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My name is Jim Dubin and I'm one of the students on the committee. I just like to remind everybody of tomorrow's program and if anybody doesn't have one of these, they can pick one up and tomorrow will be a noon film and then an three o'clock lecture on Media and Social Change International Implications by Linda Busby. And then another film at 5:30 and an evening lecture on the Problems of Third World Bias by Less Payne. I encourage you to attend those and also to tell your friends about our program this week and encourage them to attend the rest of the lectures and speakers that we have until Friday. Tonight, we're very pleased to have an internationally renowned speaker here at Iowa State. We had a little difficulty in arranging his availability here which a little bit relates to the problems in international communication, the problems and getting ideas from other countries into different countries. We were able though through a lot of work to arrange for our speakers visa and we're very pleased. Our speaker is a renowned Marxist Economist from Belgium, he studied at The Free University in Brussels, received his doctorate at the Free University in Berlin and presently is on the faculty at The Free University in Brussels. He's an author of numerous books. He is also well known in Europe as a contributed to a number of ideas for the advancement of Marxist theories, particularly his work on the long waves concept and also his work on development of the third department. Those are two areas which he's well-respected in Europe and his reputation is quickly spreading to this country. He also has, like I said, published a number of books and those include a book on, the long ways to development, a book entitled \"Late Capitalism\" and a number of articles and publications. In addition, I've known him now for a couple of days. I first read his books about a year ago. I find him a very enjoyable person who also has a strong commitment to activism. He has a strong activist history, which is actually too long to go into but his commitment to activism is just as impressive as his academic credentials. So with that, I'd like to introduce our speaker tonight, Dr. Ernest Mandel.\r\n\r\n- Good evening, in the last 40 years the multinational corporation has emerged as the predominant form of organization of capitalist enterprise. There is hardly any capitalist country in the world in which multinational corporations are not dominating the scene do not represent the predominant corporations of that country. Multinational corporations are the result of a long process of internationalization of capital, internationalization of the productive forces and I would add internationalization of politics and of the class struggle. Before the first world war and in the inter-war period, we had some cases of multinational corporations, but they were generally restricted to the field of raw material output. It is only in the late 30s at the beginning of the 40s, that multinational corporations come into their own in manufacturing industry and in banking, this is to say that we get corporations which produce and not only distribute produce have production centers in many countries, that would be the main characteristic of multinationals or transnationals. The problem is a little bit more complicated if we look at it from the point of view of ownership from that point of view, of course, many of the multinationals are still very national, their ownership is dominated by capitalists of a single country, the exception being moderate way the European multinationals where there is some spread of ownership amongst several European countries. That is why it is justified to speak today of three categories through three main categories of multinationals, the North American United States multinationals, the European ones and the Japanese ones. Who's the ownership being decisive for judging the nature of these multinationals. This classification corresponds to the reality today. It might change tomorrow, might be some real internationalization of the ownership of capital too but for the time being this is still limited. When I say the multinational corporation emerges as the predominant form of capitalist organization on the late capitalism. I mean by that, that it comes out of a process of technological change of growth of the productive forces in an international sense of internationalization of the productive forces in which the national market becomes too small for the productive capacity of that corporation, in which the need to decentralize output is the result of the capacity of the equipment to produce more than what can be bought essentially by the customers of one, even one very big nation. In that sense, there is a... What you could call technical fatality of an economic determinism in the development of these multinational corporations. Marxist have noted for a long time the tendency of the product force us to outgrow the limits of the nation state. of the sovereign nation state and with the coming of age of the multinationals, this historical trend comes into its own on a very, in a very significant, in a very high resolute way you see that in order to keep up with technical progress. The capitalist firm asked to outgrow one single country one single nation even the largest in the world and has to operate on a much broader scale. Now this process of the formation of the multinational corporation already implies many, many changes, you can call it progress or you can deny that it is progressive that's value judgment which we do not need to introduce at this stage of the analysis. This process of formation of the multinational corporation implies a very rapid extension of information networks in order to be able to lead from a central point be it only on the field of finance of financial control, of income control, plus the cash flow control and things like that. Operations in several countries, you have to have an information equipment and information organization, which is far beyond anything not only private corporations but even states had 100 or 50, 75 years ago. And in that sense, the possibility of the multinational corporation is tightly linked with progress of communication networks with progress, stepping up quickening of the pace of information circulation within these networks. There is a certain correlation. This is of course a nasty thing to say. There's a certain correlation between these advancements in information, communication and the second world war and military organization. Military organization is the root of many of these advancements in the communication network but again, this is a side remark, a value judgment, which should not have any implications on the field of the analysis itself. And once you see that you see the connection between the way in which multinationals operate and the need of a very solid and congruent infrastructure on the field of information and communication. You start to view in a certain sense, the history of the last 35, 40 years as a constant dialectic, a constant interaction, a constant mediation between these two fields. And they work in a very complex, this interaction works in a very complex and combined way. Each progress of the communication industry, each progress of information techniques enables multinational corporations to spread broader and broader around the globe and each progress in the constant international concentration and centralization of capital creates the pre-conditions for a new leap forward in the communication and information networks and in the specific communication industries. Another certain point, the threats are put together, are combined by the multinational corporations becoming predominant themselves in the organization of communications. This took a long time because this is specialized branch of industry which had its own historical roots and its own historical developments, telephone, telegraph, the mass media, television later in the field of computerization and before the hugest outfits of finance capital and the biggest multinational corporations would move into these fields, some time gap and some intermediary results have to be waited for. This also is a general law of the development of capitalism when you have fields of output, branches of industry of service in which there is a lot of technological progress going on in which the rhythm of technological innovation is stepped up, generally the largest outfits of finance capital and of huge monopolies in this case. The multinational corporations have a wait and see attitude, they stay out, they watch things on the sidelines, they leave the purely innovative activities, initiatives to smaller firms, sometimes new firms, sometimes medium-sized firms who do the experimental job, very often break their necks on it, lose that money and only after some of these stories become success stories, do the large corporations move in. We have had just a very classical repetition in the example of this law in the field of the so-called mini computer or home computer, where the market was left and output was left to small and newer firms for several years before the giants like IBM moved in but of course, when they move in, then the thing becomes, when the production becomes profitable on a large scale. They move into kill and they will probably eliminate the large majority of the competitors who try to take advantage of this free field but do not have the capital power, do not have the purely financial strength to keep competition with such a giant as IBM. When the multinational corporation moves into ownership or control of the new communication technique, it can support itself on the tremendous cost of entry into this field in its most sophisticated or most advanced forms. There again, one example leaps to the mind immediately, this is the whole of satellites and space basis for setting up worldwide global communication networks. The cost for setting up a satellite is so big that only the largest private corporations, initially one thought that only States could do it, but no, some private firms but not many, probably not more than two or three on a world scale have the means of moving in and thereby establishing monopolies in the field of world communications, monopolies with control potentials which have some frightening aspects under which we will have to insist. But before I come to that, I want to stress one minor and a less analyzed aspect of this process, which is the very technical or socio-technical nature of information in itself under capitalism market economy in general and on the late capitalism multinational corporation dominated capitalism, more specific. One of the many myths about the market economy is that it establishes some type of equality or is based on some type of equality between all the businesses or the economic agents active on the field. And if there is one field where you can disprove that most easiest, it is precisely in the field of information. The average businessman, the average small business has very little information, for him the market is really anonymous, he can only get some ideas of what is going on by trial and error but the multinational corporation, the big monopolies have access to such an amount of information that they suffer rather from too much and not from too many. They can gather information about customer behavior about price movements, about interest rates from all over the world in a few seconds time and they have their further tremendous advantage against weaker, less organized competitors. And the high point of that advantage was just before the present communication revolution was the present revolution in communication technique, this situation can change and represents therefore a potential of rather deep change in social economic organization. I would say like with all elements of technical process, progress, it is neutral in and by itself. It's not reactionary as some people think, it is not progressive, it is neutral, it depends on who uses it and for what purposes and what are the predominant social and political forces in the field. Theoretically with data collecting and time sharing, any small businessmen today in the world would have access easily and at low price to the same type of information and the same mess of information which was available only to perhaps 100 or 150 top banks and multinationals 20 years ago. There is no technical obstacle anymore for that access to information, anybody can get it, and when I say small businesses are even below the truth because even private persons, journalists, a person's active in politics, professors, teachers, anybody can have access to that, there is no technical or financial obstacle anymore 'cause the price is cheap, wouldn't pay very much money for having access to that information which is enormous, absolutely the mind is completely scared, you get completely scared when you see the mess of information you could get pulled up. I would say generally the trend would be not that the difficulty is that there is not enough information, the difficulty would be that you would not be able to select without a lot of preparation and a lot of knowledge, the limited, the limits of the information which you want to get, incidentally, this might perhaps surprise some of you. The same thing is true already for information on the so-called socialist countries, which were for a long time under the guide of secrecy, which was probably never except on the wall conditions, very founded cut-off from the rest of the world by great lack of information today, this is not true at all. And the institutes around the world who are specialized in Soviet studies or Eastern European studies, China is a little bit more difficult because of the language but that just the language barrier that has nothing to do with data. But Eastern Europe and the Soviet union, I would say the big problem there is exactly the same, it's not that there is too little information, there is too much and you don't know how to select them sometimes how to find your way through many conflicting data but the data go into the billions. It's just too much there's not too at all that you don't know what's going on or that people don't have access or cannot have access to what's going on. I myself many years now have defended, rather outrageous thesis for many of you that this revolution in communications technique is a ideal instrument for socialism, for building a classless society and especially for worker self-management because the big obstacle for workers managing industry and the economy has always been set to be the monopoly of knowledge by let us say not the ruling class, which doesn't know so much but the monopoly of knowledge by intellectuals, technicians, technocrats, well most of you and myself people in that category. We should be very modest of course because we don't know so much either but okay, that has been the talk of the town for many, many decades. Well, that argument is completely out now, there is no basis to that anymore. Any worker's council, any group of elected workers in a factory, which wants to have access to data to what's going on and in its own factory and in its town or branch of industry or its region or in its nation or even internationally has the same technique, the same potential of time-sharing and access to collected data in large computers at its disposal and this is a very, very powerful weapon for reasonable, common sense management by people who have not very high level of training. You can have access to this data rather simply without big complication and you can have a constant flow of these information from decentralized units of decision-making to centralized units and back and forth. If one thing is about the technical difficulties, the Soviet planning system had to meet and still meets because of its bureaucratized nature but also because it's low technical starting point where millions and millions of formulas, I think you call it also so in English sheets of paper traveled back and forth and we had a whole army of millions of people does nothing else but the reading, transcribing, re-reading, sending back this type of paper masses. You think that one single computer can replace all that and of course put all these bureaucrats out of a job, but that's I wish them well, that's precisely what I wish for them. So when you think about the technical possibilities, you have no for real democratic planning, you see the potential that's of course not realized at all automatically. But you see the potential of this communication revolution for really democratically self-managed economy and society. Part of you might, the audience might think that, that is all very utopian and not yet on the agenda. And might as well tell you that it has been several times already on the agenda and the Polish workers of solidary, just to give that example where at the high point of the movement in the month of September, October of 1981, thinking around these terms in a very concrete and practical manner because they saw there an instrument, the possibility for decentralized management of a socialized economy which would make that management a thousand more competent and more democratic than it is today. So you have that potential by the communication revolution, but at the same time, you have the dominance in actual life of this over this evolution, over this revolutionary technique and potential by the multinational corporations which move now into the act on a very broad scale, try to control everything in the communications industry and to death, big weight and in the electronics industry and in the space industry and in banking can achieve a very high level, a very high degree of actual control. No, again, I would say the practical consequences of that from the point of view of the efficiency of the system, of the economic system of the preservation of democratic freedoms is in and by itself neutral, there is no predetermined line of match, which makes that with a computer that will be more tyrony or more monopoly, of monopolistic, technological hints of more control over the market by multinationals than there was before the computer revolution. There is nothing which is pre-ordained pleaded but there is one nexus. There is one if you want to call it like that imminent logic in this combination of multinational monopolistic, corporations and communication revolution, computer evolution, which has ominous undertones. And this strangely enough has not so much to do with the technique itself as with the contents of some of the branches, which branch off this communication, this computer revolution, this is not so much the transmission of information as the contents of the information. There of the communication. There is a real trend. I'll just give you a piece of information, which might shock you. It shocked me very much because perhaps because I'm old fashioned. The other day I read in a large, widely circulated English Sunday newspaper, weekend paper that they have today in London, the city of London, more video shops than libraries. There's a turning point in contemporary history because what it really means is that a basic cultural change is starting which consequences are extremely, extremely dangerous. All of you, you will understand. I don't think you need to be a socialist or even revolutionary socialist to understand that all of you will understand that such a change narrows the possibility of choice, narrows pluralism, and therefore the very basis democracy in a tremendous way. You have millions of books. You don't have millions of films. Absolutely not there is no comparison between the number of films you have and the number of book you have. It's in a completely different league. It goes down from millions or hundreds of thousands to a couple of hundred. The choice becomes extremely narrow, extremely narrow. I don't think this tendency has already broken too, have an optimist to believe that they will be big reaction. I don't think the printing trade is out of business and that the professional writing books and the occupation consumer occupation of reading is disappeared but that there is a decline is very evident. And that the decline has something to do with other media and something to do with this revolution in communication, in the techniques of transmitting information and the condone of information is also rather self-evident. It will be a fight and all on the side of the book writers and readers. And I hope my side is to say the best will win but it's touch and go. It's absolutely not certain that there will not be a definite and extremely dangerous decline in the right writing, the printing, the editing and the reading of books. There have some science now that is underway already international publisher craft with which I have nothing to do. I'm not speaking not defending any material interests here is in a very big crisis in this general economic crisis. A number of bankrupt publishers in Western Europe, in the United States and in Japan is in Australia is very high. And there again, the multinationals coming to their own one big publisher after another is bought up by big monopolistic operations, which has nothing to do with publishing, which just leads this as a conglomerate, as a site activity, besides beer bro-ing, ball-bearings, transportation of oil or refining of aluminum of boxes. So this also, you have to see as a consequence of this trend. But the greatest aspect is not even that is not the only the decline of the written culture. If you can call it like that with everything which is linked to it in the history of human civilization and human progress, the biggest threat is in the contents as I said before. You just imagine the scene and it's not science fiction. By no means just imagine the scene. Instead of the arrogant person which is speaking here and trying to teach lessons to bourgeois society and denying that tens of millions of people can't be wrong, I say they can be wrong and they are wrong so it's very arrogant of me to say that, just imagine is in the place of this arrogant person sitting here, little machine stands here. And the machine talks probably much better English than I do certainly is not a slightest doubt probably even much better, delivering the message much more professional. But what is the message? Who will choose the message? I can tell you that in advance, the present video industry, producing industry in a world is controlled by probably not more than 10 corporations on a world scale which means 10 corporations, 10 firms will determine what lesson what message you will hear not millions of people, not thousands of people, not different tendencies, different political groupings, different ideologies, different religions, different philosophies, whatever is no just 10 corporations and they will not even control it, I will be even nastier with them than some people are. They will not even control it for bad purposes, for purposes of mind control or sinister conspiracies to get people involved in some diabolical political schemes, it's much worse than that. They will just control it for purely commercial reasons. They will just make a market research what sells best and that they will produce and all the rest they will not produce. And you will have thousands of messages, thousands of alternatives, thousands of possibilities of human development of change, even of scientific inquiry, which will just disappear. It will just disappear because nobody will give the message anymore. Even in teaching, perhaps especially in teaching. This is a very concrete possibility today that the living teacher will be replaced by a machine and machine prepared by the possibilities are made possible by the development of these revolutions in communication dominated by the multinational corporations, by monopoly capital or which is not better than that don't want to be biased in this dominated by government, by a state that's not one inch better. That's exactly the same thing. And therefore, replacing. Again, I will not even speak about conspiracies to educate people in a totalitarian waves again, worse than that. The purely technical implication of this technique means the disappearance of dialogue you can interrupt me you can't interrupt the machine try, she will see it will not work. You will have robots which will answer the human voice yes, but you will not have teaching robots which will discuss with students because happily, the one thing they cannot do is predict all the questions which will be asked that can only be done by the creative human mind when it is facing the question. And the machine will just not dialogue with you. This means the dialogue will be out. As long as there is a teacher standing besides the machine that's different than there is not such a big change. And even you could say it's some progress. But once the teacher disappears and again, the commercial implications, the straightforward profitability calculation, which is at the basis of that replace public service in education and also in medicine, it's exactly the same trend by a machine because it is cheaper. And you have to eliminate the teacher who stands beside because if you put a machine besides every teacher, of course, it's not cheaper it's more expensive. So in order to make it cheaper and to make it profitable as private enterprise, you have to eliminate the teacher and in that case, you eliminate dialogue. And there we come again to the more philosophical if we can call it like that philosophy of history, aspects of this communication revolution once you replace the written word and civilization cultural, spiritual civilization, mental civilization, more civilization based on the written word and the dialogue, you replace it by machines, then you get of course, a tremendous potential of historical regression. You cannot call it otherwise. You will get a regression on the level of alphabetization of the capacity of children to think because the capacity to think, is the capacity to initiate the capacity to create the capacity to act independently. And this is very closely linked with the capacity to develop language and to develop dialogue and communication into communication between human beings with the machine. I don't say there is no possibility of communication, zero that would be an exaggeration but it's on a completely different level. And this has very, very grave implications for the development of couch. So my conclusion would be in and by itself, the revolution in communication technique, in the gathering and transmitting of information is neutral, is not neither regressive, not progressive, conservative or revolutionary. It is just a tool, like many other tools which mankind has developed in the last centuries. Last thousand years in the last 10,000 years, if you want to start as an elliptical revolution. But on the special specific particular social conditions, which remain dominated by the profit motive, by private property, by competition, by calculation of production costs and gains of techniques for private groups of people and not for society as its whole, in its totality, the danger that these communication revolutions will be used for purposes contrary to the interests of mankind, contrary to the interests of progress, contrary to the interests of cultural development and of cultural pluralism are very big. There are great obstacles, some professions will want to defend themselves and their right to do that. The teaching profession being which I am involved being one of the most evident ones because in this case, they really not do not defend corporative interests or egoistic interests but they defend general interests of civilization and cultural obstacles will be a very great obstacle for the multinationals completely dominating the field because happily, human culture itself is so diversified that to reduce it to five or 10 patterns determined on a world scale by a few technocrats of a few multinational corporations will be very difficult. The smaller nations, the smaller languages, the smaller nationalities, will revolt will not accept, they will not accept English as universal standard, as they will not accept Russian or they will not accept Chinese as universal China. And we have seen through history happily, I must say not a defender of nationalism, even a small nationalities but I must say this is a very big stumbling block for the great equalizers is to say the great uniforms on the cultural field they will be very hard to be very hard for them to reproduce the contents of the cassette in 150 or 250 different languages. So we have there some safeguards against total standardization, some obstacles, some possibilities of resistance, possibility that the working class, the toiling masses used these techniques for emancipatory liberating purposes are very real but the danger also is very real. And I wanted to draw your attention to that danger. Thank you for listening. So calm.\r\n\r\n- Okay, we're ready for questions from the floor. Once to be first? Edward?\r\n\r\n- Making money what the deciding factor and what we'll be taking that is for the love of money as a general characteristic of our culture?\r\n\r\n- Well making money will be certainly the purpose for the multinational cooperation and training people to make money the main making of money the main purpose in their life will be certainly one of the perhaps not openly but structurally motifs of the message which will be spread that seems rather evident. This is to say from the counters point of view all those which we call non conventional descending voices which are present after all in world civilization world culture since a long time will be much greater danger of being eliminated. But we will defend ourselves, we have defending ourselves since thousands of years am not so pessimistic about the outcome but the odds are greater if you have to do with a sophisticated technology.\r\n\r\n- We all speak up and maybe.. Dr Mandel if you could repeat the question.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, okay.\r\n\r\n- Maybe over there.\r\n\r\n- We've seen for research and development in science an technology as you've said the machines will completely take over. And still there not thinking machines and that will take a long time to come around. But all the research that is done to make this machine possible is still done by human beings.\r\n\r\n- Obvious.\r\n\r\n- What kind of future in the science, medicine and other grounds and research field will receive when this kind transition take place?\r\n\r\n- Well the questions is what will be the trends of development of research activities when the computers become more and more important they can't take over completely yet and the questions says because there are not really thinking indecently machines but in this intermediary phase what would be the general direction of scientific research? Well though again the relationship is very complex. It's not uniform and its not ready. And its not a direct line. The computer evolution gives possibility to stepping up and extending scientific research and scientific verification in a fantastic way. Because the number of data to which a scientist has no access is without comparison is even valid for 20 years ago not to say in the time Einstein nevertheless this didn't prevent Einstein from achieving what he did. So one should make put direct identification sign between greater access to a greater number of information to greater possibility or verification but is rather an element for stepping up research and scientific progress. The other side of the story is represented by the tendency towards restriction of access for commercial competitive reasons which is helped by the growth of the data. The individual inventive working in small ship is not out involves still invent a lot of things it will still be passionate of invention as we have seen clearly in the last 30 years. 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Dr.-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36629/file/105750#t=1844.165,1845.366"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36629/file/105750/transcript/22766/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e (applause)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36629/file/105750#t=1845.366,1847.783"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36629/file/105750/transcript/22766/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e I also wish to thank everyone here for 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They think that the outcome in the long run will give them more results. And if they streamline and predetermine everything but that is the big, but it depends on their good will. I mean, it depends, it becomes a completely arbitrary matter now, what the corporation decides. The few benign autocrats, bad autocrats, the benign autocrats, will take some nice decisions and some good things will come out of it. The bad autocrats will take the bad decisions and some bad things will come out of it. But it still autocratic decisions, decisions which will be taken by a very small number of people. The people who decide on the research lines in these huge institutions. And I think there again, there is a real threat. There is a real threat to freedom. Science cannot develop outside of a field of freedom, free debate, free dialogue. And again, I say, with the machine you don't dialogue. The machine just assembles data. In order to have dialogue discussion, pluralistic debate you need another climate, cultural climate. And there a lot of damage can be done. A lot of damage can be done with many, many grave consequences. We have seen that several times in the history of the 20th century already. This is not the first time that it happens, but this time as the result of the computer revolution, the risks are greater. Again, the opposite is also true. The potential for stepping up and making more creative research is obviously there because the semblance of data. If everybody would have free access to them and if the decision would be taken on a very democratic basis, then, of course, the potential of a huge progress is there. This depends on the social and political, the environment much more than on the technique itself.\r\n\r\n- You describe the situation I think in which either a great deal of diversity could be lost by multinationals controlling the information or, on the other hand, for a great deal of diversity that exists with large numbers of people. Are either one of those models very stable as far as the future is concerned?\r\n\r\n- We should be very cautious in making prophecies on the future. The only thing which we can do, and that's already a mistake method is projecting extrapolating nascent trends and generally people who do that get wrong. Because always when you said there are only two possibilities there's always a third one or a fourth one which pops up that you see throughout the history again and again and again. I can only describe what are present trends and present possibilities as far as we can see them. I would say that if it is true that these two models are not completely stable, the difference between them, I mean the divergence of historical and social development is so big that intermediary models seem unlikely. What is much more likely is variations of one of the two along one of the two parts but not really intermediate parts you can have. And we have seen that even in the present depression. A certain loss of control of monopolies over certain branches, a rebirth of competition, a rebirth in that sense of variety and the differentiation that is true. And we can have in the case of a real democratic and self-managed economy and society a setback in a more despotic of state control direction. Both I would consider as varieties of the basically divergent models because the difference is so big from the start that it is hard to see how a third way could develop. Here, our good friends the liberal economists are in great trouble because none of these two paths they like and I can understand them. I have sympathy from them, but unfortunately that's how the world is going with this type of technology. And to go back to a phase of small independent and I must add ignorant entrepreneurs who just act out of instinct, of guess and guess correctly, that is very difficult with the present technology. I wouldn't say it's completely great sympathy for those who say small is beautiful but I have great doubts whether they will come into their own, especially in the electronics industry and the communications. Great doubts.\r\n\r\n- In theory, free market situation. When the choices get limited and people can make their choices by deciding whether they watch channel five or channel six, given this kind of narrowing of choices and the big corporations producing more and more of less and less alternatives, where are the places? What are the terrains of struggle in which people can? This institution produces engineers, designers scientists of all kinds. Where within that corporate world are there places that struggle for keeping open a variety of forms of pluralism about choices?\r\n\r\n- Unfortunately, on that question my answer is not so optimistic. Although I know that many colleagues, left colleagues also, do not share my pessimism. Theoretically, there is the possibility you are talking about channels and television. I will take exactly that picture or that field of social activity. Theoretically, it is within the power of even small associations. You don't need to assemble tens of millions of people to achieve that. It's in the power of smaller associations, benevolent associations, groups of people coming together. If they have the sufficient technological know-how which they can acquire at university, a fairly low level of responsibility in private corporations to launch an independent network, it's not impossible. They can do that. And they have done that. They have done that in France. Now there is an explosion of independent radio networks. A real explosion. Probably something similar happened in the United States some time ago because radio is not so important anymore. So you can do that. But if you make the balance sheet of the impact that's where the real problem is, not in the technical possibility of access. Of course, I do not believe these satellites. That's another story, but okay. Is this the most sophisticated worldwide network? You don't need that. If you want to be more modest stick yourself to one metropolitan area. There is no big difficulty in setting up an independent television network of a high intellectual or cultural level, which gives objective information which the big controlled networks would not give. The real problem is how many people will look at that network. The real problem is that you get a real repeater infernal logic of manipulating public opinion which then predetermines what is seen what is watched and what are the contents which are preferred again for purely commercial reasons. Not because of a wish to dominate, although that is there too, but this is not the main motivation. The main motivation is purely commercial but you get a vicious circle. Once you are in that vicious circle it's very difficult to break out of it. Then the independents will only speak to the people who are not manipulated by the big networks but these people are a small minority. So you get too independent if you want circuits that one represents 90 or 95% of the audience and the other represents 5%. So where are you? If you keep pluralism for 5% of the audience it doesn't advance you very much. That's the experience with independent newspapers. That's the experience with independent radio stations and that's the experience with independent television networks. We had a very sad example in France in the last four or five years, one of the big innovations which came out of May '68, and which came as a big surprise. The late Jean-Paul Sartre was one of the main financial, not intellectual initiators of that, was the setting up of an independent new left. Even the very far left daily paper in Paris, Liberation, which became a real success. That's one of the few examples in the world in the last 20, 30 years. Again, the real success, they sold as many copies as Le Monde in the Paris area and they overwhelmingly beat humanity and political party papers. And they were really independent. They were a group of young intellectuals coming out of the May '68 revolt not exactly of my political preference, but I judged it in a very objective way. And it was a big success and a big hope for the left. There you had one example that you could beat the system. What happened as a result of their success? They were absorbed by the system exactly as a result of that success because they broke that vicious circle. Then it became a big, a big thing for the big corporations to move in, for the press lots to move in and buy them out. And they could do that easily because with the French press system, the prices of newspapers being government determined, the more you print and sell, the more money you lose. They had a much less deficit when they sold 20,000 copies than when they sold 100,000 copies. You sell them because papers are subsidized. So the bigger you grow, the bigger your deficit grows. So when they were really successful from a point of view circulation, they sold out of course the individual, it has a lot of responsibility. I, the French left, doesn't like him very much days. A rather nasty maneuver is to hit his secret site or his secret desires for 10 years. And then they came into the open. He has sold out to Groupe Monde which is one of the biggest monopolies in the mass media field. They leave him political, independent. They are very clever people. I mean, again, this is, this is not the nightmare story of big brother taking over. It's much more subtle and much more dangerous and much more ominous precisely for that reason. I mean, they leave him some independence but they control the thing. I mean, the day they want to clamp down, they clamp down. They control it commercially now from the bottom after it has been such a big success. So you see that. The limitations of the possibilities of independent operators. My own feeling is that you have to solve the problem at macro social level. There is no other solution. If you have a break of the monopoly's control and monopoly's property, if you have a social property of the means of communication, then there is no problem. Then you will have a guarantee. When there is no problem. That's a big exaggeration. You will have millions of problems, but then at least the danger of a monopoly control by a few people over these means of communication is very unlikely to be repeated. So I would say one of the main slogans for grammatical slogans for socialists after the computer revolution has be a drive for collective property of the means of production and communication. You have always to add these new words, \"and communication\", to the old formula, because it becomes very, very important, very weighty in this present world.\r\n\r\n- I'm interested in the prospects for the children for the children of the next generation. Psychologically when they begin to struggle against machines and video products. On the one hand that would seem to be less alienating because they're not struggling against their friends. On the other hand, I think perhaps they would have fewer friends because they're spending more time-\r\n\r\n- Obviously. I agree with you. I agree with you. I think in the field of inter-human communications, the spread of the video games and all the talking machines is a big potential disaster. Potential. It's not preordained. Still it's within the hands of human beings to correct that. But if you leave the trend going on the pedagogical and psychological consequences, absolutely terrible. I mean, I have in one of my books taken a more primitive example but I think it's very, very typical in the history of pedagogy for small children, especially girls. But this is not at all set in a sexist way. On the contrary, one of the advantages has been one of the advantages to talk with those has been one of the elementary means of developing language and thought in a creative individual non-manipulated way. No, you'll have the talking doll. With a talking doll, you can't develop a dialogue. It's again, the same thing. It's a machine. It's like a machine. So the self-development of the individual is cutoff. Not totally, we shouldn't exaggerate. It's not hell on earth, but the potential is there for a big regression in individuality in the development of personality of each human being and in the possibility of manipulating and restraining constraining that to the larger influence of the machine. I'm not a Luddite. I would not propose to break up or kill, destroy the machines and the computers. I see the liberating potential death too. That would be one of my disputes with my good friends of green denomination, of green persuasion, say any Luddite tendency towards the computer as it is today would be a very skeptical, pessimistic, nearly despairing attitude of mine saying you can't help it anymore. It's lost. The best, what you can do is withdraw from it, destroy it, and hope for some decades of survival. I think this is pretty pessimistic. I still think the use of all these machines can be significantly changed if you change the social structure that it is still within mankind's hand to use the potential of this communication revolution in a creative progressive and humanistic way. But the risk is there. I mean, I completely agree with you and it's probably more there on the field of education and psychology than on any other field where the restrictions of free development of the individual of the personality now become very, very grave as a result of the machines occupying such a big place in the life of the child. On the other hand I am always surprised... To end on an optimistic note, I'm an old timer as you see, and well I look at children of five years. For them, these computers are no mystery at all. They play with them as we played with the ABC. And this of course means that they have also a more less dominated attitude or less fearful attitudes towards these machines for them. They take it for granted. Like we take the automobile for granted. Well, a hundred years ago, the automobile was not taken for granted, was also seen as a tremendous danger. I mean, some people thought it would blow up and put fire to all the towns. It was a danger in a certain sense, but it didn't blow up all the towns. So perhaps the children will be more active and reactive than what we think they will be. And they will be able to retake control because they have no fear, no inhibition towards these machines. It's possible. Don't want to end on a very negative or pessimistic tone, but just to show you the danger, that's all.\r\n\r\n- It's time we talked about... Hopefully the intellectual taking over isn't taking over the movement. Well, let's say the intellectuals do take over or say which information we should perceive the world in. Like you said, too much information. Most intellectuals would say, \"Oh, I could.\" I'm a bible-believing Christian, all right? I feel that I could defend because you speak in pluralism, yet humanists, the best of them talks about Christianity when you're saying they're incompetent. I feel that has threatened my belief. I know what I know, I know what I believe in, and so I feel like that type of pluralism when you have a group of humanists saying which information the world receives or does not.\r\n\r\n- I agree with you. Oh, no, I entirely agree with you. Or I expressed myself badly, or you misunderstood me. I never said that human intellectual should control the... Nobody should control. I say people should have free access. There is only a technical question of how would you call it organizing. Not forbidding the organizing. You have to be able to ask the questions. Otherwise you will not get the information, or you will get to... The formulation of the questions must be done in such a way that everybody can get responses or access to the information which he wants. That's just the technical organizational problem. That's not a problem of selection. Please, I'm against that. I'm for absolute free access. I don't believe at all in the capacity of intellectuals to govern the world. I'm not a follower of Plato. I'm much more dangerous person. I believe that all the people should govern the world without any distinction of intellectual qualities. And I believe that it is more productive and more creative to have a million people be wrong but by their own volition than to have 50 people be right against the million by imposing their will on them. And I'm a real convinced pluralistic Democrat. That's what all Marxists and real socialists are because they believe deeply, deeply in that famous sentence that the emancipation of the working class can only be the work of the working class itself, not the work of any elite, of any minority, of any preordained group of people. This is much more threatening to many people, when you say that because then they turn the other way around and then they say, \"What? You want to give the power to these ignorant people who don't know even the difference between good and evil? You want to have them take the real decisions?\" Yes, yes. I am a convinced Democrat. I want to, to have decision taken by these ignorant people who don't know the difference between... That's democracy, that's democracy, that the mass of the people take the decision, not small elites who believe of themselves that they have some privilege, either privileged knowledge or privilege moral or privileged access to God or to whatever it is, which gives them the right to decide and to step into place of other people. They have no rights with that. The only right is to defend their own creed. That right they have, but not impose it on other people. To leave the decision to the mass of the people, that's what socialism is all about. Not only on the field of politics, but on every field. On the field of economics and social organization, not private faith, private conviction, of course. That has nothing to do with the mass, but the faith of society of the big basic great social questions, yes. That has to be decided as politics is decided today, by universal franchise, by majority decisions, and not by any institution which is imposed on the mass of the people. If somebody tells you that the economic loss, some objective economic loss make unemployment unavoidable, and if the majority of the people say, \"We don't give a damn about economic loss, we don't want unemployment,\" well, they have the absolute right to take that decision. To overrule any scientific, pseudo-scientific law which imposes unemployment on them and say, \"We don't want it, and we decide not to take it.\" Full stop. That's democracy as I understand it.\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, that mass of people that you talk about includes the poor people or the people that have no education or-\r\n\r\n- Obviously.\r\n\r\n- How can they decide how they take the information and say, \"We want this, we want the other thing.\"\r\n\r\n- Why can't they? Because the thing which you have to understand is that these decisions are not technical. I'd give you a very concrete example. I wouldn't put any ignorant person in control of a nuclear power station because he would blow up the power station and he could blow up the town. That would be extremely dangerous. But the fact that you need a technician to control the power station does not give that technician the right to decide that you built such a dangerous power station in that town. That decision should be in the hands of the ignorant people, as you say, because their faith is involved in that. If they don't want to run the risk of being blown up that's their perfect right not to run that risk. So that's the difference, you see? Purely technical decisions which are, of course, linked to knowledge. The other are social and political decisions. I don't believe any elite has the right to decide on this second category in the place of the majority of the people. I would add that out of personal experience and out of the social analysis, that the degree of ignorance of the big majority of the people is greatly exaggerated. There has been some educational progress after all in the last 150 years. Not today, living at least in the West and some of the more underdeveloped countries, we are not living in a world of an alphabets of a world of people who have no access whatsoever to knowledge. That time is a long, long time over happily. People have more possibilities of getting information than they had before. And they use it off and on. Not always, but they use it off and on and I have some confidence in the common sense. It's not the question of utopian vision on a perfect working class. I have no such utopian vision. I just start from a very matter-of-fact, let us say, projection. When a chairman of the board of a big monopoly makes a wrong decision which makes that corporation bankrupt after five years, it's very unlikely as things are today that he will starve. He will still lead a very good life. Then Comrade Stalin made the wrong decision on the cultural policy in the Soviet Union. Soviet people have too little meat for 25 years. I don't think Comrade Stalin had too little meat for 25 years. When the mass of the people take wrong decisions, well, they will suffer the consequences of these wrong decisions in their own stomach immediately. This is a very big incentive of correcting decision, not of not making mistakes. Nobody is out of the category of people who make mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes and large groups of people will probably make large mistakes but they will have a tremendous incentive to correct them rapidly because they suffer the consequences of the mistakes themselves that as the present rulers of the world don't. That's a very big difference. That's one of the basis of, let us say, moderate optimism in favor of democratic socialism. Moderate optimism, but it has more logic that it can work than any of the existing systems.\r\n\r\n- Just a couple more questions and then we'll close.\r\n\r\n- This is a rather involved question. Since World War 2, the United States has experienced what we call a sexual revolution, sexual liberation, and this has often involved the abandonment of sexual ethics or sexual guidelines, and some good has come out of slaying Victorianism, but at the same time abandoning all these ethics has also made very empty relationships with many people. Now, it is said that this has just happened, that since World War 2 we've changed, but I'm of the opinion that every change occurs for a reason. I wouldn't be surprised as if we didn't abandon ethics because they weren't profitable. Ethics and quote unquote morals don't make money. They're not profitable. With that in mind of how much change the motivation for avarice can facilitate, do you think there's any way to stop the mindless assassination of human creativity and development short of abolishing capitalism?\r\n\r\n- Well that's the whole point. I would not think that. I think that if you do not abolish capitalism you will not get this rat race for getting rich out of human motivation. And I would even go farther than abolishing capitalism because we have to draw some lessons of hybrid economic systems as those which exist in Eastern Europe and in the Soviet Union and in China. I would say you have to abolish commodity production. Private competition for private enrichment has to go out of the window. This becomes a life and death question today for mankind because the gravest and most extreme form of competition is competition around nuclear weapons, and they will just blow up the earth. So you'll have to change that basic motivation if you want to save mankind. There is no way out. It's not an easy thing, it's easier said than done. I know socialism is a very big, very difficult purpose, endeavor, but I don't see any other change and I think you hit the nail right on the head. I mean, it's much small, this basic correlation between what motivates human beings in bourgeois society, in commodity producing society and the results of it in the widest fields of social activity which is at the root of the evil than all kinds of tangential phenomena like drug and crime and God knows. There are so many of these connections which have been empirically proved. I have no disagreement with the empirical proof but they are just side aspects, just minor reflections of a much broader phenomenon. That broader phenomenon is the one you indicate. And that's also the most difficult to suppress as the Russians found out, as the Chinese found out. It's much easier to suppress private property of the large means of production. That's not such a big difficulty. But to suppress commodity production, money, purpose of money, motive in society. In general, that's much harder. That needs for much deeper evolution, also much longer. But it is a social evolution. It's the organization of the economy society. And if you want the state or the state which is withering away, it's the problem of self-administration and self-management and enabling human initiative. Free decision by human beings, by the mass of human beings to come into their own in every field of social activity, which is the real problem. Once that happens, you can have very big miracles, very big miracles. Mankind is capable of the worst and the best. The worst we have seen, the best we haven't seen yet, but it will come because both are amongst the possibilities.\r\n\r\n- One more good one if we have time. If not... Okay, well let's thank Dr.-\r\n\r\n- I also wish to thank everyone here for coming and remind you again to continue enjoying our Institute the rest of the week. 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