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introduce Rolf Craft this evening. I want to thank you for coming because we have spent some time and effort to try to encourage people to come to this. And as we spent our $50 for advertising in order to try to generate an audience, I looked at what the competition was for my ad. And I noticed there were 70 ads of the same size that we were putting in, and 40 of them were pleading with students to allocate their time in the direction of whatever it was the ad was offering in the way of activity. And I know, of course, that it is a competitive world out there but I had a firm indication of how many things there are to do. I'd like to introduce Rolf Craft this evening, a former student, a farmer, a professor at Luther College, an economist, and a state senator. I think that we are fortunate to have this former student of Don Calder's come back and talk to us about a subject that he really dealt with in his PhD thesis. And I don't know, but I seriously believe that he had no idea that he would be considering as from the position he is now as a state senator the question of how to rationalize or move towards a more logical mix and level of expenditure what we spend in Iowa on public education. I think when he and Don Calder were thinking about how to look at the variation in the cost of teaching students in various curriculum and thinking about how much one of them might add to lifetime earnings relative to another, he had no idea that this would be as prophetic of his activity as Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and the tasks they're faced. Rolf was a student here who graduate in 1959 in agriculture business, and he went farming for two years, and in fact is still a farmer, seven miles north of Decorah. He got his PhD here in 1968 and became a professor at Luther College the year before. He has finished his first term as a senator from five counties in northeast Iowa and is being elected in November. He's unopposed for a second term. I think that the opposition decided it was pointless to put anyone up because they didn't have a chance anyway. His talk tonight is about human resources and the rationalizing of Iowa's investments in human resources. This is the Second Annual Don Calder Memorial and we feel fortunate to be able to present on behalf of his friends this lecture on Rationalizing Iowa's Investment in Human Capital. The students from the Economics Department helped to arrange this meeting and the government of the student body has also helped to sponsor it. So without any more ado, I'd like to give you Rolf Craft.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Arland. It's an extreme pleasure to be here tonight and be invited back. Nothing, it appears, really gives you as much enjoyment as being invited back home to present an opinion, and I do consider this sort of an invitation back home. In addition to the pleasure it gives though, it also puts quite a bit of pressure on you to be sitting here in front of your former professors with the shoe on the other foot. And so I hope the role reversal will be somewhat acceptable tonight. Now I like to use the word returning home because it was here at Iowa State that I suppose that my economic knowledge was conceived and gestated, and most, of course, of its early growth, also. I spent eight years in Ames and at Iowa State University and I think when you put in eight years of classes, conversation, and coffee breaks, all of which form an awful lot of your basis in economics, you can't help but deny that this is where at least my intellectual background was put together. I can look back on those days. Wallace Ogg was my first economics professor here and he introduced me to the whole area in a most delightful and what I consider very liberal way. Also, I have to mention that Ray Benicky and J.T. Scot were respectively my proxy father and big brother during those first years down here, and I certainly appreciate that. And Bill Murray, I was telling him tonight, also had quite an input into my life, not really in the classroom, some of the things that we did together running around outside the classroom, and I certainly appreciate that very much. And then of course in graduate school it was Donald Calder who alternately prodded, restrained, cheered, and chewed out with whatever kind of particular procedure and advice was needed at any given time. And it was also in his classes that the personal practicality of economics, which I think was my first impression of economics, was blended with the theory to show the avenues available for public policy. And it was also from Professor Calder that the impulsive, very disconnected graduate student I'm afraid, learned the value of marginalism in private life. A bit more discipline here. I think we can find a slightly better word to use there. I think maybe we ought to rewrite this section changing just a little bit. And I think there's maybe a better way you can go at getting this particular bit of information. I appreciate that very much. Particularly impressed he demanded excellent writing and clear organization in addition to a Durbin-Watson statistic and a correlation of coefficient and some of those other items that were running around here all the time. Also, and I think I was talking to Arland about this the other night, Donald Calder was also a politician. He dealt with the possible and recognized that marginalism and improving public policy is much more likely to bring about some achievable result than some grand revolutionary reconstruction. He also understood people and personalities. And I recall he represented the economics department in some of the actions that took place on the campus here, and did it very well. He also introduced me, well in my particular research project we had to get a lot of, well I assume the information we got would hardly be available today. Very confidential kinds of information regarding scores, grades, test scores, and so on. And one of the things I appreciated, he understood different personalities, different people, and he would give me advice when I had to get all this cooperation from different people around the college. And he would tell me how to approach this person, which is very different from how to approach this person. And I certainly can still remember that and how effective he was in understanding the ways that one goes about accomplishing what is possible. I don't believe he was particularly impressed or delighted when I took my job at Luther College, but he did congratulate me on my continued association with Norwegians. It's also probably important to stress before we get into the rest of the speech that because of my employment choice at Luther College, I probably should not be considered a professional economist but a teacher. There is quite a distinctive difference between the role of the faculty there and here at Iowa State. Not totally, but the degree is certainly different. And I do have a set of biases which are rather overlapping, but I still think, I believe, as an economist. I probably feel emotionally as a teacher and a farmer. And I probably make my decisions based on subjective factors as a politician does. Now with that in mind, and the recognition, of course, I am coming from a private college, we should probably start out looking at the basic background and the starting point of educational history in the United States. Education has not always been part of the public sector. But early in the history of this country the efforts were made first in primary and secondary education and in certain areas of higher education, and then later to broaden the possibilities in higher education, to provide access to education for all citizens. Now access to education was recognized as a ladder to a social and economic advancement by the immigrants and by many of their descendants. It was also recognized as a means of reducing the cultural differences of immigrants from different areas. Now this was viewed very positively by some people, but certainly not by all of the people who were subjected to the melting pot effort or the leveling effort. And again, a little background might be of interest here. The college where I teach at now was started in 1861. It was started to preserve the Norwegian culture and keep it from being assimilated into the mainstream activities of the country. Norwegian was the language of classroom instruction until 1924. There was a Norwegian language requirement until 1934. And it was only in 1952 that a Norwegian cultural requirement was finally dropped from the graduation requirements. Quite an impressive response to the requirement of uniform public education in the country. Now I mention this as a background that we now have some recent objections to the leveling effect of public schools. And I want to stress this is not of recent origin but is firmly based in a lot of the history and has, in fact, quite a bit of historical precedent. Now early it was evidently recognized that educational externalities existed for efficient government. This blending of cultures and languages into a common base does have a lot of advantages. There are advantages, certainly, to having a similar language, having a basic background of culture and knowledge to draw from. It is going to simplify the governmental process. Consequently, the public support of education was basically justified on three premises. I'd like to point out that an inherent conflict exists between these premises. First of all, you have the externalities of citizenship; you had the promotion of egalitarian principles; and then you had very much the merit aspect that education is good for you. Now I want to point out that there is a conflict there that we stressed egalitarian principles, giving everyone an opportunity, but at the same time there certainly had to be an impact here on these other two sources saying that someone else can basically decide what is the best kind of of background and proposal for a particular educational program. Now whether there's actual documentation of this rationale and its potential conflicts, I'm not sure. But we have had some more recent results, Hanson and his work done in California for example, questioned and I think pointed out that the very highly subsidized aspect of the California school system actually promoted inequality, at least in the income area, than one would have thought given the premise of open access. I think most economists are well aware that the biggest problem here is still the opportunity costs present the biggest cost of any educational input and that really very poor people are very reluctant perhaps to give up and invest those opportunity costs. However, and I think the best basis we have now, is the work of Schultz, Becker, and Dennison who developed the theories and empirical evidence demonstrating the impact of education as the engine of economic growth and increased productivity. Now I think it's, from my standpoint, it's amazing now that all the growth models that I use in my macro class incorporate educational investment as basically, and some not only the major, but the source of increased per capita incomes. In fact, if public expenditure for education would come under fire today, and it certainly has in some areas, it is probably the economist who holds the brightest light of endorsement for educational expenditures. I think particularly in a society that puts more and more emphasis on empirical data, I think economists can be very proud of the fact that they're the ones who have basically presented data that shows education does have social and private benefits. The other, obviously some of these other benefits which I'm sure education has, are much more difficult to get empirical and quantitative data on. Now I concur with most people that learning is a principle and basic resource of society. I think if you had to put it somewhere, that's the place you put it. All of our social organizations have their roots in education and the derivatives such as industry and production, art, justice. All aspects of society basically all where they are today to the educational investment that has taken place in the past. Economic growth and increases in wealth by which we define it include far more than the creation of material things. It includes a satisfaction we derive from our lives and our society. Our lives and our wealth will be increased if we can solve any of the problems around us today. Reduction in wars, poverty, decreased racial tensions, if these can be reduced, we have enhanced, I think, the wealth of our society as surely as if we were engaged in material production. And I think that educational investment is crucial to contribute to the solving of these particular problems. Now I think that we're very fortunate in education that the public awareness of wealth other than material wealth seems to be increasing. This is the resulting output mix that we're seeing produced I think recognizes that. Maybe in something as trivial as the move that this service sector comes to dominating. Many of the arguments that we've all experienced in the past regarding production versus pollution and such things are probably not really calling production into question in a non-growing society as much they're calling attention to the kind of output mix that a particular society should be producing. And I think this is very favorable that this is being recognized by the people. And the choices that we appear to be making certainly reflect much of the input by consumers as to saying they recognize that our wealth can be enhanced in many avenues rather than the ones we have traditionally considered. Well with that background, and facing directly up to the question of how do we evaluate the resources of Iowa's commitment to education, how do we rationalize the very large amounts of money that we invest in this area both public and private, I rather broke down what some people call the educational industry into basically three industries. And the first one I broke it down into is basically primary and secondary schools. Not higher education, not the tech schools. And I think most of us have been familiar with this industry. And I decided that we studied it in Principles of Economics and the actions of the industry and the results of the industry are what we would predict from the textbook example of a monopolistic industry. The form of subsidies in education we use now in Iowa, one is, first of all, one is compelled to invest to a certain degree in education. Sometimes quite a distance from the early times when I think people viewed education as being an opportunity, we now very minor admittedly, but very persistent, we have people who are opposing the compulsion that society has said you must go to a school of a particular type for a certain period of your life. Now there are private schools in this area, but for many people, they simply do not present a very viable alternative. Well, what are some of the other aspects that we would expect given this kind of structure? We have, like I say, not only do we have basically a supply monopoly, but we have the compulsion to purchase the product. I'm afraid we also have almost a single product. The individual schools that are out there, while they're local monopolies, are tied together by a very stringent set of requirements as to what courses should be taught, what kinds of material inputs you have to have, required courses. In other words, we force the same production process. We demand the same output in all of these isolated schools across the state. We have a well-organized labor force working in these areas who can work together very well with management in protecting their particular domain. We have a seller's market out there. There are not too many choices available. And we have, I think, some of the predictable results. We have a very low level of innovation in this particular sector. It's, I think, embarrassing when some of the strategic breakthroughs in innovation are such things as simply sharing an administrator or sharing a teacher. The product is relatively homogenous. There are schools which, within the state, which have reputations for a different kind of a product. I sometimes think that product simply represents a little more chrome than the product which comes out in another area. And I suppose the most pessimistic I can say is that as someone who's been teaching the outputs of these schools, I do believe subjectively that the quality of that product is decreasing over time. So it's not a very good picture. And I think it raises the question, the question of why, what should be required. What are the goals of these schools? If the goal is to require everyone to have a certain uniform background, then I think you have to admit the public school system is doing a good job. If your goal is to take people of differing abilities, different talents, different backgrounds, develop the unique talents some of these people might have, recognize some of the unique problems that other students have, then I think that the current system of public education at this level is not doing a very acceptable job. And I think we have to truly evaluate what do we want those schools to do out there. In higher education we have a different kind of structure. First of all, it's voluntary. It requires more input, both financially and otherwise, than does the preceding sector. And we have basically an industry which our textbook would probably call an industry of monopolistic competitors out there. We were talking earlier this evening. The textbook examples of monopolistic competition I believe says lots of advertising. When I graduated from college 25 years ago, one college contacted me. My son will graduate from high school next year. I assume over 100 colleges will not only contact him, we have at Luther College sales people on the road drumming the bushes. We invest heavily in packaging, marketing, and selling this whole particular product. We recognize the competitive nature and the college, and I think all universities, here I think in higher education Iowa State's no different, there have been definite changes in the way one approaches potential students in the last few years. The outputs of the higher education system appear to change much more readily to meet market forces. I gathered some data at, again, at Luther. The proportion of graduates in business and biology have more than doubled in the last 10 years. The output of Greek and Latin majors is relatively nonexistent now. We have programs in nursing, social work, areas that simply did not exist 10 years before. But a typical, perhaps not efficient. For particularly we had a big debate over nursing is a relatively technical area for a private liberal arts college to get into. And I'll say a little more about this later, but this is traditionally the kind of area we have not gotten into. But basically it represents a response to a very competitive market situation. We recognize that. I have done research work, some of the most interesting research work I did, was using my background as an economist developing recruitment techniques. I really, I just borrowed it. I took a marketing book off the shelf and used some of my statistical background and we analyzed where the college drew students from and I simply whipped off a few regression equations. And using that said, \"Des Moines is a market we're not tapping. \"La Crosse is a market. \"Stay out of Sioux City.\" And it's amazing the kind of resources which are going into this area now. We work very hard at it. We also work very hard, I put together a demand curve for Luther College services. Terribly elastic. I didn't like to see that. But we said, \"What can we do about it?\" Now here's a place the college did take some of my advice in recruitment and where to spend their money and where to try and drum up more students. Rather interesting. Of course we work in Norwegian Lutheran areas and then our next best areas are Catholic. We break this all down. It's rather amazing how one can work this out. Another area, we're worried about retention. You know, once we get someone buying our product, do we want them to switch to another product? No. We invest heavily then at retention. Now this brings up another area which by following the paper and sitting on some committee meetings is certainly not unique to the private colleges either. More and more we who sit here in economics, we talk about this investment good in education. We've got to recognize, and I think the colleges already have, that this is also a consumption good in the short run and as a long-lasting consumer durable. If you look at a fee schedule, how much of that fee schedule now are concert fees, athletic stadium fees, student services? Again, using the examples I'm most familiar with, by far and away the most rapidly growing component of our budgets are student services. We put considerable more resources into job placement, housing, counseling, even medical services than we did several years ago. And I think this draws attention to the fact that higher education, and I don't think that's much different here at the state universities, those are the faster growing areas. We are selling a consumption good, also. And I concur. And that's not bad. It's no different than investing in parks and recreation. But I think we should recognize that, and I think take it into account when we look at the pricing structure that we are selling not only investment good, which presumably, and once I concur does have externalities which justify public subsidy, but a large component of what those resources are buying is a very positive consumer good for the people who are purchasing it. We've also had some, we've had a situation in higher education where the supply of facilities has increased faster than demand. Now Iowa's very fortunate here. We still have this to some degree here but no where, we don't have the situation that Minnesota, Wisconsin, some of our surrounding states have, who invested in the last 20 years in entirely new university systems. Buildings which once in place required getting the students there to keep them going. But what has been the result of this? It's been lower costs. And the data shows that after increasing quite dramatically during the '60s, the real cost of higher education has consistently been decreasing since 1970. Now that's good for the consumers. For those of you in the audience who are the producers of this good, that's not so good because your take home pay has not kept pace versus other sectors. It's rather interesting to note if you run this with the high school and the secondary and primary sectors, the real cost of that education has not decreased in the last decade. Now one may view this as a market of expansion and contraction in two separate areas and a reduction of scale, perhaps, in economies associated therein, but I think we should recognize the fact that we have provided higher education for an increasing number of students at a decreasing real cost now for over a decade. Whereas our real cost of secondary and primary education have still been increasing. Certainly not to the degree they did earlier, but they are relatively flat rather than decreasing hereon. Now, it's rather interesting to talk this way about higher education. I frankly, as a value judgment, think it's very good that we have this kind of competition. 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tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45498/file/247235#t=47.546,48.899"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45498/file/247235/transcript/68759/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is the goal of the educational system, particularly now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45498/file/247235#t=48.899,52.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45498/file/247235/transcript/68759/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at higher education to provide this kind of 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