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black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45537/file/118512#t=2759.14,2761.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45537/file/118512/transcript/29898/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"John's Gospel is seen as the voice of the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45537/file/118512#t=2761.31,2764.003"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45537/file/118512/transcript/29898/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this means that of all of the great \"I am\" 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And then it wasn't much use for us now. And with that, Dr. Schweitzer went to medical college and went to Africa. By the 1940s, in this country, the scholarly consensus, at in least academic world, was that we didn't know much about the historical Jesus and we could not know much about the historical Jesus. And in any event, it was wrong. What counted what counted was the cross. What counted was attention to Paul. And today we come to a point in time that has been called the Third Renaissance and the quest for the historical Jesus. Scholarly research methodology borrowed from anthropology, literary research, and a host of other disciplines have contributed to a state of scholarship today, which we are first increasingly confident that we can reach that to a point, which describes not merely the gospel's portrayal of Jesus, but can reach behind that to a sketch at least of historical Jesus. But we have increasing confidence about the limits of that knowledge and definition. And we discover, and we have been privileged in our church this over this past weekend to discover enormous meaning, enormous depth, enormous relevancy of those messages for our lives. It is this with great pleasure that I introduce you to Dr. Marcus bore, the Distinguished Service Professor of Religion and Culture at Oregon State University. Born in the fields of North Dakota, he went to Concordia College, where he discovered New Testament work in undergraduate days, went on to Union Theological Seminary in New York City, and then to Mansfield College at Oxford, where he completed his doctorate. Dr. Borg has taught at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota before going Oregon State University. He has published in recent years, \"Jesus: A New Vision,\" which is an excellent compilation of current scholarly consensus as to who Jesus is and a new book just out this month, \"Meeting Jesus Again for the Very First Time.\" He's a charter member of the Jesus Seminar, a group of 60 or so academics who have worked diligently over the last half dozen years at trying to discern what indeed we can say about Jesus and how that is relevant to our lives. We have been enriched to use Ecclesiastical language less over this last weekend with Dr. Borg's presence with us. We have been moved and we look forward to this lecture today. Thank you very much, Dr. Borg.\r\n\r\n- This is called setting the table. Well, I want to thank Michael Montgomery for that invitation or that introduction. And also for the invitation to me to spend this weekend in Ames, Iowa. I really enjoyed the talks that I've been giving at the United Congregational Church and have very much appreciated all the hospitality that I experienced there. It's also very nice for me to be talking to the state university audience because state university audiences are my home turf, as it were. For the last 15 years, I've taught at Oregon State. And I don't know enough about Iowa State to know that it's really a sister institution, but my strong sense is that it probably is. And occasions like this, I enjoy very much because I love to speak of large groups of people. A few of you have heard me joke before that my wife tells me I'm at my very best in front of a large group of people, which has always struck me as a double edge compliment. But it is nice that you all are here. And I appreciate you're choosing to spend your Sunday afternoon in this way. As Michael has already mentioned, there is a Renaissance going on in Jesus scholarship in North America and I think also in England, and it is such a remarkable change in the amount of activity being devoted to the study of the historical Jesus that Tom Wright, a professor at Oxford has referred to this as a third quest of the historical Jesus now underway. One of the central features of that Renaissance of that third quest has been the work of the Jesus Seminar, which began meeting in 1985. And it's not simply that the Jesus Seminar as helped to bring historical Jesus scholarship into the consciousness of the American people, but it also has greatly stimulated the scholarly activity of those of us who have been involved with it. Just about six weeks ago now in December, the first fruit, as it were, of the Jesus Seminar's work was published in this volume called \"The Five Gospels,\" and \"The Five Gospels\" is what I'll be talking about today. It's a controversial book. It's also virtually a best-selling book. The first printing was 30,000 copies, and the first printing sold out in the first three weeks, which amazed the publishers, Macmillan, who should know something about publishing. They've been in it for awhile. Obviously, if they had anticipated sales of that number, they would have run a much larger first press run. And so it is surprising everybody with how well it's being received. The second printing is now in bookstores, by the way. So it's not that it is suddenly out of print. Anyway, it's a very exciting time to be a Jesus scholar. And I feel very grateful to have been a Jesus scholar during the past decade, and what I wanted to do in my talk today, and I would plan on roughly around 45 to 50 minutes or until roughly 3:00 and then maybe half an hour or so for questions and responses and so forth because that's the part of the day I enjoy most. What I want to do in that 45 or 50 minutes is first of all to tell you something about this volume itself and then tell you something about the process whereby it came into existence, which will involve the describing the Jesus Seminar event. Then I want to speak about why it's controversial because it is indeed quote controversial. And then 4th and finally, I want to speak about its usefulness as a study tool, both within the university and within a church setting. I was told that it would be okay if I spend a little bit of my talk talking about what this might mean for Christians because after all this is still fairly Christian part of the country. So that'll be near the tail end of my talk. So let me begin by saying something about the volume itself and the process whereby it came into existence. The volume which I've already held up, and I'll probably let go of it very soon, so I don't have to keep doing this, is I think a very handsome volume. It's 550 pages long. It's printed in four colors, about which I'll say something in just a few minutes, and it sells for only 30 bucks. And anytime you can get a hard-bound, 550 pages long, in four colors for $30, you oughta go out and buy it regardless of what it's about. Roughly the first 40 pages of the volume is a very helpful introduction to the history of Jesus scholarship, to the methods used by Jesus scholars and to the Jesus Seminar itself. Then the rest of the volume is basically the text of five gospels, the canonical four plus Thomas, and I'll say something more about Thomas in a moment. Printed in four different colors with extended commentary explaining why the seminar decided what it decided about each of the sayings and so forth. Indeed, I think the commentary is probably about two thirds of the rest of the volume. Now I've already mentioned that it's printed in four colors. The colors are red, pink, gray, and black, though if you look at a volume and look at the actual copy, You'll notice it's more like red, lavender, light blue, and black, and that's because I think they use a two color printing process and a screening process. So pink came out kinda lavender, you know, but you can see how it works when you look at volumes up. Those four colors are the results of votes taken with the Jesus Seminar since 1985, votes on the very simple question, \"Do I think Jesus said this?\" And the votes would be taken after thorough analysis and discussion of each of the sayings of Jesus. A red vote, you can understand as the strongest positive vote. A black vote as the strongest negative vote with pink and gray representing in-between votes, or in the semi-official colloquial language of the Seminar, a red vote means that's Jesus. A pink vote means, sure sounds like Him. A gray vote means, well, maybe, and a black vote means, there's been some mistake. Now the process whereby we came to those votes is also, I think, worthwhile describing. The Jesus Seminar itself has involved approximately 125 to 150 fellows over the years that it's been active. Only 75 are listed in the appendix to the book here. And that's because some people were active for only a meeting or two or three. And you then either their travel budget's gave out or something else led them to drop out. But of those that 125, 150 fellows who were involved in the process from 1985 to 1992, all of us were specialists. And typically that meant a PhD in some field of study relevant to the gospels or a 1st century Jewish Palestine. Virtually all of us were professors, some of us in private colleges, some in universities, some in seminaries. The Jesus Seminar had no official religious affiliation. And so we never did a survey of let's say, the religious beliefs or denominational affiliations of fellows. But my own impression from knowing the group fairly well is that we probably broke down into the following categories, broadly speaking, probably about one-third Protestant, one-third Catholic, and one-third non religious. That wasn't deliberate. It just worked out that way. There were a few Jewish scholars involved as well. Quite a number of the scholars were also ordained clergy persons. I don't have any clear sense of percentages there, but I wouldn't be surprised if maybe 25% of the fellows were ordained clergy persons, even though they tended to be professors and not practicing the clergy. The way the meetings were held is that twice a year, we would gather for three-and-a-half day meetings. We would know well in advance of the meeting, what collection of sayings was going to be considered at that meeting. For example, at one meeting, the focus was on the servant on the mount, and papers would be prepared on all of the sayings that were going to be discussed at that meeting, circulated in advance and read in advance. So we wouldn't spend any time in the meetings reading to each other, but rather than meetings where specifically for relevant discussion prior to involvement. By the way, the idea of voting on the sayings of Jesus strikes some people as blasphemous, and I'll say a little bit more about that later. Other people, it just strikes them as rather bizarre or odd. My brother-in-law is amongst those. A couple years after I was involved in this whole process one of his friends asked him, \"How's your brother-in-law doing?\" Meaning me, and my brother-in-law said, \"Well, he's flying around the country, \"voting on the Lord's prayer.\" So there is kind of a bizarre dimension to this whole process, but it was also a very careful and exciting process. Now, one more thing about the colors before I get into some of the reasons why all this has been controversial. I mentioned before that the colors are red, pink, gray, and black, and that they roughly correspond to a descending scale of historical authenticity. Now that works pretty well as a definition of the colors with one major exception. It isn't a very good definition of gray. Red and pink are both positive votes. Indeed red and pink material reflects a strong consensus within the discipline. We're a pretty skeptical group for anything to get into red or pink means it's pretty solid. Black also represents a pretty strong consensus. I think there are very few scholars outside of the seminar who would challenge our black votes with a possible exception of those black votes on narrowly eschatological sayings, sayings about end of the world. There's some scholars who still think those go back to Jesus. So red and pink represent positive consensus. Black represents negative consensus, but it would be misleading to think of gray as representing a slightly negative consensus. Let me explain why. Gray within the voting of the Seminar could be used to express uncertainty. A gray vote could mean, well, maybe. And so some gray material expresses that uncertainty. A saying printed in gray could also indicate not the consensus is gray, but the votes were all over the place. Let me illustrate that with a hypothetical example. Let's imagine the saying, which received 10 red votes, 10 pink votes, 10 gray votes and 11 black votes. Adding all of those votes together and doing a weighted average means that that saying would be printed in gray. What that does not mean in that case, the consensus is gray. What what would mean in that case is the votes were all over the place, that the seminar and perhaps scholarship generally is profoundly divided on that particular saying. So gray material should really be treated as material where the jury is out. Gray material, is in a sense, up for grabs. There's uncertainty or division within a discipline about it. I just read a brief paper on this very subject called \"The Excitement of Gray.\" And one of my colleagues said, \"Have you checked your hair lately?\" But my point has been about The Excitement of Gray\" is that gray, representing this large undecided category, may suggest what the major focus of at least a good chunk of Jesus' research over the next decade might be. That's the material that's up for grabs. I mentioned all of that because of its own importance, but also because of only 18% of the sayings of Jesus in the five gospels are printed in pink or red. And that's the figure that most of the news stories about have been highlighted, and that strikes some people as alarming. Only 18% of the stuff that attributed to Jesus really goes back to Him. Well, that's one of the reasons it's important to say the gray material, another other 20% roughly, does not mean a negative vote. It means this is undecided material. Okay, let me move then to talking for a few minutes, maybe more than a few minutes about why this publication, \"The Five Gospels\" is controversial and why the Jesus Seminar has been controversial, at least in some circles. Let me mention two major reasons. First, the very idea that Jesus didn't say everything attributed to Him in the gospels is controversial in some circles. For those Christians who think of the Bible as inerrant or infallible, as fairly directly a divine product, the notion of voting on whether or not Jesus really said something is unnecessary, even outrageous, perhaps even blasphemous. But even for many people who aren't committed to the infallibility of the Bible or the infallibility of the gospels, it's a surprising and even alarming notion. So that's the first reason, just the very idea of voting on stuff attributed to Jesus strikes many people as controversial. Second reason is that it's controversial because of some of the things that we don't think Jesus said because some of the material that we basically voted as inauthentic. First, I'll mention four categories of material. First, all of the exalted titles of Jesus were voted by the Seminar as inauthentic, as not going back to Jesus. By the exalted titles of Jesus, I mean titles like Son of God, Messiah, the Great I Am sayings, I'm the Light of the World, I Am the Bread of Life, I'm the Resurrection, the Way, the Truth and the Life and so forth. All of those are seen by the Seminar as inauthentic. We don't think the historical Jesus spoke that way about Himself. We think all of that material is the product of the community in the decades after Easter. Second, all of the traditions, which report that Jesus spoke of His death as a dying for the sins of the world are seen as inauthentic. We don't think Jesus saw His own purpose as dying for the sins of the world or we don't think Jesus saw His own death as the purpose of His life. We think that's post-Easter interpretation on the part of the community. Third, all of the end of the world sayings in which Jesus is reported to and spoken of His long second coming will be printed in black. We don't think He spoke about His own second coming. We don't think He spoke about the imminent end of the world and thus is a kind of footnote here. Within scholarly circles, one of the big bits of news coming out of the Jesus Seminar is the suggestion that perhaps the scholarly consensus about Jesus being an end of the world figure has changed. For much of this century, beginning which Schweitzer, to whom Michael referred in his introduction, scholarship about Jesus has been dominated by the notion that he was an eschatological figure, that technical term mean a figure who expected the imminent the end of the world in his own generation. Within the Jesus Seminar, we don't think that. Virtually, all of John's Gospel will be printed in black. There's a few verses in gray. There might even be one in pink, but that's because it's got an exact clone in the synoptic gospels. So everything peculiar to John will be in black. Now for many people, that's surprising, although that are uncomfortable because John, for many people is the most familiar and the most beloved of the gospels. And I'll say more about John in a few moments. Now these results perhaps enable you to see why the Jesus Seminar has attracted some controversy. Let me report one secondhand story that you actually were closer to geographically than I. So you may even have better information about this than I do. But in December after \"The Five Gospels\" came out, a lot of newspapers in this country ran major stories about it, including the Gary, Indiana daily newspaper. And they ran a front page story on their publication of \"The Five Gospels,\" which wasn't that unusual. But the secondhand story I've heard is that a fundamentalist pastor in Gary, Indiana was outraged that the local newspaper would give that much publicity to something like this. And he was smart enough not to organize a book burning, but he did plan to organize a newspaper burning, namely people were to save that copy of the newspaper and bring it to some public place on the Sunday after Christmas, and they would have a newspaper burning to protest the publication being given to this work. I learned all about all this three, four days before it was supposed to happen. News of what he was planning to do reached the ears of Ted Koppel, who then planned to do a \"Nightline\" program on this newspaper burning and the work of the Jesus Seminar, which had provoked it, News that Ted Koppel was planning to do this got back to the fundamentalist pastor who then was also smart enough to realize, \"I shouldn't do this.\" \"If I don't want this to get publicity, \"I shouldn't do this.\" So the whole thing I canceled, but it was great for a few days. And we thought, you know, this is all gonna be on Ted Koppel because somebody's upset about this. And I jokingly asked the business manager of the Jesus Seminar, I said, \"Now much are we paying this guy?\" Anyway, let me share with you some newspaper headlines that have appeared over the years that the Jesus Seminar has been active as a way of indicating that it has been a controversial group. So these are from the last several years. We've been in the news after every one of our semi-annual meetings. And these are just some I've collected. By the way, the news stories about us have been responsibly done. I've been amazed actually at how well journalists have been able to capture what we're doing and express it compactly and so forth, but headline writers are different breed of cat. Headline writers, you know, they gotta write these little short telegram-like messages, and they gotta be the kinds of things that will draw the reader's attention. And sometimes they don't read the story that carefully. They're just looking for the grabber, you know. So let me share some headlines with you. The first couple are kinda mild, and then they get more and more interesting. All of them direct quotations. \"Scholars Challenge Statements Attributed to Jesus.\" True, but a little inflammatory. Next one, \"Scholars Say Jesus Was Often Misquoted.\" I love that one. You know, you kinda get the images from Ronald Reagan days, the President misspoke, you know, or it was a misquoted, okay. Next one is a little bit more of an edge to it. \"Scholars Question Roots of Scripture.\" A little bit more aggressive yet. \"Scholars Seek to Discredit Christ.\" It's a bit stronger. Another one. \"Bible Rewrite Progressing.\" And then after the meeting in which we voted on the end of the world passages and the second coming passages and so forth, this headline here, this one nicely accurate. \"Scholars: Jesus Didn't Speak of Second Coming.\" Nothing wrong with that one. But then in a fundamentalist weekly newsletter reporting on the same meeting, the headline was, \"The Second Coming of Christ Has Been Canceled.\" And the story then went on to report our voting and concluded with a line, \"These scholars will soon learn how wrong they are.\" And then finally, one more headline I'll share with you. \"Why Do These Scholars Call Themselves Christian?\" The answer is of course, we don't. I mean, that is individually, many of us are, and individually, I am a Christian, but as a group, we're not Christians. But you can see that for the person who wrote the headline for that story, there was some kind of incongruity between doing this kind of thing, and have anything to do with the Christian tradition. Well, let me move then to the last major thing I want to talk about, which is the potential usefulness of \"The Five Gospels,\" both as a study tool and also for Christians in search of a greater understanding of their own tradition. And there are four points I want to make here. The first two I'll make quite quickly. And the second too, that is points three and four, I'll develop at somewhat greater length. The first point I want to make about its usefulness is that it has the fine, fresh translation of the gospels. We had to produce our own translation. We had imagined at first that we would use the RSV or the new RSV only to discover that the royalties that we would have had to pay to the copyright holder of the RSV translation were extraordinarily high given that we were to use the whole thing. And so we had no choice except to produce our own translation, which actually slowed us down for two years or so. We kept working during that time, but it slowed down the eventual publication that long. And the scholars' version is actually a very nice translation. It had a number of features I'll mention briefly. First of all, like any fresh translation it can help us to hear the gospels in a new way, just because familiar phrases aren't replaced by other phrases. Some of them are very nice. It also catches some of the vividness of what virtually amounts to the street Greek of Mark's Gospel. Mark's Gospel is written in a very colloquial Greek that constantly is shifting into the present tense, for we had expected to use past tense. Most English translations smooth that out. The scholars version keeps that characteristic of it. It is also a gender-inclusive translation of the gospels, which is important as well. So it's a fine new translation of the gospels. Second way in which it's useful. It's very title, \"The Five Gospels,\" makes us aware that there are more than the canonical four to take into account. In fact, there are many more early Christian gospels than even five, but Thomas, the 5th Gospel, is probably the most only other of the early Christian gospels that has good claim to include some material that is very early in it. And because there's a lot of curiosity about the Gospel of Thomas, let me say just a little bit about it. Then you can ask more about it later if you want. Some of you know quite a bit about Thomas, but many of you may have only the vaguest notion of what it is, so let me tell you. The Gospel of Thomas was basically unknown until the year 1945. Obviously it was known way back in antiquity, but unknown to the the world first in 1,200 years or so, no longer than that, 1,600 years until 1945. In 1945 an Egyptian peasant in the Southern part of Egypt was digging in the ground. I dunno if he was a digging for the sake of planting or what he was doing exactly. But as he was digging, he suddenly bumped into a large earthenware jar that had been carefully sealed at the top. This is a very exciting find for a peasant because why would somebody in the distant past have buried a large clay jar carefully sealed? So the peasant broke it open, hoping to find treasure, and instead, what was in it we now know what is the buried library of a Christian monastery, which for some reason around the year 365, 370 had put all this library into this big pot, sealed it up, and buried in the ground. We assume they were anticipating an invasion or something. We don't really know, but they probably didn't survive or they would've dug it up again. Well, the peasant was not terribly delighted to find all these old manuscripts, took them home, and uses them as kindling for cooking fires for a period of time until one of his neighbors said, \"Well, manuscripts can be worth something too.\" They went to a antiquities dealer in a village some distance away. And now we have this library. The Gospel of Thomas survived intact, but we have no idea what might've been burned. What the Gospel of Thomas is, is 114 sayings, no stories, but 114 sayings attributed to Jesus. And in the judgment of the Jesus Seminar, at least some of those sayings are likely to go back to Jesus himself including some that otherwise have no parallels in the synoptic gospels. So the Gospel of Thomas may provide us with the first new and genuine sayings of Jesus known in almost 2,000 years. Now let me move to my 3rd and 4th points underneath this last topic, why the five gospels can be useful for study or for Christian self-understanding. Two points to go. \"The Five Gospels,\" this volume, very helpfully illustrates the nature of the gospels. Let me unpack that. It makes very clear that the gospels are the developing traditions of the early Christian movement in the decades after Easter. Now scholars have known this for decades indeed, for a couple hundred years or more, but \"The Five Gospels\" will make that manifestly apparent to explain that the earliest written, the earliest canonical Gospel of Mark was written around the year 70, some 40 years after the death of Jesus. The latest of the canonical gospels, probably John, was written by the year 100. So we can speak of the canonical gospels having been written some 40 to 70 years after the death of Jesus. Now during those 40 to 70 years the traditions about Jesus developed. It's not simply that the memory of people during the period of the oral tradition grooved in, or that they arbitrarily would change things for no good reason or something like that. But rather in those 40 to 70 years, people within the early Christian movement continued to experience Jesus, but in a new way as a living spiritual reality, the post-Easter Jesus if you will. And that ongoing experience of Jesus as a living reality transformed their memory and their perception of what Jesus as a historical figure had been like. And so the traditions about the pre-Easter Jesus are added to or they're applied to new situations to change in circumstances in the life of the early Christian movement, so the traditions about Jesus' role. And they say we've know that for a couple of hundred years or more. One of the virtues of \"The Five Gospels\" is that it will make that phenomenon visually apparent. Seeing the sayings of Jesus printed in four colors illustrates that phenomenon. A saying printed in red is the saying that is still quite close to the voice of Jesus. A saying bring it in pink means, this is still pretty close to the voice of Jesus, but it's beginning to be affected by the voice of the community. A saying printed in black to jump to the other end of the spectrum will mean, this is exclusively the voice of the community and not the voice of Jesus at all. And gray is that uncertain, undecided category again. So I can't quite fit it into this particular schema. But you can see how that spectrum from red to black illustrates this phenomenon of the gospels as the growing traditional of the church. Now, why is it useful to be aware of that? It's useful to be aware of that in part because I think it's interesting to know that the tradition grows, but it's useful to be aware of that because of how different that is from two other ways of looking at the gospels. One of those other ways sees the gospels as basically divine products coming rather directly from God. Seeing the gospels as the developing tradition of the community is very different from that. A second way of seeing the gospels from which this differs is almost as common as the first namely, that way of seeing the gospels as if they were straightforward, historical documents written by eyewitnesses or people in touch with eyewitnesses who saw it simply to report what Jesus had said and done. The work of the Jesus Seminar suggests that that is not what the gospels are either. They are not straightforward historical documents. This also changes what it means to believe in the gospels. If you see the gospels as divine products, or as relatively straightforward historical accounts, then believing in the gospels means believing that these really came from God or believing that these really report through history. This other way of seeing the gospels that comes out of modern scholarship suggests that the issue is not believing the gospels at all. The issue is understanding what the gospels for what they are, namely as a mixture of the early Christian movement's memory of Jesus and the early Christian movement's growing convictions about Jesus. The task is to understand their witness to Jesus, not to believe them to be true. All of that is the third point. Helps us understand the nature of the gospels. My final point is \"The Five Gospels\" can help us to understand what is likely to be the voice of Jesus and what is likely to be the voice of the community. To start off briefly with the voice of Jesus though, I want to concentrate more on the voice of the community because that's more of an unexpected vote perhaps. But to suggest what they tell us about the voice of Jesus, what are we most certain about? Well, as I mentioned earlier, 18% of the sayings of Jesus will be printed in red and pink. That means these are the sayings about which there is the greatest positive consensus in contemporary scholarship. If you looked just at those sayings, the picture of Jesus that would emerge from those sayings is a picture of Jesus as a teacher of a subversive wisdom. The red and pink sayings are almost completely aphorisms and parables. Aphorism is a technical term. It means a short, pithy, memorable saying. An aphorism is a great one-liner. Jesus was a speaker of great one-liners. A parable, of course, is a short story. And the aphorisms and parables of Jesus are seen by the Jesus Seminar as well as by most other scholars as the bedrock of the tradition. This is what we are most certain about. And I think it's rather fascinating that the most certain thing we know about the historical Jesus is that he was a speaker of great one-liners in the tower of short stories. And I don't mean that in a diminutive way at all. For both are invitational forms of speech that invite hearers into a radically new way of seeing. They aren't imperatival forms of speech, believe this, do this, but they invite a new way of seeing and I'm struck by how much emphasis there is on the gospels on seeing. There's all the stories of blindness being healed, of course, which is an emphasis upon seeing. There's Zacchaeus climbing the tree in order to see Jesus. And there are these great sayings like, \"The eye is the lamp of the body.\" And I'd always understood that saying before. Actually, I hadn't understood it before. I'd always found it rather opaque before, \"The eye is the lamp of the body\" because I thought the eyes somehow let light into the body. I now understand that very differently. The model is that passage from 119 Psalm, \"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet.\" A lamp is something that illuminates the way the eyes, the lamp of the body, the point being how you see makes all the difference and the one-liners and short stories of Jesus are invitations to see radically differently. I want to spend most of the time developing this point though talking about the significance of the black material, and I do this because it's easy to discount or disregard the black material as if the only thing worth paying attention to were the red and pink. And I found this to be especially true with my undergraduates, though I don't wanna pick on my undergraduates here, but for them, black in \"The Five Gospels\" simply means a loser. The ones that didn't make it. The ones that didn't get a positive vote. But it seems to me that black is deeply significant. It would be wrong to disregard this account. It would be a big mistake, for what the black material does is it puts us in touch with the voice of the community, with how they experience Jesus, what they thought He meant, and how they apply all of this to their lives and times. Now because I'm going to say some very nice things in a few minutes about the voice of the community and how wonderful some of that stuff is, let me start off by saying the voice of the community then as now is a very mixed bag. And some of the material that is in black reflecting the voice of the community, basically, I think, subverts the message of Jesus. And if you subvert the subversive, you're back to the conventional. Some of black material turns the message of Jesus into a new kind of conventional wisdom with eternal rewards and punishments. The classic example of this, I think, is Matthew's Gospel. Matthew's Gospel, it may come as a surprise to some of you, is the only gospel that has lines in it like, \"Casting into the outer darkness, \"there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. \"Cast them into the furnace of fire.\" All of those threats of individual eternal punishment and judgment are peculiar to Matthew. Matthew is changing the message of Jesus into a new understanding of how to get to heaven and how to avoid hell, which I don't think Jesus was concerned about at all. Or other material that's in black that's in this mixed bag kind of category. Some of that material is concerned with the institutionalization of the movement, with the establishment of new authority structures, with the establishment of new social boundaries that distinguished the movement from the rest of the world, and all of this material modifies the more inclusive and egalitarian social vision of Jesus. So the voice of the community is a mixed bag, but some of it is simply wonderful, it seems to me. Obviously that's a value judgment. I guess what I can say is I think some of it is simply wonderful. Sublime, powerfully and evocatively mediating the reality of the post-Easter Jesus. And let me illustrate this as I move toward a conclusion with John's Gospel. I've already mentioned that basically all of John's Gospel will be in black. John's Gospel is seen as the voice of the community. And this means that of all of the great \"I am\" sayings, which I mentioned briefly earlier, \"I am the light of the world. \"I am the bread of life. \"I am the way, the truth, and the life\" and so forth. All of the I am sayings will be in black. We don't think Jesus ever talked this way about himself. Parenthetically, I might add, I'm quite relieved about that. 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Is he simply blowing up the tradition, as it were? I don't think so at all. I think John writes these things about Jesus because the community out of which John comes, and for which John is written, had experienced the risen, living Christ in all of these ways. The post-Easter Jesus now. They had experienced the post-Easter Jesus as the light which had brought them out of their darkness. They experienced the post-Easter Jesus as the way that had led them from death to life. They had experienced the post-Easter Jesus as the source of the spiritual food which nourished them in the midst of their journeys in the present. And the voice of the community, that wonderful language about Jesus in John's gospel thus reflects the vividness of their experiences of the post-Easter Jesus as a living reality. In short, in the voice of the community, we hear the experience of the community. For many of the early Christian movement, Jesus was not simply a figure of the past but a figure of the present, a living spiritual reality whom they still knew in your own experience as one who some, perhaps of them, had known in the flesh and as one whom many of the others knew in the present as the one who came to them unknown as that one still comes to Christians in our time. So bottom line about all of this, I guess what I'm saying is that the five gospels for Christians and for the church can help people to hear both the voice of Jesus and the voice of the community. Both get a glimpse of what Jesus was like as a figure of history and hear the community's witness and testimony to him. And for me, that way of reading the gospels is much richer, much more deeply colored than the monochromatic way of reading the gospels that flows out of the old editions. So I don't have any books with me. I don't need to sell any books to you but I want to commend this volume to you. I think it's a major event in the history of Jesus scholarship and I think is a very interesting learning tool whether you are interested in Jesus simply on historical grounds or because you're part of a faith community which celebrates his life and ongoing presence. So thank you very much. Well, this is the part of the afternoon I like best. I already know what I'm going to say, for the most part. Things come into my head even while I'm talking but now I get to hear what you've been thinking about. So what would you like to ask about or comment about and I see a hand already, so we'll get started here.\r\n\r\n- What about the last supper?\r\n\r\n- The question is, what about the last supper? What did you think of it? Let me do a little joke first. It's a serious joke. One of those learning jokes. Talked to my colleague Doc Cawson and Cawson says, people ask me, do I think there was a last supper? The answer is everybody has a last supper. It's just that most people don't know that it is their last supper. But obviously the question is on the night before he died, did Jesus preside over a special meal involving bread and wine sometimes symbolization of the set? The Jesus seminar thinks not. That material is in black. We think that Jesus, during his lifetime, practiced what Don Cawson calls open commensality and what others of us have called in open table fellowship that as we think one of the most striking features of the historical Jesus activity was festive meals that shattered the social boundaries at the time, by including outcasts and untouchables in these meals which was almost unheard of, well, it was unheard of in that culture. So we think that meal practice was central to the activity of the historical Jesus. But we think the investment of that meal with the ritual commemorating the death of Jesus is a post death development. You think it's after Easter that the early movement began to use that meal also as a way of remembering that. Please. It's basically eeny, meeny, miney, mo. I'm sure the thought processes, the method you mean, basically how do we go about appealing it? The very first two meetings of the Jesus Seminar were devoted to the discussion of methods to see if we could come up with a uniform method and so forth. We discovered by the end of the second meeting, and these are three big meetings, we discovered by the end of the second meeting that we couldn't do that. There is no real unity on the question of method. So we agreed not to agree on that. Having said that, there are clearly some things we are in agreement on and how we use this varies from individual to individual. The basic objective is to be able to discern what is early tradition and what is later tradition. Using an archeological metaphor, what is the earliest layer, the next layer, the next layer, the next layer and how one determines what is earliest is of course your question. One of the things that counts a great deal in the seminar and Don Austin has given the best theoretical description of this, is multiple attestation in an early layer of the tradition. Let me unpack that somewhat jargon phrase. If a given saying or better yet theme or complex of sayings is found in more than one layer of early tradition, then that saying is a very great claim to authenticity, because it was found in more than one source in early tradition. That means that it's unlikely that either of those sources created it out of thin air. Both of those sources must be reflecting something yet earlier and that yet earlier is likely to be the oral teaching of Jesus. So most people at the station in early tradition is probably the single greatest counter. Then beyond that, lots of things start to count. Let me mention just one more. If, and this criterion works the other way. It's a way of pointing inauthenticity. The first one pointed to authenticity. If a saying reflects a known developing tendency of the early community, then it's likely to be the product of that known developing tendency. To put that differently, we try to discount the demonstrable tendencies of the developing tradition. Last comment about that, if I can pull it back. Shoot, and it was a good one. It might come back in a little on my next piece. I'll just let it go for now. Now I have to let it go for now. It was liberating. Yeah. Did the Dead Sea Scrolls play any significant part in our work? Basic answer is no but then let me explain a bit. The Dead Sea Scrolls provide us with firsthand evidence for the life and thought of a secular movement within early Judaism. And that's very interesting material and very important in terms of illuminating the world of Jesus. Though because it's a withdrawal movement, that is a movement that basically withdrew from society. It's questionable to what extent it can tell us about the public world Jesus operated in but it does give us firsthand knowledge of what one group secretarian youth got involved in. In the judgment of most scholars, it doesn't tell us anything directly about Jesus, not just that he isn't referred to, but he doesn't seem to have been influenced by what we find in the Dead Sea scrolls either. Indeed, where we can see points of relationship between Jesus and the Dead Sea scrolls, it's usually opposition. The community that produced the Dead Sea scrolls is strongly committed to purity in sharp social boundaries. Jesus basically subverts the theory system and evades the sharp social boundaries of his world. So to the extent that there is some relationship to the ideas found in the Dead Sea scrolls is largely repudiation of them. So it didn't figure it directly but simply helped us to understand the background of that social world there. Please. Okay, a two fold question. One, how do we know about the early Christian community? Does that knowledge come from the Bible itself? We know about that from other places. And then the first part of the question is what is the basis for thinking of the gospels as a human product that can be investigated this way rather than as a divine product that has a kind of guaranteed a truth because of inspiration and so forth. To deal with the first question first, in some ways, there is a presuppositional choice involved here that is whether to see the Bible as a divine product or as a human product is so foundational that one's choice at that level effects everything else when it says about it. It's a presuppositional choice in that sense. And so what are the grounds for making one presuppositional choice rather than the other? For me, the most obvious or evident reason for choosing to see the gospels as a human product is actually to read the gospels carefully, to read them closely. Especially if you read them in parallel columns, so you have Matthew in this column, Mark in this column, Luke in this column, and if you read them that way you can see that in telling the same story, most often they differ from each other. Sometimes it's just the choice of words. Sometimes it goes beyond the choice of words to the change of details. Sometimes it goes beyond a change of details to a really major change. Now, if one thinks that all three of them are divine products with a kind of divine guarantee, then how do you account for that? How do you account for, I don't know, God telling the same historical story three different ways, especially if you want to claim all three of them are historical. You can imagine why God might tell the same symbolic story three different ways. Maybe you can imagine that. But you know, to use a classic example, either Jesus rode into Jerusalem on one donkey or on two donkeys. He could not have ridden into Jerusalem on two donkeys and one donkey simultaneously. I mean, that's a minor example. You might say, well what difference does that make? It makes a difference only at the level of whether or not you're thinking of these as human products or divine products. If they're a human products we can understand why Matthew passed the second donkey because that's what was done. So I think the most compelling reason for seeing the gospels as human products, as the product and the developing tradition to these early Christians movements is a close and careful reading of the gospels especially seeing the parallel columns where you can see the differences so easily. Again, my colleague, John Dominic Cawson, I've spoken about so much because I know him and like him but probably because he's the premier Jesus scholar in North America right now, has a nice way of putting it. He said, most of us read the gospels vertically. By that, meaning we start with chapter one of Matthew and read through Matthew, and then we read through Mark and then we read through Luke and then we read through John, not that any of us has ever sat down and done all four of them in an afternoon or whatever, but we read them vertically. To read the gospels horizontally, Crawson says, and by horizontally he means seeing them arranged in parallel columns, then looking across the columns here doing this error of comparison, makes it readily apparent or at least makes it clear that the most plausible explanation of what you're seeing is that we have human authors here at work modern lying tradition. Longish response, but I'll stop there. The other question, how would we know about the life of the early Christian community? It's an important question because we're talking about this is the voice of community not the voice of Jesus himself. Some of that is from other parts of the New Testament. We know some things about the life of the early Christian community from the letters of Paul, the Book of Acts, other writers in the New Testament. Some of it is from studies of the first century Jewish social world. And what we know is going on in that world in the second half of the first century. And some of it is reading between the lines of the gospels themselves. That is the gospels themselves if you see them as the product of the early community also provide evidence for what the concerns of the early community was. So there's a kind of circularity involved in that with a kind of circularity familiar to anybody working with ancient documents or almost anything . Longish response but I hope that was helpful to a number of you. Right here. Okay, the question referred to the saying of Jesus on the cross, my God, my God, why has God forsaken me? And what do we think about that saying? That's the last word of Jesus according to Mark's gospel. Mark is the earliest of the canonical gospels. And it's the only word on the cross recorded by Mark's gospel. In earlier generations, creates thought that that one for sure was authentic, figuring that no early Christian could invent a saying which had Jesus speaking of God forsaking him. In fact, the radical German critic Cheadle, was his first name Julius? Anyway, Cheadle right in the 1890s said, this is one of five sayings that we are absolutely certain goes back to Jesus. In the judgment of the Jesus seminar, it is not authentic though it's printed in black. The reason being, not that we don't think Jesus could ever have felt that much pain or anguish or that desolated. We can imagine that, but that most members of the seminar are very suspicious whenever Jesus starts quoting scripture. They think that it's the early community that is more likely to be interpreting the life of Jesus with the quotation of scripture rather than Jesus himself quoting Scripture. I'm not sure I agree with that myself but that is the word of the seminar. Please.\r\n\r\n- What do you feel about Jesus said establishing the hope of Peter? Was that ?\r\n\r\n- That's implied. It's found only in the gospel of Matthew, Matthew 16, and following roughly. And that's part of the movement towards institutionalization in the early Christian movement, the establishment of new authority structures. And so in the most scholars outside of the Jesus seminar including even my hunch is the majority of Catholic scholars would say that does not go back to Jesus. Now you ask the pope, it might be a different question. Yeah, please.\r\n\r\n- In regards to our church, going to hell so forth and the devil. Go back to pre-Easter. Do you have any reference? How far would they be?\r\n\r\n- Are there any threats of hell fire that we think go back to Jesus? I think the answer within the five gospels is no. I think that's right, that there wouldn't be a single trap of hell passage printed in red or pink in the five gospels. I'm basically agreeing with that myself. I don't think Jesus was primarily concerned about the eternal post death stage of people. I think he probably thought that death was not the end. I don't think he would have denied an afterlife but I think he would have said that's not what being religious is about. That's not what his ministry was about. It wasn't about doing something now for the sake of avoiding hell later or getting to heaven later. I think there's real strong unanimity within not only the Jesus Seminar but I would think broadly speaking, I speak to scholars about that.\r\n\r\n- How about paradise in heaven?\r\n\r\n- I don't know that the Jesus Seminar has a position about that, except that it doesn't think Jesus talked about that very much. My own sense again, is that Jesus might very well have thought that death was not the end, but again I don't see him as being concerned to teach people how to get there, you know and that was so much a popular level of Christianity for me growing up. I think for many of us growing up, if you grew up in a very liberal denomination, that being a part of it, but I didn't grow up in a fundamentalist denomination. I did not grow up in one. And yet it was so clear to me as a child and lasted a lot longer than that, that what Christianity was about finally was doing something or believing something now for the sake of eternal life or avoiding eternal damnation later. And so I know it can sometimes be surprising to people who hear a New Testament scholar reviewed scholars saying that's not what Jesus was about. I think that's not it.\r\n\r\n- You spoke about the reference to Jesus as son of God, son of man, and indicated those came out of the community thought, the background. What reference in red letter words have helped Jesus understood himself?\r\n\r\n- Okay, is there anything in pink or red about Jesus' own self understanding in the Mark gospels? I'd have to check but I think the saying about a prophet is without honor in his own country, I think that's in pink. I think we're willing to say that Jesus might well have thought himself as a prophet. I think that's the only one. And then, you know, part of the reason for that, I mean for being really skeptical about the other ones is because the other ones multiply in the later levels of the tradition. So it's the demonstrable tendency of the tradition to add titles which makes us suspicious of titles even when they appear quite early in the tradition is simply the earliest reflection of that tendency. In addition to that reason for saying we don't think the titles go back to Jesus, we also think that it's unlikely that Jesus spent any amount of time wondering about who he really was and you know whether he was maybe even more than a prophet, I mean it's just really hard for us to imagine that the Jesus who emerges from historical study was the kind of person that wouldn't be concerned with his own identity statements.\r\n\r\n- Would stoic ministry be a factor?\r\n\r\n- Maybe so. Yeah, yeah. If his ministry had gone on 30 or 40 years and people started saying to him now, look, you gotta be somebody special because look at all this stuff that's happening here, maybe one could imagine him begrudgingly accepting something maybe. So I think the short peer ministry could be a factor of the equation. Okay, the Thomas gospel and it was the transfiguration mention? Okay, yeah. I'll tell you some more about the Thomas gospel. There's no transfiguration found in the gospel of Thomas though there's some language in the gospel of Thomas that might possibly be what led to your question. Gospel of Thomas. I already mentioned it's sayings only, 114 sayings of Jesus, probably an interesting thing. The introduction to Thomas says the sayings of the living Jesus. So they offer Thomas sees himself is reporting words of the living Jesus and I think we understand the living Jesus to mean, in this case, not simply the pre-Easter Jesus, but a currently-living Jesus and the author of the gospel of Thomas is Judas Thomas Didymos. What's interesting is that Thomas is not a name in Aramaic, but it's the Arabic word for twin and that Didymos not a name in Greek but it's the Greek word for twin. And the gospel of Thomas claims to be by Judas the twin of Jesus. We don't think he really was the twin of Jesus, but we think it's somebody who was claiming to know the living Jesus so well that he could speak on his behalf like the alter ego of Jesus almost. By the way, it's interesting here. Even the possibility that Jesus had a twin, what happens to the Virgin birth, you got twins? Anyway, we'll let that go for now. So big word on Thomas. I'm gonna use rough percentages here because I haven't actually found the verses in the Bible but my impression is that about, I'd say 50% of Thomas is pretty weird stuff, saying right on the edge of opacity to gobbledygook and one hopes that Jesus didn't say them. The other half of Thomas is about equally divided between material that has parallels in the synoptic gospels, in other words, oh, I recognize that saying. I've seen that before. It's in Matthew, Mark, or Luke. And interestingly enough, sometimes the saying in Thomas will seem to be an earlier form than what we find in Matthew, Mark, or Luke. The other quarter of Thomas is material that isn't gobbledygook, isn't terribly opaque, sounds quite a bit like the voice of Jesus but has no parallels in the other gospels. And it's that quarter that is the most interesting because this may contain sayings of Jesus we didn't know about before. The Jesus Seminar was cautious with Thomas so that we didn't vote a lot of that 25% authentic but there are a couple passages we get. I'll recite two of them for you. One of them is white gray. We don't really use white gray but white gray means something that almost made it into pink and the other one's pink. Both of them are kingdom of God sayings and they are very interesting, it seems to me. The first one is the bright pink one and it concerns when is the kingdom of God. That is many people in first century Palestine thought the Kingdom of God's a future coming event that would involve divine intervention and grasp the resurrection of the dead and so forth. So the kingdom of God is future. Oh, actually, this is the pink one. This is the when one. His disciples asked Jesus, on what day will the kingdom of God come? When is the kingdom of God? Jesus said it will not come by expectation. They will not say, look here or look there for behold. Here's the punchline. For behold, the kingdom of God is spread out on the earth only people do not see it. The point of the saying being the kingdom of God is not a future reality. The kingdom of God is here right now, spread out on the earth and the problem is our own minds. Very interesting. The other Thomas saying I'll report to you is this bright pink one. This concerns where is the kingdom of God, in heaven, whatever, okay. Jesus said if the ones who lead you say there is the kingdom in the sky, and there's nice wordplay here because heaven, sorry, the great word we translate sky also can be translated heaven. So you can say give those who lead you say there is the kingdom in heaven or in the sky then the birds will get there before you do. If they say to you it is in the sea then a fish will get there before you. One assumes those are playful parts. Then the punchline. Rather, the kingdom of God is within you. But it doesn't stop there. We know that already removed. The next lines are and outside you. So the kingdom of God is not simply a warm place in your heart or something like that. It is in you and also outside you, the implication being it is all around us and we are within it. Something like that. So longish response, but that's a bit more about Thomas. Please. Okay, how do we incorporate some of this into the Christian life? Yeah, I have lots of suggestions about how to incorporate this into the Christian life. One of the most important things is to be part of a Christian community that's willing to talk about things like this, because if you're part of the Christian community where this is off limits you obviously will feel increasingly alienated and as secretive and not seeing things the way the others people in your community does. So that's one of the most important things. Second thing is either to find a good talking partner to find a good reading material that reaches you at the level where you are so that you can grow with it. And the third thing, and this is something I'm saying to all of you, well, I'm saying it to all of you, third thing is to be really clear in one's own mind that one's relationship to God does not depend on having correct opinions about things. I think people who don't know a bit about biblical scholarship can have a perfectly appropriate nourishing life-giving relationship with God. I think people with tremendously erroneous opinions can still have a solid relationship to God. So I'm just encouraging you and anybody else who's wondering about that not to think that correct Christian faith or correct Christian belief means getting straight about a lot of stuff like this. This can be enormously helpful material for growing in one's Christian understanding but what's at stake in this is not the issue of proper relationship with God. Those are very general remarks, but I hope it will. Please. Right. What does the Jesus Seminar say about the virgin birth? And you realize it's not a saying of Jesus. That's actually a good opening for me to mention that the Jesus Seminar has begun the second phase of its work. When we began, we only imagined one phase. So we didn't see this as a first phase at all. We just saw a task and the task is the first defined it was to examine of all of the sayings attributed to Jesus. And of course, as we completed, as we were nearing the end of that, we realized that we weren't writing to stop it. We were enjoying this enough and being stimulated and nurtured enough by this that we wondered if there was a way of continuing this. And the obvious thing to do was to go on to what we now call the deeds tradition, the reports of either things Jesus did or things that happened to Jesus. So that would include the birth stories and the death stories and the appearance stories and so forth. So we haven't gotten to the Virgin birth yet. In the five gospels, there is a sort of neutral gray color that the text as a whole is bringing in and then black and gray and red and pink are differentiated from that neutral gray. So it's in that color right now, a neutral gray. I can tell you with 99% certainty that the Virgin birth will be in black and I can spell out the reasons for that too. And then I can also go on to talk about how the stories of the Virgin birth are extraordinarily powerful as symbolic narratives and that their truth focus is not dependent on their historicity but I'm sure there'll be in black. Right, exactly. Okay, how do we approach his actions set in the miracles the raisings of the dead, was there another one? Casting out demons. We have started to work on those stories and one of the main, I'll indicate a methodological difficulty and then make a direct response. There was a real difference in looking at the reports of Jesus' deeds compared to looking at the reports of his sayings. Many of his sayings appear in more than one source. So you can compare them from two different sources but for science and development and so forth. Most of the deeds of Jesus are recorded in only once source, namely Mark's gospel. There are very few deeds in Matthew and Luke that Matthew and Luke do not simply copy from Mark. So for most of the deeds tradition, we have one source which makes the investigation of that, as I say, quite different. Having noted that methodological difference, the Jesus Seminar like most modern scholars makes a distinction between what we call the nature miracles and healing miracles. The nature miracles would be multiplication of those walking on water, raisings of the dead, and the healing miracles would be all the healing stories plus exorcisms. We've done some strong holding on that. 80% of us think that Jesus performed healings and what both he and his contemporaries experienced as it believed to be exorcisms and the carefulness of that language is we don't know if there really is such a thing as demon possession and exorcism but we know that people have symptoms of that and that people are able to get rid of those symptoms or their exorcist is able to get rid of those symptoms by performing an exorcism. We know all that and we think Jesus did that kinda stuff. And on the nature of miracles where we haven't finished our voting on yet, clearly the direction those votes are going is that we see the nature miracles as symbolic stories. But the healings and exorcisms, we think yeah. He did that kind of thing. Please. Do you have anything more specific in mind? Yeah, I wouldn't expect that they have that kind of effect of actually changing let's say ritual practices or the words used in worship services and so forth in Christian community. I think the change it might have is that the level of adult education and at the level of Christian self understanding and Christian understanding of these traditions as developing traditions. Let me illustrated that with a very concrete example. The Jesus Seminar doesn't think the Lord's prayer goes back to Jesus. I'll explain that a little bit. By the way, our voting on the Lord's prayer got more press publicity than anything else we ever did. Our voting on the Lord's prayer was on the front page of 200 different Sunday newspapers in North America the weekend we did. And it amazed us because we saw our voting on the Lord's prayer as very non-controversial. Now I'll explain a little bit about that. If you just look at the Lord's prayer in early Christian sources you discover it's there in three different versions. One version in Matthew six, the second version in Luke 11, the third version in the book of the which is a very late first century work that didn't make it into the New Testament. And the Lord's prayer that we use in church is actually closest to the . Next closest to Matthew and most distant from Luke. Luke's version of the Lord's prayer is very simple. It starts like this in English, father, your name be holding, your feet compound, and so forth. That on the other hand is our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be your name. They kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven and so forth. Clearly the is a little bit beyond Matthew. Clearly what has happened is that Matthew and the author of the have adapted a simpler form of the Lord's prayer to make it more suitable for use in public worship. It's all done in couplets. There's a nice rhythm to it. It's solemn and all of that. And so the earliest form of the Lord's prayer is in Luke's gospel but even that we don't think as a connected whole goes back to Jesus. For one thing, we can't imagine Jesus being the kind of figured he was saying to his followers I want you to memorize this prayer. Instead, we think that what's in the Lord's prayer may reflect prayer fragments of Jesus himself and things he was known to pray about or be concerned about and the real Christian movements pulls those together into a prayer to use by the movement. We kind of bring it back to where you started the question in a moment, where it came out of the Lord's prayer is that the opening word father which is probably Abba in Aramaic which is the Aramaic word for Papa, it's an intimate form of address for God. We think father plus for of the petitions in Luke probably go back to Jesus, but not as a connected whole but as these rare fragments or whatever. So we sometimes say in the seminar all buy the four petitions go back to Jesus, it sounds like a Swedish folk group. Anyway, bring it all back in. The fact that we're pretty sure, and scholars have been pretty sure for or a hundred years or more with regards to the Lord's prayer, the fact that we're pretty sure that the Lord's prayer doesn't go back to Jesus is no reason to stop using it in the life of the church. It's the product of the developing tradition of the church. And maybe one mistake, perhaps especially Protestants, I'm not thinking I knew a Protestant too, made one mistake especially Protestants have made over the centuries is to undervalue church tradition. To say, wow, if it doesn't go back to Jesus, I'm not going to have a thing to do with it. I know many of us really say that but that's part of the process here at the Protestant reformation. And so the fact that something is the product of the community does not necessarily make it worth any less, just changes our understanding. Well, we are at 3:30 which is our agreed upon ending time. I appreciate your being here, your interest and your patience with all of this. Give you all my best greetings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45537/file/118513#t=0.0,2683.97714"}]}]}]}