identify more closely with. That's one possible explanation. But another possibility is that if the theme of the story has to do with the problems of the the conflict of two cultures, then a half-breed is a pretty good symbol of that problem because he's biologically caught between the two cultures, as well as in other ways. It's a good question. I'm not sure that's the best answer, but that's all I can come up with. In my short stories there are some stories that don't fall into that category however. That's another commercial .\r\n\r\n- What's your story collection called ?\r\n\r\n- The Witch of Going Snake and other stories. Going snake is a district of the Cherokee nation. And the district that it was named after one of the old chiefs. So it was, originally a man's name but then it became a voting district.\r\n\r\n- Your comments on category fiction were interesting. And I'm wondering if you read much of it yourself, and if so, is it still supporting all the familiar stereotypes and the old West?\r\n\r\n- I do read quite a bit of category fiction, mostly westerns, and but the westerns that I read are generally westerns that challenged the old formula that, don't fit that mold. There is still quite a bit of the formula stuff being written however, being published. In fact, I had, I talked to the editor at pocket books not too long ago, about possibility of reprints for my two Doubleday novels. And he said, no we're still publishing the old fashioned westerns and we can't use those. So there is still some of that being published but there are also editors at publishing companies who have a category of Western but they like to find something that's different. They like to find things that challenge that formula. I read mysteries of Tony Hillerman do any of you know Tony Hillerman?\r\n\r\n- He was hear in the fall.\r\n\r\n- Was he really? Why didn't you tell me? Yeah I read his mysteries. I don't read many other mysteries.\r\n\r\n- That's what I heard your whole lecture. But I was wondering if you are Keetoowah .\r\n\r\n- I'll answer the second part of your question first. No, I haven't. And, I can't answer the first part unless I know which Keetoowah are you're talking about. There are two Keetoowah groups that get confused a lot. There's the old religious society, the Nighthawk Keetoowah Society. There's also a tribal government called the United Keetoowah Band. Yeah. No, I'm not. My tribal membership is Keetoowah Band rather than Cherokee Nation. If that question and answer confused you that's too bad because the explanation would take another 45 minutes. But in a nutshell, the Cherokees in Eastern Oklahoma have to concurrent tribal governments with exactly the same jurisdiction and the same constituency. That's thanks to the United States government. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- We are asking to hear your explanation of circumstances or your perceptions of things going on that surrounded, you're creating a certain . I was just curious, as you're pulling this your untitled poem in this handout, I was very impressed with and I was just wondering what, if any were the circumstances of perceptions revolving around that creation of that poem.\r\n\r\n- The reaction to certain poems by Gary Snyder and others like him who think they're making magic with their poems I think. Hasty reactions don't always make the best poems by the way.\r\n\r\n- Is it harder to be inspired to write a pure than it is ? No. I don't, buy the inspiration explanation of writing. Anyway I think if someone wants to write you'll sit down and write. There are times there there's a novel that I have in mind that I would like to write which I don't feel like, I either don't feel like I can write it, or I don't want to write it without making a trip to North Carolina. And then following the, trail of tears back into Oklahoma. I might be able to but I don't want to, but that's kind of, that's a sort of a version of research. It doesn't really have anything to do with inspiration or moods or anything. I think, you know, I'm taking this two year leave of absence from teaching which I'm very tickled about. And everybody up around Morningside keeps saying, \"where are you going?\" And I don't know why they think I have to go somewhere. The object is to not go to classes. its an alternative. Do you have to go someplace special to write? yes to my typewriter. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering if you've read Lucia St. Claire Robson Walking My Soul and if you have one.\r\n\r\n- I have and I know Lucia and she she's an incredibly thorough researcher. I enjoyed it. I think it's a pretty good book. and it's pretty accurate.\r\n\r\n- How'd you feel about . There wasn't really that many questions.\r\n\r\n- Yeah I don't even remember what they were. I suspect because of the title, what they were things that she picked up out of the books that were published by two Cherokees Jack and Anna Kilpatrick. And, you know the traditional belief is that if those things are published, their usefulness is destroyed. So I don't suppose I'd have any reason to blame Lucian. If she republics something that someone else had already killed. On the other hand, when I have need for something like that in my own fiction or poetry or whatever I make something up. I try to make it look like and sound like what these English translations of those old things would look like, to get the flavor or whatever, but I personally don't like to use real material which would be a real sacred material and fiction. I imitate it if I have a need to, but my my personal practice is not to use it. I feel like I've been ignoring this end of the room. That's because Dave is sitting there and I, he makes faces at me. There seems to be a somewhat recurring sub in approach. You ran, I'm not ashamed that I, I don't know the words. How much of, of your relation to what you write is preservation of what you grew up with and therefore possess and how much of it is sense of loss? How much is missing, you know, as growing up as a Cherokee I know that I've been to the reservation in North Carolina but I don't know that much about the Oklahoma people. How much of it's lost, how much of it do you own. In the sense that one can own these things, how much . It, varies a great deal. from one Cherokee community to another. And there's difference. There's a general feeling that at least one part of the reservation in North Carolina has remained much more traditional than people in Oklahoma. Although there are some awfully traditional Oklahoma Cherokee communities. I think I lost track of where I was going with my answer to your question. I don't know the answer how much is but I think both of those are in there.\r\n\r\n- I think it was more of how do you feel about it? When it comes to writing. It can . You know, one of the reasons I want to get out of the classroom and start writing is because I don't know how to answer those kinds of questions. I don't think about those things when I write something and just whatever happens to be on my mind, I suppose I wrote the Gene Hart, the poem about Gene Hart, because that's what I was thinking about. And that's what was going on at the time. And the stories about Gene Hart in the woods and what was going on in the woods, by the way the two bloodhounds were actually there was a big deal made about it. They went to Pennsylvania and got the two greatest dogs in the country or something, and they brought them down to Oklahoma and they went out in the woods. And the next day on the radio they said those two super bloodhounds died out there trying to track down Gene Hart in the woods. And so thinking about the thing that was going on right at the time reminded me of these other things. And that's why that particular poem got written the way it did. 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any students in here that need to be at a class? None? Continue.\r\n\r\n- If there are, they don't want to go. Yes, sir. You open with some remarks about the power and the sacredness of the word. I wondered how you feel by your own spoken word as you stand there and talk to us. Do you feel that that description you gave of the word describes, is in some way how you feel about your own words here or not? I just wonder\r\n\r\n- Um.\r\n\r\n- The extent that's\r\n\r\n- I don't think that I personally feel like I can say something and make something happen right now, right? I can't stand here and talk about being six feet tall and, and shoot up there. I don't feel like that but I do have a very strong feeling about about honesty and accuracy in language and about to say the same thing from the other point of view or negatively, I have very strong feeling about deliberate deception and sloppy language and language that, that's intended to make us do something we don't want to do, or deceive us about something that's going on, or, you know, things like that. And I think that I apply those same kinds of things to myself. You know, as I'm talking.\r\n\r\n- Do you think of your reading to us as something closer to a personal utterance or closer to a public ritual?\r\n\r\n- I think of it as a kind of an ordeal that I have to go through. I don't, I don't know. You know I don't, I know writers who actively look for things like this to do, you know, and particularly poets because nobody makes money writing poetry. Nobody. There are poets who make a living being poets. And they make that living by going on what Mark Twain called the bandit circuit, you know and getting checks for reading. And I don't, I don't look for those kinds of things to do because it's kind of easy to put a poem in the mail and you get a book back in the mail and whatnot. But when you get up in front of a bunch of people and look at that thing and have to really have to read it out loud, at least when I do that, all kinds of doubts that I didn't really know I had about the quality of that particular piece of writing suddenly materialize in my mind.\r\n\r\n- I guess I wonder too, if you were addressing an audience entirely Cherokee and it was an occasion important to them would your reading be different than the reading to us in any way? Would your feeling about it be different?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I'd be even more apprehensive. And I have done that. I have done that. I've been in that situation and there are, And I've been in a situation like that with Cherokees, from traditional communities, people who probably know more about these things than I do. So it, yeah, it makes me much more apprehensive. But I have been there and I've never been stoned. So. Although I put it over there on the, on the table my little book, which is not, this is my first little book of poems called 21 Poems has a cover design that has some of the Cherokee syllabary on there. It's supposed to have the title 21 Poems written out in Cherokee. And a Cherokee who was fluent and literate in the Cherokee language, said, it says here 20 poems. You left one off. And I said, \"Oh yeah?\" So, you know, I, yeah, I've been caught a time or two. Dave?\r\n\r\n- In regard to Mr. Eden's question about the traditional feeling of the printed word, obviating an incantation or making it lose its power with the same, given our level of technology would the, these words, lose their power if recorded on a tape recorder? Well I have a reason for asking.\r\n\r\n- Nobody has ever asked me that before, and I've never heard a discussion of it. I don't know. It's interesting. One thing though, I'll, let me throw this in real quickly. The most traditional group of Oklahoma Cherokees startled me a couple of years ago by allowing television cameras from one of the Tulsa television stations out on the stomp grounds. I thought that would never happen. I think there are a variety of reasons for the resistance of traditional American Indian people to scholars and whatnot coming to record things. And I think that in recent years that's been changing. They've been opening up a little more. And certainly when the Smiths let the television cameras on the Redbird Smith stomp ground nearby in Oklahoma, that was kind of earth shattering. So.\r\n\r\n- Perfect. My reason for asking was not outsiders coming in. I can understand how\r\n\r\n- But I think that's related though to the idea of publishing and recording.\r\n\r\n- I hear American Indian students that I've worked with here at Iowa state and people I've known lamenting that certain stories and things are being lost. So my question is not for an outsider to go in and and record them, but would it violate, you know the feeling and the power of the word for them to record these so that they would not be lost?\r\n\r\n- I think that, I'm just gonna kind of guess at an answer to that Dave, but I think that somebody who felt that strongly about publishing would probably feel the same way about the recording. There was a man a few years back, an anthropologist who did some work in Oklahoma among Yuchi Indians. He talked to one old man and he wanted to get some information about ceremonies and so on and so forth. And the guy didn't want certain information recorded. The anthropologist said, \"Wouldn't it, well how many people know all this the way you do? And you're a pretty old man, you're going to die one of these days, it's all going to be lost. If we don't get it recorded. And the old man said it would be better to lose it then to pass it on in the wrong way because these things are learned by people as they grow up and take part in things. That's the proper way to learn it. So if you put it all in a book and somebody reads through it and learns it like that that's not the right way to learn it. It would be better to lose it. That's the old traditional point of view. But like I said, I think that's changing. I think we're finding fewer and fewer people who are you know, who are holding forth that point of view.\r\n\r\n- Isn't that part of the power of orally passed wisdom though, is that you realize its context is modified? I mean, many traditions become outmoded because they simply are no longer necessary. Rituals are no longer connected to their sources. If it remains oral, you don't have these people clinging to the letter of the law. It becomes more functional, doesn't it? Isn't that sort of what you were saying? He was saying there is danger in\r\n\r\n- Yeah. And I think that you find those, the old attitudes stronger in communities where the traditions are still strong.\r\n\r\n- This is a problem with\r\n\r\n- You may be right. Yeah. Nobody reads it, that's for sure. I made a reference to Epsilon in one of my classes one day, and I teach at a Methodist college, and nobody knew who I was talking about. My first novel was called Back to Malachi. And you should hear what those people say, \"Malachi?\" You know, what is that? I said, \"Well, it's a book in the Bible, If you want to, you know.\" \"Oh, really?\" \"Yeah.\" Yes.\r\n\r\n- I have a book from the Indian reservation, The Old Time And formulas of the Cherokee Indians by Mooney.\r\n\r\n- Mm-hmm\r\n\r\n- Now what about those native books?\r\n\r\n- Well, that was done way back in 1890 or thereabouts as part of the old Bureau of American Ethnology reports and stuff. And, well, I can't answer yes or no, but that traditional point of view would say that all of that material, once it was recorded and published, once it was published, that's the, because the Indian doctor recorded it. He wrote it down in the syllabary and he had a little file box with all that stuff in there or notebooks or whatever. But once it was published and released that traditional attitude would say it was all, the power that it had was gone. It was destroyed. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Are there any more questions? If not, he's not going to go into the woodwork. He will be around your, the rest of this weekend. So.\r\n\r\n- And you might mention the performance tonight.\r\n\r\n- Right, we are having warriors of the mystic word in the great hall this evening at 7:30. You're all welcome. That's it.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40464/file/112080#t=0.0,684.85225"}]}]}]}