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Right. I think it was not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=127.2,132.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for the Peace Corps. The people at that time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=132.9,135.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there was no kindergarten school staff. 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I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=538.54,543.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't actually show anything about it at the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=544.45,547.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"university because, as I said, I wanted to get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=547.99,550.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"married and he moved to England and I didn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=550.24,555.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really do anything to get away. Now, what year did","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=555.07,557.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you move to England? Where away when? 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I'm thirty nine to forty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=570.82,574.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"six hour. So you spent lot during the war. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=574.06,576.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were in Ireland. I think the war was that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=576.76,579.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"difficult to be in Ireland and to watch what was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=579.19,581.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going on. Right. Of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=581.86,586.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as I said, I was out of it. 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I mean, of course he knew but that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=596.05,599.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, in a way, you know what it is that it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=601.7,606.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was in England during that time, you know, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=606.26,609.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't do anything academically. You were just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=609.68,613.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being a wife. Yeah, because my husband did that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=613.1,617.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and so on, but said, you know, the second part is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=617.78,620.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that, yes, it really had nothing at all to do with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=620.77,623.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this by the time. And then in 1939 when the is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=624.02,629.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the out of office. So he, of course, didn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=632.27,636.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go back and stayed in England until the demands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=636.32,641.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And my parents also were fortunate to be able to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=641.66,644.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get out to go to France and then to the United","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972#t=644.24,647.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158972/transcript/36775/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"States in 1939. 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But anyway, this is Tanya Sandesh vouchered Iowa State University, and this is an interview with Dr. Dean Aspendale. And we like to tell me a little bit about where you were born and your childhood. I was born in Vienna, Austria, and I'm an only child of a what you would probably call an upper middle class happy family. And when we had I was. But he very often told me that because and Garden and as most of my generation didn't know much about financial matters, my father was a successful businessman. He was a founder of the and the first president of the U.N., Playfair, the mother of Italian Jewish origin, but came to Vienna when she was only four years old. I understand that she was a very accomplished pianist as a young girl, but then she got married. She did not pursue any serious. Yes, it was more or less at that time, I think. Yes, I think it was to remember very much about that early childhood. I know with adolescence and whatever it was. And I love what they did with the post-war years, blah, blah, blah. And of course. Right. And they particular in Austria, underwent a lot of changes during that time. And not coeducation know, I was going to ask, where did you go to school, you mean? Yes, I did not until I got married. I mean, well, my early schooling, I mean, university. But what was it, a German school or. Excuse me, was an OK. OK, yes. Yes. And, you know, I mean, it was somewhat different not only from what you have in the United States, but also what was in Austria now. Right. I think it was not for the Peace Corps. The people at that time, there was no kindergarten school staff. These days, you know, I went to public elementary schools from six to seven years old and then there was some sort of entrance exam or something like that to go to the typical what was called gymnasium, you know, which is frankly, like your high school. I get from ten to 18. It's I mean, high schools, I should mention, you know, so high school in some places. You think it could go to high school. It's not OK to attend university in German. So I went to what is called gymnasium in Europe, in Germany and Austria and so on, and which was more or less humanistic type, you know, I mean, more more and things like that. Not much. Say, did you like but you still like school. I love all that, but more or less all I know is that I really liked going to school all the time, but I think probably I like to be silly. I was upset because I didn't have any particular favorite subject. Oh, you did? I would think I wanted to become that. I thought I to read or something like. So you didn't set up you didn't have a particular love for science. It was just you loved everything at that time and not in that sense at all. Happy to comply with French and English at the time. And I was really not interested in science. I didn't know anything about science at that time. You know, if anything, you go with your managers or meetings or something like that. I say this is the climate sort of develop and the economic situation in Austria deteriorate Bryant miserably. We can't see the signs as it is unless you know something that you could do anywhere or not, not based on the German language or law. Because, of course, that what in, you know, Europe. In Australia. So at that time, the less not only I, but some of my friends also gravitated to what they said for that reason, morally. And actually, I have to say that in my time at least, that side was thought very badly. It's always good, at least chemistry and physics, mathematics and languages and to some extent would be quite natural history, geology and botany and also history and geography that way. Physics and chemistry, they're very, very bad. Why do you think that was? I don't know why. I think one of the things that the teachers have to begin with and another reason must have been that it wasn't considered, you know, really as important as it is now. But I don't really. Well, I don't think this is because it was Europe. I think it has to do with the right, you know, I mean, I don't know. But in any case, this may be one of the reasons why I wasn't interested in science, particularly at the time, because my science courses are really not on the same level as space, as language, a mass hysteria or geography or anything like that. Now, since you're a teenager during the 30s, did you notice the change in climate? I mean, did it impact on you at all? In fact, I think he was, of course, a teenager. Is that right? Got into Germany and most of us at the time said, oh, well, you know, this is not things that it would last as long as it did. There was all this anti-Semitism in Austria. I mean, your question as far better to go that I would love, but he didn't particularly impact on me. I mean, that's pretty well off and at school. I didn't see anything. There are some people who are interested in politics on either side, whichever, but I don't think it really impacted on me at the time. I mean, I was as I said, I was only 16 in 1933 and 50 years old, but it certainly did. Yes. I mean, there's no question that there were some of the people at school who were definitely in favor of it then that there's no question about that. How did your parents react to it? I had very much and I'm assuming they had big plans for you to go to school, to university. I did. Let me put it that the audience in me, generally speaking, you know, to go down, to go to school and, you know, to be good at the subjects, let's see, rather than I don't know anything like that, but not specifically designed. So it didn't matter to them just as long as you were educated. I have never said yes. And I said I didn't really have any special subjects like that. But the other thing is that I met my future husband when I was only 16. I never knew any other boy I don't want. And he was eight years older than I was a hot prospect in Austria at the time. I mean, apart from politics of economic and probably connected in some way, you know, I think politics, you know, maybe wouldn't have happened today if the economics hadn't been that bad idea. And therefore, he decided to go to lunch and then at that time as a representative for various Austrian textile in his house and so on. And I was very sensitive about it. And when I did get married, I essentially didn't go to school for about four years. I had him before we got married, acidizing maturer, because like I said, and I did take some courses which led to what was his, I guess you would call them secret exams or whatever in English and French. He said, I would have allowed me to teach the languages at some schools and so on. And I didn't consider chemistry, but I think I even did. I didn't actually show anything about it at the university because, as I said, I wanted to get married and he moved to England and I didn't really do anything to get away. Now, what year did you move to England? Where away when? Oh, from the time I got married off the dogs from 1976 to 1939. Again in Ireland. Uh huh. I'm thirty nine to forty six hour. So you spent lot during the war. You were in Ireland. I think the war was that difficult to be in Ireland and to watch what was going on. Right. Of course, as I said, I was out of it. I was very, very fortunate because, well, personally, nothing happened to me. I mean, of course he knew but that. Actually, in a way, you know what it is that it was in England during that time, you know, I didn't do anything academically. You were just being a wife. Yeah, because my husband did that and so on, but said, you know, the second part is that, yes, it really had nothing at all to do with this by the time. And then in 1939 when the is with the out of office. So he, of course, didn't go back and stayed in England until the demands. And my parents also were fortunate to be able to get out to go to France and then to the United States in 1939. Then war broke out the school to Ireland, which originally he wanted to go with me, said, I mean, this is just several things, sort of it looks like war would be breaking out. And he said, well, then that is that's because he said it's sort of a funny story in a sense, because you had to put up some that got up and I was very bad at that sort of thing. And then he saw some movie, which was quite like the short film, and he decided, oh, let's go to Ireland. And then does or whether I do, I've got. So we stayed in Ireland and I then found out that my husband got a job a day at the designer of knitwear in a factory there. And I was giving some language lessons and I had a lot of time on my hands, as a matter of fact, that I found out that there are some evening courses given by the University of Ireland in chemistry. And that really got me started. And what was the what were the what intrigued you about it? I mean, was there something that really got there? I wasn't particularly interested at the time. I got there mostly because I had a lot of time on that, because there was a lot of fuel available. It was what was at home. And I had once I got there, I really I don't know what is the I suppose the whole thing's the logical way that things got together. And I really lasted right from the beginning. It was a very small course, which means that you've got some individual attention. And I also was fortunate in that, you know, and I got a few medals at the time. I mean, you know, first prize or whatever it was, it was for the German organic chemistry in organic chemistry, which, of course, encouraged me to buy. And well, I mean, it was on a very elementary level, of course, nothing, you know, very, very great. But I just enjoyed it. And I did very, very much interested in it, but not at that time, particularly if it gets any one branch. You just you were intrigued with the whole concept of absolute you know, what comes out of the you know, the scale projects and from, you know, how you figured out what they said then you did you figured out what experiments to do, you know, things like that. But as you said, the whole concept rather than any specific things or anything like that. And when I did get his diploma of chemical technology, which is more or less equivalent to a basically except that it is more or less is a little more specific, actually, but that doesn't seem to be, as you would have more as a subject as well. And you did mainly chemistry. That's right. OK, at that time, all the time. And at that time it was not biochemistry, it was just mean chemistry interested. You know, I that tried to be a certain subject of death specifically since I was in Ireland, you know, about these and I see, you know, stuff like that. But this is the author of this book. But I mean, but I would say that was really the first exposure to say specifically for chemistry. And I was asked to do some this sort of chemistry at that time. How long did it take you to do your degree? Were you going at night through the war after all of this? Is it huh? And what about the this comes from the university, from the left of University of Ireland, which had branches in Dublin, Cork in Gaza. And I was in. However, the courses is actually in a sort of a technical high school. You know, I mean, geographically, not at the university. Oh, I see. OK. And so how did your husband do it? Was your husband supportive? Of course, but he was not a scientist. Now he had a job then, as I said, as a designer of that, you know, you know, in a company in a fairly large company. And he also took various courses at MIT but said that mostly in junior high and things like that. And because I said, you know, it's sorry, but it was really college, you know, that happened at the time, although I was neutral, you really didn't suffer from anything during or there was a shortage of coal or whatever at all you had was that he couldn't really decide during the day. I spent most of my time at the public library. But, you know, I mean, I saw, you know, all the time you wouldn't have liked to come to the United States. My parents and also my husband's parents had already come to the United States just before them, before America joined the war. And had they gone to New York City, my parents had his parents in San Francisco, where he used to be simply that the boat that they came across, my parents and other sort of my parents there in France. And then, you know, they had some problems, but eventually got to the United, to the New York, his parents, the boat that became essentially the Panama Canal and landed in San Francisco. But then this job finally said the problem was that you had to have, of course, transportation secretary had an affidavit and you never able to get both of them at the same time until 1945, when the European portion of the war was over or Jose American was not. And this was June 45 that he signed the legislation. In the meantime, my father had died very young of the CIA in 1945, and he is the mother who was here. And I went through the joint committee. I found out at that time that he came to town. I did not know because you say in your letter I said, oh, yes, my apologies are OK. And I found out that he was looking for an assistant, but at the time was soon. And he was in Woods Hole for the summer. And of course I couldn't or wouldn't wait. So I got the job as a paid factory in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and was very well received. After all, I didn't have you know, I only had some undergrad education, particularly in Britain. But the good thing was that during that time, a close friend of mine told me that it was possible to get to go to the university at night and to take the courses for Masters of the Sea at night. And of course, I found out that my mother, who was a professor of chemistry at Brooklyn and who was very, very well known also, you know, he was right. There was a professor at I went there and I enrolled for my master's degree at the Polytechnic Institute, Brooklyn. And I was very anxious, of course, to get some sort of degree because I, I had been arrested. Nobody in the United States knew what it was that actually. And it's all just difficult to compare that this in some ways it's better. I mean, more advanced and other businesses on, you know, going to recognize my undergraduate degree like this. And I started to take courses in the evening to my masters. And my husband was very, very supportive at all times. And my mother. Who misses us, even though she didn't have a job during the day, he took care of, you know, whatever had to be taken care of in my very small household, so I was able to devote essentially, you know, my most or all of my time to my studies. And I got my master's degrees. And in 1947, by the time you came to the United States, had you already decided to go for graduate degrees? I just kind of interested you. I did. No, actually, no. I think I decided when I did during the time that I had this job in of that, you know, because obviously this is a tough call. All I've got of man who was supposed to be cautious in the evening. And really, I mean, yeah, he sort of told me about all that. And that is when I decided that I definitely wanted to go on, because, of course, I realized that whatever I did know about chemistry was not very much like that elementary level. And so what did you focus on for your Masters in that time? Oh, well, I should say that I didn't at all, but that's part of what he said. No, back to back from that. He had spent the summer in Utah and interviewed me and offered me a job and I resigned from the factory. And then to that point and that, of course, was the best thing I ever did in my life. And as I indicated in this, he was a wonderful mentor and good. And he also, of course, influenced my choice of what I you know, I mean, what a subject that would force you to see as somebody who had to pay for your master's or you had to be organic and inorganic and analytical and one other at that time. I think this is an example of my biochemistry nemesis for my masters, but I already took some other courses at the same time and he allowed me to do the research for my master's thesis during my investing hours. That was very so that's very supportive of me. And he was, of course, very well known already at the time. And he was consistent in the kind of cooperation that he had in laboratory entities that I was employed. I mean, I was employed as his assistant, really. So it was entirely up to him. What I was doing was during my working hours. And, of course, you know, I really was his assistant in every sense. I did this correspondence that I arrange his appointments and everything, but he was a great mentor. I mean, there's no question about it. He took it very, very I mean, he's was interested in me for I don't know why, but he would think that there was some potential there. And he not only helps me and sort of, you know, introduced me to those things. He told me what he then told to think about the problems that he wanted to do research in. And he really participated in Corsetti early stage in my career. And he saw the excitement and the rewards. I was there. I felt so optimistic as opposed to just taking a class. He really helped you to learn how to think and just, you know, go inside. And, you know, I mean, many people at these positions don't really do very much. And he really let me do things that I thought he might be doing, but he wasn't necessarily there. I mean, he would tell me how to do it and obviously correct. And, you know, he said he would do. And in addition to that, just to me also, they believed he knew a lot of people who knew him and met a very large number of very prominent researchers, both past and future Nobel Prize winner and who had immigrated from Germany and visitors and so on. So that really I was exposed to a lot of. I would be the best the field, which I'm sure is a job at the time, and so had you already decided to go for a PhD or that time? I had decided to go at least one semester and then I would say yes during that time, which was from 45 to 49, which was undoubtedly the most important part that would, you know, decide said whatever happened afterwards. And that was the time I was same. And as I said, they got their master's degree was a project that was entirely supported by him. He was, of course, best known for his carbohydrate research. And they might be the subject of my master's thesis, which was proposed and supervised by him, although officially he was not made, you know, officially regulated under the professor of organic chemistry at Brooklyn Poly Naval Facility. But he said he knew about any of those events and he was quite happy to let his supervisor. And he did. And he was the subject of the Renaissance, which was then something about derivatives of carbohydrates. And I published my first paper, although it's obviously very unusual also in the Office of Chemistry. And I also present to the of the American Chemical Society meeting in New York that said, oh, how was that? I said, you know, he was a great believer, like most of the European chemists of the time were in. So we're doing some experiments, you know, I mean, not just us by talking, but they're actually doing some experiments. They would do it on the paper that I presented at the American Cancer Society that had also actually did some, you know, some types of experiments at the time, which was sort of a little bit abusive. I think that's exactly. What was the response to your paper and your article? I think it was very good. It got mixed up in the Kennedy meeting and he well, I think it was very good, really. I guess my answer was, of course, he was very, very interested in all aspects of carbohydrate chemistry then probably I mean, he was really, of course, entirely his the subject matter was entirely selected by him. But I think some of the stuff that I was a co-author on a number of papers at that time, which I don't know whether you have that is the public that he had said, yes, I would like to have that as well to say from New York at that time, it was all that more or less connected, you know, the derivatives and things like that. And also this was the case as they discussed that at that time, though, I mean, much of what was initially thought that turned out not to be so. But he was interested that as he probably saw several of these papers and so on, of course, they had said, you know, this is something I would very much like to have that, you know, what was that about? I I mean, it really was, I guess, some of the depth, of course. But at that time, I was not really equipped to to devise their own problems. So I think there are things that you wanted to learn about or explore. They were his topics more than yours. But he's the one that really got you interested in the biochemistry area. You know, I. Said that if you have an officer said that that would be about the best use of force and because he's a lot like propaganda's physiologically and then started to assess the English biochemist again out, and he was as if he was the one who got the impression that. Are you nothing about that? I just thought that. I mean and then I mean, I said at that time it was me. There was some something about amino acids. I said that time. And there is like in fact, you got some tests of that time about separating them from these amino acids. You know, they seem to be formed. And that message is no longer the NDIS that I got a on that. This is something that I did. It was very encouraging for your. No question about that. Did you see what was, of course, very close to the piece that he believes that he saw that it had the potential of eventually doing some good reset? I think that means a lot, because so many people see that if they do some good reference, Gadhafi probably would not acknowledge, as I said, for somebody to be sort of me and people would introduce me to his, you know, some very prominent people that he knew and he always was so afraid of. The Mendeloff went on an academic research. Connections are so helpful because I made quite a number of people at that time already who lived up the he was a consultant dickhead because I was employed. But he also was a professor at New York University at the time. And I also did, you know, I think sometimes. Yeah, but essentially I was employed by the chemical company. I go, I didn't do any of them, you know, Industria. But in any case, he had said he was worked with him and he did allow me to do a lot of it during the hours before they said, bring me some of these amino acids and peptides and enzymes and something eventually, of course, between me and my kids, he was of the sort of chemistry of amino acids that said that and that. And when that, I would say, got me interested in enzymes, especially on personality and the physicality. And so this is where you're really starting to develop your own ideas and your own. Yeah, to some extent, the idea that the subject matter of chemistry was given to me by Professor Brook entirely by the name of Islam who was interested in sort of chemistry. But I he just said that I started to write with some ideas of my own that. What interested you about enzymes specifically? I mean, what about their function? Well, I don't know. I just said that on the one hand, the way I just, you know, molecules that you could define them, you could absolutely determine exactly how they looked at what to do. And the other had to be something that was very biologically very offensive and that would have an impact on many, many different things. You know, but I must admit that I didn't really know too much about that. I you know, it's just like, oh, this is a device. You never know exactly what you know. It's a combination of the self. And if you are exposed to and what you said that, you know, you can know what you are allowed to do and what you would like to do it. So I didn't know too much then. Then you see in forty nine hours after I got my degree, I don't remember why, but ever since I was no longer part, I could no longer keep that sort of position in the chemist. I can't remember exactly by but I do know that it was very large. This was a very good letters of recommendation that night that we drank from the. At the time that I was able to assess your position at Columbia University as a research associate in the disappearance of who you know, because you are actually about dementia, more in touch with me. And he said I had lunch with him at least once a week. And his advice and that sort of knowledge, you know, I mean, he knew everything that had been done in the past that I could always comment asked him on. But, of course, very, very valuable to me after when I no longer work for him. And when the job, which I did at Columbia at the time in 1949, was as a chemist on a team which was headed by a surgeon, Dr. House, and a microbiologist by the name of McGlennon. And what had happened is that the McGlennon had brought a collection of agents who he had seen he was English and had been in the war and had over microbiology and had brought. This is easy to say, of course, his political with house that I had to say and then for the people of what I think is really how I got interested in what became probably the single best known for me, that is a simple idea. And then the first thing that we did when I was it was go to this is easy to say and analyze them for which one would be the best one possible for minimum simplicity and maximum activity for advertisements and the specific CALATRAVA'S activities. And of course, I was able to develop that. And at that time he said to me just this time that I was able to model that all, you know, he got out my own research right away what to do, what would be good on the project. Change was not of my own choosing, but I, I was at that time, it was to you know, they devised the various experiments and figure out where you wanted to go and try to determine which of those things could be further developed. That would be the best to do to get the advantage of millions of physicians to understand how to best grow them. You know that there are, of course, materials. And so one of the things that are very important to figure out is what would be the best medium to get all the facts in order to produce that enzyme, which, of course, both of these looks like, I think because there are lots of possibilities, not only of the other ingredients, but also their mountains, the relative small amounts and things like that. And then once you had got to that point, how to purify them. And you know what you're getting when you try to get a basin like that. Presidium is a lot of different enzymes. And of course, what we wanted to do is get the maximum that the one you're interested in collaborating with and the minimum of the other. And then and and how did you decide to do that? Well, I suppose the idea that I mean, you know. No, not entirely. I mean, you do try to figure it out a little bit, of course. But essentially, once you think something good that you get together. And that is, of course, you know what really interests me all along to have some hypotheses why you think if you have something to do right up, I guess I am very happy do that. Did you enjoy something? Did you enjoy working on it with a team? Yes, to some extent I did. But it sounds like you were off on your own, too. I was getting my dog. Yes. I don't think that at that time, too. But it was a team in name only. No, I wasn't involved because he said, well, let's see during that time what said. And then again, this enzyme was incorporated into some ointment and then somebody else in the team would use some animal experiments and see that this is really deficit, then, you know, for the right reason. I didn't do that. But of course, it was probably a good outcome. Right, because they're testing your right. That's. You know, all this was done under a grant from the army that I have to give given to the surgeon, not me. And I thought that he and his goal, it was to go to Washington to say the AMA was not there. But the army insisted, you know, that if you had to go there several times and saw the report on the progress that was moving all the updates on and I mean, I was a chemist on the project, of course, the major person said, again, the lack of knowledge is extremely important. But I was sort of the person who would decide not to go see the kids like that and also how to test for the enzyme activity, you know. Right. And obviously, the Army had a vested interest in this. I mean, yeah, he was also when I personally did that sort of stuff. But one of the things that was done a lot of the time was to isolate ointment bases in this, you know, which one would be the best. I mean, once I had said that it was incorporated into a different orphanage back then, but, you know, put them into place. Most of this is what antibiotic it could be associated, used and things like that. And, of course, you know, there was a team that said you are working on the same thing. You are links in a part, but not necessarily working closely. Right. You had your own separate areas that all work together. Yeah, I was sort of alone. But after that, I had some, you know, assistants and technicians over there and I had them some. But we said one in particular was really very, very good. And so I think the medical school had gone and had a lot in the security case of the enzyme and I on me. But it was very much very sensitive, very, very difficult. How did you balance that with your home life? Well, no problem. At that time, my mother was still alive, and as I said, she took care of I didn't do anything now that, you know, makes a difference. And my husband was all just very, very supportive. And actually, at that time, it was easier to balance my, you know, home life and so on. When I started going to school, of course, when I was in school, it was always easy. But now, I mean, this is a decent job. So I just figured I'd actually maybe not just the very beginning of my career, but as you got on, I did go to many lessons all over the though my husband was usually able to either come with me or to join me later. And then it's like vacations or something like that to it. And, you know, it really helps out there that we both enjoy traveling very much and leave it to me to go. I actually did go to a lot of places, you know, it's a nice little Congresses and things like that. Maybe not at the very beginning. But, you know, a little later on when I was a little, you know, more advanced in my career, I well, at the beginning, also at the beginning, it was like a plan to secure something like that. But after work, because euro. So I really I must say that I did not have a problem, more or less had it all, but I realized that not having any children makes a lot of difference. But as you know and nowadays I discuss people who deserve to have children and I seem to be able to balance it all responsibly. Yes, I think it's important that yes, I think that is where you are in. You know, one of the questions, of course, about these woman. Now, you see, I was the first woman to go see it. I said at the Polytechnic Institute of. Resistance against the U.S., but while I was in school there, I never found any mean, didn't seem to make any difference. There was a woman, huh? Most of the men there, they are sort of the FBI, not Mossad. But maybe I was a little older. I was older, too, of course. And that probably made a difference. And do you think that maybe part of that was the impact of the war, too? Yeah, we might say that now. When I got to Columbia, there are too many women, but some of them are very prominent but sad. You did you ask about that at the time, who was, of course, very well known and I was just having a surgery that was Daddy, you know, good said woman didn't have any friends. So but on the whole, was there not too many women? Did you form a little bit of a network with the few women that were there? No, not at all. People just live their own lives and did their own jobs. And I was very conscious of my woman. And I know that many of my friends see I'm sort of because I don't know, I'd be lying, but I really did. I don't I didn't see anything like that. The only thing that I must see, and I'm sure of that, is that I would have been promoted sooner. And that is there's no question about that, because somehow that's all I did. And so important a woman, you know, why why would she want to be you know, what difference does it make then? An assistant professor, an associate professor or whatever? I was an assistant professor for a very, very long time. When you became an assistant professor, did you go with a tenure track or they just kind of left you there? I think what I said was exactly the problem. I had a very, very last night. You could tell. You're correct. Yes, correct. But as long as you're just an assistant professor, you don't just have to throw you out without cause. Right. Right. Yes. Well, I just said I didn't become a professor when you ask me about any then. But but I. I would say there were probably to a decision was I didn't become an assistant professor in biochemistry, but they did not give me any other choice. And at that time, which was way about I think the best sixty nine or so, I was already there for about ten years. I wasn't as good as a biochemistry, but I had McGlennon that had some problems. It was extraordinary that he did on the left. I just had obtained some grants of my own and I had maybe quite a bit of money and he got money enough to pay not only their own salary, but also significantly successful. But I had to say I had my grants at the time where other aspects of colleges and system, especially at the time I said I didn't do a master's degree and I had some I and also Army, Navy, Air Force all my life is relatively small, but overlapping so that I was in a good shape from the point of view of money. But I had this problem about how did you solve that? And at that time, well, I thought of everybody I could possibly and I was at that time, I think in microbiology. But microbiology, I had a problem, you know, had really nothing to do with each it. But he's was there on microbiology, did not want to use the space. So I bought a box and walked around a lot. And I found out that obstetrics and gynecology in the hospital was a cancer hospital associated with Columbia University. Just around the corner, the big board, Columbia University, they had a position and this was what is on the line. That was some cancer research facility. So I think to some extent, well, I didn't say I didn't mean any medicine to lose focus on enzymes, on connective tissue, but now as we head towards a cancer. And at that time, I think, you know, a major objective. I hired an associate CEO with some experience with cancer, but I did not move to a Dallas hospital where I said something. And that actually stayed there for, you know, many, many years, especially from 69 to about 76 or something like that. And at that time, a lot of the doctors were only I did some other research afterwards, not just that very said. But he's lucky to have the hospital family at that time, Columbia, because this is your hospital and it was something the hospital. So then I moved that. But this just said, you know, ahead of time, just as much sleep at that time and then got back to the main campus of Columbia. But in any case, at that time, because in 1969, I did move because I didn't have a real problem. And I was happy to hear that, you know, my sense of humor was there. And as I said, I was there and I had my allergies to some extent, dust the arthritis diseases that had been expected at that time and became interested in the impact on various forms and and inhibitors. And so that's the situation in various types of that is very important. And when I was at that time was sort of a definition that I was completely I mean, I did I did some Conable of these. There is actually a woman who had been in that department before. I was interested in ovarian cancer, but I don't think you could call it that. And I didn't want to address it. So I was able to hire assistance and mean the patient, who incidentally, I mean, usually not by choice, but just it just worked out that way. I did not particularly look, I was you know, I didn't look at it there. You know, I was both pretty color blind. You just cared about getting the research done because I had a major collaboration at that time. Who asked who was it? And some of the people at the time then got justice. Ruth I that also became their main goal was to pick up the pieces to begin beginning, but then they became a huge success. How long did you work on the ovarian cancer issue? I was three, maybe five years, as I said. Yeah, maybe maybe you've done that because I continue to believe that I was already invested in other things and made of course, I was also the same bug at that time. And I said I started out as the hospital. Even though all this was about my appointment was in biochemistry, I never actually had any space. Is a biochemist and. Well, I don't know. I wasn't I was certainly a biochemist, no question about that. But I always was associated in one way with the department that I was interested in aspect of looking. They were chemistry with specific diseases and disease processes and not so much the cure as more. You know how a certain degree is always the most positive. And part of that comes the cure eventually. So but you have to know I, I never knew I was interested to see how wide I mean what was it. The disease. Why this is people developed like the old. But later on, women of emphysema or anything else, rather than how what would be the best medicine? Well, there's so many complex reasons probably why they. When I was over there at the time, I I did get a list of all the cases that I was really overlapping, as I said in this also because I had gone to court and said so at the same time, you work on ovarian cancer. Were you starting to work on getting cancer? And I was working all the time on when I would decide not abortion exactly, but a drug store to the drugstore to get you to do the same. That would essentially abort teachers at a very early age and related issues, I'm assuming. Yeah, I just I was at that time fact that was until I retired associate with the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology. And pretty well, as I said, my problem when one problem was the number two problem was that I couldn't get a promotion. And I was of course, very interested at that time. I already went through a number of Congresses overseas and so on, and I was only an assistant professor at that time. And sort of you know, I said this is the, you know, more than that at the time. And I just couldn't get it. They just refused or they just didn't think it was really important. And again, the other one was in the Department of Biochemistry. One was that there was nobody in the department. I was always in and out the department. The second one was that my face was outside. And I think the main reason, of course, was that it would seem like I peed, in fact, until the very end. All this is my own salary after some grants from that that I might as a grant. And I always had my own family. And so they weren't even really paying you, but they didn't want to give you tenure. We, of course, got the overhead and, you know, and that's right. Amount of overhead or something like that. And they never paid me. I mean, I never got any money to out of Columbia except after this started, you know, the pension, I think the right way to do the exercise intended to incentivize everybody. That's pretty good. Now, did they eventually do they eventually promote you to associate, though? Did they eventually give it to you possibly for biochemist to become professors or, for instance, with the colleges? In my case, because I did it because I had to explain to people had nothing to do with European life and to several other for some other departments. I then that I could get become associate professor and eventually professor emeritus, of course, in a department because not the biochemistry department. So it had to come out so it would come you would be somewhere else, you would not get tenure. I want to tell you what he meant by it said by a pretty good businessman who is allowed to do that. Incidentally, no, you have had a process of outside of private biochemistry are in the ophthalmological department, whom I know. And there have been this office. It is possible now and has been for some time, of course. I was never actually promoted in the Department of Biochemistry beyond that, which means the they didn't give. I do, but not from them. No one time that he would be willing to sign something. 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Well, it sounds like you're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2257.09,2259.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keeping up pretty well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2259.52,2260.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Well, is there anything else that you'd like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2262.72,2265.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to share that you think you've left out? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2265.61,2269.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wouldn't want to do this again. OK. 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OK, well, thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2285.74,2288.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'd be happy to probably longer than you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2288.8,2292.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"expected","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2292.04,2292.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me to send you anything you would like me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=2294.65,2297.52"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36777/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/777/original/AV205424_Mandl_2.vtt?1650911509","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/777/original/AV205424_Mandl_2.vtt?1650911509"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36778","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205424_Mandl_2.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973/transcript/36778/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- And if you didn't, they wouldn't just let you go, I was upset because, oh, I'm sure that all the women who asked about I I didn't have a lot of problems that many of the have, but I did it because people were so it was just about to be paid less than men of the same level of morality. And it was time to give out several women who sort of just over there were going to go to university, did one. And the basis was that they had definitely a lower salary than other people of 15 seconds. So in some ways, you had some you had a lot of freedom. I couldn't have I made a big difference for you, but of course, I did not ask for a salary was completely out of the norm, as you know. But Professor normally would succeed. But I could set their own. I did not discriminate that. But as I said all these years ago, as I said, my grandson, when he visited, I don't honestly think that I I didn't feel any decisions when sometimes you were outside the system because you were paying your own salary except for the tenure issue. And of course, yes, I couldn't completely get that one salaries when the lab space, too, had an impact on, you know, I had some very, very good Leatherface in gynecology as well as possible. As long as, you know, there is a system in New York City Hospital associated with the university and Sellers's hospital and also had a partially funded Columbia. And then at one point, he's a highly political issue as well as a possible donor, but is something you have to go together. But this is a question. You see, the way that this was done was is cost hospitals to the south entirely by Columbia. The doctors that Columbia, the nurses desperately. Oh, and also they have personnel there. You know, I don't know their grievances, but it's on the surface is the same issue is how the hospital is now. But is that did that cause some problems? What caused some problems is in the right. And the people I knew were sort of inside of it. It was just the part that there was A and B, a doctor, of course, at Columbia. Let me tell you that there was doing so. How did you move from ovarian cancer to emphysema? Well, while I was looking for the medicine without looking at them, and then because it's on and at that time it was well known. Well, I don't know how known it was at the time. There is an enzyme inhibitor, which is known as I haven't seen any results, which is deficient in the input memory. Is it genetically evolved putting to together? As you know, most of the disease is not really a genetically right, but it's caused by tobacco or. Yes, but this is more for those people who have involved and usually early age that I used to get it from smoking usually don't get to the silver before, right? Yeah, that's a good one. Usually that's OK. And I you know, that's good idea because of this enzyme and in particular apologizes in the last decade, the losses allegedly to other chronic disease approaches that I was very interested in at the time for reasons that had to do with a cancer within this ovarian cancer. And also we didn't mention that. But at the time, also a very impressive. Authorities stress syndrome. You know, they say there's two or three, right, and they have blockage. And right now it's a known one of the things I saw was that that had something to do with Alaska and that figure was nothing. And what I did find out at that time was that actually, although it's cause I have one to say it is not only fiction, but also Alaska. And it was the fact that this is the last place in which I was very impressive at the time that led to it was that it wasn't as if this is how I'm interested in this issue. I got to put the regime in Alaska before and after that. My major installation in Cuba had to do with Alaska. And when said there's a sense of hesitation and did the ideas side of this issue and that nothing in particular the mechanism by which the Alaska would survive the disease myself, which was really what I did most, you know, the later years of my study, unless I got involved and make a commitment, the Department of Medicine, to know he was in equivalent, he and we decided to apply for a program. So I just grabbed the ones, of course, the people so many different pieces came together to look at a certain point for help. And when he happened to be on a sabbatical in France at the time and I went there, ended up out of a, you know, program and so on. And this is our society is really sure because he's going to apply for this program. So this is me as a investigator and various other physicians and other people. I am glad he's applied. But essentially they just grant him the position as a principal investigator and he got it from something that's interesting. But I don't think there's anything to do with that because I really don't think I think he's got everything to do with just said that he didn't want to see if he is having that type of program. But because there were a number of physical assets and and they thought that a PhD would was a lot of you know, there had to be a lot of not very well because I was ready to test in the lavatory and move and I need to get the blood and tissues or whatever it is from faces and all of this interesting things, I believe, because it was essentially the exact same ground that but they just wanted a doctor in charge. Now, you worked with. Now, it's funny because in your research, you also worked with babies, but you also had a program project right from the beginning. I was not I was never the pieces of that been part of the effort. And yet this is what is necessary sort of those lessons. And I was very, very divisive that it was also a program project and I only had one relatively small has to say, yes, like this is to be right. But and I got the blood of these attacks against the environment of these illnesses because like I said 150 years ago now, or most of the babies that had emphysema, was this the genetic defect? Was that mostly genetic that they had that they had this problem? OK, well, yes, I would say mostly also premature to. That more and more likely, right? So it wasn't entirely the part that I was interested in was more or less a surprise. But then you did the other aspect, too, which would be the impact of tobacco on adults. Much so now. Yes, definitely. Now, as I said, they said, you know, with the baby dresses, as you said, that was very interesting. But it was sort of then it was a separate I mean, it had nothing to do with this. And presumably that is obviously a close relationship because both of these aspects has to do with it. That's right. And I got to the later years of ordinance. It said there are still needs to some extent. We say obstetrics and gynecology because we he said, you know, if this is incompetence, which is, of course, a lot of scepticism that necessarily. But this is clearly elastic. And therefore, you know, I was at least interested in anything to do with connective tissue, as I said in the last in particular. And one of, you know, the people who already had been and visibly at the time, but then got a degree with me, was doing the research specifically, obviously got to be seated at HHS. But, you know, actually, this is interesting that you wouldn't have had I had several students, about 50 excuse me. They already had. And this is a veteran that if you have any reason to. And so they already had other reasons other than that it wasn't just yesterday. Did that make a difference and how you worked with them or how you supervise them? I was said because already I trusted that very much. You know, I think it was pretty good, as I said, that maybe it wasn't so good. I didn't know it was, you know, the but I just thought that the reason I ask is that this is something that's necessary for to rip you off some of the things I said terrible about some of the reasons, but not these cases that people who had clearly committed fraud. It turned out that their supervisor I thought that was it because I thought this is so much time consuming. I'm sorry. I said it was too time to time exactly what they're doing, but it's because they've got to. You resigned. Right. Right. I think it does make a difference that they are probably a little more mature than some others. And I practically all the cases, the people with this I said previously had been working for me before they had their flag technicians or whatever before and then decided she wanted to go for a degree and unless, of course, she was sick, is part of their employment that they were paid. So they gathered just right now in your research where you especially looked at cigarette smoking and tobacco, I, I was of course, everybody knew that if you smoke, you would get a disease and that that was completely independent of the genetics. You know, there's a hereditary was it is it is true that well, maybe if you smoked cigarettes earlier, but if you had to do that to symbolize that, you would get it even if you did. Right. All the people who had the necessary steps if you have survived the quake and you know that have made these types of blood type, and that is still what it is you and I had one of the students is the one who already had to be on a degree. He could do a lot of animal experiments and smoking machines on a Saturday, find out why or how the smoke would bring about, you know, and down next to the land. And one of the things that we did find out, the time that there was an enzyme not discovered today, but another event which is involved in the cross because of the elastic elastic molecule which was damaged or on the slide, I would say by smoking, it was very much involved. And that was one of the very impressive things to be found at the time. I was quite interested. Well, let me put this to six different aspects. That would be different things, chemical or biological, that would lead to MDMA. And in particular, that would lead to that. They make a determination of the elasticity of the lung. And, you know, I mean, there was always a question about Paula Deen. And the last thing I would think that my media interest was undoubtedly those eggs and apologies as well as this and then and different sources of these enzymes. And was there a response to your findings concerning tobacco at all? Yes, there was also at one time some very, very bad, embarrassing type of thing. At some point I had presented a paper and I don't recall which Congress it was. But what I said then I said is and on one of those magazines, papers that are very responsible all together, which is cause this article, which was completely wrong, I think I had never seen something about smoking. Of course, I have never said that article at the time indicated that there would be some sort of a cure. And this article led to a large number of, you know, letters and correspondence and all sorts of things. But I had some form letter printed afterwards. They said to all of them, she said it was, you know, I mean, it was just wrong. So people are contacting you because they said that you had found a cure, some sort of something that there was and that you could use a certain substance and that would make it easier to say, oh, I never had. Was there ever any response from the tobacco companies? Yes, I got it. I had a very good girl. Oh, yes, I know. You said you put it back on it, said it is much maligned. I think I need to institute is not not smoking. And I very, very, very definitely opposed to smoking in all these days. But it is for tobacco. It was very interested in supporting any research that would hold. This could be some causes autism so that we could also be sensitive to. This is one of the things that you did and in particular did in the interest of the paper, you know, some of the others presented in order to to, you know, the Gordon conferences that you have in your head to have their head on. You know, aspects of language is a busy man, Calacanis and so on. And I used to go to those and said, this is a disaster and this is already happening because are especially interested in the fact that the ISO, the inhibitor, which is an elasticity test, would be genetically predisposed people to behave in this endeavor. And so in other that I didn't have to for them for 46 because of course, very good. Next, as I could take the glass, whatever you get it, because you didn't always find things that supported them, though, to the extent that you said, well, is it true that tobacco smoking does cause not only diseases but also diseases? That is very bad for you anyway. That is not only right. There are other causes. Yeah. And not only an. Not every person who smokes that that's right or any other disease doesn't smoke or the like who do not get it right. And on the other hand, you pointed to that as well. But this does not mean that smoking will not make your chances of pneumoconiosis. But, you know, I really didn't have any problems on that. And you and I discussed grab support from them for a very long time. I also I you know, I got support from all sorts of places. I also got support for quite a ways from this life. Then, you know, they said lots of times, you know. And, you know, I mean, all of these people that particularly interested you know, I'm fortunate to be interested in connective tissue. Connective tissue is associated with are always in so many different diseases, you know me, that you can get support from many different sources. Right. Which kind of diversifies your funding. My guess is that he was definitely positive about that, but he was not the only one. Well, that brings me to my next question is, you found at the journal Connective Tissue Research. And how how did you go about doing that and what kind of impact do you think it had? Well, I just got, you know, about a meeting the most of at that time, which was special. But this is something that I think be sure this is something that got me so funded, some international Congresses which had to do with aspects of connective tissue. And the first one I went to was in Scotland, in Edinburgh. And then the second one was in Santa America. And during that one in Sentimentalise. I talked to a lot of other people, especially at that time in Italy and also Germany and France, who were interested to see what I could see, especially at the time. And the last thing I did, they're also interested in the impact of other diseases. I mean, not just it wasn't really just image or that it was a much more broad based. And during that one, I think it was seven. And I'm not absolutely sure right now. I talked to several of the people in Italy and we sort of talked about that, you know, I mean, it was sort of a broad I forget there was no specific German. It would only score that that our that was probably that is either of you know, I mean, both major maybe Dow chemical journals. And for some other people, it was a pretty good one. You know, of course, quite a number of things. And it a time I talked to several of those, you know, foreign and Italian, and he thought it might be a good idea to start getting some sort of service somewhere. Somebody else said he was also interested in both the father and I discussed it with him, except he wanted to be jointly. But then he decided that he wanted to do that. He said he didn't want to do it anymore, but I was very interested. And that corresponded to some of those people. And then I talk to, you know, publishers and priests at that time was quite interested in doing this. And I got on my editorial board, oh, this is a message. That is the message. And I said I was ready to do it because I didn't have international contacts. And, you know, I mean, somebody if you could only be the CEO of the United States, I don't think it would succeed. So, I mean, that's when it's been said because of it, I got invited to certain, you know, meetings in other countries and so on. And I was continuous in contact with many of them. For instance, at one time I was asked to spend a week in Italy. At the laboratory of one of the you know, when I said I saw your board member because he wanted me to, so he doesn't know how to do certain tests and, you know, to do some research suggests that he was interested in the body language. And I said if there's any. And and he said contact, who was a journalist. Was it a good I mean, was it a lot of work? I'm assuming when it was said, especially because of some of those people, it was very, very bad. And I didn't see that he said that was good. I should never, you know, refuse to publish something just because because of the language, as long as the draft was good, you know. Right. I thought then, of course, you know, I mean, as you know, as you study these things, you you just decided to review it. There's a basis was to find the right if you ask for certain types of papers. But this has to do a good deal of that. Says, yes, I was about as I said, oh yes. There are a lot of other things to do more than as a purely local journals that you have so many foreign and also with would advise. On the other hand, you know, I mean, it was probably not take this to something public service. I mean, you get a little more liberal is what we would accept. Then, let's say aside, the they said any of those, but it sounds like you could really draw from a large scholarly base. But I must say, I mean, I just got a lot of it. Got more contributions. Good, good. Well, that's a good problem. But never had a problem of taxes. You know, I did not get that. I just wanted to publish. And as a press really was how to select which ones. One was to publish a song. And I like this to be this would be the fourth. It had to be good research. I and it was discussed that I wouldn't accept it necessarily. But then you also had to decide, you know, what was the relevance to the of it. Yes, I enjoyed it very much. I really did. And I would say that probably, you know, that's something I you know, at the beginning of you that talked about my. But no, there's no death at all. Just cause we to be funded, then I'd be OK then, you know, they can sit down. At the time he didn't it, and he had to go through it all. He says he was everything you read, everything he said. But I said, do you had a little more help? Well, you know, I was up to the UK. I did throughout my career. They said, yes, I was asked to be a reviewer for four other jobs. And that's something that I considered it. I was part of the profession. Do it. Yes, I. But when I mean my own gun, I would not I mean, I always say, look, if you ever saw the man that was to get to reduce the deficit, I do really I don't know how much you pay for everything. And, you know, and I could not accept it, but I really enjoyed it very, very much. Well, here's another question I have since one of the questions that I usually ask is about awards. And so one of the questions I want to ask you is about the Garvin medal. And I think know I was out of it by the time you retired. But did that mean a lot to you for. Oh, no. The Guardian matter. Oh, you hadn't retired, you were still working there. I did that. Did that mean a lot to you to receive that? Right. I know that I have been nominated for the Darwin Medal several times before. Huh. I mean, that I got it was not because I was nominated. I was originally nominated by one of my professors as one of the professors that I had at the public party. And I thought, well, of course, no, that is a difficulty. But I mean, I know that there was no justification for any deep meaning for me because I also had been nominated because of other medals. And somehow, you know, much of it happened at the same time. I got several awards and medals at the same time. But I also got you know, I became dichotic you know, I'm not a polytechnic. You know, a lot of people think, well, I got some sort of a medal for being an alumnus of the Food Party at the same time. And I got the garbage medal, which, of course, is from today's intensive society with very prestigious. And it led to a big break up in some journalists. And, you know, I mean, it is really velocity. And of course, it needs the recognition when all this means a lot to you is recognized by your peers. In other words, you know, some other people think that your work is good. Then you tweeted stillborns and said, well, what year did you retire? I retired when I retired in 1986. OK, and I got the job and medal as it was eighty three. So I thought, OK, so were you still working on emphysema? Mostly. Yes. Yes. At that time I think that was pretty much what I was not against that. No, I was very active. Yeah, absolutely. I was very, very active. The government also did something else to me. This probably has nothing to do. We are talking about. But I had to go to the market people at the American Chemical Society meeting in Seattle and we were thinking, you know, where could we go and spend a week after that? And decided that Mãe, which is I guess I got like this so much that he decided to buy a condo here that got out out to do, but has a lot to do with my life now. And you ended up buying a home there. Correct. And then you and then you travel back and forth. And I only said about what we did then afterwards, two weeks after he retired, which was, of course, the USDA, then four years later, but it had been decided, suspected terrorist plots before, but maybe originally thought we did not just but he's already started that it would be a good place to be safe. But he said it was a good idea. OK, you could have ended up somewhere else. The government has decided to go before. I did. And I thought, you know, investment bankers as would be hired, but he was invited to get up. You know how the that so but in any case, you are definitely thinking about. But what do you when you look at your later career, I mean, do you see a big difference between your earlier career? I mean, I could tell that everybody thought that I would be bored. I was very active as long as I had that. I let you know the baby who might be tempted to go through and buy all these things, but related to the night it's on and people thought it would be for all of us, but not for one minute. I see no reason that I keep up with some of the same pieces of the marriage to me, that you get a lot of the other stuff. And, you know, I see during good times and for instance, when I'm in New York twice a year, I need to do is some of the expertise that I used to get. And I do keep in touch with some people. Also, you're coming to Chicago, but of course, it's not exactly, you know, I mean, I'm not completely up to date now. But when you look back over your career, what sticks out? What do you think your your greatest impact was or what do you what are you most proud of? I'm pretty sure of that because, you know, you can see that you did a film in Long Island who produces it. You see the use of various other things now, like like, you know, what happened after I retired? I said, well, I was involved. It new surveillance and also the suit because I thought, this is silly. But now is the author who is this is, you know, five or six years ago is said and and they're now using it for things like some only some other things it take to do this sort of stories and so on. And collaborators will definitely look at this. And that's all in addition to that, my friend, because he was the that didn't he most interested in is probably the best that I did on that media, because it does seem to be based on last year. And when I didn't know, you know, after I was a godsend, it was from somewhere, you know, my guess is that I was. But the other thing or did I was there when I got divorced about the same time as the government of the day. I got the honorary doctorate from Bordeaux. So I don't know. You see, I'm interested in anything to say to them about this, and they're interested at the moment and everything to do with something. I never, never had any I mean, I never this is my face, but I am very, very interested in that sort of thing. Well, it sounds like you're keeping up pretty well. Yes. Well, is there anything else that you'd like to share that you think you've left out? I wouldn't want to do this again. OK. I was fortunate in many ways and also in good taste and being able to travel around and, you know, I don't really think so. OK, well, thank you very much. And I'd be happy to probably longer than you expected me to send you anything you would like me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73119/file/158973#t=0.0,2308.80653"}]}]}]}