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I had the pleasure of meeting and working with Karim, during my year at the American university in Cairo, last year. Just a little bit of background on Karim, Karim was born in Alexandria, Egypt. At the age of 14, he moved to Britain with his family. Went to school and took two degrees in engineering, worked for a while as an engineer. And as he went back for his PhD in engineering, the writing bug hit him. From that followed, a quick succession of residencies with various theater companies in Britain, including the Theater Royal Stratford East. And then on to The Royal Court Theater, which is probably the number one theater in the world, for new writing. From there, Karim took on the joint artistic control of a company called the Joint Stock Theater Group. Which is a group dedicated to longer rehearsal periods and maybe forming a more organic type of a play, based on research and interviews, and digging in depth into a particular subject. That's the reason Karim is here on the ISU campus. Karim is working with a group of theater students on trying to find a play based on what it is like to be the other or an outsider, here on the campus. We're looking into the question of us versus them. One of the last things I did in Egypt, before I came back here to ISU, was work on a play called Crossing the Water, written by Karim Alrawi. Which was a play about the last days of the British, in Egypt. If you were to classify Karim's writing, I think he deals very specifically with the question of home, cultural identity and racial discrimination and prejudice. And some of his talk tonight, which is on censorship, and his experiences on censorship. Will deal with Crossing the Water, and some of the experiences that came directly out of that. So, enough of me, Karim Alrawi.\r\n\r\n- Well, thank you. I know it's a Monday evening, which is always difficult but bear with me as best you can. This evening we really splitting up evening into three parts this first part, where I will talk a bit is really by way of introduction, to reading of a short play of mine, which was written for the Royal Court Theater. Later this year, they're doing a season of short plays about the Middle East, no doubt, the interests was sparked by the Gulf war and the crisis in the region. So, this is my contribution to that evening of short plays that they intend to do. Last year, they did a similar season of dialogues, as they call them. So, the play is really quite static, but in fact, the way we're presenting it, is probably even more static than it need be. That's really because we've only had a few hours to rehearse it and for the actors to become familiar with the material. So, that's the second part of the evening. And the third part is really a discussion and if there's anything arises out of what I say, in the next half hour or three quarters of an hour, and the play and people want to pick up certain points and questioning me about it, then that's for that part to the evening. It's a formidable way of technology here actually, I find very intimidating, but I did by that a lecture. But as I just hate listening to people reading from that, because I've also done out some notes, so I'm going to try use the notes as much as possible. And when I get stuck, I'll refer back to the more detailed lecture, . The thing about censorship in Egypt, is that it is directly tied to the British invasion, which took place in 1882. My own experiences of censorship, are to do with censorship in Britain and in Egypt. So, in fact, I will take the two subjects together and because they are related historically, anyway, that would be my approach. The British invaded invaded Egypt to put a stop to a democratic liberal revolution, that was a revolution against absolute monarchy and against a feudal system in the country. They also invaded the country to secure their route to India. India was on a British colony and the British were obsessed by a fear that, the French or the Russians might try and grab it. And that Britain been so far away, that the British would find it difficult to mobilize troops and forces to defend their colony. So, in 1882, the British bombed Alexandria and landed and eventually defeated the forces of the revolution, the liberal democratic revolution. It was mainly a peasant army, with support from some of the middle classes in the cities. Censorship was introduced into Egypt by the British, in the early part of the century, basically to counter, the criticism of the British administration in the country. They turn Egypt, has a long history, although, it is a lost history, for most of the time. It's believed that in the Pharaonic period, which is around 4 or 5,000 years ago, plays were being performed in the temples. Mainly, religious plays, play about the triumph of Horus, the Sun god over Seth, the god of of chaos and death. After about the Roman period which was about 2000 years ago, there's very little in the way of accounts with theater in Egypt. Although, it is known that for several centuries, there were groups of traveling players in Arabic, they're called . These were groups of performers who would go around to villages and produce a play on whatever was the topic or subject. They would sit around for a day, talking to the locals, and getting idea of what the burning local issue was. And they would improvise a play on the subject. Contemporary theater in Egypt can be dated, from around the middle of the last century. When translations of French plays, namely, Moliere, were entering the Arabic language. These translations were made by Lebanese writers and by Egyptian writers. And these plays are taken up by the companies, and performed. But they were advised, they will have advised in that setting, and in their humor, and in their tone. So, they became virtually new plays. So, Tartuffe became Al-Shayk Matluf. So, it became a play about a Muslim clergyman, rather than about a Catholic priest. Generally, these plays where, had a large element of improvisation added to them. Towards the end of the last century, with the development of a Liberal Democratic Movement. A poet by the name of the Abdullah al-Nadeem, started to use theater as a means of promoting liberal ideas. He set up Alexandria's first real theater and he traveled around with a company of players, performing his plays in the Delta region, in the Northern part of Egypt. He visit villages, took farmers and peasants. When the revolution broke out, the Liberal Democratic Revolution broke out. He became one of its most articulate spokesman, and it is a measure of how dangerous the British thought theater was, but that after they invaded the country they put a price on his head. It is also a measure of how popular he was, that he was able to remain in hiding for 10 years before being caught. He outlasted all the other revolutionary leaders, who one by one, where caught and exiled. So, theater had a foundation in political criticism, which was then taken up by other nationalist leaders. So, Mustafa came in, who became the founder of the National party. The main anti British party in the early part of the century wrote a play which to my knowledge has never been performed. Recently, I read it and it's not a terribly good play, like many plays written by political activists, it's a bit kind of, it hits too many nails on the head in a very obvious way. It's supposedly set in Muslim Spain, and about the attempt by the Christian forces to defeat the Muslim invaders and how they're faulted by a united action by the good guys. Censorship was introduced to Egypt by Lord Cromer or a man who later became Lord Cromer, who was the governor general of Egypt. The irony is that Lord Cromer, after the first World War, also became The Lord Chamberlain, in Britain. The man who enforced censorship on British theater. So, the ties between censorship and the two countries are quite close, not only was introduced. Censorship was introduced into Egypt by British governor general, but that man also became the imposer of censorship in Britain. Censorship, through the Lord Chamberlain, was abolished in Britain, in 1968. And it's only now, 23 years later, that the green boxes that contain his papers, from 1901 to 1968 have become available. These green boxes were kept at St. James's palace, they were the possession of the Royal family. There was no access allowed to them. It's funny being decided that to reveal the contents of these boxes is no longer a threat to this security and stability of her Majesty's realm. The theater has been so dangerous these days. In fact, some of the material has been mean retained longer, than a lot of material that is withheld, on the British secret services. The MI6 and MI5, of a 25 year, most material, hold a 25 year limit on its secrecy. Some of these documents have been secret since 1901. I've managed to get a letter that was in one of these boxes, a copy of a letter in one of these boxes. Which was a letter sent by The Lord Chamberlain, to the writer, Graham Greene, the novelist and playwright. This is just to give you an idea of the kind of things that preoccupied The Lord Chamberlain. The letter is as follows, The Lord Chamberlain appreciates the atmosphere which the author is trying to produce. At the same time, he objects, in principle, to the pulling of the lavatory plugs, and all that that stands for. In this respect, he feels, that he would have, as he always has to have, a majority of feeling behind him. Meaning a majority of the British public would be outraged to hear lavatory flash off stage. From your point of view, I realized that you have started with the idea of the symbolism which the lavatory creates. And it is therefore, difficult to think that anything else, will produce the results you are after. But I suggest, that to anyone who has not been born in the lavatory, a sufficient atmosphere will be achieved by noises of water running out of a sink. In fact, I have heard many a sink make a noise like a well-behaved lavatory. In view of your difficulties, The Lord Chamberlain is prepared to hold up the license of the play, which will not in commode you during rehearsals. They lavatory expression, but nevermind. As this plug business is only cap required, this will, he hopes, give you time to decide, that the lavatory, is not necessary. In this case, if you write and say, you wish this deleted from the script, a clean license will be sent to you. The Lord Chamberlain, cannot agree to a try out, on false production in the provinces, yours truly. Yes, you can see these are matters of pressing importance. It would be very difficult, for The Lord Chamberlain to ignore. The Lord Chamberlain, as of the censor in Egypt, is not accountable to parliament, or was not accountable to parliament. He was accountable directly to her majesty, the Queen. So, that when Lord Jenkins of Putney, a former arts minister, had attempted to table a parliamentary question. He was told that no minister had responsibility for The Lord Chamberlain, and the question therefore, could not be asked. The Lord Chamberlain's deliberations, where to be kept confidential. And that confidentiality, was to be tied to them that around MI5 or MI6. In fact, censorship was first introduced into Britain, in 1737, when the then prime minister, Robert Walpole, objected to Henry Fielding's latest play, which portray it in a light that he didn't enjoy. And so, empowered the Lord Chamberlain, to check all plays. The Lord Chamberlain viewed himself as a nation's conscience. It was for him to decide what was moral and what wasn't. Their role was to keep nice positions in the theater, to keep the theater clean. One of the writers that The Lord Chamberlain objected to, and most strongly, was in fact, no coward. The vortex was described by the Lord Chamberlain, again in one of his letters, in the green box. As a play, the word is adultery and its cocaine taking, among the upper middle classes, was a piece calculated to convey the worst possible impression of social conditions under which we live today. And therefore, the play was to be banned. H. H. Higgins, a solicitor, on the advisory board for the censor wrote, the will objection, is that it presents the prospects of today, in an odious light. And to that extent, it partakes of the nature of socialist propaganda. So no coward, was listed as a socialist propagandist. The Lord Chamberlain in his own handbook, this picture of a frivolous and degenerate set of people, gives a wholly false impression of society life. The time has come to put a stop to harmful influences of this kind. He found the play weak and unpleasant. He then referred to King George V, to see if his majesty would support a ban. The king wrote back that the play was truly disgusting, but will not be banned. The Lord Chamberlain, would fearlessly rule, where others fear to tread. So, for example, the Archbishop of Canterbury was unwilling, to either bless or damn, Eugène Brieux's 1917, play, Damaged Goods, about the threat of syphilis. But The Lord Chamberlain stated, venereal disease, seems to me, a subject essentially unfit for description or discussion. No matter how good the motive, for such discussion might be. In 1917, during a devastating war, that was tearing Europe apart. The Lord Chamberlain, appeal to the King to allow him time, so as to discuss, whether this play should be performed or not. In the end, the play was agreed, was given a license. Because, sorry, I've jumped a line. Was given a license, as all profits, were to go to the National Council for Combating Venereal Disease. Therefore, it was a charitable act. In fact, a number of classics also face this problem, Pirandello, Six Characters in Search of an Author, was a play that was held up for many years before receiving a license. As well, Strindberg, Miss Julie. In the first plays, what was censor, there is assaulted and disgusting atmosphere, which makes the immorality of the play glaring and crude. Then, there is the very questionable theme, in these days, of the relations between masters and servants, which this play tends to undermine. Indication was of course, that once English ladies saw this play, they would find themselves unable to control themselves with their servants. And turn me up to the '50s and the '60s, we find The Lord Chamberlain, taking an equally antagonistic line, to the writings of John Osborne, or Edward Bond. John Osborne plays with described as anti-authoritarian. Mr. Osborne is blatant, and which causes him to write from deliberately provocative way. The Lord Chamberlain is talking about the player patriots for me. By presenting homosexuals and then most attractive guys that is dressed as pretty women. It will to some degree cause the congregation of homosexuals and provide the means whereby the vice may be acquired. Edward Bonds, 1965 play, Saved, it was called, a revolt in the amateur play, the writing is vile and the conception worse. Peter Brook's play, U S, not only as the play beastly and left wing, but it is, judge the Lord Chamberlain, the offensive to responsible foreign opinion. Meaning of course, the government of the United States of America. In fact, The Lord Chamberlain consulted, the foreign colonial office, to see whether the foreign secretary would take a stand against the play. George Brown, the then foreign secretary, did not wish to intervene. So, The Lord Chamberlain decided to give in and allow the play a license. More recently, I've had experience of a different sort of censorship in Britain. The Lord Chamberlain was abolished in '68, with the 1979, you had Margaret Thatcher, elected for parliament. A fine match for any Lord Chamberlain. To the '60s and the '70s, or rather, by the end of the '60s, and also the '70s, censorship seemed to decrease in the theater. What changed a lot, was the fulton wall. Their new theme entered British politics, which is the theme of kith and kin. Britain went to war, in the early '80s, to retake, a group of bound rocks, in the South Atlantic, inhabited by a few sharecroppers and several thousand sheep. The theme that was used to drum up support was the theme of kith and kin. Although, given the number of sheep on the Island one was to justify and questioning just who the kith, and who the kin were? And quite what Mrs. Thatcher thought she was referring to. The theme of kith and kin became a part of, how the arts council decided to reorganize itself, as funds became more and more in demand, and as their budgets will cut. During the '80s, I was on one of the advisory committees of the arts council, and on a panel that gave out considerable amounts of money to small touring companies and to writers. Increasingly, we were being told that, companies that had large numbers of ethnic minority actors, were to be considered as community companies. That is, company performing to their communities, not companies that were rarely meant to break out of the ghetto, and sally forth into the big wide world. The clearest example, of this to me was in a discussion with one of the drama officers, in 1988, early '88. Where, I was trying to argue that, the idea of integrated casting was important. That is, that black people should be entitled to play any role in a play, and not only were a part is specified as being for a black or an Asian actor. The drama officer informed me that this due to the best of his knowledge was now common policy. And he had just been to see a play called Riddley Walker, at the Manchester Exchange Theater. Well, I'd seen Riddley Walker and yes, there were a large number of black actors in it. But they were playing the parts, they playing the non-speaking parts of a pack of hunting hounds. I've pointed this out to him, which caused him great embarrassment. And I also pointed out to him, that I felt that many of them would much larger parts and maybe less prestigious companies. But certainly, when the cuts came round and companies were been in cut, it was really the companies that were employing, the companies that were originally, so-called white companies. In other words, usually companies that were setup in the early '70s, when the number of black actors was a lot less. And we're now trying to aggressively adopt a policy of integrated casting. Foco Novo, for example, was a leading company of producing new plays. That had increasingly being producing plays by Afro-Caribbean writers or writers of Afro-Caribbean origin. And using actors, also, largely of Afro-Caribbean origin. And this was one of the first companies to be cut, and it has been followed by several other companies. The thing about how censorship operates, is that, it is an attempt at silencing a voice that one doesn't want to hear. On whether it's a classic or a new play, it is equally odious. So, for example, in the early part of the century, attempts were made in Britain to prevent performances of Oedipus Rex, a play by Sophocles. It was written several thousand years, previous to its first performance in Britain. Again, referring to The Lord Chamberlain's documents, The Lord Chamberlain wrote, I have very great doubts as to whether the public performance of Oedipus might not prove injurious. He went on to complain about it indecency. And he went on to talk about how it challenged authority, and questioned the legitimate sources of political power. This one is interesting because it suddenly illuminated something that had been misdefining for the last couple of months. Which is an Arabic language performance or production of King Lear, which I saw recently in Egypt. Now, King Lear, was produced by the British Royal National Theater Company, and was brought to Cairo last year. It was performed in full in English. The Taliea theater, which is the word meaning Vanguard. So, the Vanguard theater in central Cairo, which is supposed to be a new play theater. And sometimes it's referred to as the Experimental theater, did a new version of King Lear. Where as one of you wrote, that the long and boring speeches were cut, in fact, so much was cut out of the play, that it has to be built as a farce by William Shakespeare. In which the jester became the principal character. Some of you thought this was great and then until the play was all the more movie, for being a comedy. But what The Lord Chamberlain's thought about Oedipus, clarify for me, was the climate that censorship creates. It's a climate of concern and worry and fear, were everybody's worried about what their boss might think or the person who might give out the money might think. Or what somebody in the government might think. So, a play like King Lear, which is about a dodgy old man, who rather messes off his life in his kingdom and messes up his daughter's lives as well. To put it a bit crudely, could be construed as an ethic, just as The Lord Chamberlain said, an attack on the authority, and on the legitimate sources of power. So, better treat it as a farce, and then bill it as a play by Shakespeare, just in case anybody thinks it's by anybody else. The way censorship also, well, this is a casing point of how censor should work translation as well. Because, in fact, one way of dealing with foreign plays, where you don't have direct control over the writer. Is to ensure that the translator does your work for you. So, that the play is caught as it enters the language, at source. So, for example, Pinter's play, Mountain Language, was performed last year, in a new translation, by a university lecturer. Mountain Language, is a play about power, about sex, about language. And it is also a play about the Kurdish minority in Turkey. In fact, the Middle East, is an area of the world which is full of minorities. So, in fact, it is a very relevant play, and one of the few British plays that you can say truly addresses the Middle East audience. There are Kurdish minorities in Syria, in Iran, in Iraq. There are also other national minorities, such as Armenians, such as Nubians in Southern Egypt, such as Berber, in North Africa. So, it is a play that addresses the relationship between power and language. And so, it is a play that is a good candidate, for being mistranslated. The mistranslation, is then given credit and given authority by being published in prestigious states and magazines. It is also given prestige by being given a large production, a large-scale production, of somewhat, like the Cairo Opera House, which happened to this play, more than once. And then this way it becomes unnecessary, for anybody to refer to the original, because the translation is being given so much credit. But what essentially it also does, is that it creates an anxiety. Towards the end of last year, I think it was November, there was a seminar at the Cairo Opera House, in which I was asked to be a keynote speaker. And I mentioned in passing, but for me, one of the big differences between writing in English and writing in Arabic is that English is a language, created by its writers. While Arabic is the language, created by God. By that time meant, that the Arabic language is tied to the Quran, to the Holy scripture, the Muslim Holy scripture. The Quran is written in Arabic, It is the word of God, It is how God addressed mankind. The Bible, it is generally accepted as a translation, it maybe divinely inspired, but it's still a translation. The Quran is not a translation, It is the words as spoken. It is the yardstick by which the Arabic language is measured and judged. It is the source of our grammar, It is the source of our syntax, of our vocabulary. And any attempt at playing with the language, could be construed as an act of blasphemy. The result was an uproar, with people from the floor asking to speak and speaker after speaker standing up and saying that there's absolutely nothing wrong with taboos, that every society has its taboos. I'm actually using the English word taboos. With every society has its taboos, and it's quite natural as a writer, should respect that and respect the society and the people among whom he lives and not challenged those taboos. To me, that is one of the primary functions of any writer, Is to challenge taboos, is to question, is to challenge tradition, is to challenge what has become untruthful in any society. One of the principles and forces of censorship in Egypt, is the Islamic Research Foundation, at the university of Al-Azhar. Which is one of the oldest universities anywhere in the world. Its main subjects are Jurisprudence, Islamic Jurisprudence, and Language. It is generally refer to as an Islamic university, as a religious university. It's the university out of which most of, I was going to say clergy, but Muslims don't recognize that there is a clergy in Islam, was in fact, in practice, there is. Over the last year, the Islamic Research Foundation, has banned several books. One of them was a novel, The void in a Man's Mind, by a writer called Alaa Hamid. Because, it claimed that the book contained atheism, blasphemy and the denial of all religion. The writer was duly arrested in March, 1990. The trial started in May, for blasphemy, and is still continuing. He has been released on bail, after falling ill. Another victim of the Islamic Research Foundation, is Dr. Ahmed Abou Ahmed, who was translating a novel by Mario Llosa, the Peruvian writer who killed Molero. And he's charged by offending against public morality. So, in the country like Egypt one is facing two problems, one is facing the state center and one is facing a problem of religious censorship. What tends to happen is that, the anxiety, can reach such a stage that when the play does get banned, as in the case of Crossing the Water, that Greg mentioned, the writer, in this case, myself, find himself ostracized. People don't know quite how to treat you. You've been construed as a bad boy, but how bad? They don't really know. They know you're not likely to be arrested or anything but it's going to be difficult for you to get your work done. It's going to be difficult for you to get theaters to produce your plays. So, they want to appear as a good guys. So, what happened in my case, was I got several phone calls from people I barely knew, and telling me how naughty I'd been. And that really I should go to the censor and apologize. And what didn't help was I did go to the censor and argued with them three hours. I took with me a very well known journalist, so, it was a bit embarrassing for the censor throw me out because he just didn't know what my relationship to this guy was. And then when I was interviewed by several papers in Egypt about myself, and I mentioned censorship. I found that the articles were published without any mentioned the censorship. So, my very purpose for doing the interviews was negated. So, I wrote articles for the British papers about being censored in Egypt. And some of the material in the plays is like directly from that. I wrote an article for The Guardian, which was then banned from entering the country that day. I then went to the British embassy and picked up a copy, because that came in the diplomatic bag. Photocopy the article and distributed it, to make sure that everybody knew that there was an article. And this seemed to kind of enrage some people. Who then would meet me in the street and argue with me. By that stage, my level of paranoia which is normally quite high, it was getting higher. But somehow I had this drive to kind of, to increase the antagonism. And so, when the Royal Court got in touch with me and asked me to write something about the Middle East, I just couldn't resist writing something about censorship. I then duly informed everybody I knew there, that everybody working in theater in Egypt that I done that and showed them copies. And in fact, sent a copy to a magazine, who had asked me for some material to publish. Not surprisingly, they've decided not to publish it and it came back and they asked me if I had anything else? I said no, so, I'm not expecting to see anything in that magazine again. But something that must be understood, I think about and I'll wind up now, one of the things, as to why there's censorship in a country like Egypt. And why I think they will be censorship in any society, that is a religious based society. In the case of Egypt, now, I'll speak specifically about Egypt, but I think it can be generalized. You have the problem of language, the language of God, the language that you cannot play around with. There is a style of language that you are allowed to use in the theater, which is essentially colloquial. But in fact, its a stylization of the colloquial, So that there is even more vacuous than the colloquial. It becomes a difficult to deal with ideas, without resulting to using the language, as it should be written, as it should be spoken. And yet, if you were to do that, you can't get a license. And so, when I do that, I have to produce my plays privately. That is, I get a theater space, I do a deal with a theater. So far, I've been using one of the university theaters. I do a deal with the theater department, that I will adapt to play for them or I will do some workshops with students. They give me the theater space to use, and then, I put on the play, without any publicity, just using the telephone and without selling tickets. That isn't legal and it's permitted and it's considered to be a private performance. So, that's one way of getting ones work done. Another major problem that one faces, is to do with the present state in the Middle East. We are in decline, culturally, economically, we are in decline. Despite the oil, despite everything else, we are culturally in decline. This makes people very anxious, and there's constant references, to our glorious past. To the days when there was an Islamic empire, from the Southern borders of France, right across to the borders of China. And somehow, there's a feeling that, because we had a glorious past, we are going to have a glorious future. If only we can work out the formula, and this formula is buried somehow in our past. And therefore, the task is to uncover that formula. Tradition, being the remains of that glorious past, tradition, being the route to that past, cannot be challenged, should not be challenged, must not be challenged. Because if it does, then maybe, we will lose, what thread we have that connects us, to our glorious pasts, and therefore, lose our way to a glorious future. What seems to be left out of the equation completely, is any sense of the present and what's going on? And maybe it's because our present, isn't so attractive to us, that we want to avoid thinking about it. We've just had the third World War take place on our territory, where Arab fought Arab. Egypt, once a major ally of Iraq, was one of the main contributors to the war effort against the Iraq. Egypt contributed more troops than almost any other of the allied forces, except for the United States. So, what does one one's contending with, is a threat of, or its being accused of being authentic, of betraying one's past, of betraying a possible future. And therefore, you will hear an extract from a letter that I received after Crossing the Water was banned. Then after, I kicked up a fuss about it, you will hear this used in the play. And you will see just how much the censor can overreact, to what they construe as a provocation. Well, I'd like to hand over now to the cost of secret state. If anybody has any questions after the play, then I will be available for comment.\r\n\r\n- Do I introduce you?\r\n\r\n- You're comfortable like that? Okay.\r\n\r\n- What?\r\n\r\n- I said are you comfortable like that?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I face the audience.\r\n\r\n- The building is large and old. A lot of departments started straight in the '50s, now ends with the ministry of culture. There was a science side, no houses, government offices, as its common to the case. In the hallway, I asked the concierge for the offices of the censor, he points me away from the main stairwell and elevator, to what was once the garbage disposal chutes. There a small elevator, is been constructed. It takes a moment for me to see it. My eyes aren't accustomed to the dark. The elevator has three buttons, ground, nine and stop. 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I used to meet a lot of famous writers.\r\n\r\n- The theater's censor office has a darkly varnished desk, a filing cabinet, with a tired old couch. The walls are buried in pictures of posters. There is not a single book. No trace of a personality. Nothing to betray the interests or passions of a man who has occupied this room for the last 35 years.\r\n\r\n- In theory, we're concerned with matters of national security. In practice, that's anything that touches on politics, religion, or general morality. Every script that is brought to our office comes in three copies with a letter from the producing theater. This letter must ask for a license to produce the aforementioned play and name the writer. The letter must be signed by the producer and carry the theater's official stamp. A necessary duty in the form of a postal order must be paid before the script can be accepted.\r\n\r\n- When one gets into a rut, then they look for anything to break out. That's why when they offered me the job, I jumped at it. It was an opportunity to keep working with writers. It certainly wasn't a political decision. I'm not terribly good on politics. I just spot the obvious things and the sexual bits of course.\r\n\r\n- I don't go to the theater. My job ends at the dress rehearsal. What happens after that is the responsibility of the theater's surveillance people. I stopped going to the theater. It's not like it used to be. There wasn't the same atmosphere to give the theater the bad reputation. I remember the good old days. 20 years ago, the government had a culture policy. This was then one of the central departments. Staff intake had to be cleared with the securities, state security. We were considered part of the intelligence community.\r\n\r\n- I had taken maternity leave, and I came back looking for more money. Working for the government, you always have security. It's the money that's not so great. When I heard there was a vacancy in the department I had applied for, it was weeks before I heard anything. My first job was in the office tearing pages out of foreign magazines. I got to see a lot of pictures of naked bodies. You become self-conscious that way. As a woman I mean. I suppose it was that that made me decide I should dress so conservatively with scarves and long dresses.\r\n\r\n- As referred to your letter to us concerning your request for agreement to permit the theater script \"Autumn Quail\" to be produced at the end of the summer season. We formally notify you that the permit to produce this play has been refused, as it conflicts with the higher interests of the state, because of what it contains of offense to our country's people, its leaders, its history and civilization. This is in accordance with law 430 of the year 1955.\r\n\r\n- We were toughest on television. That's a whole separate department as our films and video. We ban about 1/3 the pop songs submitted, generally on the grounds of contributing public morality. It's not that we object to sex if it's wholesome and within the bounds of marriage. I am a father myself. My daughter's 17. I'll have peace of mind when she settles down and gets married.\r\n\r\n- This letter, 10 months to a charge of treason. I won't be able to get a theater to produce any of my plays. Directors get nervous. I have given lectures on the public responsibilities of a writer. I've already had one commission canceled, and I think my latest play isn't going to get performed.\r\n\r\n- I ban outright maybe three or four plays a year. The rest usually get scenes cut. Sometimes, I can suggest a piece of dialogue that will fill the gap. I tell the writers it's all a question of balance. If you say something political in one place, then you must balance it somewhere else in the script with the opposite. Like that, you're not telling the audience what to think.\r\n\r\n- There used to be a book that we had once, which contained all that was forbidden. One of the lads once called it our bible. I remember we laughed then. Of course, nobody would say that now, not in the present climate. Writers would come and argue, quoting from the book. It was withdrawn in the '70s. The whole process was liberalized. Made more general. Like that, more things were stopped.\r\n\r\n- I've always had a soft spot for writers. I remember Miguel Roman. He used to sit on that couch, just where you're sitting. He'd want to know why his scripts were cut. He could get hot under the collar, and I'd have the cleaners in to have him thrown out. And he'd come back, and I'd have him thrown out again. And again. He killed himself you know. He put his head in a gas oven. It's difficult being graded. It puts a terrible strain on a person.\r\n\r\n- The homosexuality is not the only type of relationship in the play. The homosexuality is a metaphor. There is not as much as a button undone. All dialogue on the subject is less than half a page. It doesn't warrant this sort of letter.\r\n\r\n- The homosexual relationship between the Englishman and the Egyptian. I don't see how it can be a metaphor. It's normal for English people. They have laws protecting themselves doing it to each other. It's completely normal for them. Then there is the Jewish character. He is well-rounded, he is sympathetic. He has no contradictions. I can tell you any Jew who sees this play will want to come up and want to kiss you. Do you want to be kissed by a Jew?\r\n\r\n- It's not so much this play. I may never get another play done with a letter like this hanging over me.\r\n\r\n- Then there's the language problem. You use the classical language, which is the Arabic language in its fullest form. It's the language of Koran. That is, so to speak, the language of God. Anybody using that language incorrectly is debasing it. The language of God can't be used as ordinary dialogue. That would be blasphemy. Better use the colloquial. It's cliche, but that just means everybody can understand it.\r\n\r\n- There was an article one time in a foreign magazine. It said the president of the Republic was a very rich man. I marked it to be torn out of all the magazines before distribution to the newsstands. It was a very interesting article. I wanted to keep a copy of it, but they don't allow us photocopiers in the office.\r\n\r\n- You have to know a lot about dramatic theory to do this job properly. I banned a play once at the dress rehearsal. I okayed the speech only to find that the director had it spoken in a black-out. I said, \"Stop there! This speech is meant as a statement. This speech is meant to be a statement of an opinion by a character. If it's done in a black-out, it becomes the voice of the subconscious.\" The director wouldn't budge. I banned the play. The next morning when I came into work, I found two men from the presidential office waiting for me. The director had gone straight to the president of the Republic. In those days, you could disappear without anyone knowing about it. I said to them, \"Are you going to hear my side of the story, or do I call my mother and tell her to look for me in a prison camp?\" That broke the ice. They laughed and said, \"Don't worry.\" I explained my decision, they saw the preview, and upheld the ban.\r\n\r\n- There was an article in a foreign newspaper about a . The article was on page 13, the arts page. We could have put it out, but they listed it on the front page. We had to stop all the copies at the airport.\r\n\r\n- I respect a writer's point of view, but it's a matter of flexibility. You can't go through life being rigid. Circumstances change. You have to change with them. That's the price.\r\n\r\n- I see my job as nurturing. We're often the first real critics a new writer has to face. Our job is to encourage without letting them overstep their mark. We always cut their scripts, then ask them to see us. That way we can talk to them. If they get the message, writers always do, then we take some of the cuts back. It's a process of education.\r\n\r\n- Many writers have said to me, \"Thank God you're here.\" You see, like that, they're not the only people responsible for what they write. It liberates them from responsibility. It frees them to write. We sometimes get a play in translation. Usually, we encourage the translator to self-censor. Like that, we catch the play at its source as it enters the language. Often, we can help with arranging publication and even productions. That way, the text becomes accepted as the definitive translation, so nobody need refer back to the original.\r\n\r\n- I have a personal relationship with many of the writers. I encourage them to phone me up and talk over their ideas, so there's no consequences in the form of censor intervention. I always tell my writers they can trust me. I'm like a mother to them. I worry what could happen. I don't want another Salman Rushdie affair on my doorstep. If we read everything first, we'll spot the problems, and then nobody's going to be issuing death threats against our writers. We're a public service, and we can also help the writer. We're the writer's first line of defense.\r\n\r\n- We have to make sure that the government's viewpoint isn't contradicted. We have to take our cue from what the people in the government say. There's a lot of second guessing. The government mind can change from one day to another. For example, Saddam Hussein. A year ago, there was stories of Egyptian workers being murdered in Iraq, and of course, before that, he gassed those critics' villages. Can the president of an Arab government, with whom we have diplomatic relations, be accused of murder? At the time, our government had denied those stories, so this was what was presented in newspapers. Now there's a war in the Gulf, and we're on the same side as the Americans, so all that was banned then about Saddam can be published. Of course, all the other stuff that was published then is now banned.\r\n\r\n- Okay, thank you. I don't know if there are any questions or anything, or shall we all go for a drink? Anybody have anything to say before I make a quick exit? No? Very good, well thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Hey!\r\n\r\n- That is disgusting!\r\n\r\n- Two-thirds of the way through the play and just thought .\r\n\r\n- Did they do it, I mean, did they test it somewhere else, I mean, where they do it? 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