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So today is Saturday March 5th 2011. We're at the home of David and Julie Kaufman Ames Iowa to Record An Oral History of the department of chemistry with Dave. Dave maybe you could start just by doing this a. Saying a little bit about yourself. Born I am. I was born in. Kent. No one way. And when I was in the second grade I moved to Charleston Illinois and that's where I grew up. Charleston Illinois is the home of Eastern Illinois University which was a teacher's college at the time. My dad. Taught chemistry and supervised. Students who are going training became chemistry teachers and. I went to graduated in Charleston. I went to the University of Illinois and got my B.S. degree and then I got my Katie. And. Madison University of Wisconsin. And. B.S. in 1968 and 1964 it was your place to. See Curtis. His name is theoretical. Chemist. At the theoretical chemistry Institute in. Wisconsin. Then I. Taught. At the University of Adelaide in South Australia and was there for almost two years. And then came running. I pushed docked at university in Minnesota for. Oh. Just under eight or nine months something like that. And then. Came here and I've been here ever since except for. I went back to Adelaide for a year. And then. When. I was in. Rotated NSF per year but other than that I've been here in no time. And. What was the what was the procedure by which you were hired at Iowa State. I of course was applying different places and. I. Think. Bob Hansen was my main. Contact and I think he had contacted. Curtis or somebody I really. Wasn't. Privy to exactly how that happened. Better got an invitation to come down coming down when I was at Minnesota. And. Got an offer. Except it was not handsome the chair. He wasn't the chair. It was a physical chemistry position and he was. Sort of the heavyweight in physical chemistry. Charlie gets was chairman when I came and. He was chairman for. A WHILE AND THEN BOB HANSEN became. Chairman. You have those dates I'm sure. I'm not exactly sure the dates but trying to get a chairman for a little while but not long when I was here. With Charlie just like. He was. I mean really knowing very well but. Back in those days a department chair was ahead and he'd been chair for a long time. He. I think. He was a. Strong personality and I'm sure there are stories but. None of them really. My personal stories because. I didn't really know him very well. He wasn't. The only thing I knew about him he he. My office was. Down. Either in this spot or close my first office or close to the spot where McCain is now. And Charlie gets was on. The Andrew corridor the one next to the old building. And. They did the United Way drive that year when he first retired he was chair of the. Bar little block of. Offices. And they had it all divided up and he might have he might have in fact been chair of the whole thing. But he organized in like a military campaign. And I remember I went around to. I got this thing and an assistant professor I of course agreed to do it. So I started. And it turned out his office was just three or four doors down from mine. So he was the first visit I made. And he gave me a little lecture about how it wasn't really time to start the campaign and when we do these things you you're organized and you're supposed to supposed to start when when the campaign starts. And I was early and so forth. So it was a really harsh lecture but it led me to believe that he was very precise and taught military discipline about him. As I say I really didn't know him very well. And who followed in his chair. HANSEN As I remember and I don't know whether Bob Hansen was a hand. Judy and I were just talking about that this morning whether he was hit or chair but name anyone in very long because he was. Replaced spending as head of the Ames lab. I don't know exactly the date but it wasn't he wasn't chair very long. And then I think it was Corbett. Yeah. And I think I called him a Carly. I can't remember. So you were hired as an assistant. There was an assistant professor not an instructor right. I was an assistant editor. And so. What was it like to get tenure. Well it was actually. A pretty painless for me in the following sense that. I had. Got this. Invitation to return to Adelaide. South Australia. To work with H.S. Green. He was a guy postdoc with green invited me to come back and spend a year there doing research. The. Level of. The more elevated title. Then when I'd been a. But basically the same idea just do research. But by the time I went back I. Met. Judy Judy and I had a couple of kids so they went back with us and we spent a year there. But anyway that was a year when I got. I got tenure and so it was kind of out of sight out of mind. You know it's pretty famous for me being afraid maybe that you wouldn't come back unless you got tenure. I don't know about that but. It. Was about the time. It might have been. Might have been a year early I'm not sure. But. As I say I wasn't here. So it was pretty painless for me. It was. Then. When I got tenure. So. It. Didn't have to put together a big package no. Matter how many papers published. The procedures have gotten more and more elaborate. Yeah. As. I recall. I think I had I gave. It was about that time and when references used to be you know it was just there wasn't any of the procedures now. Along the line. I had to furnish references it might have been then for the next promotion. No actually I'd been for that one I don't know. But it was a lot more informal. And there wasn't a departmental. Document for how to proceed and so forth it was pretty much you know the full professors. Getting together and deciding and and so as I say you know I've I've seen a lot of promotions and a lot of tenure reviews and so forth so I know. What it's like now but it was nothing. Nothing like that. When I went through. So along the way did professors give you advice or anything like. That. Oh yeah. That was. After Rittenberg I remember I probably talked to other people as well. I talked to Rittenberg and I remember Rittenberg I said we're going to be in hearing room. He said. You can either. Publish a lot of papers. Or you can publish. One or two really you know. Earthshaking. Papers. And. If you choose to do that that's a little more risky because. It's a little harder to say whether it's going to be earthshaking or not. So I do remember that conversation. So. Obviously no paper counted in the consideration of the professors but it was more informal. More informal thing. Never really had much. Really much concern. Along those lines because it. Really was. It was more what the professors did not have to prepare a lot of documentation and all that. So. No one else was hired at the same time. MARTIN And Ben's Calder. Dennis's course gone many years now. But. You. And I were all hired the same day. So I've known. Tom. Straight through. We've. Been. Here. Who else was in about the same. Age. Yeah well the people that were here. Angelique Angeles In essence we were. Here and the young. People I think they maybe were the most recent hires we have access now I have friends in and Gerstein were here. There were some people. Who didn't get tenure. Now Dennis Calder was one of. Which was very painful for. Her I think for Tom and certainly for me because you know we were all meeting friends and came at the same time. Then. I came Jerry Small was hired and John Flaherty. Were hired and. As I say there were a couple other people who. You wouldn't know who. Didn't get tenure. So those were the early. People. Just for the record. What were the needs of. Other people. Jerry Pearson was one of those folks tend to fall after Columbine. It was one and. Jerry I think Jerry Pearson. And there was a. Guy. Come. Cancel. Went on to. He went to Bowling Green I think in. Ohio. And he's done really quite well. There was another Schiano Charles skin skinny skinny who. Was in one guy an organic. One. There. So in those days it sounded like a lot of people were denied tenure. So when you were an assistant professor. Was there like some statistic going around like you know a third of the. Number. No I. I am certainly not one that we bandied around. There might have been people who knew what their. Records are. I didn't. And there wasn't as I remember not something that was discussed. I mean people. You know were aware that. It wasn't required to get. Tenure and that you had. Obligation. And so forth. And. It was. I don't really remember. Heavy deep discussions but it certainly certainly was on everyone. If you were assistant professors naturally on your mind. You alluded earlier to. Your. Social interactions. I. Come. Here several of us. Clinical chemists in particular. MARTIN party scholar and small and myself. And so we were roughly the same age and we did quite a few things together. One thing we used to go down at noontime and play ping pong and. In the basement of the physics building and you know the tunnels down underneath the the old physics building. No there's tunnels down there and they had Ping-Pong people down in the down pretty wide. So. We used to go down. And. That's how we. Spend our new dimes and. Occasionally an evening because of course in the old days everybody went back. Every evening you know to work. And. And. Sometimes we'd take a break and. Go down. People. And. Then. I'm sure to the same down an. Assistant Professor you. Really. Worked very hard you know in those days you were expected to work. 40. Forty four hours I guess you were expected to work Saturday mornings. So. We did. I mean. People worked a lot more than that but the normal work day with. Five days a week plus Saturday morning. As I remember. We had seminars every. Thirty eight o'clock every Thursday night and that's something maybe maybe they had them when you were. First time. But then everybody. Those were. For the whole department. Supposed to be in general enter seminars. And. Everybody went. Yeah. And so. And then oftentimes it would be. An event. In the evening after the seminar for. The speaker. And. Folks would go to. Depends on who the speaker was and so forth. Then we'd go to those and then just like now there was. Before. The. Seminar. Dinners and so forth. Sometimes back in those days. Some more and more hosted in people's homes. I mean people went out. But. But. It was not uncommon to have. Dinner at home. For. Four speakers. I don't think that's going happy medium. Which. I think will happen more often than. In back. There weren't a lot of restaurants in Ames for one thing. Chefs in and. In. What was going down Parliament's downtown. Were. The ones I remember but they just you know. Now there's lots and lots of choices. Not too many of them. So how else did the. Faculty. Interact. I mentioned before we got started to you. There was a pretty active. Chemistry wives and they'd organize picnics. And. Different kinds of events. I think there was probably more. Social. Interaction in those days. Part of it might be the times and part of it might be that they've just were a lot of. Wives. Back in those days the faculty was male and there were a lot of wives about the same age and so they were good friends. Did you. Have. Dinner at each other's houses. Yeah I think all I think. Entertaining in their homes was a lot more common. Just nice might feel and part of it was people. Young people. Entertaining each other in their homes. Since. We. We have a bridge club now. That. It's not all chemistry anymore but back in the early days it was all chemistry and I got started and I think the first time was. When Judy and I went to Tom and Betty Barton's. Apartment when they lived on Welch and. We had a play bridge that night. And I think how did that evolve. This bridge group that eventually involved the colors and the classes and aspens and and. Several people. And their art wasn't the only bridge group I think there were maybe three at one time department. So. I think there was more. Social interaction probably in part because there were. Fewer things and aims to do and. And. So the. Interaction social interactions within the department were a lot stronger and partly that and partly as I say there were several people that were sort of the same age. So how long is your bridge clumping going. I don't know when that if we did it from that first time. That must have been in 67 or 68. And you know people drifted in and out but. At least that's my recollection recollection. You know I have to ask Martin. If he remembers it that way. But. So I think it's been. That's been a few years ago right. Forty years forty some years. Yeah yeah. Yeah. OK. Well. So. As you're. How long did you spend in the chemistry you. When were you when we. Hired 67. I that first day that. We showed up was in August at 67 I think. And I. As I said I came down from Minnesota where I. I went to Minnesota in November from Adelaide to Minnesota. And then basically spent. Two. Months in Minnesota you know interviewing various places and then. Came. So I got up there about nine months or eight eight or nine months and came down in. August. When did you retire. It occurred when I was 65 and nineteen and two thousand and. Four. At. Work. And. Went on phased retirement. Which. I taught in the. Spring semester. And. Judy was working in. The morning. That. She lobbied. For legal women voters and groups like that. And that works in the spring. So I went on phased retirement where I taught in the spring and then. The rest of the year was free for for us. And so when did the phase phased retirement finish. His retirement finish. It'll be two years in May. And. Yeah I taught I taught that in. 2000. The reason I went in phased retirement was I you know I always plan to be a teacher but I'd. Been. Involved in administration for lots of years. And so I thought it'd be fun to. Go out. The. Teaching again. So. I taught. A staggering three course and. In statistical mechanics they're all graduate courses. For that. And during my five years of phased retirement. Retirement by the way is. Terrific I thought because. You know. It. Gives you a chance to have a lot of. Free time but you still are involved and have your hand in. So I like that in particular teaching in this time of year was good because there's not a lot you can. Do in the early spring you know. And so there was a good time to teach. And be involved with the students and occupy time. It's kind of a downtime part of the year anyway. So I enjoyed it but but here's his element. So that's what I did. I think the limits are shorter now and I think. I think it's I think they've shortened how long you can you can do it now. There was five years and I did it. So you were chair of the Department for. Eight. Years Yeah right. Yeah yeah I hired you. I hired you and I hired your husband do actually. Jim with a postdoc. With me as you. Know. And he was from Adelaide originally from Melbourne. But. Postdoc at Adelaide for Jeff Green who is the guy. That you got to lead with green. Was a guy postdoc board. Yeah. I was I and so many nine or. I think in seventy nine eighty year I was in. A rotating NSF going on here. They bring in people from universities per year in the industry grants and so forth. And I did that and then. Back in the department. From that year there's rotator for. Something like a year and maybe the last. And I got. Chosen. To be chair. And. I. Do it for one term but then the dean asked me to do a second term so I ended up getting it for eight years. So it was 81 to 89. Who is. Dean. Ha. Ha. WALLACE. Russell. But he he was. I was at Russell was Ross. I think it's what was Russell. Motion to name for their book last name. I got it right. And then Kelly. Became dean some time in their. Lives. Yeah. And Kelly was no doubt Dean. You were hired what about eighty four eighty three really three. Yeah. And I don't know. Maybe russell was. Dean when you were hired do you remember. Who's Dean. Well then Then Kelly Gail right. Yeah right. Then Kelly came in about that time. So what do you remember from your time as chair. Well I. Remember hiring people and. Putting together. Is always a challenge to put together packages as you as you know all about that. I. Heard. Of the people I hired who are still here. I think it's you and. Jake. And Keith Woo. Believe that's all that are left now. But. A lot of other. People. Did you hire Sam. Right. I. Don't believe so. I mean he he certainly was very new at the time but. I. Kind of think. I don't think I did. I heard Mark Porter. And I hired. Jerry. Scott. And. So I hired some analytical chemist. But you. Know as far as. I. Think it's split business of. Like. You and to a lesser extent Jerry small and sort of. One foot in analytical chemistry and one foot in physical chemistry and then. There's more of that now. I think then there was at the time. The divisions were. Much much sharper. All the things that we did was to. That I tried to work on was to. To blur those division lines and the fact that we I think we considered some proposals where those would be. Blurred even more than they are. Or certainly that they were at the time. So but. Those divisional lines were pretty strong. Getting blurred and blurred. I mean nowadays really the biggest distinction in the department is between organic unique from one side physical analytical and even there that was like brocade for example. And for years for Kate tried to do organic chemists were where they were a strong group with Chapman and Russell in particular in the really early days they were there. And Gelman was still around. And. So. It. Was a hard group to. Break into and vacate for. A long time. I wanted to take because his interests were. Strongly organic and oriented. You know and I think for some years now he has been taking organic students and he thinks. I think so yeah. So. Naturally those things change him. Yeah. Well. Like the seeds you played it. Took a while to grow. Yeah well know how or whether it's just the times I think. Sort. Everywhere those divisions have kind of disappeared. Chemistry. Is change in chemistry I think. And then of course are new. New areas. And in. Chemistry you know that sort of chemical physics for example. You know. Areas that. Were Really. Where. It. Hadn't really split off as a separate sort of area. But as you fragment into these little. Little. Or areas and you get a lot of those that tends to. People can be in two or three different sort of things like that. Like. Surface science you know as an example and connect as this chemist mathematicians all sorts of people attended. Cross division a line out. Of. The way we were thinking. OK. Yeah I just want to check that it's still recording there. Seems to me that was the basic idea you know that. Those. Divisions are. The. Four major divisions just a little less meaningful and. Cross-fertilization across areas is. The wave of the future. Well as I say I think chemistry in general is. Just. Interaction between chemistry and physics for example. Or chemistry and biochemistry. When I was. First came biochemistry and just. Split off in chemistry not too long and had materials science I wasn't. So. That happened when I got here but. I imagine there are people around. Who remember when they were in. Class maybe maybe brocade. I don't. Know. Probably for sure. Yeah I'm sure you're going to go up and jump. So what were you what things do you remember. Being most proud of. I was always proud of the. Well you know I hired. And. That was. Always the most important the most important thing you could. Do is hire good people and hang onto the good people you have. And then you probably face this but it was always a hot property and. In. A. Never was pushy about it but you always realize that he was a. Good good scientist and. He was going to be a struggle to keep him. I was proud of the fact I did. And I guess all subsequent chapters of the department I have as well so but. And then. While hiring Mark Porter for example was there that was at the time. I put together that package is. If my memory serves me as around the half million dollars or something and equipment which in those times was a substantial thing. He always felt that if you were able to do that. Thing is. One thing I remember is trying to get communication between the different divisions started so. You know. You didn't have separate levels. Which is kind of unusual I guess when I think about it because we did have departmental seminars which did bring everyone together and those have disappeared but it didn't seem that you know the different. Divisions or more isolated and kept to themselves more until I tried. No we had parties and things like that where. Different. Events where you get. People together and try to break down some of those kinds of. Divisions. The big one big thing was. Was renovating. Gilman. Yeah right. And. They. Were not. First. As I remember it when I first became chair I went over and started talking about new building to John Pace who was the. Building guy at that. Time. For the university said you might well. Forget about that. That's not going to happen but. You'll be lucky to get the buildings. Renovated so. And there was a lot of work. Talking to legislators and so forth and finally getting the appropriation to. For money for. Innovation and we bring legislators through and show them. You know the. Horrible Schaper. Gilman Hall was in and. Eventually we did get the four phases. And I think the fourth phase is. Still not done is that I'm. Not sure. And. Of course now we have the new building. So by the way are you have any. No I. Don't stand in these done spending and have every thought and. I haven't. I. Looked like a nice facility that I really people who are in it really enjoy it do they. Yeah. Yeah. Well. We hired. The first women. Faculty here. That's. Not the first but. First one in the modern time. And. One of the things that we. Did that I instituted. Was the reviews the faculty there were there weren't any. Reviews like we do now. Oh well. And we had reviews. What I get for is a setting. It was just the. The. Chair of the department. Said everybody salary. And. I thought that. That was viewed as being kind of capricious. I'm sure it's always done in good faith you know. But you know when just that one person. Making that decision. So I set up. A committee to review all the files. And make recommendations to. The chair. And. Back in. Those days. It was still the chair that set the salary is purely advisory and. People didn't. Meet together. And. Everyone just turned in their individual recommendations their individual thoughts. Suppose much less. That's another thing. And he became more and more formalized is that as time goes on. And now I think that was under you when you started reviewing. For professors as well. And. Yeah. And then there wasn't any of that force that. We. We. Were. We had read the reviews of. The annual reviews of. This assistant professors and associate professors. And I believe I don't believe I believe that was under way. But. I'm sure that was. Under way before I became chair. And then on top of that we had this salary per year. For the purposes of setting salary. That was a good thing. Here was I think it was. As I say you know in. It. To remove that. Sort of arbitrariness about it. I never again I think that. People always did that in. The best they couldn't in good faith. It's not that it's just that it's. More information and the better it is. Any regrets from your time true. Well. I'll. Read. It. Oh two years was really pretty hard to. Keep. My research up as much as I would like. Yeah I always. And then after I left the chair I was nine. Were. Pretty hard to revive research but a much larger group of. Students and a postdoc before I became. Chair and afterwords. And. So. I don't know what. To what extent. I mean I. Had an active program the whole time but it wasn't. It was different later on because I didn't have I was more on my. Working on my own. And fewer students. The number of physical chemistry students also went down seemed like there were there were a lot more on I the number of graduate students I think was we were. When I was here I think we were up around a couple of hundred. I don't know what the numbers are now but. I think. My sense is that. The numbers have gone down. 60 days. And the number of physical chemists for a while has really gone down. It. Used to be in the latter days the analytical chemistry was the one where all the students wanted to get in and we were. Trying. To. Curtail the number of. I think analytical was probably getting. Away. There was an imbalance there. And everybody recognized there weren't too many students for the analytical chemistry and not enough for everybody else. And so we had some. As I recall. We did some rules and maybe that's still in effect some rules that were different for analytical applicants and for those are still. Just because. There was just a lot more of them. Was part of the job. Did you enjoy the most. I actually enjoyed. Hiring. And. I enjoyed. Trying to. Get good people put together competitive offers. And. I liked that. So if you look over the whole of your. Time. In the department did you enjoy the administrative part. The most or the faculty part. Teaching. Oh like that. I always enjoy research when you do administration. That's more occupies more your time and I. Wish. I was chair chemistry than. I. Was. Interim. Director Ripert right after that went the Ames lab until I went on phased retirement. So. From 1980 on. Till I retired in 65. In 2004 at 65. I was. In one way. Or another involved in. Administration so that. Limits. The time for research to some extent. But even more teaching. But I always liked administration but remove all aspects of the job. It's fun to teach too. And. I said in my phase retirement. I. Had an opportunity to teach again and I enjoyed that. Did you do you think you enjoyed the. Early part of your career or the middle part of the career of your career masters. Hard to say. But they're all really I enjoy the more. I guess. Interesting question. For reasons I am a part of the career it was funded. You know around several people same age sort of always choose me. In the same boat starting out and. Everybody's working hard and. There is a lot of. Camaraderie. So I enjoyed those years and then. Of the department you have. You. It's your job to see things. Go well that you do what you can to advance the department by hiring well and by keeping good people in by. Changing administrative structures and so forth to. Advance the department. Then that's that's challenging and worthwhile. So and then. Later administrative experience as you work. In the. In the game plan. One thing though I know that I think about it. I did start while I was chair with science bound. We. That was. In 2010 night. 88 or 87 radio I'd gone to a meeting at the chemistry chairs and basically the big 12 I think would probably be eight back then but you probably know about the meeting. Everyone at the. University of St.. Lewis and the University of Missouri in St. Louis. By the way we're not a big 12 but that's another man. They had a speaker there who is a pro both in the university whose name was. Barton. And. Shouldn't rule out my comments. Who. Had just come from New York and had a bridge program what they called Bridge Program which is to. Get minority students to go into universities. And she was starting one in St. Louis. So when I came back to and she talked about this program. Moderate Ross Barnett I knew. Eventually roll off the tongue. And so. I came back and thought well you know. Ames is not exactly Saint Lois but maybe we could do something with the boys. So I talked to Dick and I who is associate. Dean at the time. Of. College and he gave me a little money to get this. Program started with Maryland junior high. And. In. Des Moines. And. There was sort of a pilot. Program. And. I. Got. Bursting to actually run and do the. Work working with the teachers and so forth. And so we ran that pilot program at Merrill. And. Got some help from people and. From. Barnett in. The morning and her and take Lewis and her people to give us some advice and we started this thing. She came by the way and eventually went on to become. Dean at the University of Houston. So she would say. Lewis very long. But Eric then we wrote an NSF grant that was successful and. That funded. The. Program. And then when I left the chairmanship. In 89 I guess it was. I was afraid that that program my. Folder. Because the so was originally in chemistry but. I then. Micro asked me to be the associate director of paper. So I went over Deibert and I moved that program at the same time. Crowe who. Never saw a program he didn't like. It you know what. Great to have it. Move over diaper. So it's been an iPod. Ever since. Still going strong this presentation. Earlier this week Yeah and they've expanded it. Oh you know we gradually we went with one. Merrill Middle School and then we did the middle schools and then. Of course after a couple of years we had people ready for high school. And so finally regarding all the middle schools and high schools and. I think they have quite a Dennison. Place with three locations. I think it's deploying Marshall Town. I think that's right. And. Then it was. When I was in April that. We changed the name to science bound. That was great. Do you remember. Yeah the 80s I did. She. She had when I was a. Acting director in April. I had to have her one of her assignments was there was science bound so she named it. But then we've had several people. What was it on. Because. It really hadn't been the disorder. The program was something that she thought it should have a name as our memories. So. Yes. I've. Been very pleased to have you know that's hung in there for over all these years. Yes. Just think whether you know I don't know whether the current budget times. I don't know how it's faring but. I guess it's still going to. Look like they were still in print thing about that is that. You know you guarantee that. Program and as soon as you don't. Deliver on something. Excuse me promise. That's sort of the end of it. So. It's been it was and I think it has been. Since it's been important to keep the thing going so that people have confidence that if they. Invest their time and. Do their studies and so forth there'll be something for them. To. Go to. An. OK. Oh. People. Over the years what can you tell me about the. Dynamics of the department. What. What issues were most controversial for instance. Well. One of the things I did before I became chairman was. Put together. The departmental. Rules for. Procedures for. Tenure review. The tenure promotion and tenure document. I think what they call it something like that identity document. And I worked with Neil. Harlow. I think the Dean. Which I don't want to get and give away at are kind of a dicey promotion. Tenure decisions. And the. Upshot of that. Was that the. Department was to put together promotion and tenure document which as I said back in the old days was. All. Very informal. It worked fine as long as it worked. But you know as soon as there a real problem you don't have anything to fall back on as to how things should be done. And so we put together. The first P.A. document which meant must have been late 70s or something like that. And. As I said I work with. Neil Harlow to write that. And the reason Neil Hurrell is because he's he's. An expert on. Not only on economics but on. Orders and. Rules. Roberts Robert's Rules of Order seizures or that kind of thing. Or at least the dean perceived to be and I found him. Only helpful in putting together a document of how you should proceed. You know. This business of for example this business of. Reporting with two envelopes and one envelope inside another and all that kind of stuff. And. I'm sure all that is. Well known how you do that. But I didn't have any idea about how you set up procedures for review. And he was very helpful when the way we we put together that document. And it's undergone several revisions since. And. Again it's much less. An original document was much less a. Structured. Structure. Is the document now. But that was the first one. And I think the department's been operating. Under that document and now there's a document for. Not just for promotion and tenure but. So. Much more aspects of the department of life and none of that existed. Early on it was much more. Was that controversial in the department. That. Had to get to get the document that. Controversial is not what I would remember. I think. More. Because I don't think there was anyone. Who was really obstructionist or anything we had to do it. So there wasn't an issue with that. As I recall there were a lot of. Revisions and discussions and so I think it was done with a lot of thought and care and. Intensity. But I don't think that. Anyone. Is. Going to get into it kicking and screaming. But it did take a long time. To get that. Done. Had an assistant I think I was maybe I'd been promoted to them. But anyway I wasn't a full professor running a thing. So. Obviously it was an assignment that they thought could be left to someone other than. I don't think I didn't promote it. Maybe. When did I get promoted. I was a full professor but then I can't remember. They are still young. OK. Now. Think. About it. Almost. I mean many of these questions you've answered already so. I don't mean to. Plow the same ground. OK. Oh how was your research funded. What are you. Getting at. What. My research was funded by Ames lab. Most of the time and. On. The air you really didn't do anything sort of. And. The. Respect was in charge of my program. Basically told you. As I remember you didn't even keep track of your own budget. You just sort of told him how many students he had and he would. For example he provided the money to bring in. I talked to him about. The opportunity about having GM come. And talk to him and he provided the money for. That. You know it was much more. Of. A system where he had somebody who was really in charge and people who just really weren't responsible for your own things and in the same way. Now that. Had. Through the years I've of course I've had. Funding from other sources NSF and so forth but. Primarily Ames lab. Any other stories that you want to tell or anything you want to know. I can't think of anything more. Of course as you talk more my stuff is coming back to you. And. I'm sure you talk to. Other people. You. See the same year from a different perspective. That's. All I can think of. If I. Think of something I think you might. Be of interest I'll contact you. And. I guess at the top of my head I can't think of anything more. Thank you. Oh you're quite welcome. There you go. Well. I did ask me to. Tell about. One thing that happened one time we'd been at a party. And I remembered that young. Chemist were there. And. I went back to work. Afterwards. After the party. And. I was coming down the stair. There's a little stairs that go from the first floor down to the basement over where instrument services. Is. And my office and Ed Young's office were down in the area. This now instrument services. And. I. They were removing my desk from my office. Down the hall and I sat on the stairs there and watched them for a while. And then when they had booted out I I. This was expensive. And and. I. Then. Showed myself as a member. They moved it all back again. Different kinds of pranks like that. Took place. The guys used to make a. Pipe. Or they put. And everyone was involved in that but pipe bombs with CO2. They. Make a big loud bang. I think that's how they did that. You can ask Tom about all those things. Okay thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35376/file/104411#t=0.0,3513.78286"}]}]}]}