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I'm pleased to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927#t=3413.29,3417.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927/transcript/36687/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people still reading my papers rather and I'm not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927#t=3419.56,3424.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927/transcript/36687/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"surprised. Well thank you very very much. I really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927#t=3424.78,3426.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927/transcript/36687/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do appreciate the time because I know it's what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927#t=3426.85,3429.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73087/file/158927/transcript/36687/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your time is valuable. 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And this is Tanya Sanish about Belcher interviewing Dr. Isabella Kahl at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C.. And first can I ask you to tell me about your family your background. I know you grew up in Detroit. Yes I was born and brought up in Detroit. My parents had come from Poland go lonely did not know each other until. I. Became. I grew up in my early years speaking only. Polish. Mother taught me to read and write before I went to school. That was in. And so I was one of about 40 students in the first grade at the Detroit elementary school who spoke a European language the other 39 spoke other European languages. Nobody spoke English. And did they teach English when you went to school. And it didn't take long before all of us could talk to each other and. Read in first grade. And so this was great. You went seven years old was it when you went to. Yes. OK. And so and I have to ask in your early schooling did you have an interest in chemistry right away or and in science in general. No I didn't know anything about science. I did not know anything my family I would say didn't know anything about science. Other than a drug that prepared no medications. And. There were of course in. Engineering. Inventions going on at the time that I was growing up. On the. Bed I knew about. But they did push education though I guess both my parents were very anxious. As much information as possible and seeing that one of them went to school. So they really wanted them for you. Yes. So what. How did you get drawn into chemistry to start with. Well it was already decided at home that I. One way or another would be going to. College. Now that. Was difficult because these were depression days. But I. Had to make sure I had the appropriate courses in high school. To. Be able to be. Qualified for college. My advisor told me Well you have to have a year of science. And I asked a little. What is that. Well we teach three sciences biology chemistry and physics anyway out of the blue door. And so it was mostly I tossed a little coin that I said All right I'll take a year of chemistry. Really. And. During that first week. The chemistry course of my life changed. And what did you like about what. Appealed to you. It was so different. Than anything else I had. Experienced. And to. Be able. To work with various solutions and get other. Substances precipitates a different colors different smells. That do the. We did some elementary distillation and. It was just sort of the unknown that was being revealed to me. And so you decided that's what you want to do and you get it. When you acknowledge. That disturbing my parents a bit. In that they didn't know anything about science why did you want to be a lawyer. Doctor teacher. And. What did you say to them. Well I told them that this training wouldn't prevent me from being a lawyer or a doctor or a teacher. So I did. And so they they finally agreed with that. Yes. And so you started school in 1939 correct or you graduated in thirty nine the first degree. And got my high school degree in nineteen thirty eight. Yes. And so you had a scholarship I think. Yes. I did well in school. And. The teachers were interested. You weren't. My future might be. And. When there was a general examination in the state of Michigan. For a scholarship to the University of Michigan based. I suppose high school records but also the. Rather extensive. Examination of facts and figures and things. I came out forms in the state. And so that assured me. Of scholarship so did you start with chemistry right away. Yes. Actually I started at Wayne State University because I had graduated to the middle of the year for high school. So we split the range of and so I immediately went to Wayne State University wasn't Wayne State then. I don't remember when there was a university run by Detroit or Wayne County which is more or less the same and it wasn't until after World War Two. That. It had become one. The. State. It was an interesting place that it was in the condemned high school building. Of. What. I think was central high school. In Detroit. And classes ran round the clock. They had so many students. These were all students who came by bus to speaker. Many of them. Who could find work. And it was due to the war the war effort or the gearing up for the war effort. Do you think. No. I mean. There were no jobs available. 1938 the war in this. Battle. And. The depression had already been going on for quite a number of years and Detroit was particularly hard hit because all the automobile factories were closed. And in addition to that. Detroit and Michigan produced refrigerators and nobody was buying refrigerators and icebox what we do is everybody took the opportunity go back to school. Yes. And when you started at Michigan and in the fall of the fall of 38 and started with chemistry. Yes I. I did already have credits regional chemistry and I the University of Michigan used to have a separate school of chemistry. By the time I went there it had become part of the college and literally that are just science nerds. But they still had a special degree with many more requirements in chemistry than. The ordinary majors for other studies. And so we had a rather federal education at this level. I got my bachelor's degree in 1941. And went down from a master's degree. And this was ready during. World War Two and I got my PHC actually. In January of 44. So you see there was not that much time in between the time I started I finally that might be HD but that was hastened considerably by no vacations and Sunday work. So are there any particular classes that you really enjoyed while you're working either in undergraduate or graduate. Yes I really enjoyed organic chemistry and as it turned out it became a physical chemist. We had. A professor in the right in Michigan. His name was. Or under Bachman who is a very well known. MAN IN. Chemistry and he already had some 30 students graduate student at the school of management. And so you ended up in physical chemistry because of ethics. Did you have any professors besides Dr. Bachmann that really inspired you that. Oh yes. The man who taught physical chemistry. He had just come to the university as a young professor at that time was a very good teacher and eventually a very good friend and so I stayed on at the University of Michigan just during wartime. It was not easy or advisable to go off to another university graduate. Once you had a slot it was going to probably be. Yes. And then after I had my P H I met. My husband then. When I was about I was a senior and he had come as a graduate student. And after a couple of years we could get married. And so I was married by the time we had both. And you had a class together. Correct. Is that how you met. Yes. Yes. And then you worked together I think also for Dr. Brooklyn. Is that right. Yes. Well first as soon as he got a page. The. There he was. So did go through it and for. The. Atomic bomb project the metal engine that as he got his hearing some months before I got. It when I got my degree and went to work there also. So was that a good experience. It was a fascinating experience. In that again this was a new element plutonium which nobody was supposed to know anything about and actually some of the new people who come to work chemistry you know or even told what it was whether they could find out from the kinds of experiments that were asked to do. With what the material may be. But I already knew and. They told me early in the process and could make a long story short. Plutonium oxide was being produced at Oak Creek and the problem was that physicists thought that the problem was to get as pure plutonium as possible metal so that they could do the calculations and their theories that showed them that they really needed the pure metal in order for the fission process to work to work. So we had this cruddy looking yellow. This is nice yellow dirty yellow material which we were told was plutonium up side and various groups tried in various ways to make pure compounds from the plutonium other than the oxide and then use that as this intermediate step in order to kill metal. And so what I accomplished doing was taking this outside and. Working in a vacuum line that high temperatures and making plutonium chloride. And I did that. About four or five different ways of studied various slurry chlorine containing kind of and they grow beautiful beautiful stones and some gem like. So you really enjoyed that work. I enjoyed that. Of course none of us knew how dangerous it was. I was surprised that most of us survived to mourn this old age alone at all. So I bet you I didn't do that for very long. It was about six months. And by that time both the project my husband was on and. What I was doing had come to an end. It was a stopping point. And he was offered still doing what. He would do. He was offered a research position by the Naval Research Laboratory. But to be done. At the University of Michigan because of proper equipment. And I went along with him because they offered me the first instructor ship ever offered to a woman at Michigan and rich in chemistry. And so I spent the next year. I have a use and teaching freshman chemistry to engineers. Was that a tenure track position or was that outside. I know it well. Whether it could have worked up to a technical acquisition. It might have. Except of course that there were. The. Rules that they could not have. A married couple both having tenure or any kind of an appointment in this. And so. After a year or two we. Are. Expecting. Elsewhere and most universities had such rules and though. We were very pleased with that system who. Was having surface chemistry. So yes that that you knew a Dr. Freedman here who worked with the upper atmosphere X-rays and things of that sort that might be more to our liking since our graduate work. Was in electron diffraction and actually both of us came to work which was a very fortunate thing. Yes that was in 1946. And while I was still here so long tenure I was just remarking. Then. Here a long time. That doesn't happen in academia anymore. Oh. No I suppose not. It happen. More. In the past. During our time here. We have had opportunities to have other employment. At various universities elsewhere. We decided that we liked and they supported your research here as well. Yes. So one of the things that kind of intrigued me was that you really went after the practical component of your research. And I was sorry if you talk about that a little bit and why you decided to go the practical route kind of providing support for your husband's theoretical research. I think what people do best is what they can do best. And although I suppose I could have worked and in theory. I found that. It was much easier for me to go and be qualified to. Do the experiments they all the experiments that not necessarily come after the theoretical work. Some of them did. Some of them came before you. Do anything differently. To support. An. Effort. What did you like best about them. Basically building equipment because it still involved Crystal research. I didn't start crystallization until. The. 50s. I had been involved in. Structure analysis papers for that notebook. What I like about. What I was doing is that it involves very many things to be involved in the design of equipment. Nowadays you usually go out and look at the catalog and find something. Instead of your lead. I guess that wasn't the case in most of the physical chemist said to build their own spectrometer in their own direction or whatever but that way you could convert it more for your specific needs direct back with exactly what you wanted to do or make it rather flexible so that not too many changes. Go from one type of experiment to another but to return to my activities. It was the design of equipment that was. Of course a consideration of what kinds of materials to use in these instruments the how to make good vacuums get high temperatures not blow and so high. Of course a good thing Fifty thousand volts was quite a high voltage at that time. And basically the Naval Research Lab today gave you lab space and gave you support. Not only that it was very good and then he had complete chops leftover from World War 2 which kept them functioning. There was the foundry so that they could melt the metals for them and to whatever shapes we needed. They had good machine shops vacuum shelves glass blown shops electronics shops you. State of the art of the 1940s. And 50s and that was extremely convenient. In fact one of the. Associate. Directors. Somebody assistant of the laboratory. A military man. Who later became director said Oh why don't you build two of everything. And in that way when you put things together enough one has pinhole leaks in it and that's possible we test material. Someone doesn't quite fit the whatever you have to spare. And the good I came at the end before these six by making forty eight. Not only that we have this rather complicated diffraction instrument that ran at high voltage low back. So all that sort of thing but it was already used and papers were published using it. That is a very quick turnaround turned around from idea to. Yes very. True. Practical results. In the sense publications. So that I don't think we could have done that at the university or other place nearly as easily. Because then most institutions were not equipped in such a way and I was very sorry to see all these shafts disappear this time because they were a good resource. Yes definitely. Well I have to ask in fact someday I'm going to go back and do an oral history project based on couples that work together because I think that's a really interesting component of this is that you work so closely with your husband. And how did you find that in your research. Well I think. It worked out well because we did different things together. We did. There were very few activities in which we worked side by side. We did our thing separately. And mesh together. Yes. And what did what did you like best about working with him and what did you like least. Some very great man. Good ideas and we were always quite compatible and what we wanted to do was well I thought he was a bit unreasonable but then. In some sense. As I look back he wasn't. There in order to do the experiments. The early experiments in the. Kind of action a lot of the materials we studied were in a vapor state. At room temperature but it was also possible to study materials and vaporize relatively easily. And so we would have a vial of. The salad or. A. Liquid and heat it and. Then. The vapor would. Go through a very fine art pager a beam of electrons that would be scattered by your data. And that I had such a material I didn't have enough hands to. Operate the instrument physically and also to heat up the sample and watch the temperature. Yes. Come in slowly at. The right time. And so I asked him how he would help. And. He did. I got the diffraction pattern. In fact. Eventually I got the structure but after he helped. He asked. Oh by the way what was that material. Well this is the kind of material that was used for detonating explosions but that the temperatures that I thought we were keeping it up to it would have been perfectly safe and buzz but you wouldn't talk to me that you hadn't been forthcoming about what he was working with. I see. So over the years how do you think your research changed or how you attack tackled problems is that it change. Yes it did. I mean we rarely work together now. However the first big change came. When we were quite successful in arriving at information from electron diffraction studies of papers that it was not impossible to arrive at. That is the study and get good results for not only defined distances and angles in the molecule but also the vibrations of motion and he thought that the both the theoretical work and the experimental work were so good that the entire radical work could have other applications. And he started to think about the solid state structure. And for several years I went down another. Working with the experiments in a Kansas State. Well he. And Herbert Hellman at that time came as a new employee. He. And Herbert hope. Worked on other applications of this kind of theoretical thinking that went into the electron diffraction. And they did come up with solving a problem for which they eventually. Developed rise. But that was way back in was the first paper was 1949 and nobody in the X-ray field would use these results. Absolutely nobody said they wouldn't work couldn't work. There were papers published to that effect that it couldn't work. And one day Jerome looked at me. Why don't you do an X-ray diffraction experiment and we'll see if it works. And so again it was fortunate that we were here at this particular laboratory because I could fire a high potential. And I think that barrel somebody else's X-ray camera and set it up and do the experiments for obtaining the diffraction pattern. But then I went to a book on how to interpret diffraction patterns. What do they mean. This was written by Martin Berger from me and my team. And after our successes he always referred to me as one of his best students although I never had a course for. The class. And so there was a lot of practical application to the formulas that they had developed in the sense that what they developed was an infinite set of inequalities. No no. People usually work with equality. Plus two equals four. How did how did people respond to that. Well they responded to the do the equations that they're useless absolutely useless. However there was a another aspect to this and that and this was Thoreau's realization that if you look at the molecule to say this is a molecule and what you're interested in is in the position of the set of that atom by. Atom. And let's say you have this many atoms six atoms the positions can be determined by three numbers next wave to see in the box however the number of x ray data that you get is not six pieces of data. Or rather it would be 18 pieces of data not 18 pieces of data but maybe 500 pieces of data. And so there is a bend over determining see based on those molecules. Right. Yes. Any I. Say. Any crystal that scatters reasonably well. We'll have much more pieces of data that you can actually measure. Then the number of unknowns that you're looking for. I looked at his various inequalities and they ranged from simple ones to very complicated ones. And I took some of the simpler ones and I was trying to figure out how to use the inequalities and how to approximate them. So something I could start out with something that was equal. And obviously the spots that diffraction spots that one of things actually differentiate experiment vary in intensity from barely being visible or even not being there when you look at the spot where something should be up to being very strong. So what would happen if I would take just the very strong reflections and use them as equalities and that did indeed work. And because what I could do is to start off with equalities now all of them didn't make sense. If someone disagreed but most of them meets arrive at a electron density map for is. Indeed. What. These approximations that showed me a piece of this stuff. Knowing the piece of the structure I could then go on to. Other inequality relationships and set them out basically. Yes. Well this is a rather crude explanation of a somewhat crude process. Good I set up the procedure as to how to go about picking. Out which reflections you want to start with. Which ones you'll get your approximate answer from. Which ones then how to use this data. For bootstrapping procedures right. You were able to get enough information that then you could extrapolate on. And so how did people respond to that since you were actually able to prove that at work. Well. First of all. Oh an accident. But then I started publishing papers you see. People were getting x ray diffraction results and simple relatively simple molecules. And then by trial and error and other. Devious means they were. Eventually able to get. A lot of the structures. But. To tell you. What it looks like people would get a page indeed we forgetting one or two structures over a period of time and they would they said dissertation. Yes I was publishing papers you know since. We're. On structures that were. Much more complicated. And so I mean. Interest suddenly grew. It didn't grow too fast at first though because. I did most of these things manually. And at the same time. Instrumentation was being developed. So that the extra intensities could be read. And chronically rather than to. Put him on film. My right estimate wouldn't how bad spot was. Also so computers as you know were being developed and so things that. Would take me. A long time to do could be done in an hour or so and I took back. That was fast that basically the machine could do it for you as opposed to you doing it counting and calculating it yourself. And so it wasn't until and then. People were. Became quite. Interested in writing computer programs to do to computerize. The procedures said I think. That and by the end of the 19th by the end of the 1960s. There were quite a few laboratories that suddenly. Used all of the new inventions a and. The. The programs the procedures that had developed based of course on. The work that Jerome. My. Third Pokemon did and the field just exploded and they still use it today. Oh yes. Yes but so routinely that. Young people don't even know where it comes from. The program for this you put your crystal here. Push a button push a button and all that sort of thing. Do you think that that not realizing where things come come from. Kind of like the fact they don't see it contextually maybe or don't see the history of it. Does that cause a problem for research do you think. Yes or no. What doesn't cause a problem let's say is that somebody is trying to develop a drug and in developing the drug. There are many atoms and there are things I should say to the mountain to the molecule was pretty good but not complete. And so they keep changing pieces of the molecule and it a lot of the drug companies just do using this routine variable to grow the crystals that put the crystals through. The. Other routine and crystal structure analysis process. Now we could see where the atoms are in the good molecules and where they are. In the mountains at work. It worked so well my good ideas as to how to change the chemistry around so. That's very good. It doesn't really matter if you know. They only care about that one thing. Yes. So it has become a tool in many processes where. You can get the structures of all kinds of intermediates and that many sequencing most maybe most brain chemistry departments now would. Be tied to mental crystal like for a person who's trained to do these things and you do such checks. But on the other hand it is too bad that a number of students no young people. Have. Very little conception of the ideas that went into solving this problem both from the theoretical point of view and the practical point. And. I would think. Would be helpful if they knew about such things so that these kinds of thought processes could be applied. To. Right. Exactly. I have to change tacks a little bit here but at the same time you're developing all that she also having three children. And so. I have to ask. How did you do that again. We were quite fortunate in our tiny after World War 2. You may know. That there was a large influx of people into cities from the country. And this also happened around the. Washington area and there were a lot of grandmothers who didn't want to stay on the farm in the mountains. They didn't want to live with their children in the city. They wanted to be independent like their daughters were. And so. It was rather easy to hire a. Housekeeper who would look after the house more or less. Cooking more or less but. Maybe. Look after the children. We faced their children by. Roughly five years apart so that helped. Also as a housekeeper one baby at a time one of your daughters have all ended up being scientists too. Yes. And I'm curious to know if you and your husband incur I'm assuming you encourage that I suppose we encourage that in the sense that in the summertime whenever we would travel to meetings. International movies international meetings their. Families. And. They got to know of the many of the scientists they did know where famous people. But I just thought of them as people first. Yes. In fact when our oldest daughter went off to college. And she was assigned textbooks written as a people. I never expected that. No they could see what our. Life was like. Cause the oldest daughter. For a while. Toyed with becoming a pianist. But then she decided that she didn't like the hours and hours of practice that a good friend of hers in high school had to do who was getting fame an early age for me to play with time and the chemistry. I asked the second one. Why did you go into chemistry. She says Oh chemists travel all over the world so that was her reasoning. And the third is a geologist which in some ways is a lot along the way and related to your work as well in some sense. Yes. At the moment she is bringing up. Two children. She. Was at the Natural History Museum. Do you think that their experiences were a lot different from yours in science. Their experiences were a lot different than trying to get child care. It was much more difficult. The oldest one had an easier time I think because she was a long island. And aside from Brookhaven National Laboratory. And the few banks in the school system and hospital too there was just very little for women to do outside the home. And so. It was much easier to. Find women who had set up your free schools for children or even took the. Young children into their own home. Do you think that that's kind of one of the problems or issues that women face in science is that their childbearing years. A lot of times are at that same time when the majority of male scientists or even women scientists are doing the bulk of their research. Yes yes that is that is a very definite problem. And in my case I said since it was not too difficult to get very nice ladies who acted as grandmothers and looked at the children. That I don't think even they are we felt deprived because I spent so much time with my science youngest daughter now. Even having problems finding. A reasonable nursery school Steve take the youngest child to. It's an ongoing issue unfortunately. Yes. Well what I have to ask this to what did you have any female mentors or role models that you considered when you were starting out or as you went through your research career. Oh there weren't any at the university. There was a woman professor in astronomy that was no problem. Right. I don't think I had any female. Instructors professors along the way and. So on rare occasions there was some contact with. Women who would come and give a lecture in chemistry. I read the book on Marie Curie came out to just about that time. Actually. He took the article. Who wrote the book. Right. She was not a scientist. Yeah that's right. Very talented too. Yes. But no just I have worked at me as you went through your career did you see the numbers growing. Yes of course. But they they grew slowly in the sense that in my contemporaries there were quite a number of women who in my view. In my field. Crystallography and they never had a real get up until they got much older. Most of them were able to survive because they had a husband who had grants and. They were. One of the members of his working group as opposed to having their own yes position. And there were not too many women I had the Nobel Prize but Dorothy Hatch didn't have a real job until after she got the Nobel Prize. Maria Gilbert Meyer didn't have a real job until after she got the Nobel Prize. So universities and other institutions were very slow in hiring women. Oh the women's colleges did of course but most of the women's colleges were not that well equipped for know large research project. So that didn't prevent the women from participating in research projects but it was usually at other institutions and it was more of their emphasis was supposed to be more on teaching. I think the nice applause Yeah I suppose so. And I think they probably had problems getting laboratories and lab space which seems to be a continual problem. Would you say in the 70s 80s and 90s. Because I know the women chemists committee of the American Chemical Society has been much more active in this. So that's been a big change too. Yes there has been and a large number of the universities that I go to work often give lectures at women on the teaching staff. Usually the younger end. But to work their way up they'll get there eventually. Why do I have to ask you've won a lot of awards. And so I have to ask what. What's your favorite one or what meant the most to you since I can't ask about everyone. Too many. Well I think the first one is always an event. The first one in fact. I have a medal for. It was the Federal Women's Award. And that was funded by Woodward. When would you know it was a department store of an elegant department store in the Washington area until it was bankrupt. No but it was one of my favorite department stores for its elegance I couldn't always afford to buy things they had and I don't know how this came about. They had a woman vice president their staff and she said aside from the telephone company and the department store the government had the most women employees in the Washington area and somehow or other she managed to set up awards for women and the government. Wasn't. Limited to the Washington area. And every year there would be 0 6 or 7. And the fields would. Vary economics engineering chemistry but chemistry. And so day I won that moon and that was very exciting. One of the big hotels park was named has changed several times. So it's kind of the recognition was important. I meant a lot. Yes. I've heard that frequently that revenue recognition is important especially for a lot of times you're working alone as the only female. Yes. So these are awards continued for quite a number of years. I got one of the later ones and then this woman got that Vice President. Old enough to have to retire from. Or do. You know sort of. And the award was dropped. I'm sorry to hear that. Yes I was also because it was one of the few awards that the women despite getting I mean really quite excited when I got an honorary degree from the University of Athens Greece. And how did that come about. I think it came about because a professor and current professor at the University of theoretician became interested in the ideas that led to the solution of the face problem. As it's referred to in the interest the laboratory his wife works in Athens as a scientist crystallized before. In one of the it could be the Department of Agriculture or a Department of Agriculture institutions and somehow or other the two of them were able to promote us. It would seem an interesting event. It was timed to. Occur immediately after an international meeting in. Crystallography was held in Athens and so many of the people who were at the. Ceremony. Really carried out and told the ancient robes and diplomas or notes in ancient Greek cooch. Very few people know what they say. We also got a translation from a Greek scholar. Well I have and this is really kind of a personal question and this is your I want your perspective on this. We've contacted a number of women crystallography from the post-war period and they do not see themselves as chemist or at least the responses I've gotten say oh I don't know why I'm not a chemist and I was just wondering if you would know why that women who specialized in crystallography would think that way well crystallography encompasses many different fields. When there is a crystal demographic meeting. Mineralogy is the metals are just the inorganic chemists the physicists of protein people and so chemistry is not the central right family because the same procedures are used of course chemicals but. The training and the culture around their own fields is quite different than that of a chemist. Even though chemistry is usually a component it's not that maybe the mindset. That's correct. Yes. I'm a neurologist might think about to which atoms are attached which can be important for. But. It doesn't matter what some. Organic chemical is. I don't know who you have spoken to but you may have spoken to a. Woman Who. Whose primary interests or otherwise right. Their mindset. They see themselves as more of a physicist than something else. Well here's a just about a final question. Where do you envision chemistry research in the new millennium or. From here on out. I know isn't that a broad question. Yes. Well. From my vantage point here and I should say the chemistry department at the Naval Research. We've been always the laboratory for the structure of matter and so our interests have diverged. Where do you see that particular area of research going. Well at the moment it seems to be going in two directions. One is the macro molecular level. Of course the protein work and now. The even larger molecules and combinations of proteins and how they interact with each other or and so a man could almost call it macro biology. The other is actually the opposite direction. The Nano chemistry where you have just a very few our pupils forming to. Your various very very thin two beetles that do all kinds of things and so each one of these fields. These areas depend upon not only chemistry and biology and. Biochemistry and physics and in the other direction electronics and chemistry as well as the other sciences are becoming more and is becoming more and more merged. So it doesn't stand alone as much anymore. Yes. What do you think the results of this research will be. Well I think. The one. The objectives of course to try to understand more about the human body and. How to treat its ailments and so forth. So. That will probably be living if not longer at least more comfortably at the other end. It's going to result in all sorts of instruments. Gadgets don't have any idea yet but we will eventually. Yes. Yes. Yes. I think that people who are interested in science and and so forth are very inventive people like. We have to stay in close is there anything else that any other experience that you would like to share that in regards to your life and career or should have had this question yesterday about it. But the top of my head. When it comes to students I think your students act to try to learn as much as possible not in a very narrow field but to expand their knowledge to if they're going to be scientists let's say to the other scientists they at least have a nodding acquaintance with what is happening so they know what that all fits together. Yes and other than that I've always found my work very fascinating. I was interested in it. I don't want to stop. That's a good thing. I've had the opportunity to continue it. I'm pleased to people still reading my papers rather and I'm not surprised. Well thank you very very much. 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