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state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457#t=6711.57,6713.853"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457/transcript/34894/annotation/2076","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Daniel Hartwig:\u003c/strong\u003e Why do you think that is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457#t=6719.4,6720.963"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457/transcript/34894/annotation/2077","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just different research interests or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457#t=6724.69,6727.274"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457/transcript/34894/annotation/2078","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Professor Fink:\u003c/strong\u003e Who knows?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457#t=6727.274,6728.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131457/transcript/34894/annotation/2079","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Daniel Hartwig:\u003c/strong\u003e 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Department of mathematics oral history project. Today is June 23rd, 2021. I am interviewing Professor A. M. Fink Good morning Professor Fink\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Good morning.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] All right, so tell me a little bit about where you were born and something about the place you grew up in.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I was born on a farm in South Dakota in a community where everybody within 15 miles where we lived, spoke German and so my first language is German. The churches we went to were all German and I would think that generally speaking, the kind of farm that we had was six miles to the closest town. So I spent a lot of time by myself. I was the youngest of four siblings and so I'm used to solitude. I had a peculiar relation with my father. One of the things that we did for breakfast every morning, we had devotions and since I was the youngest I got to sit on his lap. I learned to read German because he would read big books and this is a gothic script, which is, hardly anybody can read.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] It is very tough.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And I learned how to write and that, and so we went through a one-room schoolhouse. One is grades one through four and seven, eight. Grades five and six were in the center of the world war II and there was a shortage of teachers and so the school was closed and I was buster, to the school in town and ever since then, I always shutter when I see a school buster, the terrible, terrible experience.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Why? Just leaving -\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah, it was 40 miles.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Two hours a day, either starting before school or after school, depending on when I was first or last on the bus, which would alternate. In the winter time no heat in the bus, would get cold. I got a lot of bullying doing that kind of stuff. It wasn't very pleasant. But I found out that the kids are not the only one that went through the town school as grades five and six, there were other farm kids there to. And I, even though it was presumably not the best school, I had no probability that I couldn't, the detriment to my background. And I found that it was other kids, from the farm that did well, when we went to town. For grade seven and eight. If you were in rural schools, you had to take a final exam , that was written by the superintendent of schools of the state. And the thing that, we're probably not as good at was science. At the country schools. And the other thing I was saying because there was the English part, I had trouble with that, because in eighth grade, because of the first question on the English report, was name three movies that you would see.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh, yeah?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I had never seen three movies.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh, wow.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] I and my older sibs', occasionally talked about movies, so I lied.\r\n\r\n- I wrote down three, and then I had to answer questions for three of them. but nevertheless, I had enough about county schools. But then when I went to the high school, the class was about 30 students. And then, our first classes were all the same. Everybody took the same thing, and it was history and English and mathematics and then government. And I can't remember what the second part of government was. But anyway, the math teacher became ill after just a couple of more days. And so they had to get a substitute teacher who was the wife of a congregational minister. And she could, she knew what she was doing and everything pretty well. And then later on, they got somebody to stay. and in the meantime I had discovered that I could read the book and nobody had to tell me. So I did a lot of helping other students, students would ask for that. This is an algebra factoring of automobiles in Afghanistan.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So where do you think this aptitude came from?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, I don't know. My dad was good at arrhythmic. My dad only went to seventh grade. In those times, hardly anybody went to high school. It was unusual to go to high school. I was born in 32, so that's part of the dust storms, depression. And so there was a gap, between me and the next source of people. Basically the people on the other side of the gap, all went to high school. But of my four siblings, only two of us went to high school. So my sister didn't get to go. She was 11 years older than I was. So she had to stay home and take care of me.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] My mother had asthma and emphysema and the dust storms, which is horrible to hear.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Do you remember those storms?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yes. And so she was sick a lot. And so my sister took care of me. What I don't know was, I'd enjoyed And by the second, my sophomore year in college, then the people that had teachers, that had gone off to war, had come back. And so then I got a good teacher, who had been there, who had taught my brother and so forth and so on. He also taught physics , and he taught me photography. Yes. And so we had, the advanced mathematics, was not a lot, or they didn't teach calculus, in those days, but, but it was additional, a lot of stuff. That's now, actually in college mathematics, so it was a nice course. And so I went to college. It was, I liked math...\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So what took you to Wartburg?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] What?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Why Wartburg?\r\n\r\n- Well, it was a church girl. I had relatives, an uncle that went. I had two cousins that went there. My brother went there.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] So, and that was a good experience. The major math...there's only like two, or 300 students. So there were, there was only one person in the math department. except for a couple of education courses, which were taught by educators, the math education weren't talked about. But anyway, the professor that we had, for mathematics was a retired missionary, not a Lutheran missionary, I don't know, but he had taught at Fisk University, which was a black school. He had come there to fill in and a marvelous teacher, very rigorous mathematics. It's not the kind of thing we, do in our state for freshmen. So lots of advanced geometry and doing things and we had to have notebooks and they had to be perfect.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So what was instruction like back then? Well, the thing is, I grew up, this goes back to the elementary school, the one room school house. The teacher did not teach anything. She would give assignments. And as the day was recess and recitation. There were a couple of chairs out in front of the room and then, all right. Then first grade come up and recite, and she would ask questions. And if you had a problem, then you went over to an eighth grader and asked them. Basically, that was the method in high school, too. We went to the board. Math class ,you went to the board. You were asked questions and you write your answer. And that's the way it was at Wartburg.` And the first time I ever took notes in class, is when I was in graduate school. I never once took a book home to do homework.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Really?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I did homework at school, So that was sort of funny because, 20 or 25 years ago, it was a new thing to put people in the book. Well, when I taught at Iowa state, I taught at Beardshear a fourth floor, and those rooms had had, 20 chairs, boards on three sides,\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And movable chairs. So the basic thing I did is, half the class would go to the board. And then, after a half hour, the other half, would go to the board. And I got used to teaching that. I continued to do that until I retired. I was the guy who put people on the board.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So that method stuck... and I still think it's a good way to do it, and things.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So talk a little bit more about your time at Wartburg. So what was life like at the time?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, let's see. Well, I, I don't remember. I, My father paid my tuition and room and board, but any expenses or books or things, that I had earned. So I did, as what I did the same in high school. I'd always read ahead. So if I had a question I could ask, but I never took notes. If there was a place where you were expected to say hello to everybody, knew everybody, everybody knew you, the bane of my existence, Of course, is my first name. Because when I went to the high school, nobody would call me that. I was \"Fink\" all through high school. And when I went to Wartburg, I would just, I would say, meet in the street and introduce myself. And he says, \"but what do they call you?\" He goes, \"surely nobody calls you that.\"\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And I got a phobia about my name. I couldn't, tell him my name anymore.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Really?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] When I came to Iowa state, I just said, I'm not going to tell anybody about my name. and I never did.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay, So did you always go by A.M or?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yes, I decided that would be my professional name.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah, and so I did a various things, as a freshman I set pins at a bowling alley, and those cases when they didn't have I did that. I washed windows for widows that lived nearby. I had two roommates who were the mailmen, who distributed the mail and I would pitch in and do that if one of them had something else. And the other thing is I worked in the gym, cleaning the gym, setting chairs, when there was an event. And as a sophomore, by that time, I had dropped doing the pin setting. But I was still, I took up the job of, we had intermurals, and I was co-chair of the intermural program. And so , we had flag football, basketball, track meet and softball. And so I'd have to arrange for that. Then I got on the crew, the regular crew for the gym. And so I didn't have a lot of spare time. but I would keep up, cause I always was ahead of everybody. And then in my junior year, I was the sole person in charge of intermurals. And I was the chief of the crew, the gym crew so I know the judge janitor's better probably than most people do. And yeah, that was a lot of fun. So when I was calling up the draft in the middle of my junior year. And like in February, I got my notice. I was supposed to come in March. And so I appealed that, to the state board, I knew I would lose, But I got through the rest of the year, before they could get me. So then I spent two years, being a mathematician in the army.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So what did that entail?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, basically, survey. Like a civil engineer, We spent a lot of time. So I took up, basic training at Camp Chaffee. That is all the ordinary stuff for eight weeks, and then went to Fort Sill. And it was , the whole, batteries, of people that were always within Chafee went there. And there was this, So essentially everybody was either a graduate of a college and, or had been like me basically through, where you were sort of an egg, egghead unit. And we learned that the thing, the application of mathematics, to, the idea of life is that; I'm sitting here and there's, over there, There's somebody shooting at me. Where is he? All right. So you need to find out. And so, there was a unit in out battery called the flash unit, and it just disappeared, essentially , binoculars, that you would, you would be in a, foxhole, and then these will look over, and then you would look for the flash. Now you had six people that did this, and then you would plot that on a map , and you know which direction that he went. And so we had directions, and that would be where it was. Then they had a lot of sound. Which it had microphones. They put six microphones. And what happened was, is they would hear the sound, but they would hear, a different sound, so this one was close, so then they had a machine that recorded, the difference in the sound. And that would tell you how far apart they are, and again, six in, then you would plot that. And these are hyperbolas, instead of lines they were hyperbolas. And so then there was a unit that had an established longitude and latitude, of the microphones or the flash thing, or the, the guns that they were telling how. so that's the unit I got put in, eventually. And so I stayed at Fort Steele, for an extra six weeks of training. Supposedly to be in charge of somebody. Then I was sent to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, in which, Fort Bragg is the 72nd airborne, except we weren't airborne. And then, so I spent, oh, from , probably, December, until August, a year later, doing mathematics, and this is just trigonometry, it's basically, trigonometry. So there was no calculator at the time. So books you would use to log tables , and seven place log runs. At the end of that, I could tell you that any number, I could tell you the first three digits of a log run. Fortunately, I've forgotten. Knowing what the log run and base two was a very useful thing. Because in nuclear science, they do a thing based to. And to go back from the base tandem to base two, requires the logarithm of 2 .3 0 1 0 3 0 0.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So were computers, did you use computers at all during, or was this all by hand in terms of?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Its all by hand except that there was also a radar unit. That, the radar, did all the calculations. But that was very primitive. And there were people that were doing, sending out air Sundays. These are weather balloons. Because the, the trajectory, is affected by the wind and the moisture, and humidity and all kinds of things. When these things were at at a certain altitude would burst, and come back down, be parachuted back down. And if people found them, they were supposed to send them back, so they could be used again. And, yeah, so that's, and I guess I did a couple of things, I got when, When we first got there, to Fort Bragg. The first day, the Sergeant in charge of the platoon, had us do an exercise, during the trigonometry. And so I was sat in the class, and he gave me some things to do, and I whipped that off, and I was sitting there that's the worst thing you can do, because he thought I was goofing off. And I said, well, I've already done it. I showed it to him. So I was teaching the class the next day. So I got this, I got this push to be, So for 4th of July or something like that, we were going to have a parade, in Fayetteville, in town. And so we wanted to know how many people would show up. So, our battery, which is, was five different platoons. And so the first Sergeant said, that for each Platoon Sergeant, was supposed to have a count, and that I was supposed to keep track of how many it is. So it was like 25, 24. And at the end, I told them about the total. So, okay. Then I was supposed to do it again. And so I did not like that. I did not like that. So I deliberately made an error. So he wouldn't ask me again. And actually the similar thing happened in my eighth grade, algebra, because one of the things is, a substitute teacher had us add columns of two tricky numbers. And there'll be a contest of who can add it fast. Well, I could add them, as fast as I wrote them down and I won. And then of course, the next week I'm supposed to defend. And I didn't like that. So the first time I went up , I deliberately made an error, so I didn't have to do it again. and then there was one other time We had an exam, this is the fourth, or fifth army, I forget what we were. Would give our company a test. And there was a timed test, where we were supposed to determine coordinates of this very spot. And the way you do that, you start at a place that you know, and there's another place that's known, and you figure out what direction that is. And then you turn an angle, and then you know, where you go. And then you stop, and you turn in an angle and you'd use the earth. And then to check it, you end up on a place that, you know. And that tells you how, how close. Basically then you said there was a formula, for how much you were allowed. And basically what we were doing, We were allowed , one foot in 10,000 feet. So if this was 10,000 feet, we were allowed a foot.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh wow.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] But boy, we weren't satisfied with that. We did the test, and it was toward evening, and the time is almost up. And we discovered, we weren't close to the dang thing.\r\n\r\n- So what I did, here was what I knew the coordinates were supposed to be. I computed the coordinates, that we had, and I computed what, I put them down. And they, determined which direction we were wrong. And then you would go back and see, that one of the legs here was parallel to that. So I said \"the guys that taped that distance made an error.\" So we sent them back, and then sure enough, they found a hundred foot error, So that was it. Nobody knew what I did. I didn't tell anybody, it was a miracle, But it was not, not a good thing to be the expert. So then I went, the thing that happened to me, I worked for a guy, took some of my favorite classes that I ever took at Wartburg, who were out of my junior year. Really nice, nice ones. And once, I remember now, I actually wrote little booklets, about those topics, which had been printed by what called UMAT Mathematics. Also what happened, of course, is you begin to be real mathematics courses. That is you're expected to be able, to do proofs and things like that. And so I liked that, but that was hard. For me, it was hard. Some of the pros that I had to memorize, I couldn't figure out how I would have to memorize them for exams. But when I got back from the army, that was a completely difference.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] How so?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] I don't know. I was just two years older it was a breeze. I could do the proofs, and that stuff. So when I went to graduate school...\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So were you always expecting to go on to grad school? So what were your career plans?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] No. The thing is, in my junior year, I had to take a lot of physics. I essentially had a major in physics. I didn't declare it, but I had. That stood me well.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Because my basic teaching here, was teaching third semester calculus and differential equations for engineering. So I knew that engineering. I would give applications, that were real problems. Because I knew the engineering, from the physics classes. And I believe that hardly anybody else in the department does that. So then it really made a difference, when I would try different things, depending on the size of the class. I couldn't get people to the board, when you had 50 people in class. So you had to do something different. And so I always required homework. I made homework, and that was passed back the next day. And, and that was part of the grade. I tried various thing, for awhile, I had a list of engineering problems, There's 42 of them. And the aim of the course, was to learn how to do those 42 problems.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Wow Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] That worked quite well. I couldn't teach most of those classes, the way I taught, My math classes I taught, going to the board a few times and things, I would not lecture, basically not, but if there was too many people, I couldn't do that. But then I guess, I still am doing, you're asking about Wartburg.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So you're finishing up Wartburg. So, why did you want to go to grad school in YSU?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] The thing is, I had, I went off on a tangent. My professor, Selma, had asked me what I intended. I said, \"well, I'm probably going to go teach high school. Well, I said, \"then you had to take education classes.\" So I started taking some education classes, which I hated. So when I got back from the army there was no way I was going to be high school teacher. And so, he said, you know, \"Go to graduate school, and you should go to someplace where they do applied mathematics.\" And so he told me, \"Don't go to Minnesota. But your higher states are a good place to go.\" I won't tell you why Minnesota, because, probably I shouldn't say.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] And so what was Iowa state like at the time?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, a lot of people. It was, NSF. The Sputnik era had just started. And NSF had programs for lots of fellowships. I took the NSF, exam. I didn't win a scholarship, but I, I got on a fellowship list. I got various people asking me to come there. The one other place I remember was Case. Was it Case or? What's the other school in Cleveland? Craig Mellon? Well, I forget, but they offered me $4,000, Which I didn't take. I found out later tuition, it was over 3000 and it was not paid.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Not a good deal.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Sounds good.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Carnegie! Carnegie!\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] There you go.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And so I never saw a couple of Carnegie crew graduates faculty here on the staff when I came here. But yeah. So I liked the applied mathematics. I retained my interest in history. I took history of science. John Greene, who is a fairly famous science historian. Graduated Harvard and came here, and then was here for awhile, then went to Kansas and then it went back to Harvard. I took a minor in history of science. So I wrote a lot of papers, which he, John Green didn't know a lot about physics and math. That was his weakness. I wrote these papers, which he would turn into lectures for his classes.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So how did you settle on your area of focus for your dissertation?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] It's hard to say, I guess. I liked the professor that I had. He talked about ordinary differential equations. He was good to be in. I had a crappy dissertation, so it was something that he wanted me to do. To see what we can do abstractly\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] So your advisor\r\n\r\n- [Prof. Fink] There was no There was no natural end. I haven't solved the problem. Can this theory be extended, this way? And so I, you know, I did it got it to the library and I forgot about it. So I did the real things that I wanted to do.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I wouldn't tell anybody to go and read it.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay. So after grad school, you had a series of, you know, short stints. So talk a little bit about your work at Mathematica Virginia in Nebraska.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, Mathematica was a company that had grants from, very military organizations. The parent organization was, they did research, advertising and marketing problems. And so the way to apply mathematics to business, is basically The chairman, the president of the company is, was a graduate of heart here, Harlan mills, one of our very good, graduates. When he graduated, he wrote a thesis in game theory. And then he went to Princeton, which was the, the big place for game theory at the time, Oskar Morgenstern was there, and several other things. And he's the one that hired me.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And so I worked then on, on a grant that was with RCA engineers and the department of Navy. And it was a secret project.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Was it ever de-classified? Can you talk about it?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] ] Well, Basically not, but it was a basically, how do you communicate with submarines?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] The waves don't go into the water. You have to be up. And the submarines had three sort of positions, which said a level of coming up, you could send up a short antenna, or you could set up a conning tower, or you could, come up. And in each case there was, if there was a plane flying, you could detect, whether they had radar on it or not, but it depended on which position of what, how much, how far you could go, into a little, with all local. And if you wanted to fire, you had to be all the way up. Well also, the guy in an airplane is doing the same thing, he's trying to lure you out, to come up. So he's up there, turning off his radar every once in a while. And so then you play this game,\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Cat and mouse.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Cat, and mouse. And a matter of fact. If the guy is too good at picking you, you can use his signals as a message. It's no game. It's really, it's an interesting problem. And of course, GPS just takes that on. But the thing is, I didn't, It took me awhile to, to get cleared, to read classified material. Well, you have to understand that three of my grandparents came from Russia.\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] So during the cold war, that was a problem.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Of course. Luckily they were just Jewish, peasant farmers.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Did that ever come up again, aside from?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] No. No. So the first paper I read was of course, secret, and I looked at it and I said, everything that was there, I had already read a newspaper, which really sounded peculiar to me. But then, the place that I worked Mathematica was on the second and third floor, of a building on main street, in Princeton. And the fourth floor was, the Duke Institute for Defense Analysis. And there's some mathematicians who were working there. And so I asked him, you know, What's going on with this thing. And then they explained it to me that here's a guy, whose desk, are documents. And he has to decide whether it's classified or not. He can make two kinds of errors, one classify, something that doesn't really it's classified, but nobody cares about that one. It's the other one that gets into the problem. So he's biased. And so, then secondly, how do you, he can't read these. He just has to scan them, and he's scanning for words. So Atomic bomb probably is automatic, or the ambassador says,\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Radar.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah. You know, and of course that's what these day.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh yeah, it's still classified yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] We had one of our graduates, works for company in Georgia that, that works on anti-hacking, and an incredible number of attempts of hacking. And he said that the way you do it is there, if you hack the certain commands that I have to appear and you'll look for it for those. And so, and so this is the vocabulary that you're looking for. Yeah. It's all, it's all that. And I, and I, but I did interesting thing was I got to work with the Professors at Princeton university and we were told to go to seminars. And so we did. And so I got to know some very famous people, and I got to know John Nash's thesis, John Asher was there at the time. And they had a conference on, on that. Some of his things we're working on. So I wrote a sequel to his thesis paper, number two, it's extends. He has his thesis was about a deterministic problems. And I said, why? And I wrote the same paper with stochastic. So there were, and so that paper is as, as a splash at the read histories of Jesse games and said, my paper was the first there. And my first paper also does this PI thing. It was my first paper. It was, both of them are games, game theory were, were written basically when I was at Mathematica But when, by the time I got them and shaped her to publish them, I was someplace else. But yes.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Were you ever interested in maybe kind of continuing along those lines? Or why did you can kind of then switch to the academic?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, I, somehow I didn't Like, Princeton Wasn't a good place to live. It was the university and nothing else. Well, the Institute for defense analysis and Einstein...\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Advanced research.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And so I got to know the people that were doing operations research. So Harlan mills, who was the president, but took it upon himself to teach people how to use operations research. And so he, for a long worked for EGE for a long time. And then he market research corporation of America hired him to do Mathematica, but it lasted only about four years. So he hired me in January at the math meetings. And then I left and two people, other people from here went there. My major Professor did, and my best friend went there, Princeton was, had, had no apartments. I had to take a room and in a private home didn't have kitchen facilities. And, and there was only one place to eat breakfast. And, you know.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So it was more of the living conditions, not necessarily...\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Living conditions, but the interesting thing about it is one of the people I worked on was L Tucker, who was chairman of the department. And so then I mentioned one day that it, well, I decided to go to Virginia and he got angry at me. He says, \"You should've told me, cause I would have hired you to Princeton.\" But I said, but I said, I said, well, I, I promised and I've come. I'm not going to back up. Otherwise I would have said, that's the biggest mistake I ever made.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So looking back, you would have...\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Shouldn't have done that. Yeah. And, but my major Professor, I lined it up, had gone to, he had gone to Princeton as, as a visitor for a year or two. So they, they knew about us. And I, I actually, Walter Gilbert was on the faculty here who was a graduate of Princeton and his major Professor, he talked to his major Professor into talking to me. And so I, he had actually had an interview with him and I was embarrassed because I couldn't, and my thesis wasn't really what he was interested in. Yeah. So I, I don't know how you pick things, but I, I, I wrote those two papers and gave three and then the other paper was, how do you swing? How do you make a swing go highest, given a, given a time? How do you do that? Well, that's after you, you, you, A kid learns how to pump. Well, if you wanted to get it to a , given a time, say two minutes, and there's this, what's the strategy. Where do you start your pump? Where do you end it? Where, so you, one of the things is you let, and one of the other thing is, is there's two things to do. You can hold it. So, so, so what you can do, there's a maximum and a minimum, and you can do anything in between. And it's interesting as is that the answer is you do something periodic. It's a periodic thing. And what you do is you anticipate, when you get back, you don't wait to start pumping pump, pump part of the pumps you're slowing you down and you do at the other end, the same thing you, you do anticipate it. So, and then you can make it go up actually exponentially. Yeah. So, well, I haven't been studied, find, find that are interesting.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] And then, so at Virginia and then why Nebraska?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Virginia, well. Virginia, the small department, I think I was ACE person. And did they, they had a course that with everybody in the science, L N A L E S had to take to graduate. And it was a little bit of, a little bit of algebra, a little bit of analytic geometry, a little bit of calculus, polynomial, calculus, nothing. And so my teaching schedule was to teach three classes of that. And for two years there was only one calculus class. That was the only one section of calculus. And so it was a men's school and all kinds of peculiarities, which we probably shouldn't get into, but a friend of mine was at Nebraska and I, I knew him. And so in those days you have to remember that there was a shortage of PhD. I never interviewed for a, an academic position.\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] I've heard that before. And obviously, you know, looking back, applying today's logic, it seems astounding, I've heard that before a number of occasions now.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] So, so I, so I went and read, wrote some papers together and you know, so the reason I went to Colorado is because he had gone to Colorado and I followed him for a year. Yeah. At Nebraska for five years, they, they treated me really good. They gave me good classes to teach. And, and my methods were really good there as I, I taught the real variables class, which is the basic one that everybody has to take. I taught that you're going to the boards and do problems on the board. And, and I did that twice. And I would go to math meetings and meet these kids. \"Thanks for doing it.\" You know, \"I never learned this more anywhere else\" I thought tried to teach things like projective, geometry. And so it was a lot, lot interesting the aspect of the department that I didn't like, but I probably other things to say about Nebraska. I had four PhD students there in five years and one of them applied at Iowa State. And so I wrote a letter of recommendation for him send it, and Iowa State replied that they would rather have me\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] really?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah And so my student already had also an offer from university of Connecticut. So he had a place to go. So I, so I did that.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So let's take a break. All right. So you had written a letter of recommendation for a student and they asked for you.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So how did you respond to that?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, I said, yeah. Actually George Seiffert was somebody that I had known. I never took a class from him, but we were doing the same sorts of things and he wanted to do joint and we did several joint papers with him.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So you had gone here as a student. So were you apprehensive about returning or no.\r\n\r\n- [Prof. Fink] No. I mean, I, in those days there used to, there used to be a coffee room in the union. I don't know. Well, it it's, I dunno. Do you remember or know where the old room big rooms were. But anyway, that was a smaller room, small. room, coffee room, a Nickel coffee, and you paid yourself and you, and we would walk from, from veer chair on that, at that time for coffee and we were talking mathematics. And so it was really, really a nice atmosphere or really nice atmosphere and which unfortunately is no longer exists.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So coming back to the two departments, what was the reputation of the mathematics department? What about specifically in your field of research?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Actually pretty well because George was George and I, and some people that came that we recruited and I had, whoever's at least five of us that were doing ordinary differential equations. And so it was, I always had the Fink seminar, as long as I was on the faculty faculty to Nebraska and here, it was always the Fink seminar.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] And what did that consist of?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, either things that I was interested in, or things I wanted to learn, new things, maybe old things from somebody else, but I didn't, I, that doesn't mean I talked all the time, but I would arrange for the topic. And so, so we learned all kinds of things. Non-standard analysis, for example, there was a logic, logical way to do mathematics, things like that. Yeah. A lot of fun.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] What were the dynamics, in the department like back then and how would you describe. its culture?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Okay. The thing is, the culture was that that, that people would talk to each other. And, but I think that the head of the department was not assertive. And what was happening was is that the faculty salaries and student salaries that we had were way behind everybody else around. And the trouble was to us, that, that, that the head of the department was an ex army guy. And he just thought, was that the best way, the best thing you can do is not ask for anything.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] And did that make it difficult, to try to recruit?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, yeah. I mean, we recruit , because lots of people left, not didn't stay wasn't that.\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] And so who did you work most closely with, and what were some memorable stories or memories you have of them?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, I've been doing, ooh I dunno. Lets see. I wrote some papers with Georgia and Mike Smiley, a very minor, minor thing I did for him that he had, there was one he had, was having trouble with one of his arguments. I was able to see how I went and he insisted to put my name on it. I ordinarily wouldn't have put my name on it, but I did a little, quite a few joint things, but was not faculty here. I spent a year, my wife had a Rockefeller grant to be at the university of Iowa until no reason she had to be there for a year or to finish a book. So I went along, I didn't see no reason to live apart. And there was a couple of fellows there that had all had lots of problems to work and didn't know how to do. I still wouldn't buy one. I took them on surely. Yeah. So, so, so I, I'd get in the habit of, I, I made the claim and this is probably true. I don't have the data, this is dead. That I threw away, if people wrote to me asking about some things that I had published, I didn't keep track of that. I never wrote it out well, but I can remember that with the exception of South Africa, every I, there, the mathematician and every developed country that wrote to me Norway, there was one guy in there. And so, and so I have joined the joint authors, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Japan, Chile, Mexico, Vietnam.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] In the computer age, that's much simplified and much easier. But before that talk about the research process and collaboration.\r\n\r\n- [Prof. Fink] Two of my books have triple author. I mean, you can see that one is the creation. One's the Serbian. Well, the Serbian was somebody that I knew I had had written a book and which he asked me to write certain sections. So I did. And so, and that was published without attribution. So nobody knows , that there is sections that I wrote for him. Well, he had, he had his interest was in inequalities, mathematical inequalities. And so he, he he's coming up to seeing that at the end of life. And so he's as Magnus Opus is to publish every inequality that find ever to the references and probably sort to every that he knows. And so it was a five volume set, and I did volume and, he's a Serbian. And this is just when Serbia and Croatia were having trouble with each other. And so one of his students was a Croatian that got, that got fired at the Serbian at Belgrade university for being Croatian. And so he wasn't, but, but they had started, they had written some insert there, several Croatian language. And so which were translated. And so I did those two books with , and, and there was no internet at that time. And they couldn't because of the problems with Serbia and Croatia, they could not send mail to each other.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Oh, wow. Okay.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] So, you know, it's this and that, this and that. And yeah. And so I, I, two of them, two of them had been published by the time I started, I did the fourth, third and fourth, and he asked me to help him the fifth. And I declined. I said, I'm tired of being an editor and it might not, I was writing parts, but basically it was being an editor. So until I actually, there's a whole bunch of people in Australia that I've written papers with Melbourne. So I was at Catalina university in Sicily for a summer seminar, a seminar, a week-long seminar on inequality. And I was the, I had given per plannery earlier the first day, the second day, then I joined the small group that was doing inequality. And they, they made me the, the chair of the session. So I introduced people, discovered PF Thoreau and, Antonio, and everybody was a Italian name. And that's how we were walking across campus to, to place these lunch. And I said, well, you know, all these, where did all these Italians come from? And I said, well, he said that \"their parents had fled Italy at the end of the second world war. And there was a big Exodus from, from, from Italy to Australia\" and so on. These are they're they're. They're interesting. And, and, and so, and so then it's interestingly enough, Charlie Pierce was said, oh, he says in my, \"in my great grandson Quaker, great grandfather came to New Zealand.\" And I said, \"are you a Quaker too?\" And Charles Pearson is, yeah. And so, so I ran across you, we had conferences and at least three more times that we were there with these people and Charles Kurth killed himself, driving a car too fast. So that's the nice thing about being a mathematician because I I've, I've been in a lot of countries, met lots of people, you know? So I think I said, man counted once 25 countries I've been in, not all because of mathematics, but certainly one of the perks.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Absolutely. On the flip side, were there any challenges that you faced and how did you handle them?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, I was used to, and then the department did a department at Nebraska and here I was used to being on the, in the minority all the time.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] And how so?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I don't know, just whenever something could come up, I would not, not feel the right thing to do. the exception was that in oh, 1982, I think basically one of my friends, several of my friends in the department who are among the best people that we had went elsewhere and it had real grievances in the department, mostly because salaries and how they're treated by the department head. So we would have one , departmental meeting a year, the first week,\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] That's it?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Yeah. Well, the first, the first week of it, and then we were told how many pieces of chalk and how many pieces of paper we could use. Things like that, just, just ridiculous. And so it irritated me and we were down, our graduate program was almost non-existent really our, our, our stipends were low everybody else. And so I got disgusted. So I, I got up at the apartment meeting and I said, \"Is it appropriate to, to have a motion?\" And he said, yes. And I says, my motion was, is that we write a constitution for the department and that we learn how to govern ourselves. And they agreed to do that. And so every Thursday we would meet and, and I asked you about, and here was, this is a department that if you had 30 people discussing something, there would be 35 different opinions. The last Thursday of the second semester, we said Finney. And the main thing was, is that, that if it head was going to be continued, he had to be raided by the department. And so essentially candy. And, and so I wasn't very popular with him and I, that's what I became graduate coordinator. And so I think one of my triumphs is that when I ended my five-year term, instead of 28 students, we did 105 grad instead.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Say that again. So 25 to, 108?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, something like that. I mean, it's might be a couple off, but there were never a new programs involved, but actually, NSF send a team out, wanted to know how we were doing it. So good. But they never asked me it was really peculiar.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Why not?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] They do, I don't know. They didn't interview me.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Well, so talk about two things there. One, so talk a little bit more about how the department changed during your career, and then how well...\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Because that, that was attached to to get people in the areas that we had and get groups. So we had logic group and we had a PDE group and we had an ode group. Yeah. So there was that, that thing. And then we were pretty pretty hard on some, on young people, if they didn't, they didn't do much, we started, not returning, renewing. So you've got to do that, but, you know, so the other thing is, and this is I something that I want to write sometime, but the math department has had a peculiar position in this university from the very beginning that they were agents of broadening the, the things that were studied here. And because they were eclectic in hiring, I don't know I want to write some of this sometime, but I don't know how to start it. If I get it started, for example, George Jones, the first chairman of the math department, math and civil engineering and architecture. And he wasn't allowed , to teach a real mathematics by the interests. And he was fired because he pushing back, went to Cornell and had agreed to. And, but so then shortly after then the civil engineering department became independent. So there's the first engineering department was, was set off from the math department. And so the math department consisted of Stanton. And a couple of women that he had hired and he started teaching political economy. So in the last part of the 19th century, he was teaching, of course, that's economics these days, though what was called political economy. And that was seen as such a, a good thing to do that in about 1900, I would have to specific dates, but they hired somebody to do economics. And then the economics departments started economics department. So then you go to 1913 and they hired George Snedecor. This is a guy that's got a physics degree, master, physics masters, and he's hired by the math department. And lo and behold what happened, you know, I think the department nurtured him through setting up statistical lab and then the simplistic of the laboratory and he's there for And then you have to go back to, so at as a, as a person, that's got an electrical engineering degree from Florida applies for, at the graduate school in the math department. Why does he, I talked to him at the when he was here for an hour. And when he was, when he was here a year for, to be the grand Marshall Resha parade. So he came to the department and I was supposed to be the host, and he came an hour early on. So I talked to him and he loved talking to a mathematics person because he didn't have to explain mathematics Yeah. Well, anyway, so he comes, constitute to the math department. So I asked him, \"why did you ?\" Well, he said \"the math department had the reputation of being, working, real problems.\" Well, this is by this time, E. R. Smith was the chair of the department. And, and he got his degree with Edward Allen. I don't know if you ever knew who Edward Ellen was, but as big and in your department and for various reasons. Well, so, he gets his master's degree from, with Edward, it was something about an atom with spherical, symmetrical symmetry, something like that, but he stays around for a couple of years. As adjunct, I guess teacher, then he goes off to Wisconsin to get a PhD in physics and the math department, hires him to come back. It's the math department. And what does he get interested in? He's interested in differential equations. Why is he interested? Cause there's five other guys in the department that are. He's got lots of people that talk about it. But then what he does is meanwhile, there's Snedecor, and he's got into statistics. And if he purchased some IBM card reader, punch card readers, oh, David, which are basically, you can sort all you can do, telling, he and his buddy, A. E. Brent spent a lot of time in the room with those sorters musing about whether it was possible to use them to actually compute something. Why did I and Osk', work on his computer? Because Snedecor was there and because it was other five, five people PDEs. See, so, and, so at the end, and of course, then he half time with physics later on, but until he was here, he, half of his salary was mathematics. Half of it was physics. so Jane smiley is here giving a talk about computers and they keep advertising at an as being an associate Professor of physics. It really pissed me off the, the math department does these nice things. And then.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So looking back to this, you know, reputation for working on real problems, is this the land grant mission? Is this the, where did this come from? Do you think? How did it evolve?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] The plight of mathematics and those is, was what I call British mathematics. So then instead of studying strange strains and, and tensions in machines, plates in shelves, and, it was a standard thing that British mathematics did for a long time. And so the deal whole, who is the next chair after Smith, and some of our best graduates, Archie Higdon was one of our graduates. PDE was then here in the engineering department. And he was the first chair of the math department of the air force academy. So yeah, these are real problems on stress analysis, actually, Harland Miller master's degree was about the stress analysis of a dental plate. His father was made was from Fort Dodge and owned a, they made plates.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] That's a real world problem.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] So Harlan, during the second world war was a flight instructor. As a civilian, he refused to fly. He was going to give a paper, to the metal dental people out in California. So he had to take the train. So he went to the library. And saw one of the new books, which was von Neumann and Morgenstern theory of games. And so he read that all the way. And so when he got there, he changed the title to how you can make more money by using game theory. that's the real problem working, real problem, working. Delightful story.\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] Had he flown, he may never have read that book.\r\n\r\n- [Prof. Fink] We made it in distinguished alumnus, and he, he wouldn't fly up here, but by that time he was ill. But yeah, I think that's what, the next group of people that did this, then that, that the aeronautical engineering department wanted to form the graduate school graduate program. They hired Ernie Anderson from the math department. Then the engineering school who had formed a new theoretical and applied mechanics department. And they got Harry Weiss from the math department to be the head chair. That's what I mean, you know, and one day the computation center needs somebody to vote. They came to the math department hired Claire Maple. And when they started a new computer science department, wheat did they do? They had co-chairs Bob Stewart, electrical engineer, and Bob Lambert, mathematic. And when they decided to have real department, then they hired George Strawn, One of our graduates to be the first chair. So we did the continuous, you know, feeding, feeding into the, making broad broadening the academics of the department, because the math department had these people who can do something besides mathematics. And so it's a nice thing. I'd like to see that because I looked down, I noticed that those pictures downstairs, no mathematics people.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Really?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Not even Evan Atholl!\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] These were, I think, commissioned within the last decade, but it's still ongoing. So maybe, maybe someday. Picking up a little bit on, you know, how mathematics, you know, integrated with all these various departments. Talk a little bit about certainly how computation and computer science and technology affected the field of mathematics in the department here.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] The thing was, it was interesting that it was thought by departments that when computers started around they had a mainframe. I took the very first course in coding. and it was from H. O. Hartley statistics department, the worst class, course I've ever taken. And the first people that were the fishing department was heavily attached to the agriculture and economics department. That's their, that was their mainstays statistics. And H. O. Hartley was, was one of the people that did that. And then, so, but then it was the physics and chemistry department discovered that there were some things that they could do with a computer with, which would be good. And so they would have these programs, the problems that they would get in that line for the mainframe, and they never made it Hartley would always slip in another economic problem. And so that was a big blow up, but I, which we probably shouldn't get into, I don't know any of those things, but anyway, what happened, that's taken away from Hartley, Hartley left. He went to Texas. It was interesting. They had funny money. We're gonna spread a million dollars for computing. Your grant. And then they would say, and then how much they charge , and then nobody would ever change. But when the million was over, then it was over. Yeah. And so, yeah. And so the, and the chemistry, and of course the physics department very big, they had to had a strong arm and, but at one point we had a psychology, a man as the head of the Dean, he put 90% of that funny money in the psychology department, for example. So things weren't good. And so the math department didn't count it at all. And so people started getting workstations. And so that's how we got, started and period we had tired for years to get a person on the faculty in numerical analysis and always just couldn't partly because of the facilities were so poor. And even the teams that came in and rated the maths department, or always say that computing was, they couldn't figure out why a mathematician would want a computer. Well, most of the things you discover, you can't compute exactly. You can compute surrogates that are reasonable.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Let's switch gears a little bit and talk about teaching. So you've spoken a little bit about some of your methods, but talk about the teaching components of your work and what was your approach to teaching?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] My approach was, is that, that it should not be competitive. I did not want students thinking that they had to compete with somebody else. So I, I very carefully at the beginning of the class would hand out and I said, this is how you figured out your own grade. You can figure out your own grade. So the exams are this, this, this, and this, and this, The homework is this, the final exam is this. And basically 65% was the first exercise in each section. If you, if you wanted to get 65%, you had to be able to do the first problem , you going to realize that that was not going to be one of the harder ones. And, and then, so, if you wanted to get a D, then you'd have to get 65. And if you wanted to get a C you had to get 75 and a B 85 and A 90 and make out your own grade, if you want to. So the homework private, the homework side, I did, I did not expect them to get a hundred percent. So I fudged that. So 100% would have been either the, the actual score of the best homework problem with a hundred percent. And, and so, so then, so in that there was a little bit of competition there, but not, not much. So then that part of I would, I would tell them that the last, the last day of the semester, I would tell them what their homework problem grade.\r\n\r\n- [Hartwig] What course did you enjoy teaching the most?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well the 3 0 8 is the one that I gave it's in the, I wrote with the book, but it's just a book that I got Kinko's to, to make the book. So that was the cheapest book they've ever had. So I thought that that was linear programming, and it was very, it wasn't about linear programming. It was about duality and within the mathematics, but it was designed so that if math students took that they could understand every proof because most of the proofs were constructed is actually I just computed something. actually at 1 point, one day, one time the head of the department, came to my office and it said that they had an ex deputy, they perform exit interviews of math graduates. And they asked, \"Did you ever have a memorable instructor or a memorable course?\" And that, course is the only one that's ever been mentioned.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] What do you think about, what was it that you know was memorable or?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, that's what I, the first thing I learned when I went to Mathematica is I had to learn linear programming. Cause that wasn't one of the linear programming is probably the most used mathematics algorithm estimate. I think a million uses of it per month or something like that. I don't know. But yeah. And the interesting thing is that's some statistics, people would, would take this also beside, and there was a woman with a master's degree. that got a master's degree. Had taken my course. And I was on her committee and then she had used some of the stuff on an accord. And the story was that when she got a job with United Airlines in Chicago and on the first day she got, got them million dollars. Wow. It saves a million dollars. Well, you know, United Airlines.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] It's still nice to put on.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink ] I don't know whether that's really true I don't know. It's a story to tell, but second, to believe, but yeah. So that was important. And as a matter of fact, I used that other places when I was at Virginia, I, that class that everybody had to take, we didn't live in analytic geometry where we can do a 2 - dimension lines by pictures.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So what kind of changes in the student body have you witnessed during your career? Certainly their preparedness or how it was today?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] If I run over the first day when I not I'm going to take homework, there was, there was a certain exodus on the decline for some people. But I think changed time, or, yeah. I don't know.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Well, let's talk about grad students then. So how did you interact with, and what was your approach to grad students?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well as I say, I had the seminar until I, some of the seminars that the thanks seminar was carried credit. And so I know I never knew what happened, but my, my major things was ordinary differential equation and I never taught graduate class, ordinary differential equation. Not once.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Why?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I do not understand that, I was not, I was not somebody that would go in and to the department head and say, \"I want this.\" I thought his job to decide what I teach. And , I never understood, why that did not happen. It was one of the most, most successful courses out in Nebraska. And, but I the, the students that I had here, I had five students. I think five PhD students here, one of whom was jointly with Brian Pearson and I had an article in engineering. So that's another one of those real problems that I, and then three foreign students who, who work hard and of South Korea and Cairo, Egypt, and Algeria. So the other thing is, is later, later in my life, I decided to, to do anything that looked interesting, not necessarily. So I did not have a good program. I problem-oriented, I would find a problem. I found some problems by going into the statistics. I would go regularly to the statistics colloquium, and I, I got a couple of problems from there. So like, one of them, the thing is here's, here's something here's you to that and this way. And when do you know when to stop? Well, when you get tired, you stop. Well, that's ridiculous. So what you have to deceive what's at the end. And so, yeah, so, so that makes it hard for graduate students to, for having problems. That's fair. a long time ago, I didn't accept more students because I was doing these things, these booksellers writing, I was still publishing solutions to problems that I found elsewhere. And that's the other thing is you don't get grants when you do that. And so that, that has been, I knew that was what happened. And, and I accepted that until then. So my salary would also, it was an excuse for it, for part of his chair, not to not get it raised, to tell you, you didn't get a grant.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] All right. Well, let's switch gears and then talk a little bit about the field and, and your research. So what would you say have been the most significant developments in your field of research.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] So you never developed, I guess I, what are we thinking about?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Just in terms of how , kind of your work as evolved or changed or additional insights that have built on or come about from early research or Or , you can just begin just talk about, you know, how your research evolved over time, and you talked about these various problems of interest.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] They're not always connected. They were, for example, I spent some time in Queensland or Australia, Queensland, and the reason was, is there was a problem that a professor there had posed in a journal and I looked at it and it says I can do that. So I did it. And so he wanted me to come and work with him until we went down. So I went down six months and I think I wrote six papers. Well, some of them were things that I had started doing. Well, I could, if I got tired, I could go outside and sit in the sun, didn't have to teach. And yeah. So that, that went well. And the other thing is I spent 13 years as so treasure or the Iowa association of mediators, because some of the things that I did in game theory had application to mediation. And so I gave, there was a period where I was giving lots of, of talks about that to Kansas city area, to the associate judges in this state of Missouri at all times, the idea being that suppose that, that you and I had owned a house jointly. And now where do we want to separate? You know, and then how do do it so that most of us are happy. Alright. So the standard thing, of course, is a hire Somebody to say how much the house is worth, but that's the worst thing you can do. The reason being that there's now three numbers on the table, your number, my number and that number. And if you look at the suppose that they're random numbers and they can have six, six orders, this one is the smallest, this is the medium. And in four of them, somebody has to accept something less than what they believe that they're owed. So that's not very good. And so I can do it every time. it's an interesting property of the average of two numbers. Oh, here's the rule. This is, think it through, you decide how much you think the house is worth to you. You can do whatever you want and you don't have to tell me, you don't have to, have any proof though with that. And I'll do the same thing and we both write it down. And so the rule is, is that the person that writes down the biggest number gets the house and pays on the basis of the average. So if you owe 120,000, a hundred thousand, then the average is 110, you pay me 55. All right. So, but if you said 120, you said half the house is 60, but you only had to pay 55 for the half of it. So you're ahead. You're ahead. $5,000. Well, how about me? Well, the same thing I said, the house is worth a hundred thousand. I would be happy with 50 and I got 55. But the other, but even more interestingly is, in your estimation, you got more than I do. And my estimation, I got more than you do that's even more, that's that's envy free. Well, the thing is you compute what you got and you got 120,000 minus 55, that's 65,000, but I only got 55. So if you got more than I did when I compute though, but what you got, you got a hundred thousand dollars house and pay 55. So you only got 45. I got 55. So perception is the perception is we're both, then of course, what you'd have to know, whether there's more than two people or other things but you can do things like that. And so I spent a lot of time with, with that. They have a whole award. One of the awards is the A. M. Fink Meritorious Service Award. Awarded to the mediators.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So did this catch on and take off?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] No its never taken on itself? Interesting. When I went to, I had given this to the mediators in the Kansas city area, which includes all the states, contiguous states. And one of them talked to the, the lawyers association until interesting to talk to. First of all, they'll never ask a question. They'll never smile. They'll not react to anything, because they're judges. So a tell joke, nothing happens, You say \"gee, isn't this nice?\" Nothing happens. That's really, you can't judge it, but whether it's getting through or not, well, so I did this. I tell a story. The story is about Barry bonds, 30, 73rd home run in 2000. It was caught by one person. And it was knocked out of his hand and picked up by somebody else. And so there was a lawsuit between them two and you figure out how to take care of that. So that's that. So do you do a particular problem and you can look it up all on the internet. You can look up the case and see what the judge said if you wanted, but it wasn't, it was far from that. They ended up, that the guy that had traded in his seat behind home plate for right field, and then got, got the ball and got it knocked out was a restaurant owner. And so for, for his, for his attempt to get the ball from the guy that ended up with it it only cost him $200,000. You would think that would make, but you see, I tried to try to tell the judge what to do. I said, \"I've got this way to do it.\" And of course, what, you know, this guy from Iowa, what does he know? That's the thing. I spent seven or eight years going to those meetings with mediators before I started talking about anything that I could do. I became part of the wall. People are people on the wall. That's, that's the problem with applied mathematics is that the credibility is, is the problem. It has to be preceded by something that necessarily is not necessarily, is an entirely different question.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Interesting.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I don't know, I'm going off the trail here.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So I mean, looking back, so you really, there's like no singular line through, it's kind of what you're interested in. What comes up?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] No, No, No.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Is that unique in your field or among other colleagues or?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Well, no, no. I'm the only person in the department that did that. There was one other guy, Alex Obgyn. I didn't advertise it. I didn't say look here.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] So you mentioned that you took some computing classes. So how did you apply technology to your work or utilized technology in your work?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I did not utilize it, I learned, I took the coding, of course, which is machine language. That was awful. And the only, that I really learned was basic, which I did small problems with basic, I stayed away from numerical analysis. We were at the front of trying to use television to teach, to teach the lesson back in 1960. The department did, taught some classes by television. Some by large lectures and some by small lectures. And then they, they looked at it the data, the data was, is that the students generally did the same, no matter what you did or who did them. But what changed was the number of people who would take another math course. And the more remote you were, the less likely to take another class, How they vote with their feet and whether it was... It's an interesting thing. I don't think that that was ever written up, but that, I just hated it, the big classes. I just don't think that much happens.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] I know Jim talked a little bit about, you know, the large lectures and the decline in the number of faculty and the strains on teaching. So as a, you know, a member of the department, what was that like?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] What?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] What was it like to try to teach these large lecture classes?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] I avoided it for the most part because the person in charge of assigning classes, the classes light had always those that wanted somebody to put somebody on the board. I would do that for him. So I never done. At Nebraska, I taught a large lecture. Large was 65. And I taught that with overhead projectors. One of the interesting things that happened to me, talking about engineering problems. So one of the neatest applications of three-dimensional calculus , integral calculus is, is computing. Things like centers of mass first moments and second moments which designers were big into first moments. I was talking about about the center of mass and the students look puzzled. So I picked up a chair and balanced it on my chin, which I could do. Okay. So I put it down. And I get a standing ovation, at the end of the class, at the end of the class, one of the students came up and he said, he wants to see me do it again. He thought it was an accident, But I did. Whenever I taught that class, I did that. That was one of the things that I did application and talk about how it's easier to do a broom and a bat.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Are there any, is there a book or a publication you're most proud of and why?\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Actually, I've talked to Jim Cornet about this. But there are four , for papers, my publication list, which are book reviews. Now, these are book reviews that were the, the journal asked me to review. It's not that I do. And then they give you instructions. So there's two of these journals. One is the, Billson of the math society. And the other one is the Cyan Revue. Society for industrial and applied mathematics review , and their instructions are, that this book review is not a book review. Not an essay about the book. It's about the field. And so you're expected to, to say, where the field is, with respect to this. What that means is, That they think you're an expert. So there are the four, four of those, things, that people have recognized, not anybody into the department here. Which is, it's sort of interesting. You get, I've gotten more positive feedback about my work from places like Minnesota and Minnesota and Missouri and university of Ohio than I ever do at Iowa state.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Why do you think that is? Just different research interests or.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] Who knows?\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Professor Fink] And that's how I don't lose any sleep over it.\r\n\r\n- [Daniel Hartwig] Okay. 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Wilson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6787.31,6792.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there are three of us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6792.18,6793.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and yeah so, you know, I don't know what, why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6795.87,6800.373"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that's I think that's partly the reversal, I must say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6801.866,6806.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Most Math departments that I know about that, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6806.78,6809.983"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e I know I've heard that if you have a facility for music,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6812.32,6816.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"often have success in mathematics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6816.6,6819.763"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's Maths and if you want to be a wonder kent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6821.74,6826.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's either music or mathematics,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6828.4,6830.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's ideally the choices you have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6830.17,6832.218"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughing loudly)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6832.218,6835.051"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, (chuckles) I guess other, I mean, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6840.83,6843.698"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's really true.\nIt is, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6843.698,6846.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the only, two things that you can do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6846.48,6848.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e There are universal languages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6848.69,6850.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6850.64,6851.473"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6855.91,6857.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anything else you'd like to add?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6857.34,6858.784"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughing loudly)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6858.784,6859.617"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e No.\nThat's a nice one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6859.617,6860.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to leave on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6860.45,6861.283"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, A. M. it's been a pleasure, I thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6861.283,6862.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we'll be in touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6862.82,6864.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458#t=6864.99,6865.823"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34896/annotation/1876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/896/original/Fink_02_2021-07-07.vtt?1639684000","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/896/original/Fink_02_2021-07-07.vtt?1639684000"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34897","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131458/transcript/34897/annotation/1877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- This is Daniel Hartwick an interviewer for the Iowa State University, Special Collections in University Archives, Department of Mathematics Oral History project, today is July 7th, 2021, I'm interviewing Professor A. M. Fink as part of Part Two. Good morning Professor Fink.\r\n\r\n- Morning.\r\n\r\n- All right, so last time I believe we finished talking about your research, so let's pick up today talking about some of your consulting work and other time away from ISU, so did you do any consulting for outside firms?\r\n\r\n- No, I didn't never specifically not, although individuals have come to me for help on many occasions actually, which I've never documented. Certain classes were being taught over in Engineering school, I could always tell when the classes caught, because suddenly there would be a stream of students coming in there and I was supposed to explain to them what their instructor was trying to say. Which is sort of peculiar but yeah, and I've had students come in with questions. One guy from, who was working for Cargill and basically the idea was, is that Cargill sold feed for hogs and cattle and they would make up their feed to the special specifications of certain amounts with one third this and one third of that and the question was how to do that. And part of the problem was, is that Cargill taught what language, farmers, a different language.\r\n\r\n- Yep.\r\n\r\n- So you had to translate and so, he comes down and so we went over to the Union and I brought him coffee and by the time we drank the coffee we had extreme .\r\n\r\n- That was an easy one.\r\n\r\n- How to do , you know. Yeah, so that's the only really specific thing I did as a faculty member. Of course, but I was doing essentially coding work at Mathematica when I was there but.\r\n\r\n- So talk a little bit about your faculty improvement leave and some of the work you did and any lasting effects or connections to from those times.\r\n\r\n- Well, all right, I applied for a faculty improvement leave and I was granted it, but I didn't take it.\r\n\r\n- Why not?\r\n\r\n- Well that, what I had proposed was to go to University of Wisconsin and my wife was interested in doing graduate school studies And she didn't want to go to the Wisconsin, she wanted to go to Minnesota. So instead of taking that faculty improvement leave I got a one year appointment at University of Minnesota and so as a regular faculty member I participated in the usual events that the department was, and I, as part of a result of that, I started to do work with one of the professors there and we wrote three or four joint papers over the years. And the second year that we were there, we were there for two years. The second year I taught in the night school, which was extension. So I taught and like, Geometry and Trigonometry. And so it's sort of interesting that something happened there that never happened before, I was teaching Trig and there was this older fellow, he must've been over 45 , he was taking Trig and he got, he was getting everything right and then he came to the final and said to me, he slept up a little bit and I took two points off and because of that, he was gonna take it over again. He vowed that he was gonna get it perfect or else he's not gonna go on and he was scooping dirt for the State, for the streets of Minneapolis on his regular time. And so, it's the first time I'd ever taught, you know, people that were in that street, you know, that, well, Night School. So that was a little different, you know.\r\n\r\n- You also spent time at the University of Colorado in 1969 and 70, so talk a little bit about that work.\r\n\r\n- Well, actually, that was interesting because I had gone to University of Nebraska because my friend Gary Meisters was there and by the time I got to Nebraska, he had gone to Colorado. And so he, so also in the first year I was at Iowa State, when was it, it might have been? Yeah, the second year, I got this, Gary was wanting me to come, when we, he wanted to work on something with me, so I agreed to go and give a talk to the department. So I gave a talk to the department. The head of the department was a very famous mathematician. Stanislaw Ulam.\r\n\r\n- Oh, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and he was sitting in the front row and apparently sleeping. But at the end of my talk, he asked a question and it was right on. And so he asked after the question was prepared, he asked me to come to his office. So I went to his office and then he sat me down and he said, \"Which would you rather do? \"Be an assistant, a visitor for a year \"or would you like to come to the University of Colorado?\" I didn't know I was on a recruiting trip . But I just, at the moment I said, well, I'd never been in the Iowa State just a year or so and went, so I said, I'd go with it. So, I did accept the visiting position for the year and Gary and I, we just wrote one paper together. And, but Stanislaw's office was right across the hall, so I got to know him quite well. So he was a very vain man. He couldn't see , he couldn't see across the room, but he refused to wear glasses because as he said he was, he wasn't as good looking with them. And Gary and his wife invited us over for a dinner party with Ulam, so it was Ulam and one of the things that Gary was doing was collecting a photo gallery of famous mathematicians and then so he show, he had slides and he was showing this , at the end of it, there was no slide of Ulam. So Stanislaw was , yeah, he acted like he was really hurt but then Gary pointed out, you have to notice, you have, you shouldn't notice something about them all, you have to be dead to be , these are living men not living .\r\n\r\n- That's good.\r\n\r\n- So, yeah and at the other one legend that I saw, they're pretty interesting people I got to know, and there were good friends including some Quakers, but then Erdos showed up, Paul Erdos, do you know, about him? He showed up, it was Number Theory Year at Colorado. and so they had a bunch of visitors in Number Theory from great Britain and whatever and Paul Erdos was there, I think for six weeks and he used Ulam's office and so I got to know Erdos there too and I worked on a problem with Erdos. But we never finished it and he finished it with somebody else and published it, never put my name on it. So I, my Erdos number is three, it should be one.\r\n\r\n- So, did you ever seriously consider staying at Colorado or going back at some time?\r\n\r\n- No, I didn't like it. My wife didn't like it either. Boulder was not a good, interesting town, but maybe as interesting as it was the only time I've lived close to one of my relatives, my brother who was in Denver. He was just in Denver for a couple of years. He was a Lutheran minister and as they do, they hopped around a lot so, you know.\r\n\r\n- So, you came back.\r\n\r\n- But that, then, yeah, I've kept in touch with some of the people that I think, my sisters went back to Nebraska, it turns out there were two of them. And so, I went back to Nebraska quite often to give talks to the department. I guess there was one I gave, the Carcher Lectures at the University of Oklahoma, that was an endowed speaker program. And when I was there, I also wrote a paper on it and that, and then that University of Missouri, I was called in on, I was an external examiner for hiring of an endowed chair. So, I guess that would count as a consultation.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so that was nice and I was able to go down there and help them pick up an endowed chair . And at University of Iowa I would, actually, I lived at the Statistics department as often as I was at the Math department. There were some people in the Statistics department, they were doing some things like I was doing and then so, you know, and I didn't, and I guess it was probably unusual too, that as I stayed here, I attended all the statistics department colloquium. They had a regular and I, and at least two papers I got out of that, doing things. And I, so I was, I knew most of the statisticians and talked to them about some of my work.\r\n\r\n- And did you collaborate with them on a research paper?\r\n\r\n- No, I never collaborated. One of 'em was sort of interested. One was Newell Cressy, who was probably the best mathematician they, the best statistician they had on for awhile. He left angrily. But he had been a student of Tukey's at Princeton University and graduate and he was originally from South Africa. And he had done some work with the gold miners. And so, the statistical problem was, is that you got these big trucks that, you know, several tons of earth and they would come and then assess this, would go in and pick out a cup full and then they would see how much gold was in there. And then of course, what they had was a grid where they knew the location of where this truck came from. And so as you had the, you had this grid and for each grid, you had a number, which is the gold that they found the last time and the idea was is that you assumed that if you had a square surrounded by four squares, that they were somehow related, but there's not, there was we weren't independent sort of things. So the question was where you could take, and you could be, if you've got a nugget, if you found a real nugget that would throw off, you probably, that would probably be an outlier, you probably didn't want to pay much attention. So that's just a really nice statistical problem that had geometry and so what they used, the Tukey had an algorithm. So it was, what did they call it? I forget what they call it. But anyway, what you did was you had this array of numbers, or one of the geometry, so you go along a row, you would subtract the mean, median, something like that, you subtract the median so that you would center it around zero, so zero is the middle. And it's, so that and then they call them median Polish, is what they call it, and you do it to a row, then you would do it for a column, and that would undo some of the rows. So you'd go out and do the rows again, then the columns and then the rows, and then he said, and then they would, at some point would stop, then when you would, you stop. Well, then they got tired of it. Well you know, it seemed very peculiar, you know, come on, this is supposed to be scientific.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And so, the problem is what are you doing?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- What is this subtracting median? What is that really doing? Well, I discovered what it was doing, it was a minimum problem and the speedy and Polish was a decent algorithm. But interestingly enough, it didn't solve the problem, That approximation problem minimizing it didn't you had to, and so I wrote the paper, which showed that, and discovered a couple of algorithms that you could use to actually do it and so it was, and actually, somebody, some math statistician from the University of Montana, let me know once, that they in fact had written a program and you actually put it on a computer, they said so.\r\n\r\n- And did that ever get applied to actual mining?\r\n\r\n- I don't know and I doubt it. Yeah, there's a. So not across he left because of the, what department? One of the dissociative science departments. I think it might've been History. A black student from Waterloo was in there and got mad at the instructor and threatened her, threatened to kill her. And so the instructor of course, went to the administration and they didn't do anything about it. She had to hire her own lawyer and there was a big to-do about it and low across you, just upped and left 'cause, you know, some of that where the administration doesn't back up your faculty. There was, it's just not a place he wants to be, so he left.\r\n\r\n- So let's talk a little bit about university and professional service. So what committees or task forces did you serve on here at Iowa state?\r\n\r\n- I, mostly departmental things. I was a Graduate coordinator, so I was working with the Graduate office. Oh, it was a lot making out PR things for the department and for, at one point when we tried it, Graduate Dean wanted to start a program in Applied Mathematics. Well, he was a physicist and so what happened is of is course to him, Applied Mathematics was something that he'd studied as and which is very narrow and so he's got to give, he's gonna hire a secretary that'll help me recruit people to his program. A program where, which we can be entered in a interdisciplinary that every student that came in would be assigned working with somebody in a different department. And so we, so I spent a lot of time making up the materials and getting them printed and after a month he took away my secretary. And I finally recruited one student, and who never turned out, never got a degree. So that was an important attempt, yeah. And I didn't, you know, the other thing I did, is the Engineering depart--, various engineering departments, mostly Electrical and Aeronautical Engineering and Mechanics department had a seminar on Control Theory, which I attended and gave talks about some of my work, which is, which was in Control Theory. And I actually, one of my PhD students was working on his thesis while I was at Minnesota and so he had Bland Pearson of Aeronautical Engineering was also on his committee and was really more, worked more for his problems, so he did the same plane problem for his thesis, so, yeah. And there's several times that I was brought in to an engineering department, PhD thesis defense on the grounds that they didn't know the mathematics, that I was supposed to be their mathematics person. So they would go in there and then I would listened to them and then I'd say, is it a thesis? And I was supposed to solely decide whether it was a thesis or not. So I basically told them, \"Well, if you can find something \"that you think that you can compute \"that you're interested in, \"then it's a thesis, if you can't, it isn't.\" And so then I went away and, but yeah.\r\n\r\n- What kind of professional collaborations beyond Iowa state were important to you and your work?\r\n\r\n- Well I, some of these words were, would be extensions to things that I did, you know, so we got with a variety of people. So there were some people at University of Iowa that I wrote several papers with. And there was a Japanese, I wrote some papers with a Japanese person who was here, actually visiting somebody else, but that didn't work out at all and so we got the, we wrote a couple of papers together. And then, so then the real, quite a lot of people in Europe that I wrote and a Hungarian and a Romanian and a Bulgarian, yeah, Croatian, Serb are all people that have.\r\n\r\n- International, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, that I wrote papers with. And then of course, other than the people and University of Iowa, there are people that are from Chile and Mexico originally. And then the reason I came here, George Seifert was here and I wrote several papers with George. He's the one that recruited me to come here and.\r\n\r\n- And did you serve on any professional committees or?\r\n\r\n- Well, I was on for the Maths Association of America had a magazine they put out for, what can you do when you were with a math major? And I was on the committee to write that.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- So, I did that. Well, there was various speaker programs that the Maths Association of America had on and I did that. So I was, then I also served as Governor of the Iowa section of the MAA and also as chair of that Iowa section both at two different times. And then the, you know, my work with the mediators, you know, Iowa Association of Mediators. I was, I gave talks, variety of talks to them and was asked to give them in Missouri and at St. Mary's and, Rapids because I had a night class that was doing mediation classes and I would go in and lecture there, so.\r\n\r\n- So let's talk a little bit about history and road events. So coming here in the 60s and early 70s, what was the climate like as an instructor and as a community member at the time?\r\n\r\n- Well, the early 60s was a time when there was a shortage of PhDs in Mathematics and so sometimes the higher you were, you were clearly not gonna make it, so we went, lot of people came through and stayed a year and then two and then left. The idea that, well, what happened when I was hired as a research professor, it turns out that there was certain amount of money that the Dean had, the Arts and Science college and they would, there were, I think, five positions in the Math department that would be paid that, and then you would get off teaching for one quarter and we were on the quarter system, so I was hired as one of those. And at some point the Dean stopped giving up the money, just, I don't know, should, I think shenanigans, I think that they got that money that supported that program and I think that that should have been continued and it wasn't. So the Dean took it away and we all, we had to fight for, the department had to fight for enough people to teach all the classes. And we eventually we had teams coming from outside, which would look at the department and evaluate it for the Dean. And so then they all said that, well, you know, we needed more people. So at one point then, we had the yes, yes, it was the Board of Regions hadn't made it, that the mathematics had priority, you could find new positions. And so that's the, this is before Jisky came and so Jisky, he said, since it as, as provost to give a talk, so he comes to the department for, and tells us all, and he says, he understands that the morale is low, but, and then, so that's the first thing. The second thing is he's got to take away 5% of our budget and we have to fight for it to get it back.\r\n\r\n- Did that go over well?\r\n\r\n- Like a lead balloon? Yeah, but that our department was mentioned in those battles for many, many years and now if you go over and you look at the pictures of the professors, you know, the third of the professors are teaching professor and not, they're not real mathematicians. And, but yet they treat it as a cash cow, so the way the budgets for a little college is still drawn is that it's proportional to a hundred students, except for the math department, there was the special formula was that doesn't count, or it has to, you know, the ratio is doubled or tripled or something. Yeah, so you keep fighting and yet they want us to be nationally known.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well that and those two things just, they don't go together at all, you know, if you spend your time teaching, you can get, you don't hire a lot of people, you hire people that are just gonna teach and they're not gonna do anything. And I mean, there's nothing wrong with teachers, I mean, with them teaching, but if you're wanting one out a department and you have to find it that way, you can't ask three things and only fund one.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Well, can you talk about that balance between, you know, research for thought Math instruction, and then?\r\n\r\n- Well and yeah, so that we can't, when I came back from Nebraska, Barnes was the head of the department, and he was an ex Marine or something as a Colonel in the army and so his idea was, is that you can win points by not asking for things, make things to do with what you have. And so, at the beginning of the year we would have a meeting and then he would tell us how many pieces of paper that we could use. Things like that, I think silly, silly stuff.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And in the meantime, our faculty salaries were we're lagging, the graduate students stipends we're lagging behind everybody else, we had a hard time getting somebody.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And so that's, and then you argue with, you know. But we had teams that came from outside to evaluate the department. Almost all of them said that the teaching that we did, we did well, they were satisfied with the teaching. The engineering school was satisfied with our teaching. So, although I just couldn't see how you could teach 200 people at a time, and now they do 300.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So, and I stayed away from university committees. I, every year, that they would come out and say, \"What committee are you on?\" And I would say the Athletic committee. About every year, I would ask for it and I never got it.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- So, and then there was one time I was put on a committee, it was to hire a Dean and so there was and for some reason, other, there was a committee that was assigned from the sciences to get to hire a Dean and there was an uproar firstly from the History department and Sociology department and stuff that, that committee wasn't gonna really do a good job. So they wanted a committee to oversee the committee. And it was the stupidest thing and I was, and it, every department was supposed to put a part and so I volunteered to be on that committee.\r\n\r\n- The overseeing committee?\r\n\r\n- The overseeing committee. And so, Albert Walker was the head of that committee, was the head of the English department at the time and so we called the committee to order and I raised my hand and I said, I would like to make a motion. And he says, \"Yeah,\" I make a motion that this committee be disbanded.\r\n\r\n- Was there a second?\r\n\r\n- No, it really riled Albert. He said that whether you, that I couldn't possibly be acting for the Math department, in fact, I was. So that's all, you know, but we, in math department always had way too many people doing committee work. A matter of fact, there was, there's a lot of pushback from other departments that we had too many people on the committee.\r\n\r\n- And why was that?\r\n\r\n- There was not really any shortage.\r\n\r\n- So why that, what accounted for that?\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean, we had a lot of people that as I said, weren't doing research, they were pushed to do something, so that is something that they could do, so they went to volunteer for committees and so. Well, that didn't just, some people that were, took it seriously. Cornel liked being on departments, but he came from his, his father was the President of the college, so he had a different perspective.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- For most of us, that were trying to do research, that committee work was a distraction and it wasn't very valuable. I have, I had noticed something when growing up and that continued all the way through my career is that when I was put on a committee, I was always made the chair.\r\n\r\n- Why do you think that was?\r\n\r\n- Because I knew how to be a chair. So we would do, we would leave an hour for a talk, for a committee and most committees lasted an hour and a quarter, except when I was chair and they lasted for a half hour. So, yeah, so I knew how to do that. Well, what do you do if you look at the agenda and you say, \"Now, who's interested, \"who on the committee is interested in that? \"All right, Mike is interested in,\" I go to Mike and say, \"Have a plan. \"This is what the question, have a plan,\" and I would go to somebody else, \"Have a plan for this,\" and then we would have two plans and then immediately they would go together and be done, yeah. You weren't starting from scratch.\r\n\r\n- That's good.\r\n\r\n- And, yeah and so, yeah, so I was on a lot of committees and I, in the department and I always chaired, and.\r\n\r\n- So circling back to the, so the 60s and 70s. So talk about a little more of the external events in terms of culture, the Vietnam war, et cetera. So what were some of the effects that, you know, the outside world, you know, experienced, or United States experienced.\r\n\r\n- Wow, I don't see, that in terms of the mathematics or the teaching that we did much, anybody did much with the Vietnam war. I did a lot of time outside. My wife and I stood on the corner of Welsh and Lincoln way on Wednesdays at 5:00 o'clock for an hour, for about 10 years for the Iraq wars. And we, there were a variety of students that we got to know that way and there's a few faculty, which would show up occasionally, not regularly, we were the only faculty member that were regularly. So, I, the other thing was the viscous riots, I always thought those were police riots and not student riots, but.\r\n\r\n- So the non-violent protest though, were those kind of just started on your own or ?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, we just had signs and we would be right outside, it's not the whole room. People would go by and honk their horns and give their thumbs up and other people would open the windows and shout in the rear and say, \"Merry Christmas.\" Yeah, no, we never got into any arguments, no, we would, if someone wanted to talk, we would talk with them, but we wouldn't yell at 'em or, and you know . So, yeah, so I don't know, we never, students, as far as I know, the students never asked for help, if that they are interested in being conscientious objectors or going into Canada or something like that. I don't, I think that this is a very conservative campus and so there wasn't much of that through the University of Iowa and there's a lot of that, whereas an example, but no, it, the, this is a conservative, very conservative place. So, I don't think that there is much reaction to the, as I should have been to the Iraq wars and.\r\n\r\n- So how would you say ISU as a whole changed during your time here and how do you feel about those changes?\r\n\r\n- Well, let's see. Well, it is, I don't see that it's changed a lot. I said, I think I don't like the current president at all.\r\n\r\n- Why not?\r\n\r\n- Well, one of the people that our family is interested in who was the, what is it called? A program Ag program, Kirschman and was the chair.\r\n\r\n- What was it, Leopold Center?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, the Leopold center.\r\n\r\n- Yep, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so he was forced up by the current president of the college, under pressure from pork producers.\r\n\r\n- Exactly.\r\n\r\n- So that's still there, the only marginal thing is still there. And I, the Board of Regents has been I think, terrible. They don't know anything about ethics at all and a good family friend was, it was on the board, Owen Newton, I don't know if you, you know, he just died a couple years ago, but he was president of the Board of Regents for quite a few years and they did, they encouraged, they took WOI away from the university, that was purely politics. The people, they were, your wild graduates and they couldn't stand the Iowa State being ahead of the University of Iowa and so they made 'em sell, you know, WOI. It was a terrible decision, but that's, I, you expect and the engineering faculties to be conservative and they are, for the most part. If he, it was interesting, we would, we, my wife and I took advantage of the, a lot of the talks that were done by the evening programs, paid for by the students in some cases and you would look around and then you would see who was there and it would, the faculty would be physics and mathematics, nobody else.\r\n\r\n- Why so, why do you think that?\r\n\r\n- Well, you know, they'd be, they would have something that we'd be interested in as anthropologists, so, you would think the arbitrary, no, they aren't there. It seems that that is very undercurrent of an intellectual and I, that's still there, that hasn't changed. I don't think.\r\n\r\n- So, how do you think ISU is different from other universities or peer institutions and what are some of the reasons for that?\r\n\r\n- Well, that's the big one, that's for , yeah. Well, I'm not sure, you know, I liked the treatment of the Math department here, is completely different than the peers, I mean, for example, when they did this study, before we got the five people and the other thing, they, that, they had the University of Illinois do this study and they discovered that one thing is that with the Math department had taught twice as many hours as it's typical at the University of Iowa. And in addition to the University of Iowa, paper grading was all done by graduate students, hired, they hired graduate students, that never happened here, yeah. So the university, I taught at Minnesota, and the same thing, you know, you had, if you had a lot of students, you had to pay for grader. And so, while I never minded grading my own paper, but it was time. So, yeah, I think that there's no way, are we up to what they, the peer institutions, which would be Nebraska and Nebra--, Illinois, I don't think that they call it Minnesota, Minnesota is too much. Oh, I suppose the Oklahoma universities but, you know. No, it's still not up to snuff. I think that there are some individuals now, and at least our department, Math department that are pretty decent people but if you look into my history, you'll see a piece of the people that went. There's a list of people that were very good, that went. So we, so David McLauchlan, we had him here, we let him go, he ended up being a member of the Academy of Sciences, which is beyond anybody else that we've ever had and that's an example, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well, what might you recommend going forward? So what can the department, or can they do, or is this, I assume.\r\n\r\n- I know, I don't see that there's going anywhere, particularly, yeah. Well as your big, it's interesting because that the way people look at the, our college, our liberal arts college is that there's only three departments that have any power, the Chemistry, Physics and Statistics. Well, the Physics and Chemistry department maybe have, the Statistics doesn't. I, that shouldn't, that's not to be published but my way over is they had one good person, George Steadier and he was in the Math department. And at anybody else, that was any good, they said that they've, so any number of people that started, that had real good statisticians, they immediately left, at first opportunity would leave, so.\r\n\r\n- It's on the other hand.\r\n\r\n- Things don't change.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Don't change.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but what were some of your positive or outstanding experiences at ISU?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that I'm satisfied that the classes I taught were, they were good. I never, there were supposed to get evaluations for classes and there was a 12 question questionnaire and, but nobody paid any attention to one through 11, They were the ones, as I said, well, was the work homework proper? Was it graded proper? Was exams, did they? You know, they said, and then instructor grade, all right, see. So, you would look at those and you would get A's on the one through 11 and get the F on, for 12. Yeah, and just rand--, right, obviously just random.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So I, what I would do is I made up my own and I specifically, since I graded papers every day, was that, do you think that was appropriate, or do you like that or not? Or I, every class I started by asking questions, what were you supposed to have learned? Tell me, what you were supposed to have learned. Was that appropriate? So it says that, so I made up my own program. And so I would get reasonable evaluations compared to courses nobody else paid attention to. But and of course in the events you run into people, so I'm sitting over watching the women play basketball and there's seats next to us that some faculty, people have I have, but they don't use them myself, but they have variety of people that come in and sit down and so a person sits down, he says, \"Well, I had Calculus with you 25 years ago, \"you probably don't remember me, but I remember you.\" And he said, what did he say? That he would say, well, one guy said, \"You taught me how to learn on a technical subject,\" all right, so, and then on the other hand, I am with mediators in public schools of some of the people that have advisers and their public schools came, one of them said, \"You taught me that calculus wasn't for me, thank you, \"I was, I studied, I've been, I had a marvelous career \"as an advisor, I mean, you set me up, all right.\" That's the kind of thing you get, yeah, so.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it's good too, yeah And Sam Abel, I don't know, if you know, Sam Abel?\r\n\r\n- I don't think so, I don't.\r\n\r\n- He is, he does a lot of online classes and is a photographer and a singer. Well, he was in my class and so I see Sam around, and you know, he always says, \"Oh, I was in your 308 class \"and I remember the part,\" probably what we worked on, so, you know, you're occasionally, you get something, some feedback. And then I guess the one time that they had, maybe I already said, told you about this student that said that I was a memorable professor and my class is memorable, the only time anybody they've ever said anything, so yeah, that's the feedback. And going to mass meetings, I would, it was mostly the people that I taught at Nebraska that would show up and thank me for the classes that I taught to them. I didn't do very many graduate classes here at all, so.\r\n\r\n- Is there a place on campus that is especially meaningful to you and if so, why?\r\n\r\n- Well, I used to a lot, like what the Union looked like 20 years ago, I don't like it the way it looks now . It had all the wooden chairs and all wooden tables and coffee room where you could get a little coffee without going through, yeah, and that was one. The first class that I taught at Iowa State was College Algebra and graduate students and there was a black kid and the kid Morris Langston was his name, a black kid from Maryland, Berlin, Maryland. He was, came here to run track, he was dash, a sprinter and he was in my class and it was absolutely apparent that there was no way that he was gonna pass College Algebra. I mean, he couldn't do six , he couldn't add two fractions. And then, so he came to me, I had an hour, an office hour every day that I would, I would say I would be there and other times he would be able to catch me . He came every day and worked and he's the only one that ever came. And so for a quarter, I tried to get him up to speed and I gave him an in the end he got an F and he was cheerful about it, he knew it, that he couldn't. And so he got, had to take it again and he was also an Air Force ROTC and he'd mentioned that he needed to know some mathematics, to me and you know, you can't fly an airplane without knowing some mathematics. Well, so I would meet him on campus and he would, has this big smile for me and he would say, hello and, you know, that I led to him graduating and then about 15 years later, it was in June during Alumni day, I was teaching a summer class and I went over to have a cup of coffee and so from across the big Union, here comes this guy in Air Force uniform, gives me a big hug and I never thought that he would make it, I never thought he would make it.\r\n\r\n- Hard work, yeah.\r\n\r\n- But eventually he did, so I think probably the Air Force ROTC program had a tutorship program that helped him, that wasn't just me, yeah, so, yeah. So there are some wins.\r\n\r\n- It's a good story.\r\n\r\n- But no, ordinarily, you know, people knew you don't get thank you's from anybody. I, well, one time I did, I was at the San Diego Zoo and I just, some kid comes up and he says, \"Hey, professor Fink, \"I took Differential Equations from you.\" I said, \"Well, do you use it?\" He says, \"Yeah, I use it every day.\"\r\n\r\n- Oh, great, okay.\r\n\r\n- So like that, but that's few and far between, I think that.\r\n\r\n- Well, so in 1993, you were awarded the citation for distinguished service. So talk a little bit about receiving that honor and how did it impact your career.\r\n\r\n- Well, it didn't impact my career much at all.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- That was the, for the MAA, yeah, so yeah. Well, I was that's the thing is the MAA is sort of it, my most mathematicians is something for four year college, student or high school instructors and to look down on it and I never thought about that and so I was one of the few people that from Iowa State that would go to, there was Jim Peak and Elle Heckenbach were two people that did, they were both treasures of the section and then I was, as I said, I was governor of the section about to be president of the section and I, so I knew the people in the current four year colleges in Iowa and close by. I knew those people from attending those meetings and I gave a lot to recruiting thoughts. But so, and so as result of that, I think I went, when there would be initiations to mass clubs probably Epsilon and so forth, I would do those talks for 'em and so that was, you know, that was the source of that. So I was around, I was a part of the furniture, oh yeah. So it just, I think I got a lot of students to come because of that. And you know, for four year colleges, the kids don't know what they want or need to go, you recruit the faculty, so they, so that, yeah, so. But I'm otherwise nothing much made about that, like, you don't get a raise in salary or anything like that, but.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. So what interests outside of your field were significant to you over the years?\r\n\r\n- Well, that's tough on mediation. I spent 15 years on that, I spent a lot of time. I did give high school talks too, to talk to high schools.\r\n\r\n- Talk a little bit about the society of friends, but how important or significant was that?\r\n\r\n- Well, yeah, as a matter of fact the sto--, yeah, the joke is that so few of us, that we want, we know all everybody as is, and yeah, almost every Maths department that I've ever been at has had at least one member of the society of friends. Normally people don't make, friends don't make a big deal about that. Some are controversial if you. I was outed to the whole university, a very peculiar way with students, the students that had heard about the society of friends, joined it, it came, okay, started in September and found us and came and decided there were too few of us, that he wanted. So on his own thought, without asking anybody, he hired, he asked a photographer and a journalist from the Iowa State Daily to come to one of our meetings and took pictures of us. And at that time we were doing, we had side meetings on Sunday, we had meetings on Tuesday night, midweek meetings at our house and what, we would start at 5:00 o'clock, 5:30. So we had up to 20 people that would come and we could, we would have 20 minutes of worship and then we would have a potluck and we would have a discussion about something, discussion topics and so that was on Tuesdays when we had to do departmental colloquium at 4:00. So I would go regular to 4:00 or 5:00. So the first person who came would set the chairs, well, our door, back door was unlocked, and as soon as the first person sat down, the meeting started, we wouldn't talk, just started to sit up. Well, so I get home, I and a little bit earlier at the time or the first one there, and you're settling, sitting down, a young woman sitting in a chair in the living room. And so she, so I just started setting the kitchen chairs out and start setting them up so I can put them in the living room. She sort of looked at me, so I asked her, well, she said that this guy had come and a photographer was coming and I said, well, it it's a photographer, then, he'll not have to take the pictures. I can't give you permission and if you ask permission on the group, they will say, no. You can take a picture afterwards but not that during our meeting. I said , I said, that's all we did, we had the meeting and so then I said to the journalist, at the end, I said, \"You probably should interview somebody else \"beside that person that asked you \"because he's a new person who doesn't know much.\"\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And so she interviewed me and they took a picture of me and it was a foot of a half page, half page story was a big picture of me, and so I was out of it as a friend and I, some people in the departments that's significant, it was significant to. So, I had a friend Wally that went from here to the University of Connecticut. He was one of the people that was really, really good, but he wasn't paid properly and taken care of properly. So he went to University of Connecticut and so Woolcock was also was thinking about going to Connecticut. So he went for an interview. And so he was walking across campus with Wally and McKenna Jim, Jim McKenna, and McKenna, the person that had, we had corresponded with each other about our mathematics, we were doing same sorts of things and so we hadn't ever, never met per person. So he asked Woolcock well, you know, what do you know? Tell me about AM. And so, first thing Woolcock says was he's a Quaker and the second thing that James said is, \"So am I.\"\r\n\r\n- Oh yeah.\r\n\r\n- So somehow, whatever that says, but.\r\n\r\n- It's all worked out\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so.\r\n\r\n- But that, but the, yeah, some very famous mathematicians had been Quakers and.\r\n\r\n- Why do you think that is?\r\n\r\n- Well, it's not dogmatic, it's, you know, you have to do it yourself, religion and I said, that's the mass psyche too, yeah and.\r\n\r\n- So you've talked, well, I guess talk a little bit about your family, family life, and you know, how your personal and family life impacted each other here at ISU.\r\n\r\n- Well okay, so we had two sons, my wife has a PhD in Anthropology and you know, my two sons, one has a PhD in Computer Science, the other in Biomechanics. So we're, so the two of them are home for Christmas, and we get a telephone call and it's a student who wants to speak to Professor, Dr. Fink.\r\n\r\n- Which one ?\r\n\r\n- So Phillip, hands me the telephone, he says, \"Speaking.\" So the student starts to ask questions and then figures out it's not the right one.\r\n\r\n- Yeah .\r\n\r\n- So put's his mother on , and so the student figures out, I don't want that one or Caleb.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so we have a little fun like that, yeah, so yeah, they did not go to high school in AMC, they went to boarding school, Quaker Boarding School. My oldest son didn't graduate from high school. He went from sophomore college into college and he, quite bright and he's got a Computer Science and he went with, through a school called Bard, there's Bard College at Simon's Rock College and Bard is of Massachusetts. It's for early entry, the average entry is 16 year olds.\r\n\r\n- Oh wow, I've never heard of it.\r\n\r\n- Yeah and that's the campus of Bard College and if you go there, you can get an Arts degree and then you have entry into Bard College automatically, if you want to. So my son went there and he plays the violin, so he did the violin while in there playing music and he took all the math and computer science courses that they had. He had taken Calculus as a sophomore in high school by mail from University of Iowa. And so he, instead of going to Bard he went to Wisconsin. And the conservator of music but never took any music classes, but it was the way to get into that university. So he got a double major in Computer Science and Mathematics, and then went to Davidson. He's been working, he's one of the developers of Java.\r\n\r\n- Oh wow, okay.\r\n\r\n- So, as a graduate student, he was supported by Sun and worked on doing Java. And so when he graduated, he had an automatic job at the time. He was your troubleshooters, he would go around the world beginning. And then Sun was one that's big lawsuit against Microsoft, you know, and that's the same time, got a new chairman of the board who fired all of their old people. So, my son got fired because he was there five years. And he said they left nobody that knew anything. The only person, people that were left, well, they got revenge on 'em because, you know, like three years ago, Oracle bought Sun.\r\n\r\n- Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n- My son was then working for Oracle.\r\n\r\n- That's karma.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. So, he's worked for Google, he's worked for Sun, he's now working for a company called Indeed, which is, they hire people.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n- You know, hiring people, so he does it, so that is his current job is, and he works, he lives in San Mateo and he has a couple of grandchildren who are 19 and 16 or 17, I think it's 17 and the 19 year old is, he'll be a junior in college next year, he's also ahead of his time. And then my other son is, was, he loved basketball and so his, he, if you would ask him in eighth grade, \"What do you want to be?\" And he says, \"I want to be a coach of an NBA team,\" you know, 15 people in the world are doing that . Well, anyways, so he went to Scattergood and has super energy, he can't sit long. So, he's got his basketball and it turns out he could shoot the lights out. So he, so as a matter of fact, when he was a graduate student at Purdue, there were some NBA people from Purdue that he would, they played hard, so he still held his own. Yeah, so it was, but problem was, he had 70 year old knees. So he couldn't play a game and then do anything the next day.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So yeah, and he is all, he has a photographic memory and loves the piano, plays the piano. And so he decided since he wants you to be a coach, he studied up on sports and leisure studies programs, or and discovered that the best one in the United States was at UCONN.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- So, he got into UCONN and then became the student manager of the Women's Basketball team. And so then he, I didn't, so then I told him, when he went there, I told him, \"Look, you know, Calculate, \"you know, Trig and an analytic job, you know that, \"you got to take Calculus.\" Well, of course they go and look and , watching leisure programming and the University of Connecticut is one of these places where, you know, 80% of the engineers end up being Business majors and so, no way they'll let him take Calculus. So he took to dumb, dumb, no, but then he took Biomechanics as a junior and that's what he wants to do. Well, that is Calculus study so that he got all A's in Calculus and all his friends were amazed . So then he took, then so, he won some awards for being the best student in the state of Connecticut or something, I don't know but hey, he got a degree in Teaching. But then he went to Purdue as grad school and then he did, I would guess 14 years of post-docs? They started at Florida Atlantic University, which is a new university in Boca Raton, Florida and it does the center for the study of complex systems is an amalgam of mathematics and physics and statistics and biomechanics.\r\n\r\n- Interesting.\r\n\r\n- And he did it, he worked there for five years and the head of the dep--, the institute got in a squabble with the deans of the colleges and so the center closed.\r\n\r\n- Oh, that's serious.\r\n\r\n- So for, and so he went to San Francisco state for a year. I went down and we, I drove, helped drive his truck, with all his stuff across the country for one year and then he was at Brown University for three years and I took, helped drive the truck from San Francisco to Brown. He was in charge of the virtual reality labs there.\r\n\r\n- Oh cool, okay.\r\n\r\n- And one of the studies that he did was if you're playing baseball and somebody hits you a pop fly, how do you know where to stand, to catch the ball? What data do you need? What do you use? There were three series about that. And that's sort of baseball, people set to do, let's say, well, a good outfielder just takes one look and they're even running over there. But no, that's not true, it's not true. And so he did this virtual lab. He, so he put them on the moon. He, basically members of the baseball team from Brown and the women's softball team, they would come and he would shove them the ball and then he would change the formula for gravity and then they had to adjust. And so he would follow and so he was able to debunk two of these series. Well, he has that little taper. He got eight, he got sent at eight different places, it got rejected, the ninth one finally accepted it. And he ended up being on Fox News and in Forbes Magazine from studying a lot of catch-a-baseball.\r\n\r\n- That's interesting.\r\n\r\n- But he does motion studies. An interesting one, that one would be supposed to be playing the piano. You one, three, five one, three, five one, three, five. One, three, five and then you do a silence for one, for the fourth beat and then none back to five, three, one. Suppose you start with three, one, five? All right, if you do that, three, one, five, blank, three, one, five, as you speed it up, eventually you get to one, three, five. That's more natural. There's something about your brain. And so I would say, yeah, so things like that, he knew motion studies. One that I did with the virtual reality lab is, was, is to, you would start you with one place, you would say take 10 steps and so you'll just have, and your of course, umbilical cord, and then you stop and it turns you for an angle and then you go to another few steps, then he stops. Now he says, on your own, go back to start. So how well can you do after you've done that? And it, you said he did this and he got a result that he didn't like, but of course he had to accept it. The women did not have do as well as the men.\r\n\r\n- What was the rationale there?\r\n\r\n- None, no, and he had to report that he didn't like that, to you know, report that way. But and then the other, another thing he had to do was go through a maze that of course, the maze was a virtual ring so it was a hedge and then he would put a little statue in the corner or go hang up the thing on the wall and you go through the maze. And so then you would go through the maze and then he would ask you a bunch of questions, could you, and so one of the places was to walk a plant or cross a pit. Of course, there's no pit.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I fell off that plank into the pit. I, my mind could not overcome what I saw.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I saw and I stepped off to the side and I could not, I knew that, so was a floor like this, but I could have incredible feeling, oh yeah. And then, so he went back to book or return from there to establish his own lab.\r\n\r\n- Wow, cool.\r\n\r\n- But he didn't get to it because he had a $5,000,000 grant just to start to say, they take him from Boca Raton to Washington DC, NIH, so he's gonna be with somebody to do this, I forget what this was doing, how to be the honcho, you know. So he gets home and there's a letter there awaiting him that the 5,000,000 grant has been withdrawn. The reason was that Congress had not gotten done their budget.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So they couldn't do their budget. So NSF or NIH couldn't do their budget. So he without it for a year, without a job and he got this job in New Zealand and he's been there 11 years. And now he's on his way moving to Sorbonne in Paris.\r\n\r\n- Oh, wow.\r\n\r\n- So he has just added, I guess it's classes, hand in August, and then he can, he's still got vacation pay and that they'll pay him, but he could leave. So he'll be leaving the last week of August he'll go to Paris. He'll miss some of his early classes there too, but they don't care. They, he teaches and in New Zealand he's been teaching the certain classes in Biomechanics at all the universities. They all have the same curriculum and he teaches them the anatomy and it's the skeletal and muscular anatomy. So as a new study at the mechanics of the bones and the muscle and the tendons and everything, yeah, so that's it and so he likes motion studies and he's very interested in, because it is positioned in Paris as part teaching, part in an Institute. And a research Institute has lots of equipment and they do vibration studies, which he is very interested in that this piano study, he's never finished that the idea he thinks this is that you can tell that Bach is harder to play the Mozart because of the fingering that's required. And that'll be nice to document though. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah . It certainly sounds more complicated.\r\n\r\n- Yeah and they bought that and you do four and you got to four so there's 24 on 10 units. You subdivided those 24 into ones that are natural ones that and. So the empty one tends to move, migrate to, yeah, so that's, so he's not married, but I taught him to ride the bicycle and that's what he does. He's never owned a car, he's 52 years old. He's lives in New Zealand, he's lived 15 miles from campus every day and.\r\n\r\n- That's a little bit of a commute.\r\n\r\n- Yeah and so, on Saturdays, he goes for 100 miles, 100 K drive. He's spent several four summers in Europe, riding in the mountains with his bike by himself. I wouldn't have liked that and you know, that's a country you could easily get into going too fast, going down and mountains, but he looked for the steepest mountain, he did. When I moved, when we moved him from Boca Raton to mini San Francisco, his brother has already there, lived in San Francisco, had a house on Bernal Heights is at the top of a hill.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay and a pretty steep hill to get up and so we get there and of course, Phillip doesn't have any apartment, the first thing we have to do is parked the truck and go look for an apartment, or our car look for an apartment. And so he had, you know, this is three days in a truck, he's been chomping at the bit and so he gets out his bike saving, \"I'll beat you up that hill.\" He bent his frame.\r\n\r\n- Oh!\r\n\r\n- I mean, he's strong.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- He bent his frame and these are $1,500 bikes that aren't your swing.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And yeah, and then he, then actually, he joined the Berkeley Bike Club, he found the Berkeley Bike Club and they go for, I ended up by 11:00 o'clock, they were back from 110 mile ride.\r\n\r\n- That's some serious cyclists in the Bay area, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and so they were part of a race and he was going to be the one that was their leaders there, and then he had, courtesy of his knees and his knee was never able to do that but yeah, he's still a biker. And I don't know whether Paris has been, well, how well that works.\r\n\r\n- Well, it'll be close to the Tour de France.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, he is now watching Tour de France while he's learning French, to speak French. So that, so we're excited about that because we, going to New Zealand to visit him was a 24 hour, minimum of 24 hours and the maximum was returned to $1, it took us 48 hours, you know, various equipment problems and you know, yeah, and so the visit from Paris, we're not, we weren't going to go in anymore to New Zealand and that was the end, I couldn't do that anymore and so Paris, you know, that's maybe doable, that you can get it down to two legs, you can fly to Atlanta on Delta and then be back in the morning, so.\r\n\r\n- So what was it like sharing, you know, your life with three other PhDs or what is it like?\r\n\r\n- It's perfectly normal, there's nothing about it. None of us were, he was, not Doctor, no. No, I've never asked to be called Doctor or anything like that. It's always greats me that the secretaries in the department always says, I don't know who tells them to do that.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think that's come around maybe for a while, it was out of favor, but I think nowadays it's becoming more in but yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so yeah, there's, so occasionally Phillip will ask me a mathematical question and I could help him, but George has worked with computer science, I know. I learned basic. I didn't even go through the four trends. So Java and C and C plus and all that stuff, you know, so.\r\n\r\n- It's a whole bunch now. So, when and why did you decide to retire?\r\n\r\n- Well, I guess. I didn't really want to be burdened with having another person ask me to be their advisor. I don't know why. I had nine PhD students and I thought that was sort of enough to be around without having students was probably not a good thing. But we were, had things to do. So first thing I did the first semester I was off, I thought we went to Europe to, we had friends that knew about an organization called, what is it, do your own tour. So, what you do is you do so these people set up a tour for you, for a group. So you, they fly you to Europe, so the one we took was called An Tour. So we flew from, I guess, Chicago, I think, or we flew for a Florida through Prague, so they met us at the airport at the Prague and then they had an apartment in downtown Prague that, where we could stay, there was kitchen facilities and so they left a little bit of stuff, there was a bottle of milk and for breakfast in there and then they would give you an orientation to the City of Prague, they give you a ticket on the, a week's ticket on the transportation system and say goodbye. And so for a week, you take care of your own meals and you use your apartment and we took it as an opportunity to do a lot of music. We like playing classical music, so we saw operas and well, now you know things and at the end of the week, they came, they took us to the airport and flew us to Budapest, and took us to Pest, and got an apartment and repeat these things. We saw more operas there and music in Hungary and at the end of that time then they came, took us back to the train station and took a train to Vienna and so we are a week in Vienna and then they flew us home. And so all these details are taken care of for you, except you didn't have to go where everybody else did. The tour, there's no. So we've done several of those tours. We went to what? To Spain, one, another one.\r\n\r\n- That sounds great.\r\n\r\n- It is, I'm a tourist, so we enjoyed ourselves going through Europe. We'd been to Europe so often before, but not. But being in Spain, we went to a small village and in Budapest and Prague, we got tickets to the subway and train stations. And Vienna, we got also there, but to the train system. But in Spain, we got a car, a rental car, they rented a car for us and then which we went to, flew to Malaga, which is the whole town of Picasso. And now, we saw the Solvent Cordoba and El hombre, I don't know if you know about that, a lot, the Moorish architecture and so, but there was a small enough town that after, in the evening, all the people who would be in the public squares, so we would go down to public square, sit down what, saw people.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and so the people got to know us for after a week or two weeks, we did two weeks there and.\r\n\r\n- Is there places you haven't seen yet that you want.\r\n\r\n- Oh yeah, I have never seen Niagara Falls, the Grand Canyon or Alaska.\r\n\r\n- Oh, okay.\r\n\r\n- Those are three of them that I wanted to do and I never got 'em done and I'm not gonna get 'em done.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, why not? Grand canyon and Niagara Falls, those are easy.\r\n\r\n- Canyon's too hard.\r\n\r\n- I, yeah, we, my relatives, my first family lived in South Coast, North Coast of Minnesota, and we're done visiting them. I have a sister, my wife, my older brother's widow lives in Bismarck and we're not gonna go visit her, she's got Alzheimer's anyway. And then my brother, Albert, who is two years older than I, he's 91 still living, but he's been on in hospice for over a year and, but I'm not going to visit in his funeral, so it's over.\r\n\r\n- So, do you have any advice for future mathematicians or other faculty here at Iowa state? What do you think they need to know to?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't know whether I'm in a good position. To give that 'cause if you wanna be successful as a mathematician, now, if you wanna get known, you've got to specialize and dig deep and I've never done that. And I, so I.\r\n\r\n- Do you ever regret that or is that just the way it is?\r\n\r\n- No I don't regret that, but you know, it comes with reports from the head of the department that you're re delinquent because you don't have a grant. You don't get a raise because you don't have a grant. So I went to, you know, over my years, never, hardly ever getting a grant or raise, so I never complained about it, I, every night, I've been able to live. I , I don't spend the money. I mean, I, when I retired, my salary went up. And I think that most people that came in about time, that's two, so we went, and I, you know, you were required to do TIAA-CREF, all right, so it's voluntary and in my case, I didn't spend all that. We were, are, our needs are very plain and so I had actually put something extra and then I was at a point there was 15% interest. So the TIAA-CREF, if you retire.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So, you know, I'm on a retirement annuity that pays me way more than I've ever got as a professor, it's yeah.\r\n\r\n- It can be done.\r\n\r\n- It can be done, yes. Well, the thing is I, so I was here in Iowa State from 67 to 72 and in 72, I took a leave of absence without pay and went to Denmark for a half year and did mathematics there, all right, and there was a reason for that and I wanted to go and so I never took any money from the university to do my traveling. And so, when I got back there, Harris Dickey was on the Maths Department, he was an old timer, he just had a master's degree and just taught that, we you used to have the office in building H and which was on that side of Literature, the West side of Literature and he said, \"How can,\" he asked me, \"How can you afford to go to Denmark and not get paid?\" And I said, \"Well,\" he says, I asked him, \"You can live in a big house, how much do you pay in taxes?\" So he told me and I told him how much I pay in taxes. The difference in the taxes can live in Denmark for half a year, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yep.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so I've always, we've lived, when we moved into a part of Ames that was mixed poor people, rich people, middle people or whatever, our neighbor was a nightwatchman, we had a neighbor that was a barber, a policemen, a guy who worked the rails for the railroad and, you know, and a veterinarian and so were, we paid cash for our house. I know it's seven years that I was gone, I lived frugal, well, I traveled, I lived frugally but you know, we paid cash and so we're still living there and .\r\n\r\n- It's an investment, yeah.\r\n\r\n- So, yeah, that's it nothing to complain about. I know, but I'm sure that most people don't want to do that.\r\n\r\n- You have to makes a lot of choices and yeah, like you said, be frugal and stick to a budget.\r\n\r\n- Yeah and so, yeah, I've been on trains, I have been on trains but most people never thought of it, like I have, I don't know, I used the Land O'Corn, you know, the one and only Land O'Corn. Where did you grow up?\r\n\r\n- I grew up here in Marshall town.\r\n\r\n- Marshall?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, we took train to Colorado when I was young to visit my aunt and then, you know, living in the Northeast, you know, trains were just the natural part of transportation, so yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I took the Land O'Corn and the Hiawatha through Perry and to Sioux falls and that's of course gone through San Francisco twice all the way to San Francisco twice and I took Atlantic Coast Line down to Atlantic coast from Boston to Florida, Miami. And I was, when I was in the military, I took Atlantic Coast Line from Fort Bragg and the BNO from Washington DC to Chicago through Cincinnati.\r\n\r\n- Did you ever take, I forget the name of it, but up through like the Canadian Rockies and Bridge Columbia and Alberta. Oh.\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- Gorgeous, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so you know, so I like going on trains. We've gone on the trains on the East Coast now on Amtrak, yeah and so my wife and I, along with friends, have been to Philadelphia very often. She was on various committees so that essentially if she was in Philadelphia once a month.\r\n\r\n- Oh wow, okay.\r\n\r\n- And I was occasionally, then I, occasionally I would go with her and I've walked around a lot of Philadelphia and seen a lot in Philadelphia. And then I was on the board of the French Journal, which is a magazine. I was on the board for nine years, I was on the board. So I, we met three times a year, so I went three times a year and then when we'd go to DC also. The friends committee on National Legislation is the quote, a lobbying organization and so, there a lobby that's been there 76 years and quite influential because they will not do anything partisan, but they will tell you the truth about what's gonna happen if you pass this law. And so my wife is really into that, she spends a lot of time with that and we do, we've been doing virtual lobby visits during the pandemic with our own senators and, well, not , not the going hut, what you might call it?\r\n\r\n- Grassley or .\r\n\r\n- No. The guy from our representative.\r\n\r\n- Oh.\r\n\r\n- Why can't I think, he's from Kieron.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I don't know the reps, yeah. Well, that's a new one now feeds .\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so. Yeah so, the, so we've done and then the other thing is that there's a national organization of friends of meetings, it's called French General Conference that has a yearly week long conference, always the week covering fourth of July and we've done that for 30 years. We just got done a virtual one this last Sunday, the fourth of July was on Sunday, so it was, yeah. So, and we, that has met that usually meets on college campuses and various campuses. They've met at Cornell College twice and the first time when we were the chairs of the committee that formed that, organized that, so we did that, when we organization, you know.\r\n\r\n- So aside from kind of those activities, what else are you, are you doing these days? What do you, what keeps you active and engaged?\r\n\r\n- Well I garden, I've always gardened so, and, you know, so I used to mow my lawn with a push mower until five years ago and it's gotten too hard for me, so I went and bought an electric one. So yeah, so I do that. I spend some time at our meeting house doing maintenance, things like that. I'm reading, we do a lot of reading and with our new England friend, we do, our son, we're doing a music project, so each week, one of us names a piece and then we listen to one of these Southern, go to YouTube and see and so I just, so we just got through with Bach Partita and we just go and so we listen to a one a day and then he listens to one a day and then we send notes and it's remarkable how different they can be. You know, you take a piece and then you whirl in, and there can be a lot of difference . So yeah, it's so interesting to see if we can figure. So we've been doing that project now all due to the pandemic. Yeah and so I just named the Beethoven Piece that we're starting out tomorrow.\r\n\r\n- Oh cool.\r\n\r\n- And so yeah, so we're doing things like that and. And then we bike. We bike every day that the weather is okay.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I have, I've been ahead of the curve. I've had, I'm ahead of the curve on this. This has been there since 1962.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And as a matter of fact, I raised it because Charlottesville, Virginia, and we're celebrating the 250th anniversary and I wanna tell you, and I never. So when it got to Nebraska, where there's, the students came and took a picture of me and put on a student newspaper. A lot of, this bountiful beard that they saw, so. And the other thing is bicycle.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And I have, my son, I've taught my son to bicycle because I never had a parking permit or for my car, I've never had it.\r\n\r\n- What do you do in the winter?\r\n\r\n- I bicycle. Okay.\r\n\r\n- Now, I lived, and we lived, our house is three blocks at the Crow Files, three blocks west to east of Hilton.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's not too far.\r\n\r\n- No, it's not far.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So I bicycle in winter days. There would be maybe five days, it would be too icy, or the snow was .\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Then I would walk.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, okay.\r\n\r\n- But yeah, well, I've always ridden in the winter time, that didn't stop me.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- And of course nobody, I was a single point until well, late 60s.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Except my wife was also a biker.\r\n\r\n- Cool, okay.\r\n\r\n- So and we, I had a bike and when I lived in Lincoln and she had a bike too, when we were married. And so I, when I bought I, when I moved to Ames and I biked everywhere, I still bike everywhere, unless, even this last year was a good year for biking. My wife doesn't like the cold weather that much, but we biked into the second week of December the last summer, though.\r\n\r\n- Nice, I mean, we got early snow this last year, yeah.\r\n\r\n- But it wasn't.\r\n\r\n- It went away, but yeah.\r\n\r\n- It went away and the weather wasn't that cold, it got cold later, when we went to Spain it was very cold, but yeah. Well, off clinic out on certain tension, I'm the guy that rides a bike in the winter time, that's it just who I am, I'd say. Yeah so, I still, I, you know, I'm my, as we went to visit my New Zealand son we ride bicycles and bike with him, so. So yeah, so I was way ahead on that curve too.\r\n\r\n- Did you ever do it like any bike trips or?\r\n\r\n- Well I did RAGBRI 76. RAGBRI 3 1976.\r\n\r\n- Okay, wow, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Did you enjoy it?\r\n\r\n- Oh yeah, so. And then I, and the kids did various leagues, one or two leagues close by, so on several occasions, but you know, I did it once and then I was fine and then I. I bought a new bike to do that, so I had a three speed shin and I bought a, I was actually still living in Minneapolis, so I bought it there to get ready for it. I would have been done when all the first ride rack but if we were in Minnesota, then and yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well, I've run out of my questions. So is there anything that we haven't talked about that you'd like to discuss?\r\n\r\n- Well yeah, I guess the other thing that, I mean, music, the thing is I was on the town on Colony board, that's a couple of sessions, a couple of terms and you know, and I think I spent 15 years as the stage manager of Central Iowa Symphony and also being on the board. So that's, and we attend to, we, recitalist, we're frequently, we're taking part in recitals over the music building.\r\n\r\n- Is there a particular performance or that was most memorable or?\r\n\r\n- Well, yeah, the thing is I grew up in, you know, in South Dakota and they weren't, WW Yaks was the station in Arkansas, it was a station and everything, and we got a station KNOX. Is that right, yeah, St. Louis. So I think the first English words I knew were baseball terms.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- So German, was my first language, right?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So we listened, I have been a Cardinal fan since I was that small, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- And reality, so everybody was a Cardinal fan. And so I knew about walks and hits, maybe I, so things like that, maybe. We listened to Dizzy Dean and all that, so yeah. And the other thing is watched a listened, very often, we'd listen to the Saturday afternoon opera, Metropolitan opera and that is unusual, I, nobody else in my family particularly liked that, but I liked that. And so when I got to college, that was a big thing because we had an interesting artists program at work but run by the head of the Chemistry department, Elle Swensen, that's how I ended up, so various famous pianists and violinists and singers, came through it and I enjoyed that. And then when I came to Iowa state as a student, that's because they didn't have, there was no academic music department, but they had a Music department. It was Elsa Nemac was a violinist, they had a cello player and a piano player, and a couple of people who did oral choral music. and they didn't, no degrees. I mean, it was just this one, but their choral program was already really, really good. 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That's, that's interesting about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=902.25,904.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think he can get away from the,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=904.25,906.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly the economics department is, is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=908.74,911.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is agricultural economics is also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=911.74,915.263"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, thank you for the, the epilogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=919.26,920.983"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughter)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=920.983,922.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=922.76,923.593"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34898/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/898/original/Fink_03_2021-07-07.vtt?1639684010","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/898/original/Fink_03_2021-07-07.vtt?1639684010"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34899","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459/transcript/34899/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Okay, go ahead. So, you're gonna talk about John Atanasoff.\r\n\r\n- I guess I already told you the story about the cards machines.\r\n\r\n- Mhm\r\n\r\n- And so, so, so that's part of it, but so what he said was that, well, he, what he was doing, he was solving partial differential equations. And the technique for doing that was well-known. And so there's approximations that, which involved that, you start with some initial data and that tells you that you can go a little bit of time, and then you have to start over again. And what you have to do, the initial data for the second step is the final data on the first step.\r\n\r\n- Mhm So, so what you could do as you are computing this stuff, so that you're, point by point you're getting the data, you could put it on a card. And then reenter it, into it here. But that's, that's way too complicated. You should be, be able to keep it inside the machine without doing anything to it. How to do that, he finally figured out. And that was one of the crucial steps and his configuration and what he was doing, so that this, using the final data to, as the initial data, without going through the process of printing it out and reentering it. So exactly how that's done? They probably had that data, when they made the machine. Was it, several years ago that they finished redoing it?\r\n\r\n- The replica? Yep.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. So they, so that's, that's what he told me about. And I guess the other Atanasoff stories are about his hire hiring effort. I don't think I told you.\r\n\r\n- I don't think so, no.\r\n\r\n- It's in the history, but. He got a degree in electrical engineering from the university of Florida. And so, he applies at Iowa State. Why does he apply at Iowa State? For graduate school. Well, he told me, he said he, the reputation of the department at Iowa State was that it does real problems. And that's what he wanted to do. So he came and writes this thesis about something, about a molecule with a physical symmetry or something like that. Something with Edward Allen. So, so, so that's what he wants to do. I've lost my train of thought.\r\n\r\n- So he wanted to real-world problems and so his thesis.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, the real real problems. And so he stayed as, as an assistant, as a lecture for a couple of years before he went and got his PhD in Wisconsin for physics and rehired in 1930. And, but before he could become a graduate school student, I looked, I looked at his, I looked at at the, the department file, which just adds the letters, the letters that, where he applied, the recommendation letters. And the, what was on top, the very first thing I saw when I opened that file was a letter from the head of the electrical engineering department at University of Florida, which said that Atanasoff was a Romanian and went to the Presbyterian church. No, no, I thought it might not be the correct. I mean, that would be a differentiator. But that, it was the church church, and.\r\n\r\n- Nationality\r\n\r\n- Nationality.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And I said, what the heck's going on? So I turned that over and there's a letter that's requesting that. It's from this letter. What's the letter said? It says, We would like some more information about Atanasoff because there are some people that we don't hire.\r\n\r\n- Oh, this was Iowa state saying that? And so reading between the lines, who did they hire?\r\n\r\n- Well, what they can't hire is a Jew.\r\n\r\n- Ah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- This sounds it could be a Jew.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And it's interesting because without saying it, the person knew what that question was.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Really sad. Really sad and stupid.\r\n\r\n- So there were these informal quotas at many institutions at the time, was the same here?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, you're right.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. And we didn't hire a Jew until Linda Grade came, in the 40's. The same, same guy that may have wrote this letter hired, hired Linda Grade. So there might've been a statistician to this Jewish, I don't know. But, but you see when Edward Ellen, was here. His thing was a civil liberties union. And, he was one of the people that was against that. He also was against the fact that the faculty were not allowed to be political. They could not overtly say which party they went for, or what. And Edward got that changed in 45, in the 40's. So there were these stupid things that they had. But I mean, those are the two worst ones. I could tell you another story, which you don't want to write down. But uh, which has to do with, with black people.\r\n\r\n- It's taken a long time for.\r\n\r\n- I could, we could turn this off and I can tell you another story. But I think, Atanasoff, I don't think, I think that the rest of the stories have that problem. He got a raise in the middle of it.\r\n\r\n- Well, you mentioned, and this has come up before, I think not just in your interview, but in others. So this reputation as real problems. So, I mean, was that something that was, was that a, I mean, something that the department, or obviously the university focused on, or did it just come by the unique composition of faculty or how, how did this reputation for being a department that focused on real problems come about?\r\n\r\n- Look at that at the moral end. what is there, what is, what is the reason given? The given is, is, is that going to college means taking Latin, Greek, Philosophy. And we aren't, we're not going to do that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And so to do that, they can't do it halfway. They have to overdo it.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So when the first, if you look at the first classes that were taught in the math department, there wasn't any mathematics there. It was, it was simple algebra and right angle trigonometry. Sign and Co-Sign weren't functions, they were just, they were sides to a right triangle. That's all they could do. As a matter of fact, George Jones was probably fired because he wanted to teach calculus. And that was, that was way out. I mean, that wasn't applicable to the farmer that was driving a John Deere tractor.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, mhm.\r\n\r\n- So they had to go overboard. And, and, and if you look at the history of what you'll have outlined in the history. When I did, wrote my history, I outlined that a little bit. Repeatedly, they had to argue, he had to argue, there was supposed to be a physics department without getting a degree in physics. There was supposed to be a math department without getting a degree in mathematics. They didn't want, they didn't want, those are all too, they had to say that an engineer could use it, or an engineer might use it, or maybe they're willing to use it. And that, yeah. So that's, so that's comes natural. I say that the real problems. Yeah. That's, that's what we've been doing for the last 50 years. Well, the real problem was, you know, computer, it's either an angle or something like that, but really low level stuff. You can't imagine, you can't imagine somebody that comes from a college tradition, would come to Iowa state and, and do all that nonsense. So the engineering, the engineering was started doing how to do surveys, how to look at the levels and do surveying and mechanical drawing. That had no intellectual content.\r\n\r\n- Hmm. Hmm. So do you think, how far away from this original reputation has Iowa state gotten?\r\n\r\n- Well. I think that, well, the Ames lab, of course it's still on the, real problems side. Although that's probably probably the, the major things that you could say that people outside look at Iowa state. I don't know whether, I don't know enough about the biological sciences or what to, what to say anything about there, but there are some engineers that are known outside. I think that their construction engineering program is really, really good. So, but they're solving real problems. I mean, engineering school.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think, I think this isn't, this also seems to be a trend at other institutions, particularly on a global scale, where with climate change and other things that are big, big issues that need, you know, big actions. So I think there's, there's a real need there. So.\r\n\r\n- What's interesting at the university of Iowa, they had the Fluid Dynamics Institute there, which is right on the Iowa river. They use the Iowa river to do experiments. But, but you would never think when you look at the math department. When the people that I knew there, there was one guy that was doing applied mathematics. Actually doing, problems that could use, can be used to these days. Problems on pandemics and stuff, diseases, you know? So he, he was, he was a lone person. But the statistics department was also, is, is not known for its series. Well, Snedeker is known for the book. See, when I went to Princeton, I met, I met some people there. And then they said, they said that there's only three statistics departments in the United States. North Carolina State, Princeton, and Iowa State. But Carter said that's long gone. But Iowa, Iowa state is the one that, that, that stayed more applied, then the other system. So like Stanford and Berkeley, have a good, a well known statistics department. But they do a lot of sort of abstract things too. And not, not just ordinary statistics. Yeah. That's, that's interesting about that. I don't think he can get away from the, certainly the economics department is, is, is agricultural economics is also.\r\n\r\n- Well, thank you for the, the epilogue.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1755/collection_resources/57423/file/131459#t=0.0,924.024"}]}]}]}