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Professor Madelyn Henry from the classics department and she will moderate this session at this time.\r\n\r\n- Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for coming to a dialogue on Class and Classics in Higher Education. I'd like to outline the format for how we're going to approach this dialogue. First professor David Roochnick will give his paper and then immediately following professor Boyd will give hers, that way we can get both papers in by one O'clock. When some of you may have to leave and it probably would be a good idea if you waited if you had to leave until that time after both papers have been presented there will be responses first by David Roochnik to Melba Boyd, and then by professor Boyd to David Roochnik then we'll open up the session for general discussion from the audience. David Roochnik is the chair of our Classical Studies Program and associate professor in the philosophy department where he has been since 1982, after completing his PhD at Penn State University in philosophy he's written articles on Play-Doh Hesiod Homer and Aristotle, and he's just completing a book on the Relationship Between Greek Tragedy and Platonic Philosophy. Professor Melba Boyd received her doctorate of arts in English in 1979 from the university of Michigan at Ann Arbor. And since then has authored four volumes of poetry has completed a book-length manuscript about the Radical Vision of Frances E. W. Harper, and is currently writing and directing a documentary on Poet, Dudley, Randall. The title of her four paper is I Dream Therefore IBS. And now I'd like you to welcome professor David Roochnik.\r\n\r\n- Let me just say as a preface that because of a follow-up in the mails, professor Boyd has not seen my paper and I haven't seen hers. So it's at least possible that we'll agree entirely on everything, should be quite pleasant. As I re-read this paper this morning. I couldn't make up my mind if what I'm about to say is extremely simple minded or a bit more than that. I don't know in any case it's short. So I should be done within 15 minutes. I suspect that I've been asked to participate in this debate because I'm perceived as a local version of that notorious reactionary Allan Bloom. I'm after all an old fashioned humanities scholar one of the very few on this campus. I'm not completely happy with this perception because I have some serious misgivings about Bloom's book. We're happy to discuss that. If you are interested at the end of this talk on the other hand, I am willing to be at least partially identified with the spirit of the closing of the American mind like Bloom I'm willing to say that there are some books in the Western tradition that deserve to be on the reading lists of all university students who seriously pursue a liberal arts education. I believe that there are some books that are so good that if they are not taught, students are cheated. I believe that some books are so much better than others that they deserve to be called classics. These statements make me like Allan Bloom and elitist in titling this paper in order to fulfill the expectations of those who invited me. I gave this paper, the title In Defense Of Elitism. Elitist has become a very dirty word. This is especially true in an institution like Iowa state, originally a land Grant College whose primary mission was to educate not the elite but large numbers of ordinary citizens. I think the current overwhelmingly negative interpretation of the word is unfortunate. Why? Because everybody in this room right now is an elitist consider for a moment what the word means? Elite is derived from a Latin word which means to choose, to pick out, to select to elect anyone who makes a conscious choice who elects to be here rather than there who decides that this is better than that. He's an elitist. Everybody in this room chose to be here. Therefore, everybody in this room is an elitist. This may sound silly. And in a sense, of course it is surely elitist means more than someone who makes choices. On the other hand, I think that what I've just said is not it's silly at all. We do make choices that are made on the basis of having certain values. You chose to attend a lecture rather than to stay home and watch TV because for whatever reason you think it is better to do so. We rarely think about our values, but it seems obvious to me that we make value judgements almost every second of our lives. At some point you will stand up to leave. That's a value judgment. Back to Allan Bloom. The main target of Blooms polemic is what he calls openness. What he means by openness is the belief that universities that teachers should resist making value judgments about particular books or particular cultural traditions. Instead, what should characterize a college curriculum is a sense of openness to the enormous variety of cultural traditions that the world presents. The goal the open curriculum would be to introduce students to as many different types of books as possible. According to the openness position education has for too long, been dominated by one set of values expressed in the traditional Canon of great books. These are all Western. They were all written by white men by not including a wider spectrum of writers. They present to closed to elitist of view of the world. What the proponents of openness want is to dispense with the traditional Canon and replace it with a wide variety of books. That until recently have been ignored. Openness is a very popular view. I recently read a work called Contingencies Of Values written by professor Barbara Smith who happens to be president of the modern language association. Her argument goes something like this. It is impossible to make decisions about the value of a book because value is relative. What seems good to a white man? Might seems bad to an Asian woman. In other words, values such as goodness and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder. As a result, there is no such thing as a great book no such thing as a good book, there should be no canon. Instead, there should be openness to all kinds of books by all kinds of authors. I mentioned this book by professor Smith not because I think it is terribly unique book, frankly or even that persuasive in any, in any big way simply that she is president of what's the largest academic body perhaps in the world. And she doesn't believe there's any such thing as a good book. I think that's a symptom of madness. I think openness is an idea which has at least two big problems. First, openness is itself a traditional idea. It has been articulated and defended many times in the past there is a sizeable chunk of Western male dominated thoughts that affirms precisely the kind of relativism, someone like Smith advocates. I think here, for example the Greek Sophist who lived 2,500 years ago, this group of white male thinkers understood relativism as well as any contemporary author, a more modern but equally classic advocate of relativism is nature. Today ideas about relativism and openness are advertised as new exotic and revolutionary. In fact, they are versions of old distinctly Western ideas. The second reason why openness is problematic is because it is unworkable. Nobody can be open to every book. Teachers cannot put every book on their students' reading lists lines have to be drawn. Decisions made why, for example, should we read books written by 19th century women rather than men rather than by 19th century male citizens. Why teach books written by 20th century Hispanic surrealists rather than by 20th century German Nazis teachers give assignments. They make decisions. The question is only this on the basis of what will such decisions be made? Openness itself gives no answer to this question. In this sense, it is an impossible self-defeating concept. At this point, someone will probably object to what I've just said and accuse me of caricaturing the position I criticize. Someone will say that we should open the curriculum not to every book, but only to some books we should for example, include books written by Afro-Americans on our reading lists why? a sizeable portion of the population in the United States is Afro-American therefore a sizable portion of our reading lists should be by Afro-American writers. What does this argument make any sense? There are many books written by Afro-Americans which one should our students read the books by an author such as Richard Wright have value only because their author is a member of an ethnic group substantially represented in the general population? or do writes books have value because there are good books. I think it has to be the latter. And it seems to me, that's obviously the case. If this is the case then the question becomes what constitutes a good book. What qualities does a good book have? I suggest the following extremely rough answers to this complex question. The complexity of the question I'm sure it's obvious to all of you. I cannot hardly do justice to it. I just make some suggestions. A good book is rich and powerful. It is capable. Most of all of generating a community of readers. A good book is a perpetual invitation to discussion and rereading when a good book is so good that it can be read and discussed again and again, it deserves to be called a classic. What I've said is of course, very vague. Let me give an example. Consider Sophocles is play at and the tyrannist As I have witnessed over the years, as I've taught it this book can generate a community of readers. It explores questions that at some points in our lives many of us feel as important. What can we be sure about? Can we ever be sure we know who we are, who we are? Is it perhaps a mistake to believe that we do know who we are? Are we in control of our own lives or are there limits to what we can on our own accomplish? These sorts of questions are sparked by Sophocles his book. The book invites its readers into participating into discussion. It is so rich that it can be used as a means for exploring our own ideas and experiences. I'm trying to be cautious and vague in what I'm saying. I'm not saying that everybody in this room will like or can benefit from or can relate to Sophocles his book. I don't deny that there are cultures in which makes little sense. I don't claim that this book has certifiable universal appeal. Instead. I simply think it is a good book, rich and powerful. It is the type of book that I believe needs to be placed in between a teacher and a student for once it is there a community can be generated around it. When as I re-read that paragraph this is where I feel in especially having attended three four sessions at this conference on education where I feel extremely simple minded for me education is a very simple process. My job as a teacher is to put a good book between me and my students and we all read it. A good book is powerful because it deals with questions and issues and characters that many of us have encountered in our own experiences. It illuminates them in our tech, articulate them better than we on our own could possibly do. It sharply focuses the reader on an issue or a question or a type of character consider Homer's Iliad. Most of us in this room, I'd venture to say have thought about the prospect of our own death. The Elliot is an intense concentrated exposition of this thought. It is about heroes and war as such it is to quote my wife, \"the ultimate boys' book.\" Nevertheless, it is rich enough to invite many of us in. It cannot believe, help us to think about something we cannot help but think about I'm reminded here of one of the Elliot's best readers, Simone Weil, She was a catholic woman and pacifist who somehow found enormous richness in homeroom. A good book, anticipates questions and possible criticisms. Plato's Republic, I believe is the paradigm of this. Time and again, when I've listened to students object to it or when I myself thought of objections to it I have discovered that Play-Doh has anticipated these thoughts and taking them into account. You ask a good book questions and it provides material for you to think about. Because of this a good book is usually quite difficult. It comprises a train of thought worth following it teachers, it teaches its reader how to think, how to deal with objections. Plato's Republic, for example, contains within it as a possible objection to Plato's own view. The position I labeled above is relativism or openness. Play-Doh far more seriously than most contemporary relativists has thought about the implications of relativism and what kind of alternative it offers. Thinking through Plato's work therefore is a training in critical thoughts. This brings me to my last point, a good book a classic inculcates within its readers that desire to read other books and teaches them how to do so. It's so good and thoughtful that by it the reader is prepared for lesser books. This is why the current infatuation with books that students can relate to. In other words, books written by authors who come from similar historical and social circumstances as do the students is I think deeply misguidance. A goal of an undergraduate education should be to implant within the student a love of reading. I propose it a good training and the classics best teaches students how to read classics are difficult they need to be taught. They rarely can't just be read for they require much discussion and work, but once they have been finished and worked through the student will find it easier to read books written by contemporary authors. In this regard, there is another advantage to the classics precisely because they are set in historical and social circumstances, quite different from our own. The reader is given a unique opportunity to criticize them. Criticism requires distance at the same time, the distance between the reader and the world of the book can not be so great as to make that world unintelligible. The classics of ancient Greece, I suggest are sufficiently distant from us as to make criticism possible. At the same time, they are sufficiently near us as to allow that criticism to have some bearing on our own life My shortlist of characteristics, we'll by we'll be dismissed by many of you as hopelessly vague or as naive, or maybe even pernicious Bloomington. If I had the time I go, I'd enjoy going into greater length about what I've just said, but I don't have the time. So I'll just close with this proposal. If you disagree with me, then you and I should have a kind of conversation. Here's what I mean. Imagine that you, my critic and I are on a committee that has to decide what 10 books freshmen at Iowa state university must read. Let's assume we agree on nine there's only room for one more. You propose Toni Morrison's new book Beloved. I propose Euripides Play Medea. You and I should be willing to argue about the merits of these two books, which by the way, deal with some of the same themes. If you say to me, let's make our students read Beloved because its author as an Afro-American woman and its subject is slavery in America. I think you have failed to provide a good reason for the books inclusion On our list.\r\n\r\n- The question of authorship is not the primary issue, my own view. And I say this with a little trepidation, is that Beloved not that good book, no one who has read her her works would deny the Toni Morrison is a gifted writer but I think this novel suffers from real weaknesses. It is intensely subjective impressionistic and self-consciously poetic more than anything else that seems to me to be a very typical late 20th century book. I do not think this particular book can generate a community of readers. I think that because of its intense self-consciousness it excludes students at least as I imagine it would find it difficult to learn much from it. They will not be sparked to ask questions about themselves or to discuss the book with others. By contrast, Medea is a classic. It is powerful and rich. It treats some of the same themes as does Beloved in a more inviting provocative manner. It gets readers into it rather than excludes them. If properly taught it will force its readers to ask questions about their own values and experiences. Toni Morrison has certainly read the Medea. And perhaps you would agree with me that you than her own should be required. Reading for freshmen. I say that only because I heard her speak and she mentioned Medea Medea is not about contemporary America. It was not written by a woman. It is not immediately relevant, but it is so good. So well constructed. So inviting that it should be taught. Having read the Medea. The student will be well-prepared to read on her own a book like Beloved. I don't think it works the other way around. Now, let me say this. I certainly may be wrong about Beloved. I only read it once and perhaps I read it carelessly. I'm therefore, and I mean, it's quite sincerely open to being persuaded that it and not the Medea should be the 10th book on the reading list. But what I don't want to hear, what I don't wanna be told is that we should teach Beloved because it was written by an Afro-American woman. Instead, I want you, my critic, my colleague, in this debate about the freshmen reading list to explain to me why this is a good book, show me by the conversation can make with me, how Beloved generates a community of readers, how it addresses questions and issues that are alive, how it teachers, its reader, excuse me how it teaches its readers to read other books and invites them to read more and more. This type of conversation in which you and I open a book Beloved or any other and discuss its value my goal, that's the only thing I think is worth doing in this community of ours. And it's done with great infrequency. This type of conversation in which you and I open a book and discuss its value, perhaps disagree about its value is my goal and the hope that animates everything I do. It's what I want to do with my colleagues. As well as with my students, such a goal is elitist. I want to discover what the best books are and then I want to read them with good students. If this is elitism, then it is defensive Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I first like to say that I appreciate being asked to come to Iowa state. It's sort of a homecoming. I taught at the university of Iowa for six years. And when I leave here, I'll be headed to Iowa city. And so it's sort of nice to be here and I appreciate folks remembering me and asking me to come out. I would like to, read you some poetry before I start to read, maybe to relax a bit. And also since I'm sort of a non-traditional person I felt that I liked to keep my presentations likewise. The first poem which makes reference to one of those, that makes an illusion I suppose, or he's directly included To one of those dead white men didn't have to read. And it's a poem that I wrote when I was living in Iowa and it struck me one day and I was sitting a couple of years ago that some of the problems that you can see regularly in the cities like homeless people were beginning to become evident in Iowa. And in particular, Iowa city which in some ways sets itself apart from the West, the rest of the state, and this poem is entitled The Wasteland. Narcissistic poetry dazzles under glass licentious, lingering lying above unsolicited humans, vanquished under snow drifts off post industrial cliffs, still illiterate of T.S Eliot. This poem, as a midwife for another poem which in some ways represents more of my feelings about it rather than my just thinking about it. And the poem is called The Year of No Snow. My grandfather's ghost God the peace circle around the children's open window. While I think under a them crack Lam grateful for luck the tendril of my fortune like the homeless I to carry space between my footsteps. So inside the warmth of a rented rectangle I craft common sense and creative resistance into alcohol bated compositions. Yesterday there was no winter here, no reports of frozen women or children interrupted sardonic consensus through which great prayers lifted the president's Vale revealing a crooked smile, the right angle, deletion of vegan reasons you see contrary to popular polls the macabre flies over tropical regions and magic does restore color to damage skies and dismembered dreamers. The title of my speech is I Dream therefore IBS. And when I sat down to write the speech, there's so many things that we can talk about. And it's such a non-inflammatory topic that decided that I wanted to start with myself and then move out from there. So if there's one thing that can probably believe that I'm at least an authority and it is myself. I want to address the issue of self-denial or rather how we are educated into absence for this has been the crux of my struggle in academia as a student as a poet and as a scholar, the positive rhetoric of education purports the myth of betterment of self. But that betterment is of another self. Someone who is usually insensitive more often than not arrogant and in too many other instances that one is narrow minded and ignorant of American history and culture. Because that self has been trained to think within the confines of a white male middle-class framework with aspirations for acceptance and or endorsements from the ruling class. So he or she can make money or become famous. That self becomes culturally schizophrenia and spiritually dead. That self does not know who she he has become nor does that self act out of a humane consciousness as a black American woman of Cherokee African Jewish, Irish, and Welsh descent. I have resisted the imposition of institutionalization by praying hard and moving fast. At the same time, I've used my ancestral diversity as an intricate and fascinating context for the development of my cultural identity and as a person and a prism for a perspective that is inclusive and infinite. For the most part, it is not the traditional Canon of Euro American thought that denies our holistic humanity but rather it is the finite closure. And shrouding that thought that refuses to recognize the living values of other thought and how they must be interconnected. If we have to realize our intellectual and cultural power as a new people, but resistance to the evolution of that new culture demonstrates a serious and detrimental contradiction within itself, Dr. Betty L. Siegel, president of Kennesaw college correlates the current resurgence of racial. Elitism some in higher education. What's the declining presence of black students in the classrooms in particular she relates to the exclusion of Dr. Martin Luther King civil rights essays from the American literary Canon to the societal denial of Afro-American thought and Afro-American people. In her essay securing Martin Luther King rightful place in the classroom. She says Edwards Centers in the hands of an angry God is a masterpiece of Puritan rhetoric and Kings I Have A Dream. Is a masterpiece of civil rights rhetoric, but why is one included and not the other? Is it more important for our graduates to understand their Puritan backgrounds than to understand the civil rights issues that dominated the late 50 and 60s? The role of civil disobedience produces the blueprint that King's letter from Birmingham city jail puts into practice. But again, why include one and not the other and if a King is not good enough to enter the college classrooms. It is not surprising that potential black students have misgivings about entering those same classrooms. I stand back to Siegel's analysis just suggest that American students need to read Dr. King's Civil Rights Rhetoric, so they can overcome the repression of Puritan thought that is still embedded in their perceptions and attitudes. Additionally of free consciousness. It's not advocated in the contemporary teachings of the row because that literature is usually presented as an abstraction buried in the past with no contemporary corelative or examples. Unfortunately, in too many instances, Dr. King is isolated and celebrated as history. Estranging him from present issues confronting the poor the doc, the disenfranchise. However, in the late 60s when I was an undergraduate student my American literature professor, who was also a poet made inferences and allusions to the activist activities that the air and the ideas expressed by the Rome with men, twine and Melville and with Kings literary style there's just opposed with there it is justice, eloquent justice inspiring and more than worthy. When was the last time you invited an Indian to thanksgiving dinner? I say this to embarrass our historical and cultural ignorance. We occupied a land base that Europeans conquered and claim with an inane disregard for the intelligence and wisdom they encountered. We still walk over that ghosted past the US constitution. The document we hold in reverence was as much influenced by the articles of Confederation that governed the Oneida nation as it was by the democratic concepts of ancient Greece. And yet the political and social sophistication of our native ancestry is now respected as an integral facet of our philosophical framework To not realize a symbolic significance of Crispus Attucks the first person to die in the revolutionary war who was black and Indian, is to deny the irony of biracial legacy. To a large extent. American freedom has flourished at the expense of people of color, but in American institutions of higher learning, the native born are studied as primitives or subcultures or as illegal aliens or as sociological phenomena or as historical antagonisms. A recent legitimate inclusion in academia as minority studies is the result of student activism and protests of the 60s, which were largely inspired by the speeches and essays of Dr. King. But our presence is tenuous and very shaky. Likewise, our longevity and society is awesome questionable. Last year, I participated in a conference that attempted to conceptualize some of the value and the power of minority literatures at the international symposium for minority literatures in North America at the university of Asana book west Germany the vice president of the university related to fundamental reasons to credit this effort. One, it helps to Defend the right of existence of the humanities liberal arts and social sciences against the growing predominance of the natural sciences engineering and technology. And two, it stresses the university's role as social critique and democratic conscience of society. Professor, professor Reinhard cruiser continued his opening address by relating these reasons to Germany's historical circumstances. It will help to focus attention on the specific problems as well as the cultural contributions of minorities everywhere. Specifically in Germany it might help to induce a more general awareness of the fact that although ethnic minorities are practically non-existent there has been always a minority problem. As long as the people in this country do not see that the barbaric treatment of the minorities especially of the Jewish people in the third, right? And the everyday prejudices and discriminatory practices against present day minorities, the Turkish and other people of foreign descent, the unemployed the disabled can both be traced back to the common roots. They have not really learned their lesson. As the symposium indicated our perception of knowledge and the broadening of the humanistic perspective should be inclusive. And that class exclusive to promote the belief that great thought and great literature has already been achieved. And that is preeminence prevailed over our brains. Like an incurable migraine is to deny our individual intelligence and the development of new thought and new literatures. This inequity is especially dangerous for Americans because we are not Europeans or ancient Greece. Neither are we Indians or Africans or Asians but rather we are an evolving race that can benefit from the interaction and it privatization of that diversity. Unfortunately intelligence is too often equated with inflated vocabularies and intricate syntaxes servicing small colonies. So the liter scholars are providing Colts for another inept deceptive public official postured on prime time television. In the image, Kenneth Boulding explains the accumulation of knowledge is not merely the difference between messages coming in and giving out. It is not like a reservoir. It's rather an organization which grows through an active internal organizing principle or entity organizing the growth of bodily structures. The application of this conception of knowledge to the dynamics of American literature is especially helpful because as a poet, I know from firsthand experience with my own work and other American writers that we read each other we find less discriminatory in our cultural distinctions that critics and ethnic communities. Our work is organic and living. We flourish on the interaction and exchange of creative energy, while writer's white writers be black writers, re-read writers, requite writers read yellow writers, read Brown writers, read black writers re read writers, requite writers, re-read writers. And we all listen to music. We watch films, we dance and do other silly things. The inclusion of disenfranchised literatures is the opening of closed structures. It instigates the destruction of class stratified thought it's a birth the dominant paradigm. It poses questions that confirm a spiritual oneness as it challenges the rationalizations that the main difference and oppresses imagination it provides an endless energy for alternative perspectives interacting to activate a synergistic plane of cultural intelligence that transcends the contradictions of our ancestors. Mary Baraka explains in loose people that black Americans developed some of the most complex and complicated ideas about the world imaginable. It is a cultural perspective that evolves around improvisation. It pivots around the insect attitude of the moment of perception of reality that combines the past with the future by illuminating the essence of feeling and intuition. But it is the absence of feeling and the denial of intuition which is preferred and oftentimes insisted upon in academia perhaps that is why it is preferable to Revere them like men who speak in metaphors and illusions. So removed from my immediate reality, that it is almost impossible to breathe life into their legacies but having read considered and being relatively appreciative of them, I feel they have been unfairly used to validate racial supremacy and elitism. Should they not benefit from our knowledge as well? Instead, they reappear as static and stale Hans in the library. Before the United States people had concrete identities based on their roles in the communities and on their individual personalities in this country whiteness is a cultural endowment that promotes the notion of racial privilege and preference. It is a social disease that feeds an illusion that undermines our humanity. It is a fungus covering our true skins. In 1972 when I was a graduate student in English I was told by the chair of the department that Afro-American literature was not a legitimate literature. If, if that were true, then I was also illegitimate. But my birth certificate and transcript was evidence to the contrary. And in order to survive this racist arrogance I argued that legality was relative to man's power and a denial of our God given right of birth. And no matter how much they lied there was no evidence that they had been empowered by Zeus but by guns and papers,. The denial of others contries a deadly selfish fiction that manifest itself in insidious ways. We are standing on the edge of planetary destruction unable to undo our assault on nature and on ourselves. We are plagued by famines, droughts, radon, gas mercury poisoning, AIDS crack cocaine, cancer, homicide, suicide, and practice side. We are evidencing the disappearance of wildlife and forestry. We are confronted with the calamity of contaminated oceans chemically saturated soil, polluted rivers and lakes. While we delicately balanced between two holes over the North and South poles. My grandmother once said to me, nobody knows everything but we should be able to agree on one thing about today. We are in deep shame. If we are not willing to open our thoughts and restructure our vision to develop a new future instead of repeating our old peg pace then we will find ourselves singing Dixie all the way to the grave. If we continue to stop the scars of dead thinkers without the spiritual life of Dr. King black Alice Walker, and Hopkins medicine,. women and men, then we must determine to meet the fate of ancient Greece and Rome for to ignore our collective history is to foreclose on our future. Like the Republicans coming down on Ireland farms. Adrienne Rich reminds us a blood, bread and poetry that the privilege of education carries a responsibility to develop and to defend a humane and just consciousness to deny that responsibility and to submit to a system of tyranny is an elitist democracy is a negation of our stories and negation of ourselves. Not only do I think, therefore I am. I say I dream. Therefore IBS, thank you.\r\n\r\n- Both speakers. We'd like to welcome your responses now and questions. Yes, okay. It's actually possible to think of any already named great author of the past and think about it at all. In my field history of art, the most famous single volume no one disagrees with every book you can find will say that part of the nod is the most beautiful building in the world. It's a wreck. It's a massive stone. That's all broken down. But it's been said since the fourth century BC in our classical literature it is the most beautiful building in the world. And if you ask our students in the department of architecture, the name of the 10 most beautiful they'll name it, even though nobody knows what it looked like then and it looks like a massive stones because this culture for two and a half thousand years has been saying it's the most beautiful building in the world. Many it was handed down the same way. Not that it's a bad play, but in fact can we really think about it at all? Or any book that's been given to us? Like the Bible has Greek literature I would say most of the classics are on paper. We can only accept them as God. Therefore we can't take them out.\r\n\r\n- I think I could agree with that. If I were formulated, I they're very badly. And I certainly agree with that. Plato's Republic. Like the propolis is advertised by many as the greatest work of political philosophy. Never believe that leaving it That is just a mindlessness. It's your mindlessness. You have to open up the book. It's dark evaluating it criticizing it from the very first line.\r\n\r\n- But can, can you evaluate it book then for two and a half thousand years every major writers, says this is wonderful. Can you actually evaluate it? Or are you just up? This is what good is. But as a public, immediately after it was published it was criticized by artists So there is tradition I think you can, I mean, you know you just have a separate approach with a kind of common, here's a revered book. Well, let's open it up and see if it's any good. I mean you have a teacher has to somehow create an environment in which every student believes that he or she the right and the energy to do that. And not even be even more than right, right. Should I say responsibility? Your job as a student to go home and read it and come back and tell me what you think and tell the class that you think if you think it's garbage, you tell us. And if you don't, you have you have neglected your responsibility but you can really question a book that's 10 years old or your lifetime. How many questions, having questions shapes. Is there anybody in this room who could actually think of a play of Shakespeare's and tell everybody else in any constituents, whether it was a rotten flip You don't dare. Because everyone it is done.\r\n\r\n- I don't know. I mean, your experience can come on this also I have to talk to, as with public, many times students are outraged by it.\r\n\r\n- Good as long as they read it and then tell me what they think is wrong with it. That's a very healthy reaction. Play-Doh seems to advocate something like totalitarianism. I don't think he actually does that, but it certainly seems as if he does students read it and say what? We can't allow this to happen. I mean this is a philosophy two or one Doc Hon Iowa state.\r\n\r\n- I think if I remember excuse my ignorance I think one of the first thing while on stage that you are supposed to do is to they call a strong correct I mean question correct? I will like to respond to challenge about Toni Morrison's Beloved by saying David, sometime when you have about half an hour or 45 minutes if you would like to just listen quietly with an open mind while I tell you about that book, I'll be happy to do that. I think there's quite sufficient evidence that there's a remarkably large and attentive community of readers for that right now. And so to, to deny that there is any such thing strikes me as unusual but usually when people issue a challenge like yours they want to engage in an argument. And as soon as you get the first part of your opening remarks out they interrupt you and begin in on you. 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discussion of that book, I could tape it for you and you'll be able to listen to a couple of hours of the discussion of the book.\r\n\r\n- That's a wonderful invitation, thank you.\r\n\r\n- Sir.\r\n\r\n- First of all, I think probably part of the problem with Bloom's position and yours is not so much whether or not Plato or Aristotle, or Descartes, or whomever authored the book. But the problem here is how as you put it how to do you determine what is a good book? That is a good book. It's not good in any kind of purely intrinsic sense. In some sense, whatever it is has to appear somewhere. The issue here is how do these texts appear to us? Where do they come from? They didn't drop out of the sky to us. They were produced by some community somewhere for some purposes. Now if you look at the history of the teaching of the classics, you'll find a varied history there. As a matter of fact, in so far as these books were supposed to be so good but most of the time, they were never supposed to be taught to everybody. As a matter of fact, they were elite in the sense of elite as oppression, and furthermore the teaching of these texts, as matter of fact in the classic simply Latin that had a preeminence until much later and then Greek came in. So people were really much more Virgil than they were Aristotle and Plato. And it's only been here of late, maybe in the last two or three generations, that people taught you anything about Greece, or about the Athens in which Plato and Aristotle actually lived. In other words, they taught you all of these ideas, these ideas then became related to abstractions such as Athens, or fifth-century Greece, or whatever. But we knew nothin' about the arrangement of social life, community life. What else was going on there? That meant that the whole notion of knowledge ended up being the packaging of various ideas that went into a certain kind of ruling class, especially in Victorian England, and also in Imperial Germany. These texts were taught for the ruling classes and these ruling classes actually ruled. So one has to ask somethin' about the generation of these texts. As all again simply defending them as whether or not you'd put 'em in or out. I can see one reading Plato, or Aristotle, or all of this other stuff, if this does not mean a closure. That is if this does not mean that by reading this I am also makin' a judgment against something else, which is precisely what is going on here. It has to do with what is the authority behind this text that says it is the text? That is what is the context of the discussion in which allows these texts to appear as the authoritative texts? And to me that problem is not one that is severed yet. If you try to generate these texts within the American experience, then one in some sense has to justify these texts within the American experience so that they don't fall out of the sky as if there was some great God in whom we all believe told us these were the right texts.\r\n\r\n- But I think there's much in that I would agree with that, I'd like to just respond to one of your sentences, which is if you want us to read a book like Plato's \"Republic\" and not make judgements against others, I think that's impossible.\r\n\r\n- No I'm sayin'-\r\n\r\n- Can I just- No, can I just finish?\r\n\r\n- I mean, you make judgments.\r\n\r\n- Can I finish please?\r\n\r\n- All right.\r\n\r\n- In my opinion, Plato articulates a position which for example, is extremely critical of sexism. I think he is a feminist. I believe that as a Platonist, it's my job to make a judgment against sexism. That's a judgment, that's closure, I think in your terms. And I want to keep it that way.\r\n\r\n- No, no, that's not the point I was making. I'm saying that what one does in the very choice of these texts as the basis for any discussion and argument is to immediately move them into a normative position as they relate to any other kinds of texts I experience. That's the issue I'm talkin' about.\r\n\r\n- At some point I hope we all make some kind of normative judgment.\r\n\r\n- No, I'm not saying that. I'm sayin' you have no basis for making the normative judgment about these kinds of texts, unless you push 'em on the basis of an extra textural authority.\r\n\r\n- So how did we make any decisions about any text?\r\n\r\n- Well look, I think we can make decisions about texts if we placed them within another kind of context in which other kinds of judgments can be made.\r\n\r\n- No, just briefly, one of the things that I thought about talkin' about in this paper, which I didn't, has been my feeling about the way that we educate in general. And it always seems like everything started like so long ago and that it started at that particular point. And it always starts that point has to be like white male and the ruling class and it doesn't make any sense to me that in order for you to evaluate and look at something else, or someone else, or somewhere else, you gotta know who you are and where you come from first or else you'll be so screwed up and confused you won't know how to get back home. And that's what happens. You know, you go away to college and then they started telling you, \"Now this is what you have to know \"and when you get to knowin' know \"you're going to be like really smart. \"And not only that you can go back \"and you can lead your tribe to freedom,\" and all of that kind of madness. And then you just end up leading them into some new madness. And I think that if students were taught to understand who their community is, who they are, and then you move out. I think it was mentioned earlier, you were talkin' about an article that compared \"Beloved\" to \"Medea.\" I mean, that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me that she started with something that is accessible and at least close to the way that we use language so that we can look at that language and synthesize that. And then look at other things which are related or interrelated, but to start from Greece and then make your way up to I don't know how many centuries, and how many different peoples, I think is terribly confusing and disorienting.\r\n\r\n- Ma'am.\r\n\r\n- I would just like to add a little gloss to the Greek and Latin material. In the 19th century when young men, and rich young men for the most part or in the Midwest sometimes poor if they went from Oberlin, for instance where they have to work their way through, if they went to college, they could go only because they had done Latin and Greek in those languages in their preparatory schools. And in fact, Latin and Greek, nobody read Homer, or Virgil, or Medea in English. They had to read them in Latin, or Greek. And Latin and Greek were the critical filters, which kept all black people out of colleges and kept all white women out of colleges for a very long time. Until the 1870s, in fact. Women could go to Oberlin but they couldn't, unless they had through some miracle they had Latin and Greek, in their preparatory school or willing to begin on it. They had to take something called a literary curriculum, which is for women only. And which was in English only and not in Latin or Greek. So I say this only because our inheritance of Latin and Greek now it may come to us in a very strange way through the centuries in which it was the heart of this kind of education and which in fact education is thought that the difficulty one had in learning the language was itself very healthy for disciplining the mind. And the word discipline really had nothing to do with what we call math, and physics, and so forth. Discipline meant mental discipline, which you got from learning those very difficult languages of Latin and Greek. The other little postscript I wanted to take on this is when I had my first real teaching job in 1954 in Hofstra and I was asked to teach. I was handed a curriculum and the curriculum was an American literature curriculum that all sophomores had to take, this is the '50s, a whole year that I was supposed to teach as a brand-new which I called an instructor in English literature. And the first semester consisted of the Old Testament in Greece. And I was very bewildered. And it was called \"Hebraism and Hellenism.\" I had to do a whole semester of Homer, and a whole bunch of plays. I enjoyed teaching all of this though I knew very little about it. And the Old Testament was started. The second semester was American literature, fiction. \"Huckleberry Finn,\" \"The Scarlet Letter,\" a lot of poetry, two other novels. \"Billy Budd,\" and what was the connection? The connection was at least some people's way of seeing American culture American society in terms of the Greeks and the Hebrews. And if you think about it, this again is the '50s, if you think about it, it's extremely narrow. There were no women, a white, black, Asian American. There was no women in the whole portrait at all. Yes there was \"Medea\" but no one thought about her as a woman as a matter of fact. There was no women. There were certainly no members of minority groups at all. Blacks were invisible and the whole color line was absent. It's an incredible way of seeing American literature in the '50s. I was part of the world that just accepted if we did it. It's very different now. And I would say to you that I do value books. And I would agree with practically everything you've said, David about the teaching and the way one book leads to another. But I learned long ago, in Mississippi in '64, that almost any good book does what you've claimed for those classic any good book. And the main thing the teacher needs to do it seems to me is not to place a value judgment on the book itself. It doesn't really matter. Except maybe to that teacher's pride because that teacher had published an article saying, \"This is a great book.\" It doesn't really matter. What matters is the reading and the talking. It doesn't matter whether the books are labeled great or not great. Generations keep reinterpreting anyway. Melville was the least possible writer in his own time. He made no money and he wasn't read. And he would never have been part of literary curriculum except for something that happened in the 1920s long after he was dead. Emily Dickinson was never read in her own time. The least possible, most unsuccessful writer one could think of was Henry James. Edith Wharton made all of the money and had all of the prestige. Well literary reputations come and go. And it's not been true of the classics. For very, very different historical reasons. As professor Long has suggested last night.\r\n\r\n- If I could just respond to that very quickly. You were nice to agree with me, and I would certainly agree with you. And what you described in the 19th century is oppression. It's sexism. Let me just pose this question to everybody in this room, including myself, why is sexism wrong? Why is oppression wrong? We all take it as absolutely obvious that those are true statements. Sexism is wrong and oppression is wrong. Why? In my opinion, in order to answer that question you must be able to explain something about what it means to be a human being. I think it's that difficult. I think.\r\n\r\n- No, no, I was just gonna say it hurts. That's why it's wrong.\r\n\r\n- It hurts, yeah.\r\n\r\n- It hurts.\r\n\r\n- Lots of things hurt.\r\n\r\n- To somebody.\r\n\r\n- Yeah we're humans in pain.\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean, I'd ask you the same. Does that mean that sometimes people's good is good?\r\n\r\n- The gentleman in the back.\r\n\r\n- I don't think you'd say that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I was about to say that I really loved your idea about celebrating history and considering all of the temporary ideas. And I was wondering what other kinds of submissions you have to criticisms in the rooted consciousness of dead, white, sexist men that have plagued our readings for so long that we can somehow rise above that and integrate it in the education system?\r\n\r\n- Oh, wow. Well if you would transfer to OSU, you can take some of my class. A lot of work that I do is literacy work and it's not just related. The questions that are raised aren't just related to the problems of teaching the poor to read and to be able to handle language in a variety of situations. As it relates to power, as it relates to reading, writing, educational habits. But I think that it also has to do with the way that we're trained to thought and probably the way that I see that I don't- I really like books. I worked with the publisher and editor making books you know for six years. And I like the way they look. I liked going back and seeing all of the books from the 19th century and all of that. I really like it, but I also like a variety of things. And I think the one about being American is that we are not just a book-based culture and a lot of people like to think that that's like really, really horrible. But I think, you know, we have like films. I mean, really good films that we don't necessarily pay enough attention to. The music. So much of our poetry is in the music but sometimes it's played so loudly that my impression is most of students can't even hear the beauty of the language in the music. But there's a lot to be learned if you just pay attention more closely to what's going on around you. I think that fundamentally, you have to decide that you're not gonna think in a box anymore and that you have to trust your feelings. You know, we're not allowed to trust our feelings. When you're reading, one thing like I tell my students, I hate givin' 'em a very, very long reading list and teaching on the quarter system is driving me nuts. Because I feel that there's too much speed placed on what you have to know within the confines of the semester or a quarter. But that you should be able to read, to enjoy, read it aloud. There's hardly any discussion about sound. I've sat in so many literature classes where no one even reads the literature aloud. So much of the power in the language, the living in the language, is in the sound. To do these things. I think the way that you interact with each other, the way you encounter people. Last night, Dr. Long talked about the way that we abstract even ourselves so that as a student you're sitting in classrooms you want to make reference to the skins. Well you know the black kids or you know the Chinese kids, 'cause almost all Asian kids get reduced to abstracts of Chinese, right? But you know we don't take time to know each other individually to seek out, you know, real relationships. And I know it's hard and it's very difficult because basically Americans are paranoid. We've been conditioned to be paranoid. Somebody's always comin' to get us. If it's not the Russians, it's the IRS. And you have to work very hard against being paranoid. At the same time, you have to be very careful because there's a lot of real violence in this society. Dr. Long talked about violence last night. A major part of what I'm dealing with in my work is violence. But there's so much violence in our language. And how do you get that? How do we stop being so combative? Like the whole way that we even deal with argument, the concept of argument, I don't like it. You know what I mean? I think that we should discuss in order to distinguish and to clarify not to beat up or to get a prize or something like that. But basically everything is placement. And it is very difficult because your initial reaction when somebody says somethin' that hurts your feelings, or you don't agree with, you're ready to like pop him. I mean, that's what we've been taught. And if we don't it physically, then we train an academic to do it verbally. And you have to just really consciously come out of that. And you have to really go and look for other kinds of literature. And things that will say things about you and your parents that will be very, very painful. But you have to get past that.\r\n\r\n- I would like to just say a couple of things and to quote Sappho, \"I have two minds.\" I'm kind of between our two speakers as a class assist and as a somewhat radical feminist. I can see equal merit in each of their arguments. I believe that by and large in our community by acknowledging our multicultural past, that we can inform and enrich our understanding of the human community. I also believe in the value of history and the growth of the historical consciousness. And for that reason, I would never want to expunge from our study those document which have been a part of institutionalized higher education. And I think that documents from the past such as \"Euripides,\" and then works like Morrison can mutually inform and enrich each other. That's my comment. Other remarks? Thank you all very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46607/file/119738#t=0.0,1170.768"}]}]}]}