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I'm Jean Adams and tonight I'm representing both the Department of Economics and the University Committee on Lectures, both of which are sponsors of this evening's lecture, along with The Graduate College and the Departments of Sociology, Psychology and Political Science. This truly is an interdisciplinary lecture. Our speaker tonight is Dr. Todd Sandler, who is Professor of Economics at the University of Wyoming. Dr. Sandler received his Bachelor's, Master's and PhD degrees from the State University of New York At Binghamton. Since receiving the PhD in 1971 he has served on the faculty or as a visiting fellow at several universities in the United States and in Western Europe and in Australia. Dr. Sandler's research activities and numerous scholarly publications span a wide range of topics within economics. While much of his work has been theoretical in nature, he has also analyzed a variety of applied topics including the one he will discuss tonight concerning the Rationality of Terrorists Negotiations. Before turning the podium over to Dr. Sandler, let me inform you that at the end of his lecture he is willing to take questions from the audience. And so if you have any, please feel free to ask them at the end of the lecture. Now, please help me in welcoming Dr. Sandler to Iowa State. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- As with all research, you started off and you'd think, well this might be a really nice topic. And when I started the terrorism research, I thought, well, maybe the first thing I should do is get to where it's happening. So I went over to Europe to do a little bit of field research, and it was a book publisher in Europe that was trying to sign one of my books. So they sent this representative to me and they said, well, what can we do to make you stay in Europe a little better? And I said, geez, I'd... I'd like to get over to Northern Ireland to see some of this terrorism stuff that's going on. So she said, \"Oh yeah I'll take you over to Northern Ireland\". Well, we got in a car took the ferry over and landed in Belfast. The first thing I heard was machine gun fire thinking, you know, that this would be pretty, you know, you wouldn't really see any of this stuff yet it was very... It was there everywhere. And we were stopped at a roadblock by a number of DORA with machine guns, told to go another way. We went another way, on the radio we then heard that two youths were held up in the alley. Then they were subsequently killed and they were suspected of some terrorist activities. Well, from there, we decided to go a little bit further away from Belfast and go over to Londonderry to see what was happening over there. When at the Londonderry, and I'll never forget that, that was just... It was just like maybe it was in 1946 or something, you know just after the war, I was just born at that point, but seeing pictures, I mean, that was what Londonderry was like. We crossed over from Londonderry and we stopped along the side of the road, talked a little bit, never knowing that at this point there had been some terrorist activities throughout the route that we had been following. So they suspected myself and this person I was with, this book representative of being the terrorists that were perpetrating these activities. So they set up a roadblock up the road for us. And when they arrested me, I counted 50 submachine guns. And the woman I was with, I said don't move because I've done so much military research and I knew all the safeties were off. And they had me pinned against the car with a submachine gun in my temple and asking me, what was I doing there? And of course I gave the usual academic answer. Oh, I'm doing some research They said \"Sure\". Wrong, I guess the point of my story is that of all the research I have done up to this point terrorism is the only research I could probably get myself killed for. And that's really very possible. I've been back to Northern Ireland once, I've been warned by a number of people not to go back. I've published at this point, only one paper on terrorism for the American Political Science Review. I'm putting a book together, I have a second paper that I will be publishing soon, an empirical paper that uses CIA data to basically show what determines success in a terrorist operation. What determines the length of an incident, what determines success, what determines the negotiation strategies that are best to use. Now, most people when they think about terrorism they think about the mad people we hear described in the news, etcetera. It is definitely true that some terrorist acts are perpetrated by nihilists, people who would like to see nothing better than the entire social fabric destroyed, and really perhaps are not rational. Well, when you look at the background of a typical terrorist what you find nine is an individual who's usually from a upper middle class background. Someone who has a master's degree or higher yet, someone who thinks through their operation very, very carefully. When you look at groups that have existed for a period of time, you see groups that engage in lots of different activities, groups that understand exactly what they are faced with, what they are faced with in terms of the police that they have to deal with, the type of weapontry they'll have to deal with, etcetera. So when I started studying this and I started reading some of the terrorists literature, which by the way I never carried with me over the borders. I mean, how can you explain why you're going into Northern Ireland with a mini manual to urban destruction in your pockets? It's pretty difficult. And so I came upon the idea, well, these terrorists may very well be rational in an economic sense. So I suppose the first thing I should do is at least explain what I mean by rationality. I do not mean, when I say rational I do not mean that their goals are rational. You don't determine rationality in economics by what someone is trying to seek. For instance, when you spend your money, when you go out and you buy records or you go to the dances or you you buy beer or whatever, someone who never drinks beer, somebody who never listens to music might say, \"Oh that person is irrational because I would never buy those particular items\". You cannot determine rationality by one's goals. The way you determine rationality and economics is whether one seeks, based on the constraints they face, those goals rationally, no matter what those goals might be. So you might want to bring down a society, you might think that's irrational. If that's one's goal, that's rational as long as the person who's trying to achieve that goal responds to the constraints they face in a rational manner. Namely, if one thing becomes harder to do is that taken into account? Does the person to respond to this? Does the person take into account that maybe this particular measure must be countered with some other measure? And when we look at terrorists and when we look at how they've operated over the years, we find groups that respond virtually immediately to any kinds of changes in the environment that they are dealing with. We find success rates that are extremely high, much higher than the success rates that most people after earning a college degree face in terms of getting their first job and keeping their first job. For instance, these are figures taken from the CIA and the State Department, these are not figures that I've made up. From 1968 to 1982, out of the major kidnapping events, and there were 409 kidnapping events in this particular sample, and these were events that crossed borders, they were considered transnational, they involved either a victim from another country being taken across a country border, or they involved groups from two or more countries, something that gave it a transnational flavor, we found a success in getting your hostages and escaping with them 80% of the time. We found the ability to collect the ransom 70% of the time. Those are tremendous success rates. Barricade in hostage taking, which is the most dangerous of all terrorist activities, remember, with a barricade in hostage taking incident you are a hostage as well if you're the terrorist. You are completely surrounded and you are as much of a hostage as the hostage that you've taken. That's different than a kidnapping, because in a kidnapping it's an unknown location and a barricade in hostage taking it's a known location. Aerial Skyjacking, which is a barricade in hostage taking situation, you are surrounded the success rates 75%. These are tremendous success rates when you consider what one faces in terms of success in the private sector or in the public sector doing legitimate types of activities. Now, what would be another way of determining, at least superficially, whether these terrorists would be successful or not? Well, one thing I applied was portfolio analysis. Portfolio analysis came out of finance theory. And basically what portfolio analysis says is that someone who's invest in the education or in assets or whatever, will tend to diversify. They'll tend to invest in different types of things because diversification tends to spread the risk and in spreading the risk, Sam Houston and others showed that that was the best, most rational policy to deal with. Well, we can think of a terrorist group as also having a portfolio. They have different places they can put their assets and they have different types of acts they can perpetrate. They can perpetrate bombings to make their presence known, they can issue threats, threats that may not be backed up, may not ever be meant to be backed up. They can assassinate, they can kidnap, they can have shootouts with the police, they can hijack, they can have armed their attacks, they can have barricade in a hostage taking. Now, you can take a ranking of the success rates of each one of these particular activities. And I told you, I talked a little bit about the two most risky, the kidnapping and the hijackings and barricade hostage taking. Those were the most risky, all the other success rates are much higher. And you can make a list of what is the... You can make a ranking from the most successful to the least successful. And then you can make a ranking based on the data that's available or based on telling you how many times each one of these acts occurs. And what you'll find is a direct mapping between the two, a positive relationship. The terrorists tend to engage in the really easy stuff much more often. In fact, if you do a portfolio diversification analysis you'll find that every single major terrorist group that has been successful for any period of time, two, three years or longer, diversifies their portfolio. They'll only engage in the really risky acts once in a great while when they think they've really gotten made and when they think that the payoffs are going to be really large, large enough to justify the added risk that they have to take. So again, I view this, as an economist, as an indication of rationality. I look at the measures that have been instituted by government to make terrorism much, much more difficult to engage in. For instance, let me see if I can get the years, I believe in '73. Yeah. In 73, they put metal detectives into the airports. They did it in a big way in this country, in some of the European countries they were a little bit slower. In Australia where I live quite often off and on they only have one there. What they do is they do a spot check, every once in a great while they decide to check a plane load of passengers. What you find is that every country that put the metal detectors in, terrorism dropped almost to zero in terms of skyjackings. And in some of those countries, they started to take over buses or other things where there weren't metal detectors. In 1975, the U.S. embassies increased their securities significantly. And what we found after that was that the attacks on U.S. embassies almost dropped to zero. Not quite, as there's been some very famous incidents since that point, but it dropped way, way down. Again, if you consider that there's a constraint the terrorists must pay a price. They have a choice. They can get the goals fulfilled through legal means, and that that costs money too, it costs time, et cetera. You can send out pamphlets, you can give speeches, you can do whatever, but you can do it through legal means. And then you can try to bring over followers or people who will vote on your side, or what have you. And that's one way of going, or you can do it illegally. You can engage in terrorist activities, you can try to intimidate through fear and threats etcetera, to get a goal that might be political in nature and that also carries a price. What we find and what an economist would predict is if you raise the price of one type of illegal activity so that it's relative price, it's price compared to everything else goes up and the other prices stay constant, we should see a substitution effect. Much like we see a substitution effect between beef and chicken when the price of beef goes up and the price of chicken initially does not change. And what you find is exactly that. You find a tremendous substitution effect and a substitution effect that occurs instantaneously. And it occurs between countries as well, I mean, the word gets out very, very quickly. Unfortunately, one of the results is that if a terrorist wanting force tends to make one type of activity harder to engage in and we see this substitution, we then go up to see more of another type of activity. The other type of activity that they substitute in maybe worse than what you kept them from doing by making one type of activity more difficult. Let me give you a for instance, after the Iranian takeover the U.S. increased their securities even more in terms of it's embassies. And countries where there was any kind of M and A, any kind of possibility of a takeover, they actually made it embassies fortresses. In those particular situations, we found that embassy attacks dropped to zero in those countries and they waited until the diplomat left the embassy ground and then assassinated them. We found that assassinations increased, so many folds it wasn't funny. And that was the statistic's hold right through the day. And you can listen to the news and verify at least in kind of a casual manner, whether that is true or not or you could write to CIA and ask them for the data which they will not give you any longer. In fact, that's one of the problems we face as researchers. I mean, I think it is a legitimate activity. If indeed terrorism is such a terrible thing for Audit Society, why not take some academic knowledge, look at it and find out what you can do to make terrorism less prevalent. If police forces have a limited amount of resources, what would be the best way for police force to allocate pigeonhole its resources into wanting one type of activity versus another so that we can wind up with the best allocation, the most productivity out of a given amount of resources possible taking into account that terrorists are not going to stand still, they're going to respond. They're going to shift around what they are doing and what they choose no longer to do in terms of incidents. Well, if any of you ever choose to look at this from a professional viewpoint or just from an interest viewpoint, what you'll find is that no one bothered to collect any statistics on terrorism until about 1968. In '68, the CIA started to collect statistics. And in fact, on each incident collected 128 different types of observations, we can call these variables. For instance, they determined how many hostages were taken if it was a hostage incident. What type of weapontry was used. If it was a skyjacking, what kind of plane was taken? I mean, as an economist, one would think that if you were a hijacker and you had a 747, you would do a lot better than if you had a Convair 580. And one could test that out or maybe having the bigger plane meant that you needed more people to be able to keep the plane since a smaller plane might be easier to maintain your hostages without being countered attack, etcetera. Well, they measured 128 observations. They kept this data bank up through 1977, and it was kept nice and complete. In '77, there was a promise to continue the data bank right up through 1984. In fact, the data bank was continued and in 1980, when Casey took over the CIA a decision was made not to allow any academics to have this type of data. It was collected and it was maintained at the CIA. Oh, why? I don't know. I do know as a researcher, that all the runs that I'm making at this particular point, all the statistical runs I'm making have to end in 1977, which is really a shame because if one could get the extra seven years of data, at least from a statistical viewpoint, you could be a lot more sophisticated in your techniques, etcetera. And you might have a little more confidence in the types of things that one reports. To give you an idea of some of the types of statistical things that one can run. For instance, one thing that we try to determine and this is all based in theoretical models, okay. We didn't just do Ad Hoc reasoning. We didn't sit down and say, \"Ah, maybe this should be in the model, or maybe this should be in the model\". Basically, what we did was we used a economic utility maximizing model. We said that a terrorist group had certain particular goals. We can borrow different groups by reading their literature and trying to determine their trade-off. So we had some idea what their utility function might look like so we can deal with one group versus another group. And we asked the theoretical question and built the model asking, basically, how would these groups maximize expected utility? Because they're in an uncertainty frame work, they don't know for sure that they'll get what they're going after, subject to certain constraints, constraints in terms of their time, the manpower they had, their income and in terms of risk. And also in terms of the types of penalties that they faced. Of course, that was an eye-opener, where we got data from CIA State Department, places in Europe, we found out that a typical terrorists never serves any time in jail. In fact, the number of months served in jail was minuscule and that's adding all the terrorist groups together. True enough, some terrorists are no longer with us. I mean, they are blown away. Unfortunately, more hostages are killed than terrorists. In fact, I'll give you some figures later to show you how costly terrorism is to society. Anyway, this is the type of model we built. I won't go into it in a public lecture, but I can give papers to you if any of you are interested, from a professional point of view, how we built these models and whether they were legitimate or not. Well, then we tried to determine how long a negotiation would occur. Time to failure would be the statistical term. And we put certain things into, based on the model we built, we hypothesized that certain variables would be significant. Certain aspects of the incident would be significant. And we placed those in particular our model and tried to see to what extent the length of the incident was determined by such things as was it a kidnapping or was it a barricade in hostage taking situation? One would think that in a kidnapping where location was unknown, that that would increase the length of the incident because with barricade in a hostage taking, you know exactly where they are, they get surrounded almost immediately and then either a negotiation occurs or doesn't occur. And so we separated out the two groups with a dummy variable to determine whether kidnappings was I significant aspect to the length of an incident. We also put in whether there were U.S. victims thinking that the type of victims that one might hold might make a difference too, in terms of the length of the incident. One would think that with U.S. victims there would be more of a willingness to negotiate, they'd be more pressures placed by our country government and theirs, not to just storm the place. We also had data and included as a variable whether the terrorists ever made the demands known. They don't always make the demands known. So we had that in. We also had the measures of what they initially asked for and what they were actually given at the end of the incident. So we had a measure for the differential between what they demanded and what they were actually paid if they were successful. With the understanding, this is called Bargaining Theory. Bargaining Theory would tell us that the length of any kind of bargain would increase. The greater the difference between the initial demands that someone would ask for and what was initially offered and same type of relationship would be in terms of what was initially of what was finally given. Basically, we had those types of statistics. We hypothesized too that whether terrorists were wounded would probably decrease the length of the incident, but that the terrorists wouldn't be that interested in the hostages and therefore that the number of hostages wounded would probably not be that important but we threw it in anyway, just to see. And then we included other kinds of resource measures for instance, the type of weapontry they had. We had to put them into arbitrary categories because on a loyal continuum, you can't measure guns, bombs, you know, soap guns, etcetera. You'd basically say did they have a sophisticated technology in terms of their weapons? Did they have missiles with them? Did they have high powered weapons? Etcetera. Or did they have unsophisticated weapons? And we included that as well. And then we also included the number of terrorists thinking that perhaps the number would make a difference, from an economic viewpoint one would predict that it would. Well, the results came out as follows, whether it was a kidnapping or not was extremely important and significant from a statistical standpoint in terms of the length of the incident. Kidnappings significantly increased the length of an incident. And then we could determine by how much it increased the length of the incident. If the terrorists allowed for sequential release of prisoners that significantly increased the length of the incident. If they had U.S. victims that significantly increased the length of the incident. The greater the difference between what was asked for and what was received either in terms of the number of prisoners or in terms of money based on what they were after, sometimes they're after prisoners being released, sometimes they're after money, that also was significant from a statistical standpoint. If the terrorists made their demands known, that was also significant. If the terrorist decreased their demands that was not significant but it did increase the length of the incident. It was just barely out of the significant range and then everything else had the right side but was not significant. It didn't matter how many hostages they held in terms of determining the length of the incident. It did not matter what type of weapontry they had with them. In fact, when I talk about success probabilities, we're going to find out that weapontry actually works against them. That the more sophisticated the weapontry the lower their success probabilities. That may just be because if the government or police are facing really sophisticated weapons they may just not be willing to negotiate. At that point they might be just willing to shoot it out. Our data isn't so detailed that we can make those particular kinds of determination. The number of hostages wounded totally unimportant to significance. The number of terrorists, totally unimportant to whether the incident was lengthy or otherwise. Now, remember we have kidnappings in here as well. And one would think that in a kidnapping situation one individual can be very, very successful. At least after the initial gaining of the hostage. It doesn't take very many to be successful. Then we did some... based on the same kind of theoretical model, we wanted to determine what told us whether these groups were successful or not. Again, this kind of research is very touchy because consider a government or a police enforcement agency, would they really want some academic to publish somewhere exactly the menu to success in terms of terrorism, looking at all of the available data they wanted to get their hands on? Using the most efficient statistical techniques that one can use? I've got three researchers working for me, all of them are full professors. I mean, I would I think that they wouldn't want this to get out. But anyway, we did it anyway and we'll publish it and we'll take our lumps afterwards, whatever that might be. We put basically the same variables in and we found the following: That kidnapping significantly increased the success of an incident. And we determined from our statistical model what are called partial elasticities. What we basically found out was by how much did this particular variable increase your likelihood to success. As compared to barricade in hostage taking, aerial hijackings, if you have an unknown location and it's a kidnapping you increase your success by 40% over the success rates of the other types of hostage taking. Whether the terrorist allowed for sequential release of hostages, which shows the type of spirit of negotiation. It also shows a willingness of the government to negotiate and therefore one would think that would help success. And it does. And in fact, it raised the success rate by 30%. So if there was even one time when there was a prisoner released, the terrorists were successful 30% more of the times because of that particular type of negotiation strategy. The number of terrorists nationalities, which was a measure for the number of groups that were cooperating which is again, a resource measure shows you that the terrorists have more resources behind them. That was highly significant in determining success probabilities and increased success probabilities. High powered weapons, sophisticated weapons decreased success probabilities by quite a bit. What variables didn't make a difference in terms of success? The number of terrorists that was nowhere near significant, it was really just totally immaterial. The number of hostages, nowhere near being important. And all those other measures I had mentioned before were nowhere near being important in determining this. So at least that's a view in terms of how one might use this to look at terrorist incidents and what can you say about them. What else can we do with using economic theory or trying to treat the terrorists as being rational individuals and see what we can say? Well, in this American Political Science paper that I wrote, what I tried to come up with was a negotiation model where one could tell a government, at least based on the assumptions of the model, which may or may not hold, okay, that's always a caveat that you've got to say, you can determine what groups one negotiates with and what groups one does not negotiate with. And within the standard type of maximization under uncertainty model, it simply comes down to whether the groups are risk loving or risk averse. You tend to negotiate or can negotiate successfully with risk averse groups but you cannot negotiate with risk loving groups. Now you're saying, well, how can you determine whether a group is risk loving or whether it's risk averse? I said before that groups tend to engage in all different types of activities. They tend to diversify their portfolio, a group that puts more risky operations into their portfolio, in other words, they hijack more often as a percent of their operations or they have more kidnappings or they have more shootouts with the police, I would say that compared to other groups that's probably a risk loving group. A Palestinian terrorist group that is willing to get into a hot air balloon and fly over one of the most heavily guarded borders in the world namely Israel, I would suggest that that might be a risk loving group. They don't usually make their goals, though. What we'll find in terms of looking at the Palestinians, and remember in terms of the Palestinians there's literally hundreds of splinter groups. But when you look at some of the more famous ones, Black September, etcetera, what you'll find is that these groups alone in the sample period, 1968 to 1977 perpetrated, as best as we can tell, 23% of every hijacking. Now, that's a tremendous amount. One might then say in that particular situation this is a risk loving group. If the model then holds and you don't negotiate with risk loving groups, that you will not come to a stable equilibrium, nothing will be settled, it'll just increase the length of the incident and you'll have to bring the troops in at the end anyway, one might then say, if indeed the Israelis are dealing with these Palestinian groups that tend to have portfolios high in terms of risky operations they may really well have had the right policy of no negotiation. But then you can look at other countries that have instituted no negotiation policies and you can look at how these terrorist groups operated, how they revealed their preferences in the past, did they engage in risky operations or otherwise? And you may come up with a different determination. So one of the things you can come up with in terms of these model buildings treating terrorists as rational individuals not as desirable individuals, but rational individuals you can come up with negotiation strategies. Not only the Yes/No answer, but maybe even how you start the process and what you negotiate, etcetera. One thing we find when looking at the data, and this is some stuff that is still in the initial runs, we find that governments are very willing to negotiate with money, very, very willing. In fact, we computed an elasticity measure which showed of every dollar demanded... What was the percentage of each dollar demanded that the terrorists ultimately got if they were successful? And those elasticity measures were around 0.81. That means that 81% of every dollar initially asked for. Many terrorists out there are probably thinking to themselves \"God, why did I ask for so little?\". Because if you consider that particular type of trend, I mean, it's, it's worthwhile to ask for quite a bit. In terms of prisoners, you don't see the same thing. When they ask for prisoners to be released the elasticity measure was about 0.35. In other words, they got about 35% of each prisoner that they asked for. Okay. And that's a fairly low elasticity. Also the success rates in getting the prisoners were much less than it was in terms of getting the money. Now, does this seem to show rationality in the government's part? Because there's a government side to this as well. These governments on negotiating as well. And when we built these models we didn't only build the terrorist side, we built the government side as well. We said that the governments were in office and they wanted to stay in office. They wanted to win re-election and they didn't wanna look too severe to their voters, but at the same time they didn't wanna look too weak to their voters. They didn't wanna give into too many terrorists incidents when they were in office. So we also modeled a policymaker side and the government side and we gave them certain risk attitudes. And we used the type of what is called a Game Theory model a Nash behavior where you deal... And it's fairly sophisticated cause it's Nash behavior with uncertainty, with two different groups of participants, and then you can determine whether the incidents were stable or not. And that would allow you to know whether you'd negotiate. If an incident is stable, that means that as you go back and forth asking and making offers and counter offers it will eventually come down to a stable equilibrium. If it's unstable, it would mean that the terrorists would continually ask for more and more. And basically all you were doing was giving them a lot of time to get a lot of publicity but there were never really going to give in. And what the model showed you was that even on one or two steps in negotiation, you could determine based on the negotiators in terms of terrorists, exactly whether you are in a stable or unstable position. It could tell you whether you wanted to go on or not with the negotiations. We also looked at... With these models we modeled, as I said, the governments we did some more modeling with the government. We wanted to get down to a question that is asked a lot. And that is, why don't governments cooperate with each other in terms of terrorism? I mean, just consider how many hijackings you would have if there was no such thing as a safe haven. I mean, if all governments got together of all 181 nations, that's about what they are today, got together and said no hijacker will ever be allowed to land on our soil. I would predict that if that agreement could ever occur, and I would also predict that it will never occur, that terrorism in terms of hijackings would go way, way down. I mean, hijackers do know that there are some safe havens out there at this particular point in time and most of you know what they are. So then thing you might ask yourself is why don't governments agree? I mean, if this is such a simple resource-free way of curing a really horrible type of terrorism that we face, why don't they agree? And what you'll find is that a lot of governments grew out of a terrorist movement in the first place. And consequently, since they became legitimate governments after starting off as terrorist groups, they don't want to cut their flexibility in the future and make up laws and rules that they may come under themselves. Now, that sounds like a extremely skeptical view but read a little bit about the revolutionary war in this country and how we became a country, read a little bit about who supports revolutionary groups throughout the world. And you'll find that a lot of legitimate governments do support revolutionary groups. In fact, the State Department themselves agree that more than half of the terrorists we face are supported by major governments. So major governments do not wanna sit down and make agreements that would eliminate an avenue of revolution or an intervention in other governments that they themselves engage in. Because these very rules may be used against them. Now, it is very possible within certain parts of the hemisphere to find governments that are willing to sit down and agree. And what had been done in the past in terms of these agreements was just hope that it could fly in the U.N. Perhaps the General Assembly can embrace this question of eliminating safe havens. And they tried to get the General Assembly to agree in this but obviously you couldn't get a majority of nations to agree against all safe havens. I would say that the more intelligent way of dealing with this would be to find those areas of the world, for instance, I suppose Cuba, some of the South American countries, some of the Central American countries, and instead of trying to find a real agreement in terms of safe havens, try first to get little alliance packs, which are more reasonable simply because they may very well have more united interest to eliminate certain types of activities and start there rather than this big worldview which has been taken up to this point and see how that would behave or how that would succeed. Another place where there could be a lot of agreements and can save a lot of resources would be the sharing of commando forces. At this particular point in time, we find one country after another maintaining their own forces. For instance at this point in time, there are very, very sophisticated forces maintained full-time in the U.S., Egypt, Israel, the U.K., West Germany, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy, Norway, Austria, Indonesia and that's only to name a few. These are extremely sophisticated forces, they take a lot of money, etcetera. They may stay idle for as much as a year before they go into action. Now, one would think that what you could have in terms of cooperation is you can have a few countries to put the sophisticated technology, etcetera into these forces and then they could be shared out. They could be rented out when incidents occur rather than to have so many resources placed into warning terrorism. In fact, when you look at the types of gains that terrorists have made over the years, here's a figure in terms of ransoms paid since 1968 and this goes, I believe up to 1982, $322.6 million have been paid out in ransoms in terms of kidnappings and terrorist related type of activities. Consider what it costs to maintain a Crack Commando Force with all of the vehicles they need and everything else. And you'll see that the major costs to terrorism is not the money that the terrorists get away with, but the amount of resources that we have to put to trying to keep them from taking hostages or causing harm to society. And of course that's exactly what they want. So what I'm saying is there's a lot of ways that these resources from the government viewpoint can be used more intelligently. Well, I was just trying to see what else I should say before I open it up to questions. I'll just give you a few more statistics in terms of incidents. The newspapers try to make us, or they seem to tell us that terrorism has increased significantly. Is that true or isn't it true? You can look back in history, books, etcetera and you can see terrorism has been with us ever since man has begun writing. I mean, terrorism is not a new phenomenon. To me perhaps the sophistication of terrorism is new. That terrorism is crossing more boundaries, international boundaries now. That is a new phenomenon. And when we look at transnational terrorism crossing the boundaries, this is the pattern we face: In 1968, there was 123 incidents. In '69 there was 179 transnational incidents. In 1970, there was a significant jump up to 340, a jump up that never moved down to the previous levels of running at about 100 and 150 etcetera. From 1970, all the way through the '70 decade and into the '80s transnational incidents fluctuated between about 300, 340 and about 500 but there was no trend upwards contrary to what the press makes you think, it's cyclical. In fact, one thing that we intend to test because eyeballing the figures that seem to indicate this, that terrorism tends to be far hold where they tend to be counter cyclical with respect to their income cycle. In other words, you get more incidents during worldwide recession periods and less doing worldwide boom periods. Now, that may very well indicate that terrorists are able in a legal way to get their resources easier in boom periods, will grow periods, than they can in recessionary periods. But we do not find the trend upwards that the press tells us is occurring. What we would find is that the media coverage of transnational events have increased significantly. And of course, this is really desirable to certain groups. 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incident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=7.45,10.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We also found that if they got more money,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=10.21,13.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then they were willing to go down on their prisoner goal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=13.52,16.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What we're finding is again, a bargaining between goals","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=16.25,18.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which economic theory would indicate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=18.96,21.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I'll stop at this point","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=21.57,22.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and see if there's any questions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=22.63,24.203"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cause I got a lot of notes, a lot statistics with me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=24.203,28.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and so I've got lots more if you have specific questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=28.03,31.253"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=32.918,33.751"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Had a question as far as uh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=33.751,36.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the country's attitude towards terrorism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=36.14,37.732"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You were saying that US has a lot of money","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=37.732,40.486"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"poured into commando units.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=40.486,42.269"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we're also facing the problem","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=42.269,44.261"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the general public saying, \"Hey, we're the United States,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=44.261,47.551"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we don't do that kind of stuff, okay?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=47.551,49.982"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you have the Armenian situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=49.982,51.411"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they have 44 people, okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=51.411,53.796"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"44 people not even with the plane crash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=53.796,56.794"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know what I'm saying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=56.794,57.627"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmhm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=57.627,58.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e So we go in there with this crackpot team,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=58.46,60.675"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we get blown out of the sand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=60.675,61.576"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmhm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=61.576,62.685"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So obviously we have the technology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=62.685,65.789"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have the capital, we have the land,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=65.789,68.429"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we have the people that have the emotional ability","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=68.429,72.518"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to go out there and waste people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=72.518,74.533"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we don't have home support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=74.533,76.193"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmhm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=76.193,77.196"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e So in my opinion, honestly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=77.196,80.353"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your most experienced with international,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=80.353,82.145"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but in my opinion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=82.145,82.978"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the US is going past the edge of saying","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=82.978,85.995"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Hey, we're gonna help other 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In fact, a lot of governments,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1329.007,1332.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I won't mention any per se","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1332.0,1333.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but a lot of governments consider 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We're looking at that too, now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1397.8,1399.719"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The runs are still fairly initial, but we are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1399.719,1402.272"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we are looking at that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1402.272,1404.189"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"again going back to this question, you know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1405.741,1407.153"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that still can be used opposite, you know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1407.153,1409.973"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from a government viewpoint.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1409.973,1412.306"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Please help me in thanking our speaker, guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1414.341,1417.653"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience applause)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=1417.653,1420.653"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22953/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/953/original/AV203410_The_Rationality_of_Terrorism_b.vtt?1613512632","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/953/original/AV203410_The_Rationality_of_Terrorism_b.vtt?1613512632"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22954","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203410_The_Rationality_of_Terrorism_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846/transcript/22954/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I already got all the media coverage, et cetera to just walk away from the incident. We also found that if they got more money, then they were willing to go down on their prisoner goal. What we're finding is again, a bargaining between goals which economic theory would indicate. Well, I'll stop at this point and see if there's any questions cause I got a lot of notes, a lot statistics with me, and so I've got lots more if you have specific questions. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Had a question as far as uh, the country's attitude towards terrorism. You were saying that US has a lot of money poured into commando units. But we're also facing the problem of the general public saying, \"Hey, we're the United States, we don't do that kind of stuff, okay?\" So you have the Armenian situation And they have 44 people, okay, 44 people not even with the plane crash. You know what I'm saying?\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- So we go in there with this crackpot team, we get blown out of the sand.\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- Okay. So obviously we have the technology. We have the capital, we have the land, we have the people that have the emotional ability to go out there and waste people. But we don't have home support.\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- So in my opinion, honestly, your most experienced with international, but in my opinion, the US is going past the edge of saying \"Hey, we're gonna help other countries\" and say \"Hey, we're the easiest guys to rip off.\" Now, because the strong public opinion against terrorism, will the US ever go back to that or is that in the past that we don't want to go back to?\r\n\r\n- Well, CBS news recently had a special on the ranger force and the ranger force has a lot of different activities but one of them there's a splinter force that it will be used for anti-terrorism. And the US has now just bought a whole bunch of advance helicopters that can go through a sandstorm without the types of problems that we faced previously. In fact, the Reagan administration, whether there was public opinion behind it or not, I think there was in the sense that these large defense budgets were approved by Congress. They've, they've poured a lot of money into the transnational well, the commando units. Simply because what the Iranian crises showed us was that we were not prepared, no matter how much we want to think of ourselves as the most powerful nation on earth. And perhaps we are, perhaps we're not, but it was clear that we were not the most powerful nation on earth in terms of dealing with an extremely complicated commando act. One that was going to take place many, many thousand miles from our shores in the center of a capital city. Just from my knowledge of strategy, and I write about it was not it was always likened to Entebbe. It was not Entebbe. Entebbe's airport was out in the outskirts of the city. It didn't have radar. It didn't have anything. That plane came in real low with the lights off, landed there. They had literally about 30 guys to deal with which they blew away instantly. There was one individual loss in that particular raid. Yes, it was executed very, very nice but it was a totally different type of operation. Remember, Israel is a lot closer to Entebbe than, than we were to Iran. I think, I think what you'll find in the near future is that there is public support to have these types of forces and people look at things like London when the Iranian embassy was taken over at Prince's gate there and how good the British commandos were. There was a lot of national pride in terms of that particular incident, national pride that was dampened a little bit, dampened when hostages said that when the commandos came in what they did was they first threw an incendiary bomb. We started a small fire on the second floor. This was a diversion. at that point, the commandos also threw into the building, a concussion grenade which at that point in time was a fairly sophisticated piece of technology. Most people didn't know about it, what it did was it maximized sound wave, and minimized damage. And what it literally did was knocked everybody to the floor and stunned them didn't hurt anybody, just stunned them knocked them all to the floor. When the commandos then came in, the hostage takers put their hands up to give up and they were all blown away. That was then told to the British press because I was living in England at that point. And that, that was not an issue of national pride. Although at first it was, they really rallied behind that. Cause you know, it had so many similarities to the US, the US was faced with a Iranian takeover. We couldn't do anything. We had to sit back here. This little nation of England, this once great nation has been maligned so much in the press and everything else basically what they said was a similar type of incident. Of course, it was in their own national capitol and they put it down and they put it down very quickly. If you look at the amount of resources that have now been allocated to combating terrorism, it's tremendous in this country. Mmhm?\r\n\r\n- There's been a column this year in congress the Reagan administration wanted to pass some government legislation against terrorism.\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- And, the initial problem I understand wasn't, um, initially the signing of the list of potential groups that\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- have threatened terrorism. What, just out of conjecture, what advice would you have to Congress on compiling a list like that, Any other legislative actions they might be able to take?\r\n\r\n- I don't know if I would have any advice. It's done, it's been done ever since there was a CIA, ever since there was an FBI, some of these groups are legitimate groups. Others are groups that one really should fear and one should watch get, you know how successful that will be? One never knows. I mean, we live in 1984 and every other president seems to have an assassination attempt. Yet, we have a secret service that goes around trying to find out who's going to be suspicious characters, et cetera. I mean, it's, it's the first step to try and to thwart this activity. How successful it will be depends on how knowledgeable they are in terms of identifying these groups. Of course, there's a tremendous potential there for violating human rights as well. You know, that's something to be considered. Mmhm?\r\n\r\n- Did I understand you correctly in saying that the commando, maintaining all these commando forces in every country is actually spending money, materials and life we're spending as kind of a waste considering there's so much redundancy in the services provided?\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- So, in other words, is is really necessary for the Reagan administration to get all this anti-terrorism forces?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think, I think it might be for the US. Let's forget about Reagan or otherwise, but I think it is necessary for the US because of the logistics involved. If, if we are going to depend on a crack force that is stationed in London, forget about it. By the time they get over here, it's going to be too late. But I think what I was basically trying to say is, I mean is it really necessary for Belgium and Netherlands both to spend as many resources as they do to have identical forces? I mean, that's, that's an economic question that one must ask if these countries could cooperate and pool their resources and perhaps develop one force between the two of them that is better than either one could do separately and then pull the knowledge in terms of of information and people to watch, et cetera. I think they would do better. Of course I, you, if you deal with groups that want to bring down society anything that forces resources into trying to keep them from operating and keeping these resources away from public programs or out of our pocket as consumers, will obviously make the society less, less good to live in and that's playing into the terrorist's hands, If their goal is to bring down that society. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to know how you define terrorism, and second question that I have,\r\n\r\n- Okay. First you, your first question which is the easier one of the two, I would define terrorism as the premeditated threaten or actual use of force or violence to attain a political goal through fear, coercion or intimidation. Now that's, that's not a perfect definition but that's how I would define it.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Well. Okay.\r\n\r\n- You define in the broad sense, okay?\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- In the situation that somebody fakes a disability, or making sure for certain kind of people, we should look at the broad sense, basically, but we should look at the action that created the terrorist,\r\n\r\n- Mmhm. I, I won't, for obvious reasons I won't answer that question. I mean, I won't answer a question which country creates the most terrorism. I will answer the question indirectly by saying in examining the figures and even in looking at what the state department says themselves they indicate that to the best of their knowledge, more than 50% of terrorists acts are perpetrated by governments. Okay, you can put your own government names into that but they themselves indicate that 50% of acts are perpetrated by governments. Now, when you look at the statistics and you do these statistical models and you get these variables about how many terrorists was on the, were on the plane and what weapons they use, no there's nothing in those models that tell you whether they were representing the government of Israel or whether they were representing somebody else. This is a political aspect of the question it's not an aspect I looked at, is an important aspect. It's one that's looked at by lots of other people.\r\n\r\n- But, if you are looking at the statistics, most of the terrorist actions are aimed towards the United States, okay?\r\n\r\n- Uh, That's true.\r\n\r\n- Well, it's, it's, it's, it's let me go with the other question. I will first answers in terms of most of it is to the US, the statistics show that about half of terrorist acts are directed at the US, okay. Why they are directed at the US from your political standpoint, you might say that's because US policy is rotten, terrible, whatever. I don't know, but it could also be because the US is a democratic government which anyone who is arrested for a terrorist act, et cetera, has certain rights which they will not have in other gov, governments. When you look at the degree of terrorism let's say in China, almost none. There was a Chinese hijacking about a year ago. As soon as that plane landed and those hostages were captured, they were made to kneel, And they were shot once each in the head. Now, in a government like that in a country like that, there's deterrents. I mean, people who face that particular type of pay off for being caught more often than not will be terrorists, in a, in a government where if you did kill somebody or if you took over a plane, you were captured you least could stand trial, you could have a lawyer, et cetera. You can get your demands broadcast on television, indirectly, et cetera. Yeah. In that type of situation, that's going to work towards having lots of incidents, because they get noticed in a country that has less freedom of the press, et cetera. Terrorism is not advertised. The Chinese will not tell their people what happened. They'll just say things like if terrorism occurs it will be dealt with directly and severely. Other questions. Yes? Okay.\r\n\r\n- That's a real good question. I don't know the answer because I haven't, they haven't compiled that kind of statistic, but that, you know that's something that you want to find out. That's basically cost benefit analysis for both viewpoints. You know, what is the cost benefit to the terror? I think there you'll find that the cost benefit to the terrorist, or the benefit cost ratio, benefit first is greater than one. what it is to the government, whether it's greater than one or not. I don't know. And how they compared to the government, these are the terrorists. I mean that's just a heck of a good question. Why I didn't think of it, I'll be looking at it. I will know. Mmhm?\r\n\r\n- My question, that, in my opinion, that question is irrelevant. In my opinion.\r\n\r\n- Mmhm?\r\n\r\n- Because you're dealing with, Okay I realize looking at an economic point of view, but obviously we can't forget about the political, and psychological. They don't care if they get wasted. They don't care, in my opinion, the most irrational, the risk-loving, they don't care if they're going to die, because they're dying for Mother Russia, or they're dying for the homeland, or they're dying for They don't care about so my opinion, from the terrorist point of view, as long as they\r\n\r\n- Well,\r\n\r\n- Or how they acquire it,\r\n\r\n- I would answer that by just saying what I've seen by looking at the write-ups of each of these incidents and what we find invariably. In fact, almost always is that when the terrorists are actually caught and captured. They always have escape plans with them. They have elaborate plans for how to get away. They have their own groups afterwards trying to get them out of jail willing to do almost anything, to get them out of jail. I mean, if they really are suicidal we would see much more horrible incidents than what we've seen today. Because if a group is really suicidal and they don't really care about life, and all they really want to do is go out in the biggest way possible, make their message known, just consider what an individual can do. And we have seen that in a couple of cases and we've seen that in Lebanon. And we've seen that in terms of someone who's willing to drive a truck of dynamite in and blow up everything possible. That happened. And remember, no model of terrorism, no model of terrorism will ever explained a hundred percent of terrorist acts, a model if it's even, I think a model that can explain even 10% of the acts, is useful. And maybe as we apply more modeling we'll explain more and more acts. But what has been done in the past in terms of all of this and there's hundreds of articles, hundreds of books about terrorism, what the sociologists have done. I think it's good work what they, the political scientists have done, It too is good work, is they're going out on the basically did one taxonomic approach and they've tried to pigeonhole into categories. What types of incidents and tell us what has been the picture in terms of what has been done in the past and where are they going but they haven't analyzed why you see these pictures and why are these pictures changing? That's where my research is trying to get one step further in terms of um, I'm happy that these taxonomies are there, of it allows me to talk to a group of people and talk about barricade and hostage acts as being different from kidnapping acts. If I didn't have the research done by political scientists and sociologists before that said this is an important distinction. And that we see this distinction made then I wouldn't know as an economist to try to look to see how important that was and what that determined about other aspects. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think, I think that more often than not they do with respect to the information they have. I think what you'll see over the long run is much greater success. And the government's part is as they find out more what motivates these terrorism, terrorist acts and when the governments treat these terrorists as rational individuals, which they are doing right now. And in fact there were a number of hijackings just at the end of the summer. And the governments were amazingly successful in those situations much more so than in the past. There is a learning that is occurring. Yes?\r\n\r\n- No, the smallest. And why did I emphasize those was because I wanted to look at negotiation models. You see with a bombing there's no negotiation that occurs with an assassination there is no negotiation that occurs. And one of the goals of the research was policy oriented trying to tell governments, when do you negotiate? How do you go about it? So that's why we picked out those particular incidents. We were having the computer tapes uh, oh about 8,000 incidents, and the overwhelming number of bombings and threats and letter bombings and hoax and, and things like that.\r\n\r\n- No, it doesn't seem to be, they all seem to diversify which means they're all engaged in all different types of activities. And they tend to engage in the more risky ones less often and the less risky ones more often. And we, as I said, only for the Palestinians did one see almost a, a love of risk. But then again, there's a lot of groups there. And if, if one can identify all of them and put them together, I don't think that that would show for all of them, but it would show for a couple of the groups. Some of them more famous ones, like flex it, September.\r\n\r\n- Well, I agree with you. And, and I find it scary. It's a lot easier to run a regression based on what determines whether a woman has a healthy child on terms of breastfeeding, all of these other variables and not have to ever worry that this might ever be used for bad purposes. You know, it was really neutral type of research there It would probably lead to some help or better understanding, but you're right. I mean, terrorism is just the term. You can find it anywhere you want. You can look at governments and you can look at every legitimate government in this world. And every legitimate government in this world engages in terrorism. They face terrorism that they want to do away with and know that we're willing to call it, call it terrorism. In fact, a lot of governments, I won't mention any per se but a lot of governments consider terrorism something that follows my definition when it's directed at them. But it's not terrorism if they are perpetrating it, or if it's some government that is on the wrong side of the political spectrum and they don't want to see it remember in an earlier part in my talk, I said terrorism has been with us ever since the beginning you can find it in the Bible, if you want to look for it. Our own society is a society that came from revolution came from a movement which some people could call a terrorist movement. Yes, it's true. The research can also tell a government that is engaging in terrorist acts exactly how best to do it.\r\n\r\n- Do you have room for one more question?\r\n\r\n- Mmhm.\r\n\r\n- Have you looked at the question of deterrents? What types of government activity reduce the instance of, the likelihood?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. We're looking at that too, now. The runs are still fairly initial, but we are, we are looking at that, again going back to this question, you know that still can be used opposite, you know from a government viewpoint.\r\n\r\n- Please help me in thanking our speaker, guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36679/file/105846#t=0.0,1429.992"}]}]}]}