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It has been my personal honor and privilege to be associated with the committee on lectures, the Institute on World Affairs and the Institute on National Affairs for the good work they do in educating our greater university community of the truly crucial issues, which confront all of us as human beings, citizens of the world, Americans and lastly, but certainly not least as Iowans. I arrived in Ames personally, some two years ago to from the outset complete my education after nearly a ten-year interruption. As I look backward, I returned to college in order to uncover what I truly consider the very best that is within me. I believe I have roughly approximated that rather lofty ideal. One must never stop reaching because reaching is the path to growing, growing is the path to learning and learning is truly what inspires us, and it is truly what empowers us. I would like to begin to repay the debt that I have incurred along this rather winding path of personal discovery. First, to this great land grant institution, an institution which provided admission to me, excellent financial aid, an institution which provided the support services necessary for the realization of my personal ambitions. Iowa state university of science and technology must be protected, must be preserved, and must be enhanced for future generations of students who possess the burning desire to learn and succeed. Second, to the committee on lectures and the great opportunities it offers to all students without regard to race, gender, age, nationality to enrich themselves. And to Pat Miller executive secretary of the committee on lectures, as well as the coordinator of the lectures program. She has acted periodically as psychiatrist, advisor, mentor all rolled up into one very special woman. Offering those very important yet simple lessons of life, like, you know, how to get along with people, acting as a sea of serenity and stability, when those spasms of paranoia sometimes sweep me and she'll say now then everyone really does like you. Ladies and gentlemen the old world order is gone. Since the late 1940s, there have been in place a bipolar world system which was an offspring of the cold war. The system was composed on the one hand of the United States and the rest of the NATO countries. These nations may by and large be characterized by free market economies and democratically elected governments, on the other hand, there was the Soviet Union and the rest of the Warsaw Pact nations. Those countries may be characterized by centrally planned economies and socialist governments. Our recent history, however, has witnessed the destruction of the Berlin wall, the reunification of Germany, the dismemberment of the Soviet Union, the disintegration of the Warsaw Pact as well as the relative decline of American political and economic power. One may very well ask what's next? Are we entering into a period of time somewhat similar to that period after world war one where the sun was truly setting on a declining British Empire struggling to retain its hegemonic status, and a rather reluctantly rising United States, a wash in isolation in psychology? Will a new world order be formulated bringing a complete global acceptance of free markets and representative democracy? Will the end of the cold war bring other wars, trade wars, the wars between the rich and the poor? What effect will this new world order have on labor, refugees, the media and the environment or is it truly the end of history? That is 'What Are We?' is all about. The students, faculty and staff of the Institute on World Affairs have worked rather diligently to bring to you the greater university community, the finest minds from around the world to speak on this crucial topic. Before I introduce our keynote speaker this evening, I'm reminded of a quotation of a man of the Midwest. One of history's great architects, urban planners, social philosophers, humanitarians, Frank Lloyd Wright who wrote, \"So the genius of our democracy still lies hidden in the eternal law of change, growth our best hope, consistent and understanding at last what other civilizations have only known about and kept to themselves, comforted meantime in the realization that all one does either for or against truth serves it equally well.\" And now to our keynote Robin Wright. She is a native of Ann Arbor, Michigan, and a graduate of the University of Michigan, having earned a master of arts degree in 1971. She was visiting professor at Duke University and appoint a fellow with Yale University. She currently is the Washington correspondent for the Los Angeles times and was senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Robin Wright provided commentary on the Gulf war for CBS, NBC and ABC news. And her books include Flashpoints Promise and Peril of a New Era, In the name of God : the Khomeini decade and Sacred rage : the wrath of militant Islam. She has just returned from a three week trip covering the Soviet Union for the New Yorker. Ladies and gentlemen, it gives the Institute on World Affairs great pleasure to introduce to you Robin Wright.\r\n\r\n- Thank you Van. I'm not sure you left me much to talk about. I've come through nine times zones, four continents and three seasons to be with you today. I will say that I didn't think there'd be any place besides the Soviet Union where the weather could be this bad but I guess trying to make me feel at home. It's a special privilege to be with you tonight at a moment, a turning point in history, a period of history that's moving so quickly that every week seems to out do the last in terms of shattering news events. Did the breadth of global change over the past two years and the astonishing piece of it are arguably unparalleled in human history? Can't hear me very well? I'm not even sure it's on.\r\n\r\n- It is on.\r\n\r\n- But the changes that have swept the world since the fateful autumn of 1989, mark a lot more than simply the end of the cold war. The demise of old tyrannies and the opening of new political and economic freedoms. They also mark the fulfillment of centuries of revolutionary dreams. First, the most important ideologies for Marxism and military dictatorships to apartheid have finally begun to succumb to the universal cry for universal rights in places as different as the Soviet Union and Chile and South Africa. The premises of the age of reason are at long last being accepted worldwide. Second, empowerment of the individual as originally promised by the enlightenment is finally making its way down to the common man and woman in the poorest and least developed parts of the globe. The world's last serves at least in principle are being liberated. The world's last empires are on the verge of formal collapse. And third, the progress of the scientific era has given humanity unprecedented knowledge and control over everything from space exploration and genetic engineering to the artificial intelligence of computers. We no longer need to depend on myths for answers and sustenance. By some reckonings almost 500 years have passed since mankind experienced anything comparable. The modern era, was marked 500 years ago, when Europe's victims began consolidation into the embryos of modern states and empires. When the great geographic explorations began to chart the globe and bring together diverse people into a common and acknowledged single world. When the first Fragile links of communication among distant continents were established, and when scientific breakthroughs opened the way for what eventually became the industrial revolution. The current changes are leading us in whole new directions. In terms of politics, traditional nation states are beginning to be transformed and even replaced. In terms of discoveries, as the last earthly frontiers have been charted, we are looking at the possibilities of space. And in terms of innovation, development now depends far more in technology and information than on access to iron ore and chemicals of control of large land masses. Instead of exploiting the earth wealth, we are now trying to learn how to preserve it. In other words, the changes involve more than just shifts and political or economic systems, change now centers on the very premises of progress that have led mankind not only in our lifetimes, but for a whole era. But for all the hope of a new balance of power that will in turn lead to a new peace, the transition to a much heralded new world order is unfortunately so far very disorderly. The Soviet conversion has deteriorated into a serious economic morass. A week ago today, I was in the Soviet Union and the dollar was worth 32 rubles, today it's worth 47. Next week, they're predicting, it'll go as high as 70. The economy is disintegrating literally on a daily basis. In South Africa, the end of apartheid has been stalled by a brutal and bloody new round of violence. Countries from Yugoslavia to India are unraveling under the pressure of internal passions, we once thought were long forgotten or submerged. Other countries struggling to make transitions to free market economies from Peru to Mozambique are threatened with crushing poverty they cannot reverse an ever-growing populations, they cannot control. And in our country, we faced the biggest debt of any nation in history. A huge trade imbalance, more than one in seven living in poverty and 10% or 23 million living off food stamps. Almost scandalous inequities in healthcare, virtual inaction on the plight of the homeless and a population so apathetic in the midst of all those problems they don't even turn out to vote. In other words, what lies ahead is as challenging as it is hopeful. The paradox is in part natural, transitions from one era to another have historically been troubled times. This one has already demonstrated it will be no exception. The final 10 years of the 20th century, the final 10 years of the second millennium will be just as messy and uncomfortable. But part of the paradox is also a trademark of the new era. Indeed, I believe paradox is likely to be one of the dominant characteristics of the new era. Issues and trends evolving in desperate and even unfamiliar ways. Powerful currents surging in different even occasionally opposite directions. Based on two years of traveling all six inhabited continents for a new book that comes out next month, I've chosen three broad trends to identify today to provide a taste of the future. And of course, if you're interested in reading any more of my books call flash points. Each trend will have a major role in shaping the era ahead and each reflects the paradox we're going to face. The first trend is in politics. Today, there are more democratic nations than at any time in history, not only in the former East bloc. For the first time in history, all of Latin America is democratic. 16 of the 50 African nations are moving toward democracy while others are under pressure to follow suit. Just last week, Zambia held the first multi-party elections in 19 years and voted out of office the one man who had ruled in Lusaka since independence from Britain in 1964. The wave sweeping toward democracy worldwide is truly of title proportions. Unfortunately, there's a paradox. The bottom line is that while the end of the 1980s, marked the challenge to communism and to socialism, the end of the 1990s is likely to be barked by the challenge to democracy, even among some of our allies and friends. The reason as history tells us democracies usually survive only in countries where the majority of people live above the poverty line. And in many of the new democracies we are now celebrating, the majority of people live at or even below the poverty line. Democracy as it turns out is very expensive. As they stand now, many of these countries, mainly in the third world, mainly in the East bloc simply do not have the funds, expertise or technology to sustain democracy. They have limited and in some cases no resources to transform their economies, to convert old industries into more viable modern businesses. To buy new equipment or even to provide the new forms of education needed to stabilize or secure, what are now only the seeds of democracy. Unfortunately, the United States and other industrialized nations in the West are no longer in a position to keep poor nations alive indefinitely. We're basically broke. Western Europe is going to have trouble just bailing out Eastern Europe. Japan which has already replaced the United States as the world's largest donor is a small country. And because of the worldwide recession, private industry and private banks have limits on what they can gamble with and still unstable for an environments without jeopardizing their own survival. And if democracy is not seen as a means of bringing a better life to people then disillusionment is bound to set in. I emphasize bringing a better life for democracy is perceived today not only as the freedom to vote, freedom of the press and the right to dissent, freedom of religion, it's also perceived as the right to prosperity. When new democracies do not lead to improved economies desperation and disillusionment is almost certain delayed. The higher crime and unprecedented of unprecedented proportions already evident in several Latin American nations. Drug use and prostitution, the latter already a serious problem in several former East bloc countries. And most dangerous of all the eventual crumbling of democracies into authoritarian rule already evident in places like Guatemala and a real possibility in parts of the Soviet Union. The disillusionment with democracy is already visible in two cases. Excuse me, I brought back a central African bug with me from Moscow as well. In Peru, democracy has been struggling to take root since 1980. Since then the country has had three democratic presidential elections. In recent public opinion polls, indicate greater fear and disillusionment than ever about whether democracy can solve Peru's many problems. One small statistic from the World Bank explains why? In 1985, less than 1% of Peruvians could not afford to buy food, by 1990, the figure had risen to 17%. Desperate people simply can't afford the transition period. In Poland, the country that led the way in confronting communist rule in Eastern Europe a decade ago, the first fully free parliamentary election since world war two was held at the end of October, the results were stunning. Disenchantment was so deep that almost 60% of the electorate didn't bother to vote. And those who did vote, we're so divided that no party gained more than 12%. The deeply fragmented new parliament will have some two dozen different political parties vying to enact their diverse programs in the national legislature. Most telling, however, is the fact that the former Communist Party now renamed the Democratic Left Alliance came in second. Indeed, most of the parties that did well, advocated greater government intervention in economic affairs reflecting the popular anxiety over rising unemployment in the threat of mass layoffs. Democracy in many countries is literally too expensive, a luxury they may want, but they can't afford. In other words, I would contest Mr. Fukuyama's claim and he will be here next week to talk to you that this is indeed the end of history. I think democracy survival in many parts of the world, is far from assured. The second trend is to the challenge, to the basic unit of politics, of commerce, of international diplomacy and even of warfare in the modern era. The challenge to the nation state, is something we take for granted, we don't even think about. Because the consolidation of nation states out of city states, has long been considered one of the facts and great feats of the modern era, but the nation state may now be becoming obsolete for several reasons. One is the very definition. Throughout the modern era, we've acquainted nation with state but in fact, a nation as a people and a state is a form of government. And as we're discovering often painfully, nations and states are not synonymous. Many countries from Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union to neighboring Canada are relearning just how many nations are living in one state. In Canada, there are at least two nations if you discount the Indians. Yugoslavia, there are six republics, but 24 nations spread among them. The Soviet Union has 15 republics, but 104 different nations or ethnic groups living in 15 republics. And now each is aware of the right to be empowered, and each now wants some degree of control over their lives. Another reason the nation state is being challenged is because modern ideologies, whether democratic or socialist have emphasized the sociopolitical concept of the melting pot. The assimilation of nations in a single state, either by choice as in democracies or by force, as in communist states, the name of a common political or economic good. But again, as we're discovering the melting pot often doesn't work except in culturally homogenous countries like Japan or in countries such as the United States with sufficient flexibility and freedom and wealth to accommodate the demands and needs of a widely diverse population. And as many groups in this country will tell you we still don't do it all that well. Separate identity be it through national, cultural, racial or religious roots is proving stronger in a pull to assimilate. The result is that many modern nation states are now headed toward disintegration. But there's a paradox again, many communities are at the same time moving toward integration, toward joining together with other nations in new regional blocs. The model has been established by the European Community which will unite 12 nations in a single bloc with a common currency and common passports and many common laws by 1992, just two months away. Last month that union expanded the 12 European Community nations agreed with the seven nations of the European Free Trade Association to form the world's largest trade bloc by 1993. New European economic area, extending from the Arctic to the Mediterranean will account for 43% of the world's trade by 1993. The former Soviet Union is headed in a similar direction. After the process of disintegration over the past year in which all 15 republics have declared either sovereignty or full independence, Russia, and seven of the 14 other republics signed an agreement while I was in the Soviet Union, uniting them in a new economic bloc. Little notice was a second agreement signed among five Asian republics within the Soviet Union that will also lead them on a separate path, but together. Yugoslavia, Croatia and Slovenia, two provinces trying to break away are now looking to join the European Community, both have already established offices in Brussels. The same is true in Czechoslovakia as the Czech and Slovak republics, talk of separating from each other but at the same time, integrating alongside each other into the European Community. The trends not limited to Eastern Europe as separatism in Quebec grows, Canada may well disintegrate after 124 years of unity. But the prospect is less frightening for Canada as well as its neighbors than it was during the first round of secessionist talk in the 1960s. Because Quebec wants to integrate under the North American free trade zone that will group Canada with the United States and Mexico into a new regional bloc. The bottom line, the whole concept of co sovereignty is changing as the nation state becomes less viable because of the growing interaction and interdependency of the world in trade and political formulations in diplomacy and as we saw in the Persian Gulf, even in mo fare. The world map will change accordingly, again, often in paradoxical ways. The year I was born, 57 nations came together for the first time in the United Nations. This year with the induction of six new members there are 166. 90 countries, more than half of the world's total of 173 have become independent in my lifetime. Despite all that I'm not all that old. As the world's last two major empires the Soviet and the Chinese began to crumble, others will be added to the world roster. Same may be true as well in Africa and Latin America and Asia. So the new era will witness a sorting out process and in the end, a redefinition of the basic unit of governance and a redrawing of the world map. The third trend is in the nature of warfare. As with the sweeping political changes, we have much to celebrate in terms of recent conflicts. Many of the more than 127 conflicts that have plagued the world in the cold war era have either recently been resolved or are headed toward resolution. There's even a glimmer of hope and on this occasion, I stressed glimmer more than hope that the world's longest ongoing conflict involving five modern wars will be diffused and maybe even eventually, again I stress eventually resolved at the process that was begun at Madrid between Arabs and Israelis this week. But at the same time, there is a paradox. Well, the threat of an apocalyptic nuclear showdown between the East and the West has indeed diminished. The danger of conflict has not abated because the arena and the flashpoints of conflict have shifted. In the modern age, conflict has predominantly pitted country against country over ideology or territory. Today, however warfare is increasingly within societies a pattern that will surely intensify as national, ethnic and religious passions also intensify. And explaining the strife in their own countries, Mikhail Gorbachev, and various other leaders have all started using a common word, it's called Lebanonization. Modeled on the war where I spent five years of my life in Beirut. The enemy is no longer just outside, it is often within. A pattern visibly being played out in South Africa, Pakistan, Yugoslavia, India the Philippines, Iraq during two uprisings after the Gulf war over issues that are still unresolved, several ethnic groups within the Soviet Union. The Danger of conflict is also not abating for a second reason. Although the US this fall has taken an initiative to eliminate massive stocks of nuclear weapons, the paradox is that the threat of nuclear or major wars may actually increase because of a simultaneous trend, small countries acquiring big weapons. Worldwide, the hope of peace has been dissipated because of the spread of three deadly weapons of mass destruction nuclear capabilities, chemical or biological weapons and ballistic missiles beyond the control of superpowers to a host of smaller powers like Iraq. But the crisis the outside world faced in Iraq was not unique. In the third world, at least 10 countries have, or are working on nuclear capability. At least 22 countries have, or are working on chemical weapons and or biological weapons. And at least 25 have, or are working on ballistic missiles that will allow them to target neighbors or nearby countries as Iraq did against Saudi Arabia, Israel, Bahrain and Qatar. In the hands of unstable dictatorial and insecure regimes, the potential for these weapons of mass destruction to be used, is much higher than when they are in the hands of major powers who at least balance each other off and thus create an incentive, not to use them. I'm not trying to justify any country having weapons of mass destruction. I frankly I am for banning them all. But the reason arms proliferation in the third world is more dangerous than in the industrialized world, is that unlike the arrangements worked out between United States, Soviet Union and Europe there are no controls, there are no treaties, there are no hotlines, no mechanism for deterrence. And the threat is not just on paper. Last year, we witnessed the first nuclear scare in a third world as India and Pakistan, both countries believed to have nuclear capabilities went on full alert because of the escalating conflict over Kashmir. The bottom line, while the war with Iraq had many unique characteristics that make it unlikely to be repeated, the kind of war fought in the Persian Gulf with Scud missiles, chemical weapons and the threat of them at least, and the potential for the use of nuclear weapons by a third world country is likely to be the model for warfare for the future. Now, I'm the first to admit that all of this may seem rather bleak. I've put these trends in their starkest terms deliberately, not to scare you away but to emphasize the scope of change that lies ahead, the stakes for the next generation and the important of everyone's role be it simply awareness or more direct activism in dealing with these trends and others. But to conclude there is a comforting note, as of today the shape and the ground rules of the new era are a long way from being set in final form. We are only in a transition and we have an important advantage over any earlier era of history. We can see change and understand it as it happens. When Columbus landed in the America's 500 years ago, he did not know that he had discovered a new hemisphere and taken a giant leap toward linking the continents into a single world. In contrast, be it a coup attempt in the Soviet Union, a war in the Persian Gulf, the end of apartheid in South Africa or any other major event taking place around the world, we can now see it and react to it instantaneously. In other words, we have control over the direction and pace of change as never before. We have choices. I will close by saying that I envy those of you who are students in this audience, because many of those choices will be yours. I thank you. That's all right, I can do it. I've been told if anyone would like to ask a question? Yes, ma'am\r\n\r\n- Just one question because I understand their is endless things that shocked the system of the world by protecting the cooperation the Soviet Union. Also system. Switzerland, many smaller countries are preparing for nuclear war. And of course the United States will have done this for us. I wonder if you have more information about shelters protection of the population .\r\n\r\n- I thought sure I could speak on anything and you stumped me.\r\n\r\n- Would you repeat the question?\r\n\r\n- The question really was about information the question, or at as heard about shelter systems built in the Soviet Union in China, Switzerland and other countries, which the US doesn't have to protect against nuclear war for the use of nuclear weapons. I don't know, I must say several times I've been to the Soviet Union and I've been to China and I went to boarding school in Switzerland and I've never seen shelter systems. I assume that the kind of bomb shelters we had when we were back in the fifties and sixties, but I don't know, you stumped me. I've got to find out.\r\n\r\n- You have not visited those countries Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Do you wanna spend so much time overseas now after the fall of the Berlin wall their has been an euphoria in the US I wonder what happens American citizens\r\n\r\n- That's a very good question.\r\n\r\n- Repeat the question\r\n\r\n- He basically asked as someone who's lived overseas and I've spent 20 years as a foreign correspondent on every continent except Antarctica. How does the United States look to me that in the euphoria, after the collapse of the Berlin Wall, everyone was heralding capitalism but there's some questioning about it now and how do I look at it personally? I have to say that I left this country during the well, when hippies were in and I returned and yappies were in. And I grew up in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I never saw a homeless person in my life. And I live in Washington DC and part of Georgetown and they took down a house recently and there were 32 homeless people in it. I mean, I truly cannot believe what's happened. I think there is a great, I think the world's in for terrible shock both about democracy and about capitalism because there are so many countries which are just not gonna make it. We don't have this, what I was trying to tell you earlier, we simply don't have the resources. Peru's is gonna go down the tubes sparing some miracle. And the problems compound themselves in such a terrible way. I mean, whether it's debt and unemployment all the things that spiral and then they have cholera epidemics, which, you know, take such a devastating toll. I was in Zimbabwe, a country I covered when it was Rhodesia during the civil war there. And this was a country that survived, what was it? 13 years, I guess, 15 years of international isolation, economic sanctions, ostracization by the entire world. And what's the great threat of the 20th century gonna be? AIDs, 60% of the Army in Zimbabwe is HIV positive. The implications are just so staggering. It's gonna not be able to defend itself. A whole generation in the labor productive years is gonna be wiped out. Extraordinary number of orphans left behind. The infrastructure of the nation is gonna be challenged and it has to make some choices. Do you try to keep these people alive? Do you even get involved in education and condom distribution or do you just, you know, how do you pay for all of this? Countries can't afford that. In Zimbabwe condom is 39 cents, in a country where, you know, the income is the average income among Africans is probably 150, well, probably less than that. Well, anyway, it's very low, they can't afford it. I have grave fears about many corners of the world. And I think that there is some disillusionment with the greediness of capitalism that there's not a spirit of giving or sharing in it. And that there are many countries that after two or three generations, after all, we're talking 70 years in some cases of socialism or communism, that at least there was a social net to absorb them may not have been a good life but at least there was some kind of healthcare, some kind of education, some kind of social services. I'm not convinced that any part of the Soviet Union that fragments it becomes independent. It is going to be capable for the next generation of providing comparable service that may be some better services for those who can pay in hard currency for an elite few much smaller than the elite of a communist league was, but that the majority of people are just gonna get nothing. And I think that's gonna be one of the challenges of the transition period, proving that democracy really is the best way, trying to reassure countries and finding means to help them pay for it. I just don't know how we're gonna do it. 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The interesting question is that in Zambia, I think about 80% of the people maybe to 90 but nonetheless official figure I saw was 80% voted against the incumbent president, for who has been in and out of jail for the better part of two decades. The interesting question is if he doesn't do well will he allow the kind of democracy to vote him out of power? And it'll be the rule in Africa always was one man, one vote, one time. And it'll be interesting to see what happens.\r\n\r\n- Even India is abandoned talk of a third way. And if you can tell me an example and\r\n\r\n- They have tried it in India and they certainly live below the poverty line. They certainly live below the poverty line, they have a mixed economy, they have a large state sector and a large .\r\n\r\n- But they also need huge government subsidies for certain goods so that people can eat. I mean, yes it is.\r\n\r\n- But it is working.\r\n\r\n- It's working, I would argue, and it's the one exception. 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Marcos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1405.38,1407.293"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You look at some of the people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1408.58,1409.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we have selected along the way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1409.65,1412.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I think that we've made some pretty bad choices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1412.05,1415.193"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, Samosa, we supported for years in Nicaragua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1416.27,1421.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in fact have often","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1425.6,1427.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shunned, ignored or refused even to listen to revolutions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1431.75,1436.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who often, revolutionaries who often model themselves","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1436.76,1440.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on our own declaration of independence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1440.42,1442.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sad irony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1443.37,1444.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, I thank you all for to defying the 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room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1460.36,1462.363"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tomorrow, Ralston Deffenbaugh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1463.36,1465.387"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Will refugees have a place in the new world 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Benn,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1469.344,1470.177"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Prospects for Peace, Democracy and Social Justice.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=1470.177,1473.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040/transcript/27892/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"8:00 PM, Sunroom Memorial 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And also in the same case.\r\n\r\n- Well, that's the hopeful side in, between India and Pakistan. If they both have them, then maybe it'll be a deterrent. To be honest with you. I don't think they are safe in the hands of any country. Probably safer, as I said earlier, in the hands of East and West because we do have that deterrent mechanism. We do have a means of communicating. The problem is, the interesting thing is South Africa, for years, did not sign the non-proliferation treaty, even though everybody knew they had the capability. It only did after it agreed this year, a few months ago, only when it became clear that white minority rule was going to end. And the whites began to fear. What happens if blacks get control of the bomb? So they quickly signed the non-proliferation treaty. So any country that has it, I mean, it, and I can only see the need growing, I mean, a desire for it growing. One of the problems with the Gulf War, and this is a bit of a digression, but it's my favorite subject, so I'll digress as I please, is the fact that Gulf War didn't cost us enough. It didn't, it wasn't bloody enough. It was for the Iraqis, but not for the rest of us. One of the reasons Madrid isn't working is, is because frankly there wasn't enough of an incentive. There isn't yet enough of an incentive for everybody to compromise. It was over too, the Gulf War was over too quickly with a low enough death toll, limited bloodshed. I mean, 100-hour wars, and batter, a 42-day war, whichever way you want to look at it. And as a result, rather than teaching people, look, we don't want to be like Iraq. We don't want to have chemical weapons. We don't want to have ballistic missiles and so forth. Everyone in that region now feels even more vulnerable and wants therefore the capabilities of Iraq or Israel. And so the arms race has only going to heat up. The Gulf War, unfortunately, backfired on us. And I think history will look back on it as a real glitch, rather than a great triumph. That's not a popular thing to say, but yeah?\r\n\r\n- On the religious things, how you can become a greater way for the future. Could such be viable?\r\n\r\n- That's a good question. If I were a betting woman, and of course I'm not, I put my quarter on not having more religious states in the term, in a model like Iran on a theocracy where the clergy is, makes up the majority in parliament and majority in cabinet. I mean, it doesn't anymore, but in the early days it did. That the chiefs of state. I would bet, however, that religious forces in all countries with all religions will be more vocal, more visible, more influential, be it Buddhist monks in Tibet, liberation theologians in Latin America and Peru. I mean, Latin America, Philippines, Haiti. I've just returned from central Asian republics in the Soviet Union, places most people have never heard of, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and Kirghizia, Turkmania. And one of the most interesting phenomenon is the emergence of Islam as a very potent idiom of political expression. And this is not fundamentalism. These are not Shiites. These are Sunni's, very thoughtful. Not that Shiites aren't, but there's a difference in the activism of the two branches of Islam, because Shia believed that the clergy are empowered to act and to direct, to give God's direction to the human being. Therefore, the clergy people like Ayatollah Khomeini have much more influence on the everyday Shia Muslim, whereas in the Sunni religion, they believe that man's relationship with God is direct rather than through the clergy. And so their clergy are more spiritual advisors, or counselors, and therefore don't have the ability to mobilize them in the way Khomeini could. Anyway, Islam is becoming very potent. And the first night, my first night in the Soviet Union, this, on this trip, I was invited to a wedding, and I went along fully expecting, you know, a wedding, and discovered that, in fact, it was a circumcision for two little boys, aged three and five, and they call it a wedding because it marks the little boys marriage to Allah or God. And it is these kind of life cycle rituals that have allowed Islam to remain a very potent force in the lives of 50 million people in the Soviet Union. And I think it's going to be a very influential, I think in the same way the Russian Orthodox church probably gonna become more active in the Soviet Union. I think throughout the world, particularly when we're going through a transition, particularly when there's, it's a time of an instability or uncertainty, people turn to their faith. A Peruvian psychiatrist and historian, a marvelous character named Max Hernandez, compared it to a tornado. He said, \"What happens when people, when a tornado comes through town?\" You being from Iowa, you probably all know. He said, \"People go to their basement, and they cling to the pillars.\" Well, a political transition is the same way. It's a political tornado, and people go to the basement, and they cling to the pillars, the things that have, things that have sustained them or their families or their traditions throughout history. And one of those, the most potent of those, arguably is religion. Yes, sir? I didn't hear the last part of it. A prerequisite for success. Well, a democracy, it's not my definition of democracy. Democracy is the freedom, involves freedom to do what you want. And people are free to choose whether they want to vote or not vote. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans don't think of it enough as either a privilege, to carry it out. Is democracy a prerequisite for success? I'd put it a different way because I think there's a difference between success and progress, even though they're often synonyms, considered synonyms. I think certain freedoms are requisite to provide men with the kind of incentives that he will willingly, eagerly engage in progress. Yeah? You want to argue with me on that one? I don't think of that as a third way. I mean, it's a third world version of authoritarianism.\r\n\r\n- South Korea, Malaysia.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And I think they're terrific models for the third world. I think that arguably in a lot of third world countries, Taiwan, the newly industrialized countries, the Knicks, as they call them, Taiwan, Singapore, Yugoslavia at one point, Israel will be more models that are more applicable for third world countries than the United States. I don't, I'm not convinced that we are a model for anyone because circumstances are just so different in terms of we started from scratch. We have vast resources. We have, you know, we can be in principle self-sufficient. Oh, I think so. I think increasingly that there are a lot of third world regions that think of, that are thinking both in terms of the new region state. For example, in South Africa, they're already talking about the post-apartheid Southern Africa Union. This is grouping countries that have been engaged or been considered rivals since 19, well, 1948, since the Afrikaners assumed power. But I think increasingly they think the model is a country that works hard, offers incentives to foreigners to invest and make their clothing and so forth. The danger is that that if it doesn't work, they will also turn to the kind of authoritarianism that many of those countries have too. Yeah? Well, here, my personal bias and my position as an analyst are the same. I strongly believe that we need to be extremely careful about intervening in any conflict anywhere, that there will be an enormous temptation to get involved, but we will do so at an ever increasing price, politically, diplomatically. One of the interesting lessons of the Gulf War that not many people have thought about is the fact, because we've all been saying the Soviet Union is no longer a superpower, we're the only superpower left, well, the interesting thing about the Gulf War was that it showed that we can't fight a war by ourselves. We can't even afford it. We had to have several other countries pay for it. And I think, yes, it was of a scale that we needed help. But I think that there are an awful lot of circumstances that we're not going to be able to afford to intervene. And so that on two levels, both politically and economically, we need to be very careful about how we go in. I also think that the United States has to think very seriously as the rest of the world begins to demilitarize by demilitarizing ourselves, and the cost we may pay as a nation to try to sustain our military industrial complex, while everybody else is converting their military industries to more viable or more productive economic industries, it's going to be a real challenge. We assume that it's so obvious. Of course, that's what East Germany should do. And that's what the Soviet Union should do. But I think we've got to think about it ourselves too. I don't think any nation wants us to be the policemen of the world. And I think George Bush said this not to, in the last couple of months, I think a couple of times, that he doesn't particularly want to be the policemen of the world, but when it comes to getting people like Noriega or going after terrorists in Beirut or whatever, there's going to be an enormous temptation. Because now we think we can do it, and there's going to be nobody restraining us. Yeah?\r\n\r\n- You closed your address on such an optimistic note, we can see changes as it happens. We can manage, and we can control the direction. Whatever you said.\r\n\r\n- We have choices, and we can see those choices.\r\n\r\n- I'm eager to hear your most optimistic, your most hopeful scenario.\r\n\r\n- Oh, for what? I mean. Listen, this is only the beginning of the kind of issues I've written about in this book. Terms of.\r\n\r\n- Who are we, and what can we do?\r\n\r\n- Alright, we as the American population probably have access, more access to more information than any group of people anywhere in the world. And perhaps the most valuable commodity in the world is not gold or oil or even water, but information. And we should be using that information, be it in an educational environment or as individual citizens to try to understand what the public agenda should be. There's a lot of complaining about, you know, there are no good politicians out there and so forth. Well, the fact is there isn't a very good agenda out there. People aren't defining the issues. We know there are economic ills. We know that there are environmental issues, and so forth. I'd be hopeful if someone could just get up and kind of say, \"Okay, this should be our policy. This is a new world order agenda.\" We get a lot of talk. But if you remember the new world order emerged out of a crisis. US foreign policy, and I'm taking a bit longer to answer your question, but it's deliberate. US foreign policy in the era since we became a super power after World War II has been characterized by one common denominator, is always been reactive. We are not a nation that thinks proactively, that looks long-term and says, \"Okay, this is what we hope to accomplish. This is what needs to be addressed.\" We've never shown either the foresight or the leadership in defining the world agenda. Everything we've gotten involved in, be it Vietnam. I mean, every, even China, we were reacting to other events. And I think that it is going to take a fundamental, kind of rethinking of our heads, reshaping of priorities. We've got to get out there and define it. We're the same way about politicians. We react to politicians, but we don't come up with agendas ourselves. I would think that we are in a better position to understand the outside world than we ever have been, that if in the best of all possible worlds, as Voltaire said, we came up with an agenda. It would be very easy then to decide what to do with our monies. At the moment, we're playing, we're putting band-aids all over the world, you know? In terms of aid, who we're giving money to. Our money is still skewed. So that goes to first to aid recipients, are Israel and Egypt. I'm not saying either one should not get money, but I just think there are a lot of places that we need to start thinking about putting money to, or maybe giving it for other reasons. We don't even have a kind of a list of criteria by which we give aid. We give aid in terms of what's politically expedient at the moment, not in terms of what our objectives are long-term. I mean, I think, you know, conferences like this, where people are exposed to different ideas, get people talking, going. I mean, there are a lot of ways that individuals can get involved and think about things in terms of hopeful scenarios. I'd like to believe that most of the democracies, and I will be honest with you. Not all of them will survive. There's no hope that all of them, that most of them could struggle through in some way, continue to offer the right to vote and the right to free choice of job and education, right to the consent and so forth. But I keep thinking of places like Peru where a young journalist on the eve of the third presidential vote when I was in Lima, said to me, \"Oh, yeah, we have democracy. The problem is we have nothing to back it up. We just elect a new king every five years.\" And I think that is not an unfair statement about many of the democracies we've seen so far. I think even places like Czechoslovakia. I think Havel is not a character who's going to last a long time. Despite the fact he may be a wonderful guy. Maybe a good politician. Maybe thoughtful and have a good agenda, but I just don't see the appetite for him. I keep getting back to the pessimistic side. Again, I think there are choices. I don't think we haven't indefinitely though to make those choices. I think we need to make some choices about what we do here. I mean, as I said, it's scandalous to me that there's so many homeless and the people don't seem to care anymore.\r\n\r\n- I was gonna say.\r\n\r\n- What? I don't know. You know what? People, excuse me. The human being tends to act based on an incentive, has a stake in it. Maybe it's whether it's a war or a real depression or something that makes us kind of appreciate. There's been a cycle in American history of wars, recessions or depression serious enough to galvanize people back into activity. We haven't been through that. The only war we've had, the two wars we've had, Vietnam, the Gulf War, they've been far away. They haven't been on our, you know, you could get out of it. It didn't affect all Americans evenly. It wasn't a national crisis in the same way World War II or even the Korean War was. I'm not sure what it's going to take to end the apathy. I wish I knew. Yeah? You want me to shut up? I think it would make a huge difference. I think that we sold our country down the tubes over the last 10 years. I think history will look back particularly on the Reagan presidency as one of the most disastrous of the century. And I think it's going to be a very long time. Clearly not this century. The nine years remaining or the eight and a half whatever that we're going to get out of it. Not yet. It's possible. One of the interesting things, when I talked about democracy being not only right to freedom and vote and decent and so forth, but also being the right to prosperity. The resentment is in part a product of the cultural phenomenon. I remember being again in Peru, and I was watching TV. I always turned on the TV to see what local TV programs have, but I did it because in Iran once I saw the Pink Panther, and I thought if the Pink Panther can survive in the Islamic Republic, then anything's possible, but in Lima, in the Peruvian television, they had Mr. Belvedere in Spanish, and it struck me, and I talked to various Peruvians about it later. This is the kind of program they get. And they think the average middle-class American has a British butler, that we have raised expectations and extraordinarily, and that there is likely to be not so much resentment at us for promoting democracy, which is understandable, but resentment at raising their expectations, which can't be met. There aren't enough resources on this earth for all of us to live as you and I live in this country. Even if the people had the money to buy it. You're the last one. I can't hear you. Well, there's. Oh, when you said compare democracies in Cuba and Honduras, I was gonna say I don't think Cuba is much of a democracy, then I don't think Honduras is either. I mean, you need a right wing. We have made a classic mistake, again, in our period as a superpower by choosing a lot of our friends based on who would be literally friendly to us, whatever their ideology. President Mobutu of Zaire is one of the most corrupt leaders arguably of this century. It has been scandal in the way he's ruled his country. I mean, Ferdinand Marcos. You look at some of the people we have selected along the way, and I think that we've made some pretty bad choices. Again, Samosa, we supported for years in Nicaragua. And in fact have often shunned, ignored or refused even to listen to revolutions who often, revolutionaries who often model themselves on our own declaration of independence. Sad irony. Anyway, I thank you all for to defying the weather and coming out, it was very nice of you, I enjoyed it.\r\n\r\n- There's a reception at 111 Lind Street in the social room. Tomorrow, Ralston Deffenbaugh, \"Will refugees have a place in the new world order?\" 12:00 noon, and Tony Benn, \"Prospects for Peace, Democracy and Social Justice.\" 8:00 PM, Sunroom Memorial Union. Thank you for attending.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/43227/file/116040#t=0.0,1489.44"}]}]}]}